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==Dear Lord (no offense to atheists :P)==
==Dear Lord (no offense to atheists :P)==
This article pretty much sucks and its like one of the main articles around here a group of pipe projecters need to get together and redo this or something...{{user:theused/sig}}
This article pretty much sucks and its like one of the main articles around here a group of pipe projecters need to get together and redo this or something...{{user:theused/sig}}
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Its not that they weren't allowed to be in the article, its just that this article needs some major updating.{{User:Knife/sig}} 17:56, 15 January 2008 (EST)
Its not that they weren't allowed to be in the article, its just that this article needs some major updating.{{User:Knife/sig}} 17:56, 15 January 2008 (EST)
==Possibility of a shooter?==
Please no! It would ruin the good Mario feeling! [[User:MarioMop]]
:[[Yoshi's Safari]] is a Mario shooter, released as early as 1993. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:03, 15 February 2008 (EST)
That's different. I meant a first-person 1 with lots of blood and gore.  [[User:MarioMop]]


==Beta SMG==
==Beta SMG==
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==DK==
==DK==
{{talk}}
Does anyone mind if I move the Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. games into the [[Donkey Kong (series)]] article, since the two games aren't really Mario games? I just want to make sure it's fine before I remove all that stuff. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
Does anyone mind if I move the Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. games into the [[Donkey Kong (series)]] article, since the two games aren't really Mario games? I just want to make sure it's fine before I remove all that stuff. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}


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:Now that you mention it, E. Gadd probably should be in there. He has had more game appearances and roles than Rosalina, and she is in the list. Also, remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which automatically produces your signature. I had to add the unsigned template for you. [[User:ThirdMarioBro|ThirdMarioBro:]] [[User talk:ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:red">Mario,</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:green">Luigi,</span>]] <span style="color:blue">and me!</span> 22:20, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:Now that you mention it, E. Gadd probably should be in there. He has had more game appearances and roles than Rosalina, and she is in the list. Also, remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which automatically produces your signature. I had to add the unsigned template for you. [[User:ThirdMarioBro|ThirdMarioBro:]] [[User talk:ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:red">Mario,</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:green">Luigi,</span>]] <span style="color:blue">and me!</span> 22:20, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::Added him in the other day {{User|Commander Code-8/sig}} 4:10, 8 May 2012
::While he is a major character in several games, he isn't really a protagonist. He's never been playable, and he mostly helps the heroes. {{User:Humbug/sig}}
::For the sake of this wiki, I'm sure that if they're a good guy, they're a protagonist. I mean, he's not an antagonist by opposing the protagonists, and he isn't neutral because he doesn't mean to help the villains. Pauline has never been playable, and she's only been the damsel-in-distress in all of them. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] 21:06, 8 May 2012 (EDT)


