User talk:Stooben Rooben



RE: 'Crat
Wow. My thanks to you and to "the staff." So what are my new responsibilities? --

Patroller Rank

 * Well this sure was surprising when I got word of this from you and Super-Yoshi. Just one question though.  Does a Patroller get any new features or something?  08:44, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Image Errand

 * I was hoping that you can do me a favor. I was trying to upload an image onto the Mario Wiki, but due to the issue of not being able to save new edits, the image got corrupted. I was able to upload the image successfully after this incident was taken care of, but the file history section contains a lot of past uploads that I've done.  All of them are pretty much corrupted, and I was hoping that you can delete the archived image revisions for me.  After all, only Sysops can delete image revisions. Here's the image that I was hoping that you would go to and delete ALL the past uploads for that file name. [[Image:2009-TournamentJanuary2.jpg|frame|left|2009-TournamentJanuary2.jpg]]  18:48, 13 January 2009 (EST)


 * Well at least you tried since Sysops and above are the only ones who can delete past image revisions. And since I'm only a Patroller, I don't have those privileges to be deleting image revisions yet.  09:07, 15 January 2009 (EST)

Re: Err...
Nope, you didn't respond to my last comment. But that's okay: I figured you were too busy being a Bureaucrat of two Wikis and dealing with your RL situation (I have to deal with less than half of what you've got on your plate and I'm already swamped). Speaking of bureaucracy, can you send me the password to the 'Crat Board on the Userpedia forums, please? I didn't ask when you first changed my ranking because I figured I wasn't a real 'crat since Referata was inactive, but now that we're actually using it to a small extent, I have some valid 'crat concerns I'd like to talk to you guys about. - 17:45, 12 January 2009 (EST)
 * Yeah, I try to get on at least once a day too; I was sick the other week and took a couple days off, and I missed SO much! :o How have I been? Well, I applied to university, which is exciting; and I saved one of my lizards from drowning today! He had fallen into his water bowl, and though he managed to get his face out of the water, he was really cold, and I shudder to think what would have happened if I had decided to NOT go downstairs just then and do my math homework. Yep, calculus now officially saves lives XD - 22:47, 15 January 2009 (EST)
 * That's because the (extended) Super Mario Wiki is my life. I've tried having a Real Life life, but it stank; I still get together with friends and whatnot, but the social scene isn't my scene - I'd rather edit the MWiki. School's the reason I don't really post on the UP Forums - I just have time to check on the Sysop (and Crat) boards these days. I'm much better, though my nose is still runny <_< Yep, and now my dad's switched his water bowl, so he can't almost drown again :D We just started Calculus this week, so it's pretty easy at the moment; but I've got an English exam on Monday to keep me on my toes. - 03:05, 17 January 2009 (EST)

A Review
Hello Stoob, recently I'm on a project for rewiting the entire Mario Kart Double Dash's article, and as a way to improve my english language learning too :) I need a review if the article is getting better than it's previous content (which was very poor certainly XP). Could you please see it and tell me how do you think?


 * Thanks Stoob for the review and thanks for telling me I'm doing a well job in my english improvement :] The article is almost complete, and the nomination for a next featured article as this is close :D

Well, Dom has stopped talking to me (>;~;)>
I R LONELY. LET'S START A LONG CONVERSATION AND REPLY ON EACH OTHERS' TALK PAGES, LIKE, EVERY DAY.

I'LL START.

BLAH.

YOUR TURN. □R.O.B. 128□ 11:49, 14 January 2009 (EST)

^ I Wouldn't Place Money on That... ^
Wow, you actually look at my Imidge of da Week? Awesome. This week's is pretty funny, I think.

Yep, the new Wario Land is very good. Definitely worth buying... if you have the money for it and are not saving up for something more awesome. (eg. DSi, or that new Mario and Luigi game...) So far I have done 100% of the levels, got 95% of the treasures, and done 85% of the Missions. I must 100% PWN this game to be satisfied.

