MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split Star Coin and (Discuss) Deadline: December 28, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Reorganize List of Mario references in music (Discuss) Deadline: January 2, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Dr. Mario (character) to just plain (Discuss) Deadline: January 4, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
'None at the moment.

Removals
None at the moment.

Have "Title reference" in the infobox for Mario Party minigames
As you may know, most minigames from the Mario Party series have puns, wordplays or references for their titles, and these are mentioned right on the article. However, the sentence "The name is a pun on..." or similar things are very repetitive, and more like trivia. But instead of asking it to be moved to trivia sections, I think it would be better to have a "Title reference" area in the minigame infobox, like The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! episode infobox does. Yes, if we do this we cannot write the meaning of the original term, but the Super Mario Wiki is not a place for learning non-Mario or video game-related terms, and it can be easily found on the internet (if it has a Wikipedia article, we can still link it to there).

Proposer: Deadline: December 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) My Proposal.
 * 2) Sounds good.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per proposal
 * 5) I like it. Per proposal.
 * 6) I don't know if it should be exactly "Name reference". Maybe it should be "Title reference", but hey that's just me. I like this idea, per proposal.
 * 7) Per proposal.
 * 8) For the Wario minigames too. They have tons of puns in the titles.
 * 9) Per above, can we amend this to inculde the Wario minigames? In any case, the less "explaining the joke" we do, the better.

Oppose

 * 1) - Probably too late to make much difference now, but name explanations and other wordy things seem better placed within the articles themselves, rather than cluttering up the infoboxes. Having it in the articles' body texts rather than one-size-fits-all infoboxes also allows for more flexibility: some names are so obvious, they shouldn't need to be explained at all, while others might be obscure or complex and require far more attention than most.

Comments
@Zero777, I replaced "name" with "title". I always used "name", but it really seems that "title" is more correct. 08:05, 23 December 2013 (EST)

Walkazo brings up a pretty good point in his oppose, what do you suppose we could do with the more obvious references if/when this passes? Lord Grammaticus (talk
 * Let the reader figure it out and leave the parameter blank so it doesn't show up?
 * Well, you could also detail it in the text, one does not obstruct the other...
 * Which is why I asked the way I did; detailing the origin of a relatively common pun isn't obstructive so much as it is frivulous.
 * I'm aware that begs the question of what makes a pun obvious, but I don't think that discussion would be overly troublesome. Lord Grammaticus (talk)
 * I think it should be, if the pun is not obvious, like this, in the text: "This pun comes from the expression Expression here, which means (very short explanation here). And add on the infobox "From the expression (expression here)". We could even omit the explanation.
 * Stuff like "Plunder ground", "Urn it", "Grow Up" is self explanatory, but others including "Paint Misbehavin'", "Snow Ride", and "Jump the Gun" may need some explanation.


 * * her oppose. Also, the excess of obvious name explanations is bad enough, we'd hardly need it in the infoboxes and the body text, and I fear that having some explanations in one or the other and some boxes left blank without body text info will all just seem woefully inconsistent. As for what should or shouldn't be explained, that can always be decided in the talk pages if there's any disagreement. -
 * Isn't there a way to have the cell in the infobox not appear if the parameter is left blank?
 * Yeah, with stuff, like here, afaik. But even so, that wouldn't hide the fact that some infoboxes would have explanations while others wouldn't. Plus, optional lines screw up alternating-bg-colour schemes and the more they can be avoided, the better. -
 * Aye, my mistake, sorry about that. Regarding consistency: do we give the expressions in every infobox at least, and add more details in the body for the less obvious ones, or did you have.something entirely different in mind?

Create disambiguation pages for New Super Mario/Luigi (Bros.) U levels
Looking at, for example Sparkling Waters, we can see that for example two "Sparkling Waters-1" exist: Waterspout Beach, and Huckit Beach Resort. I propose to make a disambiguation page showing both levels in both games.

Proposer: Deadline: 2 Jan. 2014 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.

Comments
I don't see the point of this.

Specicifally, we can make disambiguations, certainly, though you didn't have to go right to the TPP, I think; a discussion on the talk page would've been a great starting point, and with enough support (I see no reason not to do this really), you can just go right ahead and do it. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2013 (EST)

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.