MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code (~).

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
 * 10) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as 'NO QUORUM'
 * 11) A user calls the result of the proposal and takes action(s) as decided if necessary, and archives the proposal.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

New Features
None at the moment.

Unoffical Music Articles
We have articles on Music on this Wiki. Quite a few of them are official CD's released by Nintendo, or some Company associated with Nintendo. BUT! It also seems we have articles on music that were NOT put on official CD, aka, In-game songs and themes (an example being List of Songs in Super Smash Bros. Melee, which is listing the music tracks in the actual game, but NOT the music tracks on the Official CD). I propose we remove all In-game songs and themes, and keep only the music articles on official soundtracks that were released by a REAL Company.

Proposer: Pokemon DP Deadline: 22:00, Oct. 24

Remove all In-game songs and themes

 * 1) I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above.

Keep Them

 * 1) If the songs were ripped from the game, they are official. 23:18, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) Per Plumber.
 * 3) Nintendo is an official company, obviously, so by your arguement we should be keeping them rather than removing them, as long as we note that the tracks in question did not appear on the official CD.  Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean we can't post about them.  I mean, we have an article about Hotel Mario, but that wasn't affiliated with Nintendo even.  Nintendo's offical music should be in then, right?

Comments
I don't think we should completely get rid of them. There should be a track listing in the game's own article. -- Son of Suns
 * Heres a good compromise. Remove the lists, move them to the appropriate articles and replace the names with those from the official sound tracks. No official name? Then it's not on the list. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 14:00, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
 * We agree with SoS, the song's aren't officially named, but they are official. - Walkazo and PP
 * I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying.
 * 1. List of Songs in Super Mario Kart, move all that crap to Super Mario Kart (including download link).
 * 2. If the name of those tracks can't be verified, add a citation needed tag next to it.
 * 3. Run through all the articles about published game OSTs. Track for SMK have a name on one of those albums? Use that one in the article instead of X Theme. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 01:36, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

DP: We just meant that the somgs are conjectural, but still valid. It's a shame we can't get official names (same with all other conjectural information), but the info itself is still canocal and worthy of a place on the wiki. - Walkazo
 * OK, can we, instead, remove those In-Game articles and merge them with the actual game article? If so, you can completely ignore this Proposal.
 * But if an actual soundtrack has been released onto a CD, that article is kept, correct? -- Son of Suns
 * Tough call, I know how you want every named Mario-related thing to have an article, SoS, but how much could we really write about these songs? How long they are, what CDs and/or video games they're in, whose theme songs they are (if applicable), the actual lyrics... but what else? Maybe all the officially-named songs should be put in articles for the CDs they're relased on (to make sure we don't end up with a bunch of stubs that get deleted). And as DP said, all the unnamed songs can just be part of the game articles. - Walkazo

Quotes?
Lately i've been searching around the wikis quotes, and have seen quotes like "whupee heeheeheehee!" when thats just a bunch of giberious and also something like AHHH!!! thats just someone yelling! should we get rid of these?

Proposer: Master Crash Deadline: 22:00, Nov. 4th

Remove

 * 1) my Reason is given above
 * 2) Glowsquid I agree, quotes like "AHHHH!!!!" are useless and make the wiki look less professional.
 * 3) they are very useless quotes that make us seem like we well add any thing to articles.
 * 4) A perfect example of a good quote, can be seen on Snake's article. Quotes like "AHHHH!!!!" have no meaning, as Glowsquid says.
 * 5) &euro;zlo
 * 6) Zakor1138 'Nuff said.
 * 7) -Quotes are supposed to tell us about the character.
 * 8) - Quotes from the gibberish sounds from Superstar Saga are as useless as quotes saying "I'm the best", as there are a dozen of other characters with exactly the same or a very similar quote.

Keep

 * 1) DELETING QUOTES? They're lots of fun! C'mon, keep them!

