Talk:Electro-Koopa

Split Electro-Koopa into three articles

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split article 6-0
The three Electro-Koopa variants described in this article, I feel, are distinct enough to get their own pages. They certainly have fairly drastic different appearances and different behavior. Finally, they're not treated as interchangeable compared the different Koopa/Snifit/Shy Guy colors. Splitting this article will also be generally better for linking instead of just lumping all of them under piped links and vague "Electro-Koopa(s)".

Proposer: Bazooka Mario (talk)
Deadline: November 9, 2015 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Bazooka Mario (talk)
2. Walkazo (talk) - This has bugged me forever for the reasons mentioned above, I just never bothered doing anything (besides complaining on the forum the other day, anyway, which inspired the proposal, so yay). The green one also has a different Japanese name, as extra incentive to split.
3. LudwigVon (talk) - Per Walkazo.
4. Warioad (talk) - Per all. This page looks like a catalog of electro-koopas in its current state.
5. Niiue (talk) Per all, especially considering how the green variant is one of a kind.
6. RandomYoshi (talk) – Per all.

Comments

When it comes to ascribing names to the species, are we just going with "Electro-Koopa (red/blue/green)"? The guides that I have (Nintendo Power and BradyGames) both refer to the blue variety as Electro-Koopas and don't have much else for the other ones (NP vaguely calls them turtles, BG calls them "Denki Nokonoko", which is just a romanisation of their Japanese name and is thus to be taken with a grain of salt). The game has vague "Look out for Electro-Koopas!" from a couple of NPC's, but that doesn't provide anything for the green guy. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I think going with (red/blue/green) modifiers is the ideal route to go although I don't know if that really violates policy or not. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:41, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Colours will work fine: simple and straightforward. There's already a precedent for it too, thanks to Chap (blue) and Chap (green) from SPM. - Walkazo 22:48, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Also the Blue Mouse and Purple Mouse from Luigi's Mansion. Magikrazy (talk)

Slightly off topic here: while I agree with this proposal, it reminds me of a proposal I made a while back on splitting Green and Red Koopa Troopas (which, if anyone recalls, was so unpopular that people actually accused me of making a prank proposal). So why is this very similar proposal suceeding? The same reasoning could be given to both Electro-Koopas and Koopa Troopas: different looks and different characteristics.

Also, (I don't mean to be rude), Bazooka Mario left this nice comment back on the Koopa Troopa proposal: "I don't appreciate the dismissive attitude because you can technically make a point that two enemies that look different and behave differently should be given separate articles." Um... why doesn't that apply here? I'm probably just missing a really obvious point, so someone please enlighten me. --Andymii (talk) 00:52, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

For starters, the Electro-Koopas have different physiology as well as very drastic behavior. The blue one is small, sticks out its head more, has a thing on its head. It throws its shell, and Mario has to spray its shell to give it a taste of its own medicine. The red one has a build similar to a Buzzy Beetle. It patrols on fences, so Mario has use an attack on the other side (a nicely placed kick or a ferocious butt stomp) to fry them into soup. Finally, the green one is similar to the red one, but much bigger, like a boss (its Japanese name is "King Electro-Koopa"), and it's sleeping, but still causing havoc on the Ferris Wheel. Mario has to kill it in a similar fashion to the red one, but with a well-placed kick.

The Koopa Troopas, on the other hand, have only one minor difference which is mere ledge behavior and slightly different stats in the Baseball games. Their aesthetic differences is only their color. The Koopa Troopa colors are interchangeable, and unlike this article, the Koopa Troopa article isn't split into sections on red Koopa, green Koopa, blue Koopa, etc. since it would get redundant quickly. Generally, though, the Koopa Troopas are identical regardless of color as in Mario Strikers games, Mario Excitebike, Paper Mario, and Super Smash Bros.. Finally, the ledge behavior thing isn't restricted to Koopas, since Snifits and Shy Guys also have this trait, but I don't think it would be wise to split between Red, Gray, and Pink Shy Guys/Snifits. Koopas appear in such a great amount of games compared to the confinement of Electro-Koopas as well, so I feel the cases here isn't very good.

Hope I cleared up for you. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:39, 1 November 2015 (EST)