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This book was supposed to be translated in English and released in North America and Europe by [[Dark Horse Comics]] on June 15, 2017,<ref>Brian (February 18, 2017). [http://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-bros-encyclopedia-coming-to-north-america-and-europe-in-june/ Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia coming to North America and Europe in June]. ''Nintendo Everything''. Retrieved August 29, 2017.</ref> although preorders for the English translation were canceled in May 2017,<ref>Brian (May 6, 2017). [http://nintendoeverything.com/amazon-uk-cancelling-super-mario-bros-encyclopedia-pre-orders/ Amazon UK cancelling Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia pre-orders]. ''Nintendo Everything''. Retrieved July 2, 2017.</ref> and the release date had been moved to October 23, 2018.<ref>[https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/2658/eccc-2018-dark-horse-powers-publishing-line-super ECCC 2018: Dark Horse Powers Up Publishing Line with "Super Mario Encyclopedia"]. ''Dark Horse''. Retrieved February 20, 2018.</ref> However, the date was later modified again, this time on October 16.<ref>[https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/30-956/Super-Mario-Encyclopedia-The-Official-Guide-to-the-First-30-Years-HC SUPER MARIO ENCYCLOPEDIA: THE OFFICIAL GUIDE TO THE FIRST 30 YEARS HC]. ''Dark Horse''. Retrieved May 2, 2018.</ref> The book's German translation was released on October 12, 2017, by {{wp|Tokyopop}};<ref>[https://www.tokyopop.de/manga/tokyopop-manga/shonen/super-mario-encyclopedia/2015/super-mario-encyclopedia-die-ersten-30-jahre Page of the ''Super Mario Encyclopedia – Die ersten 30 Jahre'' on Tokyopop's online shop].</ref> its Spanish translation was released on October 17 by {{wp|Planeta DeAgostini}};<ref>[https://www.planetadelibros.com/libro-enciclopedia-super-mario-bros-30-aniversario/245718 Page of the ''Enciclopedia Super Mario Bros 30ª Aniversario'' on PlanetadeLibros' site].</ref> its French translation was published on July 4, 2018, by {{wp|Soleil Productions}} in the Soleil Manga collection;<ref>[https://www.soleilprod.com/manga/news/annonce-super-mario-encyclopedia.html Official announcement of the release on Soleil Manga website].</ref><ref>https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/2302070046</ref> and its Italian translation was published on November 15, 2018, by Magazzini Salani.<ref>[https://www.amazon.it/Super-Mario-Bros-Enciclopedia-colori/dp/889367436X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542660346&sr=8-2&keywords=super+mario+bros+enciclopedia]</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/salanieditore/status/1062754684539158528 Twitter post about the release of the Italian translation of the ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' from the official account of Salani].</ref> | This book was supposed to be translated in English and released in North America and Europe by [[Dark Horse Comics]] on June 15, 2017,<ref>Brian (February 18, 2017). [http://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-bros-encyclopedia-coming-to-north-america-and-europe-in-june/ Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia coming to North America and Europe in June]. ''Nintendo Everything''. Retrieved August 29, 2017.</ref> although preorders for the English translation were canceled in May 2017,<ref>Brian (May 6, 2017). [http://nintendoeverything.com/amazon-uk-cancelling-super-mario-bros-encyclopedia-pre-orders/ Amazon UK cancelling Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia pre-orders]. ''Nintendo Everything''. Retrieved July 2, 2017.</ref> and the release date had been moved to October 23, 2018.<ref>[https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/2658/eccc-2018-dark-horse-powers-publishing-line-super ECCC 2018: Dark Horse Powers Up Publishing Line with "Super Mario Encyclopedia"]. ''Dark Horse''. Retrieved February 20, 2018.</ref> However, the date was later modified again, this time on October 16.<ref>[https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/30-956/Super-Mario-Encyclopedia-The-Official-Guide-to-the-First-30-Years-HC SUPER MARIO ENCYCLOPEDIA: THE OFFICIAL GUIDE TO THE FIRST 30 YEARS HC]. ''Dark Horse''. Retrieved May 2, 2018.</ref> The book's German translation was released on October 12, 2017, by {{wp|Tokyopop}};<ref>[https://www.tokyopop.de/manga/tokyopop-manga/shonen/super-mario-encyclopedia/2015/super-mario-encyclopedia-die-ersten-30-jahre Page of the ''Super Mario Encyclopedia – Die ersten 30 Jahre'' on Tokyopop's online shop].</ref> its Spanish translation was released on October 17 by {{wp|Planeta DeAgostini}};<ref>[https://www.planetadelibros.com/libro-enciclopedia-super-mario-bros-30-aniversario/245718 Page of the ''Enciclopedia Super Mario Bros 30ª Aniversario'' on PlanetadeLibros' site].</ref> its French translation was published on July 4, 2018, by {{wp|Soleil Productions}} in the Soleil Manga collection;<ref>[https://www.soleilprod.com/manga/news/annonce-super-mario-encyclopedia.html Official announcement of the release on Soleil Manga website].</ref><ref>https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/2302070046</ref> and its Italian translation was published on November 15, 2018, by Magazzini Salani.<ref>[https://www.amazon.it/Super-Mario-Bros-Enciclopedia-colori/dp/889367436X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542660346&sr=8-2&keywords=super+mario+bros+enciclopedia]</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/salanieditore/status/1062754684539158528 Twitter post about the release of the Italian translation of the ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' from the official account of Salani].</ref> | ||
