MarioWiki:Proposals

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How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
 * 10) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
 * 11) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Music
Maybe we should have a section where you can hear the original music and how it has changed over the years to the more recent Mario style. This would require the music to play in Super Mario Wiki instead of just linking to it (like galbiana hotel or whatever it is). I know Wikipedia uses OGG for its music... Thoughts?
 * Ok, ok. The OGG was only a suggestion. I would personally prefer MP3 or WMA, the format doesnt matter.
 * Also, this proposal is now officially stating that the music would need to be activated (i.e. clicked on) in order to run. That way, people with slower computers would not get clogged on every page unless they wanted to hear the tunes.

Proposer: Macewindu Deadline::December 24, 2007, 17:00

Let's try it!

 * 1) Madhatter9max - See below.
 * 2) Macewindu - see below.
 * 3) G-Money 11:42, 18 December 2007 (EST) I don't have something to play .OOG files and when I try to install it, my computer freeses up!

No way!

 * 1) Walkazo - See below comment.
 * 2) I am in total agreement with Walkazo on this. First of all, not many people are able to upload .ogg files, so that poses as an issue. Galbadia Hotel is very reliable, as it is NOT mostly remixes. A lot of their music are ripped from official games or soundtracks, so we can link to that site. Now, VGMusic is the website that is all remixes. And, as Walkazo said, we don't want to alienate those with slow internet.
 * 3) Listening to how the music changed over the years/ That sounds complicated and useless, were an Encyclopedia!
 * 4) InfectedShroom.[[Image:infectoicon.png]] Per Everyone. OGG sucks, and playing them straight from the wiki would be slow and might not even work on some computers. Sure, I like my Video Game music, but no to the straight up files. And GH is EXTREMELY reliable.
 * 5) - Per all. It makes no sense for it to be on a MARIOWiki even if it is Mario music.
 * 6)  per Walkazo
 * 7)  per Walkazo

Comments
Don't forget to vote yourself, Macewindu. Anyway, being able to compare music through the ages does sound like a good idea, but we should stick with links out of the Wiki. It's just like with videos: people with slow computers may encounter difficulties with the extra features. The Wiki's for everyone, after all. - Walkazo

I'm supporting because you have to click on it for it to work or not so you know what you're in for. there's galbadia hotel but it's mostly remixes from what I've seen and also vgmusic.com as reliable sources for me. the songs show the depth and evolution of each game and are certainly a landmark to be included. I'm in support as long as each song doesn't try to start automatically.Madhatter9max 01:31, 18 December 2007 (EST)

Right on madhatter9max! I will only support it if each song doesnt try to start automatically. This would get kind of annoying (like how all the videos start on youtube every time a window is openned). Also, The format need not be OGG. I said that only because Wikipedia uses that. If we used MP3 or WMA, or both that would be much better. I currently have all Mario Party 7 gamerip music with me in one folder, so we wouldnt have to download EVERY SINGLE ONE from Galbadia. Macewindu 08:41, 18 December 2007 (EST)

Now that the former questions have been addressed, Pokemon DP and Walkazo, any other concerns or do you agree?

Two comments: a) GHotel isn't all remixes, some of them are correctly ripped, b) I am not certain if there is an extension to directly play files internally. 16:01, 18 December 2007 (EST)


 * ???-Um, Galbadia is entirely correctly ripped. I dont think there is any remixes. I was just saying that, instead of downloading them one by one...never mind. This part is trivial. We need to decide if the dumb thing is a good idea first.Macewindu 16:32, 18 December 2007 (EST)

Nope, you covered everything I didn't DP, but thanks for asking! - Walkazo
 * What? I didn't ask you anything. =|


 * No,no,no. I was asking if either of you have anything else against this or do you agree with it?Macewindu 07:03, 19 December 2007 (EST)
 * Then you shouldn't've started a new paragraph after signing the first part of your comment. Since I couldn't tell it was still you talking and I knew I didn't write that, I figured it was the only other name in the message. I know DP uses a real signature here, but I was having and off-day and automatically ignored the irregularity of it all... - Walkazo

alrite everyone I was just saying Galbadia is mostly remixes from what I've seen I'm sure there are actual scores and everything I just wanted to post a possible disclaimer. also: who cres if it wastes too much time? theres enough people out there willing to upload songs so that it won't waste your time. even wikipedia has music samples on there. since we're more exclusive to Mario than they are why don't we put up more info? it's not pointless, there are plenty of people that randomly wonder what songs are what and this would make it much easier for them to find the song without having to download. Madhatter9max 23:58, 19 December 2007 (EST)
 * I concur.Macewindu 10:16, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * For what I seen. Galbadia is entirely official songs ('cept for the MIDI section, which link directly to Vgmusic) since all the musics are directly ripped from a promotional album, and even some times, from the actual game. On the other hand, VGmusic is entirely remix.

