User talk:Mario/Archive 10

  Updated talk page, possibly resuming activity? Last updated: 01:20, November 26, 2020 (EST)

My mom gave me a five, she told me to stay alive, but I didn't stay alive. Instead I became this Mario, Bazooka zooka Mario!


 * Welcome with bibbangs! I'll usually reply, unless it's an extremely immature treasure chest of spam, profanity, and some wandalism mixed in. In that case, no one'll help u if sad and you'll make great friends with rapid exothermic reaction. I may reply on your talk page or on my talk page, but when in doubt, check my talk page. If I don't reply, don't be afraid to shoot another message. I'm a busy murderer.
 * If you're referring me to other users (such as in proposals), I'd rather be called "LeftyGreenMario/LGM" (my former name), "Mario", or "Bazooka Mario". Try to refrain from "BM" since it sounds awfully like "Baby Mario", and a gun-wielding freak like me would rather not be compared to some shitty baby.
 * I will not accept random users as friends.
 * And yes, corn is grass and can be used to make fancy headdresses at your fingertips.

Re:List of songs in the colorful splashes
The songs on the list you gave me is for Paper Mario: Color Splash, not Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. Even Wario thinks its crazy. 00:51, 1 October 2016 (EDT)
 * "Epic Story" is way shorter on the music player, "Come On" is repeated twice, and the list is in Pal version. All these things say, "No. This is less accurate then the lengths there now." 01:06, 1 October 2016 (EDT)

New subject


00:55, 1 October 2016 (EDT)

RE: 3DS Custom Themes
I couldn't tell you because I don't really like bothering with that sort of stuff. I like to keep homebrew and official Nintendo stuff separate as much as I can, fearing bricking my 3DS by the modifications of system files, malformed custom extras being loaded not officially distributed by Nintendo, or being detected that I use homebrew to the point Nintendo would refuse services. Your desires are different than mine and you are willing to risk it. I suggest going to /r/3dshacks and using the Q&A thread to sort out your issues. -- 02:33, 6 October 2016 (EDT)

Color Whatever
Hopefully someone's gonna upload sprite sheets of a game we both care about rather than that one Wii U game that spews toxicity in the manner portrayed like paint. 19:20, 7 October 2016 (EDT)

Re:Color Splash needs to go to hell
Wait, do you hate Paper Mario: Color Splash still as well? (looks like I'm not the only one). 15:42, 9 October 2016 (EDT)

Is this ok or do you want to do it.
I noticed that in Featured articles/N1/Mario & Luigi (series) that you put Yoshi (series) and MarioWiki:Featured articles/Unfeature/Archive/N1/Mario Kart (series). This needs to be changed because of a proposal. Can I do it, or do you want to do it yourself. 15:10, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
 * I don't think it's wholly necessary to change all redirects, but if it bothers you, go ahead. 19:47, 19 October 2016 (EDT)

"Blarg" section on your userpage
I see you have fake names for several users on your userpage. Do you take requests, or do you just decide to do someone? P.S. This you will like: 22:28, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
 * Well, actually, I was wondering if you could do one for me. I was asking if you make one for any given user if they ask, or if you just decide who to do yourself.

14:44, 27 October 2016 (EDT)
 * I have been pretty active. Just look at my contributions.
 * P.S. I'm too lazy to give you a third picture of that garlic-monger. 14:55, 27 October 2016 (EDT)
 * I see! I didn't quite get the first one. Also, is the third one supposed to look like an emoticon of a happy Luigi? :O)D

15:30, 27 October 2016 (EDT)

I think I see a typo. I should be "YoshiRight" or "YoshiNotwrong".

