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==== Support ====
==== Support ====
#{{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}} Considering how new this version of 3D World is, the article is already of extremely good quality, with long but still easy to understand descriptions of the story, reception, vast amount of differences from the Wii U/original version of 3D World, and Bowser's Fury itself, and good quality images around all of the article so that it is more immersive, with certainly no red links. All of the new areas and features of Bowser's Fury have blue links with a really impressive image. This should definitely be featured as especially considering the game came out less than three months ago (while writing this) it is detailed and long yet still favoring quality over quantity with a visually standout quality of images, and all blue links.
#{{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}} Considering how new this version of 3D World is, the article is already of extremely good quality, with long but still easy to understand descriptions of the story, reception, vast amount of differences from the Wii U/original version of 3D World, and Bowser's Fury itself, and good quality images around all of the article so that it is more immersive, with certainly no red links. All of the new areas and features of Bowser's Fury have blue links with a really impressive image. This should definitely be featured as especially considering the game came out less than three months ago (while writing this) it is detailed and long yet still favoring quality over quantity with a visually standout quality of images, and all blue links.
#{{User|Giga Cat Weegee}} I, Giga Cat Weegee, declare that this article is given a star to show that it is is a featured one. Reason why? It's a really good article that accurately explains pretty much everything on the ''Bowser's Fury'' mode of ''Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury''.
#{{User|Giga Cat Weegee}} I, Giga Cat Weegee, declare that this article is given a star to show that it is is a featured one. Reason why? It's a really good article that accurately explains pretty much everything on the ''Bowser's Fury'' mode of ''Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury''. Edit:The article has been improved thanks to it's recent heavy updates, so now that it looks like it does really contain everything, I suppose is was wrong at first. So now the article definitely does deserve to be featured.
#{{User|0blivion}} As someone who has worked on this article extensively since the game came out, I am confident it meets the high standard of quality shared by featured articles. If there's anything else that needs to be addressed on it, please let me know. Otherwise, per the others.
#{{User|0blivion}} As someone who has worked on this article extensively since the game came out, I am confident it meets the high standard of quality shared by featured articles. If there's anything else that needs to be addressed on it, please let me know. Otherwise, per the others.
<del>#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} This is an article on a game remake done right.</del><br>
#{{User|The Mansion}} See any comments below.
<s>#{{User|The Mansion}} The best has been done.</s>
#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} This is an article on a game remake done right.
#{{User|Scrooge200}} Everything looks good now.
#{{User|Ray Trace}} Amazing article, now I think it's ready to be featured.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} This is a high quality article that I believe deserves to be featured.


==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
#{{User|The Mansion}} Opposing for now, until some of the mentioned suggestions are addressed or added. For me, the bosses section can be refurbished a bit more.
<s>#{{User|Scrooge200}} Opposing until my suggestions are addressed.</s>
#{{User|Scrooge200}} Opposing until my suggestions are addressed.
<del>#{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per all.</del>
#{{User|Keyblade Master}} Didn't notice the amount of spelling and grammar mistakes there are at first.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Currently, there are some issues with this article that have been brought up in the comments, though I would be willing to support if they are addressed.


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:::::I've addressed both the boss table and that bullet point list of suggestions you made. Personally, in other articles I've referred to each of ''3D World'' and ''Bowser's Fury'' as "campaigns", which I can change any contrasting terminology in the main article to fit with. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 16:19, May 5, 2021 (EDT)
:::::I've addressed both the boss table and that bullet point list of suggestions you made. Personally, in other articles I've referred to each of ''3D World'' and ''Bowser's Fury'' as "campaigns", which I can change any contrasting terminology in the main article to fit with. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 16:19, May 5, 2021 (EDT)
::::::For consistancy I think the returning enemies should be put in a table rather than a gallery section as well. I'll work on that myself, and I'll include the locations these enemies are found in. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:47, May 5, 2021 (EDT)
::::::For consistancy I think the returning enemies should be put in a table rather than a gallery section as well. I'll work on that myself, and I'll include the locations these enemies are found in. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:47, May 5, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::Done a table for the returning enemies. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 17:56, May 5, 2021 (EDT)
:Changed to paragraph form on character movement visual effects, with the one thing being it should go to more detail on “Cat Mario has a new swipe movement” {{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}} 19:08, May 5, 2021 (EST)
:Is there anything other than the Changes section of the article that needs to be addressed? I'm waiting for that section to be finished before proofreading and editing it. I believe everything else has been finished. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 11:25, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
::I'm going to change the sections of the change section (lol) soon but I have a final test in my college class so I can't do much right now. {{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}}, 16:29, May 6, 2021, (EST)
