MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 15

Quorum for Proposals?

 * This may have to become a proposal itself depending.

I was thinking: sometimes proposals have gotten as low as 3 votes a week. That's not enough to voice the popular opinion and/or consensus. For those who don't know, a quorum is a minimum requirement for something. In this case, I think we need to set a certain # of votes total that a proposal needs to count. Even if the proposal passes, anything less than the quorum fails, but the proposal can be tried again after a month or so if wanted again.

Opinions? 22:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)


 * Well, there's this big ol' problem we have here, and that's that there's all this neat stuff, like the peer editing for featured articles, the proposals, and the help board that is cool and highly used the first few weeks it's out, but then is forgotten. (can you say run-on?)  Perhaps we need a way to show new proposals on the front page, where each user will see them prior to editing.  All we have to include is the proposal, not the voting.  Right now, most Wikis have a variety of "boxes" on their front pages, (see Bulbapedia and Zelda Wiki) to involve users in the current goings on.  Look at our front page: completely devoid of anything like that.  Just: "Here's what we have articles on."  Is it any wonder that we don't have much support for anything except that?  It's not enough to see it over on the sidebar (seriously, new pictures attract more than text, remember the FAs?)... we need to have something dynamic on the mainpage.
 * But for now, this should work. Remember poor Fixitup's pictures, denied after she went through the proper steps?  We don't want any more of that or we're going to loose support.  03:05, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Your "show the proposal on the front page" sounds possible with DPL...a coding opportunity...I'm on vacation until the end of the month, but maybe we can work something else later involving such an idea. 03:49, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, sounds good to me.-1337Yoshi

Main Page Redesign
I understand that our main page is lacking. Most popular wikis have that kind of boxy-organized look that seems to work. I encourage users to attempt a redesign on a subpage of their userpage to see if we can come up with something better. -- 12:36, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * I did one for a wiki not to long ago here
 * As you know, I suck at Wiki syntax. Could you either a) direct me to somewhere I can learn how to do it or b) accept a basic visual outline?  13:27, 17 August 2007 (EDT) ...because I will make one... oh, yes... I will.

I think the boxes would not only organize or front page, but it would make users more interested in the goings-on of the Wiki, like Stumpers said.
 * I'm taking on this project, starting today and working on it bit by bit when I can. 13:33, 17 August 2007 (EDT)


 * Besides just making the main page look better, I think one week is enough for people to voice their opinions. If someone is indifferent on a matter and the vote stays with 1 or 2 votes then what? Another problem is that the poll could be ended before people who want to oppose/support could have a chance to vote. 13:38, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

Whoa... I didn't realize this was gonna be so popular... I'll be going head to head with people who know sintax-magic! CRUD! Oh, well. Hey, there's a forum post I started that asks what people want on the main page. Sure, I made it for me, but you guys might as well use it, seeing that you're gonna pwn me anyway. It's in the main forum... Wiki whatever it is :'), who got pwn'd 13:41, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Got a better idea: I'll bring the post to you. Here's my ideas, quoted from the page:

Featured Article (long-live!) Featured Image Most Recent Proposal Pipe Project News Links to Lists (characters, merchandise, etc.) Wiki News Mario News (release date updates, etc.) The Shroom Section (when the next Shroom is coming, what is planned) External Links Community Link (to bring forums, chat room, etc. to newbies attention)

Yeah... that's a lot. Pick and choose, boys! ...and girl. Oh, and by the way, the PowerPoint idea is failing, so I believe I'm out of this unless I can find out the syntax-magic. 13:43, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

I think Featured Images might be rejected in a current proposal. PPs are failing, if brought back to life cn be included. Wiki/Mario News good idea, Lists of course. Shroom Section if restarted again as well. Both Links good. 13:55, 17 August 2007 (EDT)


 * Yeah, Featured articles are recovering, why not?
 * I recommended this once, but everyone thought it was a bad idea since judging an image is very based on opinion, thus causing conflicts and such.
 * I like this idea.
 * We already have those on the current main page, so why not?
 * I don't know what you mean by Wiki News, since we pretty much have no news. I thought something like this was explained on the 'Shroom.
 * This could make it in there, but maybe it could be a weekly thing.
 * I think the 'Shroom is dead.
 * Yeah, sure.
 * Maybe...

