Talk:Mario Kart 8

More Content
More content, such as hands-on video, showcasing three courses and gameplay and the Wii U Developer Direct, which revealed Miiverse, replays and another new course is available on the Mario Kart Wii forums. Webkinz Mania (talk) 16:56, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Mario Kart TV Reference?
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn08 E3.png In this photo I've posted above, if you look under the 5th colored flag from the left under the Mario Kart sign, it looks like there is a television truck that says Mario Kart on the side, and if you watch the trailer, and pause at the right moment, you can see it clearly. So, I think Nintendo is referencing their new feature inside the game quietly? What about you? Oh and sorry for the super-large photo, but you have to have it big to notice the truck anyway! Also I'm not talking about television referencing, I'm talking about the Miiverse feature called Mario Kart TV. --BlueYoshi211 21:49, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

2 laps?
I watched some GameExplain videos and in both of the 2 demo tracks they played the 2 courses had 2 laps, and they weren't long like Wario Coliseum. Is 2 laps a standard feature or is it just because of the demo?
 * I'm pretty sure it is because of the demo, since the Mario Kart 7 demo also had two laps instead of the usual three. --- 17:10, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
 * Just noting, but it has 3 courses, but Andre has only uploaded videos of two of them at this moment. --BlueYoshi211 21:38, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Yup, it has 3 courses. In the final version, there will be more!

All of these are...
All of the photos that follow are all from Mario Circuit, that means the 8-shaped track is it, and if you may've noticed the track with Peach's Castle is the same as the 8-shaped track. Photos are as follows: (--BlueYoshi211 22:00, 11 June 2013 (EDT))

Does this count?
Sorry to set of bob-omb (he, humorous word play) but the anti-gravity racing thing was done years ago in Crash Nitro kart, much to disappoint that this game offers nothing really new, but being a pain aside would this count as trivia? - Cubeguy(talk)
 * It's a new gimmick for the Mario Kart series, at least. 00:14, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
 * Yes but is it able to go in trivia? - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * Its not Mario Related. - BlueYoshi211

Suits of Armor
With the suits of armour on th e haunted house level, the ones with the giant hammers that try to crush passing racers, would they be counted as non-playable? - Cubeguy(talk)
 * That or make a new section for obstacles.

Reference in new track
Isn't the track with sweets similar to the Sugar Rush track as seen in the movie Wreck-It Ralph?
 * Don't think so, as we have had a a sweet-themed course before 19:17, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
 * I see where you're going ever since Mario was mentioned quite a lot in the movie, plus Bowser was there too. I'm starting to think Nintendo is starting to blend Mario and Wreck-It-Ralph. Anyway it does look an awful lot like Sugar Rush.


 * Wait, you forgot Tart Top, it's not just Cookie Land, since Tart Top is sweet-themed. --Meinfoo22 (talk) 20:54, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

I really did not think that Mario was mentioned a whole lot in the movie- in fact, I really did not hear of him but once in the movie! I do not think that they are blending the two together- that would cause too much contradictery- I do, however, like the idea of the candy-themed tracks. I love Tart Top and Cookie Land, and putting a candy track would really expand the sweet themed tracks!

-ToadBoy1999


 * He was only mentioned once, so I don't think that puts Wreck-It Ralph on the table yet. For now, I think it's just a sweets course whose creation may have been influenced by Sugar Rush. MarioComix (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2013 (EDT)

True Dat! -ToadBoy1999

Parts Confirmed
Wouldn't it be possible to start adding a list of parts. We can't necessarily name what the karts are, but we know what some of the wheels are. In Nintendo's Mario Kart 8 Trailer I have noted the appearance of standard, monster, and slim wheels on both karts and bikes.


