Talk:Mario Kart Tour

True Relase Window?
I may have realized something. This game is said to release "during the next fiscal year". Unless I'm misunderstanding something, wouldn't that mean anytime in between March 2018 and March 2019, and not right in March 2019? This is a bit confusing. -- 22:56, 31 January 2018 (EST)
 * It says "fiscal year ending March 2019", meaning the launch window frame is between now and March 2019. Is there a different way you have in mind to word it? 23:00, 31 January 2018 (EST)
 * I would simplify it to 2018, considering that the "fiscal year ending March 2019" is more or less the fiscal year for 2018. MarioComix (talk) 23:10, 31 January 2018 (EST)
 * I think it should be put to in between April 2018 and March 2019. The slides linked on the wiki page (The 4th reference), on the 15th page, it says "To be released during the next fiscal year (April 2018-March 2019). https://imgur.com/a/AaJyp -- 10:28, 1 February 2018 (EST)
 * I just realized the wiki page pretty much already says what I suggested. Nevermind, then. -- 11:54, 1 February 2018 (EST)

Nothing changed since April
Why is there no changes since April? Benjaminkirsc (talk) 08:08, 22 November 2018 (EST)
 * Because we haven't had any new information since. DK Fan
 * Holy monly. We need to fix this artcle. Benjaminkirsc (talk) 11:56, 23 November 2018 (EST)
 * The article will be fixed once there is more information available about the game. As far as I am aware, the article currently completely covers the very little information that has been released. -- 12:02, 23 November 2018 (EST)
 * Or Nintendo is Fouceing on other projects. I think so to. Benjaminkirsc (talk) 18:11, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Release date and new artwork
[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1166144294115323904 A release date has been unveiled for MK Tour. September 25.] There's also an official Twitter account. --GarfLarf (talk) 20:42, August 26, 2019 (EDT)

New Trailer
With the newest trailer here, we see tons of new elements including tracks based on real-world locations, returning karts such as the Flame Flyer from Mario Kart Wii, and even Diddy Kong as a playable racer. How shall we approach covering this information? MarioComix (talk) 02:43, August 27, 2019 (EDT)


 * On second watch, I've noticed the inclusion of Lakitu (in the first shot of SNES Rainbow Road), Bowser Jr. (during the Bowser Shell segment), the Bill Blaster (used by Junior), the Daytripper (during DS Waluigi Pinball segment), the Prancer (when Koopa Troopa goes underwater), and the Royale (used by Peachette). MarioComix (talk) 03:19, August 27, 2019 (EDT)


 * I've added new sections if you want to add those. 03:32, August 27, 2019 (EDT)

Redirects
Should I add redirects for Mario Kart 9 for this? JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 16:33, August 27, 2019 (EDT)
 * I wouldn't do that. It's conjectural, not a mainline game, and I wouldn't be surprised if we did get an actual Mario Kart 9 somewhere down the road. -- 16:35, August 27, 2019 (EDT)
 * I'd say only do it if the developers acknowledge this in-game or otherwise. 17:38, August 27, 2019 (EDT)

Do Bowser Jr. and Lakitu actually appear in the new trailer?
I cannot seem to see them in the new trailer and if they are not there I think if they are not there in the trailer they should be removed from this page.


 * Bowser Jr. is at 1:10, appearing right at the very end of the clip where Wario uses a Mega Mushroom. --PeabodySam (talk) 21:56, August 27, 2019 (EDT)


 * Read the post two sections above. 22:00, August 27, 2019 (EDT)

Tire customization
Are we 100 percent sure that there's no tire customization in the game? Because there are two instances where Diddy Kong's Barrel Train has both the Standard SFC tires and the Slim tires equipped. SonicSpeed48 (talk) 16:24, September 15, 2019 (EDT)


 * Could be just changes made mid-development, or perhaps it is tire customisation. However, from what I've seen, no sources have mentioned any kind of tire customisation so far, including official sources. They have mentioned picking between karts and gliders, but that's all. MarioComix (talk) 17:17, September 15, 2019 (EDT)

Pink Gold Peach?
Say, if there's a pink gold Pipe Frame body and Super Glider, doesn't that make you wonder if Pink Gold Peach will return? SonicSpeed48 (talk) 09:20, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * I sure hope not... We'll see when the game is released or when she gets announced. We shouldn't add PGP in the article if she was not officially confirmed yet. 09:23, September 24, 2019 (EDT)

Big Update Incoming
I have obtained a decrypted version of the 1.0.1 update, so I am about to upload a bunch of images onto this page. SwampyGator (talk) 11:54, September 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * Don't. If it hasn't been released yet, it shouldn't be mentioned. 21:16, September 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * 1.0.1 is the current version of the game. They just mean they've ripped some images to add to the page. 21:21, September 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * I see. Just reasoned that since he said it was "decrypted", it wasn't released yet. Just because, you know, really everyone has a decrypted version of the current version. 11:47, September 29, 2019 (EDT)

Extracting files from MKT
I've tried and tried to extract files from this game, but the data folder seems to be completely empty. How did you guys extract the files from the game and put them onto here? --Kaidigem (talk) 16:46, October 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * in dr. mario world's case, i used asset studio gui. mario kart tour is a major pain in the ass to sort through though as i've heard it's an unorganized mess. where did you download mario kart tour's contents off of? it should be contained in an apk file, which is pretty much just a .zip in a different name. 16:50, October 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * I downloaded the APK from off my phone and tried to sort through it. It really is an unorganized mess, too; the data file is nearly empty, all that's in the DEX file are a bunch of class files I don't understand, there's a dummy text file that is completely empty, among other things. If anyone knows where the pictures in this article came from, please message me. --Kaidigem (talk) 16:57, October 21, 2019 (EDT)

Editing
Why can't I edit this page? There are a few typos I'd like to fix for myself, since I don't know if anyone else will fix it.

I can barely edit any other pages, anyhow. As in, I don't have the permissions to do so. --Kaidigem (talk) 08:28, November 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * The page is protected because it is receiving constant updates, so we're avoiding any false information. You'll be able to edit it yourself when you are autoconfirmed. For the time being, you can say what you noticed here and someone will fix it. 14:16, November 1, 2019 (EDT)

Meaning behind "tour-exclusive"
As a person without this game, this article isn't doing a good job of telling me, are the "tour-exclusive" entities from previous "tours" now forever unavailable? If so, that should be spelled out specifically, as that sort of....setup is unusual IMO Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:01, November 4, 2019 (EST)
 * The game states that they may become available in future tours. But as of now, they haven't been available outside of their designated tour. MarioComix (talk) 17:33, November 4, 2019 (EST)
 * It's quite typical for a gacha game. 208.95.51.52 18:01, November 5, 2019 (EST)
 * To explain a little more: some karts that are recolor of the normal karts can only be obtained by having the Gold Pass during a Tour, similarly in each Tour there are spotlight characters, karts and gliders that can only be obtained through the launch pipe. Each week there is a new launch pipe with a new spotlight character, kart and glider added. After the Tour is over, all of these can’t be obtained in the following Tour, making them exclusive to the Tour.—Mister Wu (talk) 17:39, November 6, 2019 (EST)

Maximum number of coins during a race confirmed
You can get up to 99 coins per race, as shown in this recent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6W7Agifj4

I don't know where to add this, so I'll just put it here for anyone to put it in the proper place (if it needs to be added). Gold Luigi (talk) 13:46, November 11, 2019 (EST)
 * I added the info in the relevant section, thanks for the link to the video and the information!—Mister Wu (talk) 11:10, November 19, 2019 (EST)

Bullet Blaster with Monster tires
content://media/external/file/119442 Copy and paste this link Look at Bowser Jr., and the Bullet Blaster. Bullet Blaster has monster tires. Is this an error? Eythrius (talk) 21:55, November 18, 2019 (EST)


 * I can't see that file, however this had been covered before that the Bullet Blaster was seen with Monster tires in pre-release materials. We can only assume that it is just that, pre-release material, and was changed for the final product. MarioComix (talk) 23:02, November 18, 2019 (EST)


