User talk:Son of Suns

Are you... back?
If yes, H00RAY!!! You can regain sysop status if you ask to.

You're back? Yay!


 * Welcome Back.

I am trying to get back into it. We'll see what happens. I will take on any responsibilities users want to give to me, including my former sysop statues. -- Son of Suns

YA!!!! YOUR BACK!!!! YA!!!!

YOUR BACK! :)

Yahoo!!!!----

Your back! :D

So how have you been doing? Savior of the mariowiki is back!


 * Fine fine.....I guess. Happy to be back. -- Son of Suns

You probably don't even know who I am, but, I've been told I have to meet you. I've seen a lot of your work from back in the early days, and it was really good. Just want to say "Hi".


 * Thank you. I've seen some of your work....it's pretty good as well! =)  -- Son of Suns

Cool, your back! I thought you weren't coming back till the main page was renewed. I guess I don't need to continue with the project, since you were the main reason I was doing it. 21:12, 23 August 2007 (EDT) You should ask Steve for your powers back.

WHOO! YOU'RE BACK! Now a whole new generation of wikiers can see you in action. ;)

Nice to see you again! Booster


 * YEAH! You probably don't know me,but IT ROCKS THAT YOU'RE BACK!!!!!!


 * Don't worry. I remember you. -- Son of Suns

Cool! You're back. I don't think you know who I am, but it doesn't matter. I didn't realise how cool you were until after you left

Hmmm... Looks like I'm not the only one, but I'm someone you have never seen you before, here to welcome you back... Welcome back! Nice to see ya!(Even though I have never seen you before =P)


 * Yay! You do remember me! Don't worry,I'm going to actually try and edit onwadays. Glad to have you back! Just leave me some stuff to do? ;) ( Toadbert101 |[[Image:TBPaper.PNG|35px]]| Give a yell |Sez:) 01:57, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

You're back! Hip Hip Hooray!

Hey, Son of Suns. Weclome back to the Wiki. Glad to have you back.

Your BACK!!!!WAHOO!!!.

You returned? Whoa! Awesome! Welcome back!

A little late, but welcome back. Sorry, but I   am   Confused  01:05, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

Probably never seen me or heard of me but welcome back! Super   Yoshi10 | Lookey This

SoS
Where is the funny SOS?Is that you and how come you're so quiet this time?


 * ....Hmmmm.....I don't know how to respond. Quiet, eh?  I just got back.  Give me break. =) -- Son of Suns

How have things been going while you were gone?


 * Pretty good. The break was definately helpful.  I had a lot of things I needed to work out, and the wiki just added too much stress.  But things are good now, and I was need of a hobby, so I returned.  -- Son of Suns

About Instruction Books: You are not alone. I probably have more of them them I have games! not really


 * Nice. Hold on to those.  Better yet, take notes on them and upload any information that does not appear in the wiki. -- Son of Suns

Haiku
Your user page reminded me that everyone here seems to quote a different version of the Super Mario RPG Haiku. I know there's not a one-and-only version of it, but I wonder what Bowser actually said in the game. Do you know? - 13:02, 27 August 2007 (EDT)


 * Hmmmm.....I would like to think I have the correct version. I am gonna say mine is what Bowser actually said.  =)  -- Son of Suns

RE: SMRPG Pics
Ah; glad you asked. But I think I got one more pic to upload. But anyway, I was bored then and then started searching various stuff (mainly Mario) when I stumbled upon some kind of Debugging SMRPG website; I think it was good, but not good enough to put info into the wiki. Them I decided to explore around the website; and WHoa! I found some SMRPG images; rare! If you want the link, go Here! I'm hopeful that you're happy about asking this question. I replaced your image with mine, the KerokeroCola image!!! :D


 * Thank you! You know, I love that type of artwork!! It feels original!! Also, you heard I can actually draw left hand? I love drawing!! And also I'm drawing an upcoming comic based on my adventures with MarioWiki users in Hand Drawn in pencil, black and white!! The very first MarioWiki comic series to feature Hand Drawn pages!! :) *goes replacing old SMRPG not so HD images into new ones!*

Click Here

Question
Hi Son of Suns!

I was wondering if you could add ONE character to Brawl, who would it be?


