Talk:Super Mario Galaxy 2

120 star prize
What do you guys think the in-game prize is for collecting 120 stars? Me, I think it's a new character or two. User:DK Fan

It's the Special World. Look at SMG2 Prima's Guide. Mario Fan 123 - Mario's CRAAAZY FAN!


 * Please talk about this on a forum, this is for serious questions, not speculation unfortunately. --

Reference to other games
Should we add a references to other games section? There are some elements from older Mario games.
 * Well, I heard a music from super mario world, I saw checkpoint flag, berries...etc.I think that is not all...I agree with Mario JC.Any other opinions?
 * Are there certain and noteworthy references yet? If not, I'd suggest waiting until the game cets actually released. - 06:57, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

So hows about that reference to other games section? The game's released (in USA, and Australia's release date is still about a month away...) =(

Boss changes?
WHERE IS IT CONFIRMED THAT THE ICE TAP-TAP THING IS A BOSS. if it's a boss then why isn't the chomp head a boss as well??? User:MarioMaster720
 * The fact that it has the same 'Boss' music as Peewee Piranha? Perhaps?

perhaps you should try signing your comments? and the E3 Trailer didn't show the boss music. give me a link that shows the music & boss and i 'l' see. User:MarioMaster720
 * E3 2009 trailer? Do you realise how old that is? There was absolutely NO music officially recorded for that game whatsoever, apart from the sequenced 'trailer' music. Watch this, and it will prove to you that it has "boss" music.--TheUltimateKoopa 14:05, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

@MarioMaster720 On the Japanese website it shows a TON of those chomps on a planet. AND it shows a Power Star in a cage on the same planet.

Ok, i see it now. thanks guys :-) User:MarioMaster720

Upside Dizzy
Which of these is Upside Dizzy, and whatever is Upside Dizzy, what is the OTHER one called?

Is it the galaxy featured in this image: File:SMG2_Comet_Metal.png

Or the galaxy featured in this video:

They both have the whole 'gravity is determined by the background' thing going, exept the one in the picture has the gravity change automatically, where as the one in the video has the gravity changed via switches. Is the one in the picture an early version, or are they just different galaxies with very similar 'gimmicks', like Bubble Blast vs Bubble Breeze in Super Mario Galaxy, for example?

Again, if one is Upside Dizzy, which one, and therefore, what's the other one?--TheUltimateKoopa 13:36, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

Maybe both of these are parts of upside dizzy galaxy? and again SIGN YOUR COMMENTS (THE ONE WHO ASKED WHICH WAS UPSIDE DOWN GALAXY!!!!!!!!! User:MarioMaster720
 * GET SOME GLASSES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT I DID SIGN MY COMMENT!!!!!!!!!! Can't you see where it says TheUltimateKoopa 13:36, 18 May 2010 (EDT)? IF not, you should learn to read.--TheUltimateKoopa 13:57, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
 * Calm down now! Both of you! - 14:19, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

it was a misunderstanding because i thought that someone else wrote a comment before you said "They both have the whole 'gravity is determined by the background' and so on.... My fault sorry. User:MarioMaster720

The picture has a BETA comet medal, so the picture is of beta Upside Dizzy. PiranhaBomb

The other galaxy is the rightside down galaxy. -Rosalina1234

Confirmed Galaxies
If you go to the Prima Games website you will find all the confirmed galaxies. Here are some unconfirmed ones that are now confirmed. World 1: Rightside Down Galaxy. World 2: Wild Glide Galaxy. World 3: Freezy Flake Galaxy and Rolling Masterpiece Galaxy. World 4: Supermassive Galaxy, Flipsville Galaxy, Starshine Beach Galaxy, Chompworks Galaxy, Sweet Mystery Galaxy, Honeyhop Galaxy, Bowser's Gravity Gauntlet. World 5: Space Storm Galaxy, Slipsand Galaxy, Shiverburn Galaxy, Boo Moon Galaxy, Fleet Glide Galaxy, Bowser Jr.'s Boom Bunker. World 6: Melty Monster Galaxy, Clockwork Ruins Galaxy, Throwback Galaxy, Flash Black Galaxy, Slimy Spring Galaxy, Bowser's Galaxy Generator. Special World: Mario Squared Galaxy, Rolling Coaster Galaxy, Twisty Trials Galaxy, Stone Cyclone Galaxy,Boss Blitz Galaxy, Flip-out Galaxy, Grandmaster Galaxy. Well there you have it


