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Merge M&L (Dream Team and Paper Jam) and PM (Sticker Star) Wigglers with Wiggler
This proposal come from the ideas from this previous proposal and discussion from here and here. This proposal cover Wiggler (Paper Mario: Sticker Star), Wiggler (Mario & Luigi: Dream Team) and Wiggler (Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam).

I think we should merge all these pages with Wiggler (the species article). The reasons that lead me to believe it is better to do this is because all these Wiggler don’t have a different characteristics from the species in general (Wigglers are usually shown to be calm and gentle, but when threatened or attacked, they become angry and chase after their foes, which mostly described the personality of the three Wiggler above).

If we merge all these Wiggler, should we merge the Wiggler from Super Mario Sunshine? No, this Wiggler has a different appearance and also has a different japanese name which means that it is described as a different Wiggler.

When generic enemies appears as boss in Mario Party 9 and 10, they don’t get articles, even if in 10 most of this enemies are known as a mega form (Mega Sledge Bro., Mega Cheep Chomp, Mega Blooper, Mega Mechakoopa and Mega Monty Mole).

The Super Mario Wiki probably don’t have a good indicator of what make a character, a character worthy for a article especially when it comes to generic enemy that appears as boss/playable character otherwise, we would not have this problem and until there is not a rule or something clear for that matter (how generic enemy get the character treatment), we should merge this. Because I think it gives open doors to generic enemies that appear as bosses/playable character getting pages while some others don’t get a pages and it can become difficult to the coverage. Remaining consistent while the administration is considering creating a rule or something that would help in how a generic enemy can be treated as a character is probably the best solution to this problem. I think that discussion for this kind of matter is also required.

Proposer: Deadline: July 8, 2016, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) per proposal
 * 2) per all (in the end there is no reason to keep them split)
 * 3) Better proposal but not the best. See my comments below.
 * 4) I still support the idea of merging those three Wigglers so per proposal.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Merge it! Per all!
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Per all.
 * 1) Per all.

Comments
I still find Wiggler (Super Mario Sunshine) be merge worthy because it behaves like a Wiggler or Big Wiggler would. It gets mad and runs when disturbed and has a flower on its head. The only difference is its death sequence and color. That is how we are going to distinguish it? It should be merged with Wiggler (because of name) or Big Wiggler (because of size). -- 23:07, 30 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I'm normally one to agree to merging something under this situation (as I've made clear here), but it's clear that because that Wiggler has a notable name in Japanese that it qualifies as being described as a different wiggler all together, as LudwigVon said. It's the same deal with other enemies with this similarity: the aforementioned Piranha Plants from TTYD are split because multiple things imply that they are different all together, despite similar looks and acts. The multiple proposals on the Parabuzzy/Para-Beetle relations clearly show they are different enemies, regardless of same Japanese/different English names. Sunshine's Wiggler is the same case: different Japaneses name implies that it's a boss amongst Wigglers, it probably just didn't make it through English translating. 23:30, 30 June 2016 (EDT)

Split Donkey Kong Jungle Beat levels from their kingdoms
I brought this up on the game's talk page but no one responded at all.

Currently, we inexplicably don't have any articles for the levels in this game. Instead, the level details are given in the articles for the kingdoms (essentially worlds). This contradicts the whole wiki, where even small worlds like the ones in Wario World have their levels split off.

Ergo, we should split the levels into their own articles. Seriously, is there any reason not to split them off?

Proposer: Deadline: July 14, 2016 at 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - Per proposal. The only things we gain from having these merged are blatant inconsistency and an added layer of tedium for anyone trying to find articles on the levels in this game.
 * 2) - This is indeed the most consistent course of action. I have one question, though; where will the information for the boss battles be left? In the articles for the kingdoms? I haven't played the game so I don't know what would make the most sense.
 * 3) Well, we have to split levels in articles anyway. It's pretty much the standard for this wiki.
 * 4) I'll take it! If the Start Dash was split from the Rocket Start, why not this? Per all on this case because the levels must have their own pages!
 * 5) Why do we need a proposal for this? I get the feeling that the work to create these level pages was abandoned or never gotten around too. The Worlds of Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 3 have this issue as well. See World 2 (Super Mario Bros.) and World 1 (Super Mario Bros. 3) for examples to see what I mean.
 * 6) Per All
 * 7) Yeah we should split them so we can find more information on the levels as well like we have with SPM's levels.
 * 8) It doesn't require a proposal since it's consistent with policy.

Comments
Question: is there anything that's actually preventing the levels from being split, like a proposal or a large discussion? 23:40, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Now that you mention it, if there's nothing like that they could just be split. I understand the proposer's intent, which is likely to get some input as he got none in the talk page, but if there is nothing preventing them from being split it can just be done. -- 23:42, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I kind of figured a proposal wouldn't actually be necessary for this; it was just the easiest way to generate discussion since my talk page post was ignored entirely. I couldn't find any discussion regarding the levels in this game, and since not a single one of these kingdoms had their levels split off, I was legitimately unsure if there was an actual reason why they were merged or that simply no one bothered to split them yet. So if this proposal is unnecessary, then yeah, I'd like to split these ASAP.


 * BTW, about those boss battles: There isn't much to say about them since much like other Donkey Kong bosses, they have their own stages. The details of these battles are usually given in the bosses' articles. (VS. Cactus King and VS. Ghastly King are exceptions since those have actual level content.) 21:53, 8 July 2016 (EDT)


 * Okay you wanna hear my opinion: we should split them because we have all the Super Paper Mario areas split e.g.. The Basement Face-Off and The Menace of King Croacus so we should split them and I've barely played the game and I would like more information just in case I do get it thanks :). 21:57, 8 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Yeah, talk pages are sometimes a hit-or-miss if you want answers. It's why I regularly check any changes to mainspace talk pages, though I wasn't available the past few days. I understand your frustration. 22:30, 8 July 2016 (EDT)
 * My solution is to post on the forums about stuff. You're almost guaranteed to get someone to notice it, and though it may be buried by a previous conversation in the thread, it's much less likely to get buried than if you just posted on a talk page on the wiki. 22:47, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

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