13:56, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * We could indeed have a section for Mario news, but it shouldn't include every update of The Smash Bros. Dojo, for example, but merely say there are daily updates and only post big announcements from that. Any bigger news of Galaxy & the likes, like a new trailer, would indeed fit somewhere on the Main Page. - 14:15, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * That's what I was thinking of. As far as Wiki news, I mean things like: the anniversary, server changes, etc.  19:12, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

Then again those things don't happen much. Also, that's what the Sitenotice is for. 19:13, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I suppose. Oh, and checking what's happening below, we may or may not have the 'Shroom either...  08:45, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Take Back 'Shroom?
The server move ruined the July issue, but then Mr. Saudy and Xzelion have been lazy and now August is screwed over. I would rather not, but I would take it back over if the 'Shroom is going to die off otherwise, as I don't want that to happen. Thoughts? 14:11, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

If The 'Shroom got back up, would it start in August or September? Or October? o_o
 * Well when i was temporarily doing the 'Shroom no-one sent in their sections. Also i think it'd be best if Wayo took over again.
 * Saudy said I would take over when he went back to school. But he never sent me any sections.... 15:25, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Wayoshi is more active and has more time. He's a good choice if Saudy can't handle it.
 * Saudy assigned me as the Director. I plan to have The 'Shroom out after my vacation. 16:13, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
 * That would be really beutiful and touching if I were tottally gone.

Shroom banner protected vote on this new banner
I can't re upload the banner cause it's protected, but how's this new banner I made?:

http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/9/8/18/f_shroroomcopm_906e545.png

Be honest (i always add Wario into almost every Mario Wiki banner i do, so he stays) ;) -- 17:30, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Like, get the banner unprotected so you can put this one :P 17:32, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Well, It shows off the 4 main series here... I think It's K.

I like it. It stays. (The New One.)

Modes
Should we create articles on modes? We already have a couple of them, but if we start creating them, what will be left of the game articles? What do you guys think? 21:52, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Define mode.

Something like Adventure Mode, Party Mode, or Battle Mode. Do they belong in the game's article or are good enough be a separate article? Also, if they should be separate articles, would a category be good? 22:02, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
 * I'd rather see an index of games with the modes in them. Then, clicking on the links would place you on the section that describes it.  This way, the game articles would retain their substance.  01:36, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Um... smallness
The SiteNotice, Image Captions, and other things are all really small today. Like, size 6 small. Anyone else having this problem?

Anyone?

...

Dang.

Hold Ctrl down and scroll up/down with the button in the middle of the mouse. You should be able to adjust the size. 00:10, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Advertising
I know advertising is important, but I was wondering if it was possible to move the ads on the bottom of the site past the categories box. Could the bottom ads be outside the border of the articles (and in effect become the bottom border)? Having the ads between the text and the categories is very distracting. -- Son of Suns
 * Agreed, the Ads are fine, but not when they have become part of the article :P
 * I agree with the two above comments.
 * I remember arguing about something like this before but Steve said that it brought in more money and if that's the case, I can endure it. 21:14, 23 August 2007 (EDT)


 * The ad and money is fine. We just want the placement moved, which seems reasonable and possible.  -- Son of Suns
 * Er... he said it looks better this way, I believe. Something about the extended page length.


 * Really? But they get in the way of the categories.  -- Son of Suns
 * I'm pretty sure he said either it can only fit there or ad revenue is best there. 00:03, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Update on Main Page Progress
Currently it looks like a design will be on the Main Page itself before school starts. Currently my design looks nice, but it's too cramped – too many minor links. This is due to my autism – I believe every minor item is important. Also, the colors are nice, but are protruding/dark. In my next update I am going to do the following:
 * Create a table-like style similar to Cobold's while retaining a light set of colors. There will still be different colors, but will look similar to each other when lightened up in a good way.
 * Trim down minor links.
 * Add descriptions for links using the "buttonlink" class Cobold found in PLUMs's sig (thanks!!).

Final product will have mainly the Knowledge Base, Wiki/Mario News, Proposal, Featured Article, Wiki Stuff, and a small section for Affiliates. External Links will be ridden of – all we need is the Forum, which is related & will go in Wiki Stuff. Thus, what is currently on my sub-page will change completely in a few days, but have the same content & more.

Anyone else is free to make a complete design of their own, if necessary a proposal can be made to choose which design takes over. 01:38, 24 August 2007 (EDT)