User talk:The Shadow Prince/Archive 2

Archive 1

Could you guys give me your friend userboxes again? Which girl do you think is hottest, Peach, Daisy, or Rosalina?

Mario artwork
The reason it needs to be the fortune street artwork is because there was a TPP that decided to use that one so until it's over turned it needs to stay the fortune street artwork.

Span
What's span mean?

Amount of time or somethin' like that :D LuigiBlubber

I mean for your userboxes.

RE: Friend
Of course we can be friends! Here, take this...

Bowser's Kingdom
Does anyone know what the Youtube series Bowser's Kingdom is?

Should I leave?
I've been thinking...maybe I should leave the wiki. What do you think? LuigiBlubber

Um... Is that a yes or a no? LuigiBlubber

The reason i'm leaving is because it gets a little boring. Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages, Get in trouble,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages, Make a mistake,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages, Forget my password,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages, Crack a joke to someone without humor,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages,Edit pages and tell some patroller he screwed up. LuigiBlubber

Yeah, I feel bad for you. There's another reason Mr. Hostile isn't the only person I don't like, there's someone else on here, too. LuigiBlubber

So now you're referring to Prince Ludwig as Mr. Hostile? GreenDisaster (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Could be referring to him, could be referring to someone else! Hehe, you'll never know!


 * Actually, I do know. "One was even because I sent a lastwarn template to Mr. Hostile (if you know who I mean) for being rude again (SMB had a conniption fit over that)". You said that on LuigiBlubber's talk page. The only person you ever sent a last warning to was Prince Ludwig. Let me remind you that referring to users with a derogatory nickname is something you should not be doing. Not here, not anywhere else. GreenDisaster (talk) 09:29, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Why is it he can be mean to me, but I can't be mean to him?

Hi, Bowser Jr. fan!
Hi, Eletrical Bowser Jr! We LOVE Jr. too :D Hey Hey hey hey what do you think about Bowser Jr. in Paper Mario Sticker Star O.O? Pretty cool, hum? We are waiting for his artwork, will be so cute *-* Hey, do you want be our friend? Byee! We will be waiting for your answer!

Ok!
Hi, thanks for accept our request :) Here's the code: {{{userbox|border=#6CA6CD|mainbkgd=#D8BFD8|codecolor=#6CA6CD|code=|msg=This user is friends with Super Candy.}} {{{userbox|border=#6CA6CD|mainbkgd=#D8BFD8|codecolor=#6CA6CD|code=|msg=This user is friends with Super Candy.}} Bye! :D

RE:Water Mushroom
Well, it's good but I need a picture... And don't wanna make it myself 09:15, 6 September 2012 (EDT)

pmss
The realease date for paper mario: ss is 11th november.;)World 6 (talk) P.S can we be freinds.World 6 (talk) 23:42, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

RE:Tail Gloomba
Oh, uuh... thanks :D And the question is...? 08:24, 19 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Alright... You've 36 stars and just unlocked one galaxy. Which one? 12:33, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Correct!
Correct answer! You'll get 5 Mega Tradeshrooms and 1 Golden! Which means 10,000! 15:28, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Here!
Here's the Tail Gloomba. He's 10 years old and his brain currently developes. His IQ is around 168 now, but it'll increase a lot. You give him name. Take good care of him! 15:43, 19 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Well, that's not my problem :P 13:48, 20 September 2012 (EDT)

Have an E-Mail?
Do you? LuigiBlubber

Oh, I'm sorry! I would phone you but it would be...well...awkward. If I get to know your other interests rather than Mario we could probably chat. LuigiBlubber

Bowsers kingdom
I already watched the series ;) LuigiBlubber

Hal. LuigiBlubber

RE: Sorry
It's alright this stuff happens every now and then.

Userbox?
Hi... do you have an userbox? Or do you need help to create one? 13:23, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

Alright, this can help you. If not, then contact me :) 13:49, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

"Span" is a code for the text font, color etc. Example:  would be:

World10 13:58, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

Sorry, but what exactly do you mean? 14:07, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

This actually gives you help. 14:13, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

Reminder

 * Template removed by the administrators.

