Talk:Moneybags

What is the correct name: Moneybags or Money Bags? -- Son of Suns

Moneybags or MoneyBags, no difference. By the way who rewrote the ENTIRE article?

I did, however I actually redirected. It's Moneybags if I'm correct and not Money (NOTICE THE SPACE) Bags Paper Jorge

Official name? Source? Phoenix Rider

The official NSMB strategy guide. Gofer

Do we really need the part about the FAQ? Paper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·

What FAQ, anyway? It doesn't tell. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:09, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

Move?

Well, considering Coin Coffer is it's most recent name, and the one it's referred to as in the article, would a move be necessary, with Moneybag becoming a redirect? ThatPeskyKoopaling 14:50, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

I agree, but you should make a TPP. YoshiCookie (talk) 10:15, 10 December 2015 (EST)

What is a TPP?

Electrical Bowser jr. (talk) 09:08, 30 July 2012 (EDT)Electrical Bowser jr.

Official Name

So who decided that a Coin Coffer was the same enemy as a Moneybag despite looking completely different? Vent (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2012 (EDT)

Even though they act the same are not the same enemy snice their Japanese and English are different.

L151

Where did you find that image? I've been looking everywhere for a Japanese name for Coin Coffer to confirm if its the same enemy or not, and it looks like it isn't :O Vent (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

For the record, that name says "Gamanē", where as Moneybags is "Gamaguchi". Different enemy but apparently related in some fashion. Vent (talk) 15:20, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

Identifier

Given that Super Mario 64 will be a more searched-for topic, does this page really need the identifier? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:28, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

I would say "no" if "Moneybag" weren't such an unintuitive name for an enemy. Someone could be searching for the Mario Party bags, since their official name of "Coin Bag" isn't mentioned often. Or they could just be searching for moneybags in general. 22:06, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

But just how popular is Mario Party, anyways? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:10, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

That was just an example. The point is that "Moneybag" is an unintuitive name that fails to distunguish it from actual bags of money. Furthermore, the Moneybags themselves, regardless of their appearance in a SM64, are not a particularly iconic enemy. They're kind of remote, and their name only appears in guides. You could, on the same note, suggest that the Bats from Super Mario Galaxy have dibs on the "Bat" name, simply because they're from a more popular game than the other Bats. 23:18, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

Except no I couldn't because Luigi's Mansion is among the most iconic. The successor would've had about the same amount of intuitiveness, in not for the "cough" pun. But I digress. I see what you mean. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:22, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

True name

The New Super Mario Bros. Player's Guide, as rife with mistakes as it is ("Thwomp Trap?" "Sumo Bro?"), lists everything in singular form, yet "Moneybags" is written just like that: with an s on the end. Which most likely means that the enemy's name is, in fact, MoneybagS, with an s on the end. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:49, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

You raise a very good point. If only we could see if the SM64 guide treated it in the same manner, just with a space. MarioComix (talk) 22:22, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

According to LinktheLefty here, it does. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:13, 8 December 2017 (EST)

And the image is now uploaded, I see. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:09, 9 December 2017 (EST)

Yep. If you look through the page history, the reason it was changed from Moneybags in the first place is because "The one who spells Moneybag as Moneybags is crazy. I.". LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:22, 9 December 2017 (EST)

Hm, that user's still sorta-active, wonder what they'd say now? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:32, 9 December 2017 (EST)

So, about Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia... The Super Mario 64 section calls it "Moneybag" (86), but the New Super Mario Bros. section calls it "Moneybags" (115). With or without it, I motion to change it to "Moneybags" since that was the version used in the New Super Mario Bros. Player's Guide and "Moneybag" is a genuine mistake on our end. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

I agree to change it to Moneybags. MarioComix (talk) 20:17, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

That's also the same case we use for the Stars enemy, so I'm not opposed to to new title. ^(T|C) 08:58, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Singular

I don't get it; is the singular form "Moneybag" or "Moneybags"? CrazyPencilDawg (talk) 19:41, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

Moneybags. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:57, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

True name, again

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Why is the name Moneybag not used again as the page title, seeing as it comes from a Nintendo-created page about Mario 64? The Moneybags and Money Bags plural names come from the NSMB Player's Guide which, as stated above, is already "rife with mistakes" anyway, and the SM64 Player's Guide, respectively. I believe by normal means the Nintendo JP website should take presedence over a guidebook. I would have made this change myself but seeing as this was an agreed-upon decision before I figured it was appropriate to put on here. ~ Qyzxf (talk) 22:45, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

What it comes down to mainly is that they haven't appeared in a new game and the wiki generally makes it a point to use the names as they evolved over time, and since the site takes an entirely different approach where they retroactively use the modern names (which I guess works for their purposes), we get to keep the 'pluralized' form they had officially for over twenty years straight (and it doesn't help that the 'singular' started off being unofficial). LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:20, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

But it's also a rule to use the current name as the title regardless (Nipper Dandelion, Propeller Piranha, etc.), and honestly I think it's entirely plausible that Nintendo just decided to change the name to the more logical singular version independently from the wiki. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 13:29, November 17, 2023 (EST)

In general cases (not all, but often), if a more recent name comes from a lower priority source, the older name still stays as the title; otherwise we'd have, say, moved Banzai Bill to Bomber Bill. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:20, November 17, 2023 (EST)

Portal also had its own collection of outright typos; for example, the SM64 page repeatedly misspells Piranha Plant as Piranha Plan. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:24, November 17, 2023 (EST)

I don't see much of a reason to assume this is also a typo. Piranha Plant (and also Banzai Bill) have plenty of games confirming their names, while this only seems to have been named in two guides that already disagree on how to spell it. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 21:14, November 17, 2023 (EST)