MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/dessert1.jpg A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 10) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 11) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 12) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 13) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
 * 14) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 15) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 16) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 17) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

New Features
''None at the moment.

More Than A Joke
Over on Bulbapedia, they've recently created a rule that doesn't allow the fake "new messages" box template. And I think we should have that rule too. It was OK to start off with, but it's like that "Uranus" joke- IT'S GETTING OLD, VERY ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN REMOTELY FUNNY! Almost every User Page I go on, I see a fake "New messages" box that gets me excited, but then I put my cursor over it and it says it leads to a random page, or the "Special: Mytalk" page. They are absolutely meaningless, and it makes our Wiki look like a load of pranksters. To cut a long story short, it makes us look bad, and if somebody was thinking of joining, they might be misled into thinking that they'll just get teased a lot. So, let's get rid of those templates on User Pages!

Proposer: Deadline: July 18, 2009, 20:00

Support

 * 1) Because I made this proposal, I'm in. Read the description for my reason!
 * 2) I hate those fake boxes.
 * 3) Per all.I rarely get a message, and when I see that banner, I get all excited, then before I know it, I'm on some YouTube page or something.
 * 4) You know what? I now agree. This is a joke, it was funny at first, but now it's just gotten annoying. Some of us have slower older computers as it is, why should we have to be subject to unnecessary slow loading time just because another user thought it would be funny? It also sparks too much false hope into us when we go ahead and see that it was fake. Perhaps we should allow boxes that do not have misleading text.
 * 5) Per all; it isn't even funny. While I have never clicked a link on one of these fake 'new messages' boxes, it is very easy to accidentally click it out of excitement. And it's very easy to link it to a page or website that is innapropriate, and that user who clicked the link out of misfortune would be forced to see it. And that's just NOT RIGHT!
 * 6) I seriously hate them. I didn't care for them until I clicked on one. It sucks when your expecting a message and it shows one, and leads to that one youtube singer. Who would do this, it's torture!
 * 7) per all, I'm sick of them.
 * 8) I've been there before, and I don't want that to happen to other people. Per all.
 * 9) Concise version: It's troublesome and not even funny, thus failing the definition of 'joke'. And per Leirin, as it could link to a page that, while not inappropriate, may cause trouble for that user in some way.

Oppose

 * 1) - It's become sort of a tradition, and so many people have it, so it would be hard to get rid of them all.
 * 2) Per Ralpfan,The fake message box is nothing more than a harmless joke.
 * 3) I am Zero! Yes, it's just a harmless joke and plus before you click on it, it will tell you where will you go, and who cares about that, that is more like your personal promblem and you can click the last page button anytime. But, there should be a rule about not makeing fake messages that make you log out. Zero signing out.
 * 4) - The last wiki that copied Bulbapedia got caught in a huge vandalism war because Bulbapedia has over 10,000 users and lots of them really like it (I was one of the people who pointed out the similarities between the two wiki's pokemon platinum articles, yes I used to edit there under Pokemonguy1, see any similarities?). Anyhow, I don't want to enter into the same predicament that they were in.
 * 5) per all. If some user wants to act like s/he is 7 years old with the Uranus joke then let them
 * 6) per all. harmless fun that gives you a good feeling to fall for, just like rick-rolling.

Comments
Maybe, I said MAYBE, we could make it against the rules to log users out with that thing, doing that is actually annoying -
 * Yeah, per Marioguy1.

I am Zero! A pokemon wikia, I HATE WIKIAS, I just wish that all wikias are deleted except for the ones that don't have a good/wiki counterpart. Zero signing out.
 * Actually Zero, a wikia is a collaboration of all subjects, if the Pokémon and Mario wikis are deleted, how will that be a collaboration of all subjects? -

This is (perhaps) the only good Proposal I've seen this year. Shame on all of you for opposing it. It's almost as unfunny as being rickrolled.

Rickrolling is hilarious, Gamer2.1 does it to everybody, all you have to do is press the back button (yeesh, can't even take a joke)
 * Those who find rickrolling and fake New Messages funny are sad, sad people. That's why I'm retired from this sad, sad place. The immaturity is unbearable here.
 * Takes one to know one, See ya!
 * Nobody is forced to visit other user's pages. Our goal is not to talk to each other and have a funny user page, but to write articles. It's fine having your own user space and putting a lot of cool stuff on your page and all, but if you say you retired because of some jokes on user sites, you didn't take the actual goal of the wiki very serious. -

you hate immaturiaty and yet you have a wombat with a mario hat on your page, Dom? the word "fail" springs to mind....Lu-igi board 13:08, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
 * You're saying this and yet you nominate rubbish images for FI and write down 'great picture :)' even though 95% of the time, they are not. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is Lu-igi board. And besides, St00by made them for him because he's Australian.
 * Still, Dom accepted them and Lu-igi Board is not immature, great image is very well a reason to support an image and will you please remind me when your opinion of an image (oor even 500 people's opinions) were Lu-igi Bosrd's?
 * If you must, continue this discussion on your talk pages, but not here. Thanks.
 * OK, see my talk page!

KangaFlora: Do you know what we're talking about?

The Subspace Emissary
The Subspce Emissary needs its own article. It would be good because the Super Smash Bros. Brawl article is SO long.