Hey buddy, there are several hazards if you message someone with your phone number, others might phone-stalk you when they see it. -- 14:49, 30 September 2012 (EDT)


 * This isn't a Reminder-worthy offense so the admins removed the template, but MarioSmasher is right: you really shouldn't post information like that in public. I removed your phone number from the talk page you posted it on and deleted your revision to further mask the info. For your own safekeeping, please don't do something like this again. - 07:36, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

RE:Bits
No... 09:30, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Re: Friend
Sure! :)

Here's my friend userbox:

That someone
Hey, that someone isn't being a jerk anymore (or so I think). But I still don't talk on discussion pages while he's online. He deletes what I say. But anyhoo, hows it going? LuigiBlubber

I don`t know why I like Hal. Well, now he just edits main pages. No more talk pages. Oh, btw way I changed ``that word`` to ``jolly good fellow``. LuigiBlubber

King Dedede theme
Which theme do you want? He has a whole bunch. LuigiBlubber

Darn, I don't have that one. I was going to get Kirby's Epic Yarn before you even told me which game but I changed my mind. LuigiBlubber

Negative Zone
Luigi's Negative Zone is awesome! Comment if you agree!

Everyone likes it! Oh, and yeah I have Brawl. My bro has the first one in the series, too. LuigiBlubber

Yeah, it's my favorite one. LuigiBlubber

Featured Images
I made a proposal. Btw what do you mean all your proposal's are a mess? Most of them got featured. LuigiBlubber

HAHAHA
YOU ARE ANOTHER BOWSER JUNIOR! YOU ARE MY FAN!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAAH ok ok, I won't order you to steal or destroy anything from my rival and your friend, Mr. Green Blubber. THANKS FOR BE MY MINION!!!! You have my respect. he he he... See ya

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA YES, I WILL DO THIS... But you know some patrollers? I'm new here.

Ok, Ok, BUT I'M COUNTING THE SECONDS! Just kidding he he he he... Hey, you said in your UserTalk that you wanted a record of King Dedede theme, don't ya? Did you mean the mp3 music? I can do this for you. Ludwig have some Soundtracks here, I can ask him if he has this theme.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA YOU ARE GOOD, DUDE! YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD! HAHAHAHAHAHHA Yes, yes hahahahaa this is very evil! heheheheh......but, what picture I steal from them? (See your Ex-Rival's User Talk, I send it MWAHAHAHAHAHHA)

Uuuuhh... Got it. Wait. Steal a picture of who? Patroller's or PrinceLudwig's? .-.

HEEEEYYY LOOK WHAT I HAVE DONE, THIS APPEARS IN MY USER TALK:

Uuh... Help?

Haaahh!! I did it! I talked with Ludwig about this before comment the warning, I think it worked O_o I'll talk to him again today, ok? Don't worry, we aren't dead :D But I didn't steal nothing from him yet! But you have been promoted to my loyal advisor! Congratulations, dude! But now we have to find Mario to destroy his life! he he he!

Oh No! I better tell Mario...LuigiBlubber

Yeah
Don't worry about it! Actually was me that put "this user hates ShellMario" in his userbox, before was "friend" BUT HE'S NOT MY FRIEND! I hate him, but he never answer me after our "fight", so I won't talk to him anymore. BUT I WILL FIRE HIM AND THROWN A GIANT BULLET BILL IN HIS HEAD!!

Hey, I haven't your userbox, can you give it to me?

Seems our plan doesn't works again, but no problem, we failed together! :D I'm waiting for your userbox

Last Warning
- For what you've been doing to Prince Ludwig. Getting Master Bowser Jr. to give him a bogus warning was the worst offence (especially after your own attempts to warn Prince Ludwig were removed and earned you a warning), but all the snippy remarks you've been making at his expense while talking to other users are just as unacceptable. Your flippant attitude towards the admins is also doing you no favours, such as your advice to Master Bowser Jr. about stealing from a patroller for the express purpose of annoying them. This kind of disruptive behaviour towards other users is not tolerated in this community: please shape up your act, or we really will block you next time. - 08:42, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Mario Kart Universe
Do you want to give me ideas for the probably-upcoming Mario Kart game for the Wii U? If so, sign up here.