==Plagiarism== | ==Plagiarism== | ||
Following the release of the encyclopedia in English, it was found that one of the translators had taken conjectural and foreign names for characters from fan websites such as the Super Mario Wiki and Fandom's MarioWiki. This especially concerns enemies and characters from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'', as well as others such as [[Winged Strollin' Stu]] (dubbed by the book by its former conjectural name used on the Super Mario Wiki, "Soarin' Stu") and [[Comet Tico|Lumacomète]], which is actually the character's French name, used by the Super Mario Wiki at one point due to a lack of an English name.<ref>[https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/10/it_looks_like_the_official_super_mario_encyclopedia_plagiarised_a_fan-made_wiki It Looks Like The Official Super Mario Encyclopedia Plagiarised A Fan-Made Wiki]. ''Nintendo Life''. Retrieved October 25, 2018.</ref> | Following the release of the encyclopedia in English, it was found that one of the translators had taken conjectural and foreign names for characters from fan websites such as the Super Mario Wiki and Fandom's MarioWiki. This especially concerns enemies and characters from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'', as well as others such as [[Winged Strollin' Stu]] (dubbed by the book by its former conjectural name used on the Super Mario Wiki, "Soarin' Stu") and [[Comet Tico|Lumacomète]], which is actually the character's French name, used by the Super Mario Wiki at one point due to a lack of an English name.<ref>[https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/10/it_looks_like_the_official_super_mario_encyclopedia_plagiarised_a_fan-made_wiki It Looks Like The Official Super Mario Encyclopedia Plagiarised A Fan-Made Wiki]. ''Nintendo Life''. Retrieved October 25, 2018.</ref> | ||
==List of English translation errors and typos not from the Super Mario Wiki== | ==List of English translation errors and typos not from the Super Mario Wiki== | ||
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|In the ''Super Mario 64'' section, the Wiggler is treated as the generic enemy rather than an individual, using plural tense and stating that Wigglers are angry when Mario [[stomp]]s them. In actuality, the Wiggler is a boss found on [[Tiny-Huge Island]] | |In the ''Super Mario 64'' section, the Wiggler is treated as the generic enemy rather than an individual, using plural tense and stating that Wigglers are angry when Mario [[stomp]]s them. In actuality, the Wiggler is a boss found on [[Tiny-Huge Island]]. | ||
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|[[Lava Bubble|Sparkies]] do not appear in the ''Super Mario 64'' section of the book. | |[[Lava Bubble|Sparkies]] do not appear in the ''Super Mario 64'' section of the book. | ||
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|On | |On page 101, the Buckies are referred to as "The Packees," which is a misreading of the Japanese ''handakuten'' as ''dakuten''. In addition, the characters are individually named with the direct romanizations of "Mai-Mai," "Miru-Miru," and "Maki-Maki," instead of the game's localizations of Ducky, Plucky, and Lucky. | ||
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|On page 119, "[[Red Ring]]" is not capitalized. | |On page 119, "[[Red Ring]]" is not capitalized. | ||
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|On page 128, [[ | |On page 128, [[Pulse Beam]]s are called Ring Beams. | ||
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|[[Stone wheel]]s do not appear in the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' section of the book. | |[[Stone wheel]]s do not appear in the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' section of the book. | ||
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|On page 224, the screenshot for the [[Coin Box|? Box]] actually depicts a [[Propeller Box]] | |On page 224, the screenshot for the [[Coin Box|? Box]] actually depicts a [[Propeller Box]]. | ||
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*Page 55: A [[tornado]] is known as a "[[Tweester]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' section, which was conflated by the wiki from 2006 to 2017. The same oddity exists in [[Prima Games]]' ''Playing with Power: Nintendo NES Classics''. | *Page 55: A [[tornado]] is known as a "[[Tweester]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' section, which was conflated by the wiki from 2006 to 2017. The same oddity exists in [[Prima Games]]' ''Playing with Power: Nintendo NES Classics''. | ||
*Page 63: A [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]] is known as a "Fire Jumpin' Piranha," which is based on the wiki's conjectural "Fire Jumping Piranha" title from 2015 to 2018. | *Page 63: A [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]] is known as a "Fire Jumpin' Piranha," which is based on the wiki's conjectural "Fire Jumping Piranha" title from 2015 to 2018. | ||
