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These pages would only be for recurring characters, as oneshot characters already have complete quote lists on their parent games' pages. Discretion should also be used when determining what recurring characters should get quotes pages. If a character is major in one game, but only has a few lines in another game or two, there is no point giving them a quote page either: just give them a Quotes section with {{tem|main}} to the major appearance, as well as some choice quotes from that and all the quotes from the minor appearance. Similarly, if a character appears in many games, but they only have a couple lines in each one, just compile them into a small list that fits in a single Quotes section (like how no separate list pages are needed when there's only one or two glitches or beta elements). Character with quotes list pages should also get Quotes sections linking to the lists with {{tem|Main}}, with a small sample of notable or characteristic (oft-repeated) quotes (in accordance with [[MarioWiki:Empty sections]]).
These pages would only be for recurring characters, as oneshot characters already have complete quote lists on their parent games' pages. Discretion should also be used when determining what recurring characters should get quotes pages. If a character is major in one game, but only has a few lines in another game or two, there is no point giving them a quote page either: just give them a Quotes section with {{tem|main}} to the major appearance, as well as some choice quotes from that and all the quotes from the minor appearance. Similarly, if a character appears in many games, but they only have a couple lines in each one, just compile them into a small list that fits in a single Quotes section (like how no separate list pages are needed when there's only one or two glitches or beta elements). Character with quotes list pages should also get Quotes sections linking to the lists with {{tem|Main}}, with a small sample of notable or characteristic (oft-repeated) quotes (in accordance with [[MarioWiki:Empty sections]]).


Each quote page will have a standardized header: "<code><nowiki>This is a list of quotes by [[character]].</nowiki></code>" (this will be added to [[MarioWiki:Subpages]]). The first section will be "General", and list quotes that appear in more than one appearance; if they only occur a couple times, the appearances can be listed (put these quotes at the bottom), but otherwise, just leave them. Try to put the most stereotypical quotes at the top (i.e. "Mama Mia" for Mario, "Help me, Mario!" for Peach, etc.), and remember that generic quotes ''are allowed here'' - just not things like screams ("ahhh"), nonsense and other stuff that sheds absolutely no light on the character ("hi", "okay", etc.); when in doubt, or when there's disagreement, take it to the talk page. After that section, go by genre/media type: Platformers first, since they usually have less quotes, and after that comes Sports, then Spinoffs (including all the random things), then the RPGs (since these are likely to be the big, hefty sections), then the "Non-game appearances", and finally, a Misc. section for commercials ("Mario, Mario, Mario ja nai!" - Peach, ''NSLU''), websites, and other things like that.. Specific series may be given headers, and specific games too, if they produce a large amount of quotes (typically, games sections will be reserved for the RPGs; spinoffs and sports will at least get series headers often, I suspect); otherwise, just put what game each quote is from following the quote All sections should follow the "unsorted" quotes; use chronological order for everything at every level as much as possible. For the non-game appearances, sections can be given for the different shows, movies, publications, etc., or just list them "unsorted" like the games/series with few quotes.
Each quote page will have a standardized header: "<code><nowiki>This is a list of quotes by [[character]].</nowiki></code>" (this will be added to [[MarioWiki:Lists]]). The first section will be "General", and list quotes that appear in more than one appearance; if they only occur a couple times, the appearances can be listed (put these quotes at the bottom), but otherwise, just leave them. Try to put the most stereotypical quotes at the top (i.e. "Mama Mia" for Mario, "Help me, Mario!" for Peach, etc.), and remember that generic quotes ''are allowed here'' - just not things like screams ("ahhh"), nonsense and other stuff that sheds absolutely no light on the character ("hi", "okay", etc.); when in doubt, or when there's disagreement, take it to the talk page. After that section, go by genre/media type: Platformers first, since they usually have less quotes, and after that comes Sports, then Spinoffs (including all the random things), then the RPGs (since these are likely to be the big, hefty sections), then the "Non-game appearances", and finally, a Misc. section for commercials ("Mario, Mario, Mario ja nai!" - Peach, ''NSLU''), websites, and other things like that.. Specific series may be given headers, and specific games too, if they produce a large amount of quotes (typically, games sections will be reserved for the RPGs; spinoffs and sports will at least get series headers often, I suspect); otherwise, just put what game each quote is from following the quote All sections should follow the "unsorted" quotes; use chronological order for everything at every level as much as possible. For the non-game appearances, sections can be given for the different shows, movies, publications, etc., or just list them "unsorted" like the games/series with few quotes.


