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You can's just copy to wikipedia site. There are templates and categories that do not apply to the Mario Wiki. --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 18:33, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
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I hope this post doesn't offend anyone; I'm just putting my thoughts out there. (also first edit on this wiki xp) [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 20:30, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
I hope this post doesn't offend anyone; I'm just putting my thoughts out there. (also first edit on this wiki xp) [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 20:30, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
:A proposal has (quite unfortunately) passed to remove much of it, actually, it just hasn't been fully-implemented yet. As for why we had it in the first place, because it's heavily-derivative of the ''Mario'' franchise, particularly in the name structure. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:34, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
::I understand that Mario is a major factor of it, but of course that's the case. Mario is Nintendo's cash cow; why wouldn't he be a sizable part of a Nintendo crossover fighter. That said, to be honest it could be argued that Smash derives more from Kirby than Mario. Masahiro Sakurai created both, though, so I suppose that is natural, but still. (Edit: Plus, as I said, it has [https://ssbwiki.com its own NIWA wiki].) Anyway like I said that's just my opinion. Thank you for your answer though! It is much appreciated. [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 22:16, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
:::And it's my opinion that Smashwiki is too jargony-diehard-oriented (how is a ten-year old supposed to know what a "nerf" is?), but that's neither here norr there. Anyway, there were no Kirby enemies in Brawl barring King Dedede's moveset, while Mario enemies were common, and more assets seem to be taken from Mario in other respects as well. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:27, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
::::Fair enough. I mean there's always Google, and SmashWiki even has its own pages on those terms but like you said it's not that important. Thanks again for the response!{{unsigned|Aykrivwassup}}
:::::Google wouldn't probably mostly show results for the toy gun company to be honest.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:44, 4 May 2018 (EDT)
About time someone mentioned this; I'm sick of seeing all this Smash content, as if Smash is some kind of Mario spinoff. - [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]]
Is there a current stance on it? I think there have been a bunch of proposals recently. --[[User:Megatron|Megatron]] ([[User talk:Megatron|talk]]) 13:26, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
== Persona ==
:''...music from [[Wikipedia:Persona 4|Persona 4]] and [[Wikipedia:Persona 3|Persona 3]]''
Is there a particular reason 4 is first? <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 00:32, October 1, 2019 (EDT)
:Probably not. IMO you can just reorder if it you want and I doubt there'll be much objection. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 01:01, October 1, 2019 (EDT)
== Chart Proposal: Add Roster Numbers to the Playable Characters Chart ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-5|Don't add}}
I am doing a chart proposal for the playable characters in this article. I know that we have a bunch of playable characters that are in the entire ''Super Smash Bros.'' series including ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' that are getting close to less than 100 as of right now. Since ''Ultimate'' managed to give roster numbers for every playable fighters in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', I think by adding the roster number into the chart would help the readers since we definitely know which characters by which number they appear since the checkmarks and Xs were used for the all the games and are only listed in alphabetical order instead of organized by the roster order.
This is my proposal for adding the roster numbers into the chart:
{| class="article-table sortable" border="1" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3 style="text-align:center"
|-
!width=39%| Character name
!width=7%| ''Super Smash Bros.''
!width=7%| ''Super Smash Bros. Melee''
!width=7%| ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''
!width=7%| ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS'' / ''Wii U''
!width=7%| ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''
!width=40%| Series
!width=7%| ''Roster Number''
|-
|[[Banjo]] & [[Kazooie]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Banjo-Kazooie'' series || 73
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|[[Bayonetta]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Bayonetta'' series || 63
|-
|[[Bowser]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 14
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|[[Bowser Jr.]] and [[Koopalings]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 58
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|[[Byleth]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 75
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|[[Captain Falcon]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''F-Zero'' series || 11
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|[[Charizard]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 35
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|[[Chrom]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 25e
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|[[Cloud Strife|Cloud]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Final Fantasy'' series || 61
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|[[Corrin]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 62
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|[[Princess Daisy|Daisy]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 13e
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|[[Dark Pit]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kid Icarus'' series || 28e
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|[[Dark Samus]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Metroid'' series || 04e
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|[[Diddy Kong]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Donkey Kong'' series || 36
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|[[Dr. Mario (character)|Dr. Mario]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 18
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|[[Donkey Kong]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Donkey Kong'' series || 02
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|[[Duck Hunt (character)|Duck Hunt]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Duck Hunt'' series || 59
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|[[Falco Lombardi|Falco]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Star Fox'' series || 20
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|[[Fox McCloud|Fox]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Star Fox'' series || 07
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|[[Ganondorf]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''The Legend of Zelda'' series || 23
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|[[Greninja]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 50
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|[[Hero]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Dragon Quest'' series || 72
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|[[Ice Climbers]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Ice Climber'' || 15
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|[[Ike]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 32
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|[[Incineroar]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||''Pokémon'' series || 69
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|[[Inkling]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||''Splatoon'' series || 64
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|[[Isabelle]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||''Animal Crossing'' series || 68
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|[[Ivysaur]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||''Pokémon'' series || 34
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|[[Jigglypuff]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 12
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|[[Joker]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Persona'' series || 71
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|[[Ken Masters|Ken]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||''Street Fighter'' series || 60e
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|[[King Dedede]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kirby'' series || 39
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|[[King K. Rool]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Donkey Kong'' series || 67
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|[[Kirby]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kirby'' series || 06
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|[[Link]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''The Legend of Zelda'' series || 03
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|[[Little Mac]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Punch-Out!!'' series || 49
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|[[Lucario]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 41
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|[[Lucas]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]](DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''EarthBound'' series || 37