15:35, 27 October 2016 (EDT)
 * I think YoshiK'AAAAAAARRRGGGH is pretty spot on tho. 15:39, 27 October 2016 (EDT)

I don't quite get my first one. 15:44, 27 October 2016 (EDT)
 * I'm... not sure either. Heh. Changed it. 16:05, 27 October 2016 (EDT)

Hello, other people! Anyway, I get it now. And I appreciate efforts to not include double meanings. Lastly, happy Luigi will always be happy. :O)D And my attempt to make an unhappy Wario emoticon utterly failed. >:VZ( 15:55, 27 October 2016 (EDT)
 * Man, this conversation is going to be hard to follow later on. :P 16:05, 27 October 2016 (EDT)

New subject
that moment when Mario Party: Star Rush is still more than a week away



20:16, 28 October 2016 (EDT)

This one's for you guys


19:58, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * [[File:Wario hurt VBWL.png]]


 * I would definitely help with that if I had the game... :( 20:04, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * WLIIFlatWarioSprite.png
 * I've been saving 3DS pics to Miiverse, then cropping them if I need to. Perhaps you could do that if you have the game? 20:11, 7 November 2016 (EST)

Wiggler "characteristics and traits"
Oh, nice job.

Sincerely, Shokroach 21:52, 7 November 2016 (EST)
 * No problem. :) 21:54, 7 November 2016 (EST)

Color Splash Ripping
Hi, I was told you are great at ripping. Do you think you could get the all GUI elements from Paper Mario: Color Splash?-- 03:40, 13 November 2016 (EST)

The Proposal
I fail to see how those gifs, when placed on background, are "very bad". I've been working with them for over a week now and I just started work on the Paper Mario: Color Splash bestiary which uses the gifs. Sure, I can see they have the sharp edges, but it's hardly that noticeable and it has no affect on the overall appearance. The gifs are always resized small enough, about 100px, that it makes no difference. I support allowing APNGs, but not as a means to replace the current standard, which is supported by everything.
 * Also, I tried to find some more info about Chrome getting APNG support, but found nothing. Right now, the only way is by installing an extension. If APNG support isn't coming to Chrome, that would leave only Firefox and Safari as supporters. -- 00:39, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 * I'm blown away by this. I had no clue these gifs looked so terrible in chrome. They look perfect in Edge. -- 00:59, 19 November 2016 (EST)

APNG images as .png files are already supported
I didn't manage to explain this properly, but APNG images in .png files, including the fallback to the static first frame,. Should we ask Steve to modify the thumbnail generator so that thumbnails generated out of them are animated too, to unofficially fix behind the scenes this inconvenient problem of lack of support of .apng files, which would lead to the widespread use of an unsupported format?--Mister Wu (talk) 03:35, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 * or better yet, it should be written while uploading that APNG images are forbidden.--Mister Wu (talk) 03:45, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 * I think the APNG format works by including the frames as metadata. That probably explains why PNG Monstrous gets rid of all but the first frame because to save on file space, it strips any metadata as well (Photoshop has traces if making a transparent sprite or something). That's probably why thumbnail generation works, but as a static frame (using the old PNG thumbnail generator built-in MediaWiki). -- 05:00, 19 November 2016 (EST)

Featured Article Done
Featured articles/N/Wiggler has successfully passed. Please make the necessary changes to make it an official featured article. 09:00, 26 November 2016 (EST)
 * Huh, thanks for that. Didn't know it'll get more votes. 14:15, 27 November 2016 (EST)

Hello!
Ah, you changed your username! I didnt know! Thnks for giving me your ID! I am glad to see you again ^^'

Blah blah blah
Those idiots should be ashamed of themselves for taking this bloody long for uploading a transparent version of the classical, timeless artwork The Playable Debut of The Absolute Best Character In Fiction. And making it the last to boot, by thinking other characters in Mubble Cash are even a mite bit superior over The Great Overlords of the BL Lacertae Galaxy.

PS there's STILL NO MARIO PARTY STAR RUSH SPRITE RIP OF WARIO WITH HIS BLOODSHOT EYES.

THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD? 01:12, 28 November 2016 (EST)
 * Hello Baby Luigi, it's long time, how are you ? --Captain Yoshi 05:03, 28 November 2016 (EST)

You can help me ?
Hello, it's a long time, how are you ? You can help for my sig, i want the head's atwork the Yellow Yoshi (MK8). You uderstand my English ? You can help me please ?

