User talk:Walkazo/Archive 11

Status: School's out for summer, but I've still got lots of work to do. Nevertheless, if you have any questions about the wiki, ask away, and I'll get back to you ASAP.

Hey Walkazo, it's me Coincollector. As I'm seeing you changing the nav Templates regarding to the new proposal you made for them, Do you remember our talk in the forums about this template that has this particular header? Is it still possible to have this header for the gallery template?


 * What was the proposal about, exactly? Because I noticed that you changed the color of the template to a greenish color, but that doesn't really suit anything in the game. The previous colors of yellow and purple matched Wario's clothes. But my question is, under what circumstances was the template made green?


 * The proposal was about approving an overhaul to the Navigation Template policy, which involves changing all the colours of all the game/series-based templates to fit this chart. It was greenish-yellow because the Wario Land games are part of the yellow Wario series, yet are related to the olive green Super Mario Land series. - Walkazo 19:05, 5 April 2012 (EDT)


 * I understand now. Thank you for the reply! So the other games in the Wario Land Series will get a template change too?


 * Yep. I've been updating the templates slowly yet steadily since the proposal passed, and with no school for the next few days, I'm planning to get the rest of them done. As I go through all the templates, I'm making notes of ones that'll need to be merged or fixed - or things that'll need to be written into the policy which I hadn't anticipated when I first wrote it. Fortunately, I quite like doing maintenance stuff like this by myself, so it'll be a fun couple days. - Walkazo 19:23, 5 April 2012 (EDT)


 * Okay! If I can help in any way, just let me know :)


 * Will do! =) - Walkazo 19:27, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

Was the removal of the images in the template a part of your proposal as well? Because I was planning to put images in the template, as seen here.


 * Yeah, sorry, removing the image is part of the plan. I do want to keep the SMB design for the Galleries and whatnot (see here for specifics), but that's it. - Walkazo 17:01, 8 April 2012 (EDT)


 * Fine with Mii!

Should I make this change?
If a page links to something like Atomic Boo and it redirects it to the Big Boo page, could I change that first page to link instead to Atomic Boo? BigDiesel2m 00:19, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
 * There is no "Atomic Boo" section so that wouldn't work; the specific game section can be linked to, but seeing as it's all the same thing, just with different names, there's not usually a huge need for that. - Walkazo 10:36, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I see my foolish formatting folly. If I instead had it link to Atomic Boo, it would be correct. Alternatively, we could adjust the redirect page itself, though I personally like it better when a page links straight to the appropriate section rather than through a redirect. BigDiesel2m 22:59, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
 * It's always better to avoid resorting to redirects: ideally, they're a tool for searching, not linking. - Walkazo 19:13, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
 * I love that opinion. I'm off to go make a few changes. I think my plan is to just empty out the "What Links Here" pages for the redirect pages. Sounds like fun. BigDiesel2m 23:50, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

Re:Userspace
That was for speedy placing, but… :/ (no, I'm not complaining that) But I can't edit the redirect, it's kinda protected :/. --  MarioSmasher  02:00, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

By the way
Could you please check this please? I need to add some info on the template, but it's protected. --  MarioSmasher  10:36, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Done. -- 11:50, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
 * :D -- 11:51, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Hello stranger
It's been a year since I last talked to you...literally. :O How have you been? 00:21, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Hectic as well. It turns out that a good friend I made last year ended up turning me into a person I didn't like. :S So I eventually made my way back to my old self and made an awesome new friend! Even though he and I are kind of struggling with each other right now. ^^; buuuut on the bright side I've gone 3 weeks without cutting now! :D 20:47, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Yeah. He's kinda been getting into some mischief lately. :/ But I think he's just going through a rebellion phase, since he's been raised to be a bigger goody two shoes than me. It'll take some time and what not, but he did reassure me that everything between us would be ok in the end. So all I can do is wait! 21:34, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
 * I'm thinking that once he gets back up on his feet, being friends with him again should be a bit easier. :) But like I said, all I can do is wait, and eventually, me miraculously having patients will pay off :D 21:45, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Yeah, he assured me a couple times that everything will be ok in the end. And we're getting along pretty well right now which is good...even though starting Monday I'm not gonna talk to him much if at all for about a week...CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! xD 23:09, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