 * Mahatma Gandhi from Mario's Time Machine. -- Son of Suns



Re: DKC Articles
Thanks. I'm going to be doing some more when I get the time, but I'll probably skimp on most of the Donkey Kong Land stuff due to my lack of knowledge on them, as well as the GBA ports. -- Booster

Sitenotice
Thanks for fixing the sitenotice.


 * No problem. Always happy to help! =) -- Son of Suns

this is whati wanted you to look at.


 * Hmm....the image isn't showing. -- Son of Suns

Really? it work for me, hm..


 * Oh, I thought both sides had to have rules. Whoops. Anyways, I think that sometime in the future that should be made mandetory. 19:05, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Re: Hey yo
LOL, ya I sleep...sometimes :P Anyway I usual sleep at midnight and get back on at Nine (Central Time). Thanks for dropping a line :)
 * I'd be honored to have you on the Committee.

Deletion of "Mona's Animals"
Hello, are you sure with the deletion of "Mona's Animals" and redirecting? Maybe not every animal needs an own article, but they are recurring characters in the WarioWare series (in all five games) and deserve at least one article. They may be rather minor characters, but one-shot enemies like Fuzzbush or Sharpea aren't more important, too. Or did you delete it because it was fairly a stub? --Grandy02 13:31, 9 September 2007 (EDT)


 * I deleted the article for two main reasons. First, the article was poorly written, and a stub.  Second, the animals in question (as far as I know) do not have official names.  This would just be another conjecturally named article.  Fuzzbush and Sharpea are species - we are not creating an article on every individual Sharpea. ("The conecturally Mr. Sharp was a Sharpea located exactly here...The conjecurally named Sharpinator was a Sharpea located exactly here...etc.")  If they have official names, as long as the article is detailed, each animal could have its own article.  However, since I don't believe they are officially named, their info would better serve the Mona article, as they all relate to her anyways.  Someone could create a well-written "Mona's Animals" section in the Mona article itself, detailing her various animals and their roles in the games.  -- Son of Suns
 * I agree with the first point. But their official names are just "Mona's Elephant", "Mona's Pig" and "Mona's Monkey" as seen in the character credits in the games. There is even artwork of them. --Grandy02 14:09, 9 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Okay. We should make individual articles for each of the three animals then.  Thanks for clearing that up.  But again, they need to be detailed (not stubs) to be recereated.  -- Son of Suns

FA Nomination
Some time ago I started an FA nomination and my own vote was removed from the supporting because I didn't give a reason. If the rules for that have changed, someone should have told me. - 12:14, 10 September 2007 (EDT)
 * It was indeed some time ago, where there was the PAIR system and you weren't here. Still, the rules for the actual nomination haven't changed since then. - 13:16, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

Reply: Category
I meant for it to be a regular edit but accidentally clicked minor, it won't happen again.

Hey!
Hey Son of Suns! Im LilBooster. You seem to be a famous user. Anyway, Hope to see you around. I like that picture of yours. BTW, wanna join my comic? If so, sign on my talk page. I'll see you around.

Never mind... I'll add you anyway since your close to being the best user. =)

HE IS TEH BEST USER!

...

Sincerely, Son of Suns



Well... I already have a nice part for you in my comic. And I saw some of your sprites on the King Sheet Version 5.(King Sheet is a Sprite Sheet of nearly every user or place)I have a Copy of King Sheet so I have your sprites. And it's nice to meet you too =)

So.... How old are you? Im 16.


 * I'll be 21 later this year. -- Son of Suns

So your like the oldest user here! I think..... anyway, thats cool :)


 * Nope, there are older users. -- Son of Suns

Oh..... Kay

Sig
Yello SoS would u like it if I made a sig for u


 * No thank you, but I really appreciate the offer! =) -- Son of Suns

Your Proposal
I agree on everything you have said except two things you may want to take into consideration
 * 1) We should Import them from the Rare Wiki at Wikia since they may have been lengthened a little in there time there.
 * 2) We should bump crossovers down to a class lower than Tertiary, instead of Secondary, as Secondary is for series that originated from the Mario series, not crossovers from another series

01:57, 15 September 2007 (EDT)

The Daisy FA INFO
Okay Plumber is only telling me that basically, "it's in these sections". It's been a long time and I haven't gotten anywhere with plumber's oppose. I can't find any POV in the sections he mentioned that any other page wouldn't have; meaning it's not POV. I think his oppose should be removed by now. Fixitup

That's the ting. I already asked him to do that. Like days ago. I guess I'll wait though. Fixitup

How long do you plan on waiting? Fixitup

Works for me, thanks. Fixitup

Iiit's Saturday! You know what that means don't you? Fixitup

Hello
hey !

join the Userpedia! The Userdepdia is a user - based wikii which focuses on users, user comics and user fan - fictions! we need active users.

