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===TheRaoul1992===
====TheRaoul1992====
When I edit a page, I know what I'm doing, if I changed this, it's because the game was released.
When I edit a page, I know what I'm doing, if I changed this, it's because the game was released.
===FanOfYoshi===
====FanOfYoshi====
This warning was undeserved, I respected the rules.
This warning was undeserved, I respected the rules.
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===Owencrazyboy9===
===Owencrazyboy9===
*[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Owencrazyboy9&oldid=2720612 The warning in question]
*[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Owencrazyboy9&oldid=2720612 The warning in question]


===Owencrazyboy9===
====Owencrazyboy9====
*OK, what the actual heck? I go ahead and let a user know about an incident that was going on for a few weeks now (concerning the Paper Mario bestiary page, if you were wondering) and all of a sudden, I get a random warning? Every other time I let users know about something (like reminding other users to use italics for game titles, correcting their mistakes or trying to get them to stop offences before they get in more trouble), I never '''ever''' received a Warning for it. And now I get punished because I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing? The Warning says I'm "supposedly" assuming bad faith. Not true. I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules. And apparently the "harsher consequences I have no means of enforcing?" Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders. And I had no idea that the edit in question that caused this whole thing contradicted the reversion I put upon it. I only realized it was a contradiction after I saved that edit and sent the user a reminder. People can and do make mistakes often, but there's no way this mistake I only realized after the edit reversion and user reminder is worth being punished for with a warning. In my honest opinion, I think the warning deserves to go, because I did nothing wrong in this case. What I did was try to let the user know about the incident on a talk page and imply that that user might get in trouble if this keeps up, only for me to then realized I botched it up because I had no idea what I was doing. There's no way this could have escalated into a warning only because I sometimes screw up when I'm doing something I'm supposed to be doing on an occasional basis.
*OK, what the actual heck? I go ahead and let a user know about an incident that was going on for a few weeks now (concerning the Paper Mario bestiary page, if you were wondering) and all of a sudden, I get a random warning? Every other time I let users know about something (like reminding other users to use italics for game titles, correcting their mistakes or trying to get them to stop offences before they get in more trouble), I never '''ever''' received a Warning for it. And now I get punished because I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing? The Warning says I'm "supposedly" assuming bad faith. Not true. I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules. And apparently the "harsher consequences I have no means of enforcing?" Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders. And I had no idea that the edit in question that caused this whole thing contradicted the reversion I put upon it. I only realized it was a contradiction after I saved that edit and sent the user a reminder. People can and do make mistakes often, but there's no way this mistake I only realized after the edit reversion and user reminder is worth being punished for with a warning. In my honest opinion, I think the warning deserves to go, because I did nothing wrong in this case. What I did was try to let the user know about the incident on a talk page and imply that that user might get in trouble if this keeps up, only for me to then realized I botched it up because I had no idea what I was doing. There's no way this could have escalated into a warning only because I sometimes screw up when I'm doing something I'm supposed to be doing on an occasional basis.


===Lord Grammaticus===
====Lord Grammaticus====
*The thing about that is, as your talk page shows, you've been told before about unnecessary tones and attitudes towards other editors multiple times before, especially if it involves them undoing or altering your edits in some manner. And I'd just talked to you before about hanging the threat of a block over someone's head when it's not even clear they were necessarily doing something blockworthy to begin with.
*The thing about that is, as your talk page shows, you've been told before about unnecessary tones and attitudes towards other editors multiple times before, especially if it involves them undoing or altering your edits in some manner. And I'd just talked to you before about hanging the threat of a block over someone's head when it's not even clear they were necessarily doing something blockworthy to begin with.
:"I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules." ...while curiously neglecting to mention the rule in question. "Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders." Yes, I left that out, because I felt those would have been ''unwarranted''.  
:"I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules." ...while curiously neglecting to mention the rule in question. "Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders." Yes, I left that out, because I felt those would have been ''unwarranted''.  