 * Prima Game Guide for Super Mario Galaxy 2 here.
 * So, wait does that mean that, in response to my question above about Upside Dizzy, that the article about Upside Dizzy is actually describing "Rightside Down" galaxy?--TheUltimateKoopa 20:39, 18 May 2010 (EDT)


 * Kind of. The screenshot was the Upside Dizzy Galaxy And the video Rightside Down. At least I'm pretty sure. signed It's a me 123


 * Before we jump to conclusions, let us patiently wait 5 more days till the game comes out in America. I don't trust Prima Guide though, so no. --

Never knew of that... OK

To many screen Shots
There are over 50 screen shots of the game, I think we could remove a lot.Doctorseaweed 23:49, 18 May 2010 (EDT)


 * The pictures will eventually be sorted out to their galaxies and crappy images or duplicates will be deleted. --

Isn't there like a Galaxy name Yoshi Galaxy or Yoshi Egg Galaxy?

Its the yoshi star galaxy. -Rosalina1234

Whomp King
I do not believe that the whomp in the transmission is the whomp king. Just becuase it is in the same spot doesn't mean it is the same thing. It loooks just like a normal whomp. Ganondox


 * I agree, but we don't know yet. --
 * Yeah, how do we know that's the actual Whomp King. It could just be a normal, giant Whomp.

We have no proofs that he's the whomp king, should we delete the info?Also, where is this giant whomp seen, is there a video link?
 * The one where the original Whomp King used to be may not be the Whomp, but there IS a Whomp King in the game. For starters, the mission is called Return of the Whomp King, and secondly, the actual boss has a crown.--TheUltimateKoopa 08:28, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
 * You're right, the "whomp king" we saw was just an ordinary whomp(or a giant whomp)that you have to defeat and access the king's battle.We mistaked him for the king because in Super Mario 64 he was in the top of the fortress.

Enemy Changes!!!
When i first watched this video: http://mynintendonews.com/2010/05/20/nintendo-wii-super-mario-64-level-featured-in-mario-galaxy-2/. I noticed an identical Giant Purple Piranha plant at 0:35 as the ones in Super Mario Galaxy. I checked the enemy list and Piranha plant article and it stood nothing about it so i added it on the enemy list. And by the way, Those enemies piloting Koopa Clown Copters look almost identical to the Undergrunt Gunners also from the First game. I won't add the Koopa Clown Enemy in the article, but the Purple piranha plant MUST be there.

I could've sworn those were monty moles. But whatever. i agree.

King Boo Located (perhaps)


Under Haunty Halls Galaxy, they added the comment: "I shake my fist at you, King Boo"

Thats possible. I will search for more info. How botu you look, too?


 * interesting... but we'll have to see about that. Only 3 more days till it is released in America. --

Chargin Chucks?
Is there proofs chargin chucks are appearing?


 * Yes, I saw them in a video, they both look and behave like Chargin' Chucks. --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 08:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

Where is the vid?


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDnJgTEg_Wo --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 08:52, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

Where? I didn't see them.

i didn't see it either. Can you us which second in the video they appear? for example 0:33 or 1:25? User:MarioMaster720


 * 2:18. --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 18:34, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

that is indeed a chargin chuck

That doesn't look like a Chargin' Chuck to me. For starters, Chargin' Chucks don't have a spike on their head, nor do they hop like that. Also, where's it's Koopa-like features? And by the way, did I sound mean when I said that? Because if I did, I didn't mean it!

It is not a Chargin' Chuck.

I think it's a swaphopper. Anothermariofan 21:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

This was discussed a month ago, so we already know that's a Swaphopper...

Two Questions
The first one is, where is the proof of the names of the new bosses. And the second is, where is the Ice Flower?! I mean, every one power-up is returning!
 * Maybe they removed the Ice Flower for some kind of reason. I think I know which reason. *checks New Super Mario Bros. Wii*

Why didn't the one who wrote the new bosses's names apply their sources. Like said in the "Sources" topic sentence: EVERY SINGLE EDIT TO ADD INFO TO THIS PAGE MUST BE SOURCED, ELSE, IT WILL BE REMOVED. So i will remove the bosses until someone can confirm that those are the official names. User:MarioMaster720
 * Because you can't really put "the game" as a source, even though "the game" was the source. Well, to be exact, a live playthrough of the game. Whoever said it was called Mallettoid is an idiot. It's Megahammer.

