User talk:Owencrazyboy9

Welcome to my talk page. If you want to chat here, feel free to do so. However, there are a few rules to keep in mind:
 * 1) Don't type curse words on this page. I'm VERY sensitive when it comes to that.
 * 2) Don't insert spam over and over again, flame someone or insult me or any of the other users. If that happens, the comments shown will get removed or altered, no questions asked! You have been warned!
 * 3) If an archived page is unprotected, don't edit it. If that happens, you will be screwed (a.k.a. the edits will get undone)!
 * 4) If you issue me a false warning or reminder for a COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS subject, it will be appealed and hopefully overturned.
 * 5) Make sure the talk that happens here relates to video games or the wiki in general. Other Nintendo-based wikis are fine to chat here, too. Any unrelated talk gets removed.
 * 6) No friend requests. Not to mention, I WILL NOT respond to friend requests. There is already one here, sure, but no more after that. It's better to be safe than sorry!
 * 7) No instances of chat that feel like they belong to the forums. They will be removed if any forum chat comments are seen.
 * 8) Removing or modifying warnings or comments are completely UNACCEPTABLE. If that happens, they will be brought back (if they were deleted) or restored to its original brilliance (if they were changed) and you will be punished for it...maybe.
 * 9) To add a new header, just hit the "+" button next to the edit button. This will bring the next talk discussion, which will go on the bottom.
 * 10) DO NOT move talk discussions from a place to a random spot, because the edit will get undone and you'll be reminded about it.
 * 11) If you forgot to sign your comment, don't bother making another edit to switch it. I can look in the history to see who posted the comment without me having to put the unsigned template.
 * 12) Don't impersonate any of the users on the wiki. You could get in BIG trouble for doing so; that's BIG with a capital B. If you want to see a good example of impersonation, look here.
 * 13) Please don't bother asking why I changed or reverted your edit. I usually have a good reason for doing so and can back it up. Also, "if you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." In the end, it's best you don't even try, like what happened at sections 13 and 34.
 * 14) Lastly, just have fun! As long as you follow these rules, this chat page will be a good spot to hang out.

All right! You can now begin chatting! BTW, ignore sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 25, 39 and 46 on this page (shown in detail in the Table of Contents). In my opinion, they're not worth your time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 17:04, 2 January 2017 (EST)

Advice
Just a piece of advice; I suggest you read through the MarioWiki Policy and the Manual of Style; reason being is that you're not supposed to use the word "you" when editing main articles themselves. All right; take care. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 22:51, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Reminder (Unnecessary Edits/Using "You" In Articles)
Please read this notice as well as the one above. I suggest that you read the Mario Wiki Manual of Style immediately before editing any main articles again. Thanks in advance for your cooperation with this. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 13:10, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

A Reminder About Stub Articles
Hi, next time you create an article make sure it has a reasonable amount of information. I had to delete the last article you made because it was too short. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing :)

Warning

 * Anything not actually made by Nintendo (all fangames, fanfics, fanart, etc.) is not covered by our coverage policy and should not be added. If we tried to add all the fan content on the internet, we would have articles about the most ridiculous things and we could no longer call ourselves an encyclopedia.

Final warning for vandalism
-- 21:19, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

Final warning for disruptive editing altogether, including massive Manual of Style violations
-- 21:56, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

Friend Request
Hi, I want to be friends, as the title implies. Also, could you create a user box and chose a picture for me to use in the friend list?

Paper Smb1 18:48, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Dead-End Space
Hey, nice work on getting that image!

03:12, 14 November 2016 (EST)


 * Thanks! All I did was take a screenshot from a YouTube video and cropped the unnecessary parts before uploading. It was also my very first time uploading an image. I hope I did a good job! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:18, 14 November 2016 (EST)

Bowser
Considering this was three years ago, I don't particularly remember. I guess at the time I didn't think it was really necessary to list in extensive detail every single method to defeat him and what every possible move can do when fighting him.

