User talk:YoshiPickle/Archive 1

Rules
This is my talk page, and commenting on it means you must follow these rules: I enjoy reading your comments and can't wait for you to start posting! Remember, I always enjoy helping anyone in need!
 * No wars between any two people or I shall settle it
 * No rude comments
 * No cussing
 * No swearing
 * NEVER be disrespectful to me
 * Sign with your signature so I know when you commented
 * No spamming
 * Please don't cram too much under one header. If it gets too big and you are not done, I will let you know and add a new header
 * No huge comments that go on and on
 * Don't be disrespectful to Harry Potter or Mr.L
 * Don't add links to pages besides your own or other talk pages unless I grant you permission or ask for them
 * HAVE FUN!

Reminder
You've been going through talk pages and responding to overly large amounts of dead discussions. Please don't respond to inactive or solved discussions on talk pages any more.

Sorry, but I can't find any discussions that AREN'T dead...
 * Then don't comment on talk pages. There's not any point in responding unless it will help improve the issue on the page, and adding to dead discussions doesn't improve anything.

Hey, that's a great idea! I'll only comment on my own page! And since I check it every day, I'll never miss disscussions.
 * Feel free to contribute to live discussions on talk pages if you're helping to improve the article, just don't contribute to dead ones. It's fairly simple.

Okay, thanks. I'm new here and I didn't know that.

Also, don't make too many edits to the same page at one time. Please use the preview button to avoid making a flood of unnecessary edits.-- 12:41, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Okay, I will. If anyone has any other advice, or just wants to talk, this page is always open!

Whoa...
I was playing Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga today and I finally beat Cackletta's Soul. But then I only had 3 minutes to get out of Bowser's Castle... I failed at that, so now all that work was wasted!
 * I'm glad it doesn't show Mario and Luigi if they fail to get out, because the castle blows up and showing the picture of them after it blows up would be inappropriate and disturbing. Bowser would like it, though.;)M&amp;L Beware my fury! 13:44, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Anything
I was looking at a page, and it had practically no links, so I added some. Now, you can get around the website instantly! HEY! I went back to the page (which I spent about ten minutes adding links) and some jerk already deleted them! Will someone tell me who it is? Or turn themself in. Hey, I just finished creating my user page! It took a while, but I finally finished. I'll probably change it often, as my preferences tend to change quickly (and I didn't put in all of my information so I would have something to do later). Yo, I changed my sig! I like it, and I'm sticking with it (until I make a better one, that is).

Just so you know
That image you recently uploaded of Mr. L for your sig was a duplicate of File:Mr. L.jpg, so it will be deleted. If you had some uses of that image, you should probably swap out the images for the original image.

I didn't upload a picture of Mr.L for my sig. I just put it on my user page.
 * Oh. Well, you seem to have transcluded your userpage onto several talk pages by signing like this:, so it's showing up on other pages because of that. Please sign with  or a personal sig at User:M&L/sig, not.

Oh. I've always signed like that and it has never caused problems.
 * That's because your userpage wasn't created yet. However, now that it's created, anytime you place it within a set of curly braces like any other template, it'll cause problems, so I recommend creating it on the subpage I linked to above and signing with that, or using the standard to sign, so you get a valid signature. You can still use a timestamp with five ~'s if you'd like.
 * If you'd swap the image on your page with File:Mr. L.jpg as soon as possible, I'd greatly appreciate it. If you want to keep the image you've uploaded of him, it needs to be marked as a Personal image, which will count as one of your four maximum PIs.

Sure. Just let me find it.

