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 Why is this a disambiguation page? Shouldn't this be a series page of sorts or something? [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 08:48, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
-:I agree with you, GreenDisaster. Just because it isn't well-known doesn't mean that it should be a disambiguation page. As it should cover a series of games, it should also be moved to {{fakelink|Mario's Early Years! (series)}} to maintain consistency. Also, since all three titles linked to on the article as of now appears to begin with "Mario's Early Years!", it must contain an exclamation point as well. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 14:07, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
+:I agree with you, GreenDisaster. Just because it isn't well-known doesn't mean that it should be a disambiguation page. As it should cover a series of games, it should also be moved to {{fake link|Mario's Early Years! (series)}} to maintain consistency. Also, since all three titles linked to on the article as of now appears to begin with "Mario's Early Years!", it must contain an exclamation point as well. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 14:07, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
 ::Shouldn't we apply what you just said ? I don't know why it is still marked as an unresolved talk page. By the way, can we rename the page without "approval" in this case ? And why the "(serie)" is necessary ? This the only page who have this name. Sorry for those questions :/ [[User:Banon|Banon]] ([[User talk:Banon|talk]]) 03:47, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
 :::I have no real opinion on this but what I meant was that you shouldn't move conjectural names with out a proposal. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
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 :{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 06:24, 11 November 2012 (EST)
+== Mario Discovery series ==
+I first thought the name "Mario Discovery" was made-up, and that's why [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Koopa_Troopa&diff=1446503&oldid=1442657 I had removed it in the Koopa Troopa article].
+But after a while I found it mentionned in the ''[[Mario's Time Machine]]'' article.<br>
+After that, I also found [[wikipedia:List of Mario educational games|the Wikipedia article that lists the Mario educationnal games]]. It reads:
+<blockquote>The "Mario Discovery Series" is a label given to five Mario educational games that were developed by The Software Toolworks.[2]</blockquote>. The source is a link, that contains [http://www.nintendoplayer.com/prototype/mario-is-missing/ that link], which reads:
+<blockquote>In part because of “Nintendo’s favorable evaluation of development work” on Mario is Missing!, the initial contract with The Software Toolworks expanded to include four more Mario edutainment software titles, what would later make up the Mario Discovery Series: Mario’s Time Machine, Mario’s Early Years: Fun with Numbers, Mario’s Early Years: Fun with Letters, and Mario’s Early Years: Preschool Fun.</blockquote>
+Do you think "Mario Discovery" is an official name? If so, we should move that page to "Mario Discovery (series)" and includes information for ''[[Mario is Missing!]]'' and ''[[Mario's Time Machine]]''.<br>{{User:Banon/sig}} 16:05, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
+:We need more sources confirming this name. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 22:38, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
+== Rename to {{fake link|''Mario Discovery'' (series)}} and consider ''Mario is Missing!'' and ''Mario's Time Machine'' as part of the series ==
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|rename and add ''Mario is Missing!'' and ''Mario's Time Machine'' to the series page}}
+This is in light of the comments directly above.
+While I ''can'' see why everyone lumped in only the ''Mario's Early Years!'' games here, I'm pretty certain that the other edutainment games are meant to be part of this series as well. Though it may seem that I have no proof to back it up, I ''do'' have some information that can be used to support this proposal:
+*All five games are in the edutainment genre.
+*All five games were developed by the same third-party company (Software Toolworks / Mindscape).
+*'''[http://www.nintendoplayer.com/prototypes/marioismissing/scans/Video%20Games%20&%20Computer%20Entertainment%20Issue%2053%20June%201993%20page%20033.jpg One official magazine scan I found] heavily implies in the very first sentence that the series was meant to include ''Mario is Missing!'' and ''Mario's Time Machine'' as well.'''
+That being said, I propose we rename this to {{fake link|''Mario Discovery'' (series)}} and include ''Mario is Missing!'' and ''Mario's Time Machine'' in the article.
+'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
+'''Deadline:''' December 17, 2018, 23:59 GMT
+===Support===
+#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per my proposal.
+#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} Per Toadette the Achiever.
+#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} Per Toadette the Achiever.
+#{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per all.
+#{{User|bwburke94}} Per all, though I'm open to suggestions on what to call it.
+#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per all. Like bwburke94, it'd be interesting to see what others think of name suggestions.
+#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Now that there's a better (and official) name, per all.
+===Oppose===
+===Comments===
+Ehhhh I'm not really seeing why this should be renamed to "Mario". Maybe we can just lump the ones into Mario's Early Years? And about the above discussion, is "Mario Discovery Series" just not a viable name, or am I missing something? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:51, 3 December 2018 (EST)
+:It was never officially called ''Mario Discovery'', at lest according to what I dug up. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:06, 3 December 2018 (EST)
+::I couldn't find it on the copyright info on the backs of boxes of MIM or MTM. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:48, 3 December 2018 (EST)
+::: The "''Mario Discovery''" name is legit: look at the bottom right corner of the game box [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/u-UAAOSwFLBaYPfT/s-l1600.jpg here]. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 20:16, 11 December 2018 (EST)
+::::I somehow missed the label on the boxart image we have for ''Mario's Time Machine''. Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:04, 11 December 2018 (EST)
+What about ''Mario Teaches Typing'' and its sequel? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:10, 15 December 2018 (EST)
+== Identifier? ==
+Why does this article even have a series identifier? There's nothing else simply titled "Mario Discovery," and searching "Mario Discovery" with no identifier will take you to this page. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 16:23, November 3, 2020 (EST)
+:Per the second to last sentence of the first paragraph [[MarioWiki:Naming#Shared titles|here]], "''Game series articles always get a series identifier regardless of whether or not the title is shared, such as [[Mario Kart (series)]].''". [[Mario & Sonic (series)|''Mario & Sonic'' (series)]] would be another example of this. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 16:49, November 3, 2020 (EST)
+::Ah, thanks for clearing that up. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:14, November 3, 2020 (EST)
+::It seems like an arbitrary rule for the most part. I can understand the ''Mario Kart'' example as the term is often used to refer to any particular game in its series, so there need be something to distinguish the series itself for unfamiliar readers, but ''Mario & Sonic'', ''Mario & Luigi'' and ''Mario Discovery'' aren't as broad. Has there been a discussion prior to the rule being added to the guidelines? {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:34, November 3, 2020 (EST)