--TheUltimateKoopa 20:03, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
 * I think the Ice Flower was removed because Yoshi's Dash Pepper already lets you walk on water.Y0SHI3gg 21:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, use the Forum For speculation, not talk pages.

Mallettoid is Megahammer's beta name. See this game's list of beta elements. PiranhaBomb

New Bosses?
Okay, so I was on IGN.com, and it showed videos of new boss fights, their names, and the galaxies theyre fought in:

-Glamdozer looks like an obese clam-pig and is fought in Flipsville Galaxy.

-Pikante looks like the result of a 3-way crash between an electrogoomba, monty tank, and an undergrunt gunner and is fought in Shiverburn Galaxy.

-Squizzard looks like a blargg magmaargh covered with sand and is fought in Slipsand Galaxy.

-Lakitu is the name that appears for the obese lakitu (not sure if this is offical.)

-Sorbetti is the ice taptap creature and is fought in Freezy Flake Galaxy.

Not sure if the names are correct (Sorbetti, Pikante, Lakitu). We'll find out Sunday for sure. These are what I think they look like.

Also, where is their proof of Dino Piranha and all those other bosses returning in the game?
 * I haven't seen Dino Piranha in the game yet, but Bugaboom appears in a galaxy in world 2. None of those other returning bosses are sourced, so it might not be true.
 * Boss Blitz Galaxy, it has the five bosses from the first game. '

Um, it's PRINCE Pikante. See his page. And 'Lakitu' is actually Giga Lakitu. Again, see his page. PiranhaBomb


 * PiranhaBomb you are replying to questions from a few months to years ago and are most likely unneeded. 21:20, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Stars?
Does anyone have a complete list of stars in order? I did a list on another site (nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Galaxy_2), however, some of the main galaxies' normal (yellow/gold) stars are secret stars, but some are just a second normal star, and the galaxies with secret stars have a normal star, then comet star, then secret star (i.e. the comet star is 2nd), where as the other galaxies have a normal star, another normal star, and THEN the comet star as a third star. Also, every single galaxy has the same number of Green Stars as yellow stars, except Grandmaster Galaxy, which only has 2 (The Ultimate Test and The Perfect Run)--TheUltimateKoopa 14:19, 24 May 2010 (EDT)

UNDELETE THE GALAXY2BOX NOW!
Why did you have to delete the "galaxy2box" template you STUPID idiots? It's been up for about THREE MONTHS, and there was a freaking REASON for it! It was NOT an "exact copy of the galaxybox template". It had the word "World" instead of "Dome" for starters! --TheUltimateKoopa 07:40, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry TUK but having two infoboxes on the same subject is slightly (very) redundant and that creates useless templates. If you notice a problem with the new template you are free to fix it, the page isn't protected is it? I believe you already have fixed it in fact! Now, the current problem does not seem like a problem to me anymore...
 * Maybe you should have ranted here in the first place instead of replacing the page with your comment. And use appropriate language (this doesn't answer your question, but I'm telling you this).
 * It's all right for now, all; I just noticed that because of this "rant", TheUltimateKoopa got a three month ban as the result -- primarily for flaming. And I can see why. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 03:50, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

Seriousley where is Toad?
Okay guys. I asked this question in the first archive. But now you played the game and all that, I can't see Toad, where is he?
 * The Toad Brigade is in the game. They're Toads. I could be wrong, but there also might be some Toads in the game's opening as well.
 * I know there are TOADS, but I'm asking about the character named Toad.
 * No, there's the species of Toad in the game.
 * So, Toad isn't present in this game?And I mean him, not the specie.
 * The actual character Toad doesn't appear in SMG2, only the species does.
 * Isn't the captain of the Toad Brigade the Toad?
 * What?Where is it comfirmed?
 * I don't know, but it's been mentioned prievously on the site.

