MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/14



Re-Split Orange Yoshi
SPLIT 7-0

I think it wasn't a good idea to merge Brown Yoshi to Orange Yoshi. It only was merged because of that Brown Yoshi was replaced by Orange Yoshi. Worst is, there first stand, after the merge, that Brown WAS Orange. But even thought it is in the same color group, yellow, it can still be seen that the two colors are different to each other. Orange is a mix of yellow and red, brown is much darker and a bit more yellow (meaning you can't consider brown as orange, only because it looks like each other!). If you think to keep merge, because of too less text, then add more info!

That's why I think we must re-split Orange Yoshi to Orange Yoshi and Brown Yoshi.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Arend}} Deadline: 9 May, 2009, 20:00

Re-Split

 * 1) Per myself
 * 2) I would have to agree with Arend. Even though they replaced Brown Yoshi with Orange Yoshi, they are still different Yoshi types.
 * 3) - Per Arend.
 * 4) - per Arend
 * 5) - Per all.
 * 6) - They are two slightly different species of Yoshi, and therefore must be split into two articles. Per all.
 * 7) Per all -Canama

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Revive Pipe Plaza
REVIVE 8-0

I know many of you will say "What for? We have the Talk:Main Page" but i'll tell you what, that talk is that, a simple talk page, all unorganized. On the other hand, the Pipe Plaza provides good info, is neat and organized.

If this proposal succeeds, we would post Mario related things in the Pipe Plaza talk and Technical issues in Talk:Main Page.

Also, we would need a team of loyal, active and trustworthy users to keep the page nice, current and organized.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Tucayo}} Deadline: Wednesday, May 13th, 17:00

Bring it back from the world of dead

 * 1) - Per me
 * 2) - Per you (i can be from the loyal-active ones!) yes!
 * 3) - Makes since, and I'll gladdley help with the page
 * 4) - Yeah, we just have to change the edit permission to Patrollers and others and it'll be updated alot!
 * 5) Per all and Tucayo, his idea does make a lot of sense, I think that it would be great if the PipePlaza was brought back from the dead.
 * 6) Per all
 * 7) -That is a great idea. It will be great for orginizing information and allow easier access to helping other user with technical issues. I'd love to help in its resurection.
 * 8) - Per Tucayo. I'll help out whenever I can, too.

Comments
@NG - You can't change the editing permission for one specific locked page for patrollers, its impossible with MediaWiki software. You can however, install an extension that would lock it to all users who don't have the password. But I think an extra extension for one page would take to much time and work. If we were to do this, I think we should just lock it to registered users. --

We need to tell sysops about this,either to unprotect it,or to take care of it by thmselves, or just to allow patrollers to edit it
 * We could either a) Allow only Sysops to edit it, or b) block all users who haven't been here for a month.

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Mario Award Voting on Main Page
VOTING ON MAIN PAGE 9-0

I've already cleared this mostly with Steve, but I want to make sure there is a majority agreement on this –

Remember when we only had 62 voters for Mario Awards I? 2007, yeah. N00bsday...then that turned to 93 in 2008, nice improvement. But my goodness, 2000 votes a week on the poll...and 140 this year if the 50% increase trend continues....no way I'm settling for that, man! :P

Overall provisions of this proposal:
 * Replace the Weekly Poll from June 14 (Monday) to July 14 (Tuesday). This kinda would split a poll in half starting on Friday, but maybe on June 11 we could draw the usual poll-voting crowd in with a promise for a lot of polls (40: 30 traditional + 10 anti, hopefully) on Friday and kinda just starve it off from 7/14-17.
 * Make it explicit in the Poll Selection page that no future question may copy a Mario Award. To distinguish, we aim to be as general as we can, while many of the questions on polls are hypothetical for the future or specific by game. We can keep the Mario Awards special annually. I would be willing to compromise if this is too harsh, by keeping away from Mario Award type poll questions only when it's coming up, and letting it be allowed in the winter months. Please comment on this and I'll definitely respond.
 * Userpedia Awards aren't exactly something that visitors will recognize. But if the iFrame extension is installed, I will gladly come on and help put on those awards on their Main Page as well, which may produce more voters than the 56 last year.

