Talk:Dimentio

Incorrect naming
In the guide, it says his name is "Dimentio" not "Dementio." :) UrsulaBoi 19:47, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for pointing that out. Next time you can just move the page yourself, OK?
 * Pssh, as if I know how to do that. :p UrsulaBoi 20:12, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

just click on "Move"

Yes, there's a tab at the top of the page that says "Move". Click on that, then type in the correct name.

Super Dimentio
anyone have a pic of it???

Me

hey if you have a pic, upload it.

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Pronunciation
Is his nmae pronounced Dimen-sho or Dimen-teeo

I don't think that has been revealed. -- Sir Grodus

I always thought it was Dimen-shee-o, like how one would pronounce "dimension".

More Pics!
Could anybody get screenshots of: If you have these or any other Dimentio pics, could you e-mail them to me at "irishladdie727@aol.com"? I think this page could use more pictures. User:Irishladdie727
 * Dimentio at a meeting of Bleck's Minions.
 * Dimentio fighting Mario in "Dimension D".
 * Dimentio stealing the Chaos Heart.
 * Dimentio killing Mr. L.


 * Or they could just add them themselves.--Dreyfus2006 20:39, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

that too, of course

I got some of the pics. If you need any specific SPM screenshots, go on Youtube and pause at the picture you want. Then right click, print the picture, and scan it. User:Irishladdie727]
 * But it comes out really blurry and bad...

I'd like to see a pic of Dimentio brainwashing Mario. TheGreatBlockyBoo 18:42, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

The Youtube pics do end up a little blurry sometimes, but they look ok as thumbs. There are very few official screenshots, and this is the most efficient way I've discovered to get the pics you want. If your pic looks really blurry, just shrink it down until it looks good to you. If it's small, and still blurry, you may have chosen a bad video to get a pic of. User:Irishladdie727

For example, the picture of King Sammer that I added is from YouTube.--Dreyfus2006 18:26, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Dark...Something?
Um... I know it is backed up by facts or something but...  Well, the thing about the Dark whatever (not Prognosticus, the thing about Mario being the Light is what I'm talking about) seems sort of...I don't know what the word is for it. But wouldn't Wario be Mario's dark side? Sure, for light there must be darkness. But the darkness shouldn't be different than the light; take Flipside and Flopside, for example. If darkness could be different, then Dark World could have been Flipside's dark side. And... Well, there was something else, but I forget what. I hope I'm making myself clear, I don't want to sound control-freak or anything... I'm afraid I'm sounding a bit incorrect or something here... Sorry to whoever wrote it, I can definitely tell that they thought it through and are genuinely certain.--Dreyfus2006 20:46, 2 June 2007 (EDT)


 * I think the Paper Mario series isn't related to the main Mario series, i.e., Wario. 12:01, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Except in the case of Bowser's demise, that seems to have leaked through to Luigi's Mansion.

I don't know, I just kind of wanted a clear cut reason for Dimentio to return (he's kind of awesome), and I found one. I wasn't saying he is destined to be Mario's enemy, I'm just saying he could come back. However, I do think that Paper Mario is connected to other Mario games. Sort of, because there isn't much continuity between any of the Mario games. But the star spirits, whackas, the Paper Mario version of Bowser's castle, and Goomboss have all appeared in non-paper games. And Super Paper Mario introduced "the aftergame", which is where Mario characters go after they get a "game over" (death). I have a feeling that we may be seeing this again as well. User:Irishladdie727


 * Do not forget Mowz and the Star Rod. Silent but deadly! SuperLuigi821 You lost everything. Way to go genious.

In the article it says that Dimentio's fate has yet to be revealed. How has his fate not been revealed? The dude exploded and sunk into the ground and then his power left behind got wiped out along with the Chaos Heart by Bleck and Tipi's vows. What more proof do you need? Also, the sentences about him taking away Queen Jaydes power seems random and doesn't make sense. So does the whole Flipside and Flopside comparison. I think Dimentio was a one time villain; just like Cackletta, Grodus, the Shadow Queen, the Shroobs. They all appear in one game and get destroyed. Out of any of the villains that could return; it would be Grodus because his head is still alive. But he hasn't returned and probably will never because their all meant to be one-time villains. Just because Dimentio is the dark one doesn't mean he can't be destroyed. In fact the light prognosticus states that the dark one must be destroyed to save existance. So it obvious that Dimentio has been destroyed. That has been stated in the game and it gave absolutly no indication that Dimentio could be alive. Unless Miyamoto or any of the other designers say that he could still be alive; we have to conclude he's not. I just think the whole "Dark One" section is just speculation. We should change it a bit.-Darknessofheart

You didn't just change it a bit, you deleted it completely and replaced it with something three times as long that just reiterates everything the aricle already says. We have "encounters with Mario and Co." and then "Dimentio's plans", the second one just being the first one from a different point of view. I'll change it back, but remove the part about possible return, because people have been getting so picky about that. Next time, try to incorporate other's work into your own. -Irishladdie727

Trivia
The Trivia section of this article is exploding. The content should be either implemented in the main article or be removed. - 16:01, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

An end to the madness!
I know that SPM just came out and that Dimentio is the cooliest villain ever. But the sheer amount of unnecessary edits on this page is astounding. I'm guilty myself, but so are many others. The Trivia section is a good example. While there may be a lot to say about the demented jester, there have been so many random observations that the trivia section got to be longer than most articles. Discuss major edits please, and make sure that people actually agree with them first. This is a community, and if we want to make an awesome article, we have to work together and give feedback, instead of everyone putting two cents in just to feel like they did something.


