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Should we change this article to '''The Great Gonzales Jr?'''. It's an official name. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) 19:03, 3 November 2006 (EST)
Should we change this article to '''The Great Gonzales Jr?'''. It's an official name. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]]<tt>&middot;</tt></small>) 19:03, 3 November 2006 (EST)


I think that would be a good idea. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]
I think that would be a good idea. -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]


I agree. [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 19:10, 3 November 2006 (EST)
I agree. [[File:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[File:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 19:10, 3 November 2006 (EST)


Just make a redirect for it. Don't change the name! [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]
Just make a redirect for it. Don't change the name! [[User:3dejong|3dejong]]
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Nintendo's website's Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door page[http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=3640b1f1-82f7-4c42-8aea-d8299816f8c4] refers to him as "ornery mini-Yoshi". Could "mini-Yoshi" be his name? They sorta say it like it's an official name, but the fact that "mini" isn't capitalized gives me a few doubts... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 09:59, 6 January 2007 (EST)
Nintendo's website's Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door page[http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=3640b1f1-82f7-4c42-8aea-d8299816f8c4] refers to him as "ornery mini-Yoshi". Could "mini-Yoshi" be his name? They sorta say it like it's an official name, but the fact that "mini" isn't capitalized gives me a few doubts... --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 09:59, 6 January 2007 (EST)


Nope, not official. The game itself is more official-and the game never calls him any other name than the name you give him OR just Yoshi (or Gonzales Jr.). [[Image:Mayor.gif]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>
Nope, not official. The game itself is more official-and the game never calls him any other name than the name you give him OR just Yoshi (or Gonzales Jr.). [[Image:MayorPenguinPM.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>


:The Japanese name for him is Chibi Yoshi (no joke!). {{user:Bentendo/sig}} - how ye like meh sig?
:The Japanese name for him is Chibi Yoshi (no joke!). {{user:Bentendo/sig}} - how ye like meh sig?
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I got one...maybe the article every time it says '''Yoshi Kid''' it will be replaced with <nowiki> {{'''User:Yourname/Yoshi Kid'''}} </nowiki> which contains the name you gave your Yoshi Kid.
I got one...maybe the article every time it says '''Yoshi Kid''' it will be replaced with <nowiki> {{'''User:Yourname/Yoshi Kid'''}} </nowiki> which contains the name you gave your Yoshi Kid.


People who don't have the game or haven't made that template, will see just '''Yoshi Kid'''. Possible? [[Image:Mayor.gif]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>
People who don't have the game or haven't made that template, will see just '''Yoshi Kid'''. Possible? [[Image:MayorPenguinPM.png]]<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>


:Maybe the last sentence is not possible but... {{User:Paper Jorge/sig|Wanting his idea to work.}}
:Maybe the last sentence is not possible but... {{User:Paper Jorge/sig|Wanting his idea to work.}}
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:Um, thats just what the player named the Yoshi, makes nothing really official. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
:Um, thats just what the player named the Yoshi, makes nothing really official. {{User:Xzelion/Signature}}
::Well, "the player" ''was'' a Nintendo representative. [[User:General Guy|General Guy]] 14:56, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
::Well, "the player" ''was'' a Nintendo representative. [[User:General Guy|General Guy]] 14:56, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
I agree with Xzelion/Signature, it is really just up to the player what he is named.  I think he should be just called Baby Yoshi for name purposes until we get an answer out of Nintendo of what he is supposed to be called. - Mr. L {{unsigned|202.151.73.10}}


What X said, and you can't skip naming it, so that means it's just Yoshi (Kid) {{User:Lario/sig}}
What X said, and you can't skip naming it, so that means it's just Yoshi (Kid) {{User:Lario/sig}}
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Yeah I would prefer traditional things so I would like a GREEN yoshi kid. I played the game on my emulator and tried to "speedrun" that section within 6 mins, and ... finally got a RED yoshi. My emulation was slow enough, and I played the game as quickly as I could (but not like pros). So I'm asking if there's any way to beat that part in 6 mins (I mean, 6min*60s*60fps=21600 frames, not real 6 minutes, otherwise the game would have given me a random yoshi which is not necessarily green or red)?? [[user:670839245]] ([[user talk:670839245|local talk]] | [[wikia:w:c:zh.community:user talk:user670839245|leave personal message here]] | [[special:block/670839245|block locally]])17:17, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
Yeah I would prefer traditional things so I would like a GREEN yoshi kid. I played the game on my emulator and tried to "speedrun" that section within 6 mins, and ... finally got a RED yoshi. My emulation was slow enough, and I played the game as quickly as I could (but not like pros). So I'm asking if there's any way to beat that part in 6 mins (I mean, 6min*60s*60fps=21600 frames, not real 6 minutes, otherwise the game would have given me a random yoshi which is not necessarily green or red)?? [[user:670839245]] ([[user talk:670839245|local talk]] | [[wikia:w:c:zh.community:user talk:user670839245|leave personal message here]] | [[special:block/670839245|block locally]])17:17, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
I had no idea you could get another color that's not green in that game.  It was a nice surprise for me when he hatched and it turned out he was red!  In my next time playing through I'll test those theories on how to get a green one.  - Mr.L


