Talk:Super Mario Galaxy 2

Characters
Who has seen luma? Because when I saw the trailer I did not see luma and wouldn't rosalina be included if there were lumas? --Count b 21:04, 3 June 2009 (EDT) Count b


 * If you see Mario running away from the two Banzai Bills, he'll Spin jump and a Luma appears briefly after him. -- 21:18, 3 June 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah. I said Luma, not Lumas, because so far there's only the one Luma that Mario had with him in the previous game that appears whenever he does a spin jump. - 08:59, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

I see so that means rosalina is in the game because in the first one rosalina gave mario luma so I am going to put rosalina for now. --Count b 11:59, 4 June 2009 (EDT) Count b
 * That's a bit too speculative. Just wait until we have some evidence. Just because something is "most likely" in the game, it isn't confirmed. - 13:41, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
 * Luma's appearance doesn't confirm Rosalina's. In Mario Power Tennis (GBA version), Waluigi is playable, but Wario isn't. --Grandy02 14:10, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes, yes, understood. --Count b 17:54, 4 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

Hey, I have a screenshot of part of the game derived from a bigger picture. Should I include the whole picture of just the screenshot? 16:46, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

You should probably put just the screenshot unless the image contains more screenshots of this game which then you should take each screen and cut them seperately and upload them one at a time. --Count b 17:09, 8 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

Ok. 17:28, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Well if star bunnies appear than that could mean lumas appear to.

Well i think that mega-leg type creature is probaly going to be called a "mini-leg"


 * I don't want to sound offensive, but come on! Stop your unnecessary speculation because we all know that will no be it!

Confirmed Galaxies
Where exactly where those galaxies confirmed? Or are they just speculatively confirmed? - 13:49, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

It appears speculative. If it is actually confirmed, then a reference/footnote/piece of bibliography would be at the bottom of the article. Feel free to remove it. --RAP 13:53, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

New items
   

Not sure whether any of these have been found/noticed. Also, can anyone point out to me where there's a "switch that stops time"? 16:47, 15 June 2009 (EDT)


 * If you see the trailer, Mario appears to be switching a "clock"-like switch with the spin jump that turns the environment color into gray, and everything moves slowly.
 * The "switch that stops time" appears in the E3 trailer at 1:33. When Mario hits the switch, the screen goes black & white, and the platforms stop rotating. The part in the trailer is too short to find out whether the time actually halted or just slowed down.
 * We definitely noticed some previously unseen items - two of them are the power-ups for Yoshi we already mentioned in the article. The other items don't really have a place in the article because we don't have the slightest idea what they do. - 16:59, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

Looks like the powers ups for Yoshi are some type of fruit. Stick2012 22:45, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Also item boxes from Mario Kart series make their debut on a Mario 3-D Adventure Game, only that with a different appearence. Also the winged ? Block appears MasterBlaster3000

The peaches from Super Mario world reappear, probably serving the purpose of awarding Mario one coin when eaten with Yoshi. Mariomaruf

Why not try shaking it to use the powerup before eating with the B Button. Devanwolf

Two things. The spinning mario kart like items boxes have at least one side with a red and black bowser face (like the ones in the red mushroom houses in the New Super Mario Bros Wii), a 1-up and gold coin. I guess you hit it and something randomly happens. Secondly, add crate to the list, there's one in the background whilst inflatable Yoshi is on the screen. The Last Stop

Release date
I found these release dates on my gamestop's games coming out when section and Super Mario galaxy 2 is 1/1/10. Can we put this on? And also NSMBwii is 11/2/09. So can we?


 * That's just a placeholder they put into their database. January 1st sounds like a very unlikely day to release a new game. - 18:45, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

Ok. If the nsmbwii one is real, they'll most likely reveal it when BiS comes out.

Actually, Booderdash (that's fun to say! lol), your wrong! It's 2/1/10. Yeah I saw it the other day so. - &#91;&#91;User:brandman1996&#124;Brandman 18:27, 30 December 2009 (EST)
 * Where did you hear that? Its likely to be false because Nintendo hasn't revealed anything.

Not that I'm sure that it really does, but I've heard that it comes Spring 2010. --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 16:02, 21 February 2010 (EST)


 * There's a discussion below about this, and it is stated it won't come out after summer.

3-D series
Should we go ahead and consider it part of the 3-D series?

