Talk:Mario & Luigi: Dream Team/Archive 1

Those villager people, are they those things from M&L:SS?
The Hoohooligans, they look a lot like those wooden cave people. What do you think? GamerGuy09 (talk) 17:25, 14 February 2013 (EST)

Could be. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 17:35, 14 February 2013 (EST)

Hold it people. Do we even know if Alpha Dream is returning?
I've only seen one news source assume that they are, but primary / direct sources don't suggest this yet as far as I can tell. 144.80.59.7 17:54, 15 February 2013 (EST)

You have a point. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 19:57, 15 February 2013 (EST)

On Nintendo.com's page it says perfectly the developer is Alpha Dream. --Mariobro101 (talk) 09:07, 1 July 2013 (EDT)

Gridlocked Movement
"instead of the locked grid movement from past games"? None of the 3 released Mario & Luigi games used grid based movement. I have no idea where this assertion as come from... SirPrimalform (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2013 (EST)
 * Removed.

Origin
This game is probably based in a project made by Alpha Dream in jul 2012. You can see the proof here: http://www.reinodocogumelo.com/2012/07/alpha-dream-de-mario-luigi-registra.html.

Release
I heard from the guy at the local game store that a release date has been confirmed, but I forget when...or if it's even true. I believe the release date that he stated was in June...that's all I remember. Again, whether or not it's even correct, I dunno. -Pink_Boozooka

Coins
"The battles seem to give out coins, similar to the paper Mario series". All the games in the Mario & Luigi series so far give out coins for battles. RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!! (talk) 06:23, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

I think they mean in the midst of battle. And it only refers to Paper Mario: Sticker Star, since in battle, enemies give coins for every hit after the killing hit. - Shroobtimetraveller (Talk) 0045 Hours, 7/11/2013 (AEST)

Possible move?
On that picture with the battle, could that "dream block" be similar to the vacuum block except it sucks enemies into Luigi's dream when Luigi's "asleep"? RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!! (talk) 14:21, 5 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Perhaps, but it's worth a minor note. 14:31, 5 April 2013 (EDT)

redirect
maybe it is a good idea to add DT as a redirect (mind pit, ss, and bis).


 * Except DT is extremely vague. Other titles can have DT in their name. SS is also an ambiguous abbreviation, since it can mean "Super Sluggers". "Pit" already has an article as the character and the bottomless trap. BIS can work, but again, the full abbreviation is already there. I don't think we need these redirects.
 * 22:59, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Trivia
Isn't this the first Mario and Luigi game where the European title is different than the US version

Bowser?
Is there a conclusion to Bowser in all of this?


 * I'm not quite sure I get what you're trying to ask.
 * 19:35, 24 April 2013 (EDT)


 * CRode is aking wether or not Bowser has been confirmed to appear in the game, the answer is not yet, but as he has made past appearances in the series i wouldn't doubt that he would appear. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

The item
there are some item that are at mario and luigi dream team demo game is Mushroom, Super Mushroom, nuts, Super nuts, wonder nuts, Syrup, Super syrup, star candy, super star candy, 1-up mushroom, 1-up mushroom +, ghost cookies, refreshing herb, Chocolates, Super Chocolates, and... SECRET BOX. i got the information from planet3ds.de video
 * 13:59, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
 * Can we get the link for this? 21:47, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

What do you think the super star candy will do if the star candy heals 999 HP AND SP, how much more OP CAN YOU GET other than you use it and it gives a level.


 * It isn't called Star candy anymore, but just Candy and also it doesn't fully heal your HP and Sp, instead it just helas a little of both, Super versions heal more of both


 * PrinceKoopaIV (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

antasma/release date.
how do i check antasma is the main antogonist? once, it was comfirmed on this page that dream team would be released next winter, why?


