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After some thought about it, should we consider the "-in' Stu" name to be an error and use "Gooble" for ''Super Mario Sunshine'' material now that Mario Portal confirmed the name? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:18, August 14, 2022 (EDT) | After some thought about it, should we consider the "-in' Stu" name to be an error and use "Gooble" for ''Super Mario Sunshine'' material now that Mario Portal confirmed the name? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:18, August 14, 2022 (EDT) | ||
: Well, considering that the Mario Portal constantly calls Banzai Bills "Boomer Bills" even in early translations and calls Antottos "ants", I don't think so. Plus, it's important to remember that Prima most likely didn't know the "true name" of these guys, see "Plungelo" which are ''never'' called that in strategy guides because the name comes from one generic, random NPC. Plus, this ''really'' should have required a proposal. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:58, August 15, 2022 (EDT) | : Well, considering that the Mario Portal constantly calls Banzai Bills "Boomer Bills" even in early translations and calls Antottos "ants", I don't think so. Plus, it's important to remember that Prima most likely didn't know the "true name" of these guys, see "Plungelo" which are ''never'' called that in strategy guides because the name comes from one generic, random NPC. Plus, this ''really'' should have required a proposal. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:58, August 15, 2022 (EDT) | ||
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::: Eeeh, I'm not sure, because as the page says, puchipuchi just means bubbles being popped. Besides, I'm more than a little doubtful of these "official" English names because aside from calling Banzai Bills "Bomber Bills" and Bulls-Eye Banzai "Bull's Eye Bomber Bills", there's the Mario Portal calling Antottos "ants" which were a generic name from Nintendo Power and Ice Piranha Plants "Frost Piranhas" from Paper Mario despite the completely different look and powers. I mean, if you want to say that these guys are "Goobles" and not "Swoopin' Stus", then go ahead, but I'm very doubtful of the Mario Portal's "new names". [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 18:57, August 17, 2022 (EDT) | ::: Eeeh, I'm not sure, because as the page says, puchipuchi just means bubbles being popped. Besides, I'm more than a little doubtful of these "official" English names because aside from calling Banzai Bills "Bomber Bills" and Bulls-Eye Banzai "Bull's Eye Bomber Bills", there's the Mario Portal calling Antottos "ants" which were a generic name from Nintendo Power and Ice Piranha Plants "Frost Piranhas" from Paper Mario despite the completely different look and powers. I mean, if you want to say that these guys are "Goobles" and not "Swoopin' Stus", then go ahead, but I'm very doubtful of the Mario Portal's "new names". [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 18:57, August 17, 2022 (EDT) | ||
::::Bomber Bill isn't that far off from Boomer Bill, and Parabomb I can imagine being renamed because the wings and parachute in the ''Super Mario Maker 2'' make the "para-" less obvious. And aside from the ''Super Mario Land'' games mostly keeping the romanizations and a handful of ''Encyclopedia'' carryovers, there really isn't much wrong with Mario Portal. In fact, I sincerely think the ''Super Mario Land 2'' generic names were researched since it spotted the name for Tōsanbōru before us. They do approach legacy names differently than we at the wiki, but that's also to its benefit since it also makes it clearer what's what in some ways. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:24, August 17, 2022 (EDT) | ::::Bomber Bill isn't that far off from Boomer Bill, and Parabomb I can imagine being renamed because the wings and parachute in the ''Super Mario Maker 2'' make the "para-" less obvious. And aside from the ''Super Mario Land'' games mostly keeping the romanizations and a handful of ''Encyclopedia'' carryovers, there really isn't much wrong with Mario Portal. In fact, I sincerely think the ''Super Mario Land 2'' generic names were researched since it spotted the name for Tōsanbōru before us. They do approach legacy names differently than we at the wiki, but that's also to its benefit since it also makes it clearer what's what in some ways. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:24, August 17, 2022 (EDT) | ||
:::::I agree that Gooble should be the name used for ''Super Mario Sunshine'' material going forward. While there are a couple of odd choices, Mario Portal is maintained by Nintendo themselves, unlike the English localization for the ''Super Mario Encyclopedia''. (There are even examples of some of these English names being used recently for North American merchandise before Mario Portal even offered English names, such as with the Lego sets, so I am personally inclined to think that most if not all of these names have official, internal utilization as well.) If Mario Portal cannot be trusted as a reliable source for the names of the series' enemies, than what can be? - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 22:43, August 17, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::::::Thought I'd give my two cents and agree that Gooble should be the main name used from now on. I think it's significant that an official Nintendo source used the name so recently, and that it lines up with the name's appearance in Toadstool Tour as has been mentioned already. The fact that Gooble has been used twice in official sources directly from Nintendo gives it more credence than the Prima name, at least in my opinion. - [[User:SocialFrog|SocialFrog]] ([[User talk:SocialFrog|talk]]) 22:18, August 18, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::::: The only problem is at the time, we didn't think that "Gooble" meant these guys, as for Proto Piranhas, everyone ignored the new name because it only showed up on a scorecard in Toadstool Tour that no one looks at for more than a few seconds until Ultimate loudly and explicitly stated what the new name was. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 07:59, August 20, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::::::: I always thought the Gooble name made far more sense for them than "Swoopin' Stu": they look like goo and they emerge from puddles... okay maybe this is a stretch, but makes more sense than the later name when they don't ressemble any of the other Stus at all and don't do any swooping. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 09:11, August 20, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::::::::I always thought the "Swoopin' Stus" were referring to [[Winged Strollin' Stu]]s. I feel like the Prima guide made a huge error in naming the thing. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 22:26, August 25, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::{{User|Arend}} brought up a similar idea on the Winged Strollin' Stu [[Talk:Winged Strollin' Stu|talk page]]. @PrincessPeachFan: Before then, hardly anyone compared ''Toadstool Tour'' score names with the Japanese version (because it's kind of a hassle without a text dump). For instance, we had no clue what "Purp" referred to until Mario Portal too. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:51, August 27, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== are Goobles Goombas? == | |||
the internal name for the Gooble is namekuri2 kuri referring to kuribo(goomba) and the original name was Swoopin Stu but the most common name now is Gooble which does not refer to goombas so again are they goombas? {{unsigned|Tea-drinkin stu}} | |||
:I like to see more evidence. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:06, October 26, 2023 (EDT) | |||