Talk:Nintendo Badge Arcade

This does NOT belong here
This is like having a page for claw machines that happen to have Mario merchandise in them, or for stores that sell Mario plushies. Unless I am mistaken somewhere, there are no actual Mario characters (besides likenesses of them), no Mario locations, no Mario objects (aside from likenesses) or anything at all except for Mario-related badges, of which there are badges for tons of different series. Does not deserve coverage, nor does the bunny who leads it. Shadow2 (talk) 02:13, 30 December 2015 (EST)
 * I'm very iffy about this article as well. While I do agree that the Bunny doesn't need an article of his own, this one is debatable as it does include Mario content, even if it is in the form of simple badges. It's all whether or not it can really be considered a crossover. I personally don't find it as much of a crossover, as the only thing that's tying it all together are inanimate badges that are based on different characters. There's nothing much else to it.
 * It's more like a game that's full to the brim with Cameos, but certainly not crossovers. I would apply this same argument to StreetPass Mii Plaza. Despite Mario puzzles and costumes, they're still just a bunch of Cameos. Shadow2 (talk) 01:59, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Of all the wikilinks on this page, all but one of them aren't related directly to Mario (instead related to Nintendo articles and such - not saying those articles shouldn't exist). I think that says a little something about this page deserving to be here. Shadow2 (talk) 23:57, 30 January 2016 (EST)
 * I have the stance that the game deserves an article here, in the same vein as Nintendo Land, and no, I don't agree with the analogy that this game is comparable to retailers that sell Mario merchandise. Unlike those retailers, this game is an officially licensed, developed Nintendo game within its own intellectual property without any middle man of any sort. Besides, the most content the game offers IS the badges and the themes, so having an extensive Mario set in this game is a pretty big deal all right. We could lessen the coverage in this article, but I definitely think it deserves an article here, as well as keeping the complete sets and themed catchers (as they are official Mario-related content, and thus, we have to cover it). I don't agree that this game is a crossover in the slightest, since the most crossover thing you can do is place Mario badges in a Splatoon-themed home menu, but that's like saying Animal Crossing is a Nintendo crossover if we're going to make that argument; however, I'm not sure if "cameo" is the right term to call this game either, as I think the appearances of the characters is more major than a mere cameo. The bunny is more debatable to keep than this article, very much like Nikki from Swapnote. In fact, the Mario appearances in Swapnote is more of a cameo than in Nintendo Badge Arcade, where the entire point of the game is to collect badges in the first place rather than the optional theme in Swapnote. On the other hand, yeah, I'm not sure if StreetPass Mii Plaza deserves an article. I think even less than Nintendo Badge Arcade. 00:12, 31 January 2016 (EST)
 * Where's the article on Tekken Wii U? Shadow2 (talk) 07:05, 10 March 2016 (EST)
 * There is no article since it's a fit for here rather than getting its own article, just like any other video games that happen to get a Mario costume and Mario elements embedded in it, a reason Bayonetta 2 or Rayman Legends stay on that page rather than have its own article. Really I think you should reread through our policies, look at what articles we put in references and what gets their own, and what we already had said before you continue questioning how we cover content here. 14:59, 10 March 2016 (EST)
 * Don't try to just 'shut me up', thank you very much. I read this wiki's policy and left a message on the policy's talk page. I understand it and I think it's wrong. Please correct me if I'm understanding this wrong, but there are NO MARIO CHARACTERS OR ITEMS in this game. Just images. Just badges. If an article of this caliber exists, then articles for Tekken and Bayonetta 2 fit the bill just as well. It's ridiculous. I'm not saying I WANT a Tekken Wii U page, I'm just saying that the current policy asks for one and should probably be changed. Shadow2 (talk) 01:56