No Spindel
Apparently, those "Spindels" are actually called Romps. So, should I get rid of Spindel being in the game?


 * Yes. --

UR MR GAY/ YA IM RU
On the Super Mario Galaxy discussion page it was said that the infamous "UR MR GAY" star boxart spelling should NOT be included in the trivia section, Recent SMG2 fans have noticed another "sexual" spelling in the boxart of Super Mario Galaxy 2 which normally says: UR MI AY, but if read backwards it says: YA IM RU which is translated to:           SMG: You're Mr. Gay? SMG2: Yeah i am, are you?. I'm 100% sure that CAN'T be a coincidence so i think that it deserves a mention in the trivia section. The first one was not mentioned because it could have been a coincidence, but this....Come on. Respond so i will know if i will add it or not. User:MarioMaster720
 * I'm 100% sure that IS a coincidence. Mario games aren't THAT immature. Koopalmier 17:29, 5 June 2010 (EDT)
 * No.
 * Really, you actually think you're gonna add something inappropriate like that in the article?

Ok, i get it. User:MarioMaster720

The stars under A and I could just as easily be seen as being under L and O.--Kirbychu HR&#39;D 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Gimme a break! Why do you guys try to make nintendo look bad? And yes the stars could be seen under L and O. making that thing say you are moly.

Dino Piranha, King Kaliente, Major Burrows
Why does this keep getting changed back? During the game you have to battle Dino Piranha and King Kaliente four times, the regular mission, the speed run, and both green star mission. Major Burrows is three times, normal mission, speed run, and the second green star mission. Yes, you do have to battle them in order to make the launch star appear in order for you to get to the next planet so you can make your way to the green star, so stop removing this. --SinnohMasterGalaxy 23:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You do not have to do that for Green Stars. The Green Stars are scattered throughout the levels, but beating the bosses does not ever (as far as I know), actually give you a Green Star. That means you only have to beat them once or twice.
 * Actually, SinnohMasterGalaxy is right, you need to beat them to progress.--
 * I'm with SinnohMasterGalaxy you need to beat them in order to progress. Alexfusco5 ( Talk ) 01:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? For the Green Stars?
 * ^Looks somebody didn't get that far in the game. :) Yes, you have to, but the Green Stars are easy to spot.--

Featured Article
I'm thinking in putting SMG2 as a Featured Article. What do you think? --Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craaazy fan!
 * You can nominate it if you'd like, but to be honest, its defiantly not FA material at this point. It needs a little more work, the game only came out last month.


 * I agree with the fury, still not complete enough to be a FA. Some unchecked parts still say "the game will feature" and stuff like that.
 * Besides, it needs more images.


 * Now, there are more images. Can I do it? I just need permission. --Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craaazy fan!
 * You don't need permission. You can nominate it now.
 * How about now, Fawlfulfury? Lindsay65 had undid my edit. -- 22:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Do what you want, but i dont think its ready yet. 22:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree with BluePikminKong. Wait another year month, or a few weeks.

The Baby Luma and Mario's Hat
''When the Baby Luma heads back to his home, he takes Mario's hat as a souvenir, which did make Mario feel shocked. Afterward, Rosalina and the Baby Luma return to the Comet Observatory, and the ship flies off. ''

I saw a video that had the Baby Luma take Luigi's hat. Should it be changed to Luigi's hat instead of Mario's Hat??? 14:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

It depends on whom you're playing as.mAnd stop obsessing about Wayoshi.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 Reception
I want to add something in Reception area: On GameRankings.com, it is current tied for first place with The Legend of Zelda: Ocarnia of Time (put a hyperlink on Zelda Wiki.org) but I think it's "closed" right now. Can anyone edit it? --AnonymousPerson 22:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Refrences to other Games section
This section is 99% accurate, but it says that The intro to SMG2 is a continuation from the Grand Finale Galaxy from the first game. This is speculation, no? The Grand Finale Galaxy left off with Mario getting a Power Star right in front of Peach's castle, but when SMG2 starts, Mario is not here, and Peach invites him to the castle. The nattarater even says: "The Star Festival has comeAgain" (Well, he said something like" The star festival happens every hundred years, and that time has come again) Should this inaccurate information be deleted? Ratfink43

