MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. Signing with the signature code (~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 12) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 13) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 14) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 15) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 16) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Add a character battle
Recently, I had nothing to do, so I decided to stop by in Zeldawikia and I discovered an awesome community article called the Temple of Courage. In this article, two Zelda characters were put to "fight". People, including those who are not users, voted for their favorite, and the one with the most votes won (obviously :P). Naturally, I didn't lose time and created and account to vote for my favorite participant.

As I already told you, I liked that, so, I was wondering if we, here in the Mariowiki, could *ehem ehem* create an article like this.

I gave you the link so that you can visit it in Zeldapedia.

So...........what do you think? Should we create our on Mario character battle or not? Any special questions in my talk.

Proposer: Deadline: April 29, 2009, 17:00

Support

 * 1) I really want to have this in the wiki.

Oppose

 * 1) - Super Mario Wiki articles are for the cold, hard facts only; save this sort of thing for a Poll.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo. Actually, there was a Character Battle in the Shroom, but it was ignored.
 * Per Walkazo.
 * 1) -- Per Walkazo.
 * 2) -- Yeah per everybody
 * 3) - Per Walkazo. This seems more of a forum-related thing.
 * 4) Per Walkazo and all.

Comments
Perhaps this idea could be incorporated into the 'Shroom?
 * That idea was in the 'Shroom. --Blitzwing 19:39, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Actually, Walkazo has a decent idea there. A bracket of sorts could be placed on the forums while the actual voting could be held via the Poll, kind of like the GFAQs Character Battles. Might be a fun little time waster. --

New User Ranking
I am proposing that a new ranking should be added added (the current rankings are Patroller, Sysop, and Bureaucrat) for a few reasons. The rank, if this proposal passes, would probably be called Assistant-Patrollers or Monitors and would be ranked below Patrollers but above regular users. This ranking would bring minor things on the wiki up to date and help Patrollers with their duties.
 * 1) I feel that the Wiki has been kind of lagging per say lately. In example, the proposals section sometimes has proposals a day past deadline. The New Proposals section, unless it is updated by another user who has started a new proposal changes it, will often sit not being updated for a few days (not day, days) before being updated. These are only a few examples out of many I could point out.
 * 2) Some users deserve promotions, but may or may not be ready for the current rankings.
 * 3) The Patrollers, Sysops, and Bureaucrats would probably like more help.

Proposer: Deadline: 5 May 2009, 17:00

Create New Ranking

 * 1) - Per the above comments, and my comments below.
 * 2) Per my reasons above and Stooben Rooben's below.

Don't Create New Ranking

 * 1) - Considering Patrollers were once removed not having enough power, a ranking whose only power is a souped up version of something normal users can already do (Anyone can undo an edit) seems incredibly pointless.
 * 2) - Per Blitz
 * Per Blitzwing. There's no need for another rank. If we need more "higher-privileged" people, they can be perfectly patrollers.

Comments
I am not sure if this falls under the promotions rule of proposals, I do remember a proposal about Patrollers, though.
 * Okay, a few notes here.


 * First and foremost, once this clears, we must inform about the changed that need to be made. (If they can be.)
 * Secondly, what kind of powers would this ranking have? Patrollers have the ability to Block, Patrol, and Rollback, so this ranking would have to have even less powers.
 * Third, the proposals page does not need to be updated by a Sysop. Any user can archive proposals.

--


 * To respond to your notes:


 * I will make sure that knows about this. He seems to have been offline lately, if he is when we tell him, and he doesn't respond, I won't know what to do then.
 * This new ranking would have the powers of Rollback and Patroling, not much less than a Patroller, but they are basically Patrollers in training.
 * I know, I have archived proposals before, but a lot of users who see proposals just sitting there and don't do anything about it. This could possibly be a part of the new position, making sure that everything is up to date. This would help keep the flow of Wiki going.

I hope that explains everything.

Cool, thanks for elaborating.
 * Porplemontage was recently on a short hiatus, but he returned last night. He'll be active daily, likely.
 * Okay. This is merely my thoughts on a Monitor's power, but I believe they should only have the ability to Rollback. There are several wikis that have a rank just for rolling back, so I think that would be a good idea. But, since this is your proposal, I'm not forcing my opinions on you.
 * Alright, that sounds fair.

