Talk:Yoshi's Woolly World

"Yarn Yoshi"
I believe that this is the working title. On Nintendo America's official press site, it says that the name is not final. Something to look forward to I guess :)

05:27, 24 January 2013 (EST)

I don't think we should change the name, Game & Wario was a working title and we used the name. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 12:23, 24 January 2013 (EST)


 * Well of course we wouldn't change it if we don't know the final name yet :P


 * 20:03, 24 January 2013 (EST)

Indeed.ಠ_ರೃ Kingfawful4321 (talk) 10:22, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Actually, if you look at the original press release (alternate link) the only time they use the phrase "Yarn Yoshi" it isn't italicized like the other game titles. This doesn't appear to be the current working title. Deezer (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2013 (EST)

Is it just me or Yoshi is HUGE at this picture? http://www.mariowiki.com/File:YYWiiU2.png (compare the size of the arrow sign with this picture http://www.mariowiki.com/File:YY-Shy_Guy_Screenshot.png) It's what it looks like :O


 * Comparing Yoshi with the Shy-Guy, I think he does somehow become huge.: 20:00, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Maybe if he eat of enough Shy Guys. He becomes giant. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 20:00, 7 February 2013 (EST)

Playable characters
Is this really needed, I mean isn't it obvious that you're going to be able to play as Yoshi? I mean his name is in the title
 * Of course we still need it! There could be more than one playable character after all. - 22:13, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
 * It never hurts, so yeah. But we haven't gotten information in years (or that's how it feels like), so there's little incentive to change anything major. 22:15, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

2.5D?
What is 2.5D? Chaossy (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

2.5D (two-and-a-half-dimensional) is graphical art style with 2D and 3D elements. For example Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros. U are 2.5D games, characters moves in 2D while the backgrounds are 3D.

-- L    151   13:39, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Yoshi's three-dimensional form
Yoshi actually becomes an "amigurumi crochet form", not an "all-knitted form". He is definitely not knitted, but amigurumi crochet. :)

Cancelled!?
I wonder that Nintendo has showed no info. in this game! That either means they thought it was to early to be revealed or it's cancelled.


 * They said it was too early to show for E3, can't imagine it's the top of their priorities.


 * Wait a while: they could be completely revamping due to the negative comments it received when it was first revealed.


 * 23:06, 23 August 2013 (EDT)

Not cancelled & new name!
I e-mailed Nintendo to see if the Yoshi game was cancelled and here's what I got:

''Hi, I have a question: Last year, Yarn Yoshi for Wii U was announced on a Nintendo Direct. We haven't heard about it since. Was it cancelled or replaced by Yoshi's New Island? Thanks.''

''Hello, thank you for contacting Nintendo; I apologize for the delayed response to your email. I am happy to hear that you are excited for the release of a new Yoshi game. The game you were inquiring about is actually titled Yoshi Wii U. Yoshi Wii U has been officially announced for release, but hasn't been given a release date yet.''

Then they go on to talk about the Game Guide on their website to find more information about the game when it becomes available.


 * And that's all the evidence? 00:14, 1 April 2014 (EDT)


 * But the name appears provissionaly as Yarn Yoshi in the Supplementary Information about Earnings Release in January 2013 by Nintendo.co.jp! The Mushroom Kingdom explains it! And in Japanese is named Yarn Yoshi too (毛糸のヨッシー, Keito no Yoshi)!--77.228.198.87 09:26, 1 April 2014 (EDT)


 * The title could've changed since December and NoA is shown to change game titles from the original Japanese. (i.e. Mario Story becomes Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion 2 became Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon"). I know it doesn't seem like a final title at first, but we've had plenty like it in the past (many Mario Kart games were Mario Kart '').


 * This more recent document (January 2014) shows the provisional name of Yarn Yoshi for the U.S., Europe and Japan, and says it has a tentative date of TBD. Also, indicates that names and release date are subject to changes, and also subject to changes between countries.
 * So, what's the verdict? I'm leaning more toward "Yarn Yoshi" since getting your evidence from (automated) informal letters from Nintendo sounds sketchy to me. 16:46, 2 April 2014 (EDT)


 * Erm, the international title which was provided in the official press release was Yarn Yoshi. I'd wait for the next public statement from the Horse's Mouth: not an independant e-mail, before making significant changes such as this. But thats just me: feel free to continue your banter.


