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== Cosmic Mario == | == Cosmic Mario == | ||
Has it ever been confirmed that Cosmic Mario/Luigi are actually Cosmic Clones and not just similar concepts? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:24, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Good question. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:53, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been confirmed. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 13:09, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::Given how the only real similarity is "dark-colored Mario doppelgänger that has an evil laugh," they're really no more similar than Shadow Mario is to either of them. Also, the naming connection is a translation thing, so that's out too. Ultimately, it seems like "connecting dots that aren't really there" to me, particularly since the Cosmic Spirit is in SMG2 and follows the basic design rules of Cosmic Mario/Luigi. Additionally, while they do share several voice clips, many of those are also shared with Shadow Mario iirc and are mostly just heavily-distorted and pitched-up Mario clips. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:22, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::::It's drawing lines where none exist. It's better to remove a direct statement and just point out the similarities. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:02, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::::Since there doesn't seem to be any real connection between them, I've gone ahead and removed the statements that Cosmic Mario and Luigi are Cosmic Clones. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:24, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::::::It sort of is, going by internal names. The Cosmic Clones from ''Super Mario 3D Land'' are internally named <tt>GhostPlayer</tt>, with Big Cosmic Clone being <tt>GhostPlayerBig</tt> and Mummy-Mes from ''Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker'' also being <tt>GhostPlayer</tt>, so they are related from a conceptual standpoint; in contrast, Cosmic Mario from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and Mario's Cosmic Clones from ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' share the same model, <tt>MarioShadow</tt>, and for Cosmic Luigi/Clone, <tt>LuigiShadow</tt>. Clearly, the concept has a developmental evolution from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' to ''Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker'', so I think it is okay to suggest that Cosmic Mario has a connection to Cosmic Clone. If anything, I'd suggest considering a derived split for the ''Super Mario 3D Land'' Cosmic Clone because that one is based on Small Mario and has a separate name in ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', 「ちびマネック」 (''Chibi Manekku'', Small Cosmic Clone). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:04, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
Two things. One Doc von Schmeltwick you are incorrect. Supper Mario Broth slowed down Cosmic Mario's voice clips and revealed that Cosmic Mario actually has his own separate voice actor from Mario (so it appears) and two I agree with Link The Lefty. I agree that the two types of Cosmic Clones are different enough to warrant a split. [[User:I'manumber1|I'manumber1]] ([[User talk:I'manumber1|talk]]) 15:42, November 7, 2021 (EST) | |||
:I don't agree with splitting the Galaxy 2 and 3D Land Cosmic Clones because they still function the same (chasing Mario and mimicing his actions), sound the same and look the same. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 15:48, November 7, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Uncited Name == | |||
Does anyone have any idea where the term "Shadow Clone" comes from as denoted in the beginning of the article? There is no source listed for it. | |||
[[User:HarryGCollections|HarryGCollections]] ([[User talk:HarryGCollections|talk]]) 06:11, June 9, 2020 (EDT) | |||