--


 * Well, now that I look at what you said, I think you are correct. I think the Moniter would be too similar to Patrollers with both powers, they should only have Rollback. Thank you for pointing that out.
 * Alright, then. You have my support!
 * Thank you for your support and help with the proposal itself.

Removals
''None at the moment.

Splits & Merges
''None at the moment.

Policy on Soundtracks
Looking through the Wiki, I've noticed that we have very inconsistent coverage of soundtracks. This is because we have no policy on soundtracks. Our current soundtrack coverage consists of Music and subpages, and Template:Media. As it is, these pages are maintained according to the standard of "whatever we felt like at the time." Many of them include unofficial track names and links to full tracks from the games. I believe this system is unacceptable for several reasons:


 * 1) In linking the soundtracks, we might inhibit Nintendo's ability to make a profit, as game soundtracks are often sold as standalone products or promotional merchandise.
 * 2) Most songs from games are not officially named. Therefore, they all fall under the categories of conjectural info and fanon.
 * 3) Relating to #1 above, their inclusion may put the wiki in a questionable legal situation.

Therefore, I propose we instate one of the following alternative policies:


 * 1) Cropped Soundtracks: Include soundtracks, but ONLY as clips of the first, say, 30 seconds of each song.
 * 2) Degraded Quality: Include soundtracks at a low bitrate, so the clips will be undesirably to people looking to pirate the soundtrack.
 * 3) No Coverage: Do not cover game soundtracks.

Proposer: Deadline: 2 May, 2009, 20:00

No Coverage

 * 1) - Per 2257. I find that no coverage should be made on songs featured in Mario games for all the reasons 2257 mentioned. It's an unnecessary risk that the wiki should not take.
 * 2) - Per 2257. There is no reason to keep these pages, and we don't want to make Nintendo not able to make money!
 * 3) - Per 2257, thats piarcy
 * 4) - Even though this would be destroying my pipe-project, I have to agree with 2257.
 * 5) - Per, See discussion.
 * 6) Per all, and I think we should only have the best quality here on the wiki, or nothing at all.

Discussion
degraded copies make the wiki look degraded. Lu-igi board 10:08, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

Lu-igi board: It's what Wikipedia does, that's really why I suggested it. Zafum: What do you plan to do about the tracks with no names, and how do you plan to solve the copyright issue?

I'm a little divided on the subject. I can understand the issue about MP3s on the wiki, however I'm not sure that removing the soundtrack pages altogether would be beneficial. (I'm mainly divided because I think I might be able to help contribute, meaning supply things like album covers and possibly some corrections on track details.) I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, and thereafter I will make a decision. Neu (edits 07:53, 28 April 2009 (EDT)


 * I guess the database was reverted for some reason, (Was it Rudniki? O_o) (The database was reverted because of Rudnicki, not by him. Neu (edits)because I actually already talked about this. Anyway, when a soundtrack is released by Nintendo separately from a game, it would still be covered under official merchandise.
 * I see, thanks for clearing it up. Neu (edits 20:09, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Make rules for Poll Selection
The poll page is really falling apart, little by little. So I've come up with some rules that we could make that would eliminate unwanted, or repeated polls, and would make the page look much more formal:
 * 1) No signatures
 * 2) All polls with 2 more opposers than supporters will be deleted
 * 3) All repeated polls will be deleted
 * 4) All non mario polls will be deleted
 * 5) All polls that have over 10 options will be deleted

Proposer: Deadline: 4 May, 2009, 17:00

Make Rules

 * 1) - Per me.
 * 2) - The polls page needs some support. I've been thinking of some new rules since the duty was just passed to me, and these look just fine.
 * 3) The polls really need these rules
 * 4) Per all, Zafum does have a few points.
 * 5) Though i rarely agree with Zafum, this time i have to, Per
 * 6) - OMG THANKS ZAFUM!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL WAS MADE!!! *realizes he's shouting* Ahem, I really wanted a proposal like this one. I've been posting messages in the Poll Selection talk page to make people (and specially Sysops) enforce some rules. Once again, great job, Zafum. I'm glad you took some minutes of your precious time to type this. :awesome:

Miscellaneous
Nothing at the moment.