 * 07:55, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * But I don't agree with it, and I'd like to move it back because the burden of proof falls on the person who made the changes... and the person isn't lifting it well. 19:33, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * So while all this was going on, I thought I would also e-mail Nintendo (the address is Nintendo Consumer Service, noa@nintendo.com), and this is the reply I received: "Hello, (my name). Thank you for your patience awaiting a response during this busy time of year. I sincerely apologize for the delay as we have been experiencing high email volumes recently. To answer your question, the recently announced Yoshi game for the Wii U is currently labeled Yoshi Wii U (Working Title). This will be subject to change as the development on this game continues. When an official title is selected, the details will be posted on our website, so I encourage you to check back regularly for any available updates. Thank you again for your time and patience. Sincerely, Nintendo of America Inc. Teresa Fisher" 15:31, 10 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Sounds very automated, and I don't think it really changes anything. 22:20, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Mario's right, it does sound a bit automated. It still isn't official news, so I think we leave it until later. - 00:04, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Release date confirmed.
I think this is reliable, but I am not sure. Yarn Yoshi is on the list. Just copy past this into a search box. http://nintendonews.com/2014/05/nintendo-digital-event-e3-2014-games-list/ Toadbrigade5 (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
 * It's likely just a rumour, wait for an official confirmation from Nintendo.
 * Yeah, now I relize that. There were a lot of games that nintendo hasn't even spoken about...

Nintendo Email
As I have previously done with Toad's article, here is the information given to me by Samanatha Perry from Nintendo of America in an email. Due to the layout of the email, I strongly believe it was not a form letter, but indeed Samantha Perry.

The email claims that all she has heard about Yarn Yoshi is rumors, and there are no official announcements referring to it (I don't know how true this is, it's possible that she just works in customer service and doesn't have much information). The email includes that they cannot share any information about the game not already being revealed.

That said, she did not mention the Yoshi Wii U title, and stuck to referring to it as Yarn Yoshi. While she did not confirm that the game is real (as mentioned above), the way she spoke strongly implied "Yeah you're not supposed to know about this yet...". However, if it is indeed not announced and there are only rumors, this means Yoshi Wii U, if it exists, could be a separate game that does indeed exist, and that Yarn Yoshi never did exist.

The information was as follows:

2) While I have heard the rumors regarding a game titled "Yarn Yoshi" or "Yoshi Wii U," we haven't made any official announcements regarding this game. That said, there are countless websites on the Internet that post Nintendo news and information. Many of these independent websites take the liberty of posting news based on rumors, speculation, or assumptions -- and that is just fine. We understand that Nintendo fans are eager for as much new information as possible! We often hear from excited fans asking if a particular game is going to be announced.I don't want to dampen any excitement you may feel about the idea of a "Yarn Yoshi" Wii U game, but I want to make it clear that until we make an official announcement about a particular game, we have nothing to share about it-regardless of any rumors you may have heard or announcements from Nintendo subsidiaries elsewhere in the world. If or when we do make an official announcement about Yarn Yoshi, we will be sure to share all of the exciting details on our website (www.nintendo.com). Until that happens, however, we appreciate your patience and ask that you keep an eye on our website for any announcements or updates.

I'm not sure how to take this, but here is a screenshot of the information:

So is Yarn Yoshi simply a rumor? Is it fake? I don't know- opinions? Peanutjon (talk) 15:53, 9 June 2014 (EDT)

I'm fairly certain due a trailer the game is real. And like you said, she seems to stick with the name Yarn Yoshi the most, so it's logical to think that is its current name, especially since no official sources are disputing that and I believe the trailer used Yarn Yoshi.

