MarioWiki:Proposals

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To Rules
 * 1) If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and Writing Guideline proposals must include a link to the draft page.
 * 2) Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals, which run for two weeks. (All times GMT.)
 * 3) *For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
 * 4) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
 * 5) Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
 * 6) If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
 * 7) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 8) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 9) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 10) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 11) Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
 * 12) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 13) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived.
 * 14) If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
 * 15) There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
 * 16) Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
 * 17) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. - ===[insert a title for your Proposal here]=== [describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

Proposer: Deadline: [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT. (14 days for Talk Page Proposals.)]

====Support====
 * 1) [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments==== - Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert " # at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.


 * For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

Rules
 * 1) All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place  under the heading.
 * 2) All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
 * 3) Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
 * 4) *For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
 * 5) Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
 * 6) The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge Snowball Yoshi and Ski Yoshi (Discuss) Deadline: May 7, 2012, 23:59 GMT
 * Split Goomba Tower from Goomba (Discuss) Deadline: May 8, 2012, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Dart Board with Darts of Doom (Discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Make articles for all the sports in the Mario series
The Mario series has a huge variety of sports games, but what I don't understand is why we don't have articles for all the various sports that feature in mario games aside from the events in the Mario & Sonic series. These sports are the entire plotline of some games so I think they warrant articles. Some users may think that sports games don't warrant articles and fall under Generic subjects but the sports meet several of the exceptions to this rule. The sports games have significant differences to their Real World subjects (such as power-ups etc.) and are significant to the game's gameplay and storyline. (I know one of those says it doesn't apply to sports games but I think that should be removed. Proposer: Deadline: May 11, 2012 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal

Oppose

 * 1) Can't we have the sports mentioned in the game where it appeared itself? After all, games such as Mario Strikers Charged or Mario Super Sluggers focus only on one sport. I think rules of sports such as baseball or football should be explained in their respective articles where they are focused in.

Change FA Nominations
A recent proposal by addressed the problem of stagnant Featured Article nominations. I supported that proposal (although I didn't vote), and this proposal is related to that. I'd like nominations to act more like proposals. This is what that would work like: If an FA nomination has more support votes than opposes six weeks after nomination, it is sent to the administrators, who evaluate it, a process which I think would take about a week. If they decide the article is worthy to be a featured article, they feature it. The same process would also be used for unfeaturing nominations.

Proposer: Deadline: May 5, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) I support my proposal.
 * 2) I think this is a good idea.

Oppose

 * 1) - I don't see how this would act like the proposal system at all: Proposals don't require backroom admin discussions to pass, and neither should FAs. Let the users who care about the pages make the call, rather than forcing all that extra work on the admins, most of whom would have had nothing to do with the pages' nominations until that point anyway.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo.
 * 3) I don't see much of a similarity to proposals nor do I think this will improve FA nominations
 * 4) I like the way it is, even though there is barely any activity in the nomination pages. Besides, not only the administrators get more work, they get "authority" over the users. In this wiki, administrators are basically "trusted" users with limits lifted, not users granted with privileges and power.
 * 5) Per Walkazo.
 * 6) This makes little sense an article can't be featured if someone opposes it because that oppose vote has to be valid otherwise it would be removed so basically doing this could allow articles that don't meet the FA standards to be featured.
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) Per Walkazo and Raven :)
 * 10) – Per all.
 * 11) Per Walkazo.

Comments
Although I like the idea of administrators having to see the merits of an article about to be featured so we know that they are aware of the process (I can't tell if they are aware if they don't vote), I don't like how administrators seem to get more authority in determining the status of an article. Hmm, I'm mixed on this.
 * I don't think you should force them to decide some of them probably don't care (plus it forces them to go through the process for articles that clearly aren't ready but have a lot of fan votes)

The Redirects to Trophy and its subpages
While searching for redirects, I found one that linked to Trophy. It was a redirect for one of the Super Smash Bros. trophies. Out of curiosity, I checked to see how many of these redirects currently existed. I ended up finding twenty of these redirects for Trophy, one redirect for Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Melee), and four redirects for Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl). I'll create a full list in the comments section. In my opinion, these redirects are pretty much unnecessary. I mean, anyone that's looking for information on these trophies will get, word for word, the same information they could of gotten in the games themselves. Also, as of now, it's inconcistent. There are 293 trophies for Super Smash Bros. Melee and 544 trophies for Super Smash Bros. Brawl, while there are currently only 25 redirects. Even if we take away the trophies that we already have articles on, there's still quite a few more creatable redirects, and some redirects, like the Pokémon trophies, could potentially redirect to somewhere else. I'll make three options: delete the current redirects, create new redirects for the other trophies, or do nothing.

Proposer: Deadline: May 12, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Delete Redirects

 * 1) I support my proposal.
 * 2) These redirects are redundant. Items such as Badges and Gear are understandable because they are their own separate entity with mainly unique benefits. Trophies are collectibles in Super Smash Bros. Collectibles like these do not get redirects and I doubt anyone will use these current redirects to search for trophies they are looking for. Delete them.

Comments
And here is the list of redirects that this proposal could affect:

* These three are supposed to be merged into a bigger article, along with Colonel Roy Campbell, Mei Ling, and Otacon, but I didn't know how to make this article.
 * To Trophy
 * Ayumi Tachibana
 * Donbe & Hikari
 * Donbe and Hikari
 * Ducks
 * Diskun
 * K.K. Slider
 * Totakeke
 * Annie
 * Ray MK II
 * Bayonette
 * Hate Giant
 * Love Giant
 * Herinin
 * Balloon Fighter
 * Kensuke Kimachi
 * Ryota Hayami
 * Maruo Maruhige
 * Misty
 * Professor Oak
 * K.K
 * To Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Melee)
 * Turtle (Super Smash Bros.)
 * To Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)
 * Tom Nook
 * Leon Powalski*
 * Krystal*
 * Panther Caroso*