MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Wii Maple Treeway

Wii Maple Treeway

Support

1. Killer Moth (talk) The page is well written and of good length. It does a good job at detailing the course layout, shortcuts, and the changes made to the course in later appearances. The audio files work and there are no red links or improvement tags. The article has a good number of high-quality images.
2. RealStuffMister (talk) I cannot see why not, there are no real issues with this page as far as i am aware, and it describes the course perfectly.
3. marioGamer119 (talk) The Page as a whole perfectly describes the Course as it perfectly states the changes it had throughout the years, the music is also perfect as well.

Oppose

1. Wikiboy10 (talk) There are minor problems with the article, such as " Wigglers make their home on the treetops," It's a bit flowery. That is easily fixable, though. My genuine concern, however, is the length. It's a bit too short, and this comes off as any other track article.

Comments

@Wikiboy10 Thank you for voicing your concerns. I am going to have to disagree with you on the length of the article. There are multiple featured articles that are the same or similar in length to it such as Mama Luigi, Smithy, Geno, Baby Daisy, Dimentio, Krunch, etc. If this article is "too short" then featured articles such as the ones that I have mentioned would also be too short. As for the claim that it comes off as any other track article, I also have to disagree. Compared to other track articles such as Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart Wii), Luigi Circuit (Mario Kart Wii), N64 Frappe Snowland, DS Cheep Cheep Beach, etc, the article does a much better job at describing the courses layout. It gives details on the shortcuts that can be performed as well as information on the official Mario Kart Wii tournaments. It tells what changes where made to the track in later games and is what I consider the article that other track articles should be modeled after (Outside of a few flowery parts which I have fixed per your oppose. If you found anything else that is of concern then feel free to tell me and I will get it fixed). I hope that you will put what I have said into consideration. --Killer Moth (talk) 13:37, September 26, 2022 (EDT)

I feel Mario Kart tracks can pass as quality articles that can be featured, but my only question stems from "Is there enough information to pass it as a featured article?". I know FAs aren't all about what the article is about, it's about if it's the best of the best this Wiki can offer in terms of writing, description etc. That's why I wonder is there really enough here? 3DS Neo Bowser City is also an article of similar length that has a good description of the track, detailed changes between its appearances in Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart Tour and loads of images pulled from each of its appearances, especially all the icons from Tour. Remember that a lot of the length of these articles can also just be the multiple icon images from Tour, offering a deceptive "it's long enough" look. That all being said, can the written information itself pass for a featured article? I wouldn't mind hearing input from others regarding how much the length of an article actually means here and if it really does impact the decision on if articles like these can be featured. Tails777 Talk to me!

In my opinion, if we even have the discussions like this surrounding length, it doesn't really meet the length requirement to be featured, ergo, it doesn't comfortably pass the "reasonable length". Not to mention, I do think layout descriptions generally are repetitive and cumbersome information that are tough to follow (as someone who wrote some of them years back) so I do think they should have some form of restructuring in general so their information is more presentable. Ray Trace^(T|C) 19:06, September 26, 2022 (EDT)