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*Page 44: A Genkotsu is known as a "[[Pipe Fist]]," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2018. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | *Page 44: A Genkotsu is known as a "[[Pipe Fist]]," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2018. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | ||
*Page 55: A [[tornado]] is known as a "[[Tweester]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' section, which was conflated by the wiki from 2006 to 2017. The same oddity exists in [[Prima Games]]' ''Playing with Power: Nintendo NES Classics''. | *Page 55: A [[tornado]] is known as a "[[Tweester]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' section, which was conflated by the wiki from 2006 to 2017. The same oddity exists in [[Prima Games]]' ''Playing with Power: Nintendo NES Classics''. | ||
*Page 63: A [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]] is known as a "Fire Jumpin’ Piranha," which is based on the conjectural "Fire Jumping Piranha" title from 2015 to 2018. | *Page 63: A [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]] is known as a "Fire Jumpin’ Piranha," which is based on the wiki's conjectural "Fire Jumping Piranha" title from 2015 to 2018. | ||
*Pages 75 and 76: With the exception of "[[Fireball Boy]]," nearly every enemy name from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'' is directly lifted from the wiki titles, with macrons removed from romanizations where applicable. This includes "[[Bee Fly|Be]]" and "[[Bomubomu]]," which went under the names B Fly and Bomubomu 1 2 3, respectively, in the Japanese version. A similar action was done to unlocalized enemies (and then-undiscovered localizations) from ''Zelda II: The Adventure of Link'' in Dark Horse's ''The Legend of Zelda: Arts & Artifacts''. Additionally, "[[Ant]]" was a general term and "[[Bee (Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins)|Bibi]]" had a name in ''[[Nintendo Power]]'', leading both articles to be retitled in 2019. Most of these names would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | *Pages 75 and 76: With the exception of "[[Fireball Boy]]," nearly every enemy name from ''[[Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins]]'' is directly lifted from the wiki titles, with macrons removed from romanizations where applicable. This includes "[[Bee Fly|Be]]" and "[[Bomubomu]]," which went under the names B Fly and Bomubomu 1 2 3, respectively, in the Japanese version. A similar action was done to unlocalized enemies (and then-undiscovered localizations) from ''Zelda II: The Adventure of Link'' in Dark Horse's ''The Legend of Zelda: Arts & Artifacts''. Additionally, "[[Ant]]" was a general term and "[[Bee (Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins)|Bibi]]" had a name in ''[[Nintendo Power]]'', leading both articles to be retitled in 2019. Most of these names would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Page 78: A [[Moneybag (item)|Moneybag]] is known as a "Money Bag," which was an unsourced title from 2007 to 2017. | *Page 78: A [[Moneybag (item)|Moneybag]] is known as a "Money Bag," which was an unsourced title from 2007 to 2017. | ||
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*Page 86: A [[Moneybags]] is known as a "Moneybag" in the ''Super Mario 64'' section only. This was the same mistake on the wiki from 2009 to 2018, and it would be repeated in the English Mario Portal. | *Page 86: A [[Moneybags]] is known as a "Moneybag" in the ''Super Mario 64'' section only. This was the same mistake on the wiki from 2009 to 2018, and it would be repeated in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Page 92: A [[chair]] is known as a "Killer Chair," which is a translation of an unofficial Japanese name styled after [[Bookend|Killer Book]] and [[Mad Piano|Killer Piano]]. In the book, the latter two are listed among enemies, while the former is listed among "Items & Obstacles." Additionally, it has a completely different name in the Japanese version of the book (Poltergeist). | *Page 92: A [[chair]] is known as a "Killer Chair," which is a translation of an unofficial Japanese name styled after [[Bookend|Killer Book]] and [[Mad Piano|Killer Piano]]. In the book, the latter two are listed among enemies, while the former is listed among "Items & Obstacles." Additionally, it has a completely different name in the Japanese version of the book (Poltergeist). | ||
*Page 92: A [[flame thrower (Flame Chomp)|flame thrower]] is known as a "Kuromame," which is a romanization of an unofficial Japanese name used | *Page 92: A [[flame thrower (Flame Chomp)|flame thrower]] is known as a "Kuromame," which is a romanization of an unofficial Japanese name used by the wiki from 2011 to 2017. The Japanese version of the book uses the name Keronpa Ball, which is based on the enemy's appearance as [[Flame Chomp|Keronpa]] in ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]''. | ||
*Page 99: The [[Electro-Koopa King]] is known as "Electro-Koopa (green)," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2019. | *Page 99: The [[Electro-Koopa King]] is known as "Electro-Koopa (green)," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2019. | ||
*Page 100: A [[Winged Strollin' Stu]] is known as a "Soarin’ Stu," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2017. | *Page 100: A [[Winged Strollin' Stu]] is known as a "Soarin’ Stu," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2017. | ||