I'm on two days in a row...OH MY GOD! 20:48, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
 * haha for me it's kinda weird. He says he doesn't wanna be friends right now, then turns around and invites me to stay the night at his house. XD 20:44, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
 * I think I've been around him too much though. That probably has something to do with it. I mean, I hadn't been bugging him a lot when he asked me. 20:56, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
 * The deal is I *can* go cold turkey, I'd just rather not. :P But I know things will be ok in the end so yeah. xD 21:30, 14 April 2012 (EDT)
 * So at that sleepover I talked to him. He reassured me again that everything will be ok in the end. It'll just take time. 15:38, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Thanks
I just wanted to say thank you for that info you gave me about images. Thanks. The legend of zelda rocks 8:24, 12 Aprill 2012 (EDT)

MarioMan51
I given this guy his second warning for making too much Userspace edits quite awhile ago and he still continued to make loads of Userspace edits. Can you please sort this out because he has been warned twice and he ignored both of them,--New Super Yoshi 14:23, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
 * He's made a couple mainspace edits in the past couple days, so I can't issue him another warning in good conscience at this time (I've seen people get away with far worse). However, I did notice he has too many PIs and sent him a message about that. - Walkazo 15:08, 19 April 2012 (EDT)

Re: Personal Images
Sorry. I didin't knew that. Thanks for the tip. But i don't know how to delete pics. But you can delete the Firefox, Chrome and both Internet Explorer images. That are four. When you deleted the pics, i'll erase the boxes.

Thanks for deleting it. I deleted the boxes. And sorry that i didin't knew that, if i did, i would erase them earlier. Thanks alot.

Question
If i upload a picture and i put it on my userpage and then on a article, is it then a personal image?
 * It's only a PI if it's only on your userspace; if it's on the mainspace too, then it's a regular image. Just remember that images should only be placed on articles because they're legitimately worth having up there, not as a way to sidestep the 4-PI max, which could land you in hot water. - Walkazo 22:16, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I made a gallery in link page and putted one of my pics on the gallery. It's not that i wanted minus 1 personal image, i wanted to edit articles. What i mean is i didin't edited much articles earlier so that's why.
 * No worries, I understood what you meant: I just make it a practice to fire off any sort of rules or whatever that pertain directly to the subject is at hand (for future reference and whatnot). - Walkazo 22:18, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

Uh
I think you should have warmed Meeper about sockpuppeting. He is a noob newcomer. He doesn't know even what is a userbox.

Sorry
Uh, he was warned. i did not knew he was fudy or something i know now. sorry

MushroomMan3?
When will my username be approved? ---Yellow Toad NSMBW.PNG 100px MushroomMan3  14:20, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Whenever we have time. Be patient. - Walkazo 18:59, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Re: Spaces
My intention was to clean out Special:WhatLinksHere/Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand_Year_Door. Sorry, I didn't even realize the spaces were being added. -- 15:07, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Oh, it's alright. I forgot about that too. I'll go back and fix the spacing when I have a moment. -- 15:26, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Redirect
Are "Strollin Stu", "Strollin Stus", and "Strolling Stu" acceptable redirects for Strollin' Stu?
 * "Strollin Stu" and "Strolling Stu" are fine, but not the pluralization. - Walkazo 20:54, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

