User talk:A gossip-loving Toad/Archive 1

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"Wanna be friends?"

- User:DaisyLuigi


 * Yes, my talk was empty. As for making friends, I didn't know that people could make friends on MarioWiki user pages before. I don't mind making friends, though, but I usually spend most of the free time on other things, not MarioWiki, so I may not want to have long chats on Mario-related topics. Any way, making friends is OK. Thank you for visiting. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 20:50, 18 November 2014 (EST)
 * You work on Wikipedia related topics? That is so cool! Well, sorry for interrupting your work!
 * Ah no, I'm not a Wikipedia editor, I was just giving a link. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 21:00, 18 November 2014 (EST)

Reference shortcut
Thanks so much for going back and adding all the TMK citations! For cases where a page was cited multiple times, you can actually use a single citation, like this. It's easier to manage once you know how to do it, and it looks better too. Thanks again! - 10:28, 24 February 2015 (EST)

RE: Japanese Help
Hello,

concerning the japanese tattle of Goompa, I translated it, but this unfortunately has not given me his name. The tattle refers to him as "jiichan", which means "Grandpa" in English. Is there any other text in the game likely to mention his Japanese name?

09:48, 27 February 2015 (EST)


 * I played the game from start. This is said by Goompa when fixing the veranda. The right column is those from Paper Mario.


 * Mario Story||''Paper Mario
 * うおっと おどろきましたな！||Ooh, you startled me!
 * おや あんた マリオさんじゃないかぬ||Hm, yes, Mario, isn't it?
 * やっと 目が さめなすったんじゃな||So you've awakened at last!
 * よかった よかった||Good! Knew you'd pull through!
 * ワシは クリじいですじゃ||Call me Goompa.
 * じいさんの クリボーじゃから||I'm the Goomba grandfather,
 * クリじいなんですじゃ||so...I'm Goompa.
 * すまんが くわしい[kanji similar to 话]は       ||I'm sorry, but would you mind
 * あとに してくだされ||giving me the details later?
 * ものほしの しゅうりを していて||I'm pretty busy fixing the
 * 手が はなせませんおじゃ||veranda.
 * このあいだの じしんのせいで||Did you feel that earthquake the
 * 家が あちこち こわれましてのう||other day, young feller? It
 * ||caused all kinds of damage.
 * ワシと クリパパで||But little by little, Goompapa
 * すこしずつ しゅうりしてますのじゃ||and I are fixing it all up.
 * なんでも あのじしんは||Folks are saying the center of
 * キノコ城の方で おこったとか...||the earthquake was right at
 * お城が しんぱいですのう||Princess Peach's Castle.
 * ||Boy, I sure hope not.
 * }
 * 手が はなせませんおじゃ||veranda.
 * このあいだの じしんのせいで||Did you feel that earthquake the
 * 家が あちこち こわれましてのう||other day, young feller? It
 * ||caused all kinds of damage.
 * ワシと クリパパで||But little by little, Goompapa
 * すこしずつ しゅうりしてますのじゃ||and I are fixing it all up.
 * なんでも あのじしんは||Folks are saying the center of
 * キノコ城の方で おこったとか...||the earthquake was right at
 * お城が しんぱいですのう||Princess Peach's Castle.
 * ||Boy, I sure hope not.
 * }
 * すこしずつ しゅうりしてますのじゃ||and I are fixing it all up.
 * なんでも あのじしんは||Folks are saying the center of
 * キノコ城の方で おこったとか...||the earthquake was right at
 * お城が しんぱいですのう||Princess Peach's Castle.
 * ||Boy, I sure hope not.
 * }
 * お城が しんぱいですのう||Princess Peach's Castle.
 * ||Boy, I sure hope not.
 * }
 * }


 * The intersection part is "クリじい". The Mushroom Kingdom say it's just Goompa's name. Looks like it is... is it? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 10:30, 27 February 2015 (EST)

TTYD Completion Guide
In case you haven't seen this already, I stumbled upon this guide that lists all the items for each location in the Thousand-Year Door. You've done a great job listing all the items for Paper Mario, so this might just be up your alley. --Zootalo (talk) 01:44, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
 * That would be a great project to participate in. By the way, that guide has missed some special items such as Battle Trunks, and items got from characters such as Couple's Cake, so this wiki can be more comprehensive if we include them as well. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:20, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

Friends?
Can we be friends? Here's my userbox:

