Talk:Fire Piranha Plant

Move to Fire Piranha
As with this (where I also shared a comment), "Venus Fire Trap" is not a widely used name for this enemy within the games it is present. As far as I know, this name was used only in the SMB3 manual (I ignore if there is another source material that uses the name) but other than that, recent games, like Paper Mario: Sticker Star, and official strategy guides commonly use the name "Fire Pirahna". So in the way Podoboo got renamed to Lava Bubble because of similar issues, Venus Fire Trap should be renamed to Fire Piranha.

Proposer: Deadline: July 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - Per Proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal

Oppose

 * 1) I should say, that's not valid enough to rename this article. Even after Paper Mario: Sticker Star, they are still called Venus Fire Traps. If it moves, then Venus Ice Trap would have to move to Frost Piranha. When you say Podoboo renamed as Lava Bubble was an issue, it's like you include the Venus Fire Trap in the problem. It doesn't have to change simply because of it.
 * 2) Per Ludwig.
 * 3) Per All

Comments
There is actually no verification from an offical source about the name "Venus Ice Trap" being official name either, and given the fact the name Venus Fire Trap is not use in modern-day materials, gives me the impression "Venus Ice Trap" is actually a conjeture name, something the article isn't actually verificating in case it is official. About Frost Piranha, well, there has been a long history of similar enemies with different names and from different games, like Tanoombas and Tail Goombas. Nobody say they were the same, though. Besides, given what I pointed, there's apparently no official name out there for the so-called "Venus Ice Trap" so a distinctive can be used instead. In such case, Ice Piranha (do not confuse it with the Japanese for Frost Piranha "Ice Piranha Plant") would be the fittest name.
 * Venus Fire Trap's name doesn't have to be changed. But at some points, ordinary Piranha Plants, also their giant relatives also spit fire. I have a theory... Fire Piranhas are supposedly Venus Fire Traps. But Fire Piranha Plant seemingly describe every Piranha Plants capable of spitting fireballs, the Jumping Piranha Plants spit fireballs, even at some points ordinary Piranha Plants spit fireballs as well. Venus Fire Trap sounds more like a name specifically for Piranha Plant species who are specially affiliated with fireballs despite hating them from their usual foe.--Prince Ludwig (talk) 11:51, 18 July 2013 (EDT)
 * Venus Fire Trap's name doesn't have to be changed. But at some points, ordinary Piranha Plants, also their giant relatives also spit fire. I have a theory... Fire Piranhas are supposedly Venus Fire Traps. But Fire Piranha Plant seemingly describe every Piranha Plants capable of spitting fireballs, the Jumping Piranha Plants spit fireballs, even at some points ordinary Piranha Plants spit fireballs as well. Venus Fire Trap sounds more like a name specifically for Piranha Plant species who are specially affiliated with fireballs despite hating them from their usual foe.--Prince Ludwig (talk) 11:51, 18 July 2013 (EDT)