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==Is this fact?== | |||
Is this indeed fact, or a clever ruse? {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | Is this indeed fact, or a clever ruse? {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | ||
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anyone notice that Baby Daisy's place on the character select screen is where Baby Peach's should be? And there is no Baby Peach, even though she is a starting character? {{unsigned|Super Joshi 7}} | anyone notice that Baby Daisy's place on the character select screen is where Baby Peach's should be? And there is no Baby Peach, even though she is a starting character? {{unsigned|Super Joshi 7}} | ||
:Baby Peach is right to the right of Baby Daisy... | :Baby Peach is right to the right of Baby Daisy... <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small> | ||
My thoughts exactly... {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | My thoughts exactly... {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | ||
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[[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]] | [[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]] | ||
== SMB Movie == | ==SMB Movie== | ||
Should that be mentioned as Baby Daisy's first appearance? [[User:CrossEyed7|CrossEyed7]] 23:46, 21 April 2008 (EDT) | Should that be mentioned as Baby Daisy's first appearance? [[User:CrossEyed7|CrossEyed7]] 23:46, 21 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
:Hmm...yes, I think so. Also adding information about her short appearance in the movie is fine. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small> I don't remember much about the movie but... | |||
:Hmm...yes, I think so. Also adding information about her short appearance in the movie is fine. | |||
Baby Daisy made a short appearance at the beginning of the movie. IT NEEDS A MENTION!! {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | Baby Daisy made a short appearance at the beginning of the movie. IT NEEDS A MENTION!! {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | ||
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>applauds* I can't believe it... that's just awesome that you would remember that. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 02:12, 22 April 2008 (EDT) | :<nowiki>*</nowiki>applauds* I can't believe it... that's just awesome that you would remember that. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 02:12, 22 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
::Oh dears; I've got an issue with that because I just changed it! But in my opinion, I think Baby Daisy herself needs to be kept game series related, honestly; I doubt the SMB movie really counts. The rest of the info about Baby Daisy is certainly true, so that wasn't changed. And besides, I think it's best to keep the Daisy/Baby Daisy "relation", anyway. --[[User:MeritC|M. C. - "Mario Gals" Enthusiast!]] 15:14, 25 June 2008 (EDT) | ::Oh dears; I've got an issue with that because I just changed it! But in my opinion, I think Baby Daisy herself needs to be kept game series related, honestly; I doubt the SMB movie really counts. The rest of the info about Baby Daisy is certainly true, so that wasn't changed. And besides, I think it's best to keep the Daisy/Baby Daisy "relation", anyway. --[[User:MeritC|M. C. - "Mario Gals" Enthusiast!]] 15:14, 25 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
:::We keep info from the SMB Movie, so it ''does'' count. OK? {{User:Toadette 4evur/sig}} | :::We keep info from the SMB Movie, so it ''does'' count. OK? {{User:Toadette 4evur/sig}} | ||
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:::::We don't just use game appearances. We use appearances from the movie as well. {{User:Toadette 4evur/sig}} | :::::We don't just use game appearances. We use appearances from the movie as well. {{User:Toadette 4evur/sig}} | ||
::::The basic idea is that we want to present all official information from the complete Mario series, not just information from the Super Mario video game series and its spin-offs. There are even some forms of media, such as the DiC TV shows, that have a specific place in the timeline, but a bunch of inconsistencies with later games in the series. We still include them in the articles, either in the biography sections or in a special section, but the point is that we want people to decide for themselves which parts of the series they believe fit together. However, I've yet to figure out a way that the movie fits in withe the games, so the only option here is the separate section, which we have done. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 18:30, 26 June 2008 (EDT) | ::::The basic idea is that we want to present all official information from the complete Mario series, not just information from the Super Mario video game series and its spin-offs. There are even some forms of media, such as the DiC TV shows, that have a specific place in the timeline, but a bunch of inconsistencies with later games in the series. We still include them in the articles, either in the biography sections or in a special section, but the point is that we want people to decide for themselves which parts of the series they believe fit together. However, I've yet to figure out a way that the movie fits in withe the games, so the only option here is the separate section, which we have done. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 18:30, 26 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
