MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 31

File
How do you upload a file? User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 19:50, 27 February 2015 (EST)
 * Click on the link on the sidebar that says "Upload File". However, this page isn't a Q&A for how to edit the wiki: we have FAQ and its talk page for this sort of thing, although you should just read Manual of Style and look through our many policy and help pages first, as most of the answers to potential questions are already explained somewhere. - 20:22, 27 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks a lot! User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 20:56, 27 February 2015 (EST)

Wait, is it ok if I upload a non Nintendo image? User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 21:00, 27 February 2015 (EST)

I need to know how to make a image your personal image. User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 08:18, 28 February 2015 (EST)


 * Read Personal Images. Like I said, most info is already available somewhere: please look for answers yourself rather than posting questions here. This page is for discussing matters relevant to the Main page or wiki as a whole. - 11:19, 28 February 2015 (EST)

I got it now. Thanks a lot! User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 17:31, 28 February 2015 (EST)

How do you make a new version of a image? User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk &middot; edits) 18:47, 1 March 2015 (EST)


 * You have to STOP asking these questions here. This is not a Q&A page. You upload new versions of an image by clicking the "Upload a new version of this file" link on the image's page. Now please, read some policy pages instead of inundating this page with questions about really basic, simple, intuitive things. - 19:11, 1 March 2015 (EST)

April Fools Day 2015
April Fools Day is in less than a month. I was wondering, am I allowed on that day to humorously change the News section, Did You Know section, and make edits that usually would be considered "vandalism?" Of course, I know there would be some boundaries on what is and what isn't acceptable, but I can think of some funny things to put on the front page. This may be a stretch, but maybe I could make some fake articles as well? I mean, we have done this in the past years... Andymii (talk) 17:20, 5 March 2015 (EST)
 * We're not planning anything this year, and even if we did, it wouldn't be open season for every random user to add random garbage. --Glowsquid (talk) 18:06, 5 March 2015 (EST)

Okay, then. Andymii (talk)

why was i banned from the forums?
as it says. i really don't know why i was banned? like i don't even get any form of warning or anythings beforehand? 01:02, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
 * You were banned for constant agrgessive behaviour toward other members, which is the reason you were permed in the first place. --Glowsquid (talk) 09:26, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
 * but that isn't FAIR, i wasn't acting aggressive at all! it says i was on thin ice but i was never informed i was on thin ice at all. i might as well just hurt myself now, since that was one of the few forums i gave a damn about 10:37, 15 March 2015 (EDT)
 * So is my ban appeal regarding my entirely unfair and justified ban going to be ignored? 04:04, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 * Don't try to appeal your ban on one venue by making a scene on another venue: if anything, dragging problems around the community is more likely to cement your original block and could get you in trouble elsewhere (i.e. here) as well. Also, you're wrong that you weren't warned, because you were told that you were on your last strike - over a year ago, when your original ban was graciously lifted. Littering the community hub with your personal problems worked out for you that time, surprisingly, but it looks like your luck's not going to change this time around, so please stop posting here. - 20:13, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 * That isn't FUCKING FAIR. ALL OF YOU ARE JUST TRANSPHOBES AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WAS BANNED! I BROKE NO RULES AND YOU ARE ALL JUST BIASED JERKS WHO BANNED ME TO GET RID OF A TRANSGENDERED USER. I MIGHT AS WELL JUST FUCKING KILL MYSELF BECAUSE YOU TRANSPHOBIC ASSHOLES DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYONE BUT YOUR GODDAMN FUCKING HETERONORMATIVE WORLD. 21:50, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 * So what's your explanation for all the other transgender people who are accepted members of our community? 22:03, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 * I doubt they would ban you for being transgender. Also, threatening suicide won't help, and please drop it, you were told that you were banned for constant aggressive behavior towards other members. .::Toadette::. (talk) 22:06, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
 * EXCEPT I wasn't being aggressive towards ANYONE! And why is it fair that other user's act like assholes and they don't get punished, but I do?!? IT'S NOT GODDAMN FAIR. And it's not threatening suicide, I will do it. 10:27, 25 March 2015 (EDT)

