MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/34

Remakes
WITHDRAWN BY PROPOSER

I think something needs to be done about the way we treat remake games. We have articles for games such as Super Mario 64 DS and Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, but the whole Super Mario Advance series are all merged with their original games. While those remakes aren't nearly as different as their original games, they still have their differences and should still be treated as other remakes are in the wiki. I propose that we either split all remakes from their original games and give them their own articles or merge all remakes into their original games.

Proposer: Deadline: June 1, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Split all remakes into individual articles

 * 1) I say split

Comments
Sorry, it's already an official policy. It just hasn't been enforced everywhere yet. -- 09:53, 25 May 2013 (EDT)


 * So remakes already get their own pages?

Yes, they should. But not all of them have as of yet, as there's quite a bit of work involved. Splitting the article does not just mean to create a separate page. There are individual categories that need to be created, character/enemy history entries to add, templates and (many) links to update. And the article can't just be a cut-paste of the "#Remakes" section of the original article. -- 10:02, 25 May 2013 (EDT)


 * Alright, then I guess I should withdrawal this proposal since there's already the policy.

Note that SMA games are more ports than remakes. A general term would be "reissues" (but that doesn't really matter). 13:55, 25 May 2013 (EDT)


 * Yeah, withdrawing would be best: it's early enough that you can remove/archive it yourself. -

Write "Glitches" Section for levels
DON'T WRITE SECTION 1-10

I think that if a person knows of a level glitch, but forgot how to do it, they should not have to go down an incredibly long list to find it. This would make the process a lot less tedious as well.

Proposer: Deadline: May 28, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per reasons above.

Oppose

 * 1) Why is this restricted only for levels? Doing so breaks consistency for the rest of the articles. Besides, if they're searching for a glitch, they should use Crtl + F and keywords. All glitches should stay on their respective pages.
 * 2) That would be pointless; there are already glitch pages for almost every game, and as Baby Luigi said, you can just user the "Find" tool to look for certain glitches.
 * 3) Per all. And what if a particular glitch appears in many levels, not just one?
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) - Per all.
 * 8) • Just type "Glitches of " in the serch box and click Search. It's not that hard.
 * 9) Per Once and Only Once it will be found on the level and on the glitches page, and per Baby Luigi.
 * 10) - Per all.

Comments
I have to say I am in no sides on this one, it sounds like a great idea, but baby luigi IS right, every computer can use ctrl+f to find glitches. Robecuba (talk)

@YoshiKong: Then it would be put in as ex.: this glitch also appears in [insert level(s) where glitch appears here]. MegaDigga3 (talk)

We can add a "See [insert glitches link here] for glitches" or something like that.-- 10:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

Change Main page rotation to Mondays
LEAVE THE ROTATION DAY AS SATURDAYS 1-7

The Main Page is very important on the wiki, so why is it that we rotate every Sat.? Mondays are better I think because of the fact it's the beginning of the week. This makes for easier remembering to rotate items.

Proposer: Deadline: May 31, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per above.

Oppose

 * 1) How do you think people remember stuff better on Mondays? Kinda unnessecary (tell me if I misspelled that.)
 * 2) This change is unnecessary and the reasoning for the change is pretty weak. It all boils down to preference, and I don't think we need to change anything here. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday...it doesn't matter at all.
 * 3) And what's the difference? Unnessecary.
 * 4) I see no logical reason for this, it is perfectly fine the way it is.
 * 5) No point.
 * 6) - Well, I don't think it would make that much of a difference, so yeah, per all.
 * 7) I don't think it matters.

Comments
It's Unnecessary so I wouldn't even vote 17:09, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

Merge the DK: Jungle Climber navigational templates
MERGE TEMPLATES 9-0

Merge all of the DK: Jungle Climber navigational templates into one template (with a separate template for the levels)