 * I understand what your getting at here. But it was never actually stated that customization would return this time. Also the vehicles shown all stay the same. Until more info is dropped we really shouldn't make a list for parts. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * In the demo, you can play only a set combination. I'm certain that this feature will return, as I saw Wario driving a standard kart with large wheels while other characters drive a standard kart with smaller wheels. 19:18, 15 June 2013 (EDT)


 * I know what your saying and I think that would be a good idea for now. However, if you compare the karts and bikes throughout the video you can specifically note the monster (ex: wario, daisy, waluigi), standard (ex: mario, yoshi, donkey kong), and slim (ex: peach, luigi (the slim tires do have a new design which I prefer to the old version)). Along with the conclusion of coins I am also highly confident that the customization feature will return (and I really liked that idea, mix it up a little.....or a lot).

had some free time lolol xd

Dry Dry Desert or just a desert track?
I've watched the trailer quite a few times now and the desert track doesn't seem to look like Dry Dry Desert much. The screenshots we have also don't show much of the track so we don't have much proof of it being Dry Dry Desert. Should we just change it to a desert track possibly being Dry Dry Desert?
 * I think that's be best, I mean to me it more resembles Dry Dry Ruins from what I've seen because of the falling pillars. So it'd be better to have it a desert course.
 * Its missing many things from Dry Dry Ruins to be that track, but it does have features of Dry Dry Desert, though the original course doesn't have falling pillars, if it is not a new course, which it may be a new course, it is probably a new feature of the track like how Nintendo has added glide ramps to the retro courses in Mario kart 7.
 * I did watch gameplay footage of the original Dry Dry Desert and it looks very similar to the start of the course, but with the falling pillars I really don't know.

I took these photos of the track from the trailer and I don't see much of a reseblence to Dry Dry Desert. While there are some similarities, I still don't think it's the course.


 * I think it's Dry Dry Desert. After all, it's appearing as a retro course. --Meinfoo22 (talk) 20:50, 18 July 2013 (EDT)



I think it Might Be Wii's Dry Dry Ruins, seeing that the falling pillars seem to return. I am not saying this is true, however- Nintendo hasn't said a word about it.

-ToadBoy1999

I agree. It does look a lot like that course.

I found a clue that maybe confirm if it is Dry Dry Desert, in the image below in the photo of Mario Kart 8 if you look closely, on the right side we can see the two statues that are after the quick sand (picture below ) also have the same shape, I hope this has helped a little.



I also saw those in Mario Kart Wii's Dry Dry Ruins.

This is a link to a photo I just saw: on the right hand side, you can see a falling pillar like the ones on Wii's Dry Dry Ruins!! http://www.google.com/imgres?biw=1024&bih=616&tbm=isch&tbnid=SMbfx4ffz5_eQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/30562-mario-kart-8-video-trailer-immagini-e-nuovi-dettagli-da-nintendo.htm&docid=hJ5REpcZhxvEjM&imgurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/wp-content/gallery/mario-kart-8/e3-2013-nintendo-direct-mario-kart-8-017.jpg&w=2560&h=1440&ei=VkhMUqvCPMnirQH-rYCIBg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=407&page=4&tbnh=149&tbnw=266&start=45&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:59,s:0,i:268&tx=123&ty=60

-ToadBoy1999
 * In the original track there are pillars that are already fallen in a similarly winded area, so it's likely something new they're adding on. MarioComix (talk) 22:24, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

Sorry im late lost my car keys...what? Nothing! Anyway, i saw this and decided to find "similarities" that may support it being the Gamecube version, First may i point out the wii version does not have such corners, secondly they seem to match with the gamecubes version albiet background redsigns and graphic updates make it a bit harder to work out. To sum up theres a %10 chance of it being the wii version a %20 chance of being the Gamecube version and a %70 chance of being a new track altogether. Also i would recommend, from here on out suspending discussions of unknown tracks from screenshots unless it can be strongly confirmed it is the said track. For these always end with this phrase in some way *ahem* Until more about the (subject being) track is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. Also this particular discussion has gotten pretty long, and yes iv written a lot too it just now. So until more about the track or game is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. - Cubeguy(talk)   BOO!! ^w^

So should we keep Dry Dry Desert listed on the article or change it to "Unnamed desert track"?