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|[[Lucina]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 21e
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|[[Luigi]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 09
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|[[Mario]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 01
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|[[Marth]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 21
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|[[Mega Man]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mega Man series || 46
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|[[Meta Knight]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kirby'' series || 27
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|[[Mewtwo]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]](DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 24
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|[[Mii|Mii Fighters]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Super Smash Bros.'' series || 51-53
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|[[Min Min]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''ARMS''  || 76
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|[[Mr. Game & Watch]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Game & Watch'' series || 26
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|[[Ness]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]]  || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''EarthBound'' series || 10
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|[[Captain Olimar|Olimar]] and [[Alph]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]]{{footnote|main|1}} || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pikmin'' series || 40
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|[[Pac-Man]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pac-Man'' series || 55
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|[[Palutena]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kid Icarus'' series || 54
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|[[Princess Peach|Peach]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 13
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|[[Pichu]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 19
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|[[Pikachu]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 08
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|[[Piranha Plant]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) ||''Mario'' series || 70
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|[[Pit (character)|Pit]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Kid Icarus'' series || 28
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|[[Pokémon Trainer]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]]  ||[[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 33-35
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|[[Richter Belmont|Richter]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Castlevania'' series || 66e
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|[[Ridley]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Metroid'' series || 65
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|[[R.O.B.]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Robot'' series || 42
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|[[Robin]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 56
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|[[Rosalina]] & [[Luma (species)|Luma]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Mario'' series || 48
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|[[Roy (Fire Emblem)|Roy]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Fire Emblem'' series || 25
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|[[Ryu]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Street Fighter'' series || 60
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|[[Samus Aran|Samus]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Metroid'' series || 04
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|[[Sheik]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''The Legend of Zelda'' series || 16
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|[[Shulk]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Xenoblade Chronicles'' series || 57
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|[[Simon Belmont|Simon]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Castlevania'' series || 66
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|[[Solid Snake|Snake]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Metal Gear'' series || 31
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|[[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' series || 38
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|[[Squirtle]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''Pokémon'' series || 33
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|[[Steve (Minecraft)|Steve, Alex, Zombie, and Enderman]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Minecraft'' series || 77
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|[[Terry Bogard|Terry]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] (DLC) || ''Fatal Fury'' series || 74
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|[[Toon Link]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:X_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || [[File:Check_mark.svg|17px]] || ''The Legend of Zelda'' series || 43
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[[User:King Marth 64|King Marth 64]] ([[User talk:King Marth 64|talk]]) 16:16, October 3, 2020 (EDT)
'''Proposer''': {{User|King Marth 64}}<br>
'''Deadline''': October 17, 2020, 23:59 GMT
===Support===
#{{User|King Marth 64}} Per proposal
===Oppose===
#{{User|Scrooge200}} This seems to be entirely ''Ultimate''-based information. I'd rather have it just go on ''Ultimate'''s page.
#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} That can go on SmashWiki.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per Scrooge, this only applies to one game so far.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
#{{User|1337star}} This idea isn't future-proofed. What would we do if/when the next ''Smash'' game introduces new characters but doesn't use ''Ultimate'''s roster numbers?
===Comments===
I quickly checked Smash Wiki, and they decided not to use the numbers except for in the introductions of their Smash Ultimate character articles. Thus, I don't think this proposal can be opposed on the basis of it belonging on Smash Wiki. (This [[smashwiki:Talk:Fighter#Add_fighter_numbers|talk section]] states this directly, linking to this [[smashwiki:Talk:Fighter/Archive_3#Fighter_Numbers|talk section]], which shows the debate but not a decision. I'm assuming that a decision was reached on another page somewhere.) [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 20:27, October 3, 2020 (EDT)
==Current stance on Smash content on MarioWiki?==
What's the current stance on whether to add/remove/edit/change all the Smash information on this wiki? I've seen quite a few proposals/discussions but nothing conclusive. I think we're well past the period where Smash was considered a Mario spinoff by some people, and none of the other Nintendo or NIWA wikis do the same. --[[User:Megatron|Megatron]] ([[User talk:Megatron|talk]]) 13:29, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
:The most recent proposal on it ended in favor of keeping our current coverage the same. Also, we don't do things just because other wikis do or don't do them a certain way. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:35, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
:: Understood, I think that what the wiki already does, namely referring to Smash as "Mario-related media" rather than "Mario series" and clearly stating that it's not a Mario spinoff, may do the job. For reference, Serebii (the most popular Pokémon fansite) also has a page on every Smash fighter and it's weird af, so I guess it is a case of different sites doing their own thing. Do you have a link to the proposal, though? I'm interested in reading what people had to say. --[[User:Megatron|Megatron]] ([[User talk:Megatron|talk]]) 13:54, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
:::[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_56#Remove_non-Mario_characters_from_the_trophies,_Assist_Trophy,_stickers,_and_Spirit_pages|Sure, here it is.]] It's a bit of a long read, Smash coverage is a pretty heated topic around here. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:00, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
::::Thanks, I think I had a look at it but I think it excluded any decisions on the fighter pages themselves. Though imo I think the wiki is doing a good job already of establishing that Smash is ''not'' a Mario spinoff (especially compared to how it used to be), but like I said on the board maybe more can be done too? I'm thinking maybe an "external crossovers" category that covers any crossovers that aren't part of the Mario franchise or its true spinoffs (not just Smash but also Fortune Street, Captain N, etc.) --[[User:Megatron|Megatron]] ([[User talk:Megatron|talk]]) 14:05, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, going all-or-nothing in a proposal like this doesn't end well so usually they're limited to trimming only certain parts of Smash coverage. I assume that if this proposal had passed then other aspects of the series would've been re-assessed at a later time. You could start a proposal about your external crossovers idea if you want. Also, you might be interested in reading [[MarioWiki:Coverage]] which explains how we handle stuff like this. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:17, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
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