Hey, I know that GBC game. I had the same game, but on GBA (never had a GBC). The GBA version sucked, it was all half-platformer, 5% RPG, 45% retarded. The GBC version was much better. Sadly, most game adaptations of movies (in this case, movies based on books) ... are crap. Because they make them as cash-ins (on every platform for that reason), not as good games to satisfy us gamers. I probably won't ever get Wi-Fi ;_;

That's... well, I found that a bit sad. You're very lucky to be the only one to get a present. And I feel guilty about worrying that I didn't get as much stuff this last year as previous Christmases, after hearing that your family got hardly anything. I'm glad it was relaxing for you. Relaxation is something I almost never experience.

The crazy fact book had a very similar layout to the Guinness Book of World Records. It's similar, but much more awesome.

Woot! My sig is finally 100% law-abiding. Trial and error, it seems (remember I once had a GIF...).

Oh, and I'm concerned about you being up so late on the Wiki. If your only time to get on here is that late, I admire your dedication to this place. But I hope your life doesn't stay so difficult that your only time for coming here is at a ridiculous time ;_;

Regarding R.O.B. 128
I have a big problem with some of R.O.B. 128's recent activity, specifically soliciting a few of the apparently female members of the wiki for their photographs (check out his recent contribs). This could be considered a form of sexual harrasment, and I think we need to warn him that such behavior is unacceptable. But I wanted to get your opinion on the whole issue before doing anything. --

No "Holy Cr--" Header!? Disappointing.
So, maybe we have truly exhausted that long-running joke...

Yeah, funny signs are FTW. For example, the Sofa King sign... if you know about that one. (Google it)

Yeah, Wario is a weirdo but his games are more challenging than Mario's platformers, so that's pretty good.

Hey, I had PoA on GBA as well! That was a pretty good game. I totally spammed Wingardium Leviosa against those slug things, lol.

You know my Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Well, that's a bad version of relaxation. Today and yesterday while doing some very boing Pokemon training (keep fighting the same foe hundreds of times for EXP), I suddenly got... The Feeling. That's when I put the DS down and almost fall asleep for a while. Also, living in Australia... the heat is exhausting. On Tuesday it was 41 degrees Celsius, with a minimum of 27 at night. Ever get that hot where you are? And my house has no air-conditioning...

Scot-free? O-o ... I'm missing something.

Well, I had insomnia from a very young age up until 12. It was cured over a few months by nightly listening to a hypnosis CD which uses "theta rhythm" in the background. I recommend hypnosis if you want to cure it... as I remember how much insomnia sucks.

Well, I don't know how you manage to stay awake in the day if you're up half the night, but it's up to you...

PM
Hey Stooben. I read your PM on the forums and tried to reply, but for some reason it didn't work. Whenever I hit the Preview button, there was no preview of my text. And my message wasn't sent either, when I hit the Send button. Am I too dumb to use a simple forum? :) Anyway, nothing important I wanted to say, just that I've been a member of the forums since I became a sysop, although I've never posted any message there... ;) 06:29, 15 January 2009 (EST) (BTW, I really like the design of your user talk page. I mean the font and colors and stuff...)

cool, cool mountain
Hey Stooben. Long time no see. I kinda need your opinion on an article. With all the changes from SM64 and Sm64DS, some of the same star missions have a few differences. Now should that be mentioned under the origional level heading, Under the DS heading or in a trivia like section (like changes in the DS)? thanks 08:41, 15 January 2009 (EST)

RE: Hooktail Castle
Yeah, I still feel like there is a lot to be said. Again, I feel like I am not learning anything about the castle. Here are some more specific recommendations:

Here's how I would order the article:

Intro first, of course. =P

Description section: this section would detail the physical features of the castle itself, including elements on the inside, kinda starting from the entrance. Rely on Goombella's tattles on the bottom of the page for inspiration; don't write like she does of course, but she does mention the castle's notable features. So what is the castle like? Well there is an exterior wall, then a moat and a drawbridge before actually reaching the castle, right? Goombella also says there is a garden, so maybe mention that as well. There are also a few dungeons, so mention that and the items in the dungeon (so move that info out of History into the Description section). She also mentions a great hall filled with many traps - briefly mention these traps (as they are likely covered in the walkthrough). There is also a treasure room - mention what is in the treasure room. Lastly mention Hooktail's lair at top of the final tower.