Oi, I'm trans and I'm helping run the bloody newsletter for this site; Turb is also trans and is an admin here. Everyone that's treated me like ass for being trans on the forums has been jumped on immediately and one even got banned for it. I know more than anyone else the kind of crap transfolk have to go through in society, I do, but don't use that card here, because it's absolutely not applicable. -Crocodile Dippy (talk) 01:58, 24 March 2015 (EDT)
 * Again, dragging forum drama onto the wiki is not acceptable, nor is the rest of your behaviour here, including making suicide threats, which we know to be hollow and something you have done on other websites as well. As you were told on your talk page, if you continue this, you will be blocked from the wiki. - 15:03, 25 March 2015 (EDT)
 * That TV Tropes account isn't me, but fine, block me, I don't give a shit anymore. I just wanted to have my ban lowered to a few months ban, but if you're all going to be unfair, then block me from this site. 00:02, 27 March 2015 (EDT)

So someone calls other people unfair after invoking transphobia and threatening suicide with the primary intent of influencing administrative action.

...sheesh, what a way to go. --Lord Grammaticus (talk) 13:29, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

Banner grammatical issue
Being the grammar police user I am, I can't help but notice that the banner on top of the wiki (the one saying "Issue XCVI of The 'Shroom has been released, be sure to check it out!") is a comma splice. Does anyone have any idea how to fix it? --Andymii (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

Shroob Planet Article - Glitch?
So I was in the article Shroob Planet and I opened "discussion" then I selected "article" and it redirected to this: http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Shroob_planet&action=edit&redlink=1

I don't know if this is a thing with my computer or with everyones, But can someone take a look at it?


 * The problem was that the article had been moved from "Shroob planet" to "Shroob Planet" but the talk page wasn't moved with it because there was already a redirect leading back to the lowercase talk page on "Talk:Shroob Planet", blocking the move (and when you clicked on the discussion from "Shroob Planet", you were redirected to the unmoved discussion of the deleted "Shroob planet" page). It's fixed now. - 12:46, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

Reverting joke news
I believe this should be done, what with the Nintendo Direct that is certain to have Mario game info. Laikue (talk | contribs) 17:19, 1 April 2015 (EDT)
 * We'll probably do it tomorrow. 17:19, 1 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Before any changes are done, let's wait until the Direct actually happens instead of speculating about what might happen.

So now we DO have April Fools news, directly contradicting what Glowsquid said a few posts above when I suggested helping (*sarcastic "hmph"* :P). Andymii (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Well obviously we weren't going to announce that we were going to do another prank this year. It kinda ruins the joke - like when people post "this is a joke". If you want to do something, PM one of us, but we actually plan these things for months (it's the one fun ting we do behind the scenes) so in all likelihood, the answer will be "no". It's our right to keep it in-house: alongside the Anniversary, it's the only real public stunt the wiki pulls so we need to ensure it's well done, and users striking out on their own can undermine our efforts, or otherwise get out of hand. The official stuff's being archived, but the unauthorized fake FA nomination will be deleted shortly, as we don't want a copycat trend setting in if we keep trying to do these events moving forward. We hope the users understand. - 22:20, 1 April 2015 (EDT)

Random article ?
Good Evening, Could you do it in the home page, let me explain:

1. Today, April, 11 2015, there Toadette, but tomorrow, there will be example: Bowser

2. I ask of Steven Shinn to ask is opinion so be accepted my idea.

3. I thank Porplemontage have created this wiki ! Captain Yoshi (Yes ?) 14:05, 11 April 2015 (EDT)


 * No. - 16:56, 11 April 2015 (EDT)