It's not good to die... -Captain Yoshi 05:09, 28 November 2016 (EST)

What is this sh*t !?
Hello my friend, for my sig i have a problem ! Look ! : --&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User:Captain Yoshi&#124;Captain Yoshi&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 08:35, 30 November 2016 (EST) It's not normal, Pourquoi ca fait ca ? Je voulais mettre une couleur a ma signature du "orange" mais ca a pas marché, it's very suck...

Captain Yoshi
 * No ! It's okay ! J'ai réparé 😊 --Captain Yoshi MK8 Yellow Yoshi Icon.png 10:11, 30 November 2016 (EST)

Move of Shine Block Successful
Now that I moved the information to the appropriate pages, I need you to check that the split didn't make any information invalid (Shine Block (disambiguation)). -- 02:13, 2 December 2016 (EST)
 * As far as I know, the proper edits are made to accommodate the change and I don't see any real problems. I think you're all right. 14:32, 2 December 2016 (EST)
 * OK. Would be able to do more? She uploaded File:Shine Block.gif. Does she know anything more about the games? -- 18:05, 3 December 2016 (EST)
 * Probably does. She uploaded that as a GIF probably to illustrate that the block switches between the two palettes. 18:56, 3 December 2016 (EST)

First Time Animating
I think you can see some stray pixels. Can you fix this? I don't see how in GIMP. -- 21:39, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * I fixed it for you.-- 21:58, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * Thanks, Eldirtchdraaks, but you need to explain how this works in GIMP. For GIMP editing, you hit right-click on the image and save it. Open it in GIMP. Each layer should be shown that denotes different frames. Next to the layer name, you probably see frame-related information such as "replace" and "30 ms" (30 milliseconds) and you can adjust these. You can use the playback feature, which is part of a dropdown (filters, I believe?) which lets you preview the sprites. I know the animation might look weird in playback, but the "replace" descriptor makes it so you don't see the other frames when the image is exported. When you're done, you can export it as a gif (I don't use "export as 'filename.gif'") and you can mess around with the settings these as well. Generally, though, I like "replace every frame" and "looped", and make sure "export as animation" is checked. Once it's exported, you can double-click the .gif and it'll probably open Internet Explorer, where you'll see the animation previewed. 22:17, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * What I am unsure about is how those stray pixels got there in the first place and how to remove them from the frame(s) that put them there. -- 23:00, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * It might have been an optimization thing that GIMP does have. Anyhow, you just edit the frames as if they're layers (since they are layers) if you see them in those layers. If not, it's probably something going on in the exporting process. 23:56, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * I think I know what happened. I feel stupid now. I forgot to clear a part of the background when the egg becomes elongated instead of being in a standard pose. I recorded the animation in 50FPS using GifCam as the game was running at that speed (normally 30/60FPS). I wanted the animation to be as authentic as possible. 60FPS doesn't divide evenly across 1000ms. I decided to run the game at PAL standard (like playing NTSC-U SMW2 on a European SNES). Each frame lasts for 20ms at 50FPS, which matches the European release. After the recording, I cropped the entire animation and deleted the background for standard pose only and no the elongated one. -- 03:07, 21 December 2016 (EST)

Signature
MarioMario456! 09:41, 28 December 2016 (EST)

It's been fixed even though the signature barely reached past the box horizontally. Now, be gone. 13:17, 28 December 2016 (EST)
 * Thanks! --Mario-1.gifMario456! 10:44, 30 December 2016 (EST)

Just noticed this but it is probably safe to revert to the older version. I got a notice from that user too and it was overturned by sysops. As long as it passes, you are fine. Mine does. -- 00:27, 7 February 2017 (EST)
 * It actually didn't pass, but it was barely over that. Had to change, but it's such a silly "adhere strictly to the books" kinda thing.... 00:33, 7 February 2017 (EST)
 * That's more of how to run ourselves. Some people prefer a clear border (like me) while others prefer a threshold before considering something in violation (like some sysops here). -- 00:37, 7 February 2017 (EST)
 * The latter is me! I like Wikipedia's philosophy to ignore all rules, which unless something is in clear violation, I'll let my common sense be the judge and just shrug that it isn't a big problem. 00:45, 7 February 2017 (EST)

New 3DS Exploit
soundhax - So far, only works on N3DS latest firmware. It looks like O3DS is in the works. Looks like a primary entry point. -- 15:56, 28 December 2016 (EST)
 * Cool, but I can't use it now because I have o3DS. Thanks for letting me know! :) 16:26, 28 December 2016 (EST)
 * I'm about to try it out.-- 20:13, 28 December 2016 (EST)
 * Go here because it was released formally! -- 05:11, 30 December 2016 (EST)

Calling names
You called Shokora Shokoroach! I guess I should expect to be called Luigi 64Dcfldd now. 21:20, 6 January 2017 (EST)

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21:26, 6 January 2017 (EST)

Forum account at the Super Mario Boards...?
Hey, I was just rechecking to see if you have a forum account at the Super Mario Boards; there's something that I would like to ask you regarding the images you added to this wiki related to the Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour installment (via PM because it's a question I can't post here on your talk page). Let me know soon; thanks in advance. --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 05:11, 9 January 2017 (EST)

Userspace content
Hey Lefty. Recently, several admins were discussing the "Blarg" section on your userpage, which we believe borders as being discourteous towards other users. Would it be okay if the section can be removed entirely?

Additionally, it was brought up that occasionally, your talk page status describes very strong, negative emotions and personal thoughts. I understand that you are dealing with a lot of tough issues at the moment. But the wiki isn't really a place to advertise those sorts of feelings. I hope you understand.

08:09, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * If it's any consolation, I quite like the Blarg. Or at least mine anyway. - Al-ExMachina95
 * I don't like the Blarg. At least my name (Yoshi the Dedicated Really Long Name Manager) isn't that bad. 12:05, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * Well, at least keep me, because twin relationships always have facetious name-calling. 13:26, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * Also, I don't necessarily agree with "not putting negative emotions and thoughts". It explains her inactivity here, so people don't message her while she's in those states, as a little bit of honesty never hurt anyone, because she would be otherwise lying to herself and we don't like being unable to express ourselves, especially in areas where we like going in. HOWEVER, I did notice that a large time of her status is entirely in strong negative emotions like "I want to die" or "Good riddance to 2016", and I don't think that's acceptable to be honest. ALSO I don't agree with her putting feelings to that level of intensity either. I used to do that, but I stopped because honestly, I don't feel that bad any more and I kinda regret saying things I said here that shouldn't have been said here so I learned from that. 13:48, 9 February 2017 (EST)

I removed it though I thought people would have a cheap laugh or two seeing their names being mentioned and mocked as I would if a regular friendly editor would do to my name.

I just want to say that editing the wiki is making me unhappy more than happy, so I thought I should communicate that to other users. Didn't know I'd also be spreading the negative influence around since I just want to tell people how my feelings ultimately impact how I edit. I don't see "moderating" my emotions, especially those that strongly impact my editing such as a lack of motivation, is going to be of any help aside from making people feel better about my white lies of omission. 14:06, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * I certainly had a good laugh at "Rebutt". I'm sorry you're going through some hard times, both of you. I wish I could say something other than "It'll get better, you just have to push on", but that's the best advice I can give at the moment. Just...hang in there. And you don't necessarily have to edit the wiki, it's more of a voluntary thing. If there is something else that will make you happy, you go and do it! Though I understand the wiki offers a sort of escapism. 14:12, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * Thanks. And of course, my best intentions is to make people laugh, not offend them, so I apologize if I did offend anyone. I myself don't feel obligated to edit the wiki, but I used to have some pleasure and I think I'm trying to get it again but it's not there, and I just feel very unhappy and pointless. 14:15, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * In fact, I sometimes try to get you to edit the wiki again. I have lots of motivation, mostly because Sports Superstars is close to getting released and I want to work my hardest on that article! 14:20, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * If you do end up leaving for a time, I know a lot of us will be sad to see you go, especially since you're one of the longest contributing users on here. Considering you've been editing since 2009, it's not unexpected that you'd want to take a break. I realize the Blarg was just a for fun thing, something unique to your userpage that you can edit to help keep your mind off of things. But, hey, if you feel like it, you can call me whatever you want :) 14:22, 9 February 2017 (EST)
 * I wasn't offended by the section either (although being Italian I might not even have got the actual meaning of the jokes on me ;-) ). In any case your recent edits weren't pointless, and even if they were I'm sure you wouldn't be pointless anyway. I'm sorry that you feel that way. I hope you can find what is making you unhappy and find as well a way or an help to overcome it.--Mister Wu (talk) 19:31, 9 February 2017 (EST)