RE: Yoshi
OK.

So.... are you gonna join Userpedia?


 * I probably won't. I am much more interested in working on articles - that's where I want my time and effort to go to.  Thanks for asking me to join though.  =) -- Son of Suns

Reply: DK Jungle Climber
It mostly stems from Xananab continually calling the vortexs K. Rool's Spirowarps make as being gateways to "another world" and him saying stuff like "K. Rool escaped to another world." -- Sir Grodus

hELLO
Thiis doesnt belong on the proposals section, but are you allowed to remove three users opinions? - Ultimatetoad


 * You are not allowed to completely change my proposal. Please wait until it expires to promote yours. -- Son of Suns

hmmkay. - Ultimatetoad

However, I will ask you to respond to my aand Glowsquids question, please. - Ultimatetoad

Ok. BTW, I used to be ALOT more active on Userpedia than on here. Now I'm more active on this. I hardly see anybody active on Userpedia exept PLDS and Toadbert.

By the By, when did Donkey Kong go aventuring with Banjo and Conker? - Ultimatetoad
 * I think it was a brief mention in Diddy kong Racing instruction manual, not sure.

Glowsquid

Re:Hey
No hard feeling, this debate took plae in a cilivised and respectful manner. Sure, all those edits conflicts were annoying, but whatever. The problem is that we have a different point of view on the canocity of the remake and the original games, I personnaly beliee that remake have an higher canon priority, since (appart from making money.) they were created with the goal of fixing up complain about the original (Both gameplay and storyline wise) and add feature that were planned but didn't make the cut because of hardware limitation or time constraint. However, you belive both the original and the remake are equally canon. None of us is more right than the other and I respect your opinion. Glowsquid

RE: I Am So Sorry!
Thanks for the appology, but don't sweat it. I get called a guy all the time and it doesn't bother me, I just like correcting the mistake is all. Anyway, truth be told, Walkazo is a guy's name in a way. A few years back my brother (Pantaro Paratroopa) gave one of our pet chameleons the name "Walkazo" (to this day I still don't know how he came up with it, however I do know it's not Spanish, though when I searched the name on the Internet, Google came up with some sorta Spanish Shoe Company). When Walkazo died, I was quite sad (he was my favorite pet ever), and I started using his name on the Internet as a sorta testiment to his memory.

Anyway, thanks again for the kind message, and I'll talk to you later! - Walkazo

Doopliss
I heard you talking about that scene before, but I missed it when playing the game. I've got a savegame near that scene though, I can try playing it in a few days. I'm also having thoughts about a Personality section. - 13:41, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

So... hows life? Hows your collage? Where do you come from? Can I think of another question? Lol I just did :P


 * Life is pretty good right now. I am really busy with college and work so I cannot edit the wiki that much, which is somewhat disappointing.  College is going really well.  The higher you go, the more intense class becomes, which makes you more excited to go to class.  Let's see.....I was born and raised in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and I am pretty sure you can think of many more questions. ;) -- Son of Suns

Thats nice! :) Looks like your life is going on Pretty well. For me... Life is ok too. I wish My collage wouldn't give me that much Home Work. And By reading "The higher you go, the more intense class becomes." makes me think your great at Literacy. Also, I'll be leaving the wiki for 2 weeks soon. I have Exams coming up. Anyway I'll see you round. =)

Goomba Pics
May I ask why did you remove the two goomba pics that I uploaded?Im not really mad but just asking.


 * I removed them because they were unneccessary reproductions of similar images we already had in the article. No hard feelings. =) -- Son of Suns

FA Support Votes
Sorry for late response, but I removed them because they didn't think abouut the qaulity of the article but instead just done because they were big fans of him, and nominated articles are not for spotlight but how good the article is


 * Yeah, shouldn't we make them give a reason, I've noticed some votes basically voting for the article because its their favorite character.