I will take care of any and all costs necessary to get polls that will suit the needs for the Mario Awards (hiding results, allowing write-ins, deleting duplicate votes / all by an IP). Google Forms is an excellent free service that is my backup choice right now, but two polls have suffered from duplicate voting (Funky Kong as Favorite Kong comes to mind) and that is an absolute no here...but again, I'll take care of all that, please let it not factor into your votes.

While I could put all the new polls on MarioWiki:Anniversary and link it in the announcement line...the polls being right there for everyone on the most hit page of the wiki by far will be very noticeable and should be a significant increase in voters.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: (who else) {{user|Wayoshi}} Deadline: 17:00, 14 May

Let's Get Thousands of Voters

 * 1) – This will make the awards all the more special with more widespread opinion. Gotta take advantage of our gigantic traffic.
 * 2) - Per Wayoshi. This sounds like an absolutely wonderful way to make the Awards thrive. I'll talk to Neurario about getting the iFrame extension installed.
 * 3) – Even though I didn't understood a thing, I prefer this than nagging.
 * 4) - Per Wayoshi. This would really help the Mario Awards.
 * 5) - Per Wayo, nice idea. The same as XP said
 * 6) Per Wayoshi and XP.
 * 7) Per all, a great idea to utilize traffic from both our sites. Stoob, I'll get in touch.
 * 8) Per Wayo and XP
 * 9) - Best...idea...ever!

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Wayo: what will we do with the "other" votes. they cant be forgotten }}

No Sigs on Featured Images Page
DO NOT ALLOW SIGS ON FEATURED IMAGES PAGE 4-0

Though this may seem minor now, I have seen one or two sigs that have altered vote counts on that page, and if we allow sigs on this page, eventually as the amount of images on the page grows, more and more sigs will mess up vote counts.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Zafum}} Deadline: May 14, 2009, 17:00

No Sigs

 * 1) - i find Sigs a bit unformal to be used in there.
 * 2) i wasnt planning to support it, but as SMB made an opposing proposal, i did. Zafum, you forgot to support it
 * 3) - Per all; plus sigs make voting pages impossible to load for old computers. They should be banned from all three Feature-nomination pages: that way the rules for FI (Images), FA (Articles) and FL (Lists) will all be consistant.
 * 4) - Oops, forgot to support my own proposal.

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You dont have to make a proposal about this

See my proposal below. }}

Change "No Signature" Policies
NO CHANGES 1-8

Before you vote against this rule, listen to this for one second. I think that we should reverse, well, partially reverse, the rule that eliminates signatures on voting pages. I think that the rule should be changed to "no signatures that ruin vote counts". For example, if you have seen my signature or Walkazo's signature, you will see that it would probably not ruin vote counts. Here are some ideas for my proposed rule:
 * Signatures that do not ruin vote counts can be used.
 * No images can be used in the signatures.
 * If a signature does ruin vote counts, the signature will be changed to the format.

Users can make a second signature page that they could use specifically for proposals and other voting pages if their signature does not meet these requirements, use their regular signature if it does meet the requirements, or use the format.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Super Mario Bros.}} Deadline: Sunday, 17 May 2009, 15:00

Support

 * 1) Per me.

Oppose

 * 1) - NO, Users wont respect if their sig ruins vote counts or not, neither they will know if it ruins it, so i say NO.
 * 2) - It's too complicated; it's better to just be straightforward: all or nothing. (Personally, I'd like to see all main community pages sig-less, but I'm a kill-joy on an eleven-year-old computer, so don't mind me...)
 * 3) It will be hard to tell if a sig ruins it unless they post, and by the time we realize it, it will be hard to clean up. also per walkazo, its too complicated.
 * 4) - I have answers to all your ideas:1.Signatures, wether they change vote counts or not are just informal.2.So many different people use pics on their sigs, that removing pics on them would be crazy. Anyway, my sig is completely based on images.3.why should you delete a user's vote because his sig differs from other user's sigs?Per All
 * 5) - Per Walkazo.
 * 6) - Per all.
 * 7) - Per all.
 * 8) Lu-igi board per all