Stubs
I think that the other users should be taking action. There are a lot of small articles that should be deleted, yet haven't even been marked as a stub. I don't know everything, so I can't edit, yet I feel that to not become a stub and be deleted, these articles need more information. If none can be provided, then a vote should take place on the article's talk page, about whether or not it should be considered a stub and be deleted. Also, users that are adding to articles like these should be careful to add everything they can to the page, because if they know some interesting things about the article's subjects but are too lazy to add them, the article may not be big and informant enough to be considered an article and will be deleted, despite the fact that information can be added so it is not a stub. I have been doing this to ensure that all articles can stay. Also, if you're going to mark an article as a stub, have a vote on the talk page, because many people may consider as a real article, not a stub, and will be angry that you did so.

Your attitude
Let's get somethings straight you've got a real attitude trying to tell an admin how to do their job. Secondly i didn't waste your time you wasted your own time by adding links you knew were unnecessary. And finally you weren't right about stubs i should know i've spent a lot of time defending small articles like this Pure Water from being called stubs because there wasn't any info to be added
 * Raven Effect, with all due respect, stop being such an butt. Articles like Pure Water are like three sentences long, their stubs and your wasting your time defending them. Also, don't barge onto other people's talk pages and post rude comments unless you have a reason, because firstly, it won't help solve the issue, and secondly, I don't give a dang. Now unless you have something important to say that will help solve the issue or unless you want to appologize, get the heck off my talk page!>:(M&amp;L Beware my fury! 14:36, 18 January 2012 (EST)

You just don't get it
The whole thing is solved. Multiple people (including an admin), have decided to leave it as not a stub. You don't need to ask us to fix what is already fixed. Look, you're new. I'll cut you some slack. I don't know about the others.

It is not solved, you just stopped commenting. It is just too small to be considered an article, but I'll give in. You were right about the others, Raven Effect just left a comment. I appologize to both of you and to Mario4Ever. I won't add anything unless it truly becomes a stub.

Your current sig
When signing comments, either use just ~ (which has several coding problems for you right now due to how it's configured in your preferences) or. Using is causing several technical issues for you right now, so please don't use that.
 * I'm not using that one you say is causing me problems, I put my username after the | and before the ~'s, so it looks like it's supposed to, and it isn't causing problems. You're just annoyed by it and are trying to convince me to change it, right? I know you are, there's no point lying. Just let me sign how I want, okay?
 * Putting the ~'s inside the template after your username causes your sig to take up a whole line of text with coding that isn't executed properly. In fact, there's a policy page concerning how to use your sig, and what I've been telling you is an unofficial reminder to change your sig so it is in line with that policy.
 * Fine, I get it.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:23, 17 January 2012 (EST)
 * Hey, it actually works!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:24, 17 January 2012 (EST)
 * Thank you. One final thing though: you don't need to use the ~'s and . You can just use the ~'s as they are currently in your preferences (which I assume is just the "M&L Beware my fury" part), or just use when editing pages that enforce the no-sig policy.
 * Oh, okay! I'll try it out!(By the way, my sig is the "M&L Beware my fury" part. I got it from Fawful. Do you like it?)M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:38, 17 January 2012 (EST)

Reply
Apology accepted, but there was no argument. I simply told you what a stub was and why the Trampoline article did not fit the definition. I wasn't involved in anything that came after that. About the whole length thing, if it means anything, I made a similar mistake once, too, since stubs are often short.
 * Okay, thanks, I never thought there was much of an arguement between you and me, but the whole thing got a bit chaotic, so I call it an arguement. You were right about stubs, I was just being stupid. Everyone else is a bit ticked that I insulted an admin, which I'm guessing is you because the other don't seem mad about me insulting them, so it must be you. I'll try not to make that mistake again, and if I do I won't start an arguement. See ya around!