 * What ? No ? YoshiYellow-MK8.png Captain Yoshi (Yes ?)YoshiYellow-MK8.png  04:59, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
 * It's because you seem to have misinterpreted what this "random article" is. It's not just some random article someone got from hitting the random page button, it's actually one of our featured articles (the best ones on the wiki). These change weekly on a Saturday to the next FA in the queue. It's a system that's been done for years now, and it won't be changed to showcase some random article from the wiki.
 * Nor will a "random article" feature be added in addition to the FA. - 15:22, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Ah... Ok Captain Yoshi YoshiYellow-MK8.png 13:19, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

You may know this already, but if you really need a random article, there's always the Random Article button on the left. Andymii (talk) 18:18, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
 * ! Captain Yoshi YoshiYellow-MK8.png 10:27, 14 April 2015 (EDT)

New Mario Kart 8 Tracks
You're welcome. Aidan the  Aura Master  22:26, 14 April 2015 (EDT)

Do I really deserve it?
Over a year ago I [TVTrash] was banned from the forums because I didn't change my behavior within my original month long ban. I then realized I was an immature kid who whined because of someone else's opinion. I understand what I did was wrong and I am ready to move on. So with that being said, should I really be unbanned from the forums? 01:18, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
 * As was said in the last section complaining about forum bans, this is NOT the place to try and appeal forum bans. Ask the forum mods directly: don't post your personal problems on the wiki community hub. Walk away now, or you could get an official warning over it. - 12:35, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

Mario Kart track pictures
I've noticed that a lot of Mario Kart courses that are retro courses, use their old, original pictures. For example: Royal Raceway. The picture used for Royal Raceway is from the N64 version, but the MK8 is much better looking! I was just wondering if I should change all of them. I'm totally willing to update all those pictures.

KingKamek



The outdated pictures have to stay to show the original version. But the articles already have updated pictures in the gallery.

4 May 2015, 0:40

I just thinking to do it because the new pictures look much better, and the old pictures can be in the gallery. Does anyone else have an opinion? __________________________________________

Jacob, I saw what you did on Royal Raceway. I like it! Wanna work together to do to all the courses like that?

KingKamek


 * Yes 00:54, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

Yes

I've started working on it! Baby Luigi, you wanna help too? We putting the new image under the old image: here's an example Royal Raceway.

KingKamek


 * Stop. The infoboxes look bad with two images: your Royal Raceway example wasn't terrible because the one image is very narrow, but for situations like this, the infoboxes are getting way too elongated, and what's done for the Mario Kart courses also needs to be done for the Mario Party minigames for consistency, and same with any other recurring venues (i.e. SSB stages could have this issue too). The choice is solely between the new images, like how we use updated art for characters, species and items, or the old images, like how the original versions of games overrule remakes for game, level and world pages (hence World 1-1 (Super Mario Bros.) uses the original SMB screenshots rather than graphically shinier SMAS or NSMB2 shots). I feel that tracks and minigames recurring in later games is more like games being remade (instead of all the levels getting remade, it's just a select few), and so the original versions should stay in the infoboxes. - 15:35, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

Oh I see. I thought it would be better that way because when you look at the infobox, you would see the old version and the new version. I thought it would be more helpful to do that than scroll down to the gallery. I'm sorry. 17:47, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

I will tell you I am a nice guy. I will listen to whatever you say. So if you want me to stop adding the updated pictures, I will and promise myself not to do it again;) 17:58, 4 May 2015 (EDT)


 * Yeah, it's a good idea in theory, but sadly, not in practice. Thanks for understanding! - 23:25, 4 May 2015 (EDT)

Sorry Walkazo! Do you want us to fix the ones we changed?

KingKamek




 * Sure, thanks. - 10:18, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Cape Mario.
Someone keeps changing Cape Mario back to how it used to be, but Toa 95 made it a redirect. I changed it back to a redirect, but this person changed it back. Now Caped Mario and Cape Mario are identical. Someone help!

