Talk:Tweester

Are you sure Tweesters actually appear in Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario 64? I thought those were just, well, regular, non-living tornadoes. Are they actually called Tweesters in those two games? -- Sir Grodus

SMB3? No. SM64? yes.

Also PM, don't forget that. There were no Tweesters in SMB3 or NSMB for that matter. 22:14, 2 March 2007 (EST)

I'm not sure, but there is the Tweester Orb in a few games.----

What about Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix, is it a Tweester or just a generic tornado? -- Sir Grodus A Tweester. Yes with eyes.  P J    

Okay, but I'm still a bit Weary of the "Tweesters are in Super Mario 64"; are they named Tweesters, do they have the face or anything, I've played the game and never noticed anything differentiating them from a regular, old tornado. -- Sir Grodus

Sorry, I checked. SM64? no. SM64DS? yes. Sorry!

They were in both versions in that... desert stage. 13:50, 3 March 2007 (EST)

Uh, sorry to change the subject, but since when is Tweester sometimes considered a conjectural name? Okay, back to business. I don't think that every last tornado ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE CALLED Tweester just because it's in the Marioverse. In this case, the ones in SMB3, SM64, and MK: DD (although that wasn't mentioned in the article, was it?). -- Dodoman


 * The reason Tweester is listed as part conjecture is because the SMB3 and SM64 Tweesters weren't actually Tweesters and had no names, yet we listed them as Tweesters nonetheless.


 * Oh. But... most of us agree that those are NOT Tweesters. This is going nowhere...

They don't look like Tweesters, they just look like inanimate tornadoes, without eyes or mouthes. And are they called Tweesters anywhere in the manuals SMB3 or SM64? -- Sir Grodus

I don't think so. There should be a Tornado article. 01:28, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Maybe they're the same things that appear in Wario's Palace that DP was trying to make. What were they... Sand Storms? 22:42, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

this article is a joke. only sentient tornadoes with faces are tweesters. Lu-igi board

As far as I know, there is a thing in SM64DS, which looks like a tornado, and doesnt have a face,therefore meaning that it wasnt an actual Tweester, but it was something like it.In Galaxy though, there are tornado things with eyes in the Dusty Dune Galaxy.Plus, are we sure they are called Tweesters?It makes me think of birds, coz the noise a bird makes it sometimes written as tweet.--Smileymiley5001 06:42, 23 February 2011 (EST)

One box too many
Does anyone know why the Mario Kart items box is in this page? I can't find it in there and I see no other references to the series on the page. --Grammarcheck (talk) 12:09, 6 March 2015 (EST)
 * I thought it may be one of the GP games, but it doesn't seem any of the three have a tweester-like item. until someone clarifies, I've removed it. --Glowsquid (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Super Mario Sunshine
they were their right???? TYC
 * Look under "other appearances." This article is rather arbitrary as to what constitutes a Tweester, and that was a vague attempt at fixing that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:09, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

BACK IN ODYSSEY?
i'm SERIOUS they were in snow kingdom.


 * Can you provide a source?
 * 19:18, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

not gud at providng sources, but just surch up snow kingdom all moons #DOIT
 * Did you see it in a video? If so, give me the link to it. Just skip to where you saw Tweesters, right-click, then click "Copy video URL at current time". Copy-and-paste it in the talk page between two brackets  (press Ctrl+V to right-click and click "Paste").
 * 19:37, 1 November 2017 (EDT)
 * P.S. Please indent your talk page comments.


 * Are you referring to those gusts of wind that come out of the ground when you unplug their holes outdoors? Those aren't Tweesters, and neither are tornadoes without faces for that matter. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:39, 1 November 2017 (EDT)


 * Well, never mind then.
 * 19:42, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Reorganization
This article seems a bit inflated and could use trimming. The only confirmed Tweester appearances that I'm aware of are in Paper Mario, the Mario Party series, and Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix; the rest of the article describes almost any given tornado or twister, such as the ones with eyes Super Mario Galaxy, which are technically "SunakazeKun" (SandwindKid). LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:32, 1 November 2017 (EDT)
 * Given that most Paper Mario enemies were based off of NES-SNES-era enemies, I'd say the SMB3 ones more than likely are. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:18, 1 November 2017 (EDT)
 * That's speculation, and Paper Mario didn't take any particular inspiration from SMB3; I'd say that It borrowed from all of the previous Mario games. 21:25, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

The article is now more accurate than it was previously, but is there any particular reason why Super Mario Galaxy and Virtual Boy Wario Land were skipped from splitting? LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * One user tried to split the VBWL one into the conjecturally-named "Torny" at one point, but Shokora (who of course was the go-to person here about the game before mysteriously disappearing) said it was unnecessary. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:34, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * One user tried to split the VBWL one into the conjecturally-named "Torny" at one point, but Shokora (who of course was the go-to person here about the game before mysteriously disappearing) said it was unnecessary. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:34, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

I can't think of many other pages that keep vaguely similar but clearly different enemies merged (maybe Super Princess Peach's Big Thwomp is a similar situation). I know it's under "Similar foes from other Mario-related titles" in this article, but it's still called Tweester in the VBWL template and related pages, which looks completely off since it predates the actual Tweester. It feels like a holdover when nearly every tornado was considered Tweester. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:50, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * "Big" enemies are in a different boat entirely, to be honest, though I'll admit the background-based inhaler guy is pretty different from other large Thwomps. It should probably be split, and to be honest most conjecturally-named enemies from the game should probably be given more intuitive names, as some are nearly as bad as the Police article's former title. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:55, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * If you have any suggestions for better conjectural titles (and that "Big Thwomp"), you can bring them up on the talk pages (I'd personally call the "Torny" a "Tornado-Creature" to go with the game's naming style and because the section already generically calls it a Tornado creature). As for Super Mario Galaxy's Sunakaze Kun, I think it's best to wait until Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia for a confirmed name. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:10, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * If we're going with the game's alleged name structure, I'd say "Eye-Tornado" or something like that. I still think there isn't enough examples to justify the rampant conjectural hyphenation, myself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:15, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Split Super Mario Galaxy Tweester and Virtual Boy Wario Land Tornado
While the Tweester article has been cleaned up fairly recently, these two subjects should also be split. The Super Mario Galaxy Tweester has a completely different Japanese name (Sunakaze Kun), and doesn't resemble the traditional Tweester that appears in Paper Mario, the Mario Party series, and Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix. It is also sometimes harmful, whereas the Paper Mario Tweester was always harmless. The unnamed Virtual Boy Wario Land creature predates Tweester by approximately five years, and while the current Tweester article lists them as "Similar foes from other Mario-related titles", they are still labeled as "Tweester" in several Virtual Boy Wario Land pages, so they are merged for all intents and purposes. All three of these tornados have different functions and don't belong in the same article.

Proposer: Deadline: November 17, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal, and my thought is to give the Virtual Boy Wario Land subject the conjectural name "Torny" since that seems to have been the first suggestion.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) The PM-debuting ones were a glorified warping mechanism anyways. Per proposal.
 * 4) Clearly different in more ways than one. Per proposal.
 * 5) Per all