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When colors differ between optimized and non-optimized images, it is, from my understanding, <s>usually</s> (often; it depends on how the image was exported, correct me if I'm wrong) the optimized result that contains the intended colors. The original images, when exported without unchecking certain options, sometimes contain gamma-correction metadata to determine the image's brightness; however, browsers often don't display this data properly as it is intended for editing. See {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}'s comment on my talk page, {{User|RAP}}'s [[User:RAP/PNG|FAQ]] for previous discussions on the topic, and [https://hsivonen.fi/png-gamma/ this article] for more details. Compare the color of Luigi's clothing with the other images of Luigi from NSLU. While in some cases the gamma correction is needed, this particular image ([[:File:Luigi | When colors differ between optimized and non-optimized images, it is, from my understanding, <s>usually</s> (often; it depends on how the image was exported, correct me if I'm wrong) the optimized result that contains the intended colors. The original images, when exported without unchecking certain options, sometimes contain gamma-correction metadata to determine the image's brightness; however, browsers often don't display this data properly as it is intended for editing. See {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}'s comment on my talk page, {{User|RAP}}'s [[User:RAP/PNG|FAQ]] for previous discussions on the topic, and [https://hsivonen.fi/png-gamma/ this article] for more details. Compare the color of Luigi's clothing with the other images of Luigi from NSLU. While in some cases the gamma correction is needed, this particular image ([[:File:NSMBU Luigi Jumping Artwork.png]]) seems it could be accurate without it. Edit: After looking at more images, I understand that it is much more complicated than I originally thought (gamma makes some images accurate and others inaccurate), see my comment on [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] for more details. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 23:26, February 15, 2020 (EST) | ||
::I entirely agree that images typically look better without the gamma correction involved however both Steve and several other administerative staff have affirmed that we are not to optimize it just because it's more accurate to the actual display of the source. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:12, February 16, 2020 (EST) | ::I entirely agree that images typically look better without the gamma correction involved however both Steve and several other administerative staff have affirmed that we are not to optimize it just because it's more accurate to the actual display of the source. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:12, February 16, 2020 (EST) | ||
:::Gotcha, that's understandable. I have found a way to optimize images without removing this particular iCCP metadata, therefore preserving colors. I tested it on [[:File:NSMBDS Goomba Artwork.png]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 12:47, February 16, 2020 (EST) | :::Gotcha, that's understandable. I have found a way to optimize images without removing this particular iCCP metadata, therefore preserving colors. I tested it on [[:File:NSMBDS Goomba Artwork.png]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 12:47, February 16, 2020 (EST) | ||
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Well, I'm screwed. I don't know how to see image files on an Intel Asus. It says something about tools in the tab bar, but I don't see it anywhere. So I need your help with uploading an image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 on the game's page. Even if I could upload images, so much stuff for those Capcom Mario games is in Japanese, which I can't read. I know the staff told me not to tell others to do stuff for me when I can do it myself, but I can't see image files on my laptop. So I need someone to help me. We also have lack of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom by itself on the page. The only image we seem to have of the machine is the flyer, so I don't know if there's one somewhere in an image category: page or if we need to add an image of that game, too. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:06, March 2, 2020 (EST) | Well, I'm screwed. I don't know how to see image files on an Intel Asus. It says something about tools in the tab bar, but I don't see it anywhere. So I need your help with uploading an image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 on the game's page. Even if I could upload images, so much stuff for those Capcom Mario games is in Japanese, which I can't read. I know the staff told me not to tell others to do stuff for me when I can do it myself, but I can't see image files on my laptop. So I need someone to help me. We also have lack of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom by itself on the page. The only image we seem to have of the machine is the flyer, so I don't know if there's one somewhere in an image category: page or if we need to add an image of that game, too. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:06, March 2, 2020 (EST) | ||
::Where are images not displaying properly? Additionally, could you explain what browser and operating system you are using? I might be able to help you upload images from a source if you could link them, but I don't know where to look for Banana Kingdom. If you think a page should have more images, feel free to add {{tem|more images}} to the top of the page (with the brackets). [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 11:11, March 2, 2020 (EST) | ::Where are images not displaying properly? Additionally, could you explain what browser and operating system you are using? I might be able to help you upload images from a source if you could link them, but I don't know where to look for Banana Kingdom. If you think a page should have more images, feel free to add {{tem|more images}} to the top of the page (with the brackets). [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 11:11, March 2, 2020 (EST) | ||
I did. I don't know what operating system I'm using, but the only search engine I use is Google and the only social media I'm on is YouTube. I've found stuff on Twitter, but I don't regularly go there. I don't know where to look for images of those games. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 18:22, March 2, 2020 (EST) | |||
::Do you have the actual image on your computer and just don't know how to upload it? I can help you with that. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 18:33, March 2, 2020 (EST) | |||
No, I don't. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:53, March 3, 2020 (EST) | |||
::So what exactly are you asking for? I'm somewhat confused. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 12:22, March 3, 2020 (EST) | |||