KingKamek




 * Just so you know it's generally better to discuss edit warring problems on either the page in question's talk page or by contacting the other user directly, and/or if they get nasty about it, check Whosonline (i.e. at the top of Special:RecentChanges) and contact an admin who's online to help you, rather than coming here. - 10:18, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Help
Someone named Torey is saying bad stuff on my talk page. Someone please help! User talk:Jacob Lott 00:21, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Sorry about that. The user's been blocked, and feel free to remove the flamey message he left you (usually, users can't remove others' comments, but you can if they are spam or personal attacks like in this case). But in the future, like I said in the above section, ask an admin directly if someone's trolling you, since this page is for discussing community matters, not fleeting vandalism. - 10:18, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

How feasible would this be?
I noticed that on the Team Fortress 2 wiki, some pages have embedded 3D models that can be interacted with using the cursor, how possible would it be to do something like that on this wiki? Binarystep (talk) 10:38, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Hmm I can't believe I missed this. Having such a feature would be beneficial though! I don't know how it can be implemented.... 01:36, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
 * Yeah, that would be nice if we could put 3D models into there, but I don't know the applications for that. Yet. 01:44, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
 * I dunno how possible or necessary it is, tbh; it depends on what sorta extension's needed (if one's needed), which is Porplemontage's call anyway. - 12:22, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

Mario Kart and Mario Party Infoboxes
I was wondering if I can put the "List of Mario Games by Date" in the Infoboxes for Mario Kart Courses or Mario Party Minigames. Sometimes I open up an article for a Mario Kart course or a Mario Party minigame not knowing how old it is. Can I start doing that or not? Heres an example of what I'm talking about: Mario Kart Stadium. If you see the year next to the game, it will be understandable of how old that level, course, or minigame is. Thank You so much! 17:10, 13 May 2015 (EDT)
 * While we don't put the dates in world/level articles, which are what racecourses/minigames(/microgames) are most similar to, I feel like it'd be a worth-while idea, at least for the racecourses since they do reappear in later games sometimes, whereas most mini/microgames are game-specific, like levels/worlds. (Of course, we do include dates for one-off character, species and items, but that's necessary for consistency with the recurring c/s/i subjects.) - 17:56, 13 May 2015 (EDT)

I am trying to do so but other users keep undoing them. But thank you so much for your permission, Walkazo! 22:22, 14 May 2015 (EDT)
 * You can also try making a Proposal about it, which will let other users know about it and will hopefully get them behind the idea, and should it pass, it would give you something a bit more solid to direct reverters to than just me informally saying "yeah sure". - 17:15, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

Subspecies
Seriously, good job to everyone who's pitching in with removing the subspecies, but since there are multiple editors, I'll ask this here; would it be possible to mark the edits as minor? Sure, something that's been on the wiki for years has been toppled, but there's a huge flood on the recent changes.
 * Well, we can do that if you really need it. Sorry for that, lol. XD 21:31, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
 * It's not extremely imperative or anything, but with all of these edits, the whole flood's rather cumbersome with no tags.

Main page layout issues
Hey, I'm using a 1280 x 1024 resolution, and the main page's layout seems to be weird. The Mario & Nintendo New and Did You Know columns are too scrunched, and the Did You Know section is sticking out from the bottom, leaving a giant blank space below the MarioWiki Newspaper section. I believe the Mario Awards poll is messing out the layout? If there is a better way to display it, please do so. Thanks! 17:54, 18 June 2015 (EDT)


 * Last year, the options were placed two-by-two, which worked much better. - 20:41, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it looks fine now. Thanks! 22:22, 18 June 2015 (EDT)