*Pages 75 and 76: With the exception of "[[Fireball Boy]]," nearly every enemy name from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'' is directly lifted from the wiki titles, with macrons removed from romanizations where applicable. This includes "[[Bee Fly|Be]]" and "[[Bomubomu]]," which went under the names B Fly and Bomubomu 1 2 3, respectively, in the Japanese version. This is similar to what was done to enemies that had not had their names localized (or had not had their localized names discovered) from ''[[zeldawiki:Zelda II: The Adventure of Link|Zelda II: The Adventure of Link]]'' in Dark Horse's book ''The Legend of Zelda: Arts & Artifacts''. Additionally, "[[Ant]]" was a general term and "[[ | *Pages 75 and 76: With the exception of "[[Fireball Boy]]," nearly every enemy name from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'' is directly lifted from the wiki titles, with macrons removed from romanizations where applicable. This includes "[[Bee Fly|Be]]" and "[[Bomubomu]]," which went under the names B Fly and Bomubomu 1 2 3, respectively, in the Japanese version. This is similar to what was done to enemies that had not had their names localized (or had not had their localized names discovered) from ''[[zeldawiki:Zelda II: The Adventure of Link|Zelda II: The Adventure of Link]]'' in Dark Horse's book ''The Legend of Zelda: Arts & Artifacts''. Additionally, "[[Ant]]" was a general term and "[[Beebee|Bibi]]" had a name in ''[[Nintendo Power]]'', leading both articles to be retitled in 2019. Most of these names would later appear on the English Mario Portal website. | ||
*Page 78: A [[Moneybag (item)|Moneybag]] is known as a "Money Bag," which was an unsourced title from 2007 to 2017. | *Page 78: A [[Moneybag (item)|Moneybag]] is known as a "Money Bag," which was an unsourced title from 2007 to 2017. | ||
*Page 85: In the ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' section, the "[[Boss Bass]]" entry states that it is also known as "[[Bubba]]" in the description, which is not mentioned in the Japanese version. With current information, [[Cheep Chomp]] is considered to have had the alternate name Bubba, with Boss Bass being the name of a previous, similar iteration of [[Big Cheep Cheep]], although Cheep Chomp is referred to as Boss Bass in ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. | *Page 85: In the ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' section, the "[[Boss Bass]]" entry states that it is also known as "[[Bubba]]" in the description, which is not mentioned in the Japanese version. With current information, [[Cheep Chomp]] is considered to have had the alternate name Bubba, with Boss Bass being the name of a previous, similar iteration of [[Big Cheep Cheep]], although Cheep Chomp is referred to as Boss Bass in ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. | ||
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*Page 101: The [[Noki grandson]] is known as the "Noki Elder's Grandson," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | *Page 101: The [[Noki grandson]] is known as the "Noki Elder's Grandson," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | ||
*Page 105: The [[electric goop]] is known as "Electric Graffiti," an [[Orange Juice Generator]] is known as a "Forcefield," and the [[burning goop]] is known as "Lava Graffiti," which were conjectural names in the [[goop|graffiti]] article from roughly 2008 to 2019. | *Page 105: The [[electric goop]] is known as "Electric Graffiti," an [[Orange Juice Generator]] is known as a "Forcefield," and the [[burning goop]] is known as "Lava Graffiti," which were conjectural names in the [[goop|graffiti]] article from roughly 2008 to 2019. | ||
*Page 119: A [[floor (Mario Bros.)|floor]] is known as an "orange platform," which was a conjectural name in the [[World 2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] article from 2008 to 2013 and subsequently the [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] article from 2013 to 2022. | *Page 119: A [[floor (Mario Bros.)|floor]] is known as an "orange platform," which was a conjectural name in the [[World 2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] article from 2008 to 2013 and subsequently the [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] article from 2013 to 2022. | ||
*Page 119: A [[face block (platform)|face block]] is known as a "Platform Block," which was an unsourced title from 2009 to 2019. | *Page 119: A [[face block (platform)|face block]] is known as a "Platform Block," which was an unsourced title from 2009 to 2019. | ||
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*Page 127: A [[Bonefin]] is known as a "[[Fish Bone]]." The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names until a 2018 proposal. | *Page 127: A [[Bonefin]] is known as a "[[Fish Bone]]." The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names until a 2018 proposal. | ||