I'm asking for Google to help me out. Maybe you could help upload a few images of some arcade games and put them on their respective pages. Just a few. There's an image of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom that we cover, but it's a flyer image. We can keep that, but we need an image of the machine by itself and luckily, I found it on Google. Unfortunately, the only descent image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 I could find on Google is a flyer, but we need that image too. The last image is for Super Mario World (arcade). It is an image of the inside of the machine and it should go in the gallery. It can be found in the Mario boards if you search arcade coverage. It will be the Fabtek post posted by borp. There's a link to it on the Super Mario Wiki page Super Mario World (arcade). [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 13:49, March 4, 2020 (EST) | |||
::I'm just gonna pretend like you [[User talk:Lord Falafel#Edit Flooding|haven't been told what I'm about to say before]] now by the big [[User:Mario jc|JC]] but what you're doing is asking for me to do the work for you, which come across as more lazy than it does in need of actual help. If you actually have an image saved (which I think you do for the Banana Kingdom) or maybe, if in small quantity, sourced in a link I would be more than happy to show you how '''you''' can upload that image, but my job isn't to do the work for you. Furthermore, pretending as though you weren't trying to skirmish away from effort, there are several additional hindering factors, such as (not limited to): I avoid the mario boards like I would avoid toxic waste or mayonaise. I also don't think borp would be too thrilled about me jacking his stuff either based on our frequent disagreements, but you are more than welcome to save the image and I can walk through how to upload the image. Secondarily, unless I can rip it from an actual nintendo site, I really don't enjoy uploading images if I can't track the original source of the image, because point 3--I don't really upload new images. I only mess with things ''we already have''. I would suggest you try talking with Results May Vary or Mario jc about finding new images to upload. Point four, I use Bing. Thought you'd want to know. | |||
::I appreciate what you're trying to do in having full coverage, but it's not appropriate to try and get other people to cover that coverage for you. Nothing is stopping you from making that coverage besides your own lack of effort. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 19:44, March 4, 2020 (EST) | |||
Did you read my top comment? And I don't have any images saved except for one unrelated image. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 00:29, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
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Well, I'm screwed. I don't know how to see image files on an Intel Asus. | |||
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So I need your help with uploading an image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 on the game's page. Even if I could upload images, so much stuff for those Capcom Mario games is in Japanese, which I can't read. | |||
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::What makes you think that I can read Japanese? I can barely speak ''english'' half the time. Even then, you don't necessarily need to be able to read japanese in order to upload an image, it would just be harder to write a summary for. You furthermore do not explain where this image is hosted until later where you just say | |||
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Unfortunately, the only descent image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 I could find on Google is a flyer, but we need that image too. | |||
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::Google has billions of images on it and almost none of them can actually be effectively sourced. It may be more beneficial to try and look at the game's website or special gaming websites that have official art (like IGN) on them. | |||
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I know the staff told me not to tell others to do stuff for me when I can do it myself, but I can't see image files on my laptop. | |||
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::I'm no tech whiz but my senses are telling me that you're either lying or you turned off javascript or something. | |||
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We also have lack of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom by itself on the page. The only image we seem to have of the machine is the flyer, so I don't know if there's one somewhere in an image category: page or if we need to add an image of that game, too. | |||
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::The change here was confusing but alright. After looking at [[Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom|the page in question]], there's not much else I can say that isn't already there. Personally, for such a small scale game, I think five pictures (promo 4 logo 1) is probably fine in all honesty. | |||
::So yeah, I read it. It's just difficult to make sense of it. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 07:29, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
:A weasel to the last edit. Good riddance. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 12:14, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
::Took long enough. [[User:MikhailMCraft|MikhailMCraft]] ([[User_talk:MikhailMCraft|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MikhailMCraft|contribs]]) 12:43, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
::::Y'all were a bit mean to the guy. Granted, I did not like the actions he was taking, but that's no reason to be rude about it. You're more than welcome to hold those opinions ''to yourselves'' or in closed conversations, but not here. Please do not '''ever''' leave those types of messages on my pages again. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 12:54, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
:::::Backing Trig up on that. There's no need to be discourteous, regardless of how you feel about someone. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:59, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
::::::I deeply apologize for my behavior just then - I did ''not'' think before I typed that one up. [[User:MikhailMCraft|MikhailMCraft]] ([[User_talk:MikhailMCraft|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MikhailMCraft|contribs]]) 13:04, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
::::::Yeah, after a bit of thought that was uncalled for. My apologies, Trig, we shouldn't make you a host to drama. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 13:08, March 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Broken file links == | |||
<s>After you're done for the day, I strongly suggest you check [[:Category:Articles with broken file links]] next time to make sure you haven't missed anything. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:56, March 16, 2020 (EDT)</s> | |||
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How did you guys know that he was part of a radical hate community? Which one is it? {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | |||
:The details of this are best kept within the wiki staff. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:20, November 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
::Oh. No wonder. This “community” is a very bad place, isn’t it? {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | |||