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Split or Merge Mario Kart Tour's Pallet Swaps
Okay, this has been on my mind for a bit now and it's largely in part to the Red Spike Top proposal going on. Red Spike Tops are considered being merged because they feature no distinct differences from Spike Tops other than their shell color. Despite opposing, I can see the logic behind this; they are pallet swaps and, for the most part, pallet swaps are naturally kept together in the parent species article. This got the gears in my brain turning and I realized that we have articles for pallet swapped karts and gliders from Mario Kart Tour, but we don't have articles for the pallet swapped characters. The karts and gliders have their own articles because they have different special skills, Favorite Courses and Favored Courses, but it strikes me as odd that the characters don't get the same treatment, despite having the same differences. I made a whole work page detailing as much as I could, but perhaps diving into the entire pallet swap deal as a whole would be a bit of a big jump. So I propose we start with Mario Kart Tour, a game that I feel has an ongoing inconsistency with the idea. Karts and Gliders have their own articles, pallet swap or not, but the characters do not. So I propose one of three options:


 * Split Pallet Swapped Characters: This option would be to split the characters that are mere color swaps: Yoshis, Shy Guys, Pit Crew Toads, Birdos, Freerunning Koopas and the golden variants (Dry Bones, King Boo etc). These articles would only cover their appearances in Mario Kart Tour for now and not the appearances in games such the Mario Baseball series or Mario Sports Superstars. They would be consistent with the pallet swapped karts and gliders, which all have their own articles. For now, I think this should be limited to the colored pallet swaps only rather than the actual characters dressed up in themed outfits, unless people think those would be strong enough to have their own articles too.


 * Merge Pallet Swapped Karts/Gliders: This option is obviously the opposite. Karts and gliders would be merged into their the articles of the karts and gliders they are based on, much like how the characters are currently handled. Examples would include the B Dasher variants to the B Dasher article, the Pumpkin Kart and it's gold variant to the Apple Kart and such. This would not apply to the Gold Glider or Gold Standard, as both have previously appeared in Mario Kart 7 and 8, as well as the Gold Standard only appearing in Gold Rush mode in Tour and not being a fully usable kart anyway.


 * Do Nothing: Nothing happens and wiki life continues as normal.

Proposer: Deadline: January 27, 2022, 23:59 GMT

Split Mario Kart Tour Pallet Swap Characters

 * 1) This is personally my preferred option. It remains consistent with the karts and gliders by only covering their appearance in Mario Kart Tour, providing articles covering the same differences as the karts and gliders do.

Merge Mario Kart Tour Pallet Swap Karts/Gliders

 * 1) This would be my secondary choice, as merging them would make them more consistent with how we treat the costumed characters.

Do Nothing

 * 1) I kind of agree with the sentiment behind this proposal, but I feel like it simultaneously doesn't go far enough in some areas and too far in others. If the split articles only cover Mario Kart Tour that'll not only be very inconsistent with other color variants that got articles but feel very arbitrary (why does Red Yoshi's appearance in Tour only get coverage when there's also stat differences, SMW powers etc.? That's just one example). At the same time I don't know how many of these need to be split, breaking up the Roving Racers into multiple pages (which again, wouldn't cover Odyssey for some reason) feels kind of unnecessary. More importantly: How would this affect costume swaps? They're not mentioned here, but for all intents and purposes, the difference between Wario and Wario (Hiker) is the same as Yoshi and Blue Yoshi. I'm all for reconsidering our stance on giving articles to palette swaps, and at the very least I'd like to see the Yoshi merge reversed, but this isn't the way to do it, I think.
 * 2) Per Waluigi Time.
 * 3) This would be way too excessive.

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@Waluigi Time: The main reason I'm choosing to cover Tour only right now is because it's got a very simple, kinda enclosed solution. As I mentioned, diving into all sorts of pallet swaps deals with a lot more than just the Yoshis or Shy Guys; it could steer into RPG enemies as well, as they also feature pallet swaps and different stats. Trust me, I'd fully support splitting the Yoshis back into their separate articles because of their multiple appearances with differences (as you mentioned, Super Mario World). But because that topic covers so much, I thought it would be a hard and somewhat complicated place to start. So I thought of covering Tour only because the solutions are more simple to work with. Additionally, I do address the idea of costumed alternates, being something that could also qualify if people think they should. I would also support the idea, because like the colored pallet swaps, karts and gliders, they feature the same differences.
 * It's not as simple as you think. I mean, you want to do this for consistency, but doing it creates multiple blatant inconsistencies as Waluigi Time said, not to mention the arbitrariness of splitting only the palette swaps and not alternate costumes like Detective Baby Rosalina. Sometimes a "simple" solution just doesn't cut it. Also, you're spelling "palette" wrong, we're not talking about a town in Pokémon. 20:23, January 20, 2022 (EST)

What's your opinion on Goo-Goo Buggy/Rattle Buggy, Red Fire/Green Fire, Heart Coach/Bloom Coach, Piranha Pipes/Boo Pipes, Light Tripper/Light Dancer as well as the StandardXX articles (like Standard BW)? 20:21, January 20, 2022 (EST)

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