 * It should be changed to unknown desert track until it can be fully proven what it is. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)   BOO!! ^w^


 * I 100% officially agree that it is GCN Dry Dry Desert, especially now with what MarioYoshi2 said above. -BlueYoshi211 20:09, 28 October 2013 (EDT)


 * How come it now lists GCN Dry Dry Desert under retro courses? There has been no real evidence. However, the fact that it was not shown in the Nintendo Direct with the other Nitro Courses, then this may be a hint that it is Dry Dry Desert.

-Yoshi dude44

In the newest trailer, there's a poster with Toad and a picture of a desert scene and if you look closely it says "Dry Dry Desert." Seems like pretty good evidence to me. (TheWoody322)

Maybe it's a new Dry Dry Desert. They do not show retro course pictures on nitro courses.

I noticed that those statues are also on Dry Dry Ruins as well. they aren't that hard to find- THEY ARE AT BOTH THE STARTING LINE AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PYRAMID!!!

-ToadBoy1999

yes I know, but look at your location and compare them.





clearly do not match because the statues of Dry Dry Ruins are attached to a wall. while that of Mario Kart 8 is not attached to any wall and are located just after the curves as Dry Dry Desert. moreover, in Sunshine Airport and it was shown that Dry Dry Desert comes back as there is a sign with Toad and a desert that says Dry Dry Desert

Again, I feel it should be removed once more, mainly for the same reason we're not labeling the nitro tracks. The latest trailer showed nothing of any retro tracks and like the nitro tracks, we shouldn't rely on Sunshine Airport as a source. Even with the small similarities, there still isn't enough proof that this track is Dry Dry Desert.

Maybe they are really unattached. The Wii couses might of gotten thicker.

but which there is the entrance to the ruins is really too LOGICAL there is NO ENTRACE. Now look at the image, comparing those statues with GCN Dry Dry Desert also going exactly the same way the same curves is more than true that this track is GCN Dry Dry Desert. Also because reason would put the name of this track in Sunshine Airport? use the logic.

Sorry -______- I did read that wrong. you guys were right...Sorry for the trouble.

-ToadBoy1999

Points
I saw this on the Mario Kart Wii forum: http://www.mariokartwii.com/f105/points-per-position-118357.html -- It has the points per position from 1-12. Webkinz Mania (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
 * I've seen this points system before, when I was at the Nintendo experience Best Buy event. But yeah, it's different from Mario Kart Wii's one. 14:58, 19 June 2013 (EDT)

Controls
The guy in the developer direct said you can play with the Wii Wheel and Wii Remote/Nunchuck. Where do I put this?


 * I think we just wait until we put up a controls section in the article, then list the controls for the Wii Remote and Nunchuck.

They can do Wheelies
Really? Racers(in this game) who have bikes CAN do wheelies. WATCH THE NINTENDO DIRECT AND YOU'LL FIND IT HERE!!!
 * If you had a link to a video showing wheelies please share it then. MarioComix (talk) 02:08, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

in the nintendo direct http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D1I5s236o I've seen a Princess Peach do a wheelie in the minute 10:15 and at 10:20
 * So far it's only happened when she gets a speed boost from something like a mushroom. For now I don't think they can actually do wheelies manually like in Mario Kart Wii. MarioComix (talk) 21:17, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * If anyone is willing to capture a screenshot, I would believe this but, in the Direct at the said time, I only see Peach drifting. So until further notice I do not believe that bikes can not do wheelies, and can go into second tier. BlueYoshi211(talk)

I would say they would have to include wheelies in the game, othewise the motorcycles would be just go- karts with only 2 wheels!

-ToadBoy1999

Further evidence, at the very beginning of the neon track we see Mario do a wheelie, and Wario wheelies in the GBA Mario Circuit.MKguy7 (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2014 (EST)

Leaked release date
I read on a site that Nintendo leaked the release date to be April next year. I have the link, but I want to know if it's a reliable source. http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/01/nintendo-accidently-reveals-april-release-date-for-mario-kart-8-3863653/


 * Delayed response: it's best if we wait for an official, public announcement of the release date.