 * Antasma is currently unknown, we don't what she looks like, so I'm not sure for that one. As for Winter, it was Winter this year and I read that date from a magazine, but Nintendo Direct confirmed dates.

luiginary attack
if you hit the block with the face of luigi is like a bros. attack block and the content is this : Dream Ball and Constellation of Luigi.... ( just that all i know )
 * 15:39, 29 April 2013 (EDT)

German name of "ユメボー"
I am not an expert on the German language, but I believe that "Alle" means "All". That term only appears in Youtube videos because Mario's Hammer targets multiple enemies. When targeting an enemy made out of purple bricks with the Jump attack, the game displays "Schlummba".
 * "Alle" does mean "all", you're totally right. And yes, I'm German :) --MeincraftManu (talk) 18:16, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

"Piswald-Park"
In a Youtube video (the 6th cited source, I do believe) what appears to be a Pi'llow (after being freed from a Nightmare Chunk) tells Mario, Luigi, Dreambert and Starlow to go to "Piswald-Park". Thing is, it's in German, so I can't understand it! Also, I believe Dream Luigi is called Dream-Luigi, not Dream Luigi (with no dash). RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!! (talk) 04:26, 4 May 2013 (EDT)
 * I think you mean the "Pilzwald-Park", which is something like "Mushroom-Forest Park" in English. The source is the 7th and 8th, that video from nintendomination. And yes, I'm German :) --MeincraftManu (talk) 18:18, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

Red Yoshi
Look at the upper-left corner it's obviously him.


 * I'd hate to go bursting some bubbles or breaking some barrels, but that could actually be a Shyguy as they do share the same colour palette, Red Yoshi's with a normal Shyguy that is. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)


 * Well I think it's a Red Yoshi because it looks as if it has a tail.

Well, it could be a Shy Guy because it also looks like it has a mask.

It is a Red Yoshi, you can see it on the European Trailer when it shows a overview of Wake Port

There is a red yoshi in the hotel in the same room as yoshi http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7c/ShyGuyRed-CSS2-MSS.png Shyman

Reference?
Is the title a reference to the NBA Dream Team or anything called Dream Team ? 08:45, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
 * I think it's just because the key part of the gameplay takes part in Luigi's dream.
 * Yes of course, but it can be a reference too. 13:09, 18 May 2013 (EDT)
 * I think it's more likely that they were going with the gameplay feature rather than a reference.
 * The name is about the gameplay, as in the previous games Mario & Luigi are a team and it is also set in the dream world/reality/dimension. It also is kind of a link to Superstar sagas title and partners in time, continuing the trend of focusing the title on both the .bros as the main heroes. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

I'm probably gonna stop arguing because it's probably not worth it, but even if the name comes from the gameplay and some consistency, it could still be a reference. 17:54, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
 * Nah, just coinicdence, or continuity really, it could be about gameplay im not sure, but it's not really a referance. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

It could be based off of the producers, AlphaDREAM (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

Cover
Do any of you know when the NA cover will be announced?


 * I don't think that information is publicly available. But if the Japanese box art is out, then the NA one shouldn't be too far off. Maybe we'll have some luck with the June 11 Nintendo Direct.


 * 08:22, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

A couple new areas?
Looking at http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Scenery_Artwork_-_Mario_%26_Luigi_Dream_Team.png ... you can notice what seems to be a tower with Bowser's head on top of it. Could this mean Bowser's Castle is making a return?

What seems to be buildings can be seen too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y2uLFo8CUPw#t=34s Buildings are also seen in the background here. Is this confirming a city area? Should both these possibly new areas be added in the artcile then? Koopalmier (talk) 16:55, 5 June 2013 (EDT)


 * I think this is actually just background artwork for character profiles, the manual or just for use as a desktop background, i really don't think you'll get any locations from this image. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

Special pillow or wavelengths?
In an article on ONM's latest article on it (I can't supply a link sadly as my internet is running really slow and can't load it's page as theres so much to load.), it is stated that Luigi actually connects to the dream world as his "dream wavelength" is in complete synchronization, which allows him to open portals. If so that means the pillows allow Luigi to fall asleep instantly allowing this synchronization to make a portal between the two worlds. Anyone agree, - Cubeguy(talk)

Brickle
are this guy name is brickle http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Broque_Artwork_-_Mario_%26_Luigi_Dream_Team.png
 * 15:39, 29 April 2013 (EDT)

Special Attacks
Mario and Luigi have slightly different special attacks, on the real world demo Mario has a red shell and skateboard and Luigi has a green shell and a propeller cap. Note that the propeller attack looks like the Mechanic block person's hat

Cactus Monster
Just added the cactus enemy to the enemy list, but I'm not to familiar with editing wiki pages I'm afraid so I didn't know how to add a reference for it, but you can find said monster on the Japanese site.

http://oi39.tinypic.com/dq3ki0.jpg ~Chaoxys

First footage of boss battle against Bowser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yli68Q4C1q4

New Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnx2vQMFSXM

Lots of new info in this. New enemies, various items, ect. You can even see Sergeant Guy from BiS near the end, he's commanding a squad of goombas.