I agree with the two guys above, seeing all those "LUIGI IS SO AWESOME!" or "DAISY SUCK!" votes is really agravating. And don't lecture me about the fact that support won't make the article featured and blablablabla... Glowsquid


 * The rules do not state a support has to be justified. All a support means is that the supporter will help get the article to FA standards if there are oppositions.  If they don't work on the article, simply because they voted for a favorite character, the article won't get featured.  Eventually the nomination will be deleted, as stated in the rules.  Ultimately, how can you justify a support vote?  A support vote means I think this article is the best of the best - what is good is relative.  Younger users are more likely to think something like Bowser is good.  That's why need other users to diligently oppose and provide ways to improve articles, and supporters can decide if they will actually work to get an article featured.  It's not really a big deal. -- Son of Suns


 * Alright I understand that.

Good

Re: SMBSS
I'll do what I can for now, since I can't stay up all night. I'll probably need some help down the road, like with deleting pages that have been split. It took me a while to lay out the ground work, but now that I've split the first episode, it's pretty basic from here on out. -- Booster

Hey
Just wanted to say,Glad you're back. I can't belive our wiki god (well,maybe second to Steve, :P) is back! YAYZ!

PI
Your personal image (Image:MarioCommunist2.png) doesn't have a license. Could you please add one? - 08:02, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
 * I believe it's cc-by-nac since all Uncyclopedian content is released under that. 08:05, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Done =) 16:34, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
 * When it requires attribution, as the Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Share-Alike License obviously does, the original author of the work has to be mentioned. - 16:38, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

Ahem...
With all the arguing going on the proposal page, I know we aren't the best friend of this wiki, but I would need your help on a certain matter, is Cheese notable enough to be a FA? There's a big arguign going on there. I and many user suspect this article was nominated only because of a FAd which then nominator (Plumber), is a part off.

PS: Thank you for create the MK sponsor page! Glowsquid

First: Thank you! Being told that you are a good user by you is like being told you are intelligent by Albert Einstein. I don't have any hard feeling against you, I just am slighty annoyed that you alway mange to crush my argument, which force me to think of others nonsensical crap :).

2: When will you ever go on the chat & forum again? Your presence is errr... lacking there. Glowsquid

... I agree. I hate how thing as retarded as "WAYOSH HATE US ALL" and "The wiki should be more fun because some guy is leaving!" managed to get all the attention, as well as great editors get over-shadowed by users involved in the community, it's really aggravating. Glowsquid

Sorry
..Never heard of such a thing, knows alot of CSS and stuff maybe he'd know.

Hi Son of Suns

i cant log on the mariowiki forum.

it has been like that for two day..

"Bad writting"" section
I am sorry if I offended you or anu other user, this was not intentional. I was simply showcasing what I consider to be funny when I readed article, users should not feel ashamed by such minor mistake, instead, they should simply laugh at it. Should actor be offended if the movie/series/w/e they are staring in has a "Bloopers" segment? Glowsquid

OK... I changed the name and tried to be more constructive in my comments, is that OK? Glowsquid
 * Your welcome.

Glowsquid

Re: Proposals
"Oh my gosh Cobold! You do this all the time! What is wrong with you? Why can't you just make a comment on the Mario Wiki community? You are such a jerk and I hate you." You have teh style, sire. Cobold, always up for lame jokes  http://www.mariowiki.com/irc/img/mario/goomba.gif 16:41, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Hi! I see you've signed in. BTW does my sig look nice?

you're russian?
why do you have the symbol of the soviet union on your hat? Bigger sid 07:24, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
 * It's a joke, I guess. His given real name isn't exactly Russian. - 08:27, 6 October 2007 (EDT)


 * It's because I'm a communist obviously. =) -- Son of Suns

Cheese Nomination
Do you think a majority of the Cheese FA nomination Opposes should be removed? Like king Mario's and others?
 * Hi Son of Suns! My name is BooKid and is my older brother.

Since The fanvote proposal was a tie, I can't figure if we should remove them or not

Got it, but still I hate it when I see "This isn't a wiki without ____ featured" and stuff, but I got it

Speaking of proposals, I think it need an archiving now. Glowsquid

RE: Anger
If you are referring to Cook Kirby, you are right, that one was harsh. But, the one when I said "CHECK THE DAMN WEBSITE" is because that User keeps on removing "Pokémon" from "Pokémon: Pokémon Gym/Evolution". It is very clear on the website that it is spelled as "Pokémon: Pokémon Gym/Evolution", but he believes it is "Pokémon Gym/Evolution". Me and Cobold have constantly told him not to do this, but he keeps on doing it. I had ENOUGH, this time was like the fifth time he did that. So, I couldn't hold my anger back. But, sorry, I shouldn't have yelled like that. I'll try and hold back my anger, maybe I should leave the Chat for a while. Thanks. :)
 * Also, how can you say "Damn" is a swear, and say "F***" is NOT a swear? Referring to the Bob Hoskins article, just so you know.
 * He never said that. He only pointed out we shouldn't censor possibly offensive contents in article, we are an encyclopedia after all. However, the "no swearing" rule still aply to Userspace.

