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== Congrats on 10 Archives! ==
== Congrats on 10 Archives! ==
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== Sections ==
== Sections ==
 
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I wanted to ask something else. Is there any rule about condensing sections? I'll go over a bit of my experiences and questions below:
I wanted to ask something else. Is there any rule about condensing sections? I'll go over a bit of my experiences and questions below:


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== Luigi in the Mario lookalikes category ==
== Luigi in the Mario lookalikes category ==
 
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It was pretty much agreed upon in my proposal that Luigi, Wario and Waluigi shouldn't include the respective lookalikes categories, so I would like to remove it from Luigi's article again. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:21, January 3, 2024 (EST)
It was pretty much agreed upon in my proposal that Luigi, Wario and Waluigi shouldn't include the respective lookalikes categories, so I would like to remove it from Luigi's article again. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:21, January 3, 2024 (EST)
:I'd claim that Luigi would technically qualify in the proposal's provisions,[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/64#Rework_the_.22lookalikes.22_categories] that the categories should concern "[...]solely on subjects that are actual copies or clones of these characters such as Dark Bowser or Dreamy Mario." Luigi started out as a clone, albeit a named clone, but from a gameplay perspective, a clone for multiplayer. I'm reviewing what's currently in [[:Category:Mario lookalikes]]. He could be in a similar vein as [[Prince Mushroomkhamen]], where both are, for all intents and purposes, a kind of Mario, but were given names to distinguish themselves. Same goes for [[Giuseppe]], who isn't a cloned/copied Mario and doesn't even exactly look like Mario, just a resemblance to Jumpman. The proposal seems currently in effect, but if not I think you either remove some of these different characters that "happen" to look like Mario, limit them to just direct copies and clones such as Shadow Mario, Cosmic Mario, Metal Mario, and Dreamy Mario, or you include Luigi. It's otherwise not entirely clear to me why Giuseppe but not Luigi, but perhaps there's a good reason. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:39, January 3, 2024 (EST)
:I'd claim that Luigi would technically qualify in the proposal's provisions,[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/64#Rework_the_.22lookalikes.22_categories] that the categories should concern "[...]solely on subjects that are actual copies or clones of these characters such as Dark Bowser or Dreamy Mario." Luigi started out as a clone, albeit a named clone, but from a gameplay perspective, a clone for multiplayer. I'm reviewing what's currently in [[:Category:Mario lookalikes]]. He could be in a similar vein as [[Prince Mushroomkhamen]], where both are, for all intents and purposes, a kind of Mario, but were given names to distinguish themselves. Same goes for [[Giuseppe]], who isn't a cloned/copied Mario and doesn't even exactly look like Mario, just a resemblance to Jumpman. The proposal seems currently in effect, but if not I think you either remove some of these different characters that "happen" to look like Mario, limit them to just direct copies and clones such as Shadow Mario, Cosmic Mario, Metal Mario, and Dreamy Mario, or you include Luigi. It's otherwise not entirely clear to me why Giuseppe but not Luigi, but perhaps there's a good reason. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:39, January 3, 2024 (EST)
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::Someone thought my proposal was a joke, which hurt my feelings a bit. I do wish I had executed it better on the first post, since it was brainstorming aloud with digression and trying to make connections that weren't necessarily there. Now it's, as you said, "soliciting opinion" from others (including myself) as to the film's mainline status. The film was so successful, I thought it was reasonable and not a joke to assume it could be going into mainline of the ''Super Mario'' franchise. I wouldn't be opposed to if that had become the case, so that it can help ''Super Mario'' have more fans than just people who play video games, but I want to assure the proposal wasn't created as a joke. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:22, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
::Someone thought my proposal was a joke, which hurt my feelings a bit. I do wish I had executed it better on the first post, since it was brainstorming aloud with digression and trying to make connections that weren't necessarily there. Now it's, as you said, "soliciting opinion" from others (including myself) as to the film's mainline status. The film was so successful, I thought it was reasonable and not a joke to assume it could be going into mainline of the ''Super Mario'' franchise. I wouldn't be opposed to if that had become the case, so that it can help ''Super Mario'' have more fans than just people who play video games, but I want to assure the proposal wasn't created as a joke. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:22, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:::You probably need to hash it out with Hewer that the question was a bit disrespectful. In my opinion, if you do think your ideas aren't very strong enough for a proposal, it might help to create a talk page discussion first on the appropriate page. {{User:Mario/sig}}
:::You probably need to hash it out with Hewer that the question was a bit disrespectful. In my opinion, if you do think your ideas aren't very strong enough for a proposal, it might help to create a talk page discussion first on the appropriate page. {{User:Mario/sig}}
== main page ==