TPP: Are enemies different from yarn enemies?
Now that we have some actual footage of this game, I was watching it and wondered if yarn enemies should be considered separate from regular enemies (e.g. is a Koopa Paratroopa the same as a Yarn Koopa Paratroopa or are they different enemies). I think that we should clear this up now before content is loaded onto the an enemy page only to be decided yarn enemies are different. Though I have no strong feelings for one side over another, I am leaning towards they are separate because they (obviously) look different from their usual appearance, and attack and move differently. When Super Mario 3D World came out, we created separate articles for cat forms of creatures, like the Cat Bullet Bill, and those enemies looked different from their usual appearance and acted slightly differently, just like yarn enemies. I believe that they are sparate, but I think we should settle this now with a proposal.

Proposer: Deadline: 24 June 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal

Oppose

 * 1) The reason why Tail Goomba is split from Goomba is because a Tail Goomba is a Goomba that has previously come in contact with a Super Leaf. The same instance applies to Bullet Bills and Cat Bullet Bills. You might be referring to the paper enemies from the Paper Mario series, however, they happen to remain merged, for lots of reasons. Therefore, we should keep the enemies merged.
 * 2) – They're clearly meant to be the same enemies, and they don't have any differences other than being made of yarn. By this logic, we would split Paper Mario from Mario.
 * 3) Having played Kirby's Epic Yarn, a similar-styled game of Yoshi's Woolly World, I consider the characters as normal enemies. Kirby = Kirby, Waddle Dees = Waddle Dees, Meta Knight = Meta Knight, and so on. The world is a different art style, that's all. Per Misty on the Paper Mario thing.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Differences in art style do not merit a merge. Per all.
 * 6) Per Baby Luigi. And everyone else.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Per Mario. If we did this, we would need to make Paper Goomba. Per Misty on that.
 * 9) Per all, for now. Suggest revisiting after the game has been released.

Comments
I would suggest waiting until the game is released. In Kirby's Epic Yarn, the Yarn Waddle Dees are fakes created by Yin-Yarn. If YWW has a similar plot, then yes. Until then it's just an artistic design. (But I'm not voting, cuz I have no opinion till it's released.) Peanutjon (talk) 20:36, 12 June 2014 (EDT)
 * They may be fakes, but they're still Waddle Dees, per se. If somebody like Tabuu was responsible for creating those Goombas, they'd still be Goombas. 19:45, 15 June 2014 (EDT)
 * They are described as "Yin-Yarn made these imposters! They look just like the real ones!" (the Waddle Dees). They are referred to as "imposters" and have a different appearance (despite the description, Waddle Dees appear in non-yarn style next to the yarn Waddle Dees when Dedede is kidnapped). Thus they are separate. If the yarn enemies are the same (whoever the villain is creating fake Shy Guys in yarn style), it would not be the same as Tabuu creating a Goomba (since these Goombas would look identical and act identical and basically be identical). This may not be a reason to create a separate page (as they have no info that is separate from ordinary Shy Guys or whatever besides appearance. Additionally every existing Kirby Wiki that isn't noob-filled combines Waddle Dees with Fake Waddle Dees). But, if they are revealed to be separate creatures, I will start a proposal to separate (if this one doesn't separate), even though it probably shouldn't be. Peanutjon (talk) 16:49, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
 * So, if the only tangible difference is their origins....that still doesn't merit a split. We have this article on the wiki, though the former ghost was created by that Van Gore ghost...that still doesn't merit their own separate page. You're also basing this off looks. By this logic, you'd want to split the Goombas from Paper Mario, who not only look different but actually behave differently (they headbonk you and they take more than one stomp to dispatch them in typical cases). 17:05, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
 * That has nothing to do with what I said...? 1)I said that it doesn't deserve its own page because it's effectively the same 2) Again, I said it doesn't deserve its own page 3)No, I am not, I'm basing it off of origins and looks, because it appears different and was created as a clone. Besides, I said it doesn't deserve its own page 4)How did you even get that I implied that's the same situation??? Goombas in that game are graphic choices. In Kirby's Epic Yarn it was not the same way- Yin-Yarn created them as doppelgangers. And, not to be redundant, I SAID IT DOESN'T DESERVE ITS OWN PAGE. Peanutjon (talk) 22:49, 19 June 2014 (EDT)

Chomp Rock
It's in a screen shot. Near the castle.