Well, yeah. It is a 3-D game so why not.--fawfulfury65 16:32, 17 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Hey,...
Is it true that Luigi and Wario are in this? If so, post a screenshot or video. User:DK Fan
 * I'm removing them before a source is given. - 14:21, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Honeyhive?
That "planet with an Item Box"... doesn't it look like the Honeyhive and Gold Leaf Galaxy?? --King Bean My Page! Talk to me! Visit the queen! 09:40, 8 September 2009 (EDT)

It does look like it, doesn't it.
 * Sort of.... 08:44, 4 October 2009 (EDT)

Similarly, doesn't the galaxy in the trailer where Mario uses the time switch remind you of Buoy Base?

yoshi in it?
i don't know yoshi's abilities but why the heck is he in this game!!!!!!!!!

He's in the game because the designers thought that he should be in the game. Nothing more to say.

Because He's awesome! He has a HUGE fanbase! And... the reason FwfulFury said... - &#91;&#91;User:brandman1996&#124;Brandman 18:30, 30 December 2009 (EST)

The Source Please
Where's everybody getting this information? User:DK Fan
 * What information? - 10:01, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 * The Grand Star returning, plus Paratroopa's inclusion! User:DK Fan

Our only confirmed source is the E3 trailer, if anything is not in there, it's not confirmed. - 12:03, 8 November 2009 (EST)


 * But then again, there is a high possibility that the E3 will some Beta elements.--

Then it will require someone to find beta elements... How would we find them?? --

We need to compare new videos of certain parts of the game to the E3 trailer and see if the new one has anything different to it. Although there aren't many other videos on SMG2 yet...

Well surely some must be coming soon, now that nsmb wii is over it's the closest upcoming mario game also if you look carefully a paragoomba appears

Release Date?
Well, I got a little antsy about waiting to find out this game's release. So I checked a few websites. There is nothing on Nintendo.com, but on video game central.com it says the release is Febuary 10th 2010. This would Make sense becuase Miyamoto said that Nintendo is far along in development for this game. However, I have no idea if this is correct, and Feb. 10th sounds a bit random. What do you guys Think?Ratfink43

I don't think they'd lie about something like that. I think its true, but lets see other people's opinions on this. Can it be true?

Nintendo games in North America usually are released on Mondays and sometimes Sunday. If 10 Febuary 2010 is not on Monday or Sunday, it's most likely fake. In Japan and Australia, Nintendo games are released on Thuresday and in Europe on Friday. I hope this information might help.
 * In Europe it's always a Friday, true. I don't think they are lying about a release date, but they just put in a filler into their database. Until we get official confirmation, we shouldn't put anything in the article. - 14:08, 2 December 2009 (EST)

On Nintendo.com, you can put the games list in release date order. SMG2 of course doesn't have an exact release date(TBA), but it is between the games, "Glory of Heracles", which will be released Jan. 18, and "Shiren the Wanderer", which will be released on Feb. 9. Since it is between those games in release date order(besides the other TBA games) it may be released somewhere Jan 18th - Feb 9th. It might.
 * That is VERY unlikely considering nobody has ever played the game or seen it in action, so far we only had one trailer. There is no way they will release the game in Q1. - 10:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
 * I heard that Nintendo was just finishing SMG2, though. So, it shouldn't take that too much longer to be released.

But also, I agree with Cobold, I think that it'll be released in Q2 (From Abril to July)-- 15:27, 3 December 2009 (EST)

Mario Galaxy 2
Mario galaxy 2I heard that Mario Galaxy is coming out on Febuary 21, 2009!!!

What?

Could you please elaborate and tell us how you came across this information? And I assume you meant 2010?

He obvioulsy doesnt know what he says. -- 17:22, 8 December 2009 (EST)

"Main Page - Super Mario Wiki" WTF?! ¬¬' --

Recent Changes
Let me just say, there isn't much info on this game, so I watch this site very closely. I couldn't help but notice that there were changes made (They were changed back) Were they just being stupid, or have they seen something I haven't? They mentioned dolphins as characters, a cheep-cheep mushroom and that there would be 7 Power ups and 5 Fruits for Yoshi. So tell me, why did they make this up, or is some of it true?--The Last Stop


 * Then I supposed it was a vandal who wrote that.

