Talk:Princess Daisy/Archive 1

Should the game appearances and playable-character roles sections be consolidated? That might make more sense. -Stumpers

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Most FAQs and stuff I've read separate starring roles and non-playable appearances. It makes sense. Waluigi Freak 99 14:15, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

It would be also necessary to have a picture of Princess Daisy on a yellow parasol which was from Mario Party 3. --PeachWoman

Relationships
Shouldn't there be a section under Relationships about Wario. After all, he was the real mastermind behind Daisy's kidnapping, so it would be evident that she dislikes Wario, right?

I don't think there would be much to write about...but meh. Fixitup

Kay-O. Come to think about it, nah, leave it out. It would seem wierd, as it is worthless speculation, that has only happened once. I think the relationship to Waluigi section should be removed, though. That is just wierd.

Well I cut the Waluigi section but apparently someone liked it..so i'm not gonna go there. Fixitup

I am sick of this, guys, it is not needed. I am holding a vote, keep the Waluigi section, or get rid of it. AND DON'T VOTE KEEP IT, JUST COS' YOU LIKE WALUIGI!!!

Edition
where are the edition format for each section? the article is too long and i have to change the info chosing the whole article edition. somebody can explain this?

Daisy getting a double bogey or worse
If Daisy is yelling "No, no, no, no, no, no, no!! You KLUTZ!!", who is she yelling it to? --PeachWoman
 * The player messing up. That means Daisy belongs in Category:Characters who break the Fourth Wall. 01:36, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Or she's talking to herself. Depends on your interpretation.  Don't you ever yell at yourself when you've really screwed up?  ...maybe I'm just weird.  19:23, 29 November 2007 (EST)
 * That it does...but how are we going to decide? User:Imperialscouts
 * Well, breaking the forth wall has previously meant mentioning the player for more than that (Lord Crump, for example). I think also the "Get it together..." thing she says is more indication that she is talking to herself, because she's definately not going to go from anger towards us to complete calm.  I could see it only if she was talking to herself the whole time.  Plus, she doesn't make eye contact with the palyer.  01:41, 3 December 2007 (EST)
 * Stumpers: I would agree with you on this. I always yell at myself (and the game. =P) when I screw up. Daisy wasn't facing the player when she said that sentence, so she is very likely talking to herself. The only guys who know, are Nintendo and Camelot! >_> I would say take her out of the Category, but, that's my opinion. =|

Use Pic 2

 * 1) – this is easy. Pic 1 has a white background, while Pic 2 is transparent.
 * 2) Fixitup – Not only does pic 2 have a transparent bg but it has also obviously been made more recently.
 * 3) is more nice
 * 4) Kay-O. This one is better than Pic 1.
 * 1) Fixitup – Not only does pic 2 have a transparent bg but it has also obviously been made more recently.
 * 2) is more nice
 * 3) Kay-O. This one is better than Pic 1.

Comments
Pic 2 wins, just get this over with!

Wha-...what the heck???
Why can't I edit the Daisy page? I can edit othe rpages but not this one...Fixitup
 * It has been protected due to an edit war. When the above poll it closed, it will be unprotected by a sysop again. - 14:16, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Biased?
Daisy's personality secton seems biased to me. How Daisy's always called beautiful as well as a tomboy. I've only seen her called that in one game and that's Mario Party 3. I deleted it but it's been reverted. The Future secton also has no back up to it, has there been any hint at all for Daisy to be in Mario & Sonic, or SSBB? If there haven't been any hints at all then I don't see how they belong there but it was also reverted.

Sounds like Fixitup is being an unfair jerk, as he always is to this article. 11:27, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Hey, quit it. Fixitup did a wonderful job with this article, just didn't neutralize it. Maybe we should create a template like on Wikipedia about "This article needs neutrality or something". 13:44, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
 * OK, I'll agree I overreacted to the above. A NPOV-fix template is a good idea. However, there's no denying Fixitup is fasincated with Daisy, even obsessed. 16:48, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

WHAT?! I already explained why I said she was often remarked as beautiful. Also, Mario & Sonic at the Olympics is going to have over 20 characters and wouldn't it make sense that if Daisy was in? Why wouldn't it? Also a lot of people have a chance to get into Brawl they don't need hints as long as they are not limited due to something Sakurai has said! Besides some hints are that there was previously a Wario costume and trophy and now he's playable, Daisy had a costume and trophy so well? BTW calling me a jerk was unnecessary I never did any name calling Wayoshi! I may be obsessed about Daisy but I don't make up crap! I've been to various Japanese Mario game websites where I've seen quite a few translations showing Daisy as the beautiful tom-boy and Peach as the smart princess. You know, I think you're just upset because you were not actually improving you were trying to make it your way. You should have came to me about this first instead of acting like calling me out would have everyone jump me! Maybe if you would talk to ME about this on my talk page I could've discussed this with you politely but nooo. Fixitup


 * Is better edit technichal info or fan opinion info?
 * Although it seems obvious, it's still not confirmed, so it shouldn't go in until it's confirmed. No assumptions. And I said I overreacted to the jerk issue, and no I wasn't trying to improve it first "in my way". 12:14, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

CC I have no clue what you're trying to ask. Fixitup

Whether she's beautiful or not should be determined by how other characters in game react to her... such as the fake Millinium Star. There you go. Problem solved. She's been considered a tomboy forever: Mario Tennis, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and as seen in her actions in Mario Party 3 (punching Bowser out) and her pure energy in her other games. How did this become a huge issue? Oh, right. We also have an indication that she will be in M&S@OG (the flags), but I really don't know how we can be certain she'll be in Brawl yet. I probably just said a lot of stuff that has already been said.

Hey, I agree with Fixup here. In the Mario Kart: Double Dash!! game manual it say that "Daisy is so cute she has become something of an Idol"...I think that counts as beautiful. Also, while I doubt that she will be in Brawl (unfortunatly in my opion) I think there is a good chance that she will appear in the Next Smash Bros. game. Not that it matters...just a thought. User:Imperialscouts

Has Daisy really been confirmed for...
Has Daisy been confirmed for Mario kart wii and Mario and Sonic Olympic Games??? Javier12345
 * There is reason to believe she will be in Olympic games because a flag of hers is seen there. However, there is no support yet for being in Mario Kart Wii.  The only support we have is that she was in Double Dash.  However, Donkey Kong Junior will tell you that it doesn't mean a thing to be in an earlier game! :)  21:19, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Sorry stumpers but I have to laugh at your expense. Donkey Kong Junior is the current DK. Check out the page on Wikipedia. The old DK got, well, old. It's the little hair dohickey you can tell them apart by. User:Imperialscouts

Notable Screenshots
If we really need this section (I didn't see something like that on other pages), I'd say we keep to notable screenshots. That means not screenshots where Daisy is some small figure, like the screenshots of the Mario Party mini-games. - 15:50, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Maybe we could change it to something else. Those screenshots are good, but they aren't notable. Keep the gallery, but name it something else, not Notable.

Brawl
Actually, even though I hate to admit it, Daisy has a fair chance of NOT being in Brawl. - Luv, Peachluver
 * What the...? It's up again? Ok, Mr. who-adds-this-all-the-time, once for all, when there's no information about something for Brawl, do NOT add a note. For more information, look at the guidelines set up at the Super Smash Bros. Pipe Project. I would also like to remind you that speculation has no place in an encyclopedia. - 12:07, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Although it's painfully obvious many characters have a fair chance of getting in brawl (including Daisy :P) Cobold's right. If Sakurai didn't mention nothing than we shouldn't. fixitup
 * I don't know who keeps adding it, but everytime someone does, I think that it is allowed, and I expand the SSBB information. Sorry :(

Played Mario Tennis GBC?, remember she was there?


Until they fix it, this will be an uncomplete article.

If someone has the game and already beated Mario and Peach or just Mario then go to Mario World to verify and tell here she is there.


 * I don't have the game, so of course I can't play it!

That's not my problem you are not in the list.

Just make some sense, do you really think I actually started making fake screenshots my self just for, as you said? I know she's there because I have it and then, how can you say that Daisy is not in the game if you have not even asked or played or then, is Daisy in Mario is Missing? she is there too but I could just like you say those screenshots are fake, but in fact they are all real. Is it yet THAT HARD?

Three things to tell ya:
 * 1) Don't try to erase another user's opinions
 * 2) Please, sign your comments by now.
 * 3) Someone is against to your proofs about your screenshots?

And who else would s/he be? Pokemon DP and this section as I said is mainly for those who have the game.

OK I understood ya, i don't have the game either, but if you have, and you saw that Daisy appears in that game, your info is acceptable, you can write that. Now, I want to know, where did you find that pics, eh?
 * Er, ripped from a ROM, maybe?

then you cant help here to make the article a complete one. or if you belive, can you?
 * OK, no need to flame and argue about this! If you felt this needed to be put on the article, why didn't you do it yourself? Just put the dang Images on the page.

Alright, then I shall put some previous deleted Daisy's quotes when in the game Nina/Alex and Kate/Harry arrives Mario World in the game.

Done!
 * You have REALLY got to start signing your comments on these talk pages. Oh, and good job on the article.

Thanks

Main Quote
I think the Main Quote should be something to actually describe her or her character, not just a random exclamation. - 15:23, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Fine I'll change it to something that shows off her personality a little more. Not like I chose the current quote anyway. Fixitup
 * If you've checked the history, the current main quote was some "Oohh" and "Aaah" when I posted this. - 17:17, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Understood. I know where you were coming from. :P Fixitup 17:29, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
 * that quote you found it fixitup is at Mario Tennis website. she doesn't tell this in the game exactly.

Last two MSC Bios sections
Fixitup, just so you know, there is also a US and a European Super Mario Strikers website. Each actually has different character bios. Check both sites, and you'll notice both of the bios is completely different. So, which should we choose? The info that was in the game itself, or both bios'? It is the same case with this. The official site and the game can be interpreted as two different things.

I think we should go with the Info that was in the game itself. User:Imperialscouts
 * Yeah, so, remove the last two sections on the MSC Bios?

What Art Goes With What Game
As you can see here, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://go-gurt.nintendo.com/content/downloads/gogurt_wall01_800x600.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dkvine.com/index.php%3Fn%3D00394&h=600&w=800&sz=194&hl=en&start=53&um=1&tbnid=TLQEytKW91pssM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmario%2Bpart%2Bds%2B%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN , this artwork of Daisy is used for MPDS. Seeing as this is the first game it is used for on its own as newer artwork, and there is no evident MPDS artwork for her, this is what I'm going to refer to as her artwork per that game? Fixitup