Talk:Panel de Pon

Needed?
I'm actually not so sure if this article is needed. Doki Doki Panic introduced a lot of characters and game mechanics that are a recurring part of the Mario series today, so I think it deserves an article, but that doesn't go for Panel de Pon. Not any character from Panel de Pon became a Mario character, and this type of puzzle game titled Puzzle League outside of Japan today is also not common for the Mario series. Merge with Tetris Attack? --Grandy02 15:39, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't think either of them deserve an article. I mean, while they were both the template for two Mario games, they don't have anything to do with the Mario franchise itself.
 * Doki Doki Panic was at least the debut for many Mario series characters and other elements like the vegetables. On the other hand, none of the fairies made it into Tetris Attack for SNES and Game Boy, neither was there another Panel de Pon/Puzzle League game starring Mario characters. If Tetris Attack did not exist, it wouldn't change much for the Mario series, while Super Mario Bros. 2 based on Doki Doki Panic had and has a notable impact on the franchise.--Grandy02 10:37, 5 June 2010 (EDT)

Delete
Well, I agree with the comments above, as there is an article for Doki Doki Panic, it does belong here since it had a notable impact on the Mario franchise, but this doesn't belong here since if Tetris Attack didn't exist, t wouldn't change much for the Mario series,

Proposer: Deadline: June 20th, 2011, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) I agree with UltraMan
 * 3) If UM3000 agrees, then I'll agree as well! Per UM3000!

Oppose

 * 1) but the point is it does exists and i see no reason why it should be deleted importance should not be an issue and it isnt fair to say that one game is more important than another especially if neither game is a mario game
 * 2) Per Goomba Shoe.
 * 3) - Per Goomba's Shoe15: Panel do Pon is just as important to Tetris Attack as Doki Doki Panic is to SMB2, and if we have one, we should have the other. The fact that Tetris Attack may not have changed the face of the Mario series like SMB2 shouldn't be a factor. The only real argument is that PdP doesn't have Mario characters, like YK:DDP did, but I still feel like it's better to have this page and not need it, than to not have it and leave some folks feeling like we have a gap in our database. It's not like we're talking about a huge amount of space here, and it actually saves us the trouble of having to go in-depth about PdP on the TA and Nintendo Puzzle Collection pages (the latter of which should also be taken into consideration when weighing the relationship between PdP and the Mario series).
 * 4) Per Iggykoopa and his alter-ego, Goomba's Shoe 15.

Comments
Panel de Pon may not be a Mario Universe title, but that is the origin of Tetris Attack, which contains Mario Universe characters. Of course, Tetris Attack is merely a Yoshi's Island spin-off title, while Super Mario Bros. 2 is mainstream. 08:02, 7 June 2011 (EDT)