The way that the templates for DK: Jungle Climber are set up is just... odd. The characters, the minigames, the worlds, and the levels in each world all have templates made specifically for them, and I am just confused as to why. There are only nine characters in the game (including major and minor) seven minigames, six worlds, and thirty levels in this game, and that's not including the enemies that we never decided to list and the items that were haphazardly listed. At most, we have (or at least should have) an individual template for anything that has a lot of entries for it (levels, minigames, items, etc.), and then one for everything else. However, the individual templates usually have around 50 or more entries in them, whereas here, we have at most, nine, and that's for the characters. So, I propose to merge all of these templates (Jungle Climber for the characters, DKJC-Minigames, Worlds in DKJC, Sun Sun Island, Lost Island, and Chill 'n' Char Island) into two templates; one for the six worlds and thirty levels, and one for all the other templates, as well as including any other elements that are not included in any of these templates, such as enemies and items. Since I'm only able to work with what the wiki currently has (and I'll presumably be the one creating this all-inclusive template), the template might not be entirely complete, but in my opinion, it'll look a lot better than what we currently have.

Proposer: Deadline: June 2, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Merge templates

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal, and if I'm correct all the games do this anyway so it keeps it consistent.
 * 3) Per Yoshi876.
 * 4) Per proposal.
 * 5) &mdash; Per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Per policy.
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) Per all.

Comments
I think put in "DK: Jungle Climber Places" for the first of two templates mentioned.

You don't need a proposal for this: policy already states that games should only get single all-inclusive templates (although they can leave levels separate, as well as other sprawling groups of pages that will make the template unwieldy if they're included). -

Delete quote sections/articles that don't have any meaningful quotes
DELETE PAGES 8-1

Delete quotes articles and sections in the sporting games and Mario Party series, if they are composed of meaningless ones i.e. "Hooray"

These sections/pages are not needed. People do not need to read "Let's-a-go" or "Congratulations" as these are just simple words. The quotes sections should be for character development not "Here I go!". And most of these have been under construction for many years, List of quotes in the Mario Kart series has been under construction since 2008, so people aren't contributing to it. I think these pages are unneeded should therefore be deleted.

Proposer: Deadline: June 3, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Delete pages

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal. No-one needs to read short and stupid things like "congratulations" or even Lakitu signs.
 * 3) Per proposal. This has been on the back of my mind for a while.
 * 4) I look at the list of Mario Kart Quotes and under Mario's section for Mario Kart 64, it lists what he says on the main menu. Him saying "Data" or "Options" don't really count as quotes. In short per all, we don't need quotes of characters saying what mode your in.
 * 5) Per proposal.
 * 6) - Per all.
 * 7) -- Per all, people don't need to reading short and dumb things like "Peach!".
 * 8) Per all.

Keep the pages

 * 1)  This isn't the right decision. While most of these quotes are inane and pointless, we should delete the inane and pointless quotes instead of deleting the entire page. Believe it or not, some sporting and Mario Party games DO contain meaningful quotes (see: List of quotes in Mario Super Sluggers) and therefore, if this proposal passes, we delete not only the short, pointless ones, but also the ones where the proposal EXPLICITLY STATES that it should support. So it's very contradictory.
 * 2) They are quotes nonetheless. It's not because it's not very meaningful that it's less canon or something. However I think we should add specifications (i.e.: when they say the quotes; some articles already do this)

Comments
@BabyLuigi I see your point, and that was one thing that worried me, so I'll change it to the ones that are entirely composed of stupid "Yahoos" and so on.

Shouldn't we reset votes? Because this proposal got altered, making my oppose vote pointless
 * I did, but Walkazo said that even though it's been changed, I can't remove the votes. You might be able to remove your oppose, or you'll just have to put the line through it.
 * Yeah, you can't remove comments and votes like that - although if the users don't check back in on their own, you can contact them and let them know the proposal changed and their votes are no longer applicable. Also, since Baby Luigi's original vote was addressed in the comments, it would be best if she'd slash it out, rather than remove it - and then re-cast or rewrite her vote, if she so chooses, of course. -
 * My only concern with getting rid of those two, is that they'd probably still agree. I mean the proposal only changed to keep the meaningful quotes and so I highly doubt they'd say 'No, let's get rid of those ones as well'.
 * Well, you don't have to let the users know there was a slight change: it's ultimately up to a voter to check back in even after they vote. If a proposer wants to let them know, they can, but if they don't, they don't; like you said, they'll probably keep supporting, so if you want to just leave it, that's perfectly fine. If there was a major change, it'd be best to archive and restart the proposal, that way the voting is reset, but that'd be unnecessary here. Don't be concerned about something you don't have to do anyway. -