OK, that came out of left field. I don't understand the motive for the edits since November 19, 2016. I'm sorry that I just started noticing this. I usually ignore other people's business but this one is concerning because I went to 's talk page first for a different matter entirely. I don't know what events transpired. This isn't like you ! You were the first to notice my high quality uploads and even got me better informed about 3DS homebrew and now you are expressing negativity? I'm more confused than angry or offended (not angry or offended at all but zero is still less than my confusion). -- 18:05, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

Um...
I'll be sad to see you go, hopefully you'll come back some day... Marioguy (talk) 21:35, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

You're back


19:34, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

I'm back
I AM BACK! I changed my username which is cool. I am back on Mario wiki and am hoping that people aren't so mean. So what's up? User:Bowser the Yoshi 20:45, 3 September 2017 (EDT) Also "sucks" is not that bad of a word after all... I was just 10..

Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions Sprites
Do you know when the sprites of the enemies and bosses of the game will be ready? 2:22 PM Sep 29th 2017 DryBowzillaJP
 * Well, since isn't very active on the wiki anymore, I think I can reply to your question instead. As far as I know, some ripping has already been done, but it looks like they are waiting for the release date before publishing sprites. After the release date you can go to The Spriters Resource to find them.--Mister Wu (talk) 19:24, 30 September 2017 (EDT)

Re:Wario of the day
Will respond to you with a random photograph from somewhere else entirely

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/%D0%A3%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA.jpg

16:16, 2 August 2018 (EDT)

Welcome back


Wario missed you. -- 19:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
 * UGH! Can you, Waluigi, and Wario get off my page!? 00:51, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * {| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"

!style=background:lavender colspan=3| Baby Waluigi. That's all you need to know.
 * [[File:Baby Waluigi.png]]
 * }
 * Unfortunately, fellow snarker, that shan't be. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:51, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Go get some help, man. I collapsed that picture of Baby Waluigi to protect unaided eyes. 22:08, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * What's the worst it can cause? Uncontrollable laughter? I mean, I guess that's killed a few... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:12, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I've seen some reactions the image has elicited. Better play it safe. 22:38, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * SuperHamster from Nookipedia here - stumbled upon you being active here again. Just wanted to say, it's great to hear from you and glad to see you back! (even if it's not Nookipedia :P). Hope everything is well. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:45, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Well, hello, SuperHamster. I missed you, and I also miss Nookipedia actually, and I wanted to go back, even if briefly. I have some projects for Nookipedia in mind, such as uploading renders I found in Models Resource of the furniture, but I'm swamped with other projects. I might come back eventually, though! 13:10, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Well, hello, SuperHamster. I missed you, and I also miss Nookipedia actually, and I wanted to go back, even if briefly. I have some projects for Nookipedia in mind, such as uploading renders I found in Models Resource of the furniture, but I'm swamped with other projects. I might come back eventually, though! 13:10, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

Thank you
Thank you for revising Wish Race. I like learning from how others proofread the stuff i write. The HD Guy (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
 * No problem. I was also tempted to walk into your talk page to applaud you for your uploads! Good job on those, too! 17:04, 29 August 2018 (EDT)

Wario time
I mean, I'll never turn down Wario, but I think you need him more than me.