Blitzwing, I don't think the point about less powerful computers is really right, Wikipedia itself use sound samples in some of their articles, and I am sure they are as cautious as us when it come to low-tech computer.
 * How about an example of one of these pages? - Walkazo
 * You mean a page with sound sample on Wikipedia? Well, there's this page.

Blitzwing

As far as I know, GH doesn't have any Mario Galaxy tunes at the moment. User:firemario


 * Thanks for the example Blitzwing, but my computer won't run it! Looks like Wikipedia's not so cautious after all... - Walkazo

Removals
None at the moment.

Galleries
So I was viewing the site and noticed that a whole bunch the pages (notably Wario) has a section devoted to images, though recently they've been a little too big. I propose that we create galleries for specific characters and merge the images ove there. For example, maybe we could have a page called "Gallery: Wario" or something similar and merge all of the images over there. Or possibly just make a category called "Category: Wario images" and have all the images there for people to view. It seems like there are over 100 images on the page, and I'm sure many will agree that they should all be merged to their own page.

Proposer: Bentendo Deadline::December 31, 2007, 17:00

Make galleries

 * 1) --Bentendo 11:41, 24 December 2007 (EST) My reasons above!
 * 2) Blitzwing Save article space.
 * 3) - Similar to the quotes, those get really to long on articles like Princess Peach.
 * 12:41, 24 December 2007 (EST)Category idea seems better than an article just for images.
 * 1) Walkazo - Those image galleries take up too much time and memory to load, having them on seperate pages like quotes is a good idea.
 * 2) -Per everyone.

Comments
Knife: Images in a "Wario Image Category" but not on a page will be marked as unused and destroyed by the devorous Unused Image predators. - 14:32, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Hmmm, would we keep any images on the page?
 * We would only remove the images galleries (official artwork/screenshot galliers), the images in the written article itself stay. - 16:03, 24 December 2007 (EST)

As an aside, many wiki will create gallery-lists when images are placed in a gallery. I tried this once before, and it seems that it doesn't work around here. -- Chris 14:46, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Merging Pumpkin Head with Goomba
Pumpkin Heads are absolutely proven to Goombas wearing Pumkins on their heads, so does this make them a new species altogether? No. Listen to the comment I wrote on its talk page over a week ago: ''Should this have its own article? Goombas have worn many things for protection, but wearing a pumpkin head doesn't make one a new species. Its like saying that Mario is another character when he doesn't wear his overalls. And I'm pretty sure Nintendo didn't give it an official name since it wasn't meant to be a new enemy altogether. If you will remember, there were also Goombas with helmets that can be killed almost the same way. I'm sure they wear pumpkins just to give to level a spooky feel.'' It doesn't even have an official name! But I'll leave it up to you guys to decide.

Merge Information

 * 14:51, 22 December 2007 (EST) My reasons are given above
 * 1) Blitzwing Per Knife.
 * 2) Walkazo - Per Knife.
 * 3) - Per Knife. The name isn't even official.
 * 4) If there's no name, then chances are Nintendo meant for them to be one and the same. (RHYMELOLZORZ)
 * 5) THANK YOU.  Just thinking the same thing a few weeks ago.

Comments
This can also be applied to Mask Koopas. - Walkazo
 * Well, unlike the Pumpking head, the Mask Koopas actually have an official name. (Or do they?)

Blitzwing
 * Yeah, they should only be merged if the name is conjectural. So, Pumpkin Heads = Merge with Goomba. Mask Koopa = Keep split if the name is official.
 * Bah, people put too much weight into whether things have official names or not. Ever stopped to consider that all the "conjectually named" things might actually have official names over in the Nintendo databanks? The sprites have to be saved somewhere; sure they'll probably have serial numbers and such, but they're probably named too; it'd be a bit silly if they weren't... - Walkazo

Changes
None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.