 * 05:49, 27 August 2013 (EDT)


 * That was accidental? In that case I don't think we should follow it. As YK said we shouldn't add a release date until it's revealed officially. 06:09, 27 August 2013 (EDT)

I was doing some reading online and all of the websites that I looked up the info on say the same thing that Tails 777 said.

-ToadBoy1999

GBA Cheese Land?!?
I have been hearing rumors about them bringing back GBA Cheese Land. I also heard that they are bringing back the rosters from Mario Kart Wii & 7. Is this true? Please tell me if you do know!

-ToadBoy1999

Where did you find these rumors?

Nintendo Life.com.

-ToadBoy1999

Since they have not been proven we cannot edit Retro course content.

Thanks! -ToadBoy1999

Supported controllers.
According to the E3 Nintendo Direct, and also Wikipedia, Mario Kart 8 seems to support Wii Remote + Nunchuck, and the Wii U Pro Controller, along with the ones listed.

Double Dash mode
People seem to misinterpret the whole "Double Dash" idea from this interview:

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206829

But they said this: "For Mario Kart 7, and 8, we decided not to use it." so that basically means it's deconfirmed. 18:26, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

References section
Does the game having 12 players really count as a reference to MKW? We must be pretty desperate to fill that section. 142.161.163.120 14:56, 5 October 2013 (EDT)


 * Personally, it shouldn't be a reference to the game. Mario Kart 8 is on a home console that can fit more in games than the previous one so it makes sense that Nintendo would do that so it should be removed.

New Track Names
In the beginning of the new Mario Kart trailer in a scene at the airport, and in a second scene moments after, "destinations" are listed on a screen that are probably just course names. Also the name of the airport in the new trailer is "Sunshine Airport." So if it's anything like Coconut Mall (In which the course was named after its location) then that course will probably be called Sunshine Airport.

(thewoody322)
 * Cloudtop Cruise - definitely the new cloud/battleship course
 * Thwomp Ruins - the "ruins" course with Thwomps (duh) (probably the same one they showed off at E3 too)
 * Sweet Sweet Canyon - the sweet-themed course we saw today and back at E3
 * Bone Dry Dunes - probably the desert-esque course seen with part of Dry Bowser's head in it
 * Dolphin Shoals - not sure but a shoal is pretty much a sandbar near an ocean so I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this one yet
 * Shy Guy Falls - Sounds like it could be water-related, but not sure since we have't seen anything that this might be
 * This is sadly not a confirmation or a fact however, just a huge hint. This may be better to keep in the trivia section, or not at all, for now. Koopalmier (talk) 15:32, 18 December 2013 (EST)
 * Nintendo is great at showing new things for only a split amount of time, and Sweet Sweet Canyon is also shown in one of the posters just like Dry Dry Ruins in the Sunshine Airport course. So I'm adding it as the track's name. - BlueYoshi211

Confirming the real names of tracks
This is bugging me. I don't see how names listed in the airport track confirm the names of other tracks. Sure the names are convenient to the tracks confirmed, but I don't feel that's the best source we have. Nintendo themselves never said this was true and it's an AIRPORT track, for all we know, they could be names placed there as eye candy. I think it's best to wait until a more official source can confirm this.


 * I didn't personally add the names to the actual page (and I know it isn't fully official) but those names are way too close to be just a coincidence --TheWoody322


 * Even so, it's still better to wait until something more official is said about them. No matter how convenient it is, it's speculation never the less. You said it yourself, you don't know if it's officially confirmed therefore we should wait.


