MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code (~).

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
 * 10) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
 * 11) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

New Features
None at the moment.

Quotes
On really long articles such as Peach, one can see that there are dozens of qoutes, and most of them are completely pointless like:


 * Help
 * "Dear Mario, I'll be waiting for you at the castle on the night of the Star Festival. There's something I'd like to give you. From Peach".

I propose that these either get removed or shortened. I see no promblem with having qoutes, but having so many that arn't even descent (Although that is a matter of opinion) is pointless. What are your thoughts?

Proposer:HyperToad Deadline: Janurary 5, 2008, 20:00

Remove Them

 * 1) HyperToad Reason said above.
 * 2) I think quote sections like that should be removed altogether.
 * 3) Quotes are fine, but not quote sections.
 * 4) User:Yoshimon I think the quotes that are screaming/laughing/etc. should be removed.
 * 5) InfectedShroom.[[Image:infectoicon.png]] |Talk|Reviews| Shorten them. They take up a ridiculous amount of space. OR, just make a page devoted to quotes of the Mario series.
 * 6) An extra page for important quotes (what is important and what is not, could be decided later) would be good, but they should not clutter up the article.
 * 7) The Legend of Zelda Freak Yep. I got the feeling that sometimes the quotes are longer than the "article itself".

Keep Them

 * 1) User:Pseudo-dino Well, we could probably keep the second one, but we gotta get rid of Help
 * 2) Walkazo - See my below comment.
 * 3) Glitchman - I like quotes. I guess you could get rid of "Help!" though.
 * 4) Can we please refrain from removing information?  Just put it on an alternate quote page.  Please at least do that; I agree they are probably too long.
 * 1) Can we please refrain from removing information?  Just put it on an alternate quote page.  Please at least do that; I agree they are probably too long.

Comments
As you said, deciding what Quotes are decent and which aren,t is purely a matter of opinion. I think we should use a case-by-case procedure, not everything need to be run throught a proposal. Blitzwing

already had this prospoal, that one -_-'
 * Uh?

Blitzwing

Although it is a matter of opinion, how the heck is "Help" a descent qoute, I'm sure anybody could agree that it's just stupid. HyperToad
 * Rather than argue that it's stupid, you could say it was just one of the exclaimations in SMG put there in order to help guide players rather than significant dialouge. I'd be more willing to delete it then, wouldn't you?  That said, I agree with Blitzwing that these things are too varied for a proposal.  How about just talking on the talk page?  14:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)
 * We already had a proposal about quotes to which it was decided (as Blitzwing suggested here) that relevancy would be decided case-by-case. The first proposal was concerning nonsensical things like "Ahhhh!", but we did touch on ubiquitous-sounding quotes like "help" and we decided that since (in this case) Peach screams for "help" so often it actually does shed some light on her character and therefore is in fact a "decent quote". - Walkazo

In my opinion, entire sections devoted to quotes are ridiculous. Sure, the quotes at the top and everything are okay, but these quote sections... Let's see. They clutter the article, they're often written in poor grammar, and sometimes they've been added to the article above the quote section. They're trouble in my opinion, and I think that not only should the "small" quotes like Peach screaming for help should be removed, but the entire quote sections.

If the quotes sections are being scrapped can we at least make seperate quote pages as InfectedShroom and Time Q suggested? Since that proposal about Gallery pages passed, quotes pages would fit right into the whole idea. Besides, some quotes pages are already being worked on (i.e. Koopalings (quotes)). - Walkazo

Merge Bird Articles
The Other night I was looking through articles and I came across the Blue Bird, Green Bird, Yellow Bird, and Red Bird. Yellow and Blue barly make any apperances while Red only makes one. I think these are way to insignificent so I say we merge them into on Birds Article Or Minor Speacies of Island Delfino.