History section: this would explain the history of the castle, and does not need to be that long. Try to remove the speculation and just focus on what the game says, so people can decide for themselves (basically, get rid of that "it is unknown" stuff). Check out the Grifty article for some of the early history. There needs to be some backstory to the castle itslef, so the beginning would be something like this (feel free to adapt it if you want to; it's not very good but has a lot of the basics): "A thousand years before the events of PM:TTYD, the Shadow Queen emerged from the "dark beyond" and began a campaign of conquest across the world. WIth her armies, the Shadow Queen took over many lands and stole many valuable treasures from these countries, which she stored in her Palace of Shadow.  The Shadow Queen created the Crystal Stars to contain the "essence of the heavens" in order to increase her already infathomable power.  One Crystal Star was placed in each country to allow the Shadow Queen to exert her influence over the world.  Hooktail Castle was built to hold one of these Crystal Stars, increasing the Shadow Queen's control over the Petal Meadows region.

Okay the next part gets tricky. Basically we need to describe how the Black Chest ended up in Hooktail Castle, as the chest is one of the heroes, I'm just not sure which one. Then we also need to describe how the Diamond Star ended up in the castle, if there is anything about that (did it simply end up in Hooktail's belly? - is there anything about that anywhere).

But after all that is covered, you can say something like: "Hooktail, one of the Shadow Queen's three dragon pets, eventually came to reside in the castle, possibly during the Shadow Queen's reign. She would use this castle as a base of operations for terrorizing the people of Petal Meadows and Petalburg for many years, perhaps even centruies.  A few Petalburgers, inculding Koopley, have attempted to brave the castle and challenege Hooktail in order to stop her reign of terror. However, none have ever returned to Petalburg, presumably ending up as the Dull Bones strewn across the castle.  That is, until Mario of the Mushroom Kingdom traveled to Petalburg in search of the Crystal Star in the region.  He teamed up with Koopley's son Koops to brave the castle and challenge Hooktail in combat." This would leave off right before the next section, Walkthrough.

So essentially, the History section should have three paragraphs: Shadow Queen and the creation of the castle, the end of her reign and the scattering of the Crystal Stars (i.e. how did the Black Chest and Diamond Star get in Hooktail Castle), followed by Hooktail's reign of terror over the Petal Meadows region. --

And the Description section really only needs to be like one solid paragraph. Some of the sentences could essentially be: Here's a notable room, and here's the notable stuff in it. But do what you gotta do. --

Yeah...so in total, I am looking for four good paragraphs, three in history, one in description, and that should be enough for me to remove my oppose vote. =) --

Mario3v!!!
!Stooben! Block Dino (NOW TAKE HIM OUT OFF THE WIKI NOW) DO SOMETHING! --Mario3v 00:34, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Well I hate users who do that to think there can be more users who would do that I HATE WHEN THEY DO THAT I AM SO MAD! --Mario3v 00:34, 17 January 2009 (EST)

hey
you remember that one day when all the users couldn't edit? Well that day I was like 20 edits away from making 100 edits in a day, again, and then we couldn't edit and I was all "NOOO!" :(
 * Oh, man, that sucks. D: Well, 80 is still freakin' awesome. :D 00:32, 17 January 2009 (EST)
 * That's true. Anyway, maybe I can on Monday, since I don't have school. The only problem is that I have to do a bunch of reasearch on Benedict Arnold for my English class. :/
 * Do what I do: Edit and do homework at the same time. XD 00:35, 17 January 2009 (EST)
 * I have 3 days. I'm sure it'll get done sometime. XD The only thing is I have to write a paper on it, and I don't know if I have to have paper done by Tuesday. :/
 * Well, let's just hope you have lots of time to edit. :D 00:45, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Making Tables (no Wood needed)
I'd just like to know if you approve of my addition to the Help:Table article. I decided to add that because Ralphfan told me it didn't help him at all.

.I don't expect you to respond to my previous message until you're ready ;)

Heh, a mobile Sysop... awesome. And I've seen how much you're changing the Grubba article... impressive. Maybe I'll look at some other Help articles and see if they need improvement (but most of them are protected, I imagine...)

Holy dude! I looked at the History of the Grubba page and it was practically dedicated to you. Excellent work. And your edits inspired me to edit some related articles.

Crikey - you type fast :O. Lol, awesome sauce. So, what image are you trying to find? If you tell me, I'll try and help in the search.

I briefly glanced at several other Help articles, but I couldn't see anything that particularly needed fixing. Maybe I should save them to my computer and read them closely...