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Since you're an admin here, I was wondering what your thoughts are on [[Talk:Main Page#Redesign main page?|this idea]]. It's a discussion that I started about updating the main page design, and I cited a few things that I felt could use with improvement (such as how the List of references article, is grouped with wiki pages). Since this would be such a big decision, I wondered if at least one staff member could weigh in and give comment. One user expressed interest and another wasn't opposed but seemed otherwise neutral. All of us agree the main page design in my sandbox isn't finalized and just a preliminary version that I'm presenting to others. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 13:04, May 15, 2024 (EDT)
==Appeal attempt==
===[Big Super Mario Fan]===
*[https://www.mariowiki.com/User_talk:Big_Super_Mario_Fan]
====[Big Super Mario Fan]====
*[This final warning was completely unnecessary. Because the games where all listet from oldest to newest already. I just put them in one section. This has nothing to do with a proposal.]
[[User:Big Super Mario Fan|Big Super Mario Fan]] ([[User talk:Big Super Mario Fan|talk]]) 02:05, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
:You will need to format your appeal in [[MarioWiki:Appeals]]. {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:42, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
::Ok. [[User:Big Super Mario Fan|Big Super Mario Fan]] ([[User talk:Big Super Mario Fan|talk]]) 19:09, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
== was my proposal clear? ==
I made a proposal some minutes ago about standardizing the use of History in the ''Super Mario'' franchise on articles meeting certain criteria. I don't think there's anything in the rules against formatting the headings as such, so when I say "standardize, it's referring to "if someone changes it, their edit has to be undone."
The [[Dinosaur]] article had the "History in the ''Super Mario'' franchise" heading undone. The way I handle the situation is that it stays reverted unless the proposal passes, otherwise a dispute could form. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:43, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
:You should gauge from the amount of engagement your proposal is getting. I'm not entirely sure why the proposal was made, and I don't think the amount of options makes it particularly clear what's exactly going to happen. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:33, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
::Did [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&curid=28535&diff=4215038&oldid=4215014 this] make it more clear? [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 13:03, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:::Unfortunately, no. Your proposal in general is vague (I don't understand what the issue is and I still am not sure what the proposal is trying to accomplish) and seems too similar to an earlier proposal regarding organizing those history subsections in the article? There are too many options in your proposal too which often overwhelms people. At least, this is why I'm not really voting on there. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:42, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
::::Okay, I've made some changes, including to the description. I streamlined the proposal to a simple support or oppose, if that helps. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:00, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
== gamecube ==
A user began a discussion on my [[User talk:Super Mario RPG#GameCube Edits|talk page]] over a file that I questioned the applicability of to this wiki, since it's a lot more about Nintendo than ''Super Mario''. It's the [[Nintendo GameCube]] menu screen. From what I know, the Nintendo articles are supposed to provide better focus on ''Super Mario''. The menu screen is generic and doesn't show anything related explicitly to ''Super Mario'', while some sub-menus like the game start up or Memory card could be a better case, since those depict icons of ''Super Mario'' games.
I think the GameCube menu screenshot is basically about as relevant as the Memory Card article, which had to have a talk page proposal to split it up into separate pages since it wasn't relevant enough for a page on its own. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 23:11, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
:I've been away for a while. Did something major change while I was gone? I also checked a recent proposal that permitted removal of non-Mario content for [[Super Smash Bros. (series)]]. I've argued that for years we '''shouldn't''' cover it. I was just late to the party. Heh. Depending on case, I am on-board supporting removing non-Mario content. Before that, I just gave up trying to argue it. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 23:15, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
== New BJAODN categories ==
Hello again! Fellow user Arend has created three new categories for BJAODN: [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Files and galleries|Files and galleries]], [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/List articles|List articles]], and [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Vehicles|Vehicles]]. Could you please add these three to the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|main BJAODN page]]? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:48, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
:Okey dokey. Please tell me I didn't fudge it up this time. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:44, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
::"Lists" should be "List articles" to match the title of the page proper (unless we want to rename that instead). That's the only mistake, though. Thanks once again! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 21:38, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
:::I thought "lists" would benefit from brevity but if "list article" is much clearer, then we can use that. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:49, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
::::Mm-hm. We can always discuss a rename another day. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 21:51, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
:::::[[MarioWiki talk:BJAODN/Lists|By "another day", apparently I mean tomorrow afternoon.]] '''EDIT:''' Arend went through with the rename, so you or Porplebot will have to update the piped link anyways. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:29, May 21, 2024 (EDT)