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I changed the elimination of votes part, which the replacement being written in bold. }}

Movie Section
NO "MOVIES" SECTION 1-10

As you may already know, over at Userpedia, they have some sections where you can create your own stories and such. But there's one thing they don't have- A movies section. Here at Super Mario Wiki, we could have a "Movies" section, where users can freely get others to sign up with their sprites and partake in a comic-like movie, that would then be put on YouTube, in Parts, if wanted. I've put an example over on my UserPage, and if anybody wants to take part in that movie, it will be put up as an option if we do get a "Movies" section. I believe this to be a great way for Users to communicate and share ideas!

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Hyper Guy}} Deadline: May 23, 2009, 20:00

Support

 * 1) (creator)

Oppose

 * 1) - No. Just no. Super Mario Wiki is a place for factual things about the Mario series, not fan-art/fictions/movies. This is why Userpedia was created. Userpedia is the place to put these things, not at SMW.
 * 2) I would have to agree with StarYoshi1, this is a wiki for information. Also, see my comment below.
 * 3) Per StarYoshi1. This is going to distract people from editing the wiki.
 * 4) per staryoshi Lu-igi board
 * 5) - Per StarYoshi1.
 * 6) - NO WAY.  Per StarYoshi.
 * 7) 4DJONG-No, first they already have one, plus this is not the Unmario wiki this is the SMW so, basically per StarYoshi.
 * 8) No that´s a bad idea and it will give the Wiki a bad or different maning of what it is.
 * 9) Per StarYoshi1 and Super Mario Bros. Try the 'Shroom or Userpedia.
 * 10) - Per StarYoshi1.

Comments
Hyper Guy, here is a suggestion, try asking this guy if you could have this on the 'Shroom.
 * You can sign up in the Fun Stuff page if you like

Add it on The 'Shroom, but not any where else. K?4DJONG

Are you allowed to put the 4DJONG code in your comment, 4DJONG?
 * Everyone should sign with, but we won't remove Username, as that doesn't mess with people's computers, like some personalized sigs do. However, seeing as 4DJONG's signature included a timestamp, that implies he signed with ~ , which we ask people to not do. Again, it's mainly to prevent sigs containing images and backgrounds from clogging-up the page, but it would look better if everyone simply signed the same way. -

Yes, he is, he just can't use, or  if he has a custom sig.

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No Offensive Material
DON'T CREATE OFFENSIVE MATERIAL RULE 1-9

As a wiki user, I have rarely seen it, and I do not know if there is an already exising rule for this, but I think we should make a new rule for Offensive Material. If a proposal has material deemed offensive by at least three active users, the part that includes the offensive material must be deleted. If it is added again by the proposer, the proposal itself will be deleted. If you have any suggestions for this proposal, please put them in the comments section.

{{scroll box|content= Proposer: {{User|Super Mario Bros.}} Deadline: 17:00, Monday, 25 May 2009

Create New Rule

 * 1) Per my reasons above.

Leave As Is

 * 1) - I don't think we really need a rule for this as it's more of a matter of common sense. In general, Sysops will delete obviously offensive material.
 * 2) Per Ghost Jam- leave it to the Sysops.
 * Per Ghpost Jam. Why make a rule for everything? The list of rules on the proposal page is way too long already, anyway.
 * 1) Per that ghosty thing up there. Some people could also take offense to certain things, while other don't. (Take the Mario Hentai debate a few months back for example. Many hardcore MarioWikians wanted to add information on it as long as it was official; others didn't want it because it would 'taint' the community.)
 * 2) Per Stooben Rooben. Hehehe. Hentai. Perfect example.
 * 3) - Per all.
 * 4) - Per GJ & Stooby
 * 5) - Per everybody, that sounded weird, Per all.
 * 6) - Yes the patroller r for that, but why not we have a Warn button on some places like forums it works...

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