 * If you want us to actually see the image, don't use a "local to your computer" link. Just upload to an image hosting site or something similar. -- 23:17, November 18, 2019 (EST)

Christmas Tour datamine
It looks like there's been a recent datamine of the characters coming to Mario Kart Tour next. Found proof on Twitter, but only in photo form. SonicSpeed48 (talk) 06:29, December 12, 2019 (EST)
 * Tomorrow is the day of the announcement of the new tour, so we can just wait for that - unused datamined content is far from being uncommon in the whole Mario Kart series.—Mister Wu (talk) 13:59, December 12, 2019 (EST)

beta
multiplayer beta ended. update I am RedoStone (talk) 09:08, December 27, 2019 (EST)
 * Got it, thanks! 10:39, December 27, 2019 (EST)

Engine sounds
For each individual kart page, can you tell us what the engine sounds like? --174.225.15.10 11:39, January 4, 2020 (EST)

Unlike the other games, the karts do not have an engine sound.- CherryBomb314
 * They do have an engine sound, but it isn’t straightforward to extract and add that sound to each kart page, which is why they haven’t been added.—Mister Wu (talk) 18:42, February 24, 2020 (EST)

MKT Driver pic
Okay, I know the next tour is next week, but the driver's pic still needs to be updated. Whoever is able to update it, please do. SonicSpeed48 (talk) 15:56, January 10, 2020 (EST)

Tires?
Why do we need to list these when they're just aesthetics? 208.95.49.167 13:31, January 12, 2020 (EST)
 * Because they've existed in prior games as distinct entities. If we can name and classify them, then we can report that information. MarioComix (talk) 19:20, January 12, 2020 (EST)

So Much No Cover Arts...
Get Artworks For Em Please....


 * Which will be done once the resident dataminers extract those image files from the game's internal files. Please be patient, the Ice Tour has been out for less than a day, while this page has a good track record of keeping up with its updates. MarioComix (talk) 18:07, January 15, 2020 (EST)

Pauline
Should Pauline be moved to the regular high-ends section? At this point she's appeared in three in a row, it's safe to assume she's staying. Also, images will be up soon. Had a busy day. 20:14, January 15, 2020 (EST)
 * Maybe we can put a thing next to her name stating that she was tour exclusive until Holiday? 20:42, January 15, 2020 (EST)
 * If that's the case, sounds right to me. MarioComix (talk) 22:22, January 15, 2020 (EST)

If she's not going to be moved, the Ice Tour at least needs to be added to her list of appearances. But she should really be moved. 208.95.49.53 17:17, January 20, 2020 (EST)

Hi hello please fix this :) 208.95.49.53 16:30, January 23, 2020 (EST)

Original tracks have dropped the "1" again
As of update 1.6.0, looks like the first track in each original series has re-removed the "1" from its name (e.g. "New York Minute 1" is now once again "New York Minute"). Should the wiki be updated to reflect this? --Eth3792 (talk) 02:01, January 28, 2020 (EST)
 * What about the "2" tracks (New York Minute 2, Tokyo Blur 2)? MarioComix (talk) 02:05, January 28, 2020 (EST)
 * Those are still shown as before and should be kept the way they are. Only New York Minute 1, Tokyo Blur 1, and Paris Promenade 1 would need to be changed --Eth3792 (talk) 02:12, January 28, 2020 (EST)
 * Let's sit on it for now, in case they change back again. MarioComix (talk) 03:03, January 28, 2020 (EST)

They are formerly known as that, they are now just "New York Minute" and "Tokyo Blur" and "Paris Promenade". - CherryBomb314 (talk) 09:44, February 8, 2020 (EST)
 * That's my point lol. We should probably wait a couple weeks though to make sure the next update doesn't change them back. --Eth3792 (talk) 12:01, February 8, 2020 (EST)
 * If the Vancouver Tour update keeps their names without the "1", then that might be a good enough indicator to change the names. MarioComix (talk) 16:27, February 8, 2020 (EST)
 * Looks like they have, wanna make the changes? --Eth3792 (talk) 12:26, February 15, 2020 (EST)
 * Yeah we should. 21:25, February 15, 2020 (EST)

