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|nominated=13:22, February 6, 2017
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==== Support ====
==== Support ====
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#{{user|Goomba nr.34}}
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#{{user|PinkYoshiFan}} - The Personality section and the listing of games seem nice and well done.
#{{user|supermariowahoo}} I learnt a lot about Luigi's history from this page, the writers did a really good job!
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#{{user|GashomyWiki}} - This article looks very well.


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#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Lacking substantial amount of information and contains many questionable statements. See comments for full complaint.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} Lacking substantial amount of information and contains many questionable statements. See comments for full complaint.
#{{User|A51 Trooper}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|A51 Trooper}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|The Koopa Bro.}} Per All


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==== Removal of opposes ====
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@{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} That was just an example not to be taken ''literally'' because I don't want to sort through history sections to find out exactly where to put it. What I'm trying to say here is that other media needs to be ordered chronologically despite that they appear in alternate media. [[MarioWiki:Chronology|That is MarioWiki's policy]] and this article violates that by splicing the sections into the latter areas of the article. You're wrong about Mario Sports Superstars, we separate Mario Baseball, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, and Mario Sports Mix. Mario Sports Superstars is not connected to any of those former sports, so it should be on the bottom with its own category. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:22, 6 February 2017 (EST)
@{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} That was just an example not to be taken ''literally'' because I don't want to sort through history sections to find out exactly where to put it. What I'm trying to say here is that other media needs to be ordered chronologically despite that they appear in alternate media. [[MarioWiki:Chronology|That is MarioWiki's policy]] and this article violates that by splicing the sections into the latter areas of the article. You're wrong about Mario Sports Superstars, we separate Mario Baseball, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, and Mario Sports Mix. Mario Sports Superstars is not connected to any of those former sports, so it should be on the bottom with its own category. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:22, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:@any voters: Seriously, go reread MarioWiki policy pages before you happily impulsively vote to remove my vote, because what you're voting for obviously violates it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:25, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:@any voters: Seriously, go reread MarioWiki policy pages before you happily impulsively vote to remove my vote, because what you're voting for obviously violates it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:25, 6 February 2017 (EST)
@{{User|Baby Luigi}} Well, you don't have the right to tell me what to do. I will impulsively vote if I want to impulsively vote.{{User:TheFlyingBowser/sig}}
:You're foolish. You do realize your vote means '''nothing''' as long as oppose votes are still up and they will be up. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:35, 13 February 2017 (EST)
:I tried to put the games in chronologically, first by when the series was created (e.g. ''Smash Bros.'' comes before ''[[Paper Mario]]'') and then sort the games of that series. However, there are some games that don't fit into a sub-series, like ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''. The cartoons are a different case, though. Originally, I was going to group them under an "Animation" header, but was soon told not to do so. And I don't know when each of the animations were released. However, ''Mario Sports Superstars'' IS a sports game, it's just its own sports title.{{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:27, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:I tried to put the games in chronologically, first by when the series was created (e.g. ''Smash Bros.'' comes before ''[[Paper Mario]]'') and then sort the games of that series. However, there are some games that don't fit into a sub-series, like ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''. The cartoons are a different case, though. Originally, I was going to group them under an "Animation" header, but was soon told not to do so. And I don't know when each of the animations were released. However, ''Mario Sports Superstars'' IS a sports game, it's just its own sports title.{{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:27, 6 February 2017 (EST)
::Look at how [[Mario]] organizes his nonvideo game media appearances, then go look back at Luigi's article. It's integrated nicely within his history instead of Luigi splitting it off. I was the one who told you not to treat nonvideogame media as separate appearances.
::Look at how [[Mario]] organizes his nonvideo game media appearances, then go look back at Luigi's article. It's integrated nicely within his history instead of Luigi splitting it off. I was the one who told you not to treat nonvideogame media as separate appearances.
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*''[[Super Mario Bros. & Friends: When I Grow Up]]''
*''[[Super Mario Bros. & Friends: When I Grow Up]]''
*''[[Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally]]''
*''[[Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally]]''
*''[[Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition]]''
*<s>''[[Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition]]''</s>
*''[[Wrecking Crew '98]]''
*''[[Wrecking Crew '98]]''
*''[[White Knuckle Scorin']]''
*''[[White Knuckle Scorin']]''
*''[[Nintendo Adventure Books]]''
*''[[Nintendo Adventure Books]]''