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*Page 101: The [[Noki grandson]] is known as the "Noki Elder's Grandson," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | *Page 101: The [[Noki grandson]] is known as the "Noki Elder's Grandson," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | ||
*Page 105: The electric goop is known as "Electric Graffiti," an Orange Juice Generator is known as a "Forcefield," and the burning goop is known as "Lava Graffiti," which were conjectural names in the [[goop|graffiti]] article from roughly 2008 to 2019. | *Page 105: The electric goop is known as "Electric Graffiti," an Orange Juice Generator is known as a "Forcefield," and the burning goop is known as "Lava Graffiti," which were conjectural names in the [[goop|graffiti]] article from roughly 2008 to 2019. | ||
*Pages 113 and 117: The [[giant Wiggler]] is known as a "[[Big Wiggler]]," which | *Pages 113 and 117: The [[giant Wiggler]] is known as a "[[Big Wiggler]]," which were conflated by the wiki since 2013 until a 2019 proposal. | ||
*Page 119: A [[floor (Mario Bros.)|floor]] is known as an "orange platform," which was a conjectural name on the [[World 2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] article from 2008 to 2013 and subsequently the [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] article from 2013 to 2022. | *Page 119: A [[floor (Mario Bros.)|floor]] is known as an "orange platform," which was a conjectural name on the [[World 2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] article from 2008 to 2013 and subsequently the [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] article from 2013 to 2022. | ||
*Page 119: A [[face block (platform)|face block]] is known as a "Platform Block," which was an unsourced title from 2009 to 2019. | *Page 119: A [[face block (platform)|face block]] is known as a "Platform Block," which was an unsourced title from 2009 to 2019. | ||
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*Page 126: [[Comet Tico]] is known as "Lumacomète," which was a French name used as the article title from 2012 to 2018 that was briefly changed in 2014 and 2015. | *Page 126: [[Comet Tico]] is known as "Lumacomète," which was a French name used as the article title from 2012 to 2018 that was briefly changed in 2014 and 2015. | ||
*Page 127: A [[Spoing]] is known as a "Bouncing [[Scuttlebug]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' section only. This is a remnant of when Spoings and [[Sprangler]]s were erroneously considered Scuttlebugs by the wiki, which was settled via a 2012 proposal that was mistakenly neglected until 2018. | *Page 127: A [[Spoing]] is known as a "Bouncing [[Scuttlebug]]" in the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' section only. This is a remnant of when Spoings and [[Sprangler]]s were erroneously considered Scuttlebugs by the wiki, which was settled via a 2012 proposal that was mistakenly neglected until 2018. | ||
*Page 127: A [[Bonefin]] is known as a "[[Fish Bone]] | *Page 127: A [[Bonefin]] is known as a "[[Fish Bone]]," which were conflated by the wiki until a 2018 proposal. | ||
*Page 128: A [[bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|bat]] is known as a "[[Swoop]]" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section only. The wiki considered them the same thing | *Page 128: A [[bat (Super Mario Galaxy)|bat]] is known as a "[[Swoop]]" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section only. The wiki considered them the same thing until a 2017 proposal. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mini Chomp]] is known as a "Chibi Chomp." This is | *Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mini Chomp]] is known as a "Chibi Chomp." This is an unofficial localization of its alternate Japanese name (Chibi Wanwan) that was used as the wiki title from 2016 to 2017. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A Fire Pressure is known as a "[[Fire Shooter]]," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2015. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | *Pages 127 and 159: A Fire Pressure is known as a "[[Fire Shooter]]," which was a conjectural title from 2007 to 2015. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mikey Mine]] is known as a "[[mine|Floating Mine]]." The wiki considered them the same thing | *Pages 127 and 159: A [[Mikey Mine]] is known as a "[[mine|Floating Mine]]." The wiki considered them the same thing until a 2023 proposal. | ||
*Pages 128 and 160: The Stink Bug Parent is known as the "[[Mandibug Stack]]," which was a conjectural title from 2013 to 2017. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | *Pages 128 and 160: The Stink Bug Parent is known as the "[[Mandibug Stack]]," which was a conjectural title from 2013 to 2017. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Pages 128 and 161: A [[Tracks (enemy)|Tracks]] is known as a "Starbag," which | *Pages 128 and 161: A [[Tracks (enemy)|Tracks]] is known as a "Starbag," which was an unofficial translation of its apparent German name used by the wiki from 2009 to 2017. | ||