 * I was never saying with that comment that we shouldn't wait, I was just stating I'm pretty sure it's more than just "eye candy." --TheWoody322
 * They may be real names, but the problem is attributing these names to the tracks. I think it would be wise to just wait a little longer. 17:25, 19 December 2013 (EST)

Release date pushed or for a different region
http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=news&nid=3097

This article stats that Mario Kart 8 will be released in autumn 2014. Now does this pertain to all regions, one or another or is it some mistake since Nintendo claimed it would be released in spring 2014 in the Nintendo Direct itself.
 * According to GameFAQs, AU had a TBA date in its place while other areas already have a Spring date. So I think it applies only to Australia. 00:07, 22 December 2013 (EST)

Dry Dry RUINS. Not Dry Dry Desert.
I have noticed falling pillars and the Yoshi Sphinx. Throughout the footage I can find, these are characteristics of Dry Dry Ruins on the Wii version, and not Dry Dry Desert on the Gamecube version. However, I could be wrong, as I have truly never played Double Dash. However, a majority of retro courses don't change many large things, and the pillars do have some significance. If anyone could help me, that'd be great. --CompliensCreator (talk) 20:22, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * There is a poster in the Sunshine Airport course that has Toad with a desert track, showing the characteristic curvy part in Dry Dry Desert. As well, the poster is labelled Dry Dry Desert. MarioComix (talk) 21:20, 30 December 2013 (EST)

falling pillars is simply a new feature that they have given to the track and there is not any Yoshi sphinx in any of the image.

New Reference?
Guys, I heard Sweet Sweet Canyon's music and some parts of it were a remix of Super Mario Land's music! Should this be added?


 * Well, where did you hear it? DK Fan

I really did hear it. In the trailer. All of the songs of the tracks play while they show. They are loud enough to hear.


 * If I remember correctly the trailer had music from past games rather than the new one.

No, it wasn't music from old games. I'd recognize them if they were.((User|Yoshi_dude44))
 * I hope it's not. I've never heard it before, but I might be wrong because I never really heard Paper Mario music. --MasterSkymning (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2014 (EST)
 * Besides, he didn't even specify what level the music is supposed to be from PS It's not a remix by any way or means 21:05, 10 February 2014 (EST)

Watch out for potentially BETA features.
After thinking about it, I have decided that it is quite possible that the 2 player vertical split-screen has a good chance of not making it to the final game just like what happened for Mario Kart 64.


 * If that's the case it'll be taken off the article and moved to the beta elements page when the game is released.
 * The splitscreen is supposed to take advantage of HD TV's tendencies to be very wide. I doubt it would go as a beta element. Furthermore, I wouldn't make this call when the game is still far from being released and what you saw is only a demo. Should the two lap characteristic become an early element? No. 13:31, 22 January 2014 (EST)

I saw another one. In the first trailer Thwomp Ruins had a brighter sky and less clouds.
 * How do you know it's not just a moving sky or a different location? Also, how's the overall brightness between the two screenshots? Honestly, I'd wait until the game is released and devoured. 19:06, 22 January 2014 (EST)

I looked carefully in both trailers.

Mario Kart 8 DATED
I was on mariopartylegacy.com and I saw that Nintendo FINALLY dated Mario Kart 8. They said it is to be released in May.--Mario234 (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2014 (EST)

Is there an EXACT date?

-ToadBoy1999
 * Nope. Not yet anyway. 14:49, 12 February 2014 (EST)

Tick Tock Clock?
Alright, I saw it added to the page and removed, but I have noticed a few things, including the pendulum and the two sets of gears near the end. Pause at 1:38 to see. Honestly, I think we have fair proof that this stage may be back. I have practically memorized the course, from how many times I've played it, and the turns, power-up locations, pendulum, and gears all seem to have a solid confirmation of this track. CompliensCreator (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2014 (EST)
 * I don't know, what if it just has a similar layout? I mean, the course received a radical change if that's the case, to the point where it is unrecognizable. 18:20, 13 February 2014 (EST)


 * Several sections look similar though, namely the part going around the giant clock with large hands. Also look at these - 1 2 - The gears seem to match that of Tick Tock Clock's, and the starting line is seen just ahead. --SM64DSMK (talk) 18:22, 13 February 2014 (EST)

in the minute 0:13 can be clearly seen the part of the clockwise(just look at the floor). just look at the background is the same. this but the comment above confirms that Tick Tock Clock also see all the retro tracks are all quite drastically changed.

