Talk:Mega Mushroom

Green Mushroom
Why is that green image of that mushroom is there if it has the own article. Isn't called the Super Mega Mushroom Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:01, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Yeah you're right but umm I think they put that there because it might be related to the Super Mushroom.

Nonono, thats what it looked like in Mario Party 4. It looked different then. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions?

Split the Mario Party 4 Mega Mushroom from this Page
Currently, we have the Mario Party 4 and New Super Mario Bros. versions of the Mega Mushroom here. According to this Page, the Mega Mushroom's Japanese name is 巨大キノコ (Kyodaikinoko, Huge Mushroom). This is possibly the NSMB version, because of the Japanese name of Mega Mario on this page of the Japanese NSMB site. But according to this page of the Japanese Mario Party 4 site, it isn't the same as the Mario Party 4 version (I guess), where the MP4 version is called デカキノコ (Dekakinoko (Deka is a Japanese word to describe something large)). As the appearances of both Mushrooms are also different (NSMB version is very huge and has a even bigger yellow cap (with red spots), MP4 version is normal-sized, and green-capped (with white spots)), and we've done several splits and merges because of the Japanese names before, I think this should be split as well.

Proposer: Deadline: February 7, 2012 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per me
 * 2) - If they have different names in other countries, then I guess they should be different. Per Arend.

Oppose

 * 1) As  explained here, the effects are the same; only the appearance has changed, and I don't think that and the different names are enough to warrant a split.
 * 2) Per what I said on the other proposal
 * 3) Per Tails777.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per Tails777.
 * 6) Per Tails777.
 * 7) Per all

Comments
If it is split, is there enough info on the MP4 Mega Mushroom to keep it from being a stub?

Short articles do not necessarily mean a stub. A stub is simply an article with inadequate information, that is, not enough information. If we cannot expand the article anymore, yet it is a few sentences long, then it is not a stub. 19:37, 25 January 2012 (EST)


 * What I meant was, is there enough info on it to make it into an article?
 * Yes, there is. But's more logical to keep it as it is

Big Mushroom also a type of Mega Mushroom?
So with few exceptions, subjects that simply go by different sizes like Micro/Mini/Small Goomba and Big/Mega Block are treated interchangeably. Can this mean that the Big Mushroom from the Super Mario Maker games is effectively the Mega/Giant Mushroom? Going by the Japanese names Mega Mushroom has had over the years (Deka/Mega/Kyodai), it certainly fits in line, with Deka Kinoko also being used for Big Mushroom (slightly different spelling but that's common). Big Mario might have several mechanical differences from Mega Mario, but so does Balloon Mario, and for just the inverse, Fire Mario was also a timed effect in the Super Mario Galaxy games. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:03, May 22, 2020 (EDT)
 * Yeah that makes sense. But at what point do they become too different? 13:23, May 22, 2020 (EDT)
 * Well, the second Ice Mario was marketed as a new power-up and the first so far has really nothing in common with it (besides maybe the fact that the Ice Flower provides ice balls in Mario Kart Tour). As far as I know, Big Mushroom or Big Mario weren't called new, and Big Mario's main difference is that it trades timed gameplay for vulnerability. I should also add that the aesthetic of Big Mario seems directly inspired by the version of Mega Mario in Super Paper Mario. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:56, May 22, 2020 (EDT)
 * Ok yeah, that makes sense, so yeah, maybe they should be merged. 13:59, May 22, 2020 (EDT)
 * Also, something of interest when I was looking at internal names for the flies in Super Mario Maker is that the files in content/Pack/Sound.pack refer to "BigKinoko" (separate from "SuperKinoko") but the files in content/Pack/StaticSkin.pack (main object graphics) refer to "Megakinoko" and "MegaMario". Part of the reason for this might be because there's an odd mix of Japanese and English-based internal names - for example, the enemy names are all romanizations of the Japanese names, but the Costume Mario suits in content/Model use several English localizations like "Charizard", "MegaMan</tt>" and "Robin</tt>". Either way, Mega Mushroom tends to be internally named "KinokoBig</tt>" or something similar in other games such as Super Mario 3D World. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:35, July 23, 2020 (EDT)
 * Sadly, merging these two is out of the question. The now-defunct Super Mario Maker website explicitly states that Big Mario bridges the gap between the Super and Mega forms. I can't remember the exact quote offhand, but I'd be happy to find it on Wayback Machine and post it should anyone happen to ask. 22:03, September 13, 2020 (EDT)
 * An exact quote would be pretty important since I made sure to check sources like that for any such statements. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:50, September 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Still looking around for it. In the meantime, even if that quote didn't exist, I would still oppose this merge. 11:42, September 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Big Mushrooms are Big Mushrooms and not Mega Mushrooms. For starters, Mega Mushrooms are temporary, while Big Mushrooms last until the player gets hit or dies. Secondly, players that collected a Mega Mushroom will destroy anything in their path, while players that collected a Big Mushroom can only break types of blocks and activate POW Blocks and ON/OFF Switches just by landing on it. These are my points; feel free to disagree.