MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine) with King Boo. (Discuss) Deadline: July 2, 2014, 23:59 GMT.
 * Split from Paragoomba. (Discuss) Deadline: July 4, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Split and  from Koopa Kid. (Discuss) Deadline: July 9, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Gold Mario (character) to Gold Mario (form) (Discuss) Deadline: July 9, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Kat and Ana's Swords with Kat and Ana (Discuss) Deadline: July 10, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Giant Star with Grand Star (Discuss) Deadline: July 13, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Create Easter Egg Pages
We have glitch and beta element pages, not to mention the Easter Egg page, so I suggest we make pages like "Super Mario 3D Land/Easter Eggs". This would include the UFO, the weird alien at the end of that one ghost house, and any other easter eggs ingame.

Thoughts?

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.

Oppose

 * No, the easter egg page should be in the rispective articles.
 * 1) - Per Ghost Jam and Mario in the comments: subpages are unnecessary, just focus on fixing up Easter egg and maybe adding sections in applicable game pages.
 * 2) There just aren't enough easter eggs in any given game to split off their own page. They're just fine being incorporated into the article.
 * 3) Per Vommack.
 * 4) Per Vommack.
 * 5) Per Vommack and Walkazo.
 * 6) Per Walkazo.
 * 7) Per my comments below.

Comments
Are there enough Easter Egg in each game to merit it's own articles?
 * I don't think there should be it is own article on Easter Eggs. It should be within it is appropriate article. 02:41, 28 June 2014 (EDT)

I'd be much more in favor of either expanding Easter Egg to include everything we have documentation of or working Easter egg sections into relevant articles. -- Chris 02:53, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * To be honest, I think that this would easily go into the Glitches section, but the idea of "Easter Eggs" is so vague, it would be better not to include them at all. -  03:17, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Easter Egg's article formatting is terrible, though, so it probably needs some overhauling. 03:25, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I mean an Eater Egg is such abroad subject, such as a minor glitch, background image or course development. It isn't really worth bothering to make or include. Like the Book that appears in Sunshine would likely fall into an Easter Egg section, but it's in the glitches. Other things, such 3D World's Zelda based stage, is easily mentioned in the article or trivia. I would rather get rid of it altogether and find a better place for the info. - 03:30, 28 June 2014 (EDT)

Okay, I see that no one wants a new page. But notice that there are no sections for this either? Easter eggs aren't given enough attention. Peanutjon (talk) 22:44, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Delete the accounts of vandals
I'd figure since we do have an extension to delete accounts, then why don't we just use it on vandals instead and delete most of the few blocked vandal accounts so that they are out of the wiki's records. It is a proper way of disposing vandals on the wiki when they join first and vandalize a few pages and get permablocked forever. Besides if a vandal did put a few not vandal edits and did vandalize a few more pages then it's probably safe to delete that vandal's account when he gets permabanned. That is sweet victory there and besides the vandal user accounts are unnecessary and should be deleted to remove any traces of their records on the Wiki. Let's say if a vandal like Marshall Dan Poop has created a million more accounts to vandalize the wiki then we can delete all of his other accounts. However, the admins can keep some accounts for records if needed in the future. So who's with me? Proposer: Deadline: July 7, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) Once a permanently blocked vandal, always a permanently blocked vandal. Besides, we can't keep track of wiki records and logs all the time.
 * 2) There are reasons we don't do this already.

Comments
Sounds like an idea, but I want to see the reasoning behind not deleting them in the first place. Anyone got an explanation? - 03:50, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Off the top of my head, we keep banned accounts so as to retain a record of activity should we ever need it. It also has the side benefit of locking the name down so it can't be used again, any new accounts gimping the name are obviously the same guy returning. Single purpose accounts or accounts that have made few edits that are all destructive in nature are deleted on a case by case basis. We used to make it a practice to delete the forum accounts of banned users along with purging all their posts, but I'm not sure if we still do that or not. In any case, I feel that this proposal stretches a bit far into administrative oversight, so I'm against it in principle.-- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 04:00, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
 * He's got a point though. This is more of an admin thing. Maybe you should contact one of 'em first and ask. So my question is, is there a way of blocking the name while also deleting the pages related to that user AND keep a record of their edits? - 04:18, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
 * If they have a userpage, we can delete that. Sockpuppet talk pages are also supposed to be deleted, but we usually leave the original/singular vandal talk pages if they have Warnings on them for the record, especially if the account also made good edits before going off the rails. If the name's bad, we can suppress it at the same time we block it, plus there's the rename extension for going back and changing things well after the fact if we so choose. It's a pretty solid system already, and I agree with Ghost Jam that this vote is inappropriate in principle: like Ninelevendo said, if someone has an idea, by all means, let us hear it, but how we run admin business is ultimately our choice, and not something that can be decided for us with a proposal. -
 * I'm not really understanding the benefit of this. As for the "sweet victory", I was usually just satisfied with blocking them. The only benefit I personally see is (at least I believe) that that username becomes available for re-use, but given the fact that majority of the username of vandals consist off "Ggggjughj" or "Agnaigohnvaigjsnvsojfeingev", it's not that big of a deal. And if one of our user does find a username they like (somehow) out of the list of vandals blocked, we could always delete accounts and use our rename feature. But seeing as we gain no benefit for deleting all vandals...I just don't see the point.
 * I'm saying not to delete all vandals accounts. I'm saying that most vandal accounts can be deleted and not all of them should be deleted.
 * I'm just not seeing the gain/benefit of deleting vandal accounts, they're blocked and not doing any harm. Seems like extra work for minimal gain. The only benefit I see is what I outlined earlier along with a resolution that doesn't involve deleting all accounts, or as you changed it to "most" accounts. What's the criteria you'd be proposing on which get deleted and which ones don't?

