Talk:Wiggler

This article is part of PipeProject SMWikify, an attempt to Super Mario Wikify (for this article – Un-Wikipedia-fy) on the Super Mario Wiki. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the PipeProject SMWikify page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

Organization

Is it just me, or is this article highly unorganized? — Stooben Rooben 11:34, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Well it is a bit, but nothing that will take long to fix. --File:SAGAMARIO.JPGMario3v (talk)File:SAGAMARIO.JPG 11:40, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Actually, as far as sections go, this article is in line with the new article organization standard. Everything in the History section is listed by, first, major series, and then by games in the series or episodes, all according to release date. Remember, seperating "other media" into other sections is considered speculative and POV, so all appearances are arranged according to series and release date, just like the Mama Mario article. -- Son of Suns (talk)

I see. Well, in that case, the SMRPG section should be under the "Super Mario series" section, correct? — Stooben Rooben 12:19, 6 February 2009 (EST)

I always considered Super Mario RPG to be an "independent" title, as it does not follow the same gameplay mechanics as Super Mario Bros. and its adapted form in Super Mario 64. Basically, the Super Mario section is for platformers that emerged out of Super Mario Bros. Series are a combination of naming and gameplay, and Super Mario RPG clearly does not fit into the platforming gameplay of other "Super Mario" games. Does that make sense? -- Son of Suns (talk)

Uh oh. I think I lost the SMW2 section, creating some confusion. I'll have to add it back in. -- Son of Suns (talk)

Nevermind. There was no SMW2 section, so I moved the Super Mario RPG section before Yoshi's Story, as it should be. -- Son of Suns (talk)

Alright, I understand that perfectly. It was just that SMRPG has "Super Mario" in its title, so I figured that it belonged in that section. I can understand why it wouldn't though. Thanks for clearing things up. =) — Stooben Rooben 12:28, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Yeah. Do you think we should make a Super Mario (series) page? (The Mario (series) page would then, like it does now, cover all forms of the Mario franchise.) I would consider the main series to be Super Mario Bros., both versions of 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, Super Mario 64 (DS), Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Galaxy. This is somewhat based on the images FLUDD flashes at the beginning of Super Mario Sunshine, showing a link from SMB to SMW to SM64 to SMS, establishing all four are in the same continuity, and by extension that would include all the "Bros." games, and Super Mario Galaxy (as it acts like a sequel to 64 and Sunshine). Super Mario World 2 would also be included, but note that this game also acts as a "formal" beginning to the Yoshi series. What do you think? -- Son of Suns (talk) P.S. Mario Bros. would be considered an "ancestor" to the series, but also its own independent title, as the gameplay is radically different.

I would see no problem with making a page for those titles. But going by that theory, we would have to create a Super Mario Bros. (series) page, which would cover SMB, SMB:TLL, SMB2, SMB3, SMBDX, and NSMB. Technically the Super Mario series would be a sub-series of the Mario series; but in the same aspect, the Super Mario Bros. series, would be a sub-series of the Super Mario series. And in that same light, we may want to consider making such pages as Super Mario World (series) and Super Mario Land (series), as they would be technical sub-series of the Super Mario series as well. — Stooben Rooben 12:46, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Yeah that would all be fine. -- Son of Suns (talk)

Trivia

I don't think the Weedle trivia section is easy to understand, I didn't. Do any of you support me? Supermariofan14

Weedle and Wiggler don't share many similarities, so I suggest removing the piece of trivia. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

They do have some minor similarities, but it's a coincidence. Should I take it out? Supermariofan14

Split Sunshine Wiggler

The Wiggler from Super Mario Sunshine should have its own article in my opinion. It is given an individual name in original Japanese and also has unique traits. It is the only major Sunshine boss who is simply named like its species in English. If it was also given a different name in English, I bet it would have had a separate article from the start. --Grandy02 13:11, 27 January 2010 (EST)

Different name in English? Supermariofan14

He said IF it had a different name in english. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

The original intention of the developers counts as much as or even more than the English translation in my opinion. --Grandy02 09:48, 19 February 2010 (EST)

Boss Wiggler is here. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Male Wiggler

The wiggler in MPDS is a boy. It says in the desription for Wiggler's watering can:Everyone's told him to get a new one, but Wiigler plans to stick with this one a while longer.Mario Bros.!

Wiggler's symbol

In Mario Power Tennis, Wiggler's symbol appears to be a flower, whereas, in Mario Kart 7, it represents her head. Should we mention it in the trivia ? Fire-Luigi 19:19, 26 November 2011 (EST)