My archives
Hello again! I just need to sort something out. I've noticed the text at the top of this page gives various tips. At the time of writing this, it reads "Ideally, to archive their talk page, users should move the current page to a new archive subpage, rather than simply cutting and pasting the text." It changes every now and then, eh? It's all good advice, and I try to follow it where possible. A month or so ago, it read something like "User's should only archive talk pages when they get too long. Frequent archiving is unnecessary and should be avoided." I admit that it applied to me, since I was archiving quite often. From that point onward, I archived much less frequently. But this new tip regarding new archive subpages, I regret to say that I may find hard to follow. You see, I wish two organise my archives by year, in order to find comments more easily. My first two archives are for 2011 and 2012 (one and two), and I cut and paste my talk content into the corresponding year whenever it get's too long. Therefore, I am asking if an exception can be made for me here. I promise to not archive talk content more often than every two months, I just don't wish to make another archive subpage until 2013. When you have time, could you please help me out of this sticky situation - thanks in advance!


 * Sorry, if we make an exception for you, we'd have to make them for everyone else who asks, and then the whole regulatory process simply breaks down... Cutting-and-pasting like that really messes up the histories of the pages and makes it hard to dig through them if we need to find a certain comment or edit. Plus, the whole point of archives is to avoid super-long pages, which are a pain to load and difficult to navigate, so an entire year's worth of chatter would sorta defeat that purpose. Just archive every few months, so that each year has three or four archives (depending on how fast you rack up talk sections), rather than a single subpage. - Walkazo 21:07, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Hey, that's fine! I think I will divide it by four months for each archive, three to a year. I thank you for your reply, and the constant advice and help you give me :)

Could you delete my proposal?
My proposal is somewhat useless, and it's too late for me to delete it myself, so could you please delete it? Thank you.
 * Frankly, having your proposal deleted this late in the game just looks like you're trying to avoid it failing on you, which isn't a valid cancellation reason. Proposals are more useful when they pass or fail, since a definite decision is made and can be referred back to. Deletions should be requested when the proposer has come up with a better order to replace the original proposal (it failing would force the proposer to wait a month to tackle the issue in the meantime, and it passing would result in a less-than-optimal setup having to be used for a month - in both cases, it would be better to replace the proposal and get the best setup in only a week). Unless you want to replace the proposal with a new idea, just let it run its course. - Walkazo 18:52, 4 May 2012 (EDT)

Codec Conversation Characters
Sorry to bother, but I'd like your advice on something. A little bit back, I made a proposal that resulted in Krystal, Panther Caroso, Leon Powalski, Colonel Roy Campbell, Mei Ling, and Otacon into one article. I've tried creating a rough draft here, but it needs some work. My biggest concern is the quotes section: Is it too cumbersome for the article, or should it stay? If you have the time, could you please look at it and give some advice to improve it? Thanks, GreenDisaster 19:11, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Thanks. Also, there is a page for the Lylat Cruise conversations at Lylat Cruise/Conversations, though the Melee conv. don't have an article yet. Perhaps they could be merged into an article called "List of Star Fox conversations" or something similar? GreenDisaster 22:34, 4 May 2012 (EDT)

fixed

 * Still too big. - Walkazo 22:18, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Just to let you know...
It wasn't me who was Ladybug! That was my friend and she's only 7! Yes, I did create it for her on her computer, but I didn't mean any harm! (P.S. can you please give a warning before you block? Also, if you think I'm also Smb2 & Smb3, They popped up while I was online!) (P.S.S. I don't want to insult you, I just wanted to let you know about this.)

It&#39;s a-me, Mario! (Nah, it&#39;s me smb1.) 19:19, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Why?
you deleted my pipeproject?! why? now i'm gonna have to tell people to get rid of those userboxes!!
 * The admins decided we wanted to clean up the archive clutter pertaining to the now-defunct PipeProject system. Sorry about that - it's nothing personal, just housecleaning. - Walkazo 22:18, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Wanna be FRIENDS?
Walkazo! I was thinking, since you have no friends, can you be my friend? I made my own userbox!