Bowser
Who put Bowser as one of the characters? He's not confirmed, and his statue might just be a cameo. Mr. Anon 23:43, 15 December 2009 (EST)

Bowser and Bowser Jr.'s Airships have been shown, therefore it's assumed that they will be characters. OhlawdsHunter


 * True.--


 * Come on, man! If you see Bowser's statue and airships and it's Super Mario Galaxy Bowser's gotta be there!

He won't not be in the game if we just remove him from the list. It's not a big deal, just add him when he's really confirmed. We're not here to make speculation, however accurate it may be. - 11:49, 16 December 2009 (EST)


 * Mmmmm, Ok.

Rosalina?
Is Rosalina going to be in this one, it would make sense for her to be in it--Daaviiid 11:28, 21 December 2009 (EST)
 * Could be, but we're waiting for a proper confirmation until we add her to the list. - 13:28, 21 December 2009 (EST)

Super Mario Galaxy 2 Galaxies
Some Galaxies I found were Broiler Boiler Galaxy, Cloudy Caper Galaxy, Driftwood Galaxy, Humonguos Fungus Galaxy, and Mushroom Melody Galaxy. - Shadoo Geno
 * Where did you find them? - 08:31, 22 December 2009 (EST)
 * Either a fan site that had bad info or he made them up himself. There's no real way someone could've of found the galaxy names before Nintendo has any info on it.
 * That's pretty much why I asked him for a source. - 08:53, 22 December 2009 (EST)

I found them on google!

Another one is Planet Boo Galaxy.


 * Pure speculation. The information you found was from a website.
 * What did you mean about "not exactly"?

Do you count google as a website? Shadoo Geno. I have A picture of Broiler Boiler Galaxy. super-mario-galaxy-20060914080419050_640w

Can you give us a link to it? Or upload it or something?

They are fan made galaxies. Someone on youtube composed music and put them to backgrounds. Someone also made fake animations based on some of the trailer levels. The Last Stop

Hmm...I think that they are fan-made...sorry Shadoo Geno but Google is only a Website searcher and not a website...and I much cases this only is a result of the imagination of a person...-- 21:37, 22 December 2009 (EST)

Super Mario Galaxy 2 Bosses
I heard a rumor about two new bosses, Icy Dino Pirhana and Bone Daddy(Big Dry Bones). Bowser and Bowser Jr. are also expected as bosses in this game. I'm also going to try and find the name of the Megaleg creature. Shadoo Geno
 * We need sources and references for the article, not just random guesses. - 15:59, 22 December 2009 (EST)
 * I say the same of before here =/...-- 21:38, 22 December 2009 (EST)


 * Yeah, what Cobold and Mateo said. They'd be cool bosses though, but no info has been released.--


 * NO MOAR SPECUMALATION!!!

Dark Mario & Identical Planet
I Have a piece of important information. In the E3 trailer during the "Dark Marios" scene some dark marios are seen following and mimicing him, which may mean that they act like mario and copy him in moving, but some Dark Marios were jumping and running on their own so are they obstacles or enemies. And another thing is that another planet looks identical to the planet which the Luma transforms in Good Egg Galaxy. User:MarioMaster720 23.12.2009


 * We all know that. The planet stuff was actually in the article.

okay, yeah i saw the planet article too now, but i wonder if that identical planet is a clue to that maybe the game will feature some galaxies or planets from Super Mario Galaxy. User:MarioMaster720 CHRISTMAS.2009


 * That was also in the article.

Bowser
Bowser is not yet confirmed to be in in the game. Why is he in the character list? Just becuase there is an Ice Sculpture and Airships doesent mean Bowser is confirmed. While his apperance is very likley, it is not confirmed. Supermariofan14 said if Bowser's airship is there then Bowser has to be there. The airships do not confirm Bowser's apperance becuase A new enemy might have taken Bowser's airships just like the Subspace stole Meta Knight's Halbred Ship in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Ah, who am I kidding. Nintendo very rarley makes new villians, and for major non-RPG games like this one they ALWAYS use Bowser. I say we leave Bowser there until it is confirmed he isint there.
 * It doesn't matter whether it's likely or not. It matters whether it's confirmed or not. And Bowser himself is not confirmed. - 12:37, 28 December 2009 (EST)


 * Besides, being Super Mario Galaxy, I'm 99% sure Bowser is in the game, you're right, Ratfink43. Anyways, let's take him out.

E3 Rewind theatre
Thought I might add that the E3 Rewind theate has a trailer that goes over more information. Just type in "Super Mario Galaxy 2 E3 Rewind Theater" on Youtube.
 * I think we already have the contents of the trailer represented in the article. If there's anything we've been missing, just add it. - 12:34, 28 December 2009 (EST)

Locked?
Why is the article locked? There is a tiny bit more information to add than what is there. As in the fact we don't know how big of a role yoshi play's or if you can even take him out of a level like New Super Mario Bros. Wii does. And all the planets in the video are not confirmed, and the fact that from the dark mario's... more of Super Mario 128 is coming into play, hence the multible playable Mario's. Well, could someone high-up please edit the info? Thanks, Brandman1996 :D 22:46, 31 December 2009 (EST)


 * Your account has to be at least one week old, sorry. :(--

Crates
I noticed that in the trailer for this game there is a crate similar to the crates in the Super Smash Bros Series.


 * The first Super Mario Galaxy already had those. - 09:07, 1 January 2010 (EST)

Wooden thing
That wooden creature looks like broque monsieur and broque madame.User:mr bones
 * Like what? - 07:47, 2 January 2010 (EST)

Broque Monsieur ,the block collector in Mario and Luigi:Bowser's inside storyUser:mr bones
 * I don't think they look like Broque at all.
 * They have little to no similarities.
 * Well, it slightly looks like them, and that's all. It's a coincidence.
 * Why does it matter?

Reused planets
It says in the article that it was wrongly assumed that Nintendo would reuse planets for Super Mario Galaxy 2. But, I remember from the trailer, There is a planet that Mario and Yoshi were on that looked exactly like the planet from the Good Egg Galaxy From the previous games.
 * Yeah I noticed that a while back too. But it looks like it had a few minor adjustments and changes.


 * Well there is that one Yoshi head planet and a Buoy Base lookalike.--


 * This is like the third time this conversation takes place here.

Bowser Block
In the trailer at the begining you can see a pinning block in the background that presumably drops differnt items. One side of the block appars to have the bowser symbol on it, so can we assume that he'll be in the game because of that?--LuigiBros64
 * That's a lot of speculation put into one little block. - 12:50, 12 January 2010 (EST)


 * It's the same as the airships. That doesn't confirm it.


 * you make a good point supermariofan. I also wanted to point out the block too.LuigiBros64

possible release date?
I just went to Gamestop today and asked about pre-ordering Super Mario Galaxy 2 and they told me it would come out June 1, 2010. Could this be it? 21:54, 24 January 2010 (EST)
 * June 1 is a Tuesday. Sounds pretty random to me. - 13:45, 25 January 2010 (EST)
 * Didn't Super Mario Galaxy come out on a Monday? --
 * Yes, I think it did... at least I remember it being a weekday, and Nintendo only releases games on Mondays and Saturdays from what I've heard. I heard a rumor that SMG2 was coming out on August 27th in Europe.
 * Dunno, my friend says it'll come out in December. We can't be sure.
 * Makes, sense why that could not be it because nintendo.com still has it for TBA. But since when has the release date of galaxy ever had anything to do with the release date of this game?
 * In America, 64 came out on September 29, 1996, Sunshine came out on August 26, 2002, and galaxy came out on November 12, 2007. Which of those were on the same day? or even the same month?
 * Well... August 26 is very close to August 27. But what do these release dates do with SMG2's release date?

@Fawfulfury: I don't know where you heard the Saturday/Monday thing, but Super Mario Galaxy was released in Japan on a Thursday, Europe on a Friday, and Australia on a Tuesday. --


 * I thought it was only Monday and Sunday... Anyway, right now, why don't we just wait until Nintendo confirms the date?

Acually I went to Gamestop and they said June 6..............do you live in America, General Bob-omb?Ratfink43

Official Information has been released. Metroid Other M will come out in summer, and Galaxy a bit later, but it's not yet confirmed. June 6 is too early..

OK fine we will wait but can I have a source please?Ratfink43


 * "The third quarter financial reports briefing has been posted online and it gives a hint as to what Nintendo has planned for the coming year. A majority of the report talks about sales figures and also has tons of different software and hardware charts, showcasing the Nintendo Wii, DS, and their competitors. Towards the end of the report there is a brief segment about upcoming software releases. In particular Metroid Other M has been revealed to have a Summer 2010 release date, Super Mario Galaxy 2 will launch later this year, and the Legend of Zelda will be shown off at this years E3.

''Super Mario Galaxy 2, a Mario action title in 3D world, will be launched this year. And, we will show the new Zelda title for Wii at this year’s E3.''"


 * It's from Zeldadungeon.net, but I don't have an exact source.
 * I know for sure that Metroid Other M is confirmed to be scheduled for Summer 2010, but I haven't heard anything about Mario or Zelda. --


 * I saw at Gamestop that they said it'll be realesed on June 1st, but this is kinda skeptical. It will most likely be released in the 3rd quarter at the earliest.--


 * Yeah, July or August.


 * Let's don't assume. Just wait until Nintendo gives official information on this thing.

Between June and August?


 * Yup, like I said, third quarter. (Between July-September)--
 * Just to clarify, that was Nintendo Australia. This doesn't mean it will be released later in the US or any other place. Oddly enough, major games like these are usually released alongside the US, PAL, and Japan regions really close to each other in dates. I hardly doubt it will be released in June/July, or September. However, August does seem legit so that E3 members can see Mario Galaxy 2 as a "what you see is what you get" type-of-thing.

Some Information
"Yoshi has an interesting diet. When he eats a Dash Pepper, he gets so hot and frenzied he can run up steep inclines and vertical walls. When he eats a Blimp Fruit, he inflates like a balloon and floats to new heights." "Skilled players will want to collect new Comet Metals, which will unlock harder levels with even more challenges." nintendo.com page


 * The game sure looks cooler than the original. Maybe we could add this as items?


 * My point exactly. And more pictures are available inthis link.

New Trailer
If you look closely, in the second trailer, when Yoshi comes out of the egg, you can see the planet that was thought to be the one in Good Egg Galaxy.


 * Is the new trailer on YouTube? I have no idea where all these pics and info on SMG2 have been coming from. @_@ --

It's coming from Nintendo's Media Summit. You can find the trailer, and screenshots, on nintendo's website and on youtube.--LuigiBros64


 * Okay, I found one on YouTube.--

I could have swore I saw the checkpoint flag from NSMBW and heard the SMW overworld theme from the gameplay trailer!

I didn't see any flag.


 * Look carefully at the second trailer (the gameplay one) during about 0:54, and there's that flag. Did you hear the music though?

Yes there is a check point flag.And the same thing whith the music.There's also a Super Mario Bros theme.


 * It's not the overworld theme though, it's the music from Yoshi's Island 3 and other levels. 06:11, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Toad?
Is there anything that proves that Toad is present in this game?
 * Promotional art.

Yeah,but is he the "Toad"?

Looks like it (he shows emotion? maybe), but since we have one Toad here only so far we should just leave it as Toad for now. We have no confirmation whether that that really is Toad and also no confirmation for whether that it is not going to Toad. User:Pichufan93
 * Oh come on. Like they're going to put a single Toad into a game.

Well it could be as he might be in the galaxies along with mario as one of the few ones there. Well so far we just see this one Toad instead of a couple and there must be a reason that he is on the artwork (despite not being a generic enemy). I think until we get proof that more Toads will appear we should just leave it to Toad. Just my thoughts ..User:Pichufan93

Yoshis
There's three yoshis in the art.The green one is yoshi,but the others aren't.


 * They are all the same Yoshi with different powers.
 * No proof.
 * All the proof I need.

They are all in the same place,so that means they aren't the same one!

Yoshi is a species in this game, not a character. That's why there is more than one.
 * Are you serious? They're all the same Yoshi, and it's not like you will keep him in every galaxy. It hasn't been confirmed, but somehow, you may lose him like in SMW or leave each galaxy at the end in some way like NSMBW.

In my opinion, I cosnider that there is only a Yoshi here, and he changes colors by eating a power-up fruits, similar to what happened in Super Mario Sunshine. After some time under the fruit's powers, the colored Yoshi returns to his green color.

Well now that I've seen the trailler,I guess it's the same Yoshi.