*Page 128: A [[bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|bat]] is known as a "[[Swoop]]" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section only. The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names (but with basis within internal data) until a 2017 proposal. | *Page 128: A [[bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|bat]] is known as a "[[Swoop]]" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section only. The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names (but with basis within internal data) until a 2017 proposal. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mini Chomp]] is known as a "Chibi Chomp." This is an unofficial localization of its alternate Japanese name (Chibi Wanwan) that was used as the wiki title from 2016 to 2017. | *Pages 127 and 159: A [[Small Chomp|Mini Chomp]] is known as a "Chibi Chomp." This is an unofficial localization of its alternate Japanese name (Chibi Wanwan) that was used as the wiki title from 2016 to 2017. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A Fire Pressure is known as a "[[Fire Shooter]]," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2015. This name would later appear on the English Mario Portal website. | *Pages 127 and 159: A Fire Pressure is known as a "[[Fire Shooter]]," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2015. This name would later appear on the English Mario Portal website. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mikey Mine]] is known as a "[[mine|Floating Mine]]." The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names until a 2023 proposal. | *Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mikey Mine]] is known as a "[[mine|Floating Mine]]." The wiki considered them the same thing despite different appearances and Japanese names until a 2023 proposal. | ||
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*Page 150: An Obake Stand is known as a "[[Ghost Vase]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2017. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | *Page 150: An Obake Stand is known as a "[[Ghost Vase]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2017. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | ||
*Pages 151 and 217: The [[poison fog|ash]] is known as "Volcanic Smoke," which was a conjectural title from 2016 to 2018. | *Pages 151 and 217: The [[poison fog|ash]] is known as "Volcanic Smoke," which was a conjectural title from 2016 to 2018. | ||
*Page 159: The | *Page 159: The fiery version of [[Gobblegut]] fought in the [[Battle Belt Galaxy]] is known as "Fire Gobblegut," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2016. On page 167, it is known as "Fiery Gobblegut," which was a conjectural title from 2016 to 2019. | ||
*Page 160: A [[Golden Gummit]] is known as a "Gold Gummit," which was a conjectural name in the [[Gummit]] article from 2013 to 2019. | *Page 160: A [[Golden Gummit]] is known as a "Gold Gummit," which was a conjectural name in the [[Gummit]] article from 2013 to 2019. | ||
*Page 161: A [[Spinecone]] is known as a "Spiny Hermit," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | *Page 161: A [[Spinecone]] is known as a "Spiny Hermit," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | ||
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ESMB page 27.png|A page covering enemies from ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' | ESMB page 27.png|A page covering enemies from ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' | ||
Mario-2D waving.png|[[Mario]] | Mario-2D waving.png|[[Mario]] | ||
Luigiwaveshade.png|[[Luigi]] | |||
Luigiart4.png|Luigi (Line art version) | |||
Peach 2d shaded2.png|[[Princess Peach]] | Peach 2d shaded2.png|[[Princess Peach]] | ||
Wario2dshaded.png|[[Wario]] | |||
Wario Basic Line Artwork.svg|Wario (Line art version) | |||
Yoshi-tongue.png|[[Yoshi]] | Yoshi-tongue.png|[[Yoshi]] | ||
Bowser artwork02.png|[[Bowser]] | Bowser artwork02.png|[[Bowser]] | ||
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==Names in other languages== | ==Names in other languages== | ||
{{ | {{foreign names | ||
|Jap=スーパーマリオブラザーズ百科: 任天堂公式ガイドブック | |Jap=スーパーマリオブラザーズ百科: 任天堂公式ガイドブック | ||
|JapR=Sūpā Mario Burazāzu Hyakka: Nintendō Kōshiki Gaido Bukku | |JapR=Sūpā Mario Burazāzu Hyakka: Nintendō Kōshiki Gaido Bukku | ||
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|SpaE=Enciclopedia Super Mario Bros. | |SpaE=Enciclopedia Super Mario Bros. | ||
|SpaEM=Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia | |SpaEM=Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia | ||
| | |FreE=Super Mario Encyclopedia : Les 30 premières années | ||
| | |FreEM=Super Mario Encyclopedia: The first 30 years | ||
|Ger=Super Mario Bros.-Enzyklopädie (working title)<ref>[https://www.tokyopop.de/programm-april-bis-juli-2017/super-mario-bros-enzyklopadie-die-ersten-30-jahre Tokyopop April-June 2017 programme]. ''Tokyopop''. Retrieved July 3, 2018.</ref><br>Super Mario Encyclopedia - Die ersten 30 Jahre | |Ger=Super Mario Bros.-Enzyklopädie (working title)<ref>[https://www.tokyopop.de/programm-april-bis-juli-2017/super-mario-bros-enzyklopadie-die-ersten-30-jahre Tokyopop April-June 2017 programme]. ''Tokyopop''. Retrieved July 3, 2018.</ref><br>Super Mario Encyclopedia - Die ersten 30 Jahre | ||
|GerM=Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia<br>Super Mario Encyclopedia: The first 30 years | |GerM=Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia<br>Super Mario Encyclopedia: The first 30 years | ||