Bop1996

 * Hey, Bop1996. I can't post comments on your current talk page, Archive 1. Archive 2 is now inactive, but is the only one I can edit anymore. How come?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 11:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * My talk page is at its current location; I just archived the old discussions onto a new page to save space. You should be able to comment on my talk page if you need to.
 * Okay, I'll give it a shot.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 11:46, 18 January 2012 (EST)

New Rules

 * I changed my rules, because on my talk page other users should be free to voice their opinion. So if you swear on here, it's okay. If you want me to change it, leave comments below, like when you vote on articles talk pages about changing some of the more important things. Eventually, I'll add it up and I'll either keep the rules this way if that wins or change them back if that wins. If you request new or changing rules other than the ones I listed above, please do so in a new header below. Thanks.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 12:03, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Please take your time to vote, it will be a few days before I tally up the votes. If it ends in a tie or nobody votes, I will keep the rules the way they are. Use bullets and put your username under either support or oppose with a reason. This is a vote, so unless you're making comments in the comments section, no signatures!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:20, 18 January 2012 (EST)


 * Support
 * Oppose
 * Comments
 * Never mind, I have been informed by a friend I don't need to have a vote, so nobody vote! I will keep the rules the way I want them!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:34, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Stub
Look a stub is an article lacking sufficient information I.E missing info and the pure water article is not missing any info as no info can be added therefore it can not be considered a stub
 * No info could have ever been added. By the way, I already had a section your comment could have gone. Did you see my response? DID YOU?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:50, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Really if there is valid info that can be added than add it otherwise admit your wrong and acknowledge that the article is not a stub (also side note swearing is banned on anything that's not an article no matter what)
 * WHAT?! Fine, I'll change it, and I won't swear anymore. And it's not a stub, but defending it is a waste of your time if it isn't a stub. I have to go now. I'll come back and respond later. Bye.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:53, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * One last thing: I changed it. Is that better, Your Majesty?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:56, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * You should try reading the Mariowiki courtesy policy before someone gives you a warning for your attitude
 * Here's a link.
 * Alright. I'll read it.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 18:45, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Okay, I read it. I appologize for being rude and am grateful you did not issue a warning right off the bat. I will be more polite from now on. Let's never speak of that arguement on the talk page again. In fact, do you want me to delete eveything about it, because I will if you want. Sorry!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 18:52, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Deleting any users comments that are not spam will get you a warning
 * Sorry, I'll keep it there, I was just hoping that since that talk page is open to all public that we could get rid of it before anybody else saw it and got involved in it.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 19:06, 18 January 2012 (EST)

No
There will never be articles about Weegee and other related characters. They are just fanon and not licensed by Nintendo.
 * Really? I thought in one of the versions of Mario is Missing! that Luigi's sprite was Weegee, and he was therefore licensed by Nintendo.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 18:45, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * No. Weegee is the name of the meme, which originated from said sprite. Lord Grammaticus 19:14, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Oh, okay. I didn't know.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 19:16, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Oh, and by the way, in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, when Luigi enters a battle when he's alone he says "Go Weegee!".M&amp;L Beware my fury! 19:43, 27 January 2012 (EST)
 * So would this mean we can't create an article for Mr.M?(In case you don't know, Mr.M is like Mr.L except that it's Mario that's been brainwashed.) I mean, he has his own Brobot and Brobot M-types and their themes and his own theme, which is the same as Mr.L's but with higher notes. All he needs is a battle theme for himself (which their probably is that is just Mr.L's but with higher notes) and to switch roles (Luigi being the legendary hero that can flip to 3-D and Mario being the one with the higher jump, the Super Jump and the slight slide that gets brainwashed) and he can be real, so it's different than Weegee.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:21, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Where to find stubs
Since you're looking for stubs, click on "Wiki Maintenance" in the sidebar at left, then click "Category:Stubs" for a list of every article currently marked as a stub.
 * Thank you, Mario4Ever! This will really help me improve this wiki, and I owe it all to you.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:43, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Your information really helped, I found an article that was a stub, Dark Koopa (Super Paper Mario), and saved it from being deleted because stubs aren't allowed.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Your edit
About your edit on the Tribe of Darkness trivia, your first one doesn't make any sense. If they had children before Blumiere killed them off, wouldn't they be dead too? And second, your Nolrem comment was kind of inaccurate. There were those Flopside wizards who were good and Blumiere converted in the end. Dr. Macro Mindium 19:12, 20 January 2012 (EST)
 * There were no Flopside wizards beside Nolrem. And how do you know I made the edit, anyway? Are you stalking me?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:44, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Oi.
Good to see you're helping out. Lord Grammaticus 14:53, 21 January 2012 (EST)
 * Thanks.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:22, 23 January 2012 (EST)
 * Oh, and what does "oi" mean anyway? I'm not sure it's even a real word.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:15, 23 January 2012 (EST)
 * Don't worry yourself about it. Lord Grammaticus 08:40, 24 January 2012 (EST)
 * Hmph. Alright. Just don't taunt me, trying to make me ask what it is, 'K?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 17:01, 24 January 2012 (EST)

