MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Rename Nimbus Person to (Discuss) Deadline: September 3, 2013, 23:59 GMT Passed
 * Create a page for (Discuss) Deadline: September 12, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Split Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U into and  (Discuss) Deadline: September 14, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Rename Category:Pigs to (Discuss) Deadline: September 16, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Rename Category:Felines to (Discuss) Deadline: September 16th, 2013 23:59 GMT
 * Rename Category:Canines to (Discuss) Deadline: September 16, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Rename Princess Game & Watch to (Discuss) Deadline: September 17, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment

No APNG Files
My proposal is simple, getting rid of APNG files (animated PNG files) and replace them with GIF files.

Reasons:
 * The APNG does not show on all browsers (at least without a specific plugin).
 * The APNG editing is harder and request a special program to edit.
 * The APNGs takes more time loading than GIFs
 * Thumbnails of APNGs are not animated.
 * Replacing them with GIFs is easy, and won't loss quality.

Stuff that will get changed/deleted by the passing of this proposal: Proposer: Deadline: September 6, 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal
 * 2) Per proposal
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Well if it doesn't work for all browsers... obviously yeah.
 * 5) Per proposal.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Until we get the technology available to make non-indexed animated pictures without some sort of special plugin or program, I vote per proposal.
 * 8) Most of the time, they're unnecessary because the different colors required to make it an animated GIF is usually more than enough to make a good, animated sprite. I don't even know why we have these in the first place when a good old-fashioned GIF image would do.
 * 9) Per voter number 8 (LGM)
 * 10) - Per all.
 * 11) - Per all.
 * 12) Per all

Oppose

 * 1) I don't see anything wrong with them, i think they are helpful sometimes.

Comments
@Randombob-omb4761 Like what?

The Template Shuffle
Last year I drafted the colour-coding system for the templates, and now that we've had time to see it in action, I have some revisions, which can be seen in this chart here. Red shows which templates are changing, and I have a list of all the specific changes and the reasons why below the chart, but I'll try to summarize it here:


 * 1) Make spinoffs yellow, sports light green, and Wario purple. Right now, the major character pages have massive blocks of purple and aqua with a few reds, blues and teals, making it look more like a bowl of Skittles than a Mario-themed navigation nexus. I blame myself for somehow forgetting that spinoffs are so numerous, but making them yellow (and the sports green) will make the template blocks a lot more Marioish in colour, plus it'll brighten them up. And purple still works for Wario, so no problem on that end of the swap.
 * 2) Combine SSB with the crossovers. With split up into the separate games, the unique colouration's not necessary anymore, and the suitably similar aqua colour's freed up by the sports recolour, so it works out great.
 * 3) Simplify the Alternate Media and G&W stuff. In hindsight, there's no need to grandfather in the old G&W design: better to just update the template and give it the regular console colours. Similarly, differentiating between the two umbrella media types is unnecessary, and the darker of the two shades is too similar to the Mario games to effectively stand apart anyway.
 * 4) Combine SML with the overall Mario series. Again, this was an unnecessary split, although letting it keep its subseries designation is a good idea, and the old, orange Alt Media header colour fits the bill.

The new chart also has a couple extra subheader colours and a couple tweaked background colours, but that's all pretty minor. What isn't minor is the other half of the proposal, which is the establishment of a colour scheme for all the ex-subpage templates. Quick drafts can be seen here (or just scroll up from the colour chart): as you can see, I'm using the fancy SMB sprite setup that was originally made for the SMB template, and which was too cool to just throw away when the colour-coding system was brought in. I meant to make the subpage template use this design all along, but ran out of time for the first draft of MW:NAV, and only got back around to it now. Anyway, the templates all have the same header and background colours, but I gave different templates different banner colours to jazz things up (all of the colours are based on the backgrounds of SMB: the sky blue default, the underground/castle black, and the underwater blue, plus the one glitchy red background).

I really think these colour changes are an improvement over the first draft, and I think the subpages will look good with these template designs. And I hope you guys agree!

Proposer: Deadline: September 9, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - Per me. Plus, since the backgrounds are all preset in MediaWiki:Common.css, it'll make the transition easier, and either way, I'll be happy to make all the colour changes myself: I love this kinda template work!
 * 2) - I fully agree. The Super Mario Bros theme is unique and fitting, and it sets us apart from other wikis that don't have cool nav template designs. The color palette is well thought out and makes perfect sense. Awesome work, Per Walkazo.
 * 3) – Per all.
 * 4) - I agree with the proposal (a.k.a Per proposal) I love the new ex-subpage design.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) – Well thought out! Per all. (The Mario Party and ex subpage ones are one is a bit too flashy and distracting and the colors of the ex subpage don't combine, but it's just my opinion. But I agree with everything else.)
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per the above... again...

Comments
What if we need a sub-header, and we didn't find a color in this table? as the smallest example: Dr. Mario template
 * Then try making one up yourself (save the template and everything)and ask me or another admin to approve it and add it to the chart. Just like with footer colours (which is explained in the last paragraph of this section of MW:NAV). Worst-case scenario is that we might use a slightly different colour instead, but either way, the subheader will get made. -

While going trough some templates, I found, I think it should be merged with game templates, but what about & ?
 * That question's rather tangential to the goals of this proposal... But yeah, Morphs should be merged with the YI/YIDS templates. But as I keep saying on the forums, the Galaxy templates are fine the way they are, with their unique names and designs and whatnot, and I still think we should leave them be. -


 * As you may see, Ultra Koopa changed the color to Mario series' color. Is this design what you meant with 'unique designs'?
 * I meant the old designs (which I've since restored, since there should be discussion before stripping them of their unique and perfectly functional design - which was purposefully left unchanged when the original colour-coding proposal took effect last year). -

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.