MarioWiki:Proposals

Writing guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment.

Delete the RPG Item categories
(borrowing my argument from here)

Both Category: RPG Items - General and Category:RPG Items - Special are inconsistent with the rest of the wiki. We don't have categories for platformer items or sports items, nor do we have broad RPG categories for characters or enemies or any other subject. At best, we only have categories that encompass a series (for example, Category:Mario & Luigi Series Enemies branches off into the game-specific enemy categories), but nothing that's solely based on genre. Every item in these categories already has a home in another, more specific and more helpful item category. Nothing is gained from having them, and nothing would be lost if they were deleted.

Proposer: Deadline: August 16, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Delete

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Why do we have this? I know RPGs are special because they give meaning to items, but a wiki shouldn't just put them all together in one category and call it a day. Even look at this if you want to know why. Per proposal
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per proposal.
 * 7) Also take a look at this page.
 * 8) Per all

Changes
None at the moment.

Change the sentence about the About template on MarioWiki:Naming
When disambiguation pages are used, the articles should link to them in, but if a disambiguation page is not used, the articles can merely link to the other same-named page.

I find the first part, about articles needing to link to the disambiguation page, to be unnecessary, for the simple fact that the about template is almost always unnecessary in these situations. Let me use Stamp (Mario's Time Machine) as my example:


 * 1) If a reader ends up there by chance (say, by using Special:Random), they weren't interested in a particular stamp in the first place and there's no need to point them to the disambiguation page.
 * 2) If a reader ends up there through Stamp (disambiguation), then they were already at the disambiguation page. It's redundant to link to it again.
 * 3) If a reader ends up there through a link within the body of another article, then the context should be enough to let them know where they're going, and failing that, "Mario's Time Machine" is right in the title. They clicked on the link because they wanted more information about the subject discussed within the article, and even if they had another Stamp in mind, the article quickly shows what it's about.
 * 4) If a reader searches for "Stamp", they'll first see the most prominent Stamp and then Stamp (disambiguation). Even if they go to "Stamp" first and that's not what they wanted, that page already links to the disambiguation page, which goes back to the second point.

I used the Stamps for my example, but this extends to all similar pages. I simply cannot think of a situation where someone would end up at the page while thinking that they were going to end up somewhere else, and then being confused or disappointed about where they ended up. In these circumstances, the about template is a piece of fluff that doesn't help readers and distracts from the rest of the article. It shouldn't be a requirement to use it on every article when disambiguation pages are involved. It's not as if the about template is useless in all circumstances - for example, Stamp should link to its corresponding disambiguation page, as mentioned above - but it's hardly a necessity for all pages.

I am not proposing to outright remove the about template; I propose to make the following change to the sentence:

When disambiguation pages are used, the articles should only link to them in when necessary, but if a disambiguation page is not used, the articles can merely link to the other same-named page.

In short, use common sense and don't shoot your foot off.

Proposer: Deadline: August 23, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per TT.
 * 2) - I've sort of been doing this myself already anyway
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Sure. I have never really used those pages when I wrote articles of the Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS's levels. I only started using the about template when it was just either Super Mario Maker or the remake that had this set of numbers. Even then, I use this to send the reader to the other place, not the one that had both. In general, the only times that they need to be link the one to the one with many uses is on the most commonly used the most often. Which means that it is in s. And if your wondering why I haven't said the name even once, the reason is I don't know the name well enough to type it out very easily. This doesn't mean I don't know what it does. Per proposal.
 * 1) Sure. I have never really used those pages when I wrote articles of the Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS's levels. I only started using the about template when it was just either Super Mario Maker or the remake that had this set of numbers. Even then, I use this to send the reader to the other place, not the one that had both. In general, the only times that they need to be link the one to the one with many uses is on the most commonly used the most often. Which means that it is in s. And if your wondering why I haven't said the name even once, the reason is I don't know the name well enough to type it out very easily. This doesn't mean I don't know what it does. Per proposal.