MarioWiki:Proposals

Current time: Friday, April 19th, 14:16 GMT

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken. "Vote" periods last for one week. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!"). All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options. For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
   • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

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===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "April 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

• Rename "little bird" to "small bird" (discuss) Deadline: April 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Delete Trophy Tussle (discuss) Deadline: April 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Delete all Super Smash Bros. challenges pages (discuss) Deadline: April 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Cog (Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!) and Cog (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door) into Cog (obstacle) and rename page to "Cog" (discuss) Deadline: April 24, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Delete or be more specific with Template:Unreferenced (discuss) Deadline: April 25, 2024, 23:59 GMT
• Split Hell from List of implied locations (discuss) Deadline: April 27, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Merge the Wrecking Crew and VS. Wrecking Crew phases into list articles, Axis (ended February 24, 2022)

Do not consider usage of classic recurring themes as references to the game of origin, Swallow (ended March 9, 2022)

Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)

Enforce WCAG Level AA standards to mainspace and template content, PanchamBro (ended May 29, 2022)

Change how RPG enemy infoboxes classify role, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2022)

Trim away detailed special move information for all non-Mario fighters, Koopa con Carne (ended January 30, 2023)

• ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.

Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)

Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)

Consider filenames as sources and create redirects, Axis (ended August 24, 2023)

Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)

Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)

Standardize the formatting of foreign and explanatory words and phrases in "Names in other languages" tables, Annalisa10 (ended February 7, 2024)

Trim or remove various Smash franchise-specific subcategories, Camwoodstock (ended February 25, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)

Split the various reissues of Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended April 22, 2022)

Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)

Expand source priority exception to include regional English differences, LinkTheLefty (ended January 14, 2023)

Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)

Remove the list of Super Smash Bros. series objects, Axis (ended May 10, 2023)

Merge Start Dash with Rocket Start, Koopa con Carne (ended August 17, 2023)

Use italics for the full title of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass, Hewer (ended September 15, 2023)

Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)

Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)

Decide which series certain Yoshi games are related to, GuntherBB (ended December 14, 2023)

Change the Super Mario 64 DS level section to include more specific character requirements, Altendo (ended December 20, 2023)

Replace "List of Game Over screens" and "'Game Over' as death" sections with a "History" section, DrippingYellow (ended December 20, 2023)

Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)

Make major changes to the MarioWiki:Links page, PnnyCrygr (ended January 10, 2024)

Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)

Merge the "Johnson" running gag into one page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)

Merge the ghost Bats and Mice from Luigi's Mansion to their respective organic counterparts from the later games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)

Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)

Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)

Merge Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner to Mii, TheUndescribableGhost (ended March 28, 2024)

Merge Masterpieces to the Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U articles, Camwoodstock (ended March 31, 2024)

Split Super Luigi Bros. from NES Remix 2, DrippingYellow (ended April 5, 2024)

Merge Game & Watch: Manhole (minigame) with Manhole (Game & Watch), JanMisali (ended April 9, 2024)

Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)

Rename Beanstalk to Vine, DrippingYellow (ended April 11, 2024)

Merge Treble clef with Note, Nintendo101 (ended April 17, 2024)

List of talk page proposals

• Rename Manager Joe to Joe (discuss) Deadline: March 18, 2019, 23:59 GMT
• Decide on a name for Thorny flower redux (discuss) Deadline: March 20, 2019, 23:59 GMT
• Split the New Super Mario Bros. info from the Big Wiggler article (discuss) Deadline: March 22, 2019, 23:59 GMT
• Split the ground Urchin (discuss) Deadline: March 22, 2019, 23:59 GMT
• Merge all or certain color Yoshis into Yoshi (species) (discuss) Deadline: March 24, 2019, 23:59 GMT
• Decide how to carry out the renaming of Berry (discuss) Deadline: March 30, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Unimplemented proposals

#	Proposal	User	Date
1	Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series Notes: The DK: King of Swing and DK: Jungle Climber boss levels, while not explicitly covered by this proposal, should receive the same treatment. All Donkey Kong Land boss levels have been created.	Aokage (talk)	January 3, 2015
2	Create a template for the Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door badge drop rates	Lord Bowser (talk)	August 17, 2016
3	Clean up Category:Artifacts	Niiue (talk)	August 22, 2017
4	Expand the Behemoth King article	Owencrazyboy9 (talk)	December 23, 2017
5	Create articles for the Wario: Master of Disguise episodes	DKPetey99 (talk)	January 23, 2018
6	Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series	BBQ Turtle (talk)	July 17, 2018
7	Allow ports of games with substantial new content to be split from the parent articles	Waluigi Time (talk)	July 23, 2018

Writing guidelines

Either restrict usage of or don't use NTSC or PAL on articles

It's common knowledge to mention regional differences between versions of the same game across the globe and there's nothing wrong with that. You know what is, though? Using the terms "NTSC" and "PAL" when it actually wouldn't really apply that well in the first place.