Ummm... what ideas do you want? Like characters and courses? And why? 12:04, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, those. I want to be creative.

Ok, I'll sign up. 12:12, 17 October 2012 (EDT)

I can give ideas for retro courses. 11:20, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

Wut...there's a new MK? The Amazing Luigi

No. We're just making a fan game. You can join if you want.

Sure. I guess there could be a Paper Mario course, and for characters the Koopalings. Another idea is being able to change colour schemes, like in Brawl. The Amazing Luigi

Re:Sorry
Trying to antagonize GreenDisaster is the exact same kind of behaviour that earned you a Last Warning for harassing Prince Ludwig over his overly-aggressive opposition of your proposals. It doesn't matter if the other party's an admin or a user: them being a bit too aggressive (in your opinion) doesn't give you any right to try and anger them. Keep it professional, or say nothing at all. - 07:35, 24 October 2012 (EDT)

Uh
Don't worry, dude, it's ok. Why you don't make one? That's nice. Hey, we can play with your friend, Luigi! I think he don't like me enough to play.... He's playful :D

3DS
Did your parents let you get one yet? The Amazing Luigi

Yes!
Hum, you're right...but who? I know about MushoroomMan3, but I want to destroy a existent-real Toad '-' Hm, I gonna put this guy inside a "? Block" he he he he Hey, do you destroy some lifes in Halloween? .-. Before yesterday my dad said: "You must play with koopalings, jr. You never play with them, now, GO. Computer today NO." lol Do Wayoshi is your "pet"? Do you want me edit your image? I did not posted yet, but if you like it, I gonna post :D Looks like he made the upgrade for you before me... so..... ok then, if you don't liked, you could have told me....but thanks anyway

I saw the new version made by The Amazing Luigi in File page, but ok

Eet's updated...
Look, I updated the picture I made for you...If you can't see the updated version click on it. The Amazing Luigi

It takes a few days for pictures to be updated...I thought you updated images before. The Amazing Luigi


 * Hey, try refreshing the page. It works for me every time.


 * 08:18, 17 November 2012 (EST)

FA's
Please refrain from nominating articles that have improvement templates and future nominations of articles with improvement templates will result in a formal reminder.

Uh... You're welcome
Lol, he's now a good guy :D 14:16, 20 November 2012 (EST)
 * Hm, that's weird. 14:29, 20 November 2012 (EST)

RE: Acorn Plains
How come? :o The Amazing Luigi ( Talk )

RE: Idea
Of course, we can be friends! But I mean a new section in my shop... or do you mean just on my userpage? Razzoom &#34;MarioKart&#34; Johnson, Senior. (talk) 14:27, 21 November 2012 (EST)

Tip
You should remove the  template because it adds a category to articles that are nominated. However, you can copy the source of the template and not add the category. 16:08, 24 November 2012 (EST)

Picture Talk
Dear Electric Bowser Jr.

You think that Bowser Jr. picture is awesome???

I think so too.

Greetings, Mister F

No
It's not wiki related

RE: Wii points
1$ = 100 wii points. --Glowsquid (talk) 12:58, 4 December 2012 (EST)
 * No, you need to be part of the poll committee.--Glowsquid (talk) 18:33, 8 December 2012 (EST)

Rude?
How could I be rude? How was I insulting? Can't I share my opposing opinion on something proposed, especially by you? -- 12:34, 7 December 2012 (EST)

RE: Upload
Hey Electrical Dude. It would be a pleasure to teach you how to upload images, but my classes start in a few minutes so I'll be able to take my time to run you through it in about seven hours (I'm not sure what time that is for you).

16:10, 9 December 2012 (EST)

How to upload a file
Okay, this is how you upload a file. First, follow the link which says Upload file. This can be found on the sidebar under "toolbox". Next, you will reach a form which requires several fields to be filled. Let's start from the top. The first field (or box) requires you to find a file to upload. This can be done by clicking the "Browse" button, where you are able to search your computer files for the image you wish to upload. After you've found it, click "open" and you will be brought back to the file page. The image you selected can now be seen already preloaded. The box directly below the first, on the other hand, can be used to upload an image directly from a website rather than from your computer. (personally, I find it easier to upload images from my computer).