I'll work on moving the New York Minute pages to take care of this. If all goes well, I'll do the others tonight. --Eth3792 (talk) 12:20, March 9, 2020 (EDT)

Character Audio
Honestly, I think there should be audio samples for each of the characters, by that I mean when they are selected, I'd especially want that from the high-end spotlights.- CherryBomb314 09:40, February 8, 2020 (EST)

Mario Bros. Tour
The new Mario Bros Tour announcement shows us a new Mario Circuit which does not resemble any of the SNES MCs in layout, but still uses most of the same textures and assets. I find that I don't have any edit permissions on the article (since I'm new) so would it be OK if someone could add the track to the Nitro Tracks section?


 * Let's wait until the tour launches before we categorise it. 06:09, February 21, 2020 (EST)

New characters in the Mario Bros. Tour
There's a silhouette of Mario and Luigi in Twitter's announcement for the Mario Bros. Tour that is different from their in-game artworks. Should we add them as a Mario and Luigi alt characters? We might get a classic outfit alt for both of them. --MatiasNTRM (talk) 13:22, February 21, 2020 (EST)
 * To reply also to the points above (and future similar points dealing with what is hinted by the official Twitter account as well): with these reveals I think it is better to just list what was revealed in the respective Other sections, which is what was done for the new Mario Circuit-like course. When the Tour is released, the appropriate information is then added.—Mister Wu (talk) 13:58, February 21, 2020 (EST)

London Loop 2 and 3DS Rainbow Road R/T images
Can someone add the images for London Loop 2 (etc) and 3DS Rainbow Road R/T in the Courses section? I uploaded them, but I can't edit the article, apparently:


 * File:MKT Icon LondonLoop2C.png
 * File:MKT Icon LondonLoop2CR.png
 * File:MKT Icon LondonLoop2CT.png
 * File:MKT Icon LondonLoop2CRT.png
 * File:MKT Icon RainbowRoad3DSCRT.png

Thanks in advance! — Andreyyshore (talk) 14:34, March 13, 2020 (EDT)


 * It has been done. Just so you know, if you can't edit the article, it's because you likely aren't autoconfirmed.  BMfan08 (talk) 14:51, March 13, 2020 (EDT)


 * Thanks. That was the reason. I am new to the wiki after all. — Andreyyshore (talk) 15:14, March 13, 2020 (EDT)

Driver list picture
Could somebody please update the picture of the full driver list? Doyle06 (talk) 16:51, March 15, 2020 (EDT)

Glider challenge
There was no Glider Challenge on the Vancouver Tour. Please check it as soon as possible to avoid creating confusion. Héctor GDL19 (talk) 15:35, March 16, 2020 (EDT)


 * Fixed, thanks for pointing it out. 21:43, March 16, 2020 (EDT)

Kart, Glider, and certain Character Recolors/Re-skins
I had an idea for labeling new recolors or designs (such as the Red Turbo Yoshi or the Shell Parachute). Instead of calling them new, does it sound like a good idea to label them as a new redesign? Since truely, they aren't new parts, just re-skins of other parts. If so and someone else does this, I would label the Gold Free-running Koopa in the same way, since unlike most other character variants which change the outfit or something, it is just a simple recolor in the way that Shy Guys, Yoshis, and (strangely enough) Birdos are normally done. It is even in the same pose as the Red Free-running Koopa in the way the three previously mentioned characters are. Even if this doesn't seem like a good idea to others, I at least wanted to mention the possibility. March 19, 2020, 15:22 (EST)

This most likely wouldn’t work, because the different color variants of characters such as Yoshi and shy guy have different special items and favored courses. Doyle06 (talk) 09:29, March 24, 2020 (EDT)
 * That was about tagging the characters rather than grouping them, I'd be fine with a symbol pointing then that the character/part is a new variant of an existing character like we do with games such as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with the DX label, but I'm not sure if it would be as clear as the new label. Maybe a NV or NR label?--Mister Wu (talk) 12:57, March 24, 2020 (EDT)