Glowsquid


 * Exactly. No swearing to others is connected to assuming good faith.  As long as you are using the word "fuck" academically, and not using it to insult others, its perfectly acceptable on the wiki. -- Son of Suns

Auctauly these fan votes say nothing of the qaulity of the articles, just saying they think feutured articles are for the popularity of the charactures, not the articles, like Cobold said

Cranky Great Grand something or other
Hi. Yep, I'm back again. Just to point this out, Wario's Mother has no official name either. - Ultimatetoad

Wow
You have 4 archives! You must of been here for a long time.


 * Well, I have been here over a year, although I did go on a significant hiatus (but I did observe the wiki from afar). -- Son of Suns

Comic
I feel stupid saying this, so I'm gonna make it short and sweet. Do you want to be in my Comic?


 * Don't feel stupid for asking this. You can use my user name and likeness in your comic if you'd like. =) -- Son of Suns
 * Thanks. Oh, but, what role would you like? Go here to sign up.
 * I see you've met my little brother.
 * Apparently. ;) -- Son of Suns

Sarcasm
We have already gone through with this. In my vision, acting rude to others is the only way to get through to them. They never learn otherwise. THAT is why I am sarcastic and rude. The yelling also gets a Users attention.
 * Fine. Also, you should just give me the warning. It doesn't matter how much I edit, if I break the rules, I break the rules, so a warning should've been issued long ago. Maybe that is why I never stopped, I never got a standard warning. Next time I do something like that, just give me the warning, don't pay attention to how much I edit, OK?
 * I really don't think praise is necessary at this moment. I have made a HUGE mistake by being rude to everyone. I will try and fix the scar I have left on the Wiki, but it will definitely take time.

YO!
Would you mind signing up for my new original comic strip? I'm trying to recruit everyone I know. PLEASE SIGN UP!

Sprites
Er, SoS, I forgot to ask. Where might I find your sprites for my Comic?


 * Well, now you can find them two sections down. Hahaha. -- Son of Suns

Artwork
DO you know the site where you got this image from?


 * I think that is from Wikipedia, before they started merging all Mario articles together. The artwork itself is from the Super Mario World instruction booklet (I believe). -- Son of Suns

My Comic
Hey was your appearance in my comic ok?

BTW Heres your sprites. (If you care)

http://blogster.com/host/images/96886283732.png

Uniju's Insult
''[19:06]  Yeah, SoS is an arrogant jackass. <_<'' This was what Uniju said about you in Chat, just so you know. He's been bad mouthing everyone, just check My page. He says the "F" word WAY too much, and he is flaming anyone he can find. Just giving you the heads up, in case you want to take some action.
 * There's no need to tell SoS about what is said about him in chat, DP. You can take action as necessary without ratting people out. 07:01, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Then I'd get in trouble, everyone thinks I hate Uniju (when I really don't), so if I were to ban him from MarioWiki, everyone would be complaining to me.
 * Uh, you didn't do anything to insult Uniju. He got made because I was adding all his flame quotes to my Userpage, and when I said that you will not take his flames towards me very well, he said you were an arrogant jackass.


 * Okee. I would still like to know why he thinks of me that way, and what I can do to repair any wrongs. -- Son of Suns


 * From what I heard, it's your view on the stub-deleting policy. I dunno if there's more, thought.

Glowsquid

That's weird, 'cause I didn't vote either way in the proposal. -- Son of Suns
 * Well, I remmember hearing him babbling about how you think all stubs are one-liners and how you think they should all be deleted and blablablabla... Yes, it's weird.