You know how it's nearly my birthday? Well, because of a certain event that happened today, I'm now not sure whether I will or won't be getting Wi-Fi (I should have eavesdropped on my parents, I used to do that a lot...)

It's late here (but presumably much later where you are), so I must be off, like a... *insert Dimentio-style simile*.

Swearing
Not trying to be a tattletale, but User:Randoman123456789 has the "s-word" on his page. Just tryin' to protect the little kids.

-Ralphfan

YAY
i just sent meta galactic the code for his old user page using the view scource button. Copy and paste is handy. Anyhow the fake fake news is just on my userpage.

Ok. I still need a interview and a travel guide (when i tried to save them they said internet explorer cant display the webpage and i lost em) Have u seen it?

no, i mean when i hit save page it did that and when i hit back the new stuff was all gone. has u seen the fake fake news the link is on my user page.

Mario3v
Hey Stooben do you really like editing or you just do it just asking k?

Are you always up this late?

So you dont like staying up this late?

Are you happy about moving or not?

Thats cool, oh and about the sleeping dilemma have you ever tried sleeping pills?

Are you sure moving will not make it worse?

Are you not tiered BTW right now?

Really not even 10% tiered?

Do you know Wayoshi just asking k and if so how well do you know and I think you do know him?

Do you know Jaffffey and/or Super-Yoshi?

How about Zafum and/or SliverYoshi95 as well as Guy Tim and/or Dry Paratroopa or Yoshi Boo 118 do you know them?

Oh because they are my wiki friends, Zafum likes UFOs and Thunder, SliverYoshi95 likes well you should know its yoshis, Guy Tim likes shy guys and trys to be funny, Yoshi Boo 118 likes yoshis and boos, Dry Paratoopa likes Dry Bones,Luigi and a few more things, and thats how I know them I know a few more things about them but to me this is the most important to about them k.

Oh Stooben do you know who is lucas64bat?

Are you any more tiered yet, I dont like being up this late but yet...I do hmm?

You should really try to sleep more earlier try k I know its hard but keep trying k Stooben.

Do you know RAP?

Do you know any other wikis?

Hey Stooben is today the final day of the Election I think it is on the 18?

Hey Stooben tu puedas avalar en español si o no?

Do you wish you know how to speck spanish and do you only know how to speck english also are you not tired yet I am but I look over the wiki to make sure to welcome new users in till 3:00am I know thats bad oh well you gota do whats you gota do?

Well where I am at its 11:00 and you say where your at its 12:00 right are you sure?

Stooben how many edits did it take for a user to become a sysop just asking?

Whats the difference between main edits and just edits?

Ok now whats your favorite game and are you any more tired, no you should be tired?

Me to its really late but I stay up till 3:00, and your sleeping dilemma this has been going on for how long and trout the day do you not get tired for sleeping at 3:00 or more or less I know I do but you?

I know but its just I feel like I need to be on the wiki, 12/28/09 the day I logged on as 2v2v2 then 3v3v3 and now Mario3v but before I was never like this I can sleep in till 3:00 I hate that but... I still feel like I must be on the wiki lol this sounds crazy but it almost like the wiki is calling me yup just as I said its almost like the wiki is calling me lol right but its true?

Stooben your still up wow, I feel like im going to ko any time soon because im so tired but im not at least in till 3:00 k.

I know Stooben....but I just cant turn in intill 3:00 I do not know what the wiki has I just need to be in it after that I could ko k its the wiki not me.

Stooben did you win the election, am sure you did?

Hi Stooben how are you?

Im okay too thanks.

So Stooben have you been editing a lot lately just asking k?

It going to be sad with your activity decreasing but at least you can rest from the wiki right and maybe sleep better?

Demotion
May I please be demoted now since I ritiring soon and other stuff. :P

Fake News
Can you please bring back "Fake News" to The 'Shroom?

-Ralphfan

Since you are still director of fake news i'm looking into the obituaries article (if available still) -Retro

I Honestly Cannot Think of a Header...
Just a quick thing:

I was examining the list of Help pages again to find others needing improvement, and noticed that the link titled "What you shouldn't do in an article" links to the BJAODN. To me, that seems kinda weird and not helpful. IMO, the BJAODN is not at all an educational system to show what not to do (it's more likely to encourage people to create nonsense...), as I was expecting the link to be to a Help article, not a page of comedy.