Innacurate "New Enemies" Section?
The "New Enemies" section of the page lists a number of enemies that have appeared in previous Mario games (Big Boos, Hammer Bros., and Whomps to name a few). Many of the enemies listed are ones that didn't appear in Super Mario Galaxy, but are certainly not new. If I am misunderstanding the purpose of this section and it is in fact for listing enemies that appear in a game that weren't in it's prequel then please let me know.--Kirbychu HR&#39;D 04:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe the section references enemies new to the Super Mario Galaxy series (i.e. not in the first game) and it is accurate on that count
 * Well then the section title should probably be changed. The current title suggests that the enemies listed are enemies new to the Mario series, and similar sections on other articles (Such as the "New Enemies" section on the page for New Super Mario Bros.) only use the section for that purpose. There should at least be a note saying that the enemies are new to the Mario Galaxy series and not the Mario series as a whole.--Kirbychu HR&#39;D
 * I think people realize the section does not pertain to the Mario series as a whole, since the returning enemies section features enemies found only in the first Galaxy.

Dislikes About Galaxy 2
My dislike is probably...I say...oh, enemies. Some should appear much more.
 * These kind of discussions belong in the forum.


 * Yeah, this is for the article.

How do you edit the article?
I am having trouble editing the Super Mario Galaxy 2 article. I cannot find any sort of "edit" buttons neither at the top of the aricle, nor in a section. I am also having this trouble with NSMBW. Is this because I do not have something that users who edit the article have, or is it that this article cannot be edited at all?--Holyromanemperortatan 15:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The article can only be edited by autoconfirmed users; see Autoconfirmed users for more information.--vellidragon 15:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Before you put your comment, I then just found out the article has locked to prevent editing. But thanks anayway!--Holyromanemperortatan 15:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Power Up Locations
This Article should have a Power Ups section with the galaxies they appear in (including Yoshi's Fruits). The Super Mario Galaxy article has it so this article should have it too.

Sincerely User:ED120

Red and Blue Platforms?
Okay, under the Gameplay Elements section, it says that Red and Blue platforms were brought back from Super Mario Sunshine. I know what they are from SMG2, however I don't recall anything like that ever being in Super Mario Sunshine at all...would anyone be able to enlighten me?

17:32, 11 April 2011 (EDT)


 * I'm not sure if this fits in the talk page, but they appear in the second secret level in Bianco Hills, in the star The Secret of the Dirty Lake.
 * It does fit, since it's a question of the article's accuracy. 17:21, 12 April 2011 (EDT)


 * Oh yeah! Now I remember, I know exactly what you're talking about! But those things definitely aren't the same as the Red and Blue Platforms that appear in the Flip Swap Galaxy (and a few other galaxies). For one thing, they rotated at their centers, i.e. - not like hinges on doors like these ones, and if I recall correctly, those platforms are actually orange and blue, not Red and Blue, plus, they have wood on their centers, and therefore appear not to be made of metal, and they rotated independently of the player's control, and they are like 2x thicker than in SMG2, and they move around randomly and bounce into each other while flipping instead of remaining stationary, and they don't all flip at the same time, they alternate flipping (also, the two colors are not physically connected, though I think that was mentioned in the article already)...the point is, there's a world of differences here, why are we claiming they're the same things just 'cause they look slightly similar?

02:19, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

sequel
according to this, there will be another Mario Galaxy game for the 3ds.

Wikipedia is an unreliable source; don't put that info on the article yet. ThirdMarioBro: Mario,   Luigi,  and me! 15:37, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

It is to late to hear about if it is coming out in 2011. Usually we hear about new games coming out a year or two before it comes out.

It seems to me like the Mario articles on the Simple English Wikipedia as extremely underdeveloped. Half of them don't even have pages! Considering this, I don't believe we should add it to the article.

*enemies which first appeared in super mario galaxy?
Can I replace this with old enemies new to smg2 (i.e. hammer bro)? I think that is more significant than "*enemies which first appeared in super mario galaxy".


 * No. There is already a "New Enemies" section above the "Returning Enemies" section. I don't see the point of your question. 06:34, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

I mean Enemies hich have never appeared in the Super Mario Galaxy series,but have appeared in previous mario games. Such as, Hammer Bros and Fuzzies are not brand new enemies,but they are new to the SMG series.