Glowsquid


 * Wow. I am the one who archived the proposal, thus stopping all stubs from being deleted from that point forward.  I really don't care how the wiki views stubs and what to do with them.  That's why I didn't vote.  -- Son of Suns

Link to comics
Hi, these comics I linked to were published in a magazine that was given away for free. I am absolutely not sure if it makes any difference, but I think the fact that they were never supposed to be sold makes it acceptable to link to them. / Time Q 13:54, 22 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Okee. I'm not exactly sure what to do, so you should do what you feel is right. -- Son of Suns

Sandy Planet discussion
could we redirect Desert Planet to Pokey Planet? many Mario Galaxy expected people would wish it.


 * Well, they look like different planets. Pokey Planet will eventually be deleted anyways (I think).  We shouldn't worry about it until the game is released. -- Son of Suns

Comic Appearances
Well I'm not sure if this is it but these are the comics i've SEEN you appear in....


 * When Sysops Attack
 * Super Mario Wiki Adventures
 * Legend of the Sun
 * Purple Yoshi Comics (I think)

My Bad Yo
I'll stop calling people names. Thanks for setting me straight :D Fixitup

Dude....You deserve a signature :P


 * I have one. It looks like this: Son of Suns.  Hahaha. =) -- Son of Suns

Lol =D. Ok umm....would you like a better one?


 * I love the one I have now. =) -- Son of Suns

Ok =)

Hola SoS


 * Sup? -- Son of Suns

Oops
My apologies. I didn't know that, sorry. Bulbapedia uses information from anything, not just recent articles, so, that's why I did that. The Kirby edit to it was recent, however. King Dedede's Multi-Jump task was only confirmed yesterday! Can we keep that?
 * OK, now you just confused me. We can only add information on New articles, but we can't add information on New Subject articles? If you put it THAT way, you may as well just remove the template altogether.
 * I... guess. It still seems like a big waste to me.

Why did you revert my edits? do you know where did you hear that? I need a proof.

The savior of MWiki is on! Howzit going?


 * Savior of humanity? Yes.  Savior of the wiki?  That's pushing it.  Anyways...........I am doing pretty well.  Overburdened for sure, but well.  How are you? -- Son of Suns

I'm fine my self.. I'm just finishing of my comic right now.

Orange Fish
as you deleted orange fish article, must the Category: Ballon Fight Series be deleted? The only article that is in it it's Flipper.


 * Well, there may be more in the future, so we'll just wait until Brawl comes out. -- Son of Suns

Wikipedia
Huh... Wikipedia took info from Super Mario Wiki, too. Or another user take info from there, and put it here. Example: Rudy the Clown in Wikipedia - Rudy the Clown. However, i think that this non-original info is better than nothing, took from Wikipedia, Answers or another website. After all, Wiki is based in editing and another user can rewrite this in the future...--Caith Sith 13:45, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Hi
you seem to do good edits, so i wanted to know if maybe, could you help with Princess Peach article? please Javier12345

Birthday!
My birthday is tommorow!

Nevermind. It was on November 15th

HELP
Can You Make Me Some Sprites?? Wario Bros. 21:42, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Alternate Canon
Recently I've been thinking about how we separate the The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!from the video game series and why. I read your Canonicity article, and as you know we're considering the show to be alternate canon right now. Just to clarify, what I'm talking about here applies only to the Super Show and not to the other shows by DiC, as I have not seen them yet.

I've seen the animated segments up to episode 20, and it's actually pretty consistent to the series in my opinion, especially if you think about other games we consider canon. So, I'm not sure why it would be considered alternate canon when its "creative licenses" are less than game such Strikers (changed characters' personalities, which then changed back) or Luigi's Mansion (blew open a huge plot hole--the death of Bowser, which we were able to fill with a lot of speculation) is considered canon. So, could you to tell me why you feel the cartoon series is in an alternate canon? What I want to do is combine the canon(s) in the biography sections of the character pages, but I don't want to go ahead without some approval.

My problem with all of the alternate canon stuff is that it doesn't seem to be backed up by solid evidence. I can see thinking of the Super Mario Bros. movie as alternate canon, as the storyline is drastically different, but the Super Show fills in the events immeadiately following Super Mario Bros. (if you listen to Mario's Plumber's Log at the start of each episode). You wrote, "Each comic, book, movie, and cartoon series is like their own little universe, all distinct from each other and the video game universe. -- Son of Suns" (Talk:Canonicity) but I can't see any more differences between the show and the video games than I see between multiple video games (say, Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). 23:53, 13 December 2007 (EST)