Warning

 * It never said you had to discuss it on the talk page! Why did you delete it?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:19, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Wait, how come you gave me a warning? I only did it once. And I guess my reason wasn't rational and that you just moved the article back. I apologize. Can you please remove the warning?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:42, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Spike Top
Buzzy Beetle is mentioned in the info box of the article
 * I was thinking of mentioning Spike Top in the Buzzy Beetle article.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:39, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * It's mentioned in the Super Mario World section and in the sub-species portion of the info box
 * Hmm... OK. And on the Mama Luigi article, should we mention the quot "That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario!" has become a famous YouTube Poop? It's been redone with Mr.L, Weegee and the combination of Mr.L and Weegee, Mr.W, so it would be solid information.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:44, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * No because in accordance with this proposal youtube poop is unofficial and should not be mentioned on any article
 * Okay, okay... I'll be back!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:47, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * Hey, I'm back! Is it okay if YouTube Poop is mentioned on an article's talk page? As in a request to put it in the article?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:31, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * Yes but it violates policy to actually put it in a article
 * Okay. I need to go now. The Mario (series) article got nominated for FA, but it needs work. You should help, too!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:39, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * I didn't mean follow me there and criticize my ideas.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 22:31, 30 January 2012 (EST)

Keeping The Peace

 * Please do not post any arguements about Luigi and Mr.L being different. If I was a patroller (and it was allowed), I would give out warnings against arguing. Don't worry, nobody has done this on my talk page, I just want you to know. I was going to put this in the rules section but I realized it's important enough to have it's own section. I can't punish you for arguing, but if you wish to argue, do so on another talk page, because I believe that Mr.L is Luigi and that anyone who disagrees should have their heads jumped on so many times the will get stuck inside your body, with Mr.L doing the stomping, and then having Brobot L-Type (because he's tougher) chewing up your remains and digesting them, leaving nothing but memories of you as the only part of you that still exists. Ciao!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:03, 31 January 2012 (EST)

