Talk:KP Koopa

MERGE
A bit like Mr Bones' Spookum one. I believe this page should be merged with either Koopa Troopa or KP Koopas-since only 2 appear in the game and they are characters, it's likely that they are the only 2. They are not a different species, they have just dyed their shells and are not important enough for their own page. According to KP Pete's tattle, "That's a KP Koopa. It's a Koopa Troopa of a slightly different color. Looks like its abilities are just like any Koopa...". @Anyone who opposes: The three KP Koopas in PMTTYD are from the Glitz Pit. They are the only ones. Colour or location does not matter. Are you saying we should make separate articles for Red Koopa Troopas from Petalburg? Or Blue Goombas from W1-2 of SMB? NO! The tattle confirms it (and it is just a tattle for a character (KP Pete)): "It's a Koopa Troopa of a slightly different colour." Not a good reason to be split. It just wears a Shell DYED Gold. KP Pete and his friends were regular Koopa Troopas once, as with (If any others exist) all KP Koopas.

Proposer: Deadline: September 2nd, 2010 (24:00)

Merge!

 * 1) Per Proposal

Please, before opposing, read my comments and the article

 * 1) KP Koopas have different tattle information than Koopa Troopas, are different colors than Koopas, and appear in different locations than them. Plus, they are listed as separate characters. Basically, they are a similar sub-species of Koopa Troopas.
 * 2) Let me ask you something: do you have any proof that they´re just recolored Koopas? No.
 * 3) Per Fawfulfury65.
 * 4) Per Fawfulfurt65.
 * 5) My proposal have both of these conditions: Same name and similarity. Yours has only the second one. Sorry, but per all.

Discuss. You have two weeks starting frooooomm---NOW!
I somewhat don't get this. What is the reason to merge? My spookum one is the japanese name.
 * KP Koopas are just Koopa Troopas who dyed their shells gold, yes? Well, then they are not a sub-species, and there are only 2 seen, meaning KP Koopas are just decorated Koopa Troopas. If only 2 appear in the whole game, then they probably are the only ones, most Glitz Pit enemies have different colours, clothing etc. KP Koopa is not worthy of a page. It's stats are almost the same as a regular Koopa.

KP koopas are memebers of a fighting team? It mens they're characters? Should we merge all of the goomba characters into the goomba article???
 * You don't understand. I'm not planning to merge the characters article, but the species article. The KP Koopa article refers to them as a species but really all it is is a fashion move. KP Pete and his 2 friends probably are the only ones.

KP Koopas are warriors, it's their grade or something. And KP Pete is one of them!
 * Where does it say they are warriors? Anyway, if they are not regular Koopas, why does it say that "It is explicitely stated that KP Koopas have the same abilities as normal Koopa Troopas, and merely differ in coloration"? This is similar to your Spookum proposal as they are just a different colour. And if it is a rank, then it is moreso similar to aforementioned TPP.

@Reversinator: Yes, actually: "It's a Koopa Troopa of a slightly different color." The tattle for KP Koopa and KP Pete is the same even. So FF65, that is a character tattle for KP Pete, so it is meant to be different. Honestly, I am facepalming here. FF65 is wrong because the tattle for King K and KP Koopa is the same. Mentioned everywhere, the only real difference is the colour of the shells. And yet again, should we make different articles for Red Koopas from Petalburg. IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE COLOUR OR THE LOCATION!!!
 * 1: King K is a notable character. He's minor but, still deserves a article. Like, would we merge Red and Goomba with the goombas? No. There are characters. All characters deserve there own article. Look at the Koopa article. In the infobox (History, first game, etc.) there are character links to koopa characters in the infobox. So we should keep a King K article. 2: location, tattle, and sub-species matter MrConcreteDonkey.
 * @Fuzzipede27: FACEPALMFACEPALMFACEPALM! I AM NOT PLANNING TO MERGE KING K! I'm planning to merge the linked article, KP Koopa, about the species. The location of a species doesn't matter-Koopa Troopas are found all over the place and don't have separate articles for where they are found. The tattle is the same as King K's tattle, and sub-species matters...I think you are talking about King K again. KP Koopas are just Koopa Troopas. They aren't an official sub-species, they just have different coloured shells!

@MrConcreteDonkey: I said KP Koopas don't have the same tattle as Koopa Troopas, I didn't say King K and all them didn't have the same tattle. Also, King K and KP Pete have the same tattle because they are both KP Koopas.
 * First of all, King K and KP Pete are the same person. Second, I said KP Koopa and King K had the same tattle. KP Koopas have a different one because they are characters. 'KP Koopa' is probably just a term coined by King K and friends because their team name and the tattle, which probably got it from the team name, is the only source of the name. 18:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I haven't played PM2 in a while, and I forgot they were both the same people. Anyways, you have no proof that it is a term made up from King K. The game names them differently from Koopas, so they have to be a sub-species, meaning they must have their own article.
 * The article says that they are just Koopa Troopas who have dyed their shells. That does not mean it's a sub-species. You can't spray paint a raccoon purple and call it a new sub-species. 18:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And the name means nothing. What proof do you have that it isn't just a term made by King K? The game names them differently, but I believe it's because they are just nicknames because of the Glitz Pit name. 18:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

NOO! The name means everything! How did you know it's a term used by king k or whatever that guy's name is? We need proofs and proofs are in the game!

Nicknames? Soo...All the koopa troopas are nicknamed KP Koopas? NO! I never played PM2, but from what I read in the article, those guys are a fighting team! If you're in wikipedia, are you gonna merge all the football teams into a human article???!

The game itself consider the KP Koopas to be different enemies (tattle log). That they have identical abilities doesn't matter, because they're still identified as different.

Also, Mr bones, please stop making multiple messages in a row. You're getting way too excited over this. --Glowsquid 18:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)