Talk:Luigi's Mansion

Ta-da!
Been working on these rooms for about a week, and I'm proud to report I am finished. I did get some help from Sir Grodus (Courtyard) and Snowblind (Billards Room and Balcony) though. Cheers to those guys! But like I said, every room is done. Monty Mole 17:01, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

Good.HK-47 w4z   h3R3   a  t  17:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Terrific! Now with PipeProjects, such a process as Luigi's Mansion will become much easier to handle. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 17:28, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

Ghosts
''To save space, this template has been removed. This project is almost complete and can be found at Template:Ghosts. 14:48, 23 July 2006 (EDT)

This template will have been immediately added to all existing pages following this 'update' post. Looks like none of the three of us have been on today, but if you're on for 30 minutes, consider creating a page for one of the ghosts above (and putting to add the template!). For portrait ghosts, explain where they're located and how Luigi can capture them. For common ghosts, Son of Suns, your Bat article is a good example. Portraits are identified as characters, but not necessarily enemies (Neville and Lydia never try to hurt Luigi, but Chauncey does). Common ghosts are each a different species, and the only one of these that aren't enemies are the mice.

I hope everyone who has played LM, not just me, Son of Suns, and HK, will help create the ghost articles. :) Wayoshi 21:22, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I keep finding requests for pics in the ghost articles. I've searched for pics, but there are none. I think people should do a bit of research to see if pics of characters exist before requesting them. -- Sir Grodus

Sir, you know not what you speak. I tagged those at about 10 oclock. People can always scan and edit pictures of ghost from manuals and guides. H K

Two Proposed Side Projects
Let's keep all recent talk up here, as this is getting long.

Two related projects I would like to take on but definitely would like to extend the offer to anyone else:


 * 1) I will probably take on is create articles for all the rooms in the mansion, in order of Luigi's adventure. That would probably include making *yet* another template, by area. Notably rooms (where it is, what ghosts are encountered, what key or treasure is obtained, what Boo hides in the room) are easier to create articles for than Portrait Ghosts (require in-depth how-to and what happened, bosses even longer).
 * 2)  Boos. Create a list of the 50 Boos on the main article, including link to location to help out in the project above. Complete! -- Son of Suns

I'll be focusing on Common Ghosts and some Portrait Ghosts (nice, complete articles in a story form, Son of Suns) for now, so feel free to start either. Wayoshi 02:16, 23 July 2006 (EDT)

I love this game. Beat it a million times. I actually had the np guide a month before I got the game... lol I can't find said guide, but I would love to help. H K


 * I think I'll help out too, if you want me to. I have the player's guide, instruction manual, the game, and a notebook full of notes about the game that I need to upload. Unfortunately, I have so many notes to upload about other games I haven't gotten around to Luigi's Mansion yet. I could switch my focus if needed. --Son of Suns 14:44, 19 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I have the NP Guide at home (I'm on vacation), but I remember it pretty well...here's some things I thought about:


 * Money. Gold coins, bills, gems, diamonds, pearls. Tell how much is each (don't know the blue, red, and green gems exactly). Probably explain how to get both gold diamonds.
 * All 23 gallery ghosts. In fact, the NP Guide has the name of the common ghosts, that's something one of us can add later.
 * Elemental Medals
 * Controls is something I always like to include, like how to use the flashlight effectively w/ B and tugging.