~Chaoxys

But the characters of the minute 2:12 are not Private Goomp, Corporal Paraplonk and Sergeant Guy? --Sonic98 (talk) 14:17, 28 June 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, you can see Private Goomp and Corporal Paraplonk there. Not easy to spot them the first time though, with all the Luigis everywhere. ~Whybee

Also, at the end of the Europe video, a Giant Luigi battle against a group of buildings are shown. Also, it is shown that Luigi can use different hammer attacks, as he uppercuts the monster into the air. Info from Dream.

I may also be worth mentioning that it looks like you can equip different kinds of hammers, so unlike other M&L games where you have the same hammer, or get a new one via plot, you will have many to choose from this time and will be able to switch around whenever you want. ~Chaoxys

Also, it appears that the boots and hammers that you equip can give you different attacks in both the real and dream world, as seen when selecting a special attack. Info spewed by Dreamcha

Popple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5qKHRpnDn4

At the 12 second mark is that Popple running away from wiggler along with Mario and Luigi


 * Yeah that's Popple alright, good to see him back. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * He just appears here and there in the game trying to steal stuff, also in Kylie's house a photo of a Shroob could be seen

Returning Characters?
Alot of characters from the previous installments are returning. But does anyone know if there met inside Luigis Dreams?

Now that I think about it, Mario, D Luigi, and Dreambert, and the rescued Pi'llow are the only characters(not including enemies) in the Dream World. And I'm not sure if the thing that activated Drilldigger is an annoyed Pi'llow or something else

Final Boss Leaked? (SPOILERS)
Here is what seems to be the battle against Antasma. I found it in a GameFAQs thread; the topic creator said it was from a video that was made private later. Also (not as good a picture) there is a shot of what looks like a Giant Bowser phase of the battle.-- 22:49, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
 * I'm that guy. I'm not sure it should be added. I mean, we already knew Giant Bowser was in, and Antasma was obviously going to be fought in the game. I really wish I could have taken a snapshot of the actual final boss, but sadly I didn't, so there isn't really anything new to add. Maybe low-quality pictures taken from a source that is now gone aren't taken as a real source either. Koopalmier (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
 * Well, I added the Antasma battle screenshot, since there really isn't a screenshot of a battle against him yet. -- 22:58, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
 * Just chucking this out here, but whats to say this isn't the first battle? Just saying. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * Could be. -- 12:09, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Anyone considering superstar saga, cackletta was, like, the 8th boss, maybe this is similar.

Antasma
Now that I think about it, what if those small bats resembling his head isn't Antasma. We never seen him transform into a bat. And since he's a bat-king he could have been the ruler of the those bats.


 * Just wait till the games out, then we'll know, but i doubt it. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

What also bothers me was that Nintendomination had a 160 minutes video but he deleted it. Anyway in case you haven't known, he also uploaded a boss encounter where you fight Antasma in smokey form with peach. But he made dark clones of Mario. Also in the Japanese trailer there are more Luiginary Works; A moon which changes gravity when Starlow turns around a floatie that Luigi is sleeping on, and also a screw that rises a platform which is the same control as the pinwheel

More little things
I noticed a few things in a trailer that I added: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=asxoWiRJTMg Mainly the Drill and gravity Luiginary Works (I didn't know how to add a picture so if anyone else can do so, I'd appreciate it), and I also added Piranha Plants to the enemy list (You can see them in the gravity part of the trailer). ~Chaoxys

What the heck?
Someone want to fix the bottom of the page so it's not blatantly showing final boss images? Jeeze, I came in here looking for a link to an older video and that gets tossed in my face.

RE: 160 Minute Video
@137.147.10.248 Is this the video you are looking for?

--Newzzz
 * It's useless to me now, I already have the game.

Australian title?
So I got an email from EB Games notifying that this game was just released and well...

The email says it's called Mario & Luigi: Dream Team without the "Bros."

The site here says it's called Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros..

But the image on the site goes back to just Mario & Luigi: Dream Team.

ozgameshop.com also calls it Mario & Luigi: Dream Team.

So... I'm seriously confused at this point.


 * I just photographed the actual Australian box art here. It looks like to me that the EB Games site has just edited the rating and placed a PG over the North American box.