Pretty sure that's everything. But again, the real proposal part's the first paragraph, so if that's all you read, you got the idea.
Pretty sure that's everything. But again, the real proposal part's the first paragraph, so if that's all you read, you got the idea.
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====Support====
====Support====
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per me. I've had this idea for ''years'' and have been mulling it over in earnest since [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_34#Delete_quote_sections.2Farticles_that_don.27t_have_any_meaningful_quotes|this proposal happened]]...
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per me. I've had this idea for ''years'' and have been mulling it over in earnest since [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/34#Delete_quote_sections.2Farticles_that_don.27t_have_any_meaningful_quotes|this proposal happened]]...
#{{User|GBAToad}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|GBAToad}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Zero777}} Seems like a pretty solid proposal. I'll support it! It's a good idea to have a separate page for that because putting a large list on the parent article clutters the place up and takes up too much space which can be bad for people with low bandwidth.
#{{User|Zero777}} Seems like a pretty solid proposal. I'll support it! It's a good idea to have a separate page for that because putting a large list on the parent article clutters the place up and takes up too much space which can be bad for people with low bandwidth.
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===Make {{fakelink|game-model}} template===
===Make {{fake link|game-model}} template===
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|7-10|don't create license or category}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|7-10|don't create license or category}}
Since there is really many 3D games.. and there is too much models on this wiki that is classed as a sprite. So I porpose we create a template for them. I'm not so good with copyrights, but here is an almost a copy from {{tem|game-sprite}}
Since there is really many 3D games.. and there is too much models on this wiki that is classed as a sprite. So I porpose we create a template for them. I'm not so good with copyrights, but here is an almost a copy from {{tem|game-sprite}}
{|align=center style="width:80%;background:#fff9f9;border:1px solid #C55;padding:5px;font-size:12px"
{|align=center style="width:80%;background:#fff9f9;border:1px solid #C55;padding:5px;font-size:12px"
|[[File:Copyright.svg|48px|Copyrighted game screenshot]]
|[[File:Copyright.svg|48px|Copyrighted game screenshot]]
|''This is a [[Wikipedia:3D modeling|model]] originally from a '''[[Wikipedia:Copyright|copyrighted]] computer or video game''', and the '''copyright''' for it is most likely held by the company that developed the game. It is believed that the use of a '''limited number''' of '''web-resolution''' models for '''identification and critical commentary on the computer or video game in question''' or '''the copyrighted character(s) depicted on the screenshot in question''' qualifies as '''[[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]]''' under [[Wikipedia:United States copyright law|United States copyright law]], as such display '''does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material''', is '''not being used to turn a profit in this context''', and presents ideas that '''cannot be exhibited otherwise'''. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|Copyrights]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Image description page#Fair use rationale|fair use rationale]].
|''This is a [[wikipedia:3D modeling|model]] originally from a '''[[wikipedia:Copyright|copyrighted]] computer or video game''', and the '''copyright''' for it is most likely held by the company that developed the game. It is believed that the use of a '''limited number''' of '''web-resolution''' models for '''identification and critical commentary on the computer or video game in question''' or '''the copyrighted character(s) depicted on the screenshot in question''' qualifies as '''[[wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]]''' under [[wikipedia:United States copyright law|United States copyright law]], as such display '''does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material''', is '''not being used to turn a profit in this context''', and presents ideas that '''cannot be exhibited otherwise'''. See [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|Copyrights]] and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Image description page#Fair use rationale|fair use rationale]].
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}  (lots of help from {{User|Walkazo}} appreciated)<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}  (lots of help from {{User|Walkazo}} appreciated)<br>
'''Deadline''': September 13, 2013 23:59 GMT
'''Proposed Deadline''': September 13, 2013 23:59 GMT<br>
'''Date Withdrawn:''' September 3, 2013, 21:25 GMT


