MarioWiki:Proposals

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Delete Meaningless Quotes
Yeah I know we went through this before but it was different because it was going to delete entire pages. I'm tweaking that to say keep the pages, but delete meaningless quotes. For example:


 * Useful quotes: "Oh, did I win?" "Let's go already!"


 * Meaningless quotes: "Yes!" "Woohoo!"

In essence, quotes that are only used by one character (Peach and Waluigi, respectively) will stay. Generic quotes (So many Mario characters say "Yes!" in Mario Party and Mario Kart) will be deleted.

Proposer: Deadline: Sept. 9, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) I'm ZonkMario64, and I approve this proposal.
 * 2) YES PLEASE! It's so annoying having a "quotes" page full of stuff like "yay" "woohoo" and "yeah" to name a few. Per proposal.

Comments
I'm pretty sure there already was a proposal enacted to curb these things? Or I swear there already is a guideline that specifically advocates removal of "YES WHOOOOHOOOO" quotes. 16:15, 2 September 2015 (EDT)


 * Yes, but it was vetoed by admins because it would "strip the wiki of valuable information." SM64 Mario Sidekick.png Don't Get Zonked!  Question Block 3D.png (blabbing &middot; what i do) 16:16, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * what. 16:19, 2 September 2015 (EDT)


 * here it is SM64 Mario Sidekick.png Don't Get Zonked!  Question Block 3D.png (blabbing &middot; what i do) 16:19, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * That proposal said to delete whole articles of quotes. The one I linked was to specifically delete these. 16:20, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * But the proposal from '07 was about gibberish and the like. "Yes" is not gibberish. SM64 Mario Sidekick.png Don't Get Zonked!  Question Block 3D.png (blabbing &middot; what i do) 16:35, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * It's not talking about literally gibberish, it's just talking about quotes that are mostly meaningless onomatopoeia. 16:39, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * Which doesn't apply to "Yes" either, I don't believe. SM64 Mario Sidekick.png Don't Get Zonked!  Question Block 3D.png (blabbing &middot; what i do) 16:40, 2 September 2015 (EDT)


 * The admin veto summary explicitly says "trim out the unnecessary quotes". The proposal was vetoed because it was using a sledge hammer where a pick-axe would be better, but ultimately, both it and this one were/are unnecessary, since useless quotes that show us nothing about a character's personality can already be removed via common sense and good taste. -

This proposal is not needed whatsoever since it should, on paper, be enforced already as cited by previous proposals above. We can go ahead and delete those "all rights" and "yes" crap but I can imagine people going back and readding those quotes because they're actual words, I guess. If you want to hear character interjections, go to other sites, such as The Sounds Resource, a far better resource than MarioWiki. 20:59, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

Replace "NTSC/PAL version" with "American/European/Australian/Japanese version"
It has come to my attention that the current terminology we use for regional differences in Mario games (NTSC/PAL) is obsolete. NTSC and PAL are outdated TV standards. It puzzles me even more when people call, say, the European version of a handheld game the "PAL version", because that doesn't even make sense since it's not on a TV. Also, there could be differences between the American and Japanese "NTSC versions" beyond language, and our current terms would be non-indicative. Same with European and Australian "PAL versions". The Australian version isn't always a direct import of the European "PAL version" anyways. Sometimes it's the US version. Sometimes it's different from both of them. I know this might be confusing, but using more region-specific terminology will curb all this confusion. Proposer: Deadline: September 9, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per above.
 * 2) It would make more sense. Per YoshiCookie.
 * 3) I agree that we must be more specific about this.
 * 4) Per YoshiCookie.

Oppose

 * 1) I have never heard of those terms being obsolete, otherwise we would have changed it before. Prove that the terms are obsolete and I'll support.
 * 2) NTSC and PAL refer to specific groups of countries that share a common region lock (and plenty of other details, but that's not relevant at the moment). "NTSC" is a simpler way of saying "North America, South America (but not this country, this country, this country, etc.), and also this country, this country, this country, etc.", for example. If we want to refer to differences between American and Japanese releases, we already specify it, but NTSC, PAL, and so on are all terms that are appropriate and very relevant to us. There are likely cases when the terms are used inappropriately, but otherwise, it serves a purpose and should not be excluded.
 * 3) The labels "NTSC" and "PAL" refer to the CDs of the games, in which is the terminology that video games are still using and therefore are actually not obsolete. The TVs may have stopped using it, but the CDs haven't. And it's not puzzling to call them "NTSC" or "PAL", since it has become a regular use in our language to refer to regional differences of various CDs, and if you don't understand what they mean, then it's about time you understand some technical words. We could replace that terminology if there are further regional differences with, say, Australia or whatever, but to completely replace those words is something I'm against. Oh, and Time Turner ninja'd me. Fantastic.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per Time Turner and Baby Luigi. I think that this change wiki just makes things harder.
 * 6) - Per all, especially Time Turner.
 * 7) Per all. Such terms should also be defined in our glossary (which it isn't at the moment).

Comments
I think however it is important to note when that term refers to actual 50/59.94 Hz versions of the games, which can be relevant in games such as the Mario Kart series games.--Mister Wu (talk) 13:27, 2 September 2015 (EDT)


 * Agreed. Also, ZonkMario64, look at this.


 * Don't see US, do you mean UK? SM64 Mario Sidekick.png Don't Get Zonked!  Question Block 3D.png (blabbing &middot; what i do) 15:42, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

But what about handheld games? YoshiCookie (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
 * Essentially the same deal. 19:04, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

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