Thanks! 11:45, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

Paper Mario Item Drops
The item drops from the Stat/Attack Guide on GameFAQs should be as accurate as they come for WHAT is dropped, but there hasn't been anything for how often they do (I'm still waiting for a hacking tool that shows drop rates). Binary was working on that a bit a few weeks back but apparently wanted me to do it instead. =P Having said that, mentioning what items are dropped from enemies is fine; having another table (on top of "Items Found" and "hidden block locations") would otherwise make the pages look rather unkempt. That's my opinion anyway. --Zootalo (talk) 01:19, 11 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Thanks for your explanation, but I'd rather like to know if the list is comprehensive. For example, does "N/A" mean "there may be items dropped but hasn't been caught sight of", or "it's confirmed that there are no item drops"? And does "Mushroom" mean that items other than Mushrooms can't be dropped? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:20, 11 May 2015 (EDT)
 * I updated the bestiary so that it provides more information: enemies with "N/A" in their Items field means they don't drop coins or items because they're part of special (read:boss) battles, or are not present in the field (Swoopers, Medi Guys, White/Red/Green/Yellow/Gray Magikoopas, etc.), so they couldn't drop items anyway because only enemies on the field do. "None" means that while these enemies on the field can drop coins after a battle, they never drop items. And you're correct on the item types; any items listed in the field are all they drop (unless the guide is missing some information). --Zootalo (talk) 11:21, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

The guide says that most of the enemy information is correct, and this includes items. However, I was worried when I found this in the history section: Version 2.0 - December 2006. - Added some item drops for Duplighost and Lakitu.

Version 1.1 - August 2006. - Some additions to the item information for Bzzap!, Groove Guy, and Shy Guy. do you think it's 100% trustworthy now? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 02:13, 12 May 2015 (EDT)
 * To slightly interject here, if anyone wants, I could work on it, I only stopped briefly because my main focus was finding out what was dropped, now that I've done that, I could get actual statistics. Binarystep (talk) 02:24, 12 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Hello, Binary. Thanks for your interest, but I'd like to know if you can do this by looking into the coding of the game. Experimenting is a quite primitive way, someone has already started, and there's no proof that you have reached a happy ending, so in my opinion that's less desirable for me. It's also helpful, though, but if there is a way to hack into the game, I'd be happy to see that. Thanks again for stopping by! --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:33, 12 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Another thing I discovered (though I could've just been lucky) is that it seems like the non-respawning Dark Koopas in the room that you get trapped in after entering in the Toad Town Sewers always drop POW Blocks, unlike the others. Binarystep (talk) 12:28, 12 May 2015 (EDT)
 * It also seems that only the Shy Guys in the Blue Station's playroom (the ones that run from Mario) drop items. Binarystep (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2015 (EDT)

New Star Piece table
The new version of your table looks nice so far. I do like how Merluvlee's hints are collapsible, but I wish there was a way to change the default "show" to "show hint" -- some viewers may not get what the hidden text is (in case they didn't read the top row that mentions "Quotation" in the first place). Past that, it looks great!

Btw, something I wanted to have for the badge pages: a stylish (collapsible) description box that shows Merluvlee's hints, just like the Happy Mask Salesman's mask comment boxes as seen here. What do you think? --Zootalo (talk) 19:37, 16 May 2015 (EDT)


 * Hmmm, can't say I'm too familiar with collapsible tables, so I may not be able to help you there... I like the bottom iteration the most. I have a modified version here that shows a darker border, a lighter-colored text box, centered the text, and added quotation marks for them. Let me know what you think. --Zootalo (talk) 22:47, 16 May 2015 (EDT)


 * That actually looks much better, certainly cleaner looking than before (than what I had anyway). With the quotations merged with the image column, 300px images wouldn't be a bad idea. --Zootalo (talk) 00:00, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Paragoomba Mushroom Drop
How about that. If that wasn't a Spiked Goomba following Mario to that spot, I'd say that's pretty interesting (just like how Binarystep discovered that Spy Guys drop Pebbles -- items that aren't normally obtained until Chapter 7). You're free to make changes to the Paper Mario bestiary as you see fit, by the way - I didn't make it anyway; I only just gave it an overhaul and crammed it with info from Floogal's guide. =) --Zootalo (talk) 01:23, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

TTYD on Dolphin
Better late than never, but I'm about to do a data/image gathering run for TTYD using the Dolphin emulator. Been meaning to, so I can get enemy textures that Spriters Resource doesn't have (or the ones I need aren't around anymore from broken links) as well as taking screenshots for the hidden block guide. I could also take screenshots for Shine Sprite and Star Piece locations, too... What do you think? --Zootalo (talk) 16:04, 22 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Well, I'm not sure if you yourself have Dolphin, AglT. Again, I was mainly going to do this to retrieve hidden ? Block pictures and enemy textures. --Zootalo (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2015 (EDT)