After you have done either of the above, the third box down will specify the "destination filename". This should be filled automatically after entering a file in one of the first two boxes, so don't worry about it too much. The fourth box down contains a code for the template. This is used to neatly lay out information about an image. For instructions for correctly formatting the template, see instructions at. After you have formatted Aboutfile, you should also put in the box a category to tag the image with for the game it pertains to. For example, if you were uploading an image related to the game Mario Kart Wii, you would tag the image with.

The next box is a drop-down menu, which contains many licenses to tag the image with. Picking a license should be easy; just pick a description which most suits the image you are uploading. Wondering why an image even needs a license? See here! So after you have selected a license, you will see two check boxes. One says "Watch this file", which if left checked, will add the page to your watchlist. The second checkbox will ignore any warnings/cautions when in the process of uploading a file. Warning can include notifications about a duplicate file already on the wiki, or if the file is too large (above ten MB). I recommend that you leave it unchecked.

And finally, when you have completed all above instructions, you are ready to upload! Do this by clicking the big button that says "Upload file". After the image is uploaded to the wiki, you can go ahead and put it on articles. See Help:Image if you don't already know how to do this. Also, if you are uploading an image that you wish to use on your userspace only, then tag it with instead of a category. See Personal images for further info on that subject.

Additionally, you can also upload a new version of an image by following said link on an already existing file. The upload form is much the same as when normally uploading a file, but instead you replace the "Aboutfile" text with a reason for the reupload (example, "larger" or "better quality"). After reuploading, just refresh the page so the new version of the image appears immediately. Also, you can revert a file to an earlier version by clicking the "revert" link on a "file history" section of a file. But only do this when necessary.

Double check out Image Use Policy for some more handy tips. Well, I think that's everything. If I have left something out, or if you have any further questions, then just message me again on my talk page.

04:44, 10 December 2012 (EST)

RE: Userbox
Try putting a  at the end (after  ). That should fix it.

08:13, 14 December 2012 (EST)

Re: Poll
They do an election every July.

Yus
Yus, I decided to leave. The Amazing Luigi ( Talk )

Userbox
Thanks, there's mine: See ya. P.S.: Merry Christmas :)

Your userbox
Hi, Electrical Bowser Jr.! Oh, I was in your userpage and I saw your userbox...It's better you fix it...but I can help you:

Note: The Master Bowser Jr.'s code was incomplete, I fix it. My code is here:

Bye :) Merry Christmas!


 * ^^ thank you! That soundtrack is soooooo awesoomee! I go crazy when I play Bowser Jr.'s minigames and he goes MMAAADD and that music starts! Master Bowser Jr. gave it for you, huh? I'm happy to help you! And you're welcome! Byeee 06:58, 5 January 2013 (EST)
 * Huh, okay, the Userbox is yours, and not mine, right? :) Put it if you want

Yes
Yes, your best friend is leaving, and that's really sad. But I'm active, if you want talk with me, I'll be here ;)

Breakdown
Oh, sure, take the theme, I've uploaded already for you, if you want add in your UserPage, use this code: Bowser Jr.'s Mad I don't know if this is music that you said before, but I like that :) I've uploaded the "normal" music too: Bowser Jr. Breakdown Just choose one of 'em, ok? Sorry, dude, I don't have a 3DS yet.   18:46, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Bowser Jr. Awesomeness!
I see that we're both like elemental Bowser Jr.'s! Would you like to be my friend? Here's my userbox- -- 15:12, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Reply
You remove the section, without inspecting first. As i mention, unless all confirmed facts in the section are in place, the construction template remains.

RE: Patroller
Thanks!

21:27, 4 January 2013 (EST)

RE: Help
Done. I'm not really familiar with the subject, so feel free to reword it.

23:54, 4 January 2013 (EST)

RE: MK7
Hi! I think you'll have to get another admin to remove the oppose votes. I'm neutral on your nomination, because I don't have Mario Kart 7, therefore I wouldn't know if there was anything I could suggest for the article. Also I don't think you can vote to remove all of the oppose votes in the one go, as each of them have slightly different reasons. Either they choose to remove their opposes of their own accord, or you nominate each voter one by one.