[[User_talk:XionGaTaosenai|XionGaTaosenai]]: I believe my alteration to the sub-article will clear up any confusion/debate on the movie appearance, but I need someone who knows more about the movie to help me get the details right. Just don't make it too long, and don't add a picture. I think its safe to say that 9 times out of 10 when someone comes to this page, they want info on the games' Baby Daisy, so the movie section should be small and easy to bypass. Thank you, and please tell me if you disagree on my opinions. I'm itching for an intelligent discussion/debate. | |||
[[User_talk:XionGaTaosenai|XionGaTaosenai]]: ...@#$% me and my inexperience... uh, let's NOT start another edit war over my alterations. Let's settle what needs to be settled here, now, before it gets out of hand. Baby Daisy is such a delightful bundle of joy... and controversy... | |||
[[User_talk:XionGaTaosenai|XionGaTaosenai]]: Um, would whoever undid my alterations please show themselves so that we can discuss this and come to a common decision? | |||
I'm not hiding. ' u ' | |||
Okay, so what's up? [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]] | |||
[[User_talk:XionGaTaosenai|XionGaTaosenai]]: Here. I spent an hour typing up a full report of my argument on this matter. | |||
:First off, yes, an infant Daisy (if you can call the movie's Daisy "Daisy") DOES appear in the beginning of the Super Mario Bros. Movie, and this happening needs a mention. However, by no stretch of the imagination can this appearance be considered the debut of the Baby Daisy we know and love today. | |||
:The Movie's "Baby Daisy" is merely a generic infant dropped on someone's doorstep. You see exactly 2 seconds of footage of this "character", and in these two seconds, the "character" doesn't even do anything. At least, not anything that would denote some kind of personality, or establish any kind of distinct identity. This two-second appearance shows nothing to denote any kind of actual character, and thus should not be considered as one. | |||
:Compare this to toaday's Baby Daisy. Today's Baby Daisy was invented to be a fresh face into a new Nintendo game. The REAL Baby Daisy does a lot more than cry for 2 seconds then appear again all grown-up. She walks, she talks, she babbles, she plays baseball and drives a car for freaksake! And she'll probably do even more things as time progresses. She has a distinct personality, and distinct features that give her an identity of her own. In other words, today's Baby Daisy is an actual character. But you all know that already. | |||
:The only thing these two kids have in common is that they are the immature forms of a character named Daisy. They aren't related in any fashion, and by no stretch of the imagination can they be called one and the same. In fact, the infant at the beginning of the live-action movie doesn't even have a name in the 2 seconds she appears. We know the baby is later named "Daisy", but the infant is definitley not ever specifically referred to as "Baby Daisy". As my final argument, the two don't even exist for remotley similar purposes. The infant "Daisy" is merely part of a short scene to set a small amount of backdrop to the movie. The real Baby Daisy is meant to be a new and soon-to-be familiar face in Mario Spin-off titles (and maybe even some main-series games), another choice of playable character to add to the variety. | |||
:Yes, an infant form of a character named and related to Daisy appears in the live-action movie, it does need a mention. However, it should be established that the live-action movie is NOT the debut of the real Baby Daisy. Also, this mention, and the related footnote, should be small, short, and lacking a picture, so that it can be easily skipped/skimmed over by readers who 9 times out of 10 will want to know more about the real Baby Daisy, and not the movie appearance. | |||
Thank you for reading, please tell me your own opinions so we can come to an agreement. | |||
:Everyone in the movie is different from how they are in the games, but that doesn't mean they're different people, just different incarnations of the same character. The young, clean-faced Luigi is still Luigi, the humanoid King Koopa is still Bowser, and the crying baby Daisy is still Baby Daisy. Ignoring the movie would be a huge oversight: we include all depictions of the characters in their articles. Just look at the mention of "[[Warios Weihnachtsmärchen]]" in the [[Baby_Mario#"Warios Weihnachtsmärchen"|Baby Mario]] and [[Baby Wario]] articles, or the "[[Toddler Terrors of Time Travel]]" section in [[Baby_Luigi#"Toddler Terrors of Time Travel"|Baby Luigi]] and Baby Mario, or the "[[Two Plumbers and a Baby]]" depictions of [[Baby_Bowser#"Two Plumbers and a Baby"|Baby Bowser]] and [[Baby_Peach#"Two Plumbers and a Baby"|Baby Peach]]. They look different, and they don't necessarily act the same, but they are legitimate "versions" of those characters as babies, and so they are mentioned in those characters' Baby articles. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:33, 17 August 2009 (EDT) | |||