====Support====
====Support====
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===The Template Shuffle===
===The Template Shuffle===
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|revise the colours and groupings}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|revise the colours and groupings}}
[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_30#Navigation_Templates|Last year]] I drafted the colour-coding system for the templates, and now that we've had time to see it in action, I have some revisions, which can be seen [[User:Walkazo/Essays#Colour_shuffle|in this chart here]]. Red shows which templates are changing, and I have a list of all the specific changes and the reasons why below the chart, but I'll try to summarize it here:
[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/30#Navigation_Templates|Last year]] I drafted the colour-coding system for the templates, and now that we've had time to see it in action, I have some revisions, which can be seen [[User:Walkazo/Essays#Colour_shuffle|in this chart here]]. Red shows which templates are changing, and I have a list of all the specific changes and the reasons why below the chart, but I'll try to summarize it here:


#'''Make spinoffs yellow, sports light green, and Wario purple.''' Right now, the major character pages have massive blocks of purple and aqua with a few reds, blues and teals, making it look more like a bowl of Skittles than a ''Mario''-themed navigation nexus. I blame myself for somehow forgetting that spinoffs are so numerous, but making them yellow (and the sports green) will make the template blocks a lot more ''Mario''ish in colour, plus it'll brighten them up. And purple still works for Wario, so no problem on that end of the swap.
#'''Make spinoffs yellow, sports light green, and Wario purple.''' Right now, the major character pages have massive blocks of purple and aqua with a few reds, blues and teals, making it look more like a bowl of Skittles than a ''Mario''-themed navigation nexus. I blame myself for somehow forgetting that spinoffs are so numerous, but making them yellow (and the sports green) will make the template blocks a lot more ''Mario''ish in colour, plus it'll brighten them up. And purple still works for Wario, so no problem on that end of the swap.
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:Then try making one up yourself (save the template and everything)and ask me or another admin to approve it and add it to the chart. Just like with footer colours (which is explained in the last paragraph of [[MarioWiki:Navigation_Templates#Colouration|this section of MW:NAV]]). Worst-case scenario is that we might use a slightly different colour instead, but either way, the subheader will get made. - {{User|Walkazo}}
:Then try making one up yourself (save the template and everything)and ask me or another admin to approve it and add it to the chart. Just like with footer colours (which is explained in the last paragraph of [[MarioWiki:Navigation_Templates#Colouration|this section of MW:NAV]]). Worst-case scenario is that we might use a slightly different colour instead, but either way, the subheader will get made. - {{User|Walkazo}}


While going trough some templates, I found {{tem|Morphs}}, I think it should be merged with game templates, but what about {{tem|Galaxy}} & {{tem|Galaxy2}}? {{User|Megadardery}}
While going trough some templates, I found {{tem|Yoshi forms}}, I think it should be merged with game templates, but what about {{tem|SMG missions}} & {{tem|SMG2 missions}}? {{User|Megadardery}}
:That question's rather tangential to the goals of this proposal... But yeah, Morphs should be merged with the YI/YIDS templates. But as I keep saying on the forums, the Galaxy templates are fine the way they are, with their unique names and designs and whatnot, and I still think we should leave them be. - {{User|Walkazo}}
:That question's rather tangential to the goals of this proposal... But yeah, Yoshi forms should be merged with the YI/YIDS templates. But as I keep saying on the forums, the Galaxy templates are fine the way they are, with their unique names and designs and whatnot, and I still think we should leave them be. - {{User|Walkazo}}


