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:I feel like [https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/09/10/miyamoto-tezuka-interview.aspx this interview with ''Game Informer''] is a bit relevant. According to Miyamoto, the way ''Mario'' characters are used internally is more like that of a theatre troupe than of defined, strict roles one may expect from a long-running series like this. This may be a stretch, but I am inclined to think this is directly reflective to how they approach game design and how they integrate their characters within each game: it is okay if explicit details are contradicting within each installment or are ambiguous because strict continuity is not a priority. Making something fun is. As a consequence, explicit details that may make it unclear if the green dinosaur from ''Yoshi's Story'', ''SMW'', ''SMS'', ''SMG2'', ''SMO'' etc. are all the same individual do not necessarily mean they are not the same individual "character", in my opinion. I hope that makes sense. -- [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 13:45, January 13, 2021 (EST) | :I feel like [https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/09/10/miyamoto-tezuka-interview.aspx this interview with ''Game Informer''] is a bit relevant. According to Miyamoto, the way ''Mario'' characters are used internally is more like that of a theatre troupe than of defined, strict roles one may expect from a long-running series like this. This may be a stretch, but I am inclined to think this is directly reflective to how they approach game design and how they integrate their characters within each game: it is okay if explicit details are contradicting within each installment or are ambiguous because strict continuity is not a priority. Making something fun is. As a consequence, explicit details that may make it unclear if the green dinosaur from ''Yoshi's Story'', ''SMW'', ''SMS'', ''SMG2'', ''SMO'' etc. are all the same individual do not necessarily mean they are not the same individual "character", in my opinion. I hope that makes sense. -- [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 13:45, January 13, 2021 (EST) | ||
::There's another underlying issue. As a Japanese company, Nintendo's Modus Operandi reflects very well how in the Japanese language the same term can refer to an individual, a member of a species or multiple individuals belonging to said species. We had throughout the years plenty of individuals with the name and standard appearance of the species they belong to, and this is definitely the case of Yoshi. Even more confusingly, as with the case of Toad, differently colored members of the species are still referred to as ''Yoshi''. It's an ambiguity within the Japanese language that is also reflected in how Nintendo handles Yoshi.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:35, January 13, 2021 (EST) | ::There's another underlying issue. As a Japanese company, Nintendo's Modus Operandi reflects very well how in the Japanese language the same term can refer to an individual, a member of a species or multiple individuals belonging to said species. We had throughout the years plenty of individuals with the name and standard appearance of the species they belong to, and this is definitely the case of Yoshi. Even more confusingly, as with the case of Toad, differently colored members of the species are still referred to as ''Yoshi''. It's an ambiguity within the Japanese language that is also reflected in how Nintendo handles Yoshi.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:35, January 13, 2021 (EST) | ||
:''Super Mario Bros. Wonder'' adds some fuel to the proverbial fire on this one. As you know, the playable Yoshis are called Yoshi, Red Yoshi, Yellow Yoshi, and Light-Blue Yoshi. Seems pretty clear at first, but the game also includes flavor text that swaps out your lead character's name when describing their party after clearing a world. In it, the three other Yoshis are '''all''' just named "Yoshi" (and similarly, Yellow Toad and Blue Toad are just named "Toad" even though, strictly speaking, there's no playable character by that name). This probably won't change much right now, but if nothing else, it's food for thought. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:24, January 4, 2024 (EST) | |||
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==Mistaken Identity in Mario's World?!: A tale of Two Yoshis== | |||
Hello, So I've been reading some contradictions. | |||
Below can be found in the [[Baby Yoshi]] article | |||
====''Yoshi's Island DS''==== | |||
A green Baby Yoshi makes an appearance in ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]''. After six of the [[star children]] are shown during the credits, '''a Baby Yoshi is revealed as the seventh and final star child upon hatching'''. Similarly to the Yoshis in ''Yoshi's Story'', this baby Yoshi looks strikingly similar to an adult Yoshi despite being a newborn. '''Due to his green coloration and status as a star child, it is possible that this baby Yoshi is the very same [[Yoshi]] that the grown up Mario Bros. would go on to rescue and ally with in ''Super Mario World'' and subsequent ''Super Mario'' games'''. | |||
Below can be found in [[Yoshi|Yoshi's]] article | |||
===Relationships=== | |||
====Friends==== | |||
Yoshi is one of Mario's closest friends, '''with their relationship stretching back to Mario's birth, when Yoshi helped reunite the newborn Baby Mario with his kidnapped brother, Baby Luigi. Mario, as an adult, has returned the favor in Yoshi's New Island by handing Yoshi powerful items if Yoshi is struggling in levels. Later, Mario helps free Yoshi's homeland from Bowser in Super Mario World''' | |||
Below can be found in the [[Yoshi's Island (series)]] article. | |||
[[Yoshi]] is the main protagonist of the ''Yoshi's Island'' series. He is one of the Yoshis who defend the islands whenever they are threatened by evil forces, often carrying Baby Mario and the other babies on his back. He, like the other Yoshis, has various abilities, including [[Flutter Jump]]ing in the air, [[Ground Pound|ground pound]]ing, swallowing enemies, and producing [[Yoshi's Egg]]s. Yoshi is often the one who finds Baby Mario and begins the quests. '''First Appearance''' [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]] | |||
===Conclusion=== | |||
It could be argued that [[Yoshi|Mr. T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas]], the Yoshi prominently featured in the ''Super Mario'' franchise, appearing in games such as ''Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars'', ''Super Mario 64'', the ''Mario Party'' series, the ''Mario Kart'' series, all the Sports games, ''Super Mario Odyssey'', and ''Super Mario Wonder'', is a separate entity from the Yoshi who prominently aids Baby Mario in the ''Yoshi's Island'' series. However, unlike Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, which was developed by [[Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and Development|Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and Development]]. Yoshi's Island DS was developed by [[Artoon]], which means different people on different development teams will have differing opinions on the subject leaving any answers to this topic unanswered for eternity, unless Nintendo says otherwise which will of course never happen --{{User:KevinM/sig}} 02:32, November 14, 2023 (EST) | |||
:Unless i'm overlooking this in your comment, another case proving your point would be Yoshi's line of dialogue in SMW. He introduces himself, as if this is the first time he and Mario meet. And yes, i know SMW came before Yoshi's island, but still. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:27, February 9, 2024 (EST) | |||