-- 19:15, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Thanks, but I don't accept friend requests. I prefer to be friends with everyone, no lists involved. - Walkazo 22:18, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Black Boo's talk page
I was wondering if you can take a look on the Black Boo's talk page. I don't know how else it can get noticed. Zakor1138 23:16, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Name change
Is it ok if I can have that name change to Lily as I got told to message you Lily 03:05, 23 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Done. - Walkazo 14:32, 23 May 2012 (EDT)

Thank you very much http://i39.tinypic.com/or5tvp.png 17:43, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Chat?
Do you ever come on the chat? And if u do, can you come? -- 14:28, 23 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Nope: no time, no interest. - Walkazo 14:32, 23 May 2012 (EDT)

sig
fixed, please excuse it today, tomorrow it'll look better(i reuploaded something)

Userpage deletion
Can you please delete my userpage? I don't want it here anymore now. -- 12:31, 28 May 2012 (EDT)
 * Done. But you could've just labelled it for deletion. - Walkazo 12:32, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

Hello. I'm YoshiDaisyfan9's brother. Could you not block me? I created my account on my brother's account, though. Shadowboy103
 * Yes, Walkazo, Shadowboy103 is my brother. It's not a sockpuppet. I'm never making those again.
 * Okey-dokey. Thanks for letting me know right away before any misunderstandings could happen. - Walkazo 14:27, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

Naming policy
Sorry if this sounds rude, but has the change to the naming policy been discussed? I mean, changing it from the first official international English name to the most commonly used English name seems a bit drastic. Also, isn't it subjective as to which name is used? If this has been discussed with the other admins, then disregard this comment, but shouldn't the change have been proposed first in the proposals page or something? GreenDisaster 16:42, 28 May 2012 (EDT)


 * Porplemontage decided to switch it back from the First English Name policy to the old NA-only style. There was no discussion. He said it was to increase traffic, since most Google/whatever searchers are American, and for the PAL-named games, we're not at the top of the results pages, so everyone goes to Wikipedia instead: we can't afford that. Plus, most of the wiki users are American, and if the name's going to seem wrong for a group of readers no matter what, might as well make it so that the least amount of people are inconvenienced. It also brings uniformity to the wiki, whereas a smattering of games being named according to their PAL release would seem inconsistent to anyone unfamiliar with the release dates and the old policy. - Walkazo 16:55, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

Socktalk Deletion Request
I'm found sockpuppet block account in Recent Changes.
 * User talk:GotoAndDie


 * Done. Thanks for the heads-up. - Walkazo 19:20, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

RE:New categories
Okay!

Okay, could you also take care of the warioware category page, from what you say on my talkpage?

I could use some help please.

Okay, Thank you.

My forum account doesn't appear
Hey Walkazo. I'm Coincollector, Recently I couldn't log in to the Mariowiki Boards because the login page says my "username doesn't exist". Do I have to make another account or it's just a technical issue?

Links
I'm really sorry about that. Before I left for a few months, I used to go through links on talk pages and change/remove them if they were broken. It kind of became a habit for me. Again, sorry. GreenDisaster 16:21, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Uh, this is wierd, but...
Can we be friends? I know, I was annoyed with you, but still! We have to put the past behind us and continiue our lives, and I've gotten over the block thing. So, I hope I didn't make you mad after that last post, so, bye...I geuss?


 * I never say who is or isn't my friend, since I want to be on good terms with everyone. That being said, I'm glad to hear you're no longer upset about the blocking stuff. And as for your last comment here, I didn't even remember it until you mentioned it: I don't like dwelling on the past either. - Walkazo 16:37, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Category
Could Category:Dr. Mario & Germ Buster Images be moved to Dr. Mario Online Rx, as per the North American name policy? GreenDisaster 18:48, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Yep: it should be replaced by Category:Dr. Mario Online Rx Images whenever possible. - Walkazo 18:51, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Well, could you replace it? Considering I'm not an admin and all, so I can't delete categories, plus you've already done it before... GreenDisaster 19:04, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
 * All done (I should be doing homework now, but there were only a couple images, so I figured, what the heck). But you know, you don't have to be an admin to make new categories: it's pretty easy. Just copy the old category, but switch the name (and rewrite the summary if it's crappy). Once the images have been switched to the new category, just labeling the old category for deletion is all that needs to be done: the actual deletion part's the least important step. - Walkazo 19:17, 11 June 2012 (EDT)

