Talk:Purple Coin Ball
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This is a conjecturally named alternative to Star Ball. As pointed out in a revision, Star Ball's Japanese name is "tamakoro," which offhand I'm pretty sure just means "rolling ball." There doesn't really seem to be any point keeping this split. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:06, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- They do have slightly different functions, but even that's comparable to differently colored variations of certain enemies. I'd be fine with a merge.
(T|C) 12:25, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- I may be the one who reverted when it was turned to a redirect (the reason being because it should have a consensus first), but actually I would agree with merging.
Nightwicked Bowser 
12:44, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- It's a variant of an entity with a clear distinction of appearance and function (or at least how to break the thing is different). It's like green shell vs red shell in galaxy for instance, or green star vs power star. I think it should get its own page.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 13:00, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- Breaking it is the same? You just get it to the hole. The only difference is what comes out. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:10, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- Apologies for not raising a proposal first, I did not think this would be controversial because the article is small, rarely touched, rarely mentioned across the wiki, and the name is conjectural. My impression is that the object (Star Ball) as understood in Japanese is not tied to what it contains. It is called Tamakoro in both Galaxy games, which basically just means "rolling ball" and has nothing to do with Power Stars or Purple Coins. It is conceptually tied to its mechanical rolling function, which is the same between the variants. The impression I have is that a meaningful difference was projected onto this purple variant just because the object at large are called Star Balls in the English localization of SMG2, and that was confusing for a ball that holds a Purple Coin. It was not for any attestable reasons. - Nintendo101 (talk) 13:36, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- I misread and misremembered. Yeah the method of breaking is the same so we're left with appearance of the container. I still think it's better off split for holding a purple coin, looking noticeably different, and my dislike for redirecting something like this under "Star Ball". It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 13:28, February 18, 2024 (EST)
- I misread and misremembered. Yeah the method of breaking is the same so we're left with appearance of the container. I still think it's better off split for holding a purple coin, looking noticeably different, and my dislike for redirecting something like this under "Star Ball".
- Apologies for not raising a proposal first, I did not think this would be controversial because the article is small, rarely touched, rarely mentioned across the wiki, and the name is conjectural. My impression is that the object (Star Ball) as understood in Japanese is not tied to what it contains. It is called Tamakoro in both Galaxy games, which basically just means "rolling ball" and has nothing to do with Power Stars or Purple Coins. It is conceptually tied to its mechanical rolling function, which is the same between the variants. The impression I have is that a meaningful difference was projected onto this purple variant just because the object at large are called Star Balls in the English localization of SMG2, and that was confusing for a ball that holds a Purple Coin. It was not for any attestable reasons. - Nintendo101 (talk) 13:36, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- Breaking it is the same? You just get it to the hole. The only difference is what comes out. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:10, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- It's a variant of an entity with a clear distinction of appearance and function (or at least how to break the thing is different). It's like green shell vs red shell in galaxy for instance, or green star vs power star. I think it should get its own page.
- I may be the one who reverted when it was turned to a redirect (the reason being because it should have a consensus first), but actually I would agree with merging.