Deleting my account permanently
When I first signed up on this wiki, I should've had intelligence and look through special pages to see if every content was on the wiki. I don't seem to think things through. Now, I want my account permanently deleted. My name and middle initials are stuck here since you cannot delete accounts. Thanks to yall bitches, yall should've added a "Delete Account" feature. Yall bitches nedd to set things right, and get right to it. Shit, it's bothersome and I'm really mad. What the fuck is wrong with yall. You can delete the whole wiki or just delete my account: make it simple. I still want my account deleted, now get right to it! I don't give a fuck what you do, as long as my account is permanently deleted. I JUST WANT MY ACCOUNT DELETED NOW! Torey (talk) 01:00, 20 June 2015 (EDT)Torey
 * Just stop coming here. How hard is that? Just scramble your password if you insist. But that ranting and swearing are totally uncalled for. But no, your account can't get deleted. Period. 01:13, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
 * We will not delete your account in any circumstance. revealing your name is your liability, not ours and swearing like a prepubescent child when things don't go your way won't make your case stronger. If you want to go, just leave. 01:20, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

You do realize your hilariously inept temper tantrum is only going to draw more attention to the fact you're using your real name, and make you a more attractive target for trolls and stalkers? --Glowsquid (talk) 11:49, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

Trivia Question
How do you guys decide what trivia (among other things) is note worthy for the page? I tried putting a few bits of trivia on pages myself, only to find them deleted because "it wasn't good enough." Also, where do you pull the information from? Does the staff follow stuff like Did You Know Gaming? or do you prefer full articles like something from IGN? (Alex95 (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2015 (EDT))


 * Adding Trivia is actually discouraged: it's better to try and incorporating info into the body text of the article. Common Trivia points that get removed are things like coincidences, opinions and speculation, or stuff that's already in the article somewhere. Information comes from all sorts of different sources, and having citations to back up random factoids is one way to help make them wore worthy of inclusion. - 13:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT)

Truths about Mario coming from Miyamoto tomorrow
Miyamoto will be clearing up some myths about Mario tomorrow. Should be useful. 16:07, 9 September 2015 (EDT)

The New President
Tatsumi Kimishima has been set to become the new president of Nintendo after Iwata. His term starts on the 16th of September. Here's the link to his application: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150914e.pdf What say we wish him the best of luck when he comes to power, huh? (Alex95 (talk) 13:11, 14 September 2015 (EDT))

Spambot?
There are particular spambots such as ‎209.73.137.50, 209.73.137.50, etc. that keep on clogging up the page history (such as sanboxs) with crap edits only to revert them seconds later. Should we introduce a stronger captcha? 23:22, 15 October 2015 (EDT)

Is it possible to just get rid of them? They don't seem to be doing anything important and all these ones are doing is adding a bunch of = (Alex95 (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2015 (EST))
 * No, we can't. They change their IP dynamically and the only way to completely remove them is to remove IP editing rights altogether. A range block is only a temporary situation, but they'll just come back and continue spamming pages. All we could do is not revert their edits (they'll do it themselves), block each one, and hope they just stop editing altogether. 18:49, 1 November 2015 (EST)


 * This one is just... I don't even have the words for it... 212.162.177.96 (Alex95 (talk) 12:10, 3 November 2015 (EST))
 * This one isn't a spambot though. I'm talking about those that made a stupid minor edit and then quickly revert it with a sameish message. 13:48, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Mario Kart DS & Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection turned 10 years old today!
Today's Saturday, November 14, 2015 and Mario Kart DS & Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection turned 10 years old today! However, I was thinking that maybe we should have MKDS or Nintendo WFC as a featured article or something along those lines. --Michael (talk) 00:26, 14 November 2015 (EST)
 * Meh, the former was already featured in this rotation of featured articles while the latter isn't good enough to be FA quality, so we're not going to feature them based on their anniversary, just as we don't feature Super Mario Bros. on its anniversary. But happy anniversary regardless 01:40, 14 November 2015 (EST)

'Shroom centering
Is there any reason why the 'Shroom is moved over to the right on the front page, creating empty space under "Did You Know?" I was going to make a proposal about this, but I first need to make sure there aren't any technical reasons for the formatting. --Andymii (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2015 (EST)
 * I don't see what you mean. It's on the left side of the page on my computer. 22:09, 1 December 2015 (EST)
 * Methinks it's a typo, since he did mention an empty space under did you know which is on the right side. As for the shroom thing, I dunno if we can fix that. 22:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)

