MarioWiki:Proposals

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To Rules
 * 1) If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and Writing Guideline proposals must include a link to the draft page.
 * 2) Anyone can comment on proposals whether logged-in or not, but only registered users can create or vote on proposals.
 * 3) Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals, which run for two weeks. (All times GMT.)
 * 4) *For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
 * 5) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
 * 6) Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
 * 7) If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
 * 8) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of all votes cast must be for a single option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
 * 11) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. In other words, one option must have 50% + 3 of all votes cast. This means that if a basic two-option proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options require more precise counting of votes to determine if an extension is necessary.
 * 12) Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
 * 13) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 14) If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
 * 15) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived.
 * 16) There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
 * 17) Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
 * 18) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. - ===[insert a title for your Proposal here]=== [describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

Proposer: Deadline: [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT. (14 days for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals)

====Support====
 * 1) [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments==== - Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert " # at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.


 * For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

Rules
 * 1) All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place  under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with.
 * 2) All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
 * 3) Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
 * 4) *For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
 * 5) Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
 * 6) The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split Superball Flower from the Flower article. (Discuss) Deadline: January 5, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Change the BJAODN rule that states that commentaries by users are strongly discouraged. (Discuss) Deadline: January 8, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Mini Mario Door with Door article. (Discuss) Deadline: January 14, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Podoboo to Lava Bubble. (Discuss) Deadline: 15 January 15, 2013 GMT
 * Split one of the Luigis from Super Mario Galaxy into a new article. (Discuss) Deadline: January 15, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Make a bot template to non-users that have made 20 or more edits to encourage them to make an account
I think this needs to be made as the number of new users have fallen since non-users were allowedto edite. My idea of a new temeplate will help to solve this and it should be automacially posted by a bot if a non-user gets 20 or more edits using an IP.

The template should include extra things you can do with an account (like uploading images or removing adverts). The template should also include info about the Super Mario Boards, chat and Userpeadia as well as awards and shroom information. I have yet to create a draft but i'll get other users to help out on that in the near future.

If this passes, it should get more people making accounts as therefore we would have bigger commuity and therfore they would be able to do more things to help out.

Proposer: Deadline: January 2, 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per above.
 * 2) Per NSY. I've seen a few IPs out there who make frequent edits and start quality discussions (namely 86.148.118.231), and this would be a good was to encourage such users to create an account.
 * 3) Definitely agree here; and besides, it's difficult for us to recognize in terms of anonymous edits who are making good contributions. This should be created to encourage those folks to take the next step towards creating their account itself for these parts.
 * 4) Per all. People editing this number of edits should be forced to create an account.
 * 5) We need more accounts, not unknown people.  We need to get the word out.
 * 6) It's not a bad idea.
 * 7) At first I was a bit skeptical about informing non-users about UP, because of its current quality, but then I thought it is a great idea. As for the rest, with it 100%!
 * 8) It's always a shame to see good edits made by users you can't recognise.

Comments
Hey, could I help out with the template draft? It should have a link to Why create an account? -- 06:33, 26 December 2012 (EST)

@Megadadery - Honestly, I don't think we really need to "force" anonymous users to create an account, but we can let them know on the respective "IP talk pages" via a template that YoshiKong is thinking about that they're missing out on other features that are waiting for them on this wiki when they do create a user account. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 14:45, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Are you sure this can be done? I don't know how bots work.-- 12:25, 30 December 2012 (EST)


 * We'd better ask Porple before we can expect this to be implemented. 18:13, 30 December 2012 (EST)


 * Well I asked Porple, and unfortunately he doesn't know how to do this. So we would either have to withdraw this proposal or just pass off the general idea of a template and issue it manually. 04:13, 31 December 2012 (EST)

I crafted a simple draft of how the template could be. Not sure if it's good. -- 06:38, 31 December 2012 (EST)


 * It's a good start. There are some minor wording issues but they can be fixed later. 07:04, 31 December 2012 (EST)

You guys know that if a bot can't be created then the proposal can't be enforced right?