Mario (series) -- WHAT??!!
I'm here to talk about the section that was made in the Mario (series) page. We can't lie and hide the fact that the series needed to be covered, as it is part of the Mario series. I think many people would be happier being who they are than living a lie. So, they'd rather the article get fixed later on than not get fixed at all. All the template is doing is attracting your attention to the part that needs fixing. So even if we got rid of the template, the article still needs fixing. It's like if an underground pipe was broken. No one would really know. But if you put a sign there that says the pipe is broken, then people would try to go fix it. However, the person who has the ability and tools to fix the pipe is in another country and doesn't know that the pipe needs fixing. Here, the sign is like the template; it attracts your attention to where the article (the pipe) needs fixing. As well, try not to post comments on Article Talk Pages UNLESS they contribute to making the article better. So don't just post a huge paragraph telling someone it's their "responsibility" (when it isn't) to go and fix the article if they are unable to. It helps no one, and it certainly doesn't help the article get any better. MarioComix 20:18, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * Okay, not to be arguementtive, but it's not like a pipe. Mario (or Luigi or Yellow Toad or Blue Toad) would be adventuring and would certaintly notice if a pipi is broken, and a sign explaining what happened would be unneeded-he could clearly see the damage. And being a plumber, he or Luigi (or possibly Wario or Waluigi, although it hasn't been confirmed that they're plumbers) could fix it easily-that's what plumbers do! And it is his responsibility, but I mean that it's his responsibility to help users and the wiki, and fixing the article would certainly be doing so. And also, it WAS about improving the article. I wanted him to try to help and fix it so the templates could be removed and it could be complete, because then it could become a FA (it's already been nominated), so I was trying to improve the article so it could represent the best of the wiki, thus improving the wiki too. And you don't need to butt in-and please use the article's talk page, as that is where the problem is and I check there to see if anybody left a response. If I am wrong in going to the article's talk page to discuss the problem instead of my own talk page, feel free to inform me. I'm not sure. But you got your facts wrong-many people wouldn't be happier living who they are instead of living a lie, as sometimes not lying gets them grounded, and then they certaintly wish that they were living a lie so they could be free (this may only apply to me, but I would rather live a lie then be truthful and get grounded, as being grounded for me meanss being locked in my room all day long, without being able to read any of my books.) and I would also say that they would rather forget about it as nobody at all has the information for the Game and Watch series and this could be a FA by forgetting about the Game and Watch series and just removing the templates-that's the only thing stopping this from being a FA. Only one user has noticed by themselves that the Game and Watch series isn't included, and opposing votes for this article becoming a FA all state we need the templates removed. People wantthem gone and I want to help. It'll be better, trust me. If you disagree, add the information and then get rid of the templates. Either way, this article can then become Featured and represent the best the wiki has, makimg everybody happy. Hope this isn't too long of a response! But since it's just taking up space on my talk page instead of an article, it doesn't matter-if it was in an article, there would be too much unneeded information that would get deleted, while here size doesn't matter to me and deleting it will get you a warning. Next time use a better example instead of a pipe (if you're a true Mario fan, you would know they're plumbers and the pipe example can't be used because of the numerous flaws which I have already pointed out) although I did like how you went into such deep detail. See ya!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:57, 31 January 2012 (EST)

The thing is, I meant a pipe in REAL LIFE, not the Mario Universe. Secondly, the Template doesn't change the article. It only addresses that it needs fixing. The thing is, if you get rid of the Template, that doesn't change the content about the G&W games, it just hides the fact that they need contributions. If you had to ship a glass chandelier in a box, and had a sticker saying "FRAGILE" on it, then it's just addressing the fact that it's fragile, so that people would know. However, if you get rid of that sticker, does that mean the chandelier is no longer fragile? No! So, unless it is decided by everyone that the info on the G&W series is sufficient, the template stays. MarioComix 21:12, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * But it's not addressing to the issue. People are saying stuff like "It can't be a FA, it has a rewrite-expand template on it!" without knowing what it means. They know that it wants the article rewritten and expanded, but they don't know what it wants expanded on or added, just like thepeople shipping the chandeleir know it's fragile, but don't know what it is that's fragile. Oh, and I don't think you can ship chandeleirs, but let me know, now you've got me curious!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:17, 31 January 2012 (EST)