Help!
Mr. concrete donkey thought I was a sockpuppet without any proof, and as I type this, I am Toolsotrade and I use a legit reason sockpuppet to give you this message. I want a discussion via email to see if i am eligible to be unbanned from editing. I have made some contributions to the wiki and I need your help. Sincerely, Pleaseforgiveme 20:44, 13 June 2012 (EDT)User Talk:Pleaseforgiveme

Sock Warning
A sockpuppet gave a false warning to PTR here. That probably should be removed, no? GreenDisaster 13:04, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Good call. Since PTR responded, I didn't want to remove the entire section outright, but I did get rid of the bogus template. - Walkazo 13:10, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for removing that warning. PTR (trivialWarlord)
 * No prob - thank GreenDisaster for pointing it out. - Walkazo 13:20, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

Walkazo...
I'm sorry for changing Mecha-Boss Unit's talk page warning and creating his/her welcome page. I apologize.

Did you tell MegeMushroom82 this yet?
He has a trash can too. He didn't get the template. If you still don't look, you'll probably.... (trailed off into a mumble)

P.S. I did a sweep on the Bob-omb page

Ownage** have make many sockpuppet
I'm actually seeing Ownage16, Ownage17 in some pages' history and blocklist. Ownage accounts list is These users have many make sockpuppet and vandalizing any pages. This Ownage's IP and E-mail block please.
 * User talk:Ownage24
 * User talk:Ownage15
 * User talk:Ownage
 * User talk:OwnageSays****You (**** is censored)
 * User talk:Ownage16
 * User talk:Ownage17
 * According to Bop1996, his IP hasn't been the same for every account, so IP banning him is kind of pointless. GreenDisaster 10:49, 19 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Yeah, an IP block wouldn't help, but the vandalism's not extreme enough to warrant one anyway. Generally, we try to avoid resorting to IP blocks since they have the potential to prevent innocent people from joining too. - Walkazo 11:37, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

F.L.U.D.D.
The F.L.U.D.D scan of Mario shows the names of the games without spaces between the words, not backwards.
 * Nope, it's backwards (and doesn't have any spaces, but that part's obvious between the screen cap and the way the Trivia's written, so it doesn't need saying). I was pretty sure the article hadn't been wrong all this time, but just to be sure, I went and verified it with my copy of Sunshine, and you can see the cutscene for yourself in this video. - Walkazo 13:04, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

Sorry 2
i am so sorry its just that i lost my password and i sent a message to my email to reset my password so i followed the instrutions and put the temporary password but it did not work so i created another one im so sorry please forgive me --Zackstar656 20:38, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

hey um i deleted your warning because i thought that we were done talking im sorry i did not know --Zackstar656 13:37, 28 June 2012 (EDT)


 * No worries. Just don't do it again, now that you know. And try to keep your comments in the proper section of my talk page (or make a new section at the bottom): it's confusing if everything's jumbled together. - Walkazo 13:41, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

Ban
Hey Walkazo! I'm sorry about my behavior earlier. I promise to not act like this again. Snifit 1

Referencing Help
Sorry to bother you again. But my article needs referencing help. Would you mind helping me? Thanks.
 * Done. - Walkazo 00:05, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

Kayak254
Should I add anything to this?

In Mario Party 9 the player(s) can engage in a battle minigame by landing on the Battle Minigame space. Once a player has done so, a Hammer Bro. will come and take 3 Mini Stars per person. the reward distribution is: 1st: 6 mini stars 2nd: 4 mini stars 3rd: 2 mini stars 4th: 0 mini stars Also, if a player lands on a Bowser Space the players can be forced into battling for half pf each players Mini Stars.