 * 02:04, 13 July 2013 (EDT)


 * Ah, okay, thanks. Though I still don't understand why the email and ozgameshop still claim the title to not have "Bros." in it.

that doesnt make sense it should be Mario & Luigi: Dream Bros http://www.mariowiki.com/images/7/7c/ShyGuyRed-CSS2-MSS.png Shyman

"Antowser?"
It says on the article that the final boss is called Antowser, but the reference only gives me a tiny thumbnail of a large, powerful Bowser, but this doesn't confirm the official name of the boss. When was the name confirmed to be Antowser? -- 23:43, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Luiginary Work and others
I'm from Australia and I have gotten the game. There's another Luiginary Work where Luigi goes in a clock. Pulling his moustache to the right makes everything go fast, and pulling the moustache to the left makes everything go slow, and pressing the nose makes time back to normal. Anyway after going to the Dream Stone Bowser and Antasma had gotten it first and flies off, Dreambert finds out that the stand where the Dream Stone was is a Dreampoint, where he turns to his pillow form so Luigi can sleep on it. Mario goes into the Dream World to find the spirit of the Dream Stone (Which become Drilldigger) After that he tells them that the Dream Stone is at Mt .Pajamaja. So when the bros go back to Mushrise Park, a Shelltop says that tours for Mt. P will be at Wakeport.

I live in Europe and I've nearly completed the game so if you need any information just ask! Also one of the bosses is (SPOILER) BOWSER'S RIGHT HAND TRIO AKA PRIVATE GOOMP, CORPORAL PARAPLONK AND SERGEANT GUY AND THEY'RE ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOSSES EVER! They can revive each other so you have to take them out all at once and it's in the dream world so it's really manic and fun! They're the 6th boss out of the total 9 (Unless you count some of the smaller battles like dreamy mario and wiggler and popple) and there are 6 giant bosses! :) -Guest

Possible Fawful cameo
Mkay, I don't have the game yet, so someone who does have it can check this out I guess. From what I've been hearing, somewhere near the start of the game you can talk to some NPCs in a castle who will face you when you talk to them. From what I've been hearing, there is one NPC in a dressing room who won't face you, and seems to say something that is making people think it's Fawful. Again, I don't have the game so I don't know what he says and I can't check it myself, so if anyone wants to give it a try, be my guest as I'm rather curious. It doesn't seem to far fetched considering Alpha Dream has had him cameo in each game so far. ~Chaoxys

Well there was one Zeekeeper that says "I have excitement"

An eerily similar line and, from what I've heard, the fact that he doesn't turn around to show his face like the other NPCs. Idk, I think it's worth a mention in the Trivia if nothing else. ~Chaoxys


 * We can't prove this so it doesnt count, also Fawful, sadly, died in the previous installment. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

Applying the concept of permanent death to a character in a Mario game is just silly when you consider the other characters that should be dead. Either way I'm not saying he should be added into the character list, heck, I'm not even saying that it is Fawful, just that it's worth a mention in the trivia if nothing else. Considering how much Alpha Dream loves to use Fawful, I almost find it hard to believe that it isn't an inteded cameo, or at least a reference.

I think that this is more something that should be in the forum. 16:51, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

I don't see how. I'm saying that I believe that this should be added to the Trivia section. Since it is most likely a subtle little nod to Fawful. ~Chaoxys

I have to wonder how this line was translated in the other versions. The European release is the first one out this time around, so it occurs to me that maybe the other languages have something different in there that could help identify the character? And when the Japanese release comes out soon, you can further prove if it's Fawful if the NPC goes ""Fururururu" -- though I don't think I know anyone with a Japanese 3DS, but I would check if I could... LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:04, 15 July 2013 (EDT)


 * Look, i want to end this, if the character was in a bird costume it would be a reference, a clever little nod to the previous installments, if not and it looked like Fawful (Or a guy in a red cape) then it would be Fawful, otherwise it's a reference. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

I already said that it was most likely a reference/nod to Fawful, so I don't know what your point is. Like I said before, I was saying that it would most likely be worth a mention in the Trivia section since I doubt Alpha Dream didn't intend it. ~Chaoxys

Little help with 2nd Giant Boss Name?
Yeah, as the title states, iv played the game and am now adding stuff to the wiki, problem is this guy, the volcano boss, has no name. I have no clue how to name it's article page besides "Volcano"...... suggestions or help would be nice. - Cubeguy(talk)


 * Just use a conjectural name for now, until an official name is confirmed (such as through a future Prima guide or such).