*''[[SSX on Tour]]''
*<s>''[[SSX on Tour]]''</s>
*''[[NBA Street V3]]''
*<s>''[[NBA Street V3]]''</s>
*''[[Super Mario-Kun]]'' (optional due to limited means of obtaining, much less understanding its content)
*''[[Super Mario-Kun]]'' (optional due to limited means of obtaining, much less understanding its content)
*''[[Super Mario no Shōbōtai]]'' (optional due to extreme obscurity, but documented in full in this wiki)
*''[[Super Mario no Shōbōtai]]'' (optional due to extreme obscurity, but documented in full in this wiki)
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False or questionable statements
False or questionable statements
*"His first appearance was in NES Open Tournament Golf. In the game, Luigi wore green striped overalls and hat along with a blue shirt with white stars imprinted on it. This is the only game to show Luigi with this outfit." <br>Wrong. It is ''[[Family Computer Golf: Japan Course]]'' came first, then ''[[Family Computer Golf: U.S. Course]]'' and THEN NES Open Tournament. Luigi also wore the 'Murica outfit in ''Family Computer Golf: U.S. Course''.
*<s>"His first appearance was in NES Open Tournament Golf. In the game, Luigi wore green striped overalls and hat along with a blue shirt with white stars imprinted on it. This is the only game to show Luigi with this outfit." <br>Wrong. It is ''[[Family Computer Golf: Japan Course]]'' came first, then ''[[Family Computer Golf: U.S. Course]]'' and THEN NES Open Tournament. Luigi also wore the 'Murica outfit in ''Family Computer Golf: U.S. Course''.</s>
*"The Super Mario Adventures comic serial's depiction of Luigi, oddly, features him in an opposite portrayal to his personality in the games and cartoons."<br> Arguably false since Luigi is a coward in ''Super Mario Adventures'' and is prone to goofing off. Not unlike the games and cartoons. This is contradicted later in the article "Luigi is portrayed as timid and a bit of a coward, which was first shown in Super Mario Adventures."
*<s>"The Super Mario Adventures comic serial's depiction of Luigi, oddly, features him in an opposite portrayal to his personality in the games and cartoons."<br> Arguably false since Luigi is a coward in ''Super Mario Adventures'' and is prone to goofing off. Not unlike the games and cartoons. This is contradicted later in the article "Luigi is portrayed as timid and a bit of a coward, which was first shown in Super Mario Adventures."</s>
*"Luigi has also been known to cross-dress several times. The first time was in Super Mario Adventures, second in Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga and third was (implied) in Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door." <br>Misleading, as Luigi has cross-dressed countless times in Super Mario-Kun, and there may be other undocumented cross-dressings.
*<s>"Luigi has also been known to cross-dress several times. The first time was in Super Mario Adventures, second in Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga and third was (implied) in Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door." <br>Misleading, as Luigi has cross-dressed countless times in Super Mario-Kun, and there may be other undocumented cross-dressings.</s>
*"Super Mario Adventures downplays his cowardice altogether, instead portraying him as rash and willing to make choices without putting much thought into them. His main characteristic here is greed. However, his greed is not for money as it was in the anime, but for food; when the brothers came across a haunted house, Luigi was drawn in immediately by the smell of cheese." <br>False for the claim about "downplaying cowardice" and the "rash" decisions could be considered a component of Luigi's clumsiness. The last point is misleading as ''both'' brothers are hungry but Luigi has a weaker will to resist, not because he's greedy.
*<s>"Super Mario Adventures downplays his cowardice altogether, instead portraying him as rash and willing to make choices without putting much thought into them. His main characteristic here is greed. However, his greed is not for money as it was in the anime, but for food; when the brothers came across a haunted house, Luigi was drawn in immediately by the smell of cheese." <br>False for the claim about "downplaying cowardice" and the "rash" decisions could be considered a component of Luigi's clumsiness. The last point is misleading as ''both'' brothers are hungry but Luigi has a weaker will to resist, not because he's greedy.</s>
*"In Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, the Star Gate (which supposedly knows all) passes Luigi as 'unworthy' to enter. This most likely has something to do with Luigi's 'dark secret from his past,' which it also mentions; Luigi did something either embarrassing or foolish which he has kept a secret ever since. However, in a interview with a member of staff, he stated Luigi had no dark secret, and it was actually a reference to Luigi's constantly living in the shadow of his brother. He also added: 'Why make Luigi into a bad guy? We have Waluigi for that instead!'"<br> Source?
*"In Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, the Star Gate (which supposedly knows all) passes Luigi as 'unworthy' to enter. This most likely has something to do with Luigi's 'dark secret from his past,' which it also mentions; Luigi did something either embarrassing or foolish which he has kept a secret ever since. However, in a interview with a member of staff, he stated Luigi had no dark secret, and it was actually a reference to Luigi's constantly living in the shadow of his brother. He also added: 'Why make Luigi into a bad guy? We have Waluigi for that instead!'"<br> Source?


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{{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:54, 6 February 2017 (EST)
{{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:54, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:Okay, so, essentially, I just rewrote what was already there. This article needs a MAJOR overhaul, and I see that now. Thanks for the advice, and I'll begin working on the article when I can, however, I don't know ''everything'', so I may not be able to get all the information this article needs.... {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:03, 7 February 2017 (EST)
:Okay, so, essentially, I just rewrote what was already there. This article needs a MAJOR overhaul, and I see that now. Thanks for the advice, and I'll begin working on the article when I can, however, I don't know ''everything'', so I may not be able to get all the information this article needs.... {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:03, 7 February 2017 (EST)
Alright, I rearranged the games using [[MarioWiki:Chronology]] and using [[Mario]]'s page as a basis. There is still a lot of missing information and some needs to be fixed, but I think I took care of the major problem. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:38, 15 February 2017 (EST)