First of all, NTSC and PAL would really only apply for the older (analog) TV sets back in the day. Newer HDTVs don't really use the analog NTSC or PAL video standards anymore, instead going for digital standards like ATSC, ISDB or DTMB, for example.

Second of all, NTSC and PAL are mainly used to denote which video standard is used for TVs, not so much for video games (except for rare cases in which the content is exactly the same as the American version, where the only difference is game speed thanks to the PAL format in question).

Not only that, but several people are still insisting on using NTSC and PAL for certain cases when it really wouldn't make sense (for example, this revision of the Shifty Shrine article). This needs to change.

I'm proposing to replace either any or most instances of "NTSC" or "PAL" for video game regional differences with "American English" or "British English" whenever mentioned in articles. My reasons as for why are as follows:

• The Game Boy, DS and Switch systems are region-free, meaning any game can work on any regional system.
• Most translations into American and British English are basically almost identical (e.g. Kirby: Triple Deluxe, Mario Party 8, etc.). There are the rare few (Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes, for example) that are completely different in many ways.
• For the most part, only Europe, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand use the PAL standard for older video game consoles (before the Wii U). Japan, China, Korea, the US, Mexico and Canada use the NTSC standard for those games. Stating the PAL or NTSC version for games whose releases are on newer consoles that use 1080p graphics (Wii U and Switch, currently) or on portable systems (Game Boy, Game Boy Colour, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS or Nintendo 3DS) is just inaccurate.

I foresee so many ways this proposal could go in these two weeks so I'm adding multiple options. These options could be the one with the most votes at the end instead of just one, so they are there just in case. If you guys have any suggestions for other options before the end of the first week, then that would be great. The currently available options at the moment are the following:

1. Replace any instance of NTSC and PAL for video game regional differences with American English and British English, respectively. My preferred choice.
2. Use American English and British English for articles that relate to games for the portable systems and the Wii U and Nintendo Switch, but use NTSC and PAL for everything else. My second preferred choice.
3. Do absolutely nothing. I suggest that we do not pick this option under any circumstance.

Proposer: Owencrazyboy9 (talk)
Deadline: "March 29, 2019, 23:59 GMT"

Option 1: Use the American English and British English terminology wherever possible

1. Owencrazyboy9 (talk) My preferred option.

Option 2: Use NTSC or PAL only for articles that relate to the older home consoles (NES, SNES, N64, GCN and Wii) / Use the British or American English terminology for handheld consoles, the Wii U and the Switch

1. Owencrazyboy9 (talk) Second preferred option. After all, NTSC and PAL only apply to the analog TV sets.

Comments

From what I've seen, people don't say that they're "NTSC" or "PAL," but say "NTSC region" or "PAL region," which works as a shorthand way of denoting the regional split where differences tend to crop up. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:43, March 14, 2019 (EDT)

Uh, interesting. Never knew that until now (either that, or I never really saw that crop up that often). For the most part, whenever people mention it, they usually say "NTSC version" or "PAL version." – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:58, March 14, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, NTSC region and PAL region are barely used on this wiki, if at all. There's also the issue that NTSC is used in Japan as well, so I can see why NTSC region isn't really used that much.--Mister Wu (talk) 22:38, March 14, 2019 (EDT)

I've mostly sen it in regards to the original Luigi's Mansion, where it is a difference in-line with said TV parameter differences. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:06, March 14, 2019 (EDT)

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

Remove information about Captain N: The Game Master + Captain Rainbow from non-Mario subjects

Currently, MarioWiki:Coverage considers Captain N: The Game Master a guest appearance. However, for some reason, editors have decided that this means we should also cover appearances in the show of non-Mario characters that have crossed over with the Mario series in other more relevant media. Additionally, whenever Captain N is referenced as a subject's first appearance, it is mentioned as "Mario-related media", which I think is inaccurate based on our coverage policy, although this is only done on three articles, while the rest ignore the show in their infobox entirely.

This feels strange and outside the scope of our wiki, and doesn't make sense when Captain N's only relevance to the Mario franchise is that Donkey Kong and a few Donkey Kong Jr. enemies appear in a few episodes, along with the usage of Warp Zones. It's also inconsistent with how we cover other guest appearances; Densetsu no Starfy 3 is considered a guest appearance, but we no longer have an article on Starfy following our shift in Smash coverage. Nintendo Land and Nintendo Badge Arcade don't mention appearances of characters from other franchises on their articles. I did find two other exceptions; Little Mac and Takamaru's articles both mention their appearance in Captain Rainbow. Little Mac's article also mentions his playable appearance in Punch-Out!!, but that's kind of iffy in my opinion and should be saved for another time.