== Mini-Yoshi ==
== Mini-Yoshi ==


His smash trophy is called '''Mini-Yoshi.''' Should the name be changed to that since it's an official source? --{{User:Fawfulfan64/sig}} 19:10, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
His smash trophy is called '''Mini-Yoshi.''' Should the name be changed to that since it's an official source? --{{User:Fawfulfan64/sig}} 19:10, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
== In the Italian version of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Yoshi is indeed a Baby Yoshi ==
I just noticed that the Italian version of Wonky's tale about the Yoshi's colors reveals much more than the English version. You can see the actual text here:<br />
{{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 1.png|Part 1}}, {{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 2.png|Part 2}}, {{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 3.png|Part 3}}, {{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 4.png|Part 4}}, {{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 5.png|Part 5}}, {{media link|PMTTYD Italian Yoshi Explanation 6.png|Part 6}}<br />
Here is a translation:
''In the far far south, in a remote little island, the Yoshis live.''<br />
''As you surely know, MiniYoshis are Yoshis just hatched from the eggs.''<br />
''It seems that based on the conditions when hatching, the MiniYoshi's color changes.''<br />
''To know what his color will be, you have to wait until he hatches from the egg.''<br />
''By the way, the color of your party's MiniYoshi is beautiful indeed!''<br />
''For sure when he grows up he will be a magnificent Yoshi!''
We can see two interesting aspects:
# MiniYoshis are clearly distinguished from Yoshis in that they are just hatched from the eggs,
# The Yoshi in Mario's party is clearly a MiniYoshi, not just a regular Yoshi,
Since ''MiniYoshi'' is a translation for ''Chibiyosshī'', which is the same name for Baby Yoshis used in ''Super Mario World'', it's clear that in the Italian version of ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' Yoshi is a Baby Yoshi.
Now, it would be interesting to know, since the Italian version contains an explicit description of what a Baby Yoshi is, while the Japanese version even uses the same name from Super Mario World, if this different version of Wonky's tale stems directly from the Japanese version, or is just an addition made in the Italian version.<br />
What do you think? Can someone help in this?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:25, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
== Move to Mini-Yoshi? ==
That's his trophy name in SSB4.  With this game being three years old, is there a reason we haven't moved it? -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 19:35, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:Well, in the Italian localization of ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', which is what I played, ''Miniyoshi'' has always been his name, and his Japanese name was always that of [[Baby Yoshi]]s rather than adult [[Yoshi (species)|Yoshi]]s, so I'm not opposed to moving it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:01, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::Probably the same reason [[Tucks]] hasn't been moved to Tuck. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:03, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:::Maybe the same reason for [[Stars (enemy)]] as well. (I even asked Mario jc about that.) {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:06, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::::Tucks' figurine says "Tucks," trophy says "Tuck," and the guide uses "Tucks" as singular and plural. This wiki uses "Tuckses" as the plural, which seems to be speculation.[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:12, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:::::I think this time there is a bit more juice to the claim made by SSB4, since the German and Italian localizations and the Japanese name indicate that Mini-Yoshi is not likely to be a typo.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:17, 20 November 2017 (EST)
::::::Should I go ahead and move it now? -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 21:32, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Go ahead, sure why not [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:57, 20 November 2017 (EST)
The Players Guide for TT-YD calls the character "Mini-Yoshi." ''When you get back to the locker room, you'll find that a Mini-Yoshi has hatched from the egg''. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 19:20, July 9, 2021 (EDT)
:Thanks, good to know what was the source for the name of the trophy, although at the time the guide wouldn't have had priority over the in-game name. With a more recent game using the ''Mini-Yoshi'' term renaming the page required less discussions, as it was simply a matter of applying the policy instead of making an exception to it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:04, July 9, 2021 (EDT)
== Remake name change ==
As confirmed by a recent [https://x.com/Stealth40k/status/1778952074090131561 survey] that Nintendo has been sending out related to the remake, his official name seems to be "Yoshi Kid". I think his name should be changed to that once the remake releases. {{User|ReeceeYT}} 03:57, April 13, 2024 (EDT)
: He's also been referred to as simply "Yoshi" in other [https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1781035046343721234 marketing] [https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/1779796832878555256 material] for the remake, so that seems to be the more commonly used name? It is bizarre though that "Yoshi Kid" was used in the survey. We'll have to see what happens by the time the remake releases, I guess. [[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 23:14, April 21, 2024 (EDT)