== Mario Spin-off Series ==
== Mario Spin-off Series ==
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:Oh, and that thing you posted about it can't be just Mario the Juggler is a game for Game and Watch is something I would put! And P.S. I'm removing the templates.[[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L  Beware my fury!]] 22:59, 30 January 2012 (EST)
:Oh, and that thing you posted about it can't be just Mario the Juggler is a game for Game and Watch is something I would put! And P.S. I'm removing the templates.[[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L  Beware my fury!]] 22:59, 30 January 2012 (EST)
:Calm down. I won't erase the templates. There. Ya happy, 'cuz I ain't. Yer lucky I didn't delete 'em to save this article though, but since I'm a nice kinda guy... visit my talk page. Please. I need traffic! Some pages are busy, but mine, oh no, I only get visitors if I do something wrong. I appologize, though. See ya![[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you!]] 23:13, 30 January 2012 (EST)
:Calm down. I won't erase the templates. There. Ya happy, 'cuz I ain't. Yer lucky I didn't delete 'em to save this article though, but since I'm a nice kinda guy... visit my talk page. Please. I need traffic! Some pages are busy, but mine, oh no, I only get visitors if I do something wrong. I appologize, though. See ya![[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you!]] 23:13, 30 January 2012 (EST)
::Even if you did erase the rewrite template i would just put them back on {{User|Raven Effect}}
:But then other people who want this article to be a FA will get mad because they will see the templates off and be all happy and then they would see that you put them back on and will just delete them and then an edit war will start. Oh, and you're the only one that wants the Game and Watch system with all of the games with it to be put on, nobody else cares, they just want the templates removed so it can be a FA. And the first template isn't needed. We could just move the construction template to the top as the article needs work done on it, including rewriting and expanding, so the first template's requests would be included and it would not need to be there.[[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you!]] 19:16, 31 January 2012 (EST)
::Having extensive coverage of the article's subject is central to any Featured Article nomination. Removing the templates that were put there for perfectly valid reasons doesn't change the fact that the article has problems: instead, it just pushes the problems out of sight where fewer people see it. {{User:Bop1996/sig}}
:I know, but the problem can't be solved because we need the article to be expanded to include information that no one that comes to this article knows about. Why does no one add the Game and Watch section to this article so it can finally be the FA we have waited so long for? WHY?![[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you!]] 19:27, 31 January 2012 (EST)
::Because no one with the knowledge and capabilities of improving the article in that manner has done so yet. {{User:Bop1996/sig}}
:Well, then, can you, brave patroller? Isn't it your job, nay, ''responsibility'', to help users in a time of need? Can't you add the information to the article? And if you can't, can you request help from a user who can? Please, Bop1996, you're my last hope. No, you're the article's last hope, the only one that can prevent it from being rejected from being a FA, thus making you this ''wiki's'' last hope! It needs this page (as the information around here almost always is about the Mario series) to be a FA and represent the wiki! It needs someone like you to help before it falls to its ultimate end. Please help! Thank you, Bop1996! But this information belongs on this wiki![[User:M&amp;L|M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you!]] 19:52, 31 January 2012 (EST)
:I agree with M&L. Just because it doesn't have every little detail of the game doesn't mean it cant be an FA. Its 63 pages!--[[User:Toadshroom|Toadshroom]] 23:05, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Hey do me a favor and actually read the requirements and article has to meet to be a FA {{User|Raven Effect}}
==I have an idea!==
I searched around Mario Wiki and I didn't see what I was thinking of, A article on all Power-Up's in the Mario series!If there is one, I need to search more!but if there isn't, I would like create a page with all power-Up's & see if other's can help! [[File:Petey Pirahna Ground Idle.gif]] [[User:Peteyking64|Peteyking]] [[File:KingBooMKW.png]]
[[List of Power-Ups]].
{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}
Thank's! Iv'e been looking all over to find this!{{unsigned|Peteyking64}}
==Addition of other main characters / species / items==
Soon, after many things reprising their roles in the new ''Mario'' games in 2011, 2012 and next year, soon it'll be time to add a few more main characters and items after the release of ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' and ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]''. I think characters like [[Gooper Blooper]], [[Metal Mario (character)|Metal Mario]] and the [[Star Coin]] deserve to be among the main characters and items.
And we don't care if we use miscellaneous or game arts in this article. It's because they look great.--[[User:Prince Ludwig|Prince Ludwig]] ([[User talk:Prince Ludwig|talk]]) 23:16, 4 November 2012 (EST)
:Also [[Spike (enemy)|Spike]] and [[Swooper]] (but don't use ''Galaxy'' artwork, I'd prefer to see the ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' sprite). --[[Special:Contributions/94.101.50.230|94.101.50.230]]
::Yeah, but recently, I've noticed the addition of minor characters in the article. And I don't know who did it for sure yet. And Spikes and Swoopers can be added in the article's species section.--[[User:Prince Ludwig|Prince Ludwig]] ([[User talk:Prince Ludwig|talk]]) 18:53, 17 December 2012 (EST)
== Cancelled Games ==
I noticed that a lot of the games [[List of cancelled games and vaporware|here]] are not listed [[Mario (series)#Cancelled Games and Tech Demos|here]]. We should add them, right ? I'm just asking, because I don't want to do things I shouldn't do. {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:06, 24 December 2012 (EST)
:We really need one of those [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold "be bold"] page.
(that's yes). --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 16:10, 24 December 2012 (EST)
::Ok, I will do it when I have time :) Thanks ! {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:22, 26 December 2012 (EST)
:By Luck, I was just about to do that.. but I'll leave that for you and check another thing.. Let's Click [Alt + X]!--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 10:54, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
==Fawful==
Shouldn't Fawful be in the antagonists section? [[User:Rpg gamer|RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!!]] ([[User talk:Rpg gamer|talk]]) 07:59, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
:Maybe, but the only thing those sections cover is from the non-RPG games, so if you're going to add Fawful, you might as well add other major recurring RPG characters. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:11, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
::Aren't most rpg characters like one and done style characters because besides fawful and the shroobs I can't think of a singe other reoccurring RPG villain. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
:::Hm, me neither. And it doesn't make any sense that only mainstream Mario games are thoroughly covered here. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:17, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
::::I don't think it was intentionally set up like that it's just that there aren't very many reoccurring villains in rpg games so nobody ever added them (personally i'm not even sure if Fawful should be on the list or not). {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
== The Podoboo picture needs improvement ==
Don't you think the Podoboo pic is too pixelated? Someone please post a new one [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 11:21, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
:There aren't many big single Lava Bubble (Podoboo) artwork, but it's possible to get a model of it and upload it.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 20:00, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
== Some characters and species are missing ==
I think Biddybuds , Para-Biddybuds, and Peepas should be in the species section. And what about Boom Boom and Pom Pom? [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 12:01, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
:They have not appeared in enough games to be significant enough, considering they are generic enemies. I'm not sure about the other two though. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:49, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
== Metal Mario? Seriously? ==
Sorry I keep posting too much. But Metal Mario hasn't been in many games. Why is he on the list? And I think that Fire Snakes should be on the list. I'll add Fire Snakes, but I should get permission to remove Metal Mario. [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 11:05, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
== Nabbit? ==
Should we add Nabbit to the antagonist list even though he only has two games his popularity is growing rapidly and he even has a plush form.
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:Likely not. No other sidescrolling games have been released since NSMBU and he hasn't appeared since NSLU so it can't be for certain if this will be a trend or if he is just confined to technically NSMBU. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:56, 14 February 2014 (EST)
== Boom Boom ==
I think Boom Boom should really be added to the bad guy list as he has appeared in lots of games. [[User:DolphinYoshi/sig]]
== Mario Franchise ==
I don't understand why this page is labelled "Mario Series" when it describes a franchise. The side-scrolling Mario games, Mario Kart, the Mario RPGs, etc. are each clearly different series, even though they share many characters. Aside from the fact that the games are drastically different, they use different numbering systems (the 7 in Mario Kart 7 does not count any games other than Mario Kart games). Changing this would also solve a lot of the problem people mention above about series/sub-series/sub-sub-series distinctions. [[Special:Contributions/50.81.150.190|50.81.150.190]] 17:10, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
:This page isn't one of our better articles in the wiki so excuse that. It labels series that shouldn't be covered here but in their respective series articles. The page itself is a mess and I think needs a gigantic overhaul. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:13, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
==Rosalina a main character?==
Um, isn't calling Rosalina one of the main characters a bit much. A main character would be a character who has been around since the Super Nintendo games and be in every game since his/her debut. Rosalina is as new as the Wii ages and only in 3 mainstreem games, not in any 2D side-scrolling games
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