Improving Mario Party boards articles
I was looking on DK's Jungle Board from Mario Party and I find that the article isn't completely right. There are some improvements that can be made not only in this article, but in every article.
 * A map and a space counter would be useful to let the reader know all the infos on the board. By doing so, the reader can know the difficulty of the course in games that are not Mario Party. And having a map would be useful in boards where there isn't an image (like Eternal Star).
 * Adding headers for results screen and events would be useful. Writing everything in a single paragraph don't help the reader to read. So the opinion is making a level 2 header for the plot before and after playing, another level 2 headers for the event that are splitted in level 3 headers (something like this is in DK's Jungle Ruins from Mario Party 9).

(Please don't write your name in "Oppose" if you're wrong with an idea; instead, if you can't tollerate the articles with one of my ideas, write it in the comments! Thanks for reading and understanding!)

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) It's my proposal.
 * 2) This is a good idea, because more useful info will be added to these articles.
 * 3) As long as the info is relevant with the boards, I'm fine with that.
 * 4) Awesome. Stuff like star locations should be good too, since they appeared in like six spaces in the GCN versions with no randomization at all.
 * 5) As noted in the comments below, this doesn't need to be a proposal, either bring it up on the forums or individual article talk pages. That said, I agree with the principle behind this.

Comments
This doesn't need a proposal at all. If the information is official and it will help organize things better, go for it! The list of orbs/items/spaces and boards weren't the result of a proposal, it was the result of ways to organize the article better and a general improvement 15:50, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Although if you're going to make a major revamp on a lot of pages, I'd suggest making an example on a sandbox page and running it past a few users for their opinions.--Vommack (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I did similar things when I was new(er). Like making a proposal about making a tennis court template. You don't actually need this proposal, I mean look at what happened to Toad Highlands thanks to me and . It's become the set standard to making or improving golf course articles. Therefore you may do a similar thing here. I'd be willing to help. - 17:10, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Here you go! For both samples go here: User:Tsunami/Sandbox
 * I don't know about you, but I think the extensively detailed spaces are kinda ugly, they could fit into a nicely organized table. There are so many sections with very small amount of information. I guess it would be better if the whole events section was merged with the starting paragraph. Here is a link of how the article would look like as in your sandbox.-- 06:33, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
 * After looking better, you're right... Maybe the spaces can go on the main page or in the Space page. The main reason I propose this was the events that need expansion (the Coin Stone thing isn't in the article). But I think that the Jungle Adventure page is disorganized... Another way is making the "Layout" section, with a general description, then the subsection "Events"... but "Plot" I think that would remain (and I was thinking about merging quotes with it).
 * Too many headers: better to merge the Ending with Plot and get rid of the subheaders for the events, and as mentioned earlier, the space counter could be a small table in the the Layout section. A few other things also need fixing up with that draft. I made my own revision to the sandbox to show my ideas of how it could be done (minus the chart). -
 * OK, now it is good. But since there are some supports, I think that I can keep this until the deadline to see if we can make even better the basis. I'll edit my sanbox

Moving DIY quotes to top page
I think that the description quotes from the minigames shall be on the top of the page (since there are 90 pages to modify it's better to ask).

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) I think it looks better than having the description all by itself in a section with just one old sentence.

Oppose

 * 1) I don't see why it should be moved from the infobox.
 * 2) Per Vommack.
 * 3) Meh, it looks messier that way. If you're dying to know what actually happens in Hide and Go BOOM!, then read the article.
 * 4) Per Vommack.

Comments
I don't get what page you're talking about. Can you link it for me? 15:51, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I think he means put a quote at the top of the Minigame article that states the info that the game puts info on. It's rather trivial to be honest, and doesn't really merit a proposal anyway, but he could mean that he's going to simply move it up the page more. So is this supposed to move it up the page or create a quote at the top? - 17:17, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Look at my sandbox
 * The has to go above the quote. -

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.