Cheep Cheep Lagoon
Shouldn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon be listed as a retro track? It's in the trailer! Also, I think that Shy Guy Falls was in trailer. It was that "driving on water on a waterfall" track. User: Yoshi_dude44


 * Where and when did it appear? I didn't see it once and I've watched the trailer like 15 times estimating.

I think it appears from 00:19 to 00:21. User:Yoshi_dude44

Wait, just looked. It isn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon. My mistake. User: Yoshi_dude44

Mario Kart 8 ESRB Rating
The ESRB has rated Mario Kart 8, it will be rated E for Everyone with Mild Cartoon Violence, as see on the offical NA site
 * Tanks a Lot for the reminder. I thought it was Comic Mischief as in the trailer but w/e 00:58, 14 February 2014 (EST)

The Neon Color Track
With the sign that says "Larry Lights", that means it is called what is on the sign.


 * That's speculation territory: we don't allow that 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)

Quads = Karts ?
are Quads as karts classified ? --Kamek33 (talk) 09:20, 14 February 2014 (EST)
 * We don't know if they're more related to karts or bikes yet or if they're their own category 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)

I'm sure I remember Iwata mentioning during the December Nintendo direct that buggys are a new vehicle type. Either way, Rosalina is wearing her biker suit next to a buggy in the new artwork --GThing (talk) 13:06, 14 February 2014 (EST)

Look what I found on Nintendo.com
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/nIqDtjbbh-_yTuGh_LJZ0CSnykwrmji3/Ryk8ifgqkHePkBqTZcbW_NF5YB2oMJER.png

Funny thing, and it should be in a trivia section, it will have a red case, instead of the usual blue


 * Nice catch. It seems to be NA exclusive if that's the case 22:56, 14 February 2014 (EST)
 * The banner still seems to be blue though. LuigiMK8.png is Weegee's Year!PM2 Emerald Star.PNG

New Course?
Unfortunately, I have no screenshot, but in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC0y07goqWs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ at 0:50 it shows a new course. Should this be added?MKguy7 (talk) 11:25, 15 February 2014 (EST)
 * Yes, make sure to use the reference when you put it into the article.

That's Dolphin Shoals, with the dolphins in the background.

Neon lights course in Star Cup
Check the trailer, on the yellow banner in the neon lights course it shows "Star Cup". I think it should be added to the article that it's in the Star Cup. 12:43, 16 February 2014 (EST)


 * We don't add Star Cup for Sunshine Airport, same should be said here. Though I do agree that the course is most likely to be a Star Cup course, it's still veering on speculation which we don't allow on the wiki. Hard proof is what we want. 14:09, 16 February 2014 (EST)

Track Names Confirmed?
GameXplain released another analysis video about the new tracks shown in the latest trailer. They analyzed the track names that seem to fit with the theme. Like there is the waterfall track with shy guys everywhere, seems like Shy Guy Falls. And that screenshot of the dolphin underwater track also was in the trailer for 3 secs could be called Dolphin Shoals. And the Water Park in the trailer with Wario Wheel and Sub Coaster has an ad in the Sunshine Airport that says Water Park, also a mailbox in the track itself says Water Park. So shouldn't we at least put "possibly (posible track name)" at the end of every Nitro track listed on the page?
 * No because possible is a speculative term and we don't allow speculation.
 * We're not risking adding speculative names from Sunshine Airport. If it's not officially confirmed, then we won't add it, no matter how much grasping at straws we are. End of story. 14:07, 16 February 2014 (EST)
 * Whatever it's going to end up being officially confirmed anyway.

Wheelies
The article says that bikes are unable to perform wheelies but in the beginning of the Koopalings trailer Mario does a wheelie off the starting line.


 * Is he doing a boost? Because whenever I see a wheelie, it's followed after a boost. 13:38, 17 February 2014 (EST)

It could be from a boost because he was at the starting line.


 * Yes, I'm sure it's just a boost. LuigiMK8.png is Weegee's Year!PM2 Emerald Star.PNG