::As you may see, Ultra Koopa changed the color to Mario series' color. Is this design what you meant with 'unique designs'? {{User|Megadardery}}
::As you may see, Ultra Koopa changed the color to Mario series' color. Is this design what you meant with 'unique designs'? {{User|Megadardery}}
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi876}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi876}}<br>
'''Deadline''': September 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT
'''Proposed Deadline''': September 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT<br>
'''Date Withdrawn:''' September 22, 2013, 18:50 GMT


====Use only American spellings====
====Use only American spellings====
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===Make a template encouraging non-users that have made 20 or more edits to make an account===
===Make a template encouraging non-users that have made 20 or more edits to make an account===
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|4-15|do not create template}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|4-15|do not create template}}
[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_31#Make_a_bot_template_to_non-users_that_have_made_20_or_more_edits_to_encourage_them_to_make_an_account|The Idea]] was very good. It was thrown away and forgotten just because [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3APorplemontage&diff=1385890&oldid=1385884 the automatic process won't work]. But we can issue the template manually. Thankfully, [[User:NewSMBU]] created a draft, with minor changes, I created [[User:Megadardery/Sandbox|another draft]]. While this proposal is going, changes can be done to the draft.
[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/31#Make_a_bot_template_to_non-users_that_have_made_20_or_more_edits_to_encourage_them_to_make_an_account|The Idea]] was very good. It was thrown away and forgotten just because [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3APorplemontage&diff=1385890&oldid=1385884 the automatic process won't work]. But we can issue the template manually. Thankfully, [[User:NewSMBU]] created a draft, with minor changes, I created [[User:Megadardery/Sandbox|another draft]]. While this proposal is going, changes can be done to the draft.


'''Proposer:''' {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' September 25, 2013 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline:''' September 25, 2013 23:59 GMT
====Support====
====Support====
#{{User|Megadardery}} Per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_31#Make_a_bot_template_to_non-users_that_have_made_20_or_more_edits_to_encourage_them_to_make_an_account|old proposal]]
#{{User|Megadardery}} Per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/31#Make_a_bot_template_to_non-users_that_have_made_20_or_more_edits_to_encourage_them_to_make_an_account|old proposal]]
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Will help get more contributive members, per proposal.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Will help get more contributive members, per proposal.
#{{User|Driftmaster130}} Great idea, per all.
#{{User|Driftmaster130}} Great idea, per all.
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'''Proposer''': {{User|PPLToast}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|PPLToast}}<br>
'''Deadline''': September 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT.
'''Deadline''': September 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT.<br>
'''Date Vetoed:''' October 11, 2013, 17:05 GMT


====Support====
====Support====
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The Image Map's any dimension must not exceed '''400 pixels''', and the other one must not exceed '''200 pixels'''.
The Image Map's any dimension must not exceed '''400 pixels''', and the other one must not exceed '''200 pixels'''.
The Image Map's width in the {{tem|Worldbox}} template must never exceed '''300 pixels'''.<br>
The Image Map's width in the {{tem|world infobox}} template must never exceed '''300 pixels'''.<br>
I specified the sizes depending on medium sized screens, so it does not look very small, or very big. Reason includes that if maps were larger than that then the page would look very crowded.
I specified the sizes depending on medium sized screens, so it does not look very small, or very big. Reason includes that if maps were larger than that then the page would look very crowded.


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Otherwise a variable must be declared; so if it is set to <code>infobox</code>,it would be aligned in the center and it would be classed as <code>none</code>. And if it is not set, it would be classed as a <code>thumbnail</code> and it would be aligned to the right.
Otherwise a variable must be declared; so if it is set to <code>infobox</code>,it would be aligned in the center and it would be classed as <code>none</code>. And if it is not set, it would be classed as a <code>thumbnail</code> and it would be aligned to the right.