Therefore, I propose that coverage of Captain N: The Game Master and Captain Rainbow for subjects not originating in the Mario franchise be removed.

This would potentially affect the following pages:

• Affected by removing any Captain N: The Game Master content (Options 1, 2, 3, and 4):
  • Dr. Light
  • Dragonlord
  • Ganon
  • Link
  • Princess Zelda
  • Ridley
  • Slime (Dragon Quest)
• Affected by removing all Captain N: The Game Master content (Options 1 and 4):
  • Dr. Wily
  • Dracula
  • Mega Man
  • Pit (character)
  • Simon Belmont
• Affected by removing Captain Rainbow content (Options 1, 2, and 5):
  • Little Mac
  • Takamaru

My apologies if this is confusing, I've accidentally made a sort of tangled mess here. Leave any questions in the comments and I'll be glad to sort them out.

Proposer: Waluigi Time (talk)
Deadline: March 23, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Option 1: Remove all Captain N and Captain Rainbow information

1. Waluigi Time (talk) Per proposal.

Option 2: Remove Captain N information for characters that do not interact with Mario elements and Captain Rainbow information

1. Waluigi Time (talk) My second choice.

Option 3: Just remove Captain N information for characters that do not interact with Mario elements

1. Doomhiker (talk) It is pretty harmless to mention a third party character's appearance in a third party game that we cover, as Mario characters appear in Captain Rainbow. As with Captain N I agree with not covering their appearances in episodes that are not Mario related however I do feel like we should still cover their appearances in episodes where they interact with Mario-related things. Per Glowsquid.
2. Waluigi Time (talk) My second second choice.
3. Toadette the Achiever (talk) I think this is the best option, as we sometimes still cover guest appearance-related subjects on their own articles; see Nintendo Village and Mario Chase as an example. But since Mario characters do appear in the show, I'd say removing all information would be counter-intuitive and have no real benefit. The Captain Rainbow information is also needed, I feel.

Option 6: Do nothing

1. Glowsquid (talk) - I personally think it's Neat and harmless to have an aside saying among the lines of "oh btw this guy is in Captain N/Captain Rainbow/other weird crossover" as long as it doesn't go too in-depth. Furthermore, a good chunk of the characters listed in the affected article list do interact with the Mario-relevant elements of Captain N (see below) and those are interractions are perfectly within the scope of the wiki to describe, so unless that is ammended, I'll have to oppose anyway.
2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
3. Niiue (talk) Per all.

#Doomhiker (talk) It is pretty harmless to mention a third party character's appearance in a third party game that we cover, as Mario characters appear in Captain Rainbow. As with Captain N I agree with not covering their appearances in episodes that are not Mario related however I do feel like we should still cover their appearances in episodes where they interact with Mario-related things, and as this proposal's options only account for completely exterminating information on third party character's appearances in Captain N, I have to fully oppose for now. Per Glowsquid.

Comments

fyi, even if this pass, I would strongy recommend against removing the Captain N info from the pages about the show's core cast (which is to say, Simon Pit and Mega Man) and Dr. Wily since they all interract with Donkey Kong at some point. Infact, one of the show's episode is about Simon Belmont getting knocked on the head, wake up thinking he's Donkey Kong Jr. and going out to find his "father". So yeah, bad idea. --Glowsquid (talk) 13:49, March 16, 2019 (EDT)

Per requests, I have changed the proposal to add an option to keep information about the characters who interact with Mario-related elements in the show. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:15, March 16, 2019 (EDT)

Changes

Merge Assist Trophies that have made minor appearances in the Mario franchise

(See this proposal before voting.)

After the merge for almost all of the categories listed in the linked proposal, there were a handful of pages that were left over, a number of them being Assist Trophies. The reason for this seems to be that they've made some sort of appearance in the Mario games, be it appearances as Mystery Mushroom costumes in Super Mario Maker and cameos in WarioWare microgames. However, when you think about the fact that Mystery Mushroom costumes like Babymetal and microgame characters (both non-playable and playable, e.g. the Empress Bulbax or the Urban Champion fighter) don't have their own articles - which was part of the reason Arcade Bunny was deleted - their still being separate doesn't quite make sense. We've already decided to merge the Assist Trophies, and minor appearances like these in any kind of Mario-related media alone don't warrant separate articles. There have been a few that have already been picked off individually (adding to the inconsistency), including Midna's page; using that as a precedent, it's time we finish this in one fell swoop.