But that's what the Talk Page is for. It's for addressing which part of the article needs to be rewritten and expanded. And you addressed that by asking why the G&W game series have that there. And the people who are saying that stuff are likely newer members who do not have an as-well developed sense of what a good article is. I mean, if an article is a Stub, some people may not edit it unless it has the Stub template on it that addresses the fact that it is a stub and needs expanding. Sure, the template is gone, and you may be happy, but in the end, the article was never fixed at all. MarioComix 21:30, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * But nobody on the talk page said which part of the article needed to be rewritten until I brought it up. Why? And the users are less new than me, and I understand it, and I must be one of the least knowledgable ones here, so they have a better developed sense of what a good article is than I do (because to me, if it has a few paragraphs containg information, has at least one picture, has many links to pages and from pages and is a reasonable length (at least one paragraph), it is an article) so they should know. And you never answered my shippin a chandeleir question. After we figure this out, let's have a conversation about something that isn't an issue (unless it is something like vandalism or we need to give out a warning, which I would need help with), okay? Thanks!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:38, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * Well, not all users are as mature as the one before. You're probably more mature than those other members. But really, a paragraph is usually too short, as most articles can squeeze in at least 2 paragraphs. MarioComix 23:44, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * I know, that's why the only article I made (if it's considered an article) is my user page, because that's the only page I had more than a paragraph's amount of information for (if I didn't, than how would I know who I was?). And you still haven't answered my shipping a chaandeleir question. In case you've forgotten, I was asking if you can ship a chandeleir.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 18:38, 1 February 2012 (EST)

Spelling

 * What's up with the spelling on the wiki? I've been making lots of edits since I joined, and I've noticed that while the majority of them are removing unnessecary information, adding information or changing incorrect information that a good chunk of those edits have been correcting grammar and spelling. And lots of the rewrite templates are to rewrite the article (most likely to fix grammar and such, as a few templates were removed after I fixed a couple of errors) or put it into proper verb tense. The verb tense one doesn't make sense, because the articles with that template are all in the correct verb tense. But barely any are to rewrite and expand. It seems that while a couple of articles are missing information, most of them just need better spelling. We should add an age restriction so younger kids can't edit the wiki, because they usually misspell things and end up giving that article they "fixed" a rewrite template. Plus, they don't seem to know all of the information, as they don't usually understand what's happening and think it's something else, so the information they put is usually wrong. And even if we can't do that, I would advise users with younger siblings to make sure they don't use your computer (or log inif you log out) to edit the wiki, as it may make people trying to find information think that what they put is correct, which could lead to some serious difficulty (example: reading that you can't climb vines in Super Mario Bros. 2 and end up unable to complete it as they can't even finish the first level because they think they can't climb vines, when in reality it's a neccesity) and major frustration when trying to complete a level by doing something that isn't correct, like having to hit certain buttons to complete a level (Chapter 1-3 from Super Paper Mario comes to mind) and having the wrong combination. This is extremely bad because people then may think that the wiki is lying and is untrustworthy, when in reality it's the best darn place to find information about Mario games. I'm sorry if this would belong on the forums, although I guess since it's my talk page I can do what I want, right? And I know that the header says "Spelling" and I've already changed the subject to an age restriction and then a warning about letting little sibling use your account, and now this. But once again, it's my talk page, so I can have a header and not even mention the subject it says breifly, although I wouldn't do that because it would be annoying and drive me crazy, so I advise you to not do it either. Hope this isn't too long to read, but I may make more comments this size (not on other users talk pages, unless I have something very important to say, as they might think of it as a waste of space, but I hope they don't, because size doesn't really matter on this wiki), so you may have to be prepared to read a lot if you want to see all of the content on my talk page, although most of the comments are mine, as this isn't a high-traffic zone. If you drop by, feel free to start a conversation! I reply as soon as I see a comment, so I am able to keep many conversations going at once! And they can last for days, like a comment a day or someone not being here for a few days and missing the comment. I appreciate it, and I hope you're not mad that what I'm writing does not apply to the header!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 17:51, 3 February 2012 (EST)

Whacka
Unfortunately there is no evidence to suggest that Whacka is a Monty mole other than a similar appearance and that itself is not enough to make them a Monty Mole as proven with this proposal
 * It wasn't really a propsal, although I want to make a proposal on merging Whacka with Monty Mole, but I have a question: if the proposal passes, do I have to merge it?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 18:51, 3 February 2012 (EST)
 * Yes but it wont pass since they have a different name different roles and the fact that Whackas have appeared in the same games as Monty Moles with out being called Monty Moles