Proposer: Deadline: July 22, 2009, 19:00

Support

 * 1) Marioguy, Luvluv was right to propose it here, you are only supposed to split with community approval.
 * 2) It'd be an easy split, and it would clean up the huge article that is Brawl.
 * 3) - Well sorry, I thought she just wanted to make the article, not split it! Why wouldn't I support it? Per all.
 * 4) - Agreed, it would be nice to actually go through the Brawl without reading for days. Please make the split.
 * 5) Per Baby Mario Bloops

Comments
Then make it, don't propose, just do it

It's been its own article before. Then, Knife redirected it with the comment: "ummm.. it is Brawl's adventure mode, and we decided to keep modes in the game articles, as they retract a lot of content from it. (also, read the name under Subspace Emissary, it does indeed say adven" --

I'm not sure but won't this affect Brawl's FA status?
 * Is Benji's oppose vote even legal? I'm sorry Benji, I think your vote should be removed. There is no real reason for it. 22:49, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Amend No-Signature Policy
Ok, I guess I'll be the first to propose to amend the No-Signature Policy. I have looked around and have already seen an incident happen when it came across signing: A particular system of signing that is often referred to as Signing Without a Signature (S.W.A.S.). I would like to propose the question: For pages that follow the No-Signature policy, do we allow "S.W.A.S.", or do we not allow it? Proposer: Deadline: Wednesday, 23 July 2009, 17:00

Allow S.W.A.S.

 * This is getting ridiculous. The reason we have the No Signature policy is that some signatures (those with images or too much coding) crash some people's computers. Sigs in the XYZ format, however, are totally harmless. Why propose rules that do absolutely nothing but limit our liberty? BTW, neither the proposer (SMB) nor Marioguy1 gave any reasons for why not to allow "S.W.A.S.", so I really can't follow your ideas.
 * 1) - Per Time Q. The user template is actually bigger than a regular link to your userpage.
 * 2) I am Zero! See, I did one, well to the point, it's just a harmless saying/idea (I hope I spelled harmless right). Another reason why to allow users to use S.W.A.S. is, in some cases users forget to put there username and that is where a S.W.A.S. comes in, when someone reads the S.W.A.S. they will know who wrote there, so far everybody who use S.W.A.S. are different from each other, and plus it's another way to express themselves. Plus a S.W.A.S. doesn't alter votes or counts so there is no point to remove it. P.S. S.W.A.S. actually stands for Signature Without a Signature, and I was also originally going to call it S.I.A.S (Signature In A Sentance) but it didn't sound correct. Zero signing out.

Don't Allow S.W.A.S.

 * 1) I don't think we should allow it for the No-sig policy because it is easier to access a user's page and talk page if they provide links as opposed to just words.

Comments
Once again, this is related to a particular incident, I am not inventing the idea for no reason. Also, I'm not voting just yet, I want to see the way most users vote.
 * Marioguy, that was the incident I was referring to.  LOL 
 * It was? OMG!
 * Yeah. I used this page right here (what a small world we all live in).

Marioguy1, please give a reason for your vote.
 * By the way, Time Q, I do not actually have an opinion on whether it should be allowed or not, I just want it added to the Policy so no more confusion goes on. Also, S.W.A.S., if I'm correct, uses no coding with no links. The policy already considers signing with  Whatever  a correct form of signing, perhaps I didn't quite understand the situation... 18:32, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
 * I did give a reason, I yelled at a guy and then got yelled at, I don't like being yelled at!
 * I don't believe not wanting to get yelled at is a valid reason to oppose the proposal.

I don't get what's this proposal is about. Honestly. --Glowsquid 07:13, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
 * SpriteYoshi voted because of Marioguy1's invalid reasons. Should we remove both the votes?
 * I don't know, do what you think is right.

Upcoming Tournaments
The wiki has suffered greatly when it comes to user tournaments, either they are cancelled due to inactive leadership or not enough participants. The latter is likely because many users have no idea a Tourney's going on! I propose something like this under "help us Maintain This Page":



(it would also be accompanied by a date and time)

Proposer: Deadline: July 22, 2009, 17:00

Support

 * 1) - Sorry, I was a little distracted, anyhow I support this proposal! Advertising tournaments will draw more users around just so they can participate in them.
 * 2) I am Zero! Good idea, I had no idea user tournaments exist. Zero signing out.
 * 3) Per WarioLoaf.
 * 4) Great idea! I didn't even know there were tournaments going on, and this will definitely get users in the know.
 * 5) - All Right! This will make users participate tourneys, and shows dates easily.
 * 6) per all.
 * Yes,we should because a friend had to tell me about it.
 * 1) I am the tournament for one and only one reason. Its to know some users better! It's fun, enjoyable, the cursing when you lose(to bad no other user will hear you). Why not, what is the harm? Hmm, Hmm? I thought so.
 * 2) Per SMB
 * 1) Per SMB

Comments
I don't get it...
 * Whats not to get? it advertises upcoming tourneys for users to attend! --
 * Oooh, why don't you vote on any FA? I don't care, just vote!!!
 * Uh, what has voting on FAs to do with this proposal? Please stay on topic.