For the sake of going with the original plan of enacting the changes to our Smash coverage one step at a time, I'm only focusing on the Assist Trophy characters in this proposal instead of every non-Mario subject that may have articles out there, with one exception I found was similar enough to include (see below).

Affected pages:

• Condor - The exception in the proposal: Not an Assist Trophy, but even smaller roles as a stage element in Melee's Target Test and appearing in the Ice Climbers' entrance and Final Smash. Its only Mario-franchise appearance is a single microgame.
• Excitebike (character) - A Mystery Mushroom costume; other than that, it only appears in a banner in Excitebike Arena.
• Ghosts (Pac-Man) - Covers Blinky's appearance in the Mario Kart arcade games, who already has his own page. This page is utterly pointless.
• Metroid (species) - Appears in a few microgames, a treasure in WL2, and the recently discovered cameo in DKCTF, all of which aren't worthy of separate articles.
• Mother Brain - Appears in a microgame, as well as Captain N; however, recall that MarioWiki:Coverage lists N as a guest appearance, meaning we only cover the show itself and any Mario-related elements in it. She is only mentioned by name in the Nintendo Comics System and SMRPG.
• Nintendog - Two microgame appearances. The article even covers Mario references in Nintendogs, which belong on the references page.
• Sheriff (character) - Microgame appearance.
• Takamaru - Microgame appearance, and same deal with Mother Brain: Captain Rainbow is a guest appearance, and Takamaru falls outside the coverage.

Proposer: Mario jc (talk)
Deadline: March 22, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Mario jc (talk) For the same reasons Arcade Bunny and Midna were removed, these should be, too.
2. Alex95 (talk) - I was thinking of something like this when I saw the Metroid disambiguation the other day. Some of these don't need pages on the Mario Wiki, but I didn't realize just how much more we don't really need. Per proposal.
3. Waluigi Time (talk) Per proposal. I'd also like to see some of the items from other franchises merged, but that's a proposal for another time.
4. FanOfYoshi (talk) Merging them makes sense with the previous proposal, and, if a random person tries to look Super Smash Bros series things listed on this wiki, it's better to redirect them on this page.
5. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all.
6. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
7. Doomhiker (talk) No point for these pages or other similar pages to exist. The only exceptions that I can think of is Blinky due to his playable appearances in the Mario Kart series and Barbara due to her appearing in several web comics. Per all.
8. Baby Luigi (talk) per all
9. Toadette the Achiever (talk) We don't give Shantae any coverage despite her cameos in WarioWare: D.I.Y. and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, so why should any of the listed articles be present on this wiki? Per all.
10. MarioManiac1981 (talk) Let's remove these unnecessary articles from the Super Mario Wiki. Per all.

Comments

I originally wanted to include Balloon Fighter as another exception; however, seeing as he's playable in a number of microgames in addition to a full-length minigame, this could be open to even greater debate that I think would be best handled separately. If anyone finds any more pages that can be added to the list, please let me know. Mario JC 00:26, March 15, 2019 (EDT)

@Doomhiker: As mentioned in the proposal, Blinky already has his own page. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 17:25, March 15, 2019 (EDT)

@Waluigi Time I knew that, I just used his page as an example of pages like the pages that are getting merged that should stay. Doomhiker (talk) 17:27, March 15, 2019 (EDT)

Blinky isn't getting merged though, he's unaffected by this proposal. Only the article about the Pac-Man ghosts in general would be merged. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:05, March 16, 2019 (EDT)

I know that too, I just used his page as an example. Doomhiker (talk) 13:10, March 16, 2019 (EDT)

Super Mario Galaxy / Super Mario Galaxy 2 fiery counterparts

A while ago, I asked LinkTheLefty (talk) if "Fiery Gobblegut" is the name of the fiery version of Gobblegut found in Battle Belt Galaxy, and he said that the name is unofficial. Since it has also come to our attention that the fierier version of King Kaliente from Bowser Jr.'s Lava Reactor does not have its own separate article, I propose we do any of the following:

1. Split the fiery King Kaliente from King Kaliente. I strongly suggest doing this, as these versions of the bosses are actually more differentiable than the "X" bosses from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story and Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, which we already have split.
2. Merge the fiery Gobblegut with Gobblegut. I strongly suggest not doing this, for the reasons listed above.
3. Do nothing. I could not have opposed this any more. Allowing this option to pass would cause a horrible inconsistency that would worsen the quality of how we handle alternate versions of enemies and bosses.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: March 24, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Option A

1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) My preferred option, for reasons already stated.

Comments

While I'm not sure how to vote on this proposal quite yet, I'd like to point out that the mission name for the second King Kaliente battle is King Kaliente's Spicy Return. This seems to imply that King Kaliente is indeed the same character in both galaxies. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 19:05, March 17, 2019 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.