Talk:Mario Golf (series)

"If your game sucks baldy"? come on, Elite Yoshi. 03:32, 2 Apr 2006 (EDT)
 * I did a small cleanup on the article; however, I'm too lazy to get a picture. :P Evan

Did I change that too much?
Anywho... the article now covers the entire series. I did this because there are two games in the series called Mario Golf. It's sort of like a very glorified disambiguation page now :). What do you guys think?  I'm pretty sure that the old article's info is still in there.
 * You did a fine job, but, I stress that you use two equal signs inbetween headers, not one. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 23:32, 10 August 2006 (EDT)

Right. I'll try to remember. :) by the way, what's the single equal sign for, then? Stumpers
 * The = creates a header the same size as the page title itself (in this article, as big as Mario Golf). Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 10:38, 15 August 2006 (EDT)


 * Thx. Still don't know what you'd ever want to use it for, but it's good to have :)!  o.0

Dont deleat!
Dont deleat the "for a list of charecter quotes see List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series " It needs to be there so that List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series has links leading to I'm not saying dont edit it I'm just saying leave the link. Dark boo

Unlockable Mario
Mario Golf (N64) is the only game I know of where Mario is unlockable. I think we should point that out in the article.

Move Mario Golf (Nintendo 64) to
The same as Mario Tennis for the Nintendo 64. It would be better so we don't get confused with the others in the series.

Proposer: Deadline: November 1, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Move to

 * 1) Per me

Leave as it is

 * 1) Per my reasoning on the Mario Tennis proposal.
 * 2) And I'll say it here too - no, no, no, no, no... and a THOUSAND times no. The title for this article is fine enough. Don't change it.
 * 3) The article is fine now...
 * 4) - Mario Golf 64 is not the official name of that game.
 * 5) - Per M&SG.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) - We use official names for our articles, and that would be "Mario Golf", not "Mario Golf 64".
 * 8) And that's why we have disambiguation pages. And it's not like they're all called Mario Golf (that would be stupid of Nintendo). Per all.
 * 9) It might be nice; however, note that Mario Golf 64 is not the official name for this game. Mario Golf is, so therefore we must keep the name as it is.
 * 10) See my reply in the Mario Tennis proposal.

Comments
This proposal had the same problem as the other one did; the mainland United States would have the deadline on October 31, but GMT has it at November 1.

Golf as the initial Mario Golf game?
OK I'm a bit doubtful whether Golf is the intial Mario Golf game, and I don't think it is the case, because of the following points: the first, Golf was part of a series of Sport games released for the Famicom which also included games like Baseball, Soccer (Football), Ice Hockey, Tennis, etc., other wise Tennis or Soccer (Football) would been the first game in the Mario Tennis and Maro Strikers seies (well Mario isn't in the latter but is a referi in Tennis). Second, these game in their original Japanese releases didn't use Mario to sell (even if he appeared in a cameo like the former Tennis), something NOA did, who exploited Mario's image to make in boxarts and manuals to make this games commercial in the western. Third, as such, the golfer in the original game is not Mario but someone called Ossan (middle age man), you are considering this a game of the Mario Golf series just because NOA affirmed the golfer is Mario but in Japan it isn't, then we enter in a conflict here (Ossan's appearance is also verificated on Captain Rainbow). NES Open Tournament Golf has more potencial being the first, or the precursor, game in the Mario Golf series because it is clear Mario is in the game.

Considering NES Open Tournament Golf a "predecessor"
While I concede that Golf and probably by extension Family Computer Golf are fairly predecessorial(?), NES Open Tournament Golf was called Mario Open Golf in Japan and introducd the use of original humans who follow the Mario aesthetic, along with the more comprehensive gameplay regarding clubs. Sure, it was before Camelot, the Nintendo 64 game seems more like a logical progression of its ideas in the same way Toadstool Tour is to the N64 game. I think NES Open Tournament Golf should be considered the first game in the actual series, since before that is a little hazy. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:06, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * It's kind of the same reason why Mario's Tennis is an indirect predecessor to the Mario Tennis series: the developer involved. The Mario Tennis and Mario Golf series are "direct" in the sense that they are all developed by Camelot. Similarly, the direct Mario Kart games are those developed in-house by Nintendo EAD, not by Bandai Namco (for the arcade games). This is how I understand it. MarioComix (talk) 18:27, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * Devs change sometimes tho Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:49, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I'm with Doc, a series isn't solely defined by its developers, Mario Party is another good example. That being said, a Mario golf game doesn't necessarily make a Mario Golf game. I'm unsure how to proceed here. -- 19:04, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * "a Mario golf game doesn't necessarily make a Mario Golf game" That's exactly what I've been saying about Mario's Tennis. RickTommy (talk) 19:25, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * Golf and Famicom Golf were just golf games that happened to star Mario (ambiguously in the first case). NES Open Tournament Golf was a Mario game centered around golf. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:54, October 31, 2019 (EDT)

Split Golf (series) from Mario Golf (series) as a predecessor?
So the "predecessor/spinoff" list on this page is already a veritable series in its own right, with Golf, Family Computer Golf: Japan Course, Family Computer Golf: US Course, and Mobile Golf. From what I can see, the series name here is simply "Golf," with Mario Golf being in turn a spinoff of it. I think it perhaps should be its own article in the same manner as Famicom Grand Prix (series). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:42, July 5, 2023 (EDT)