MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge Shooting (event) with Skeet (event). (Discuss) Deadline: April 30, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Organize images on List of advertisements in the Mario Kart series with a gallery format. (Discuss) Deadline: May 1, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Move List of bogey types to (Discuss) Deadline: May 2, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Create a template on Tennis Courts (Discuss) Deadline: May 7, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment.

Removals
None at the moment.

Course, Courts and Tracks
I've noticed a bit of an incorrection ( or so I think ) with things such as Mario Kart courses, which should be called tracks, as in 'Racing Track'. 'Course' should refer to 'Golf Course', because we do say that Golf areas are courses, not racing areas. Therefore I propose that pages, articles and sections with an incorrect reafearal to 'Course' s should be moved or changed to 'Tracks'.

Proposer: Deadline: April 26, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support - Change to 'Tracks'

 * 1) per proposal
 * 2) per proposal

Oppose - Keep as 'Courses'

 * 1) I've seen a number of articles that use "course" and "track" interchangeably. People know what is meant regardless of the word used. To go through and change one to the other is just nitpicking and doesn't really affect the accuracy of any particular article.
 * 2) Per Mario4Ever. This wouldn't really have any constructive effect.
 * 3) Per Mario4Ever. An Track is a Course.Even in Golf Games, you can call, for example: "Peach's Golf Course" as "Peach's Golf track". We understand that in the same way.
 * 4) "Course" can mean the track on which a race is run. Per Mario4Ever.
 * 5) - The official game manuals call them "courses" (at least the MK Wii and MK:DD ones do - it's even a header in the Table of Contents for the latter one).
 * 6) - Per Walkazo.

Comments
Meh, the proposal is a bit vague for my liking. What exactly constitutes as an "incorrect" referral to "course" anyway? I'd like some more clarity on that. 11:42, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

This is like making a proposal to change capitals to lower case in subsection titles. There's no point in making it universal, and the effort we have to concentrate to enact such minor changes is not very productive. Courses have been nomenclature for a while; its being correct or not isn't really clear-cut since it can be used interchangeably. 12:19, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
 * So basically your saying that this isn't important enough, do it yourself? And 'incorrect' refers to any Mario Kart reference to course that should actually be called tracks. If you oppose, just oppose, that's why it's here. - 16:45, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
 * You made the proposal today, and since this isn't a Writing Guideline or Talk Page Proposal, the deadline is in a week, not two, so I fixed it for you.
 * My saying that this is way too trivial to warrant a proposal. 20:26, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

This isn't something that requires input from the entire community, it's a minor editorial dispute at best. Might be better to bring this up on individual talk pages or on the general discussion forums. I have no opinion on the subject itself. --
 * Yeah, didn't really know where to put this, this was the only place I could think of. I wouldn't describe this a nitpicky, more if just getting a bit of order to pages, but anyway if this doesn't really makes anyone else a slight bit confused/annoyed, there isn't a real propose to keep this up, but we could just wait and see. - 05:16, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
 * While it might've been better as a discussion in the Wiki Collabs forum board, seeing as the term is used on large numbers of pages (including templates and categories), it's not a minor change being suggested here, so the Proposals isn't a bad place to go with the issue: it's certainly better than trying to host it on one or more talk pages. - 19:43, 21 April 2014 (EDT)

The two words can be synonmyms. I honestly don't think it makes the biggest difference. 18:30, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

McDonalds
Nintendo has had a couple of licenses with McDonalds for about 20 years, but there is no official page/pages about these licenses on the wikipedia. I propose that a page be made on the Happy Meal Lines.

Proposer: Deadline: April 29, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support - Create Page/Pages

 * 1) per my proposal

Oppose - Don't do anything!

 * 1) Firstly, they are listed here. Second, unlike the K'NEX sets, there really aren't enough of these to justify creating an entire new page on them.
 * 2) Per Vommack.
 * 3) Seriously, we don't need a page on cheap merchandise that doesn't have any real purpose or function aside from being thrown in the garbage by parents. Also, per Vommack.
 * 4) Per Vommack and Ninelevendo.
 * 5) Per Vommack. Feel free to add to the articles mentioned if you have new information, though.