About the title...
I've heard, and seen that if you take every letter with a star nearby, you get U R Mr Gay. 12:11, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

Tables
I think about removing the Xs in the table like in Mario Kart (series)

Wrong Table Headings and Missing Column
In section "Prankster Comets", "Episode Title" in the table heading should be "Comet Type", while "Based on" should be "Episode Title". Column "Based on" is actually absent from the whole table. Hippopo (talk)


 * Edited the names (it does sound a lot better that way), thanks for pointing that out. I might put the "Based on" column in later. - Turboo (talk) 03:26, 23 September 2014 (EDT)

Really a sequel
While it's true that many, even those at Nintendo, claim Mario Galaxy 2 to be a sequel, by definition, I don't believe Mario Galaxy 2 qualifies as a true sequel to the first game. Nothing in games makes reference to the first game, no events mentioned, the game treats it as Mario's first time in outer space, no Lumas recognize Mario. None of it lives up to the true definition of the word "sequel". I can provide some sources for this, based on the development of the game, though I can't say for sure if they count as truly reliable.

http://www.infendo.com/super-mario-galaxy-2-not-a-true-number-2/

And in the Iwata Asks about the game (http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/supermariogalaxy2/0/0), Miyamoto even stats that the game was not named Galaxy 2 out of means for being a sequel, but more for the fact that more than enough new elements were put in to say it's not a follow up, but something almost new.

So I simply ask; can it really be called a sequel by definition or are we going to list it off as a sequel based on the similar idea and name? I personally don't find it correct to call it a sequel if it doesn't really act like one.
 * Unless you want to start targeting every one of the series' sequels (NSMB to NSMB2, SMB to SMB2 to SMB3 to SMW, etc.), it seems rather pedantic to say that a game with a 2 in its title isn't a sequel. Say what you want about what Nintendo considers the game to be or whether or not it's substantial enough to warrant being separate, but the fact is that we got a game titled in a way that sequels are titled, so I'd rather apply Occam's Razor. Also, the game's numerous characters, abilities, items, aesthetic, and general gameplay are all incredibly evocative of its predecessor, so saying that nothing references the first game is rather misleading.
 * I'm not saying nothing references the first game. Everything you listed is pretty much taken directly from the first game. I'm simply saying that stuff like the plot and how characters interact or react to one another don't support the game being a sequel. Though you have a point regarding the games you listed (NSMB2 has actually been called the direct sequel to the first NSMB if I recall and I believe some elements of Mario World's story do reference back to Mario Bros. 3), the only arguable one is SMB to SMB2, which don't really say the events happen directly after the other. Maybe I'm just complicating things, but I guess it could be simpler just to say it's a sequel to avoid confusion.
 * I'm pretty sure the reason Galaxy 1 isn't mentioned is because of it's ending. Remember that the universe recreated in that epic scene. Therefore, no one remembers Mario's previous adventures in space, except Mario and Rosalina, as they were in some sort of sanctuary watching the universe be recreated. And yes, this is the basis for a speculative theory, but while the theory itself cannot be mentioned on the wiki, the basis for it is pretty solid, I think. If this is too speculative, please disregard it at once. I guess what I'm saying is I would consider this a sequel, not least because of the 2 in its title.
 * 10:37, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * Question, would not you consider Dream Team a sequel also because of its lack of continuity? Does a sequel need some continuity to be a sequel? 10:40, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * Going strictly by definition, a sequel is "A published, broadcast, or recorded work that continues the story or develops the theme of an earlier one." There are other definitions that fall more in line with what I discussed above, but this is usually the most common definition. The keyword there is "story": if a work doesn't follow the narrative of a preceding work, it can be argued that it isn't actually a sequel. Of course, I think that definition is too strict, especially for the wiki's purposes, but I'm playing devil's advocate. 11:55, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * Due to the lack of continuity in the Mario franchise, I don't think the definition Time Turner gives is valid. In this franchise, a sequel is a game succeeding another game with a similar name/theme. But even if it somehow does apply to the wiki, see my previous comment.
 * 13:14, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * But you can argue that it's a sequel since it does "develop the theme of an earlier one". Within the scope of video games, there is little doubt this is a sequel. 18:01, 7 November 2016 (EST)