 * 09:55, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

It's name is Mount Pajamajama as you can battle it again in the bonus ring. Also the third giant boss is Earthwake and the fourth is the Zeekeeper. -Guest

Red Grobot?
Anyone remember seeing this in the trailers? Is it part of the boss battle or is it a bonus battle thing-a-mob-jiggy? - Cubeguy(talk)


 * It might be a boss of the hardcore mode that's supposed to be in the game.
 * PrinceKoopaIV (talk) 12:01, 15 July 2013 (EDT)
 * Possible beta element.

It's Grobot X- the challenge mode version of Grobot found in the battle ring in Pi'illo castle. -Guest

It's true the Red Grobot is the Grobot X of the ring of Pillo'w Castle. --Sonic98 (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2013 (EDT)


 * Ok, so can someone add this stuff to the article, i have yet to find this in game and so cannot add it. Thank you. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)

Info
Got some nice info, I couldn't edit the main page so here was the next best place. Anyway all this info is 100% true and thought it would help update the wiki. The boss list consists of the boss's name and location. I'm going to clear the final boss up to (obvious spoilers). You fight bowser and antasma seperate and with saves/pauses inbetween. The final boss is dreamy bowser and has nothing to do with antasma, only the dream stone. I apologize for the lengthy boss list, i didn't want it jumbled up. - Ultrapie95 16 July 2013

Bros. Attacks

Mario

3D Red Shell - 4 SP/ Bye-Bye Cannon - 7 SP/ Bomb Derby - 9 SP/ Jet-Board Bash - 12 SP/ Zee Egg - 15 SP

Luigi

3D Green Shell - 4 SP/ Fire Flower - 5 SP/ Dropchopper - 7 SP/ Slingsniper - 9 SP/ Star Rocket - 12 SP

-Luiginary Attacks

Luiginary Ball - 6 SP/ Luiginary Stack - 10 SP/ Luiginary Hammer - 10 SP/ Luiginary Flame - 14 SP/ Luiginary Wall - 14 SP/ Luiginary Typhoon - 16 SP

RANKS

Mushroom - default/ Shell - level 8/ Flower - level 16/ Star - level 26/ Rainbow - level 40

BOSS LIST (in order)

1) Smouldergeist - Pi'illo Castle

2) Mario clones - Dreamy Pi'llo Castle

3) Grobot - Mushire Park

4) Bowser + Antasma - Dreamy Mushire Park

5) Torkscrew - Dozing Sands

6) Robo-Drilldigger - Dreamy Dozing Sands - *****************giant battle #1

7-10) Beef Cloud/Heavy Zest/Sorrow Fist/Thunder Sass - Dreamy Wakeport

11) Big Massif - Dreamy Wakeport

12) Mammoshka - Mt. Pajamaja

13) Mt. Pajamaja - Dreamy Mt. Pajamaja - *****************giant battle #2

14) Private Goomp+Corporal Paraplink+Sergeant Guy (Elite Trio) - Dreamy Driftwood Shore

15) Fly Guy R Thieves (enemies with boss music) - Near Pi'illo Blimport

16) Wiggler + Popple - Wakeport

17) Earthwake - Dreamy Wakeport - *********giant battle #3

18) Pi'illodium - Somnom Woods

19) Zeekeeper - Dreamy Somnom Woods - ********giant battle #4

20) Kamek (3 seperate battles) - Dreamy Neo Castle

21) Bowser - Dreamy Neo Castle - *************giant battle #5

22) Antasma - Dreamy Neo Castle

23) Dreamy Bowser - Neo Castle Rooftop

BATTLE RING

- Normal Battles 1) Grobot X

2) Bowser X & Antasma X

3) TorkScrew X

4) Big Massif X

5) Mammoshka X

6) Elite Trio X

7) Pi'illodium X

8) Antasma X

9) All other bosses + Bowser Jr.! (no joke!)

- Giant Battles 1) Robo-Drilldigger X

2) Mount Pajamaja X

3) Earthwake X

4) Zeekeeper X

5) Bowser X

6) ???? (almost got it)

Boss List Updated
I added the rest of the bosses I know about from the Battle Ring listing for them. If you need a source, here's a picture of one of them (the Pi'illodium boss):

http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Boss120percent.jpg

I'll probably add Bowser Jr and the mysterious last giant battle boss when I get evidece for them. So soon for Bowser Jr (if true), and whenever a video is released of the giant battle one.

User:Cheat-master30