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==I was wondering...== | |||
I was wondering, should Bob-Ombs be considered robots? Also what about [[Bullet Bills]]? -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | I was wondering, should Bob-Ombs be considered robots? Also what about [[Bullet Bills]]? -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | ||
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None of them do, unless one of the Mario Party's I'm forgetting does [[User:Harryg|Harryg]] ([[User talk:Harryg|talk]]) 16:27, 1 April 2013 (EDT) | None of them do, unless one of the Mario Party's I'm forgetting does [[User:Harryg|Harryg]] ([[User talk:Harryg|talk]]) 16:27, 1 April 2013 (EDT) | ||
Nothing does. [[User:Goombob|Goombob]] [[File:NewMicroGoomba.png]] 11:00, 12 July 2013 (EDT) | Nothing does. [[User:Goombob|Goombob]] [[File:NewMicroGoomba.png]] 11:00, 12 July 2013 (EDT) | ||
:Yes, a minigame in new super mario bros features a red, blue, yellow, or green bob-omb trying to not explode, you play as it dodging fireballs, lava, and a gray bowser statue. Toadbrigade5(Apologies for not loging in) | |||
== I'm Confused..., == | |||
In the enemy box it says that they first appeared in [[Super Mario Bros. 3]] but in the article, it says that they first appeared in [[Super Mario Bros. 2]]. {{unsigned|YoshiAwsumness}} | |||
== Quote change == | |||
I noticed the current quote is referring to the [[Bob-omb Buddy]] in ''SMG2'' rather than a regular Bob-omb. Is there a quote we can change it to that is more relevant? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:59, 8 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
:The wording still applies to a normal Bob-omb. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:17, 29 January 2018 (EST) | |||
==Quote== | |||
Can the quote be changed to {{quote|Nobody's life should be all work, right? I need free time to make my mark in the world. BOOM!|Bob-omb|Paper Mario}} | |||
? While this doesn't say that much about them, the current one says nothing. At least this one has the explosion theme, but the current one is just Bob-ombs calling for help. --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 14:11, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:I agree that this is probably a more appropriate quote, but just to clarify, is this said by a random Bob-omb or the partner (aka Bobby)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:58, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::This is from the first PM... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:14, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::You're right, my mistake. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:45, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::::It's said by a Bob-omb in the room where Bombette was trapped by the Koopa Bros. (the same room you recruit her). So, can I change it? --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 18:11, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::::I think it's more suitable than the current one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:56, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::::::Ok, I'll do it --[[User:Magma.|Magma.]] ([[User talk:Magma.|talk]]) 19:18, July 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
While the current quote isn't too bad, I have an idea for a good quote for the top of the page: {{quote2|We do our jobs, and when we're done, there's always another Bob-omb there to take our place. All any of us can hope for is to make an impact.|Bob-omb|Paper Mario: The Origami King}}. <br>This comes from one of the Bob-ombs boarding Bowser's airship, and I think this quote describes the general role of Bob-ombs quite well. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 12:09, June 3, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::There's nothing really inherent in their design that indicates that they do it for fun like the other quote suggests, so I'd be for it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:54, December 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::I think this is better than the current one, personally. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:34, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
::::I would support changing it to this quote as well, as I feel it does a better job of acting as a general description of Bob-ombs that the current quote. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 20:44, January 17, 2022 (EST) | |||
With the Super Mario RPG remake out, an even better quote has come along: "Watch out. I'm gonna explode. It'll hurt." - their Thought Peek quote (which in the original game was "Ouch! Hey, watch it!"){{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:40, November 22, 2023 (EST) | |||
:Eh, I still think the TOK one is better. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:07, November 22, 2023 (EST) | |||
::I like the brevity of the Super Mario RPG one. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:57, November 23, 2023 (EST) | |||
==Split SMB2 version from the rest of the page?== | |||
As listed on the page, the Japanese version of the Bob-omb from Super Mario Bros. 2 is called "Bobu" in Japan, differentiating it from "Bomuhei", the name used for the enemy ever since. From what I've found, the two are treated as completely separate enemies in Japan, and it seems like the English name for the SMB2 enemy was used to refer to the SMB3 enemy as well, and it stuck. Would that justify splitting the SMB2 enemy into a page like "Bob-omb (Super Mario Bros. 2)" or something? | |||
Apparently there's something in the Japanese manual for Mario 3 that makes note of the connection between the two enemies, but otherwise, they're treated as totally separate entities despite the similarities. Pretty much everything else I've found indicates that "Bob-ombs" as we know them are treated as first appearing in Mario 3 in Japanese sources, apparently the Smash Bros. Melee trophy listing them as having first appeared in Mario 2 was also altered in localization and lists Super Mario World as their first appearance instead in Japan. I'm on the fence about whether splitting them would be a good idea, as I think there's a pretty solid case for both sides, but I wanted to know what other people think. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 01:09, December 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
:[[User talk:LinkTheLefty/Archive 7#Japanese Bob-omb|Doc]] and [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick/Archive 3#Re:Japanese Bob-omb|I]] discussed this, and I think we agree that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' info essentially killed that idea. At the time of its initial release, ''Super Mario USA'' would not be released in Japan for years. The Japanese manual clearly alludes to the enemy being from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' in the untranslated third sentence, which was understandably simplified in the English version with the same name previously used in the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across. Outside of the ''Mario'' rebrand, both appearances are fairly identical, especially with the keyless ones exploding on their own after several seconds. Note that ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' seems to be a little more shy than ''Super Mario World'' would later be about borrowing ''Doki Doki Panic'' elements, as Lava Lotus also seems to be based on Panser. Additionally, even though several source books generally have a few minor issues, [[User talk:Mister Wu/30th Anniversary Books Related Questions/Archive 1#Super Mario Pia|we know of at least one that also considers them one and the same]]. ''Super Smash Bros.'' series trophies were never strictly about listing the debut in Japanese, by the way, but rather listing whichever appearances were deemed notable, which is why there are perceived errors in the English version (''Melee'' for example stripped it down to one, giving the wrong impression). Consider also that it wasn't until ''for Wii U'' that any trophies acknowledged ''Doki Doki Panic'', and Nintendo has a (frankly outdated) way of segregating game chronology by region instead of worldwide overall, so believing that the Japanese (''Mario'') debut was ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is technically correct by some standards. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:17, December 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
::Fair enough, I was pretty unsure which way to go for this one due to the presence of that manual tidbit. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 18:29, December 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Uhhhh...What? == | |||
Look at 1.1.14. It says "Super Mario Maker SUBSERIES". Why does it say that, when we don't split Super Mario (series) into subseries? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:35, March 26, 2024 (CST) | |||