 * The OCD side of me wanted to take more high-quality screenshots (like the one I uploaded), but I guess it doesn't make much of a difference if you were planning on taking screen captures anyway. =P Alright, I'll get going on my stuff soon, then. --Zootalo (talk) 00:36, 23 May 2015 (EDT)


 * Ah, sorry. lol What I meant was that I'll take care of just the hidden block locations. --Zootalo (talk) 00:52, 23 May 2015 (EDT)


 * I don't mind if you already renamed the image I uploaded. Those Star Piece images look so clean, btw. Did you take those yourself? --Zootalo (talk) 10:04, 23 May 2015 (EDT)


 * Yeah, I said I was going to just take care of the hidden blocks, but I snagged a few Rogueport Star Piece pics for you -- I'm still at the beginning of the game. My images are at 1024x768, I'm not sure if you wanted high-quality ones, though, as they'll all be shrunken down to 350px anyway. --Zootalo (talk) 12:39, 23 May 2015 (EDT)


 * Hmm, looks like you've got things in order, then. If you don't need further help (now that you have newer versions uploaded) then I'll focus on my image gathering. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing the Star Piece list when it's done! --Zootalo (talk) 23:22, 23 May 2015 (EDT)

Item lists
You did a great job with the lists of Shine Sprites and Star Pieces, AglT! Using the color schemes from the enemy formation pages was a nice touch. :) TTYD doesn't have many missable items, but in the Palace of Shadow, there's a hidden room containing an Ultra Shroom and a Jammin' Jelly that can be accessed by blowing up the eastern wall in Gloomtail's room with Bobbery -- you can only access this area until you use the Star Key in the Riddle Tower to collapse the palace's hallways. Another "missable" item is another Ultra Shroom in the Creepy Steeple when you open a box and a swarm of Boos fly out: answer "200" to the Boo, and he'll reward you with it. That's pretty much it. If you really wanted to list EVERYTHING you can collect, you could also list hidden single coins found in bushes and trees, too. =P --Zootalo (talk) 23:59, 19 June 2015 (EDT)
 * I came up with the color schemes myself, but you don't need to credit me for that. ;) --Zootalo (talk) 10:24, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

Screenshots
Actually, I've progressed so far into the game that I won't be able to snag a screenshot of the "You got a Shine Sprite!" text as I've already collected all the Shine Sprites. I might have an older savestate I could use to dig it up for you, though. Also, would you need English text for the Star Piece screenshots for Paper Mario as well? --Zootalo (talk) 10:45, 29 June 2015 (EDT)

TTYD Hidden Block lists
I'm getting to that right now. --Zootalo (talk) 01:07, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

Response about Excess Express
Sorry about the late response, I don't check the wiki very often. I completely forgot I wrote that, and I haven't replayed TTYD in ages so I don't really remember anything! Sorry about that! --Pyro (talk) 9:19, 11 July 2015 (EDT)

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy list
Really? They seem fine to me as the Paper Mario ones (unless they look way too pixelated). --Zootalo (talk) 11:24, 1 August 2015 (EDT)

RE:IP
No, you share two IPs, both of which start with a 107.
 * I don't know if they're American IPs, it's likely your proxy IPs have just overlapped. I'm content that you two users are different people, so no further action will be required.

Item charts
It's up to you, really. I haven't found any templates here that deal with content that might be missing, or anything that says that disclaimers for item lists can't be mentioned either. The only things that would be "missing" from your item lists for the Paper Mario series would be single coins hidden in bushes and tress. --Zootalo (talk) 10:49, 15 August 2015 (EDT)

Table within table
Yeah, the second version was what I was going for, but I wish there was a way not to have the inner chart inside a cell (because of all that space), but rather as its own collapsible section (like those in infoboxes)... --Zootalo (talk) 23:29, 10 October 2015 (EDT)

Re:Redirects
When I figured that redirects needed to be changed, I was overwhelmed by the workload alone, and I thought it's pretty much up to me to do them, and I haven't done anything, so I thought it would take quite a while to get done! Anyhow, thanks for that, that was a real nice gesture there. While it is possible to host maintenance-related requests, I'm afraid that little will actually be done, although we do hold wiki collaborations in our forums some which do involve simple, but tedious gnomework like this one.

I'm a bit iffy on turning the process into an automatic one, though. Are you sure such processes might generate some errors like false positives and give staff members another layer of work they'll have to keep in mind, such as deleting those pages? I haven't heard of this software being used in any other MediaWiki site I frequent through so I don't know if this is just recent or just not as popular as the current way of manually updating redirects and disambiguation pages. It seems like a lot of work to set up the define template in the first place, and I'm not sure if the payoff in the end is going to make up for it. I'd like to see how wikis that do make use of it handle this, though. 13:35, 1 April 2016 (EDT)