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Merge Category:Personal images in use and Category:Personal images abandoned into Category:Personal images
Hi this is my first proposal. Something that has bugged me is that "Personal images in use" is not under the more simplified title "Personal images" (which is its master category title). The only explanation I can think of is because of the category "Personal images abandoned". If a personal image is unused or abandoned, I believe it is eligible for deletion. Plus there's no images under that category. If this proposal passes, I think its associated template can also be deleted.

Proposer: Deadline: November 13, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - I started this proposal.
 * 2) - Per proposal. I was thinking personal-image-abandoned could be incorporated into the personal-image template, but that'd be kind of pointless if we can just replace the thing with.
 * 3) Maybe instead mark  as  (haha, irony), but other than that, it seems that this is a change I can live with. Per proposal.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per all.
 * Eh, don't see the point of even marking personal images as abandoned as a good old delete/to be deleted template should do.

Oppose

 * 1) I've found some neat stuff in the personal-image-abandoned category in the slightly longer time frame they'd have before deletion, and as such I believe the template itself has merit. As that's part of the proposal, I'm opposing the whole thing.
 * 2) Per Schmeltwick.
 * 3) Per Doc. Also see my comment below.

Comments
The personal image limit is five, so even if you did find an image in the personal images abandoned category, that's one of the five personal images. Would not really be useful to keep around anyway, so.. Results May Vary (talk) 10:07, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * If they get merged, do they at least will be redirects? -- 14:15, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Can't say since i'm not an admin. But the main point is that there isn't a need for more than one personal images category. If it's abandoned, it will show up in Special:UnusedFiles anyway (and be tagged simply Personal images if the proposal passes). Results May Vary (talk) 14:57, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * @Results May Vary: The image only appears in Special:UnusedFiles if it's abandoned for more than a day, which is not likely to happen as admins usally delete things which are marked for deletion in maximum a few hours. 15:06, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Just because you don't think it's useful doesn't mean someone else won't. They're personal images for a reason. And you need to stop deleting them just because they've been replaced on the mainspace. That's rude. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:40, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Using the template will just place the image in Category:To be deleted anyway. I don't see a need for the abandoned template if it just does the exact same thing as the standard  template with a reason saying "Abandoned PI".
 * As for personal images being replaced, I look over whether they're worth keeping or not (factors include if other images on their page have been deleted, the user hasn't been active in several years, and/or they've exceeded the limit).  19:46, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * He was putting images of at least one semi-active user in the deletion category. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * At the moment, the guy has six custom images attributed to him (more than the limit), due to the personal image template linking to his renamed account and his original name. The images that were deleted were replaced with a higher quality version of images that can be used in the mainspace, so he can replace those on his pages if he wants. 20:08, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * I'd still consider this behavior a slippery slope, myself, and encouraging it's just pushing it further. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:11, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Probably, but like I said, I do go over the images marked for deletion, as do the other admins. If something should be kept, we'll keep it, but if there's any mistakes, it can be brought up on our talk pages. 20:14, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Any accidental deletions can usually be restored (unless the thing itself is entirely purged from the server), so I don't think we even have to worry about accidental deletions. I don't find "but there's neat stuff in there" that compelling of an argument to keep that abandoned template. 21:34, 7 November 2018 (EST)

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