I mean left. --Andymii (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Huh? Looks fine to me (see right). - Reboot (talk) 22:15, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Most people have the poll expanded. I don't even know how it's not showing on yours. --Andymii (talk) 22:16, 1 December 2015 (EST)
 * Ah, that would be NoScript at work. I didn't even notice that it should be there... - Reboot (talk) 22:18, 1 December 2015 (EST)

It depends on the computer. Everything looks fine on yours except the poll. 22:22, 1 December 2015 (EST)

The idea is that the FA, Poll and 'Shroom on the left balance out with the News and DYK on the right; there's always a bit of space beneath one or the other, but it's generally pretty okay. The problem right now is that there's a lot of options in the Poll, and a lot of them are spilling into second lines (on my 1024 px screen, anyway), making it longer than usual (unless you have it collapsed) and shoving the 'Shroom box below the other side, making the unevenness noticeable. Aiming for less complex polls in the future could help improve it. - 22:24, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Sure, will do. --Andymii (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Ad placement
I'm not a fan of the ad placement in this wiki; the ad is placing inside main body of an article to the left of the content, so it creates a spacey, unsightly margin on the left side, so I'm tempted to leave adblock on (but even then, the margin remains) in case I do anonymous browsing. Is there a better place to put them? 16:03, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Question about Stubs
I know the point of them: They're meant to direct viewers and/or editors to help expand upon certain articles that need it. However, I've noticed that some articles don't need to be or can't be expanded upon. For example, one time appearances of items, characters, or locations... there isn't much to go of off. And what the games do give is pretty much already covered. I understand this wiki wants to provide the best coverage possible for Mario games, but sometimes, there just isn't anything to expand upon. Should we do some major checking on which articles actually need expanding upon and which ones we just can't expand on? (Alex95 (talk) 23:25, 5 January 2016 (EST))
 * If the article already includes everything there is about a subject, then it shouldn't be tagged as a stub. Stubs are not short articles, they are articles lacking information. Not all short articles are stubs. -- 23:37, 5 January 2016 (EST)
 * Yeah, articles that are small because there's minimal info available aren't stubs so long as they have all that info and are well-made. Those sorts of articles being tagged as stubs is a mistake, but rather than bringing it up here, the Wiki Collaboration board on the forums would be the best place to try and organize a sweep. - 23:39, 5 January 2016 (EST)
 * Alright, I'll get on that then and see what I can do. (Alex95 (talk) 23:57, 5 January 2016 (EST))

New Page Foresight
Is there a way to tell, when creating a new page, how many pages link to it? That way we can tell how much needed the page is? (Alex95 (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2016 (EST))
 * You can enter red links into Special:WhatLinksHere and get lists. Special:WantedPages also has a list of pages with red links leading there, in descending order from most to least links. In both cases, it includes links on templates, which then show up as links from every page the template's on, thus inflating the numbers. - 00:03, 7 February 2016 (EST)

Mushroom Arena
Why can't we have an arena (it doesn't have to be called Mushroom Arena) like the Donkey Kong Wiki and SmashWiki do?
 * We already have the polls on the Main Page and the Anniversary awards (and The 'Shroom just did an Ultimate Character Tournament, too). Personally, I feel like it'll just be an unnecessary extra thing we'll need to maintain on top of the polls, FAs and actual wiki matters. - 19:07, 29 February 2016 (EST)

statistics
Are there really 16,974 "articles" on this wiki? I think this includes disambiguation pages and the Main Page.

A gossip-loving Toad (talk) 04:46, 5 March 2016 (EST) (@Reboot: Hey, you're a Linux user too!)


 * Does it really matter? There's only 727 disambig pages, plus the one lone main page: really not that big of a difference from the number generated automatically via "NUMBEROFARTICLES". If it were counting redirects, sure, that'd be misleading, but the disambig pages being included as content isn't a problem. - 15:45, 5 March 2016 (EST)