-Toa 95 (talk)


 * Thanks for the clarification. Maybe a source should be added for that information, stating that it came from the Prima guide and the page it was on. For future reference, if you're going to undo someone's edit, make sure you state why in the edit summary. It's very easy to screw that up sometimes. But I'm sure you knew that already! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2016 (EST)

Anonymous Reminder
As per this page, Anonymous users just get messages and no warnings. 22:59, 22 November 2016 (EST)
 * Sorry about that. I'll keep that in mind next time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2016 (EST)

Welcoming users
Hey, I know you're just being friendly, but you should welcome users after they have made at least one constructive edit. Otherwise, you'd be creating a talk page for what could be an inactive user. 16:28, 2 December 2016 (EST)
 * Thanks for clarifying! I'll now know to wait until they made one edit before welcoming them! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2016 (EST)

Trivia of Shy Guy Falls
Mate, they actually do say "Heihō" but as: "Hei-hō" Partial vandalism? --95.144.142.93 15:02, 19 December 2016 (EST)
 * I didn't vandalize the page, but I just think it doesn't really count as good trivia. Trivia is for bits of information that can't be placed in a really good spot in the article. If you think it's good, then re-add it, but in a good spot in the article. I recommend reading this article for more information on what works and doesn't work as trivia. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:26, 19 December 2016 (EST)

I'm glad I was able to solve the problem between you and the anonymous user, but are either of you going to actually include the information or should I? 19:39, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * I'm not sure. Maybe I can add it in. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2016 (EST)

Edit Summaries
Could you please refrain from adding sly comments to your edit summaries? Here's what I'm talking about:
 * "Fixing incorrect link issue for featuring the page...which will likely never happen, given the state of the article."
 * The first part is informative, but the second half, while true, doesn't need to be said. You fixed a link, that's all.
 * "OK, since when was Paper Mario: Color Splash recent? The game came out in October, now it's January."
 * I think it's fairly obvious that those templates for recent games can be overlooked when its not so recent anymore. People don't realize they are still up, it was never intentionally left there.
 * "User is now blocked. Play the games or watch YouTube videos of the games first before making assumptions."
 * There could've been another way to say this without belittling the anon.
 * "Mega Mole doesn't appear in Super Mario Maker. Nice try, user who added that in!"
 * There's no sense to being so smug here! This one and the one above are the sort of messages designed to anger people.
 * "Bonus Stars appear in Star Rush. Why is that information NOT on this page? Adding expand template until information is added."
 * Same with the recent games template, it can be overlooked.
 * "These are the actual names of the games. Nice try, though."
 * Here you're just being a complete jerk. The person you're referring to in this edit states that they didn't know the actual names, yet when you provided the correct names, you accused them of intentionally giving false information.
 * "Re-created the quotes page for Paper Mario: Color Splash. I put a construction tag unlike the other user who tried to create the page professionally, but failed."
 * I don't actually know what the original page looked like, but this sort of comment was still rude and unnecessary. Possibly another example of being a jerk to someone.
 * This was all just from the last month, and I've been wanting to say something for awhile now. Please just be kind and courteous to others and keep your summaries to only helpful information or real questions, not sarcasm and the lot. Sorry, having trouble finding the right words.-- 02:41, 2 January 2017 (EST)
 * I had no idea that I should be careful on how I use edit summaries. I'll try to fix them up to be polite and nice in the nearby future. For the second to last quote, I was saying "Nice try," because he guessed the names. BTW, great work on those bestiary templates of the Mario RPG games! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:04, 2 January 2017 (EST)

RE:Edit summary.
You seemed to act all heroic about your edit, so I played the same game. In regard to the edits themselves, removing those notes was not necessary at all, and I justified this in one of my edit summaries here - stating that "K Rools Last Stand" has poor punctuation, but is taken from the game exactly as it is. The lack of a "sic" note next to that phrase implies the poor punctuation is the editor's fault and needs to be corrected. Perhaps by saying that the "sic" parts are not needed, you meant that whoever added them was way too specific, but how should I know that? --
 * I probably didn't even think to keep them. Sure, before I removed the "sic" parts, I watched videos of Donkey Kong Land 3, but didn't realize that K. Rools Last Stand didn't have an apostrophe in it. Sorry about what happened. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:21, 25 January 2017 (EST)
 * It's okay! Thanks for understanding! -- 14:35, 25 January 2017 (EST)

Shy Bandit Trivia
The reason I removed the trivia that stated that the Shy Bandit cannot appear whenever you have a card of him is because, in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=y0aUOmS-kHg&a=, it shows a Shy Bandit card being used on the Shy Bandit, showing he can attack while you have his card. -- 20:52, 28 January 2017 (EST)
 * Oh! Didn't see that coming. I thought that important trivia was removed, but turns out it was to fix a mistake. Sorry about that! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2017 (EST)

74.89.20.171
Rather than just explain what the user did wrong in the summaries, it'd be better to also leave an informal warning on their talk page. That way they will get the message more easily, and there are a lot of users who don't even look at the page histories or recent changes anyway. 02:29, 29 January 2017 (EST)
 * Oh, OK. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:38, 29 January 2017 (EST)

MKDD LAN image
Several things I have to say.