So I ask you this: Should I start an actual Help page with actual info about what not to in an article. I'll only be able to start it, as I'm not good at writing from scratch, I prefer editing existing stuff.

It seems your insomnia is affecting you again... trust me, I know how much it sucks.

(BTW, you have as much time as you need to reply to the above message)

OK, but... wouldn't be better to just start with the Help page, so then other Users who are better at writing from scratch can expand and make it good? Otherwise, if I have it as a subpage of mine, it's only for my own editing, which means it will kind of suck (I suck at writing articles).

Oh, and this is a bit random (forgot to write it above), but - I'm having my only 2 friends around for my birthday. I never really have "parties", I just have sleepovers where we play games the whole time. Do you have many festivities on your birthdays?

userbox?
hey, if u have a userbox tower, here.

no prob. btw, look here and tell me if i write like a strategy guide. :)

hello?

i know ur on...

Know me?
I was just wondering... have you heard of me? Also, are there any open spots on The 'Shroom? I am trying tpo find a job opportunity on it so I can sign up.

gottogo.

Potential troll!
User:Megazario made a mp9 page w/out scources (upcoming game, not officially announced) and said on the mlrpg3 talk page that bowser jr. was in it, no scource there either.

....... WTF!???????
WTF did my whole Proposal get removed? It took me a long time to write all that worthless crap :(. I created the Proposal because, after asking RAP what I should do (because I didn't want to bother you again, after the previous message), but he said he was busy and so ignored it. Then I did all that for nothing.

I hate this Proposal system. My previous one failed, and now this one barely even lived to the age of 1 second. And there is no message on my talk page informing me why it was deleted. Really helpful.

I know you didn't remove it, I'm just telling you because you're the only sympathetic and understanding user here...

I was planning to take some screenshots of the treasures, but now I've screwed that idea.

Congratulations!!!
I cant access the forums so i am writing here. First of all, Congratulations for winning the election! I'd love to be the sub-director, just tell me what to do and by when i need to do it.

WikiBirthday
Where do I find when I joined the wiki?

-Ralphfan

RE: Long time, no chat!
Hey, Stooben! Great to hear from you again! Everything's been going pretty smoothly, but since I just started classes, I'm sure that things are start to get crazy soon!! How is everything with you? Let me check out that post and I'll respond on the forum! Thanks - you've been doing a really good job editing, too, as always. I'm really excited about the Grubba article - thanks to you finding out all those details it's going to be a good article, I think. 23:37, 20 January 2009 (EST)
 * Aw, man... I'm sorry! Whatever you have to do - we'll understand and no way will I let anyone demote you due to inactivity.  I've looked at every section except the personality section and I think things are looking very good.  Once again, thanks for taking the time to create such a great backbone for the article!!  See you soon!  23:54, 20 January 2009 (EST)
 * Thanks, you're a good friend, too! You're a good bureaucrat, though, remember that!  I'm not just pulling a favor or anything. :P lol at Son of Suns... I suppose I'll have to find him a new image to make him happy.  15:16, 21 January 2009 (EST)
 * My mistake was that I took Son of Sun's oppose personally rather than based on our mutual concern for the well being of the Wiki. Granted, I still hold that the images were of high enough quality and don't quite agree that someone who played a relatively small role in the article (compared to you and I) should be allowed to hold it back from being featured over images, but what I should have realized from the get-go is that the images only would become an issue when the other issues he mentioned were dealt with.  Speaking of, we do need to look in at image resolution and how it relates to fair use... I'm pretty sure some of our images are waaaay to big to be completely legal (not saying that blurry little images are all that we can include, of course). :)  Anyway, hopefully this hatchet can be torched, buried, and then nuked, and hopefully we won't see a precedent about images and FAs get set over this.  Thanks for the compliment, Stooben, if it weren't for people like you voicing that you like the diplomatic side of me, I wouldn't have backed down.  I was packed for bear!! :3