Oh, and thanks for the music. I like it!

09:39, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Idea
Sure, we can destroy Wario's head! HA HA HA HA We have to find Wario to kidnap him and make a brainwash........Oh, do you wanna know about dad and koopalings? Well, they're fine, the koopalings are messing my room right now............damn it, wait here, dude. ............... LERRY STOP TO PICK MY THINGS AND THROW AT WENDY!!! STOP DOING THAT, YOU BUNCH OF BUGS! YOU GUYS, GET OUTTA THIS ROOM, NOW! Done. And Papa is planning a new way to kill Mario, OH, HE HAD A IDEA! He'll kidnap Peach! Do you know if this will work? ¬___¬ Well, they are fine. So, I saw you giving my themes for the people, I gave my themes for you, not for the people. I don't like so much this act, was me that uploaded and I have the credits, but ok, the themes are yours, soooo..... that's it ;) P.S.: I'll battle with Razzoom someday, do you wanna be my partner?

Pieces
Do you have the game? And do you mean the desert world? 13:02, 9 January 2013 (EST)

Sure! Here are the pieces:
 * W2-1: You need to jump down to the quicksand between two cactuses. Somewhere in the middle of the level.
 * W2-2: It's on the giant Yoshi's tounge. When reaching the goal, go to a room to the left and you'll end up on the Yoshi's eyes. Slide down to the chest and you'll fight Kamek.
 * W2-4: Use Vaccuum to get rid of the strong wind and you'll need the Tap/Faucet on a vase. After that, go in a house and the last piece is in a closet.

I hope this helped, if not ask someone else because I'm bad at explaining things me for more details. 13:15, 9 January 2013 (EST)

Sorry
My 3DS won't connect to internet for some reason @~@ So there's no reason to give my FC to you now. 18:17, 12 January 2013 (EST)

Friend Request
Hey. It's User:Mariobros1985 AKA Yoshi@:/, and I was just wondering, could you add me to your friends list and exchange userboxes?

Yoshi's island feature
Sure thing. Shall I create a new page about the GBA remake and move that section?

Ugh... I'm terribly sorry, but I don't know how to move the Super Mario Advance 3 page because when I try to create it, it says that the page exists, but it only redirects to the original article! Could you please help? -Thanks Signed Yoshi@:/

re:3ds
don't even own a 3ds so no idea lol --Glowsquid (talk) 12:42, 15 January 2013 (EST)

RE: Friend Code
Why do you want it?

--Razzoom &#34;MarioKart&#34; Johnson, Senior (talk) 13:05, 16 January 2013 (EST)

Hey there. I know I am a sockpuppet of Mariobros1985, but I just want to say 1 thing. I'm really sorry that I couldn't help you with the Yoshi's Island feature. I got blocked when I shouldn't have... And now it's permanent. Oh well, good luck out there without me. Signed- Yoshi@:/

RE: 3DS
Hey Ethan. Sorry, but I don't exchange friend codes.

08:07, 17 January 2013 (EST)

RE: Friend Code
Sorry, Electrical Bowser jr., but I haven't a 3DS Ç.Ç But I have the Wii's Friend Code :D

Friend Code
If I give you mine you give me yours, okay?

Razzoom &#34;MarioKart&#34; Johnson, Senior (talk) 11:13, 17 January 2013 (EST)

Brainwash
Bad idea to brainwash him. He's too fat and he's punching me A LOT. I had to call my dad to give him a shot with a Assault Rifle German Suplex punch in his brain, I think he's dead now... What I have to do? Not yet, he's falling, as you said, but some koopas arrested him in a chair, now I'm waiting for Kamek come to start the brainwashing. Dad's crazy to see Wario as a slave in the castle! he he he How's Wayoshi? :D
 * (___) I wake and brainwash him
 * (___) Send him to an undertaker
 * (___) Search for someone slimmer
 * (___) To thank my father

I HAVE BRAINWASHED WARIO!!!! Kamek lost his time and magic to make this, but its okay, he said. We made him wash the dishes in the castle, but he's stupid enough to break the most of them --' Wayoshi can teach him to be smart, right? :D

Battle
THE BATTLE GOT STARTED! Let's give to Razzoom and Super Candy a good humiliation!