In other word, templates like {{tem|NSMBmap}} are put inside the {{tem|Worldbox}} and never outside, so it is classed as <code>none</code> and it is aligned in the center, so it looks centered and without borders in the template. Templates like {{tem|PMTTYDmap}} are put outsise the Worldbox template and never inside, so it is classed as <code>thumbnail</code> and aligned to the right. However templates like {{tem|NSMBUmap}} are put both inside and outside, so there is a variable defining if it would be put in the Worldbox template, or would be put outside.
In other word, templates like {{tem|NSMBmap}} are put inside the {{tem|world infobox}} and never outside, so it is classed as <code>none</code> and it is aligned in the center, so it looks centered and without borders in the template. Templates like {{tem|PMTTYD map}} are put outsise the Worldbox template and never inside, so it is classed as <code>thumbnail</code> and aligned to the right. However templates like {{tem|NSMBU map}} are put both inside and outside, so there is a variable defining if it would be put in the Worldbox template, or would be put outside.


The template must only be put where it links to (i.e If the template only links to {{fakelink|page1}} and {{fakelink|page2}}, it must never be put on {{fakelink|page3}}). That's because it is unneeded on an unrelated page.
The template must only be put where it links to (i.e If the template only links to {{fake link|page1}} and {{fake link|page2}}, it must never be put on {{fake link|page3}}). That's because it is unneeded on an unrelated page.


If the article is about a subject that only appeared in the Image Map's game, the template should be put under the info-box. Otherwise the template should be put as the first line in the game's section on the article.
If the article is about a subject that only appeared in the Image Map's game, the template should be put under the info-box. Otherwise the template should be put as the first line in the game's section on the article.


Explaining: {{tem|PMTTYDmap}} links to [[X-Naut Fortress]] and [[The Moon]].. Since X-Naut Fortress only appeared in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, the template is put under the infobox, However The Moon appeared in multiple games, so the template is put in the game's section.
Explaining: {{tem|PMTTYD map}} links to [[X-Naut Fortress]] and [[The Moon]].. Since X-Naut Fortress only appeared in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, the template is put under the infobox, However The Moon appeared in multiple games, so the template is put in the game's section.


For the Platformer games: in the Worlds pages, the template should be put in the <code>map</code> parameter of the {{tem|Worldbox}} template (using the code <code><nowiki>|map={{templatename}}</nowiki></code>). Reason includes it unneeded to crowd the page with a template, which can be put inside the infobox template.
For the Platformer games: in the Worlds pages, the template should be put in the <code>map</code> parameter of the {{tem|world infobox}} template (using the code <code><nowiki>|map={{templatename}}</nowiki></code>). Reason includes it unneeded to crowd the page with a template, which can be put inside the infobox template.


Last three sections describe basics of creating the template.
Last three sections describe basics of creating the template.
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*[[:Category:Articles with long trivia sections]]
*[[:Category:Articles with long trivia sections]]
*[[:Category:Pages with broken file links]] & [[:Category:Articles with broken file links]]
*[[:Category:Pages with broken file links]] & [[:Category:Articles with broken file links]]
*[[:Category:Citation needed]]
*[[:Category:Articles with unsourced statements]]
*[[:Category:Disambiguation]] -- It looks neater for Disamb pages to appear without categories
*[[:Category:Disambiguation]] -- It looks neater for Disamb pages to appear without categories
*[[:Category:Image requested]]
*[[:Category:Articles that need an image]]
*[[:Category:Quality requested]]
*[[:Category:Images to be reuploaded with higher quality]]
*[[:Category:Merge requested]] & [[:Category:Split requested]]
*[[:Category:Pages pending merge]] & [[:Category:Pages pending split]]
*[[:Category:Pages with media files]]
*[[:Category:Pages with media files]]
*[[:Category:Protection Change Requested]]
*[[:Category:Protection Change Requested]]
*[[:Category:Deletion requested]]* & [[:Category:To be deleted]]* & [[:Category:Talk to be deleted]]*
*[[:Category:Pages pending deletion]]* & [[:Category:Pages to be deleted]]* & [[:Category:Talk to be deleted]]*
*[[:Category:Rewrite requested]] & [[:Category:Rewrite and expansion requested]]
*[[:Category:Articles to be rewritten]] & [[:Category:Articles to be rewritten and expanded]]
*[[:Category:Stubs]] & [[:Category:Section Stubs]] & [[:Category:New Stubs]]
*[[:Category:Stubs]] & [[:Category:Articles with stub sections]] & [[:Category:New Stubs]]