-- 15:40, 30 August 2018 (EDT)

RE: Regarding your talk page comments
Because I can't do it. Simply by the information that I don't have, or because I don't know to format it... But I thought it'd be a good implemention, and it was just a suggestion to someone who knows about it. If it is against policy, sorry, I'll not do this again! -- (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2018 (EDT)


 * I will make the table for that, so (challenge for me lol). Thanks for encouraging me to do that! --DyeffersonAzSignature.png (talk) 19:08, 1 September 2018 (EDT)


 * I'm thinking of not doing that because Said that it is being phased out! --DyeffersonAzSignature.png (talk) 19:30, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * Okay, well, related to Mario Party 4, did you find any good quality back-of-box images? I think that's all right to upload. 19:34, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

RE: Wario
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. As a reward, have an even larger full quality Wario!



-- 10:44, April 12, 2019 (EDT)
 * Don't worry, you'll always have more Warios from me. You were long overdue, so I took excellent care of that. 14:06, April 13, 2019 (EDT)

HI
CAN I FRIEND YOU?


 * My ears. 14:01, April 13, 2019 (EDT)

Green Electro-Koopa
Hello, i see you're the one who created this page. It isn't named in-game, and is only given generic descriptors. I have asked to LinkTheLefty if it's mentioned in any guide (given that he owns them all), but i haven't got an answer yet. Do you have a specific source that simply calls this an Electro-Koopa. -- 13:03, May 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * Electro Koopa is just a logical name to give the thing. It looks like the other electric Koopas, found in the similar location to them, and whatnot. I don't know the source but it's a case of looks like a duck, quacks like a duck sort of thing. 18:43, May 9, 2019 (EDT)

My signature
I changed it from yellow to gold, and FYI, gold is a darker shade of yellow. -- 00:14, July 12, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I noticed. Sorry for not noticing earlier! The cyan is a little bright, so I think that one should also be dialed back just a little. 00:17, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

Proposals
It would be nice if you took part in it Pokemon (talk) 02:31, July 30, 2020 (EDT)

Cheese proposal comment
Hi, I was archiving the Cheese and Froggy proposals today and noticed the comment you left on the Cheese one last night (Nothing like leaving it until the last minute :P), and I just wanted to ask what exactly it was you were asking(?) about? I didn't quite know what you were getting at, and it was too late to respond on the proposal as the deadline had passed, so I just thought I'd bring it up here. BBQ Turtle (talk) 07:46, November 26, 2020 (EST)
 * Oh! Well, I just want to see a concrete case for Cheese being distinct and treated differently from Red. I just like to see examples supporting having Cheese getting a different page compared to Red. So far I've seen a user say that Red's case is more haphazard, more "spotty", but if this means Cheese appears even less often, I just think that makes more of a reason to discuss Cream and Cheese as one article, especially when this is crossover content, so I don't think it's harmful to convey a bit of a limited scope as crossover pages seem to do? Anyway, I can point to Cream and Cheese being suitable as a duo, such as the naming convention but also appearing as a trophy together in every Smash Bros. installment since Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but again, if there's a solid case for keeping them separate, and the case is within the boundaries of Mario & Sonic (for example, Cream and Cheese might be more "separate" in their home games but that can be argued as tangential to MarioWiki?). Unfortunately, the proposal passed right after I discussed my opinion about it and we can't easily amend it, as I came too late, apologies. [[File:SMW Mario Explodes.png]] 14:40, November 26, 2020 (EST)

RE: A Wario pop-up has appeared in your computer
Personally, I welcome my new Wario overlords. Wahahaha!



-- 11:35, November 26, 2020 (EST)
 * WARIO SAYS... WAH. Enjoy the virus generating free Warios. 14:42, November 26, 2020 (EST)