Comments
If you have enough info, go ahead and create it. There is no need for a proposal in tgis case.

This should be a TPP.--Vommack (talk) 14:18, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

This doesn't need a proposal. If the merchandise is official and real, then go add it to the merchandise page. 14:51, 22 April 2014 (EDT)
 * It's actually already on this page. He's saying it warrants an entire new article.--Vommack (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

Disambiguation minimum
I have noticed many of the orphaned pages on the wiki are disambiguation. These pages have only two pages on them, and those pages have links to each other already, making the disambig page useless. What I think is that disambiguation pages should have at least three instead of two page links in order to be made and as for the ones that have less, they should either have another page link added or be deleted.

Proposer: Deadline: April 30, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support-Change limit

 * 1) Per my own proposal.

Oppose-Keep it as it is

 * 1) Per Vommack's comment. There needs to be a default term for people to be linked to. Removing these could potentially make it harder for people to navigate the wiki.
 * 2) Per Yoshi. Which makes it per me in a way, I suppose.
 * 3) If I look up 'Luma', what would it go to? Species, or character? This is why we need those pages.
 * 4) Per all. If a term has two equally prominent uses, a disambig page is the only way to go. There is nothing wrong with disambiguation pages being orphaned: they're for helping searches, after all, just like redirects.
 * 5) System works fine and as intended as is.

Comments
And what would you default to if you searched for a term with two meanings?--Vommack (talk) 16:53, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I see your point. Now, how do we make them un-orphaned if the two pages already have links to each other? 17:33, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I'd say they don't necessarily have to be. While there shouldn't be normal pages lying around in the orphanage, some disambiguation pages will inevitably end up there. There's not really anywhere to link to them, but they need to stay for the sake of navigation.--Vommack (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Basically what we're saying is that these pages don't need to be un-orphaned, they have a use in the search bar. - 17:56, 23 April 2014 (EDT)

It's unsurprising that a disambiguation page would be orphaned as well. Orphaned pages are pages that no other page links to. Due to the nature and use of a disambiguation page, it makes sense that nothing would link directly to them. Adding more to the page itself won't solve that, although I'm sure linking back could be jury-rigged into existing articles (IE: "To read more about [TOPIC], see here: [LINK TO DISAMBIGUATION PAGE FOR TOPIC].). I don't see it as a necessity, however.--
 * Names with more than two meanings often/usually link to the disambig page in the articleabout (rather than listing everything there), but if there's only one other meaning, it makes more sense to link directly to the other article: cutting out the middle man, and all. -
 * Figured we already did it, just couldn't think of any examples off the top of my head. :D -
 * Try things like Yoshi and Luma, and everyone should get the point. Searching Luma will put you on the disamxhjdujbc page, whereas the Yoshi page sends you to the disamxhjdujbc page. - 21:30, 23 April 2014 (EDT)

Merge 9-Volt and 18-Volt
So, first of all: These two guys from yhe WarioWare series should be considered as only one charactwr, and have only one page for they, much like it does in Kat and Ana, Me and Red, Dribble and Spitz... Considering that 18-Volt's page is little, I think that this should be merged with 9-Volt.

Proposer: Deadline: May 1, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) I feel that 18-Volt has more that can be said about him. More of 18-Volt's personality has been shown. Now I've only played 2 WarioWare games and I've seen more about both Red and 18-Volt than I have about Spitz in total, but even with the one game I've played that 18-Volt has been in, I still see he's shown more about himself. Plus his article isn't that short, pretty big if you ask me.
 * 2) Red is practically always seen with you, whereas 18-Volt is a bit like Wario in the sense of characters.
 * 3) Per Tails and Nin.
 * 4) 18 Volt's not particularly short for a WarioWare character page so I have no idea why you.re saying that. Anyway, 9-Volt and 18-Volt aren't an ensemble the way Ashley & red or Kat & Ana are; they're shown acting separately plenty of time (most notably D.I.Y and D.I.Y Showcase where the two have separate stages).
 * 5) - Per all.

Comments
This should be a TTP on 18-Volt's page.