Comments
At the very least, they shouldn't be the lead-in quote. -- Son of Suns

I'm conflicted on this one. True, things like "Ahhh!" are a bit redundant in principle. But if you know the context it could have meaning. For instance, in one of the Mario Party games, Peach goes, "Booooo!" Alone that sounds like a pointless, generic utterance, but if you actually hear it, it's hilarious! All in all, I just can't decide which way to vote. - Walkazo


 * See, most of the point in the quote on the page is to show the personality of the character. So, unless the screams have something to do with the personality of the character, remove them. Example: Instead of having "Princess Peach!" as Peach's quote have "Oh? Did I win?" so we can see a bit about her personality...and stuff like that... http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif
 * Definately get rid of them from the "main quote" thing, but can you leave them in the article? Check out Daisy's quote page for what I'm talking about.  22:49, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Arend: I don't think you understand, this proposal won't delete ALL quotes, only boring and generic one like "AHHH!!!" or "I'm the best!'. Glowsquid

"What Other Users Think Of Me Lists"
These things are just dumb. We got rid of Cool User Lists, and these are only worse. As you can most likely see, they have caused nothing but bad, and flame wars. Some of these might be OK(Like Xzelion's), but others go over the limit(Like Pokemon DP's, even if they are all MY quotes. <_<). These are mostly just the depressed people trying to make themselves look more hated, anyway, *continues into a long rant about DP that would getting him ****ing banned if he actually said it*. Therefor, I propose that we ban these, as we did with the Cool User Lists(Which NEVER ACTUALLY CAUSED ANYTHING!).

Proposer: Uniju :D

Remove

 * 1) I am the proposer, and, blah, blah, blah...
 * 2) Just as bad as the cool users list.
 * 3) Same boat as Cool Users lists. If someone really wants to know about someones past, they can look in the contribution history.

Keep

 * 1) Hey, if someone flames someone, the Wiki has a right to know about it! These lists show which people have flamed who, allowing them to get what they deserve when they flame. And, you only made this proposal because you are mad at me for adding all of your flames towards me onto my list. You coult end up becoming banned for what you wrote on this Proposal!
 * 2) Zakor1138 Just cause its for good intentions. So what? If you act like a lurdo everyone should know 'bout it.
 * 3) Glowsquid - See my comment below.
 * 4) I was against getting rid of cool user lists, and now people are still getting into flame wars without them. But i'm still against restricting stuff you can put on your userpage.
 * 5) Per Peachycakes, just because some might misuse it doesn't mean for me that nobody should be allowed to use it.

Comments
DP: -_-' Why do YOU ALWAYS THINK THAT MY REASONS ARE SELF-CENTERED? WHY THE H*** CAN'T YOU JUST DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT I'M NOT DOING THINGS FOR ONLY MYSELF!!!!!
 * Did I see some anger? It is the path to the dark side! Zakor1138
 * Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down, Uniju. You continue like that, you will get in BIG trouble.

I think we should just change it to "Feedback". There should be no negative things. This wiki is not about pointing out if someone says something rude. Why can't people just ignore it?
 * If you flame someone, you should get in trouble for it. You shouldn't be able to get away with anything bad that you do.
 * Which is why we have Sysops, suspensions and bans. Making black-lists only adds to the problem. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 15:13, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

That's true, just don't overdo it. We all know about what happens if it happens a lot, even without quotes.

When I made this list, I had a purely humoristic goal in mind, I didn't try to make myself look hated and other non-sense. You are about the only one that take these lists seriously, and the only one to star flame war over them. As Zakor1138 said, if you act like an idiot, it's only natural for the other to know it. Glowsquid, and the cool user list DID cause my flame wars, check my archive if you don't believe it.

Changes
None at the moment.

Time Machines Page
The Time Machine page consists of three officially named (one being conjectural) Time Machines, all with significant content to have its own article. Also they effect gameplay (sorta).

Proposer: Deadline: October 29th, 17:00

Support Split

 * 1) Per Above
 * 2) Booster -- Three of them are officially named, and have different designs and functions.
 * 3) Walkazo - Per all.
 * 4) Dodoman - Per all (except Walkazo >_>).
 * 5) On one condition: see below.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) -They are from different games, and are for different things.
 * 8) Per all.

Comments
My vote stands as long as we can use the Time Machine page to discuss the concept of time machines... and we could do double duty by listing time machines on the article and making it a psudo-disambiguation page. Sound good? Of course, if you want to just make the article disambiguation until someone gets around to writing it, be my guest. 22:45, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I agree, there is also an unnamed time machine appearing in this comic which could excellently be placed on the Time Machine page.
 * Both good ideas. And Dodoman: "except Walkazo"? Pourquoi?!? - Walkazo

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.