Talk:List of weapons in Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle

Where to get the stats
I'll continue to do the pictures of the weapons, but for everyone else doing work on this article, here's a video that shows off all the weapons and their stats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2QxEPoRSKU -- 14:33, 14 September 2017 (EDT)

Trivia section
That trivia section is long. It also doesn't even seem to be trivia, as it's information that's about the weapons themselves (and some are rather pointless. "The Luigi's Longshot weapon is based on the design of Luigi, the character that can use said weapon." ???). I'm told there was talk (on Discord) about integrating the information into the tables themselves, but how would that work? Using the Matter Splatter weapon as the example, here's some suggestions (using "Reference" as the stand-in word, but that can be changed to something else if needed):


 * Option 1 (Stick reference on the end)

Just tag the information on the end. Probably my preferred choice. It will make the already lengthy table lengthier, but that's fine by me.


 * Option 2 (Place reference on bottom of section)

Place the information on the bottom, between the different weapons. Will look clunky, so not preferred, but still better than what we have already.


 * Option 3 (Place with in game information)

Place the bit below the in game information. Looks odd, but saves room.

See comment from Eldritchdraaks.
 * Option 4 (Eldritchdraaks's idea)

See comment from Mister Wu.
 * Option 5 (Mister Wu's Idea)

There's nothing terribly wrong with the current list, it's just long and scattered.
 * Option 6 (Do nothing)

Proposer: Deadline: November 22nd, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Option 1

 * 1) - Preferred choice.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) I think this option is probably the best, it prevents confusion with any in game descriptions, and although there will be empty sections, there already are some so it wouldn't make much difference.

Option 2

 * 1) I doubt this will win but, Per Proposal

Option 3

 * 1) - Second choice.
 * 2) I think that's the cleanest choice, because I don't think all weapons have a reference. Too many entries would suffer from inconsistent or empty sections with all of the rest. Option one is also a very miserable choice for narrower screen-computers: we want to avoid side scrolling as much as possible.
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Per proposal
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per Baby Luigi
 * 7) This seems like the easiest and most logical choice. Per all.

Option 4

 * 1) - per comment

Option 5

 * 1) Mister Wu's idea looks promising.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) - Per all. This keeps the description and notes separate and also allows notes other than references to be added.
 * 4) - I'll root for this one, too.
 * 5) Per all

Comments
The list could remain long as it is, but we could use the ref tag to link them to the bottom of the page for easier sorting. -- 20:10, 8 November 2017 (EST)

@Baby Luigi: For the resolution thing, the table will remain the same size anyway. I have a pretty small monitor, and it's fitting. 20:03, 8 November 2017 (EST)

remove


 * I'm assuming that's what you want to happen? 20:10, 8 November 2017 (EST)

What do you think about this? (Edited version, it had reference before in place of notes)

This way we could have a cleaner separation between description and reference while using just a single row when only the description is needed.--Mister Wu (talk) 08:03, 9 November 2017 (EST)

I think the word we're looking for is Notes, not Reference. 09:39, 9 November 2017 (EST)
 * We can also put notes, in the example given it was references, but probably notes is more appropriate indeed.--Mister Wu (talk) 09:44, 9 November 2017 (EST)


 * Notes would work better. Splitting option 4 to accommodate the two suggestions (and moving votes accordingly), and I'll cap it here. Don't want there to be too many requests for how this should be done :P 10:53, 9 November 2017 (EST)
 * I updated the table with notes in place of references, in case please tell me if there are other correction on the text to be made.--Mister Wu (talk) 11:05, 9 November 2017 (EST)

I still really hate the extra cell for references/notes in Mister Wu's option. It's going to have mighty, gaping inconsistencies with the rest of the list in this article, and I think it's harder to navigate and find information you want that way. I still think Option 3 and Option 4 are the best routes to take, as they don't really mess around with the overall presentation by having an inconsistent number of cells per row. I also don't like how the cell below the description has no point of any kind, potentially confusing readers. 04:38, 17 November 2017 (EST)

Immunnities
Rabbid Kong and Icicle golem are immune to all super effects, so could someone change the table on super effects? (Idk how) PinkYoshiFan (talk) 09:49, 25 December 2017 (EST)

Two Weapons Missing
I noticed that two weapons are missing, both of which are rockets belonging to Rabbid Luigi: Agro Torpedo V2 and Big Spike V2. Agro Torpedo V2 does vamp damage and Big Spike V2 does stone damage.

Both of these weapons are the only weapons that are exclusive to Superbrawl. Speaking of Superbrawl, shouldn't we list how much damage all the weapons do in Superbrawl, since they are very different from Story Mode? Taric25 (talk) 02:51, 1 February 2018 (EST)
 * I was taking a look at Superbrawl, as I've not played it yet, and I don't know where you see the weapons, like by name, in that mode.-- 11:44, 1 February 2018 (EST)
 * Nevermind, I see it now. No, it looks unlikely that we would add those weapons as we can't view all the same stats as the weapons in storymode. It would be better to record the full skill sets on a differnt page, which would include the weapons stats. -- 11:58, 1 February 2018 (EST)
 * That seems reasonable. Where do you think we should list that information? Taric25 (talk) 13:47, 4 February 2018 (EST)
 * probably on a page for versus mode/superbrawl. I've got a bunch of info on the mode saved on my sandbox page (go to my profile and click the flaming head picture).-- 16:37, 4 February 2018 (EST)
 * It looks like you have nice work so far. Perhaps I missed it, but where are the names of the weapons? Also, don't you think we should put a note under Rabbid Luigi's section in this article that he has two weapons not listed here in Superbrawl? Taric25 (talk) 12:56, 17 February 2018 (EST)
 * I didn't include the weapon names. None of it matters as the stats for all the heroes weapons in that mode appear to be different from the stats in story mode, making the important info the skill sets instead, no the weapons. It could be confusing since you can't change weapons anyways, only skill sets.-- 15:24, 17 February 2018 (EST)
 * While the stats are different, we should at least list the weapon names somewhere. Also, some stats are visible in-battle during Superbrawl. Taric25 (talk) 00:05, 10 April 2018 (EDT)