Talk:Urchin

Can someone please upload a pic of urchin from mario galaxy?

Split Mega Urchin and Mini Urchin from Urchin
SPLIT 5-0

I don't understand why these two things are merged because while it is true that they are in fact just bigger and small versions of Urchins they both have what I believe are official names (QUICK SOMEONE WITH A PRIMA GUIDE FOR NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII AND NSMB2 CONFIRM THIS) and they both show differences from regular Urchins because unlike Urchins which swim and roll both of these (I believe) don't move at all. I would also like to add that we have pages for smaller types of enemies like Micro Goomba and bigger types of enemies like Colossal Paratroopa so I fail to see why these pages should be treated differently.

Proposer: Deadline: October 5, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Split both

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) Per them.
 * 4) – Per proposal.
 * 5) Yes, it's Mini Urchin alright (though I don't have the NSMBW guide so I can't check that one). But I still say let's-a-split them. Per all.

Unira
According to the article, the Japanese name for these guys is Unira. I realize that, other than being sea urchins, they don't really look the same, but Unira is also the name of the sea urchins from Clu Clu Land. Is mentioning this noteworthy for the article? -- 1337star (Mailbox SP) 17:30, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Two kinds in SMW
Theres some that move on walls and some that go in straight lines. 24.187.191.151 00:16, 23 February 2013 (EST)

Split Urchin and Red Urchin
Red Urchins need an article for itself not to redirect to Urchins

^^^Who are you and why exactly is this split necessary? Red Urchins are just a palette swap after all. SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 04:59, 23 August 2015 (EDT)

Super Mario Galaxy Oddities
Super Mario Galaxy Urchins may not be the same enemy. According to the Super Mario Galaxy section of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros., their name is actually 「ウニゾー」 (126), or Unizō, and they have a land variant called 「陸ウニゾー」 (128), or Riku Unizō. Oddly enough, in the Super Mario Galaxy 2 section of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros., their name was changed: 「ウニラ」 (159) for the underwater version and 「陸ウニラ」 (161) for the land version, instead matching the usual Unira (Urchin). The former is further supported by the game files of both, where "Unizo" and "UnizoLand" are separate objects. It seems as though they were originally intended to be separate species, at least before Super Mario Galaxy 2 material. If nothing else, this is grounds for splitting the land counterpart, so the question is whether to split one or both. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:59, 9 December 2017 (EST)
 * I've always noted they look distinctly different from other versions, having a different array of spikes and a face that isn't in the ":o" expression the other ones have, not to mention the more aggressive behavior....heh, at this point, maybe the old wiki's slapping "cosmic" on the front of every SMG enemy for differentiation was a bit more accurate than it seemed.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:00, 15 January 2018 (EST)
 * An update on this situation: I've since checked out the internal files of New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and in it, Urchin is called "Unizo" (dvd:/1 Data/files/Object/unizo.arc) and Big Urchin is called "Big Unizo" (1 Data/files/Object/unizoBig.arc). This "missing link" further indicates that the developers thought of Unizo as redesigned Urchins before Super Mario Galaxy 2. That, and the English name is unchanged, so completely splitting the Super Mario Galaxy version may be unnecessarily confusing. I still think Land Unizo should be a derived species, though. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:08, 16 January 2018 (EST)