Proposer: Luigibros2 Deadline:: January 5th, 2008, 20:00

Merge them

 * 1) My Reasons above
 * 2) Same thing, different gifts.
 * 3) Ultimatetoad
 * 4) Celeste 14:46, 29 December 2007 (EST) – they are not different species just because they are colored different and many animals have different colored/patterned coats (like cats).
 * 5) Walkazo - Their individual articles are three lines each. Merge them and we'll have a decent article. Plus it will be faster to read one page than having to go from one to another, to another...
 * 6) - Like Red Koopas and Green Koopas, they should be merged, as they're just palettes
 * 7) Luigifan14 02:21, 2 January 2008 (EST) - There isn't enough about them to merit seperate pages. All of them could be summed up in one ordinary paragraph. Same for the Boards in Super Mario Galaxy (though I could see line breaks on every sign)
 * 8) theyre just palette swaps
 * 9) Madhatter9max 16:20, 3 January 2008 (EST) it's simpler and takes up less energy for slower computers and it's not that specific a detail.
 * 10) Per Lbros2
 * 11) Per Walkazo
 * 12) Per Ghost Jam

Let there be Bird articles

 * 1) Although their all rather minor, they are different species', so they each are deserving of an article.
 * 2) I like the seperate articles!
 * 3) User:Pseudo-dino Gotta agree with Bentendo.
 * 4) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif What Uniju said. Let's see here: Mini Goomba is similar to Goomba. Merge anyone?
 * 5) Leave 'em alone! If we merge the bird articles, we might as well cram all the different species of Koopas into one big article. Same with any other thing that has sub-species.
 * 6) Per Uniju and Paper Jorge.

Comments
Hmmm... While the birds are rather insignificant, they are all seperate creatures with different purposes. For now, I'm neutral on this.

Uniju: Yes, but they are all birds. They only have 2 differences; one is their colour s and two is their coin they give out/

What about Yoshi's. We have Red Yoshi, Yellow Yoshi etc..... should they be merged? - Ultimatetoad
 * Probably not, just because they are specific characters when you look at individual Yoshi's Island games. 14:52, 29 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yeah, but if you look at the Purple Yoshi article it talks about Purple Yoshis in general (the Super Mario Sunshine Purple Yoshis vs. the Yoshi's Island Purple Yoshi). I sorta agree they should all be merged into one article with all the Yoshi subspecies but that would look a bit messy and wouldn't last very long. I think one "Isle Delfino Birds" article will work here because the birds are so minor, whereas Yoshis are real pop-icons when it comes to the Marioverse. - Walkazo

Merge Classic NES Series Articles
The other day I was reading through the list of stubs, and I noticed that all three Classic NES Series games, Donkey Kong, Dr. Mario, and Super Mario Bros. have their own articles and are all stubs. If we merge these articles, the series will be more organized, complete, and easier-to-read, plus you would not have to move from page to page to read them.

Proposer: Glitchman Deadline:: January 11th, 2008, 20:00

Merge them

 * 1) My Reasons above
 * 2) Kamicciolo, any changes or additions could just be noted in the main games page
 * 3) Better to create an article on Classic NES Series and list all that apply.
 * 4) Put it this way: These need to be here as much as the Bird articles. >_>
 * 5) Either this or make them sub-sections in their main game articles.  Which do you think is best?

Keep them separate

 * 1) True, but they're different games, which are more major then species and such.
 * 2) InfectedShroom.[[Image:infectoicon.png]] |Talk|Reviews|They're all different games.
 * 3) - Per the mini and the 'Shroom

Comments
They may be different games from their originals, but aside from a few minor graphical improvements, they're complete and utter ports, nothing else. If we have articles on these, we may as well have articles on the Virtual Console versions of games.
 * The same thing applies to all ports, like Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch). Instead of putting the Classic NES games into one article, we should merge them and all the other unneccesary ports with the articles for the original games. - Walkazo
 * But we should have a page for the Classic NES Series, just because it was a big thing back in the ol' GBA days. 20:12, 5 January 2008 (EST)
 * Actually, Stumpers has a point. Making sub-sections on the main game pages makes a lot of sense. My opposition to the total merging still stands, though... Sorry Glitchman! :( InfectedShroom.[[Image:infectoicon.png]] |Talk|Reviews|

Changes
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Miscellaneous
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