MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Separate Wii U audio files from the ones on the GBA (Discuss) Passed
 * Split the Paper Mario boos from Big Boo into a separate article. (Discuss) Passed
 * Merge Blurp (Yoshi's Story) with Cheep Cheep (Discuss) Deadline: June 21, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Big Bertha with Boss Bass (Discuss) Deadline: June 24, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Boss Bass with Cheep Chomp (Discuss) Deadline: June 24, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Alph with Captain Olimar (Discuss) Deadline: June 24, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Expand Radio conversation characters to cover Palutena's Guidance and rename accordingly (Discuss) Deadline: July 3, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
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New features
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Remove four proposal rules
Four rules for a proposal seem unneccessary and I think they should be removed. Here are the four rules to keep or remove.

''-Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion. ''-If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all. ''-Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of all votes cast must be for a single option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options. ''-Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.''

If this was a soccer match, does the game go to extra time (or end in a draw) just because the score is 1-0, the winning team not winning by three goals? No. The team that scored the goal wins. Why does this have to apply to proposals? If a soccer game goes into a penalty shootout and the shootout is extended to the "first to score while opponent misses" section, could it end because the shootout went for a long time? No. Why should a proposal be canceled because it's gone for four weeks without a decision made?

Proposer: Deadline: Friday June 26, 2015 at 23:59 GMT.

Remove all four rules

 * 1) Per my proposal. If 1-3 rules are voted to be removed and the others kept, decide which ones.

Keep all four rules

 * 1) This proposal is very problematic and I will not support removing these essential rules. See comments below.
 * 2) Per 'Zooka Mario
 * 3) Per Mario.

Comments
I will outline the rules that you have problems with and explain why these rules should be in place.

-Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion. -If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all. -Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of all votes cast must be for a single option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options. -Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
 * This rule is here to encourage more votes. People don't vote all the time. If people don't vote, it's usually that they overlook it or the proposal itself is perhaps not important to draw attention. At the last ditch, you should contact other active users on your proposal, but keep in mind, it is a last ditch attempt, so don't try this unless you're certain nobody else will vote. This hasn't happened in my five plus years here, so it shouldn't happen.
 * The soccer match analogy doesn't work here. A proposal that has 20 votes in one side and 19 votes on the other side does not mean it should pass. What you're proposing places too much emphasis on the quantity of the votes rather than the the proportion of the votes. It's the reason the U.S. congress requires a 2/3 majority rather than a simple "this side has more supporters so it wins" because there needs to be a clear majority; if the amount of dissenters that rivals the supports, then there is a problem in the proposal. Allowing proposals to pass by only one vote will create problems.
 * I don't see the problem with this? Again, you're placing too much emphasis on the sheer quantity of votes rather than the proportion.
 * If a proposal has not reached consensus at the fourth deadline, it suggests a problem with the proposal. Subjects do get controversial sometimes, but this rule prevents proposals from dragging in the mud and encourages propoers to better phrase what they want next time. It also suggests that such proposal is not ready for voting and probably requires open discussion on respective talk pages and forum posts before actually putting it up to vote.

The voting process does have its problems, but what you're proposing is simply erasing the essential margin for a majority, and that's very problematic, especially when proposal decisions are quantified here. 18:46, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

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