I think so! Razzoom is dead already?

We have to wait that losers give us a present! HAHAHA We're invincible! I WANT A GRAND STAR!!!


 * Sorry guys, but I killed you two yesterday with my Sweet Super Candy Gun. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m38wegpDtN1ql8x6xo1_250.gif


 * No, no, no, you two were hit by a Candy gun, you're with -100.000.000% HP me and Razzoom are the winner it's a TIE.


 * LOOOOLL ~le shaking my finger~ Uh-uh, the things doesn't work in this way, you were on crack a little dizzy cuz you ate a lot of candies (IT'S FREE!) (after all, this is not a bad thing, but anyway) and possible you are thinking that you and M.B.J. won. (It's a TIE)


 * Yep, I see, but I'm alive too, so it's a TIE ~sweet smile/~deal with it/~touche/~the battle'll never end/~the legend will never die/~ok, this is stupid LOL

RE:Garden
Sorry, I don't really remember. You have to paperize something on a wall. 14:50, 20 January 2013 (EST)

Re:E3 2013
June 11th to the 13th.

08:26, 24 January 2013 (EST)

SIR!
I think you are in PURGATORY whilst being in Dimension X. I, Razzoom, can help you and MBJ get the hell out of there!

Only if I want...

Razzoom &#34;MarioKart&#34; Johnson, Senior (talk) 06:45, 29 January 2013 (EST)

HEY We are not in the PURGATORY!!!! I don't want to stay there!!! I can call my Koopa Clawn to get out with EBJ!!!

Sorry again
But, I don't want to tell it here. 14:01, 31 January 2013 (EST)

RE: ???
See the Wikipedia page.

08:13, 2 February 2013 (EST)

Brainwash 2
Yeah, I think it worked... I guess... He's too idiot in my castle, do you want him for you? Maybe Wayoshi could teach him, what do you think?
 * Clown Car takes us out of "Dimension X" :D*

Re: ???
Just go to here, choose a nickname, type any line and you will be Ok.
 * For more information see here

-- 14:35, 6 February 2013 (EST)

Feature Toad Town
The article Toad Town has now had a 5-0 support vote to be a featured article for over a week now, but I'm unsure of how to feature it, please can you help?

RE: Chat
I will chat later. Not to be mean or anything, but, try to avoid posting new messages on my talk page everytime you want to chat, since it is kinda bothersome to have over nine thousand messages about the same thing. I will be there in a few hours though. :) ---

Wanna be friends?
if you do i will be glad!

put this on your userboxes:

Here is a gift I hope you like, Enjoy!

Tell me Did you like it?


 * If you have any troubles just contact me.

RE:Goombas
Yes, Goomba is my favorite Mario character along with Yoshi. 12:42, 11 February 2013 (EST)

I don't know. I'd say Peach and Daisy. 17:28, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Hi!
Hi uh, EBJ, I have something to say to you, please enter on the chat someday :) And yeah, I hope Wayoshi can help that stupid! :D

RE:Vs. Marx
I'm sorry, I don't have that file. 13:23, 19 February 2013 (EST)

RE: Featured Articles
Three at a time, as mentioned here. Extra ones qualify for deletion.

15:30, 19 February 2013 (EST)

Empty Section
I'm not exactly sure why you're asking me, but an article is in violation of the Empty Section Policy when one or more of its sections contain nothing but a link to a sub-page. In Mario Kart 7 ' s case, its Gallery, Beta Elements, Media, Glitches, and Staff are all violating the policy. If you want to know exactly what to do so that the sections are not in violation of the policy, go to the page that covers the policy and look for yourself. GreenDisaster (talk) 08:55, 20 February 2013 (EST)
 * I've already linked you to the policy. Look at it, and follow the guidelines that it clearly states. GreenDisaster (talk) 09:12, 20 February 2013 (EST)