How about I add controls, directly after storyline, and the two of you work on another aspect. Wayoshi 14:50, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

I'll find that guide soon. ( I hope.) And figure out what to do. H K


 * I can work on portrait ghosts and common ghosts, maybe even the elemental medals. --Son of Suns 14:52, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Umm.... I'm gonna..... work on..... something..... else..... I can't find that guide. Its lost to the basement's maw! H K

This is so awesome. Mega collaborative work. And its an important article. I love this. H K

Ill work on the overview section at the top. H K

Sounds good, Son of Suns, since you are the only one that has the guide right now. Now I'm going to list all the money in the game, I'll use normal Wikipedia's article to help. Wayoshi 15:12, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

*Shudders at Wikipedia* I just thought of a side project for Bowser that is loosely tied to this. Very loosely. H K

I feel like I haven't done anything substantial on this project. H K

Overview
Wouldn't this mark the second time Luigi is the star. I mean I know what it says, but isn't important if its the second EXACTLY? H K


 * Yes. Luigi was the star of Mario is Missing, where he had to save Mario for the first time. --Son of Suns 15:06, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Wasn't this game hinted at in Luigi's diary in paper mario? H K

Awaiting some feedback on the diary thing. Or would that be trivia? H K


 * It would be trivia, but I can't confirm the info. --Son of Suns 15:38, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Wasn't it a launch title? H K
 * Yes. --Son of Suns 15:33, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Controls
Don't forget the different modes of control! H K
 * That's right, Sidestep! Thank you. Wayoshi 15:12, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Story
Didn't Mario just get there first? I don't remember Luigi having Mario go first to check it out. I could have a faulty memory, however. H K


 * Luigi called Mario and said (paraphrase) "hey I won this mansion, let's go there". Mario and Toad simply arrived first (since Luigi and Mario were in two different locations). --Son of Suns 15:51, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Hey, I know you won't know, an I ask this to be humorous, but where was Luigi? Before he went to the mansion. H K


 * Well, this is pure speculation but maybe he was at Mario's Pad, the cottage house, while Mario was at Peach's Castle. Mario did arrive with Toad afterall. --Son of Suns 16:00, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Was Toad the only mushroom person who went with Mario or were there more? -- Sir Grodus
 * In fact, there were more. When Toad calls from the Telephone Room, he uses "we". Wayoshi 20:35, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Portrait Ghosts
Is Glutton optional? I thought he was required. Isn't the upside-down girl the only ghost who is optional? H K
 * Nope. You can walk right into the kitchen. Any gallery ghost that produces a silver diamond and two gold bars, or any other green treasure chest, are optional. That includes the muscle ghost...the billiards ghost...Jarvis and a couple of others. The Toy Soldiers are required because the toy house opens upon lighting the room. Wayoshi 15:24, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Alright. Cool. Just wonderin. H K

The Money
What about dollar bills? H K
 * Listed as "Bill" in player's guide. Worth 20,000G. --Son of Suns 17:23, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Oh. Sorry missed it! H K

Should we make a template out of all the money when we create their separate articles? Wayoshi 17:25, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Probably, but that definitley won't be my job. Sorry. I did change the gold bar page, though. H K What about a new category? "Luigi's Mansion Money?" Wayoshi 17:27, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

That I can do! H K

Better idea! H K

Money Subcategory for items, subsubcategory for Lm money H K

Um... How do I make a subcategory? H K


 * Make a normal category, then on the category page, put the larger category in the page. Ex: Make Luigi Mansion Money Category, then on that page, place a Money Category link. --Son of Suns 17:44, 19 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I created the category "Mansion Treasures" and put it under Category: Coins . Coins is the closest to Money, and in the description it called Coins currency. Wayoshi 20:24, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

I was gonna do that.... I had to eat dinner! H K

Next Stage
Still left:


 * There's a lot of new articles ahead, all enemies in the mansion (they are all ghosts, so they go into the Undead Category ). I have made articles on most of the money (Mansion Treasures) except for pearls, which I'll do first thing when I return.
 * Elemental Medals, Son of Suns is in charge.
 * So you can get involved, HK, can you add the House Rankings, from A to H? 100,000,000G to 5,000G (I've always wanted to get Rank H, but ignoring all money is...hard for me).
 * Trivia. Such as the highest money possible is 142,390,000, composed of...(I have the details from another guy's run somewhere...), etc.

