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According to the in-game trivia from mario & sonic olympic games tokyo 2020, toad did debut in super mario bros., what's up with that? | According to the in-game trivia from mario & sonic olympic games tokyo 2020, toad did debut in super mario bros., what's up with that?{{User|Linshixi}} | ||
:It might refer to the Toad species, the character however was established in Super Mario Bros. 2. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:14, April 19, 2023 (EDT) | |||
::It's probably because the distinction between the "main" Toad and the "other" Toads is really inconsistent between games and other pieces of media (including whether there even IS a "main" Toad), so it's probably lumping them for convenience (which is what Nintendo usually does). Note how some games treat Kamek as a SMW-debut (or at least use the Magikoopa SMW sprite to represent him) since that's a similar situation. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:20, April 19, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Toad is also appears in Mario + Rabbids series, why that info is not here? == | |||
Toad is appears in Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle as supporting character and make possible cameo in Sparks of Hope. But, why any info about Toad in Mario + Rabbids not there?{{unsigned|TheAwesomeMario}} | |||
:I added a section for Kingdom Battle, however I haven't for Sparks of Hope because that game doesn't feature the Toad character, not even as a "possible cameo". {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:23, August 13, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Should we start splitting Toad's history? == | |||
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I think we should start doing this because this page definitely needs to be divided because of it's size. Mario already has [[History of Mario|this taken care of.]][[User:TheUndescribableGhost|TheUndescribableGhost]] ([[User talk:TheUndescribableGhost|talk]]) 20:54, November 1, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, I think so. It's really long, about as long as Peach's is, and Princess Peach's history has already been moved. I really think we should. -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 16:36, December 7, 2023 (EST) | |||
::Several users who were splitting lots of history sections have been told to stop doing so, the reason being because we are trying to figure out a different guideline from the 100K byte one. For now, this should wait. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 16:54, December 7, 2023 (EST) | |||
:::Oh, alright. I didn't know that. Thank you so much for telling me, because I was going to start on this today. Thanks! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 12:00, December 8, 2023 (EST) | |||
== Strange inclusions == | |||
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I understand I may be poking a bees' nest here, but I find a lot of the games covered in this page to be very strange inclusions. From what I'm noticing, a Toad is covered in this page if, among other, more logical reasons, a Toad in the game is referred to as "Toad" without an indeterminate article. However, it's fairly common for the games to refer to Toads this way. Take Luigi's Mansion 3, for example, where all three Toads are referred to this way. | |||
So, let's go through the games whose inclusions I find strange. I won't get into the whole "Possible Appearances" stuff, but | |||
* Super Mario Bros. 3 - Because name. The section covers the Toad that wishes Mario good luck at the start of the story, the Toad working for the king of Grass Land, and the Toad(s) in every Toad's House. | |||
* Super Mario 64 - Because name, due to the English manual saying that Peach and Toad are missing. However, this is a mistranslation: the Japanese version is explicitly plural (''Kinopio-tachi'', literally "Toads"). And also this is contradicted by another source. | |||
* Luigi's Mansion - Because name. First, there is the 3DS version's manual, more specifically, from what I understand, the part that says you can save the game by talking to Toad. This is true for every Toad in the game, yet the section treats this as referring to only one. Also covers the phone call from a Toad because he introduces himself as "Toad". | |||
* Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - There are five Toads, all of different colors, and the first one happens to be red. That's it. Not only is this Toad working for E. Gadd's rather than Peach, he's not even called just "Toad". E. Gadd calls him "one of my Toad assistants", "my Toad assistant", "that Toad fellow", and "our Toad friend", and the game generically calls him "the Toad" once. | |||
So, thoughts? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 13:30, March 29, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:The line between Toad the character and Toad the copy-pastes is so blurred that I'm in favor of merging the articles. As you've shown, there are instances where a random member of this species is called "Toad". And while you didn't address it, I'd like to add that the "possible appearances" section is awfully speculative and is not a good look for an encyclopedia. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 13:51, March 29, 2024 (EDT) | |||