::[[User_talk:XionGaTaosenai|Xion]]: This is correct, and that is why the movie appearance needs a (small) mention. But in all the other above examples you showed, the characters take some legitamate action that defines them as characters. Not so for the Infant Daisy in the live-action movie. Now, if a toddler Daisy showed up causing two-year old type havoc at Mother Teresa's in a scene lasting longer than say, five minutes, I would buy it. But the way it is, I don't think that the Live-Action movie counts as an official legitamate appearance of Baby Daisy. | |||
== Protecting == | == Protecting == | ||
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Heh, this article has been protected three times in one week. XD {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | Heh, this article has been protected three times in one week. XD {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | ||
someone needs to put this on here page:<nowiki>{{Mario Kart Wii Playable Characters}}</nowiki>--[[User:Blue Koop|Blue Koop]] 19:27, 3 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
someone needs to put this on here page:{{Mario Kart Wii Playable Characters}}--[[User:Blue Koop|Blue Koop]] 19:27, 3 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
Now that the proposal has passed and we have a solution, should the article now be unprotected? -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 17:08, 6 May 2008 (EDT) | Now that the proposal has passed and we have a solution, should the article now be unprotected? -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]][[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 17:08, 6 May 2008 (EDT) | ||
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Okay, this may sound crazy, but still needs to be asked -- does anyone have any proof in terms of Deanna Mustard being the voice actress for Baby Daisy? I know for sure that Deanna does the "main" Princess Daisy, but just want clarification she also does Baby Daisy (even though it seems all roads point to her in that case). Thanks. --[[User:MeritC|M. C. - "Mario Gals" Enthusiast!]] 21:38, 25 June 2008 (EDT) | Okay, this may sound crazy, but still needs to be asked -- does anyone have any proof in terms of Deanna Mustard being the voice actress for Baby Daisy? I know for sure that Deanna does the "main" Princess Daisy, but just want clarification she also does Baby Daisy (even though it seems all roads point to her in that case). Thanks. --[[User:MeritC|M. C. - "Mario Gals" Enthusiast!]] 21:38, 25 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
Babies are voiced by the same people.[[User:Nintendofan146|Nintendofan146]] 09:12, 6 July 2008 (EDT) | |||
==WTF?== | |||
Baby DK has been around longer than Baby Daisy and her article is uber longer than his?! Just because people like Baby Daisy better doesn't meen her article has to be longer than a less liked character!!{{User:Phailure/sig}} | |||
:What do you want to do about this? Shorten Baby Daisy's article? No. If you think Baby DK's article should be longer, go ahead and expand it. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 12:58, 3 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
::This is a Wiki. Length of articles does not always mean notability. In Baby DK's case for example, it means the amount of effort people have put into the article. We have a group of users on this Wiki who are fans of the "damsels" and thus the articles on Peach, Daisy, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, and Rosalina are complete while articles about the DK series are not. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:11, 3 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
Wow I really hate the fact I have to harshly watch what I say nowadays. Ok, to the person who started this: UHHH?? Then if you care so much improve on his article yourself. [[User:ForeverDaisy09|FD09]] | |||
==Expansion of Introductory Part== | |||
The introductory part of this article should be expanded. It's just two short sentences, and looks bad on the main page. I don't know much about this character, so it would be great if someone else could expand it. I didn't want to nominate this article to be unfeatured just for this, but if it isn't done, I will nominate it :P {{User:Time Q/sig}} 13:00, 2 May 2009 (EDT) | |||
== Yoshi island 3ds appearence....? == | |||
Is she going to appear in the upcoming Yoshi Island 3ds? | |||
[[User:Goombob|Goombob XD]] ([[User talk:Goombob|talk]]) 14:32, 14 May 2013 (EDT)Goombob | |||
:Unconfirmed {{User|Yoshi876}} | |||
Questions like this you should probelly not ask, because no one knows.{{User:Kingfawful4321/sig}} | |||
:Kingfawful is right, we wait until things are announced, only Nintendo knows what's in the game and I'm sure that they aren't 100% certain of everything in it yet. {{User|Yoshi876}} | |||
== Its about her Clothing.. == | |||
Okay, so we know that currently for Baby Daisy's clothes, it says that for her shoes she wears ''baby dress shoes'', and Baby Peach wears the same shoes, just in pink. But for her article, it says the shoes are ''sneakers''. I'm a bit confused about this, can someone please fix this issue.. :) | |||
--[[User:Peach4Life|Peach4Life]] ([[User talk:Peach4Life|talk]]) Saturday, July 13 2013, 8:45 PM | |||
== Edit request == | |||
In the "Relationships" section it says "the Mario Kart Wii official player's guide stats that Baby Luigi was frightened of her". "stats" is a typo, it should be "states". The article is protected so I can't edit it myself. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/121.208.225.26|121.208.225.26]] 21:27, March 11, 2020 (EDT) | |||