We're well on our way to making a complete page, with tens of articles branching off of it. Cheers to the three of us! Wayoshi 01:09, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I got rank H once. It was funny to go from mansion to tent. But yeah, I'll make a list from A-H, and how much money each is. H K

Gallery
What did you mean when you (Wayoshi) wrote Frames become nicer as Luigi catches more Boos? Son of Suns 00:55, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Hmm, I read that somewhere, that the frames have more detail. I'll remove since I'm not entirely sure. Wayoshi 00:59, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Nonproject
How can King Boo say, "All the trouble you caused me in the past..." during his first apearance? H K
 * Perhaps he is the Big Boo in Super Mario World. Wayoshi
 * One: King Boo could be referring to all the trouble Mario and Luigi have caused for the Boos, which indirectly causes problems for King Boo. Two: Super Mario 64 DS appears to be a retcon of the original Super Mario 64 DS. As such, the Big Boo character was replaced by the King Boo character at certain points in the game, meaning that Mario and Luigi have caused troubles for King Boo in a retconned storyline. Three: King Boo cannot be Big Boo from Super Mario World. There is more than one Big Boo in the game and they can be easily defeated. -- Son of Suns

Leaving
Hey I gotta tell you guys something. In about a month I go to school, and I may be unable to come to the site. I don't know. If I can go to the site, it would be at strict times that I am unsure of. H K

Next Time
Next time we do a big project, should we do like wikipedia (ugh) and make a template to put on talk pages saying that its part of a project, and the main project page is here (link)? H K

lol @ PAL differences
I've got the PAL Version. Ouch.
 * I'll try find out the ghosts' PAL HP. ~ It's-a me, Smeedel. / Talk - Contribs - You 13:19, 5 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Great idea, add the PAL HP to each ghost's article. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 13:28, 5 August 2006 (EDT)

I noticed...
I noticed a lot of the rooms are undone. Should I do them in the same format as the other rooms?Monty Mole 18:19, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

Yes. H K
 * That's the final component of the project that I haven't gotten to yet. We'd love the help! Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 18:33, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

All right. I'll do what I can. =) Monty Mole 19:45, 7 August 2006 (EDT)


 * I noticed that the Mario Items mostly collected in Area Three can be collected in any order. Therefore, I think I will list them as "first, second," etc. in the order they appear of the Game Boy Horror. Monty Mole 17:35, 8 August 2006 (EDT)
 * That's fine. Wayoshi ( T&middot;</tt>C&middot;</tt>@ ) 17:39, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

Progress
I'm making some progress with the rooms. I only have three more in Area Two to do. Would one of you mind looking over them and giving your dis/approval? Much appreciated. <font color="#C0D9FF">Monty Mole 21:31, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

They're fine. Keep it up. H K

Official Storyline
I got this from "Super Mario Bros. HQ," which got it from the US instruction booklet: "One day, Luigi received an unexpected message: You've won a huge mansion! Naturally, He got very excited and called his brother, Mario. "Mario? It's me, Luigi. I won myself a big mansion! Meet me there and we'll celebrate, what do you say?" Luigi tried to follow the map to his new mansion, but the night was dark, and he became hopelessly lost in an eerie forest along the way. Finally, he came upon a gloomy mansion on the edge of the woods. According to the map, this mansion seemed to be the one Luigi was looking for. As soon as Luigi set foot in the mansion, he started to feel nervious. Mario, who should have arrived first, was nowhere to be seen. Not only that, but there were ghosts in the mansion! Suddenly, a ghost lunged at Luigi! "Mario! Help meee!" That's when a strange old man with a vacuum cleaner on his back appeared out of nowhere! This strange fellow managed to rescue Luigi from the ghosts, then the two of them escaped... It just so happened that the old man, Professor Elvin Gadd, who lived near the house, was researching his favorite subject, ghosts. Luigi told Professor E. Gadd that his brother Mario was missing, so the Professor decided to give Luigi two inventions that would help him search for his brother. Luigi's not exactly known for his bravery. Can he get rid of all of the prank-loving ghosts and find Mario?"