Revision as of 13:26, July 21, 2019

This page is an appeal system for reminders, warnings, and last warnings. If you feel you have wrongly received a reminder or a warning, follow the instructions below to appeal the reminder/warning to the administrators. Please keep discussions civil.

Archived appeals can be found here.

This page observes the no-signature policy.

Notes

If you feel that you have been wrongfully given a reminder and/or warning, you can have your case heard here. Please read through the "How-to" and the "Rules" carefully. Please note that both the users appealing the reminder/warning and the users who issued the reminder/warning are given a chance to present the administrators with reasons to rule in their favor. However, said comments can only be edited once; this will not expand into lengthy, back-and-forth arguments such as the ones found in proposal comments and talk page discussions.

Rules

  1. No case can be heard more than once. Once a decision is made, that decision is final.
  2. If the reminder or warning you issued is overturned, do not re-add it, or it will be removed immediately, and you may be reprimanded yourself if the administrators feel it is necessary.

How-to

This is an example of what your appeal should look like; improperly formatted appeals will be deleted. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following template and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the "[subject]" variables (including the squared brackets) with information to customize your proposal.

===[Your username here]===
*[Insert link to reminder/warning from your talk page]
====[Your username here]====
*[Insert your comments on why the reminder/warning was unnecessary]
====[The issuer of the warning's username here]====
*[Insert your comments on why the reminder/warning was necessary (this section is for the issuer only)]
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Important: After posting your appeal, make sure that you use {{AppealNotice}} to inform the issuer that his or her warning/reminder is under dispute.

Cases

TheRaoul1992

TheRaoul1992

When I edit a page, I know what I'm doing, if I changed this, it's because the game was released.

FanOfYoshi

This warning was undeserved, I respected the rules.


Owencrazyboy9

Owencrazyboy9

  • OK, what the actual heck? I go ahead and let a user know about an incident that was going on for a few weeks now (concerning the Paper Mario bestiary page, if you were wondering) and all of a sudden, I get a random warning? Every other time I let users know about something (like reminding other users to use italics for game titles, correcting their mistakes or trying to get them to stop offences before they get in more trouble), I never ever received a Warning for it. And now I get punished because I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing? The Warning says I'm "supposedly" assuming bad faith. Not true. I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules. And apparently the "harsher consequences I have no means of enforcing?" Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders. And I had no idea that the edit in question that caused this whole thing contradicted the reversion I put upon it. I only realized it was a contradiction after I saved that edit and sent the user a reminder. People can and do make mistakes often, but there's no way this mistake I only realized after the edit reversion and user reminder is worth being punished for with a warning. In my honest opinion, I think the warning deserves to go, because I did nothing wrong in this case. What I did was try to let the user know about the incident on a talk page and imply that that user might get in trouble if this keeps up, only for me to then realized I botched it up because I had no idea what I was doing. There's no way this could have escalated into a warning only because I sometimes screw up when I'm doing something I'm supposed to be doing on an occasional basis.

Lord Grammaticus

  • The thing about that is, as your talk page shows, you've been told before about unnecessary tones and attitudes towards other editors multiple times before, especially if it involves them undoing or altering your edits in some manner. And I'd just talked to you before about hanging the threat of a block over someone's head when it's not even clear they were necessarily doing something blockworthy to begin with.
"I'm just telling them about there being consequences if they don't follow the rules." ...while curiously neglecting to mention the rule in question. "Well, I was implying the administrators who "can" enact harsher consequences, but you completely neglected to mention that the general user "can" give other users warnings, last warnings and/or reminders." Yes, I left that out, because I felt those would have been unwarranted.
My entire thing is, even if I take you at face value, the closest rule RickTommy's edit could've come close to breaking is edit warring, and that's a strong maybe on the matter. And assuming that IS the case, why not discuss it with them on the article's talk page or their own talk page, rather than leaving a message insinuating that your spelling is the only possible spelling, and that attempting to posit otherwise would result in "harsher consequences"? It's that "my way or the highway" tone in particular - which, AGAIN, I noticed you have been told about multiple times previously - that, in my opinion, prompted and warranted the warning.