Hey, whatever works for the community at large. I do think it'd need to be clear enough to everyone, but I do think the differentiation would be useful to include somehow. March 25, 2020, 10:38 (EST)
 * P.S. This would mostly only apply to Gliders and Karts. The only two characters this would apply to would be Gold Koopa (Free-running) and Light Blue Birdo, as they are the only new recolors thus far. We'll likely see more of them in the future, since there are actual color-alts of Birdo in Super Mario Bros 2 and Super Mario Advance, and there are six different shell colors of Free-Running Koopas in Super Mario Odyssey. 3/25/20- 15:15 (EST)
 * There's no need to be that specific, distinguishing actually new characters and variants of existing characters is useful.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:26, March 25, 2020 (EDT)
 * I now marked the variants as new variant, try to see if that looks good.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:53, March 25, 2020 (EDT)

I fell like this might be confusing to some people, as the different variants have different special items and favored courses. But I might be overthinking. Doyle06 (talk) 23:24, March 25, 2020 (EDT)
 * We aren’t removing said information, which is still quite visible as far as the ability is concerned, just changing the label near the name.—Mister Wu (talk) 00:09, March 26, 2020 (EDT)

I am so glad that my idea got used. 4/06/20- 17:14 (EST)

RE: Kart, Glider, and certain Character Recolors/Re-skins
I have an issue with this idea: it feels disingenous to mark certain new characters as "variants" when the Mario Kart series has been introducing a different version of the same character as far back as Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (with Baby Mario and Baby Luigi, that is).

Let's think to Mario Kart 8 and the entire list of playable characters that have ever appeared in a Mario Kart game: When Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach were first introduced, they were added to that list of characters; this makes sense, as outside of Metal Mario, who is sometimes portrayed as his own being, there were never any playable versions of powerup forms in a Mario Kart game. And while multiple colored variants of Yoshi and Shy Guy were introduced, they weren't counted as new playable characters as they were only recolors of pre-existing characters that each didn't take a slot of their own. Flash forward to Mario Kart Tour, and you'll see King Boo's appearance from the Luigi's Mansion series, the Penguin Luigi and Ice Mario powerup forms, the golden freerunning Koopa Troopa from Super Mario Odyssey, and a Shy Guy in a chef's outfit, all as playable characters. Huh? Which should get added to the list?

Now, Mario Kart Tour has these "tours" featuring cups all named and designed around characters found in the game, such as the Mario Cup and the Daisy Cup. Most notably, these cups don't star costume or recolored variants of characters, meaning there's no Mario (Happi) Cup nor is there a Pink Shy Guy cup, even when they would otherwise be counted as new characters in the game. There are also cups for different forms of pre-existing characters that were thought to be new characters to the Mario Kart series at the time of their debuts, such as the Baby Mario Cup, the Dry Bowser Cup, and the Metal Mario Cup.

Ultimately, what I'm suggesting is that we take the cups that appear in each Tour as a criteria for what counts as a brand new character to the Mario Kart series and what counts as a new variant; if we were to take this approach, we would be left with Peachette, Pauline, Ice Mario, and Hammer Bro as the only new characters introduced to the Mario Kart series in Mario Kart Tour. It should be no coincidence either that the first three characters are all counted as High-End characters not exclusive to any tour, alongside Metal Mario and Dry Bowser. -- Superstarxalien169  18:41, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