*Pages 128 and 161: A [[Spring Vault]] is known as a "[[Sentry Beam]]," with the actual Sentry Beam known by its Japanese name "Laser Pod" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section and the name "Mobile Sentry Beam" (on page 160) in the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' section. Additionally, a [[Ball Beamer]] is known as a "Bolt Beam" (on page 126) and its description suggests that it is a derivative of the book's Sentry Beam, which is not mentioned in the Japanese version. This is all based on previous versions of the Sentry Beam article from 2010 to 2018, where the conjectural names "Mobile Sentry Beam" and "Bolt Sentry Beam" also appeared. | *Pages 128 and 161: A [[Spring Vault]] is known as a "[[Sentry Beam]]," with the actual Sentry Beam known by its Japanese name "Laser Pod" in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' section and the name "Mobile Sentry Beam" (on page 160) in the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' section. Additionally, a [[Ball Beamer]] is known as a "Bolt Beam" (on page 126) and its description suggests that it is a derivative of the book's Sentry Beam, which is not mentioned in the Japanese version. This is all based on previous versions of the Sentry Beam article from 2010 to 2018, where the conjectural names "Mobile Sentry Beam" and "Bolt Sentry Beam" also appeared. | ||
*Pages 128 and 161: The names of [[Spiny Piranha Plant]] and | *Pages 128 and 161: The names of [[Spiny Piranha Plant]] and [[Prickly Piranha Plant]] are swapped. This mirrors a mistake on the wiki that went unnoticed from 2010 to 2019. | ||
*Page 136: A [[Banandelion]] is known as a "Fling Flower," which was a separate article using a conjectural title from 2011 to 2018. | *Page 136: A [[Banandelion]] is known as a "Fling Flower," which was a separate article using a conjectural title from 2011 to 2018. | ||
*Pages 137 and 171: A [[rubbery bulb]] is known as a "Stretch Plant," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | *Pages 137 and 171: A [[rubbery bulb]] is known as a "Stretch Plant," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2019. | ||
*Pages 137, 171, and 186: A [[note]] is known as a "Rainbow Note," which was an unsourced title from 2006 to 2019. | *Pages 137, 171, and 186: A [[note]] is known as a "Rainbow Note," which was an unsourced title from 2006 to 2019. | ||
*Pages 144 and 146: A [[Hefty Goomba]] and [[Big Goomba]] are respectively known as a "Big Goomba" and "Mega Goomba" in the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' section only. This is taken from | *Pages 144 and 146: A [[Hefty Goomba]] and a [[Big Goomba]] are respectively known as a "Big Goomba" and a "Mega Goomba" in the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' section only. This is taken from a mistake that was on their wiki articles, which was not fixed until 2018. | ||
*Page 150: An Obake Stand is known as a "[[Ghost Vase]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2017. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | *Page 150: An Obake Stand is known as a "[[Ghost Vase]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2017. The wiki reverted to this title in a 2022 proposal. | ||
*Pages 151 and 217: The [[poison fog|ash]] is known as "Volcanic Smoke," which was a conjectural title from 2016 to 2018. | *Pages 151 and 217: The [[poison fog|ash]] is known as "Volcanic Smoke," which was a conjectural title from 2016 to 2018. | ||
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*Page 161: A Pattan is known as a "[[Whimp]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2018 that was briefly changed in 2015. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | *Page 161: A Pattan is known as a "[[Whimp]]," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2018 that was briefly changed in 2015. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Page 166: The [[Sand Bird]] is known as the "Sand Sailer," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2020. | *Page 166: The [[Sand Bird]] is known as the "Sand Sailer," which was a conjectural title from 2010 to 2020. | ||
*Page 169: The [[red and blue blocks]] are known as "Reversible Walls" in the description for [[Flip-Out Galaxy]], which was a conjectural name from 2013 to 2022, | *Page 169: The [[red and blue blocks]] are known as "Reversible Walls" in the description for [[Flip-Out Galaxy]], which was a conjectural name from 2013 to 2022. However, they are instead called "Red and Blue Blocks" in the description for [[Wicked Wall Jumps]]. | ||
*Page 185: A [[Flip Panel (platform)|Flip Panel]] is known as a "Flip Panel Switch," which was | *Page 185: A [[Flip Panel (platform)|Flip Panel]] is known as a "Flip Panel Switch," which was an incorrect name in the [[Special 6-3]] article from 2017 to 2022. | ||
*Page 201: A [[segmented platform]] is known as a "[[Spine Coaster]]." The wiki considered them the same thing | *Page 201: A [[segmented platform]] is known as a "[[Spine Coaster]]." The wiki considered them the same thing until a 2020 split. | ||
*Page 210: A Dai Gorō is known as a "[[Mega Grrrol]]," which was a conjectural title from 2012 to 2017. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | *Page 210: A Dai Gorō is known as a "[[Mega Grrrol]]," which was a conjectural title from 2012 to 2017. This name would later appear in the English Mario Portal. | ||
*Page 215: A [[Huge Fire Bar]] is known as a "Big Fire Bar," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2019. | *Page 215: A [[Huge Fire Bar]] is known as a "Big Fire Bar," which was a conjectural title from 2015 to 2019. | ||