Talk:Dr. Mario World

Early Release
I'm not autoconfirmed at the moment, so I can't edit the page, but as seen here and here. There's levels and assistants to be added as well. Iceblock715 (talk) 14:52, July 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * Updated the release before I even saw this talk page :P 16:31, July 9, 2019 (EDT)

Dr characters
Considering that this game has a bunch of doctor characters not strictly limited to only Mario or Nurse Peach any more, I feel like the ones introduced in this game shouldn't warrant articles separate from one other, as it will cause a huge mess of navigation. 22:01, July 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * I don't really think that each character requires two separate pages depending on whether they're wearing a doctor costume or not. They still have the same lore and they aren't different characters in the same vain that Baby Mario is different from Mario, who is different from Paper Mario. I think the only thing that warrants Dr. Mario having his own page is the major differences between him and Mario in Smash.
 * I've wrote a proposal concerning this shortly after. You can vote in it if you want. 15:50, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * I'm wondering if Dr. Luigi should be kept as a separate article because he appeared in other games, but that's the only reason for it. Dr. Mario should definitely stay separate. 15:57, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * I have a feeling that's not a strong enough reason to keep him separate because in the future, these doctors may also appear in future games. Not even Nurse Toadstool has her own article and she has more than one appearance. 16:34, July 10, 2019 (EDT)

Unused assistants
This really goes for all the unused assistants' articles: I think their pictures in the infoboxes shouldn't be their artwork from this game just yet, because they haven't been implemented in the game yet. 22:22, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

King Bob-omb Level 2
Can't edit the protected page myself, but I just unlocked this:

Stage Mode: "Grants 10% chance viruses (2) will be eliminated on stage start."

Versus Mode: "If you send viruses to your opponent, grants 8% chance of sending an extra row."


 * got it thanks 18:25, July 25, 2019 (EDT)

All unreleased doctors should get a mention in their articles
Data relating to those characters can be found in the game, and especially with their assets done and all, coinciding with other mined aspects of the game such as the world maps designating a particular theme and their unique abilities have been mined. I fail to see that just because it wasn't officially released doesn't mean it's data not at least worth mentioning. I do agree that we should rewrite loaded language such as "intending to be playable at some point" and I got a bit cocky myself when writing the babies' sections on terms of playable plausbility (and I still subjectively stand by my speculation) but there's no good reason to remove valid information just because Nintendo didn't give the greenlight and presentation on their reveal despite that their data exists and that's something MarioWiki should do. The fact that Mario Tennis Aces was used as an analogy (though I'm not versed with how its mined data was presented but iirc it didn't have completed assets like Dr. Mario World did) means that we shouldn't have deleted datamined character info from Mario Tennis Aces from the first place and rather rewrote information to be less speculative. 19:49, August 15, 2019 (EDT)
 * I agree that content retrieved from the game's files should be covered when we cover pre-release and unused content. What comes to mind specifically are the unused CSS icons for Petey Piranha and Hammer Bro from Mario Kart Wii. These were extracted from the game files, not unlike the Doctor assets from this game, and so when we cover those, we should cover these. Not to mention we've been using internal game files for confirmation of many enemy names and even planet names from the Galaxy games, so this is all valid. MarioComix (talk) 21:40, August 15, 2019 (EDT)

There is new informations about the "Pre-release and unused content".
Some informations about this section are obsoletes. Some other new informations are found in the in-game data. This section need to be updated. Can I be autorise to change these informations. I also have to change Birdo's Biography due to her/it appearance in Super Mario Strikers and Mario Strikers Charged as a playable character that aren't considerate by the page relate to Birdo. The "list of appearance by date" need to be updated too.
 * To be able to edit this page, you'll need to be autoconfirmed, which means you need to be a user for at least a week, which you are, and have made ten edits, so you'll need another eight. Though if you have some information, you could bring it up here with a source and we can take a look at it and see if it can be added, as well as saying which, if any, of the information is incorrect. BBQ Turtle (talk) 09:37, March 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * I would like to rectify what I said. Informations found in-game data deconfirmed certains affirmation here. Apparently, since a august updates, there is no more information about Kamek and King Kaliente texts. Also, for the Fuzzy-Like creatures and the Boo Medals, it look like they doesn't appear anymore. At least we can refer to them like we do, but we need to specify these informations aren't sourced anymore. For myself, it will be difficult to prove they aren't in the game anymore, cause how to prove something doesn't exist? But, I refer myself to the observation of 2 dataminers. Do you want to talk with them to confirmed what I said?


 * Finally, I saved Boo Medals and we can add all Assistants unused here. I got all the pictures, so I can add them to their respective section. Ouimet (talk) ,1:46 April 11, 2020 (HNP)
 * If you've got some images that you can upload (or have uploaded the already), then those should be fine to add. If you've got a source for those things no longer being included in the game, like if there's somewhere where those two dataminers have publicly explained that fact, then we can amend the section to reflect it, it doesn't have to be your observation specifically if you can find a good source for it elsewhere. BBQ Turtle (talk) 02:39, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
 * Yes I got the Boo Medals and Assistants images. For the 2 dataminers, only one still datamine this game, let's call him "Dragon Face", cause he want us call him by a emoji only available in discord. These informations that aren't on the Dr. Mario World server anymore come from the actual "Dragon Face" since I ask him in private on discord. He confirm me in private than Super Mario Galaxy Medals and Golden Ticket are still in the usual Dr. Mario World server. He also confirm me than Boo Clinic Event Medals aren't, at least, on the same server anymore. So we have nothing to change about Super Mario Galaxy Medals and Golden Ticket, but he just can confirm he can't see Boo Clinic Event anymore. Also, because it's very difficult for dataminer to check all servers from Dr. Mario World developpers, cause they simply doesn't know where to check, we only know for the usual server. Even if we ask "Dragon Face" to confirm that, that doesn't mean another dataminer will found another time these informations again. So to me, that's not interesting to source we can't find Boo Clinic Event since that deconfirm nothing even if we refer to a official post. My propose is this Dr. Mario World page refer to these 2 dataminers plus or less directly and both of them can't confirm these source anymore. On one side, this page refer to MarioJoe11's twitter posts, the other dataminer that is not a dataminer for Dr. Mario World anymore. On his posts, he confirm the existence of Magikoopa and King Kaliente texts, Fuzzy-like Creature and others things, but since he doesn't have access anymore he can't confirm they are still there. On the other side, you got "Dragon Face" that we refer indirectly by mentioning the standalone Dr. Mario World Wiki and this site is mostly based on "Dragon Face" datamining. I ask to "Dragon Face" if he can find all the unused contents we mention that are in the game, just to confirm or falsify what we said in this Dr. Mario World page, but he can't see informations about Magikoopa and King Kaliente texts and Fuzzy-like creature. Precisely, "Dragon Face" never notice about Magikoopa and King Kaliente texts and Fuzzy-like creature before, like MarioJoe11 does. So all the informations we got can't confirm the existence of these informations. What we can still confirm is Super Mario Galaxy Medals and Golden Ticket are still in the server. For the rest, all is unknown.


 * I can understand there is a lot of information to takes in consideration. If there is one or more things you don't understand, cause I don't express myself correctly (I'm a French Canadian), just tell me.


 * To resume my message, I can add these new Assitants's images and I would like to adjust what we say about unused contents since some of these affirmation aren't available anymore. I will still mention it, but now as unfindable contents without changing any sources. The informations I will like to change is precisely about Magikoopa and King Kaliente texts, Fuzzy-like creature and Boo Clinic Event Medals. Ouimet (talk) ,14:35 April 11, 2020 (HNP)