 * Well, I think we should do this, even if we have to manually distribute templates. It's worth it.  Now, who's with me?
 * Technically you guys don't have a right to even create the template because the proposal calls for a bot to issue it which isn't possible and because of that the template can't be used because the proposal doesn't say users can issue it if a bot can't but of course that's only if you want to be super super literal.

That would need another proposal. 01:58, 1 January 2013 (EST)

You know we could just info Porple about this Shoey, if you think it won't work just fill your name in the oppose box and by the way there there is one admin vote in the support box so it shows that this does work.
 * NSY please read the comments very carefully YoshiKong said he has asked Porple and Porple said it couldn't be done therefore this proposal is meaningless because you can't enforce it because the proposal calls for a bot to issue the template and since the bot can't be created you can't do anything with this proposal.

Reverse decision to make pages for the non-Mario attraction in Nintendo Land
(welp)

A while ago, there was a a proposal about creating articles for all the attractions in Nintendo Land. Said proposal was made before the WiiU (and thus, the game) was released in any territory and was based on the erroneous assumption that the game is a crossover-which it isn't. The attractions themes are strictly separate (so no Mario enemies appear in the Zelda-themed attraction and vice-versa) and there isn't any interaction in the hub. Having a bunch of stuff from multiple franchises doesn't necessarily make something a crossover, there has to be an interaction between those elements, which Nintendo Land lacks.

Having individual articles for the Mario-relevant attractions is fine, since they're reasonably long and fully-featured games, but having complete ones for the non-Mario ones is coverage creep, akin to making pages for Duck Hunt and Stadium Events because they were on the same cartridge as the original SMB at one point. Quite tellingly, despite the game being bundled with one WiiU model, only two of the eight non-Mario attractions have pages so far, which shows there isn't much interest in writing about things only marginally related to Mario.

So what I propose is simply keep the non-Mario attractions to short (maybe slightly longer than they are now) blurbs on the main Nintendo Land page, and scrap the Octopus Dance and Balloon Trip Breeze pages in the process.

Proposer: Deadline: January 9, 2013 23:59 GMT

Reverse decision

 * 1) what I wrote, lol.
 * 2) I opposed this last time so i'll oppose it again :).
 * 3) Per Glowsquid.
 * 4) This is a Mario wiki, not a Nintendo wiki.
 * 5) &mdash; Per all.
 * 6) We need information on them, but not entire pages.
 * 7) Per all!
 * 8) per akoage; we should put that stuff on Nwiki

Comments
Just a thought, but what could be done is that on the Nintendo Land page, there be a link to the page on the wiki that centers on said attractions. (i.e Metroid Blast link to the page on Metroid Wiki, if it exists.) -- 19:55, 2 January 2013 (EST)


 * If this proposal passes, would it be okay to keep the non-Mario artworks? -- 20:12, 2 January 2013 (EST)
 * yeah. --Glowsquid (talk) 20:15, 2 January 2013 (EST)
 * I suppose so, because the artworks are of Nintendo Land's Gallery, and since the article of Nintendo Land isn't being compromised, then neither are the artworks. -- 20:48, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Reduce the Talk Page Proposal deadline to one week
I propose reducing the TPP deadline to one week. Two weeks is too long in my opinion, since most talk page proposals are for minor changes. They don't require double the time of regular proposals. TPPs aren't noticed any less than regular proposals.

If this proposal passes it would only affect TPPs created after the change.

Proposer: Deadline: January 8, 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) I would of argue that some TPPs are too big to be settled in one week, but then I thought about it for a second and remembered that usually when a TPP is too big, it is usually turned into a proposal on this page. I support it because I don't see why users need more than a week for TPPs; usually, the arguments settle and editing, for the contribution, stop by the fourth or fifth day.
 * 3) Per 0777.

Oppose

 * two weeks give more users the chance to express their opinion, reaching a more widespread decision

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.