Talk:Bob-omb (Paper Mario: The Origami King)


 * "Bobby is the only one to have seen Luigi after Peach's Castle was taken over, who has apparently been missing."

Source or clarification? Thanks -- Crafty Potatoes (talk)

Undead
Bobby shows up as a ghost when you take a new photo in Shogun Studios after his death Pokemon (talk) 12:47, July 29, 2020 (EDT) After all, he exploded and you saw his SPIRIT Olivia also cried and she said "We only have our memories" Pokemon (talk) 16:33, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * That still doesn't mean he is an undead character. Like we've been saying to you, the categories are only valid if the character started out undead or deceased which Bobby doesn't.
 * I don't know what you mean by that
 * Pokemon's right. If they start out a so-called "undead character," then unless specifically stated we don't know if they were alive to begin with, which is what determines whether something is truly "undead." In his case, he dies and later his spirit showed up, which by definition makes him undead. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:12, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * I agree with Doc, the fact that, for whatever reason, we don't classify characters as deceased/undead if they aren't that way for their entire appearance is frankly downright stupid, not to mention incredibly confusing for readers and editors alike as this has shown. (And also false - three of the characters currently in the "Deceased Characters" category were initially shown alive) How does dying halfway through a game make you any "less dead" than a character that died before the game's events? It also goes completely against what the category says it's for - "A list of all the characters that have died or have been heavily implied to be dead at some point". It says nothing about "only characters who have always appeared dead". We either need to fix how the Deceased Characters category is currently handled, or if we're not going to do that remove it entirely, because in its current state it's not helping anyone. I also think we should be a little less strict with overlap between Deceased and Undead for characters like Bobby or Wrinkly Kong. I get that the idea is to prevent every ghost in the franchise from ending up in the category, but for characters who we know used to be living beings, it doesn't make sense to omit them from the category just because they came back as a ghost. -- 17:31, July 29, 2020 (EDT)