 * 1) The image you uploaded is not actually higher quality than the one I uploaded. You took that one from a video camera recording, the one I had is directly from a capture card. I'd rather we have a capture card screenshot in French than a video recording of poorer quality in English.
 * 2) To see changes when you upload a new revision, you need to clear your cache or refresh your page.

11:55, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * I found that on YouTube. And, I didn't know I had to clear cache to see differences in revisions. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:59, 6 February 2017 (EST)

Yo
"YOU BIG IDIOT!" That was uncalled for. Regardless of whether the anon was correct or not, there's no need for an outburst like that. Please refrain from direct comments like that in your summaries in the future, alright? 13:02, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * Well, I was irritated that the IP address kept changing quotes from the ones in the game to the ones not in the game. I don't have the game myself, so I look to YouTube videos for proof. Sorry if I offended anyone! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 14:34, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * You haven't offended anyone (I think), but still, it's courtesy not to make comments like that. 18:55, 6 February 2017 (EST)

JonnyGamer02
Hi! This is JonnyGamer about editing the Super Mario Odyssey (I'm new here so I don't know how this whole thing works or if you will be able to read this) I tried to put back the reference to Candy Kong because if you pause the Super Mario Odyssey video right as it goes to New Donk City, you can see Candy Kong along with other DK characters. (Candy's Cafe, next to tiny's piroshki and banana bagels) Thanks


 * Oh, OK. If I watch the trailer again, I will keep a close eye on it. By the way, an appeal is basically a process to get a warning or reminder issued to you removed permanently. Type MarioWiki:Appeals and go to the page. Follow the instructions to get your appeal started. Once done, make a new talk page header on this page letting me know that a reminder I issued to you is under dispute. Use Template:AppealNotice in the new header. I will try to make a decent argument explaining why the warning should either be removed or not. After some thought, if the admins think it should be removed, the reminder or warning will be overturned. In some cases, the warning or reminder will stand, although it depends on what has happened before the appeal. One last thing, warnings or reminders issued to you by an administrator cannot be appealed. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 12:27, 13 February 2017 (EST)

Ok thanks, sorry I misunderstood

Hey, is it ok if I add Candy Kong back into the DK references for Super Mario Odyssey? (If you want to find it, just watch the first minute of the GameXplain SMO Analysis)
 * Sure, go ahead! If it gets undone, it's best to explain on their talk page why it should be on. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2017 (EST)

Battle Cards
Would you do me a favor? On the page Battle_Card_(Mario_%26_Luigi:_Paper_Jam), could you edit the table and swap the position of all the cells under "Effect" with all the cells under "How To Obtain Normal Card" (excluding the first one)? I could do it but it's something I'm not up for right now.-- 23:03, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 * Uh, sure. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 * OK, just finished a few hours ago. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:59, 16 February 2017 (EST)

A word of advice
I advice you to stop "arguing" with vandals and yelling at them in edit summaries, as you did here and in other events. It's feeding the troll, it looks quite silly, and really, don't do it. --Glowsquid (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do it. I was getting so fed up with him undoing my edit SEVERAL times. Maybe next time I shouldn't do that. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * On top of that (and partially reiterating what Glowsquid aforementioned), please do not report vandals to the Admin noticeboard unless the offense is severe enough, like you did here. Wait until they commit an offense after legitimately receiving a last warning, and give them an informal reminder, which was how I (successfully) dealt with the issue. Thanks. 14:32, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * OK, then. What they were doing was pretty severe enough in my opinion. Now, waiting until they commit either multiple offenses or one so harsh enough that it warrants an automatic block is a good idea. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 14:34, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * You were both in the right. Leaving a note on the Admin noticeboard tells the admins of a user that needs to be dealt with. Alternatively, you can leave a reminder/warning/etc. (based on how severe the damage was) on the user's page to notify them of what they are doing wrong. Either one works.
 * And, yeah, removing content is a pretty severe action. They should've received a due to policy.  14:42, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Re: Rat Trap
eep

Thank you for letting me know! 16:57, 22 February 2017 (EST)

Appeal notice
I'm completely sorry if this is the wrong place to put it. If it is supposed to go somewhere else, please let me know where, and if it is wrong and you are allowed to remove it, please feel free to do so. Sorry. BBQ Turtle (Talk)
 * Just entered my case on the Appeals page. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:04, 5 March 2017 (EST)
 * Thank you so much! I'm really sorry for what I did, and I'm so sorry to be causing all of this nuisance. But thank you, I hope that they do at least down the warning. :D
 * Hi, me again, sorry if I'm getting annoying. I just wanted to let you know, if you didn't know already, that they have completely reverted my Last Warning (Yippee!), but I promise I won't do it again- I definitely learnt the hard way! :) BBQ Turtle (talk) 07:19, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
 * Next time something like this happens, it's always better to learn the easy way, not the hard way. Or better yet, it shouldn't happen again. Just in case, it does happen, you know what to do. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:50, 21 March 2017 (EDT)

Warning
You were reverted by an admin and you are not in the right here. The article states there are no Warp Zones in SMB2 and they don't even appear in the template. Revert once more and you will receive a Last Warning. -- 10:31, 8 March 2017 (EST)

Well
How was Disney Land? :P

19:37, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
 * Pretty good. I went with my sister and my dad and stayed three nights at the Paradise Pier hotel close to California Hotel. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 19:48, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

Card Space in Mario Party: Island Tour
Thanks for removing the card space stuff. Also, thanks for fixing my Mini Spec edit. I'll remember not to use "you" next time! -YoshiFlutterJump
 * No problem! Glad I could help! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

Summaries
Can I ask that you please be more calm in your edit summaries next time? Going off on other users, using capital letters or otherwise, is discourteous or, in the case of a vandal, would just egg them on. Nobody is perfect in their edits. You may receive a warning if this continues as this sort of thing is a level two offence. 21:40, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
 * I get annoyed on stuff like that happening, but, after all, no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, so it's best to just let that slide and let them know how to improve...
 * Unless it's someone who's intentionally vandalizing several pages repeatedly in such a short span of time.
 * I didn't even know that could result in a warning or last warning being issued. Maybe I should just state the bare minimum next time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:47, 29 March 2017 (EDT)

Vacation
That's your second trip to a Disney theme park in two months. Lucky! :P How was Disney World compared to Disney Land? 15:49, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
 * Better. First of all, there's four theme parks, which has a lot of variety. Secondly, the hotel I stayed at, which is the Swan Hotel, has FOUR pool spots, in conjunction with the Dolphin Hotel. And finally, the rides whether they were at Disneyland (like the Mad Tea Party) or the rides only in Florida (like the Monsters, Inc. Laugh Floor), have something for everyone. I would recommend going again in the future. Too bad a four-day pass is expensive... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2017 (EDT)

OMG Thank you!
Omg! On the Diamond City article from mario kart arcade gp, well, I just can't beilieve I completed it to the point where it is no longer a stub! Thank you! This is awesome! This is my first article that I have changed to make it not a stub anymore! Im not even autoconfirmed yet! (One more day) this is awesome!!! 21:33, 23 April 2017 Tommy 8353 (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2017 (EDT)

Jelectro
Just so you know, I actually have Super Mario Maker, and they actually are referred to as "Jelectros". (And the sea urchins are called "Sea Urchins") -- 11:03, 23 May 2017 (EDT)
 * Hmm. Must've heard Spike Trap in an earlier version of the game. Thanks for the clarification! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:32, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

Re: Guess Who!
Fixed. Thanks for the catch! :) --Andymii (talk) 13:34, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

More Monkey Madness
The article for Outrageous in Super Mario World says the same thing. I don't see the difference, unless there's something I'm missing, in which case I apologize for my mistake.
 * Sure, it may be your own personal opinion that this level is hard, but others may find it easy to beat, for example. Oh, and thanks for the apology, by the way, – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:33, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Boi
Boi, why did you delete my edit on Super Smash Bros for Wii U. That info was not opinionated. Super Smash Bros for Wii U is one of the best rated Wii U games, so take that. So what if I was listing an individual store. I was just trying to help the people who are reading the article to know where they can get it, bro. --97.101.186.114 11:48, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Sure, it IS one of the best-selling and highest-rated Wii U games. But those kinds of information would usually go in the reception section. Stating if the game is really good or not at the beginning is just your opinion. – 11:56, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * You could just remove the flame part. You even said you would on your rule 2. 11:59, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Thanks for reminding me! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 12:03, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Reverting edits
Hey, just to let you know, when reverting edits with a user who isn't listening to reason (vandal, spammer, whatever), it's best to not engage them in conversation, as doing so will just get them (and sometimes you) riled up more. Just revert the edit without saying anything and a staff member will take care of the problem when they can. 15:25, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

SMM Image
I uploaded a different version of the Super Bakarhythm Land image because the one I had previously uploaded was too blurry when I had uploaded it to the level's page. 00:17, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Volcanic Debris in Mario Kart: Super Circuit
I know this is really late and I made this edit a while ago, but the reason I changed the lava balls to say Volcanic Debris on the Lakeside Park page is because Volcanic Debris is listed on both Template:MKSC and Mario Kart: Super Circuit is also listed on the actual Volcanic Debris page, so I just thought to change it for consistency. 02:55, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
 * Time Turner actually just found an official name for the lava balls in Lakeside Park, called Lava Boulders. 00:03, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
 * Oh, OK. If that's the case, change the Volcanic Debris page for the Super Circuit to Lava Boulders or make a new page for it. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:08, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
 * I've played that game, and it acts exactly like Volcanic Debris. Because is is Volcanic Debris. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

RE: DEALT
The Ds patch was for when you played it on my 3DS it didn't work 🦊User:Woot🦊🏁 21:32, 8 August 2017 (EDT)

Warning
I think you've already been reminded once about "yelling" in summaries, and it's been something a couple of admins have noticed from you. What you said here was rude and uncalled for. It's good that you're reverting invalid edits, but there's no reason to leave an unfriendly remark aimed at the user in the summary when doing so. Simply saying something like "They're actually called Spine Coasters in the game." would've been perfectly fine here. Self-control is key in situations like this. 00:51, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
 * Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! How could a single edit summary lend itself towards a warning. That summary was just an act of confusion as to why there was a citation tag on a name a game mentions out by the way. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:59, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
 * "Confused" doesn't seem like the first thing that comes to mind to describe it, but regardless of how that summary is interpreted, remarks like that are still unacceptable. The warning was also on account for previous instances this has happened since the first reminder. 03:19, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

"Shiny" RoboBowser
I have confirmation from and  that the shiny variants of the enemies in Paper Jam don't actually have "Shiny" in their name. I can't check myself, and I noticed you corrected the link to go to the proper page, but do you know if RoboBowser is actually called "Shiny RoboBowser"? (Seems kinda pointless to call him that if there isn't a standard RoboBowser, tbh) 13:20, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
 * The game calls him that. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J4LnBMB1cw – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:21, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
 * Okay, thanks! 13:26, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

Lake Kingdom
This has been discussed, and due to the new postcard, we now know for a fact that is the Lake Kingdom. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
 * Oh, OK. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 18:43, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

Chill Bully
Regarding your edit war with Doc (first of all, that's a big no. Please talk to the other user if you have questions regarding their reversion), the Chill Bully should be considered a boss because it's a defeatable enemy that guards a Star. It may not have any music associated with it, but neither does the Big Bully, Big Boo, or Big Mr. I. 20:09, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

Shiny Article includes paper jam
The Shiny article also includes paper jam, it just hasn't yet been heavily added, or else there would be a disambiguation page. Chat Man (talk) 00:02, 11 October 2017 (EDT)
 * Alex95 has provided a clear reason why it should NOT be included in the article. If you have any questions about that, ask him. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:08, 11 October 2017 (EDT)

Donkey Kong
See how we consider Chill Bully a boss? Donkey Kong in Odyssey is about the same. He's a simple boss, but a boss nonetheless, evoking the simple boss battles in games like Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Land, and Super Mario World. He's a large, unique enemy that takes multiple hits to defeat and can only be damaged a specific way that is the final obstacle before a specific goal is met; ie, a boss. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:25, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * But, then again, most bosses in Odyssey generally are labelled as such. Does the Prima guide say that DK is a boss? If not, then it shouldn't be listed as a boss on both the navigational template and main game page. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:36, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't know if it does, but the mere definition of video game boss does, and that's what matters. Chill Bully is a boss despite not appearing in Mario Kart DS, where all the other Super Mario 64 DS bosses appeared, so being left out of a supplementary source is not grounds for removal. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:38, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * Well, I don't have it myself at the moment. Maybe asking someone about DK's boss status in Odyssey should provide some answers. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:39, 10 November 2017 (EST)

Also
"Also, [text]" is perfectly valid and sounds fine to me. There's really no need to change that. 15:12, 14 November 2017 (EST)

Unlockable
I would like to point out that you must play toad scramble to unlock all the characters in Mario Party: Star Rush (with the exeption of Toad), thus making then unlockable. Chat Man (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Everyone is playable from the start in all modes, other than Toad Scramble. With the exception of Toadette, Rosalina, DK and Diddy. The main article's page gives more detailed information other than the brief snippets I'm giving you here. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:29, 14 November 2017 (EST)

True, but Toad Scramble is the main mode, as well as only mode available when you first get the game, Making the others modes unlockable and less important. Chat Man (talk) 22:44, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Sure, I know that Toad Scramble is the main mode, but for the rest of the game, every single character, except for Rosalina, Diddy, Toadette and DK, are available at the start. I could not have made myself any clearer than this! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:54, 14 November 2017 (EST)

I don't believe I could be any clearer either, the other modes are significantly less important, and is the only mode available at the start of the game. And even if it's for only one mode it doesn't change the definition of "unlockable". Chat Man (talk) 22:57, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * It does change the definition of unlockable in this manner; a character is collected in Toad Scramble, but playable at the beginning in ALL of the other modes, including the Minigames section. With the sole exception of Toadette, DK, Rosalina and Diddy, they are NOT locked in the game under ANY form. For the last time, I could not have made myself any clearer!! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:16, 14 November 2017 (EST)

I don't think you're reading what I am writing, if they cannot be obtained at the start of the game, they are unlockable, no matter how you look at it. (with those exeptions). Also its not a "sole" exeption if there's more then one... just sayin. Chat Man (talk) 23:28, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. I suggest that maybe you should try talking to an admin. If you do that, maybe you can see what they think and see if they side with my opinions or yours. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:33, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * If you don't mind me sharing my opinion... We don't judge characters based on the number of times they were or weren't unlockable. If they need to be unlocked, they're considered unlockable characters. Why would the fact that it's only restricted to one mode matter? 23:51, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Hence the reversions on the Wario and Waluigi page. As for the one mode restrictions, the only time that has happened was in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games in a sense. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:13, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * You said that the modes they were available from the start were unlockable? So wouldn't they be, by definition, unlockable characters, as to play as them in that mode, you have to unlock the mode, and as such, they're unlockable in all respects? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:18, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * Who said that? Me or ChatMan? Either way, the only other modes besides Toad Scramble unlocked at the beginning are three Free-for-All minigames and the Character Museum, so that kinda defeats the purpose of these so-called "unlockable" characters, not counting the actual unlockable characters in the game. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:28, 15 November 2017 (EST)

I agree we should continue this conversation, but only once will I state, that If a character Is not available at the start of the game, they are unlockable, now we both have last warnings, but for what it's worth, I'm sorry if I acted childish Chat Man (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * It's all right. Everyone makes mistakes, no one can be "perfect all the time." Sometimes it's best to work things out with a quick discussion instead of going crazy reverting the heck out of each other's edits. At this rate, one wrong move could get us blocked for a bit. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:13, 15 November 2017 (EST)

What do you say I put it as playable character in bold, and put a bullet at the bottom saying he's unlockable In Toad Scramble Mode, think that will work? Or do you have an Idea? Chat Man (talk) 22:17, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * Sure! Either that, or mention that the characters aren't playable at the beginning of a game of Toad Scramble. As long as the admins are fine with it, it's fine by me! I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:32, 15 November 2017 (EST)

I'll get on it. It's nice to see that we can get along, when we aren't yelling, arguing, getting last warnings, and going crazy. I'll get on it. Chat Man (talk) 22:36, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Enough with the pointless edit warring. From what I can tell, Wario and Waluigi are unlocked in some modes and locked in others. Ergo, they are both a locked and starting character. Perhaps the information should read "Playable Character (unlockable in , starting in )". 22:58, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * I didn't start it at all. If anything, they are playable in the other modes at the beginning but are "collected" in the Toad Scramble mode. That doesn't deserve a last warning, since I was trying to get Chat Man to understand that everywhere else in the game that both Wario and Waluigi are starter characters, not unlockable. I can't believe it ended up in this mess for the past two days... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't care who started it, the problem was it continued longer than it needed to. A conclusion should have happened before making repeated changes, perhaps by talking on his page. 23:03, 15 November 2017 (EST)