MarioWiki:Proposals

List of talk page proposals

 * Split Category:Super Mario 64 into Category:Super Mario 64 and (discuss) Deadline: Passed

Writing guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment.

Removals
None at the moment.

Changing the Super Mario Wiki Logo!
It's time for the wiki to get a facelift and receive a brand new logo. The matter was brought up on the forums recently and I've been discussing it with several users, including Porplemontage. I presented a proposed design for the logo, and after a few adjustments I can now present it here:

This new logo is simple. Rather than displaying a piece of Mario himself, it shows the iconic mushroom. The mushroom is a symbol of the Mushroom Kingdom as a whole, similarly to how the wiki covers the entire franchise as a whole, even when Mario isn't the focus of a game. The current logo (seen at the top left of the page) is very dated, featuring artwork and screenshots from games that came out almost a decade ago. The proposed design is unique in that it won't become dated in a few years by each game that comes out.

What do you think? Should we change the logo to this new design, or keep the current logo?

Proposer: Deadline: February 1, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Switch to New Logo

 * 1) Per proposal
 * 2) I'm honestly going to miss the old one, but I agree, it's long overdue for a change.
 * 3) I like it!
 * 4) The design looks really good and everything Eldritchdraaks said about it symboling the Mushroom Kingdom instead of just Mario is really accurate. In other words, I like it enough for it to be the new logo. Per all.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Preferably should be drawn with vectors, though
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per all
 * 9) Per all
 * 10) Since Mario's cap is not proposed as alternative logo, voting this one. Surely, a logo that doesn't become outdate is better.
 * 11) Per all.
 * 12) Goody. Though I wish it was a little less generic.
 * 13) While the current logo is at least somewhat generic, the artwork of Mario and the game screenshots are from around a decade ago, which might not be as appealing to readers. Having a logo with a good enough genericness would give that logo a much longer life span. And yes, we as a wiki also provide details about the Yoshi and Wario series, so having a simple Mushroom would be good enough, since Yoshi and Wario are too connected to Mario to have their own wikis. However, I do agree with Baby Luigi's comment about converting the image to vector scale, but we can always cross that bridge if and when we come to it.
 * 14) That is a good looking logo.
 * 15) Per All. While I Do Agree That It's A Bit Generic, It's Also Easily Recognisable.
 * 16) - Per all.
 * 17) I'm gonna miss the old one. Per all.
 * 18) No real reason not to. Per all.
 * 19) The Super Mushroom represents the Mario franchise, like the emblem used to represent the Mario universe in the Smash Bros series. And also this is the perfect time to switch to the new logo to coincide the "new Nintendo", with their brand logo changed from "grey logo on white" to "white logo on red". Per all.
 * 20) The new logo isn't very unique or clever, so I'm hesitant to support it. However, it's definitely better than what we have now, so I guess it's okay.
 * 21) Per proposed.
 * 22) Per all.
 * 23) Per all. This logo is cool, much better than the old one.

Keep the Current Logo

 * 1) At the risk of sounding picky, I kinda like the current logo better. I have nothing against the one shown, but it's a matter taste and I just like the current one. If I need a reason why I like the current one, I like the screenshots behind Mario and the logo itself. While they are kinda hard to see, they do show a bit of the various games in the series overall.

Comments
The original file IS drawn with vector... mostly. It's x1500px.-- 22:45, 25 January 2017 (EST)

Barely related, but how does everyone feel about naming this Wiki Mushroom Kingdom Wiki? Not something that is going to be changed any time soon or even through a proposal to make the change, but I think it is worth discussing just as a hypothetical. -- 20:56, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 * Too close to The Mushroom Kingdom. 21:04, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 * The series is called "Mario" after all, so it makes sense to be named after that. 21:05, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 * But we cover a lot of non-Mario things, such as Luigi's Mansion, WarioWare, Donkey Kong Country (series), Super Smash Bros., Mario & Sonic (series), Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, and Yoshi (series) just to name a few examples. I already feel that we shouldn't cover some of those on another talk page. -- 15:34, 28 January 2017 (EST)

Along with the new logo, can this wiki change its wiki skin to Vector (with the search bar on the top right) as default? The new logo skin wouldn't fit in with the MonoBook skin. The Zelda Wiki, Smash Wiki and Nintendo Wiki all have the Vector skin as default. 21:45, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 * One change at a time! Isn't it possible to have it's size reduced or create a smaller one, though? ...Eh, I'd likely keep my setting to MonoBook anyway. 22:10, 27 January 2017 (EST)

One thing about the SVG version placed here last night is that while a PNG of 150px is 23KB, the vector is 342KB, which is significant. I would then use the PNG instead. You can also use a PNG of 300px instead to accommodate for high density screen users (51KB), or both and have it be switched as needed by CSS. 09:52, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * If filesize is a concern, the SVG can just be scaled down to the desired x150px and uploaded as that, right? 08:18, 28 January 2017 (EST)


 * That's not how SVG works. SVG grows in size as the complexity of the image increases, not the resolution. 13:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, gotcha. In that case, I think we're better off uploading a PNG at the appropriate 150px size for use in the CSS, and keeping the full SVG available for potential use elsewhere. 08:37, 28 January 2017 (EST)
 * This isn't about png or svg, it's about the logo design. I've already discussed the png vs svg with Steve.-- 12:32, 28 January 2017 (EST)


 * The format is good to think about though. What was the outcome of your discussion? Can't seem to find it on his talk. 21:44, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a private discussion. The proposal isn't about the format; it's not something up for discussion here, and will be decided by Steve himself.-- 17:31, 28 January 2017 (EST)

Oh yeah, if this proposal passes, we need to change. -- 15:38, 28 January 2017 (EST)
 * And the bookmark icon too. --Andymii (talk) 14:53, 1 February 2017 (EST)

If the png is run through PNG Monstrous, it can be reduced from 23334 bytes to only 18881 bytes. I would recommend doing it. 15:14, 1 February 2017 (EST)
 * It looks like Steve changed the logo early, but it's not the right one... so I'm confused.-- 15:18, 1 February 2017 (EST)
 * Scratch that, it's all good now.-- 15:25, 1 February 2017 (EST)

Miscellaneous
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