'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
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Like I said, there are also anons that are willing to contribute the wiki. Keep the hidden categories visible for them. {{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}
Like I said, there are also anons that are willing to contribute the wiki. Keep the hidden categories visible for them. {{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}


:Most-to-All Maintenance categories can be seen in [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]], I purpose hiding them so the categories bar doesn't get crowded with them.. Taking [[Trick]] as an example, and you will see that there is 2 categories which aren't helpful in navigation ''at all''. Look at [[List of Mario references on the Web]] and you would see that 3/5 categories are not related to the article just Maintenance. Imagine if this article was requested to be protected (which what I would just about to do, before Walkazo done it) and has media files (which what I will do soon), and it need a reference or two. That would mean that 6/8 of categories which will be hidden from normal view. {{User|Megadardery}}
:Most-to-All Maintenance categories can be seen in [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]], I purpose hiding them so the categories bar doesn't get crowded with them.. Taking [[Trick]] as an example, and you will see that there is 2 categories which aren't helpful in navigation ''at all''. Look at [[List of references on the Internet]] and you would see that 3/5 categories are not related to the article just Maintenance. Imagine if this article was requested to be protected (which what I would just about to do, before Walkazo done it) and has media files (which what I will do soon), and it need a reference or two. That would mean that 6/8 of categories which will be hidden from normal view. {{User|Megadardery}}
::So? Anyone can ignore them. You don't need to hide them, especially when that means anons cannot navigate with the bar, as they don't have a preference page. {{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}
::So? Anyone can ignore them. You don't need to hide them, especially when that means anons cannot navigate with the bar, as they don't have a preference page. {{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}


:::ِAgain, all Maintenance categories are found in [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]] and [[:Category:MarioWiki Maintenance]] {{User|Megadardery}}
:::ِAgain, all Maintenance categories are found in [[MarioWiki:Maintenance]] and [[:Category:Maintenance]] {{User|Megadardery}}


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'''Proposer''': {{User|Mario7}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Mario7}}<br>
'''Deadline''': October 14, 2013 23:59 GMT
'''Proposed Deadline''': October 14, 2013 23:59 GMT<br>
'''Date Withdrawn:''' October 8, 2013, 18:19 GMT


====Support====
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Megadardery}}<br>
'''Deadline''': October, 21 2013 23:59 GMT
'''Proposed Deadline''': October, 21 2013 23:59 GMT<br>
'''Date Withdrawn:''' October 14, 2013, 22:27 GMT


====Support====
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===Guideline section for "References to other games"/"References in later games"===
===Guideline section for "References to other games"/"References in later games"===
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|accepted}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|accepted}}
After reading [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 35#Guidelines for what is a reference and what is not|this proposal]], I've been observing the sections "References to other games" and "References in later games" in game articles for quite a while, and I agree people kind of exaggerate it: even when something resembles another thing to them, it does not mean the purpose was to make a reference. The sections are filled with examples, like these from ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'':
After reading [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/35#Guidelines for what is a reference and what is not|this proposal]], I've been observing the sections "References to other games" and "References in later games" in game articles for quite a while, and I agree people kind of exaggerate it: even when something resembles another thing to them, it does not mean the purpose was to make a reference. The sections are filled with examples, like these from ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]'':


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