 * This is sorta irrelevent to the discussion, but I just have been dying to say that Mimi could kick Dimentio's bottom ten million times. Carry on. (though personally, I'd say that his actions should be logged chapter by chapter; there was very little reference to his appearance in the Bitlands last time I checked)--Dreyfus2006 22:40, 10 June 2007 (EDT)


 * ...Ok we do have to discuss about merges but...about Trivia and stuff? Too far... Click here to see the universe. SuperLuigi821 Oh you let the hat out of the bag, Big Top!

What we need to do is to remove un-notable trivia. I'll open up a voting booth. At this time, please don't add anymore trivia. Ends on the 6/17/07. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Keep

 * 1) I think this is hardly notable, but is good enough to stay. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Remove

 * 1) Looks to me like a simple description of him, which we could put into some kind of a Physical Appearance section rather than randomly throwing it into Trivia.

===Dimentio's face is a Comedy Mask. The Comedy Mask is a classical theatrical mask used in plays. The Comedy Mask and its counterpart, the Tragedy Mask, are used as symbols of theater, and are often worn by jesters and magicians at the circus and other celebrations.===

Keep

 * 1) I propose we keep it, but it would make more sense to merge this trivia with the one above. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) I agree with knife, though I think it should be shortened down a bit... Make it more like, "Dimentio's design is based off of jesters and theater actors" or something.--Dreyfus2006 14:18, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 3) I think we should keep this and keep it unchanged; it strikes me as interesting.

Remove
===Dimentio's character design resembles a stylized version of the Jesters from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. He also closely resembles Harley Quin, another jester character from the game Wario's Woods, and Super Dimentio's spinning cape imitates that of Harley.===

Keep

 * 1) ...to some extent, anyway. The Jester part is notable; the latter part is just...  I dunno.--Dreyfus2006 14:19, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) I say we keep it all; it's interesting to note and both characters do look quite a bit like Dimentio.

Remove

 * 1) I thought we already covered jesters above. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

===It is possible that his "acquaintance" he mentions twice in Chapter 5 could have been King Croacus, for Croacus used Floro Sprouts to control the Cragnons, and Dimentio happened to get two of them.===

Remove

 * 1) Too ambiguous to be considered trivia. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) Also completely obvious. Its not a "fun fact" if people can figure it out for themselves.
 * 3) Perhaps we could state this in-article, but it doesn't make much sense as a Trivia entry.

===Mysteriously, Tippi seems to have known Dimentio before the events of Super Paper Mario. She recognizes him immediately on their first encounter in the game, during the dialog shortly before Mario battles Fracktail.===

Keep

 * 1) I think this is interesting to be mentioned. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) Agreed, and the game never continues to explain why, leading to an unsolved mystery to confuse us all. ^_^--Dreyfus2006 14:21, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 3) Very, VERY interesting. I think this should be kept; it's the ideal Trivia entry.

Remove
===It is implied that Dimentio has his own brand of perfume, called "Demented, by Dimentio". He offers Mario a signed bottle of it in Chapter 8-4, listing it among other bribes to persuade him to help fight Count Bleck.===

Keep

 * 1) Also think this is barely notable, but notable enough to stay. 13:10, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 2) Same here, considering an "Implied" article is made for it.--Dreyfus2006 14:21, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * 3) This one feels more akin to trivia other character pages have. I say keep it.
 * 4) Perhaps we could merge this with something in-article, but it's a good Trivia entry now.

This article is a little over the top
This article seems to be a shrine for praising Dimentio as a villain. Almost every section includes at least one mention at how evil, violent, cruel, merciless, powerful, and cunning he is. Dimentio is an awesome character and villain, but this article sounds badly written. It even goes as far as saying he's a merciless monster. That's speculation; Ex; someone might think he's merciless for attempting to wipe out all worlds, but some might consider him merciful for not killing Bleck and Tipi right away and instead traps them in Dimension D. It's all opinion in that sense and that doesn't belong here. Also, and I mean no offense, but this article doesn't even hide the fact that people are praising him. This article sounds like a bunch of obsessed fans that worship this guy wrote it. You can say that Dimentio is more evil than some of the other villains, but lets just tone it down a little. There are way too many mentions at how evil Dimentio is and a lot are just speculation or opinions.

Wow, that paragraph had everything except a signature. Anyway, I think you're right. The article needs to be neutralized. 22:32, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

You also forgot in the article that he used Dimension D to power up a tough guy that also named himself O Cabbage.(Super F22 Pilot 23:59, 29 November 2007 (EST))

On the act before Luigi Battles Dimentio what if you picked help Dimentio?(Super F22 Pilot 05:07, 20 December 2007 (EST))

Trivia Advice
All right, the trivia section has finally been shortened to only include the essential information; there was a lot of garbage in that section. I think the section is perfect now, but some might want to add more. If someone wants to add something, please just discuss it on this page. Stuff like Dimentio having a perfume brand, which I think Dimentio was just lying about, is not important enough to be included as you can play through the whole game without even going through that scene unless you refuse his offer three times. Make sure that the information hasn't been stated in the article previously and isn't too long or long at all with unnecessary wording. Like I said before, I think the section is fine the way it is now, but you never know. Thanks. -Darknessofheart