 * I think I would agree with that definition of having a cup = a separate character. Out of the ones listed, only Ice Mario shares animations and voices with another character (Metal Mario), but even then, his voice clips are not as filtered as Metal Mario's. About listing characters as "variants", to me, it boils down to how Mario Kart 8 (which is this game's basis for character animations) made an effort to have every character use different animations. As a result, those characters count as separate characters. In this game, the tour-exclusive variants, for example, share animations and voices with their base character. MarioComix (talk) 19:26, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
 * Well, not really. Yoshi (Egg Hunt) has a few exclusive animations not shared with Yoshi. The system that the game uses for tagging the new driver variants introduced in this game is name of character (name of variant). Ice Mario is not presented as Mario (Ice) and effectively he had his own cup, I wouldn't be surprised if Penguin Luigi will end up with his own cup since he's not presented as a variant either - although cups so far are restricted to drivers available in all the pipes so he'll have to become generally available before that. Funnily, the recolors of Yoshis and Shy Guys (but not Birdos) follow the old naming from Mario Kart 8 and thus aren't presented as variants, although this doesn't affect us since they aren't new either. With all that being said, I'm not sure if tagging just the official variants as new variant is what it's best for us. Pauline and Hammer Bro are way more notable than Ice Mario because those are completely new characters, similarly Red Koopa (Freerunning) is likely one of the Roving Racers, even though the game uses the variant nomenclature for it (and effectively it never had its own cup). Ultimately, the variants weren't a true issue until Mario Kart Tour, now we need to find a system that will be useful for us to properly separate variants from completely new characters. We might use the "they're featured in a cup" criterion or the naming convention criterion, but we need to see if this leads us to miss certain characters (possibly, the Roving Racers) or gives us too many "false positives" (characters who are simply power-up forms rather than completely new characters, like Ice Mario).--Mister Wu (talk) 21:49, April 15, 2020 (EDT)

Minor Issue with Transparency
I happened to notice that the image of Morton used doesn't have a transparent background, while every other character's image does. It's hardly noticeable, but it seems strangely inconsistent and should be adjusted. March 25, 2020, 10:56 (EST)
 * This stems from us not using the artwork ripped from the game, but rather the artwork we already have. It makes sense since a lot of artwork in this game is reused, but this results in Morton not having a transparent background.--Mister Wu (talk) 20:55, March 25, 2020 (EDT)

Point-boost ticket rewards in ranked cups
I noticed that you no longer receive more than 1/2/3 point-boost tickets for becoming 3rd/2nd/1st in the ranked cup, for the tier I am in now. I do not know if this holds for all tiers, but if someone knows, please update the table.Tomoto17 (talk) 06:14, March 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * The amount of point-boost tickets won has been reduced indeed: at rank 35 you get 3 of each type at first place, 2 of each type at second place and just one of each type at 3rd place. At the moment I'm just going to assume that all tiers receive the same rewards in terms of tickets, in case we'll update the table if some tiers still have different rewards.--Mister Wu (talk) 10:04, March 31, 2020 (EDT)

Character Variants
Initially, variants were decided by basically having the name of the base character, and then their "variant"-ness described in the parentheses, such as Mario (Musician), Peach (Kimono), and Mario (Hakama). Upon playing the game more, I realised that variants share animations and voices with the base character, and this became the new basis for variants - they also shared emblems. However, upon Red Yoshi's release, the emblem matter wouldn't stick since he's clearly a variant of Yoshi. Next, Ice Mario fell into a unique situation since he shares Metal Mario's animations but his voice clips do not have the same "metal" filter - this was further compounded by Ice Mario having his own cup, which no other clearly variant character has.

Gold Koopa (Freerunning) counts as a variant of Red Koopa (Freerunning) because they definitely share animations, and Gold Koopa was added after Red Koopa. Whether they should be a variant of Koopa Troopa, I'm not sure, since I don't know if they all share animations. For Hammer Bro and co., I'm not sure if all four of them share animations, but Boomerang Bro appears to be a variant of Hammer Bro. And to reiterate, variants are not decided on the basis of being the same character but with a different appearance - Peachette was never considered a variant (upon the game's release) because she doesn't share voices, animations, or emblem with another character. MarioComix (talk) 21:53, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
 * As I said above, we can't use animations or sound effects as criterion for variant-ness, since Yoshi (Egg Hunt) has different animations from Yoshi and even a different character select voice clip, but it's pretty clearly a variant of Yoshi, as the naming also suggests.--Mister Wu (talk) 22:09, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
 * Well, that's a shock. At least Yoshi (Egg Hunt) has the same emblem as regular Yoshi to point him as a variant of Yoshi. MarioComix (talk) 22:23, April 15, 2020 (EDT)