I'm gonna curb this convo for a lil bit. Haha. Yes Stumpers, it's nothing personal. That's why I have no hard feelings. Now, the templates on most of our images, including screenshots, says "web-resolution" screenshots, as opposed to "low-resolution." Web-resolution would imply any resolution that can be displayed on the web, which isn't perfect. So any image that can be displayed on the web should be fair game, especially because using such images "does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material," regardless of the resolution. In fact, it would be fair to say that a better wiki (complete with images) indeed boosts the profits of the copyright holder (Nintendo), as I know I have purchased games in order to work on the wiki. --

Mario Circuit
Just as MKDD needed a hand to add more info to the article, I'm on a mission to expand some racecourses' articles, because they remained abandoned for long time (to submit more info, of course). Ma' first action is to contribute intensively the Mario Circuit article, and looks very good nao, containing detailed info about every course's characteristics and layouts. I hope you liek it :D A problem I having now is to add more info about Itadaki street DS and MK: Super Circuit. They show little info, even gettin to some websites that talk about them don't deal so much information :[


 * OK, thanks for that, dude! ;]

ghey
okies □R.O.B. 128□ 11:37, 21 January 2009 (EST)

Re: Congratulations
Of course I can, and don't worry its not a load, I have plenty of free time

PS: Will all of the actual writers continue writing?

My Page (Ralphfan (el t0rtuga))
I saw that u were on my page. See "The "Real" Fake News"?

-Ralphfan (el t0rtuga)

Pipeproject
Hey Stooben Rooben if you want join the Planet Discriptions Pipeproject click here.

Hey Stooben I am not trying to be nosey but what did Wayoshi do in the past that made you demote him just asking k I think something about a willy on wheels thing not sure?

Okay.

Hey Stooben I have been noticing that in the past 2 days you have not been logged on as much why?

Hi Stooben how are you doing, so tomorrow you move right its sad that you will not be logged on to much but at least you can get some rest from the wiki right and maybe sleep better right.

I am fine but, I am trying to make 6000 edits also I watch over the wiki at night, to you know to undo any bad things or bad edits, but are you getting any more rest at night.

Yeah I just think the wiki is great, I mean I was never the same when I found the wiki there has been good times and bad times too but I help new users just like some of the sysops and a bureaucrat has helped me you know when I was new to the wiki it was difficult to think of what to put on my user page and all, of all the wikis I have been this one is the only one I like the other wikis which is 3 in total with this one 1 I have quit because I did not like it, the 2 wiki is Userpedia I really dont go there to much, in Userpedia I am known as 2v2v2 my old username here and there 10%, and the 3 wiki which is this one I am 90% in this wiki but in March its going to go down to 50% to 60%. Oh and thats good that you sleep more k really k.

SHroom
Ok, should i ask them now if they are still writing for the shroom?

somewun needs ur help
This. 17:32, 4 December 2008 Stooben Rooben (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:Birdoshi/Favorite Videos" (Per user's request. Can be restored at any time. Goodbye, Birdoshi.) 17:32, 4 December 2008 Stooben Rooben (Talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:Birdoshi/Favorite Videos" (Per user's request. Can be restored at any time.) 17:21, 4 December 2008 Stooben Rooben (Talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:Birdoshi/Archive 2" (Per user's request. Can be restored at any time.) 17:20, 4 December 2008 Stooben Rooben (Talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:Birdoshi/Archive 1" (Per user's request. Can be restored at any time.) In the deletion log. Birdoshi is back. Restore it. how do i know? she replied on my talk page(I figured out a new way to restore pages. It involves history, copy, and paste.)

Yoshi's Island
YOSHI! Oh, sorry about that. Anyways, I got the original version now and it's great! I used to spend most of my time on that playing that game. It's really cool. It's also proving to be quite easy. To get perfect 100 I mean. Just to let you know... Also do you have either Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time or Luigi's Mansion? Thanks. Oh, and here are some random questions, How do you archive pages, and what type of programming language do you know? Can you make me a sprite? And are you one of my friends? O.K. the last one was weird, but I'd like to put your name on my usepage. If that's O.K. with you. Thanks!

Better Late Than Never
You're one of only 3 Users who mentioned my birthday... so you get +100 Awesome Points :O.

I read your thing under Blitzwing's response... and my response is:

Well, see what I wrote on his talk page about the reason I made a Proposal rather than just doing the stuff.

Oh, and I definitely don't want to learn to drive, for many reasons.