 * I fixed up some of the details, but I don't know anything about the Mario Party series, so content-wise, I can't really advise you. It seems okay based on the other MP info in that section, however. - Walkazo 12:22, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

I want to what the +(#) and -(#) mean after something is edited.


 * The number of bytes (i.e. characters, including spaces) added or removed to a page by an edit. - Walkazo 22:58, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Snifit Coin Process
Hello Walkazo! You can get Snifit Coins in a few easy steps if you visit this page. Thank You For Your Generousity!! Snifit 1

Friend?
How'd you like to be my friend?
 * I'm friends with everybody. - Walkazo 20:04, 1 July 2012 (EDT)

Delete picture
Can u delete this? I don't need it because theres already a belgium flag image. File:België.jpg -- 16:54, 4 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Done, but for future reference, you can just mark unwanted images for deletion (using ) and they'll be taken of sooner or later (and won't cound towards your PI count in the meantime). - Walkazo 16:58, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

I don't understand that way. Can i just come to you? And could you delete 3 pics? File:Yellow_Baby_Yoshi_Egg.png, File:Blue_Baby_Yoshi_Egg.png and File:Magenta_Baby_Yoshi_Egg.png -- 14:53, 5 July 2012 (EDT)
 * What's there to not understand? Go to the image's page, hit the "edit" tab, paste  in the edit box, hit "save page", the end. It's not hard. - Walkazo 15:00, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

Question

 * Do I have to ask a patroller or Sysop or someone like that about adding something to BJAODN or can I just add it without confirmation?SuperPickle Mushroom-SM3DL.png.  15:03, 5 July 2012 (EDT)
 * You don't need to ask permission. (It says so on BJAODN, near the bottom of the exposition, in the "tips" bit.) - Walkazo 15:07, 5 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Ok, thanks.Mushroom-SM3DL.png. SuperPickle 15:10, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

Picture Delete
Could u delete this picture. I discovered this is my fifth picture. I picked this picture for deletion because there is coming a official solo illustration for the Blue Baby Yoshi while for the green one doesn't. Could you delete this for me ---> File:Blue Baby Yoshi.png (It's the last one)  15:17, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

My Hard Work Gone
Page's that I created are gone!It say's you deleted it!Why!
 * Because they're not allowed: read the rules. "Hard work" is not playing around in userspace anyway: it's actually editing the articles, which you haven't bothered doing in weeks. - Walkazo 19:15, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

This is the mother of the My hard work Gone, can you explain to me what it was that my 11 year old did wrong? And if he can fix it to have the pages back?
 * He's not supposed to create pages just for his own stuff. It is explained on this policy page. This website is first and foremost an encyclopedia, and its users are supposed to focus their efforts on improving our articles. While it is okay to chat with other users and make "userpages" for one's own personal fun, there are limits to how much time and space this should take up. - Walkazo 19:45, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

WL4 item images
Hey there Walkazo. I suppose you were why I tagged those Wario Land 4 item images for deletion. I obtained those images through YouTube screenshots last year, and at the time I thought they were perfect for the intended articles. Later on, I have realized that the quality is very poor. For example, this image takes the original size and resolution of the GBA screen, so it is visually alike to what a player would see on their console screen. Now if we compare a similar image with a YouTube screenshot, we can see how the image is affected in quality and image size. In regards to the item images, I wanted to obtain proper sized images, and until I did, I tagged the YouTube screenshots for deletion and removed them from the articles. I thank you for re-adding them, because in retrospect, I realize that those images can stay until they are able to be re-upload. This is just a friendly heads-up for what was going on, so thanks again for your involvement :)

RE:Warning
I'm sorry. Master      R.O.B.     (contribs · edits) 21:18, 17 July 2012 (EDT
 * I just thought that moving them would be a good idea since it looks strange to have the archives as subpages of the old usernames' talk pages, and I did not know that admins are in charge of moving the archives. BrawlROB.jpg   Master       R.O.B.     (contribs · edits) 21:22, 17 July 2012 (EDT)