Talk:Classic course

Back in the Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart Wii era there likely was the idea that retro course would have stayed as the name of the old courses and that they would have stayed in the same cups, making the Extra courses of Mario Kart: Super Circuit a separate thing - chronologically they were separated by Mario Kart: Double Dash!! not featuring them, after all. Nowadays though, I think it's indeed those Extra courses which were the first case of old courses in a Mario Kart game. Now that it's clear that the naming and cups they are featured in aren't that important, I think it's time to merge those courses back here, at least as a small section that then can contain a link at the Extra Cups' page. What do you think?--Mister Wu (talk) 18:45, January 30, 2021 (EST)
 * I say just merge Extra Cup here entirely. The only real differences are that the cups used for old courses changed from "Extra X" to the standard "Shell, Banana, Leaf, Lightning" setup and that Super Circuit simply had the entire track list from SMK instead of representing every past game as has been the case from DS onward. I don't think latter difference really matters much since MKSC was only the third game in the series, and being a 2D game, they obviously couldn't use MK64 tracks. The former difference is superfluous at best, especially with classic courses appearing in the MK8 DLC cups alongside new ones, which breaks the established pattern anyway. 18:57, January 30, 2021 (EST)

Merge Extra Cup with this article
See the above comments. To sum up, the term for retro/classic/whatever tracks has never been consistent, so there is no real reason to consider the "extra" tracks from Super Circuit a separate thing anymore, and the cup names in Super Circuit being different from the norm means nothing, since MK8's DLC cups and Tour already break the pattern.

Proposer: Deadline: March 18, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Yes, merge and redirect.
 * 3) Per proposal, I didn't even know these were separate when they shouldn't be.
 * 4) Must be the case of just a past name like with certain enemies in the franchise.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per proposal.
 * 7) Fully agreed - now that the old courses have a different name and are featured in different cups I don't see any point in not featuring the Extra Cups of Mario Kart: Super Circuit that effectively introduced them.
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) Per all.

"Wii U" prefix
The video used as reference for the Wii U courses' prefix appears to be a fan-made one. Not only it wasn't uploaded on an official Nintendo channel, but translating the video description reveals that it says "it is fiction". The audio is from the original trailer and the track name here appears to be edited from DS Mario Circuit's to have "WiiU" as the prefix and Mario Kart 8's game cover (which in the video is a bit stretched and darker compared to the rest of the covers). 1468z (talk) 04:53, March 4, 2023 (EST)
 * Ah, dang. I've been fooled. We can leave all the Wii U prefix redirects I just made, right? Ahemtoday (talk) 10:14, March 4, 2023 (EST)
 * Well, the proposal to make the rest of the redirect articles said to exclude the Wii U courses, so I don't believe so (but if anyone believes otherwise, they can revert the deletion tags I put on all of those). 11:46, March 4, 2023 (EST)
 * I mean, in order to get through our redirect policy, a redirect just has to be neither silly nor ambiguous. "Wii U" is a perfectly reasonable prefix, and "Wii U Mario Circuit" could only refer to one course, so I think the redirects are justified. Ahemtoday (talk) 12:35, March 4, 2023 (EST)