This is the same, Green Yoshi. It's shoe colors don't even change, that's the easiest tip. I suggest we remove the information from the orange and light blue Yoshi's pages as it's not actually them. It's similar to how Yoshi could change colors in MPT. ForeverDaisy09 19:52, 1 March 2010 (EST)

Bowser
In the screenshot with the Whomps, you can see a red Bowser head in the background. Does this confirm that Bowser is in the game? Lemmy Koopa Fan 21:34, 27 February 2010 (EST)

I don't think it's enough to confirm Bowser's presence in this game.It's like the snow statue
 * I wouldn't see the reason why Mario would just go out into the black Universe and having nothing to do. Bowser Jr. has been confirmed, so why would he just be there? To avenge his father? I don't think Bowser died in the original game. And since Bowser Jr. always wants to defeat Mario, then what would be the absolute point? I heard the story of SMG2 would be toned down (which I never saw any story in the original, except Rosalina's story), but that doesn't mean Mario can have nothing to do. Maybe Bowser kidnaps Peach as always, and you have to save her. Probably no bigger story than that.

Yeah,but nothing is been confirmed
 * Bowser was clearly seen recovering at the end of SMG1, for your information. It doesn't really make sense to speculate here - from any logical point of view, of course Bowser is in this game. But we're not here to make assumptions, as accurate as they may be, we're writing the article only about what's confirmed. - 10:53, 28 February 2010 (EST)


 * It's quite obvious he's going to be in the game, but we still can't be sure.


 * Well, the background is the same as the "Bowser Galaxy" backgrounds in the first game, and the red head seems to be one of his known "decorations". However, it's still possible that it's a cameo, although he has a very high chance of returning since Bowser Jr. does. --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 20:45, 1 March 2010 (EST)

E3
How is this game going to appear at E3 if it will be released before then?


 * Well, I thought of that, too. I'm not sure about this, but maybe they also show games that have been recently released.

Paratroopa
I need some proof that Paratroopa is in the game.


 * Well, I don't know. There are several enemies that I never saw in the trailer or images.


 * There's also the first trailer and second trailer, but I didn't see a Paratroopa either. I suggest we leave it as is until further notice.--

It's possible that, that Red Koopa from the first trailer was mistaken for a Paratroopa.


 * Koopas in Galaxy walk on four legs, and Paratroopas can also be green. Besides, it's hardly noticed, so no one could have mistaken it. Besides, there are like three or four enemies in the list that I didn't see in the trailer.

I know.

Comet Metal
What is the Comet Metal in the image? (I know, it's a stupid question)


 * The big white and gold coin.


 * What the heck. Might as well call it a Comet Coin.


 * I think it's just a typo on Comet Medal.--


 * You're right, it looks more like a medal. But do we have proof that it's a typo? --King Bean (talk ~ contribs) 18:40, 7 March 2010 (EST)


 * Nope.--


 * It was probably a mistake.

SMG2 is released on May 23, 2010
Hello, everyone. You guys are all wrong. SMG2 is released on May 23, 2010 (look at my user page and the main page.

I think you're wrong. May 23rd is still the date. Check Nintendo's official site.--LuigiBros64

So you're telling us that your userpage is an official site? The main page says 23, by the way.

Just by the way, KS3's original comment said "May 29", hence the replies. 05:52, 11 March 2010 (EST)
 * If you read my reason why I changed it to 23, it is because it was a typo error. If you went to my user page, you would have seen that it is May 23. Check my history if you want to. It has all the proof there is.
 * The thing is, if you just change your comments when people have already replied to them, you make them look like idiots (KS3: "It's coming out on May 23" - others: "Huh, what are you sayin', it's coming out on May 23"), when in fact the mistake was on your side. So don't do that. 19:20, 11 March 2010 (EST)

The time is ripe for a possible Shroob comeback...
I think it's possible that the villian(s)may NOT be Bowser at all;but rather the Shroobs,and before you can say anything about Bowser Junior being in there, consider that,like the L33T Hammer Brothers were,he might be under mind control!!!!Megabowser 15:32, 8 March 2010 (EST)
 * I don't see how that's possible.


 * I don't see Shroobs using airships and Koopa Clown Car-like robot.

This is forum chatter. Discuss it at the forums. --


 * I hate forums.

You might say that Fawful will be the villain, or Solid Snake, Kirby, Darth Vater, Sonic the Hedgehog, Jay Leno, or this weird guy in one of my classes. I think that Bowser Jr is the actual boss, as he really wants to fight Mario.
 * Are you sure Darth Vader wasn't a Mario boss? And I agree with your logic.

Jay Leno? Oh my. Out of all the games in the MAIN Mario series (the ones designed by Shigeru Miyamoto), Bowser has always been the main boss - except for in SMB2. Therefore, there is an almost certain chance he will be the returning main villain (although I think Fawful would be a better villain).