I think some of the levelbox images should be higher quality, because they're at weirdly small resolutions. For example, [[:File:Marioriskywhiskerisland.png]] is 1022 × 573. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 19:25, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
:I'll take full-resolution images of all thirteen locations in Snapshot Mode and replace them. Should they be with or without a white border? That appears on every Snapshot Mode photo. I can remove it manually, or just keep it when I upload the images. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 20:13, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
::You could probably crop the borders out. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 20:36, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
I've been trying to put bullet points in the locations lists for the enemies, although when I previewed it the bullet points don't seem to work. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 18:30, May 8, 2021 (EDT)
:I do know how to fix that, but currently I really don't think the descriptions for all the cat variations are necessary, because a) almost every enemy is identical to their ''Super Mario 3D World'' version and b) mentioning that every enemy has cat features in their sections is very redundant, in my opinion. [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] ([[User talk:0blivion|talk]]) 22:56, May 8, 2021 (EDT)
::Yeah, they all seemed very repetitive, I went and removed them. The top of the section even mentions so already. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 06:29, May 9, 2021 (EDT)
With all of the new things added and the beginning being prose this looks much more FA quality. The only question is whether most people here want the bullet point sections at the end to be prose too? {{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}} 18:37, May 24, 2021
:I was going to wait until the [[MarioWiki:Proposals|proposal]] about the Changes section to be done, but it looks like everyone has chosen the "Use a mixture of prose and bullet points" option. I probably should have phrased that choice better, however, because now I'm unsure if it means "use prose introductions coupled with bullet points" or "use prose, bullets, or a hybrid model on a per-article basis". Would it be better to have a discussion exclusively about the Changes section on this article? If there's not really support for incorporating bullet points, then I'm fine with just keeping it as is, though. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 19:59, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
:We can leave that section as-is. Based on every other section and the large re-work the article has received in the last month, I don't see a reason for these Oppose votes to still stay up. If something else needs to be addressed, let me know and I'll work on it. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 21:56, June 1, 2021 (EDT)
::Per 0blivion, any reasons for opposes still remaining need to be stated by users who opposed. {{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}}, 9:44, June 5, 2021 EST
I am removing my opposing vote as my issue with the boss section has been addressed. However, I would like a bit more consistency with the tables. If we're going to use tables with golden headings - which has been in place since before the game came out - this should be used for all of the tables, IMO, for the new playable characters, new power-up, controls, and Action Guide sections. Then I'll support this article for featured. {{User:The Mansion/sig}} 09:52, June 5, 2021 (EDT)
:All of the tables you mentioned now look identical to the other tables on the article. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 12:11, June 5, 2021 (EDT)
::In that case, you've earned my support. Outstanding job. Just keep an eye on the article for a while, and check for spelling and grammar errors in the meantime, just in case. {{User:The Mansion/sig}} 12:50, June 5, 2021 (EDT)
Okay, since a lot of this has been fixed up, I'll do one last check before supporting:
*"which enable them" -- Which will enable them? Which enables them?
*The Action Guide section should note which actions are restricted to certain power-ups.
*"additional players play as" -- I don't like this wording, maybe "additional players control"?
*"Rows of coins appear slightly more quickly than in the original game." I don't get this. What causes the coins to appear?
*"Another minor touch is that the final Green Star in a Captain Toad's Adventures course is collected as a small Toad, who does the victory pose with their mouth opened instead of closed." This doesn't really make sense, "as a small Toad." I assume it means that if the player is in small form while collecting the Green Star, their victory pose changes?
*"a portal that Mario falls into" -- Should this be "a portal that Mario falls through"?
*"receiving 15 fireballs" -- Not a fan of this wording, maybe "getting hit by 15 fireballs"?
*"He reappears again" -- Redundant, should just be "he reappears".
*The Invincibility Bell is listed twice with the same description.
*"can send Fury Bowser back in his slumber" -- Correct this to "back into his slumber."
*"and start timed challenges when contacted that reward" -- This sounds kinda weird, rewrite this sentence.
I'll finish the rest of this later, but here it is to start. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 23:05, June 10, 2021 (EDT)
:I've addressed everything on this list already, but was waiting if you had anything more to mention. If you do, please say so. I'd also like to request Keyblade Master and WeirdDave13 to remove their Oppose votes unless they have additional issues. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 14:34, June 14, 2021 (EDT)
::You can additionally vote to remove their opposes if you like. I'll help you with the admin required part. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 15:10, June 14, 2021 (EDT)
:::So I finished looking over the article, and I think it's fine. I'll vote support now. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 20:33, June 14, 2021 (EDT)
:::@Ray Trace how can you help with the Admin Required part since there are four removal of oppose votes for Archivist Toadette on Super Mario Land’s featuring with two patrollers including you but no admin? {{User|TasteTheFiresOfHelp}}, 12:49, June 22, 2021 (EST)
This needs to be move to N1, since it passed it was added to the FA nomination page but will not look good there until changed to an N1. 12:49, June 22, 2021 (EST)
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