Should we incorperate it or just use our rewrite currently on the article? Ours is more "encyclopedia-ish". 21:42, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Where is he?!
Aren't we missing a portrait ghost on the page? The snow guy!
 * Indeed, Sir Weston is missing. - 14:54, 23 December 2007 (EST)

Having Trouble
I can't find the key for the Sitting Room. Where is it? 9:55 AM. December 24, 2007 (PST)

It's on the roof after you suck up the ghosts. - 17:49 28 December 2007

Strageties for capturing ghosts quickly
I would like all that follows this to be added. 'As soon as you start sucking up the ghost, move the analog stick (control stick) AND the C-Stick in the Direction opposite of the ghost. Doing this repeatedly can help guaranteed getting a gold border on a picture of the ghost.' Learner 16:04, 8 March 2008 (EST)
 * Very good point... I'm wondering how that isn't already in the article. You can put that in anywhere you like.  I would recomend it being in the "Game Play" sectin.  We have that, right?  18:31, 8 March 2008 (EST)

A To-Do List
This article needs work before it can truely be a featured article, in my opinion. Would anyone like to help me come up with a to-do list? 00:42, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

4th wall?
How does this game break the fourth wall? Did I miss something...? Dr Pepper42 03:29, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
 * When Luigi collects a precious jewel, he shows it off as if to an audience. 03:34, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Also when he obtain a key he faces the player shakes his head.

Artwork
Can we add an artwork section or do we not have enough artwork yet. --
 * Yes, we can start one. If there are only a few artworks, we can add more.  I would, but I don't have time right now!  Sorry!  16:13, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Look out for Idiots!!!
I found this article while Googling Luigi's Mansion artwork. Accoding to this, pirates have been repakeging Luigi's Mansion by putting it on DVD's, and inserting them into fake Wii version boxes. This means we have to look out for people who have been fooled into thinking this is real, because some n00bs might put these things into article. This is possible because some people were thinking that Super Mario World NES pirate was real. --

Um, how did this article became FA when there is more than 2 improvement templates on it?
 * It was featured before it went much into depth, and after it got featured people realized that and started working on it, such as myself. 20:26, 21 January 2009 (EST)


 * I nominated it to become unfeatured. 02:05, 22 January 2009 (EST)

Lights
Does anyone know how to turn on the light on the staircase leading to the third floor? If anyone does I would be very thankful. --Count b 15:29, 9 February 2009 (EST)Count b
 * We have a forum for discussing this sort of thing. Please try to keep discussion related to improving the article.  Regardless, what you're asking is impossible to do.  15:51, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Portraits and New Mansion
Does anyone have pictures of the silver and bronze portraits for the portrait ghosts? I think it would be a great addition the the portrait ghost's pages. Also does anyone have pictures of all the levels of Luigi's New Mansion?

3-D series
Is this game considered part of the 3-D series? Will someone please awnser!

No because it's a spin off game.

Gallery Portraits
I think that someone should upload all three frames of the gallery ghosts. For example, Neville's bronze frame depicts his head with this facial expression: o:. However, his gold frame depicts him sitting on the chair reading a book. This will help get an idea of the difference in quality of the frames as mentioned. If someone can do it, then that'd be great!--
 * I agree. Now where will we get the images?


 * That's the only problem...:/--

Trivia
"This game is seen by many as a total, complete, in all senses of the phrase, rip-off of the movie Ghostbusters. HOWEVER, this is relatively far from true. In the movie, they use proton-emitting 'wands' attached to the back-attached Proton Packs (thus the link to the Poltergust), with the general affect being that of a laser stream emitter. Plus, to actually capture the ghosts, the team used 'traps' which did have a slightly vacuum-reminiscent effect upon activation, where they had to be below the specter in need of capturing. So, Luigi's Mansion replaces all of that with a vacuum cleaner. So, while the game does take elements from Ghostbusters, (for the better) it doesn't rip off the movie as much as people think. "

Some of this trivia seems opionated to me, and somewhat irrelevant. Could we get rid of this or at least shorten it? --LuigiBros64

Toad not a Generic Toad?
Well I'm not entirely sure but it seems likely that this toad who is the option of the save file may infact be the character Toad. He is referred to as simply "Toad" in the instruction manual and even in the quote .."I wish I could do something to help you... Talk to me for help anytime!" , he shows that he is the only toad there, signifying that he is important and the only Toad there. Also he is one of peach's servants so is he the major character Toad? User:Pichufan93

So many Ghosts
This has nothing to do with the wiki... the Mario universe had so many ghosts before Luigi's mansion couldn't they have been included? Boo, Boo Buddy, Big Boo, Terekuribo, Boo Guy, Lantern Ghost, Eerie, Stretch, Fishin' Boo, Boo Buddy Block, Greaper, Gusty, Caged Ghost, Blindfold Boo, Inviso plus other monsters that fit the bill: Mr. I, Dry Bones, Fishbone, Zombie Wario, Zombone, Bony Beetle, Bone Dragon, Straw Head... the possibilities they had to "mariofy" that game are there, why did it feel so foreign?

Sequel
Shouldn't it be mentioned that a sequel for the 3DS was mentioned by Hideki Konno in an interveiw with Nintendo power;

"Nintendo Power: You mentioned Luigi's Mansion earlier, so we have to ask: have you given any thought to a sequel for that game? it seems like it would be a great fit for the Nintendo 3DS.

Hideki Konno:When i did experiments with Luigi's mansion and the aforementioned 3D panel for the GameCube 10 years ago, ''i found that game was indeed a great match for 3D. so there is a chance that you can see a sequel for the Nintendo 3DS in the future''."

They said the exact same thing for Pikmin 3, and it is coming out...VersionJay 19:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


 * A sequel for the game hasn't been announced yet, but Pikmin 3 was already announced. I think this shouldn't be in yet until we are 100% sure that a sequel is coming. After all, he said "there is a chance."

Delete Chronological Storyline section
DELETE SECTION 17-0

Seriously, this is pointless. The section is ridiculously long and poorly-written, reading like an especially useless FAQs that merely describes the room progression and the cutscenes. It's also rambling and full of information that isn't relevant to the game (most of the stuff about E Gadd's backstory) or the storyline. The plot summary below it is more than good enough to descrive the game's plot.

Proposer: Deadline: April 9, 2011, 24:00 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal
 * 2) - Per Glowsquid. The mere fact that we have two storyline sections looks disorganized: we should go with the one that actually follows established wiki conventions (i.e. the one that's a plot summary, not a novelization).
 * 3) - I agree with the proposal.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per proposal
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Really, this proposal isn't necessary since the storyline thing doesn't even adhere to the standards, but I'll go with you.
 * 8) Per Walkazo and the Mario that's  lefty and wears green.
 * 9) This would be better on someone else's article like E. Gadd or Boo Woods or both. Per Blitzwing Glowsquid.
 * 10) Having two sections on the story causes serious redundancy. I'd go with the more professional and encyclopedia-like.
 * 11) I feel bad for whoever wrote all that redundancy that will be gone soon...
 * 12) Two words: PER ALL!!
 * 13) Do I have to say "Per proposer" everytime I support proposals? I think we need another proposal that disallows describing the support votes, like in FA proposals.
 * 14) It's just a convoluted mess now. Per all.
 * 15) Per all.
 * 16) Yeah, it's way too long and rambling. Per all.
 * 17) Per all.

Comment
@SW Flash Only if the reason for your support is the proposal itself. I think a proposal to remove reasons for one's votes would fail, since it appears that many users (myself included) find unsupported reasons invalid.

Nana and Petunia
in the Portrait ghosts part of the page, Miss Petunia is listed before Nana but you get the hint on Petunia's weakness from Nana's diary which means that you defeat Nana first and Petunia second, right? Or can you defeat them vice versa? When Chauncey screams, so do I


 * Hello, anyone there? When Chauncey screams, so do I. 02:21, 14 May 2011 (EDT)


 * You can defeat them in any order. User:MarioMaster720


 * You can do it in any order, but it would make more sense if Nana was listed first, then Ms. P. But it doesn't have to be changed, so... :O ✄---Moshata---x  13:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

Weird fact
"Super Mario World: When Mario or Luigi entered the first haunted house, the Boos said that they have met them in a mansion somewhere"


 * Wait a moment, that game was released before this one, and the Boos didn't talk, did they?
 * Good find. That reference is definitely bogus. - 20:30, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

Luigi Hang Glitch
Apparently, there's a glitch OR a possible Easter egg circulating the internet. See it here... I don't think it's worth mentioning in the actual article, but rather, on a glitch article related to Luigi's Mansion. There are a few other known glitches to Luigi's Mansion as well. Any thoughts on this? I thought I'd ask before messing anything up. ✄---Moshata---x 13:48, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
 * All we could really say is that the shadow depicts Luigi off of the ground. It's not clear enough to consider it a depiction of Luigi's "hanging." 14:24, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Yeah, saying it's him "hanging" is going too far, but the fact that the shadow is floating is a valid glitch, and making a "" sub-page for it and other glitches (such as the Trivia point about the lack of fire in the mirror reflections) would be fine. - 19:03, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
 * I'll add it to trivia (once I think about a way to word it), but I will not include the video link because there's no point in my mind. Thanks again! ✄---Moshata---x  11:57, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

Money
Maximum count of Small Pearls is greater than 76, which only applies if all ghost are vacuumed perfectly. I thought this would be mention worthy.

Beta Theme
Although the beta is creepy, this beta tune is catchy. Kirby kart

Some things I think should be fixed
I think that the beta elements section should be changed. Last time I tried to change something on a wiki, the Ghostbusters wiki went completely insane for a while, so I really don't want to do it. First of all, I'm going to site the http://luigibmansion.proboards.com/ Luigi's Bigger Mansion forums for everything in this request. I would enjoy it if you would take a good read of a few beta findings threads on the forums. Anyway, one example I can give is that the page states that, quote from the preview below the link to the page, "There was also a diffirent game over screen, as it shows the mansion dissapearing and Luigi having a disturbing look on his face." However, this has been debunked multiple times on the forums as just comic relief at the end of the trailer, and was not in fact an unused game over screen. One glaring, ENORMOUS example is that we even mention the "Safari Ghost" at all. The page makes it seem like it was actually in the game at one point, when actually the Japanese version of the game was ALREADY OUT before Nintendo Power ever even released that magazine. There are many mistakes, so I recommend you give the forums a read and change some things. Go to Gaming, and at the top there will be a link to the Luigi's Mansion specific threads. ~2spooky
 * the LM beta page is notoriously poorly sourced, written and organized. Trust me when I say nobody's going to object cleaning up that mess. --Glowsquid (talk) 23:58, 11 August 2014 (EDT)


 * I think I'll go handle it myself personally. Luigi's Mansion is my favorite game of all time and it p*sses me off to see it so horribly taken care of. ~2spooky
 * As said, no one's going to make a big fuss over improving it. For some reason, articles about Luigi's Mansion have a notorious tradition of being of...questionable quality.--Vommack (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2014 (EDT)
 * I personally believe it's because there are SO many rumors regarding Luigi's Mansion that people just believe, even if it was never true. Anyways, fixed up some grammatical errors, deleted a few completely untrue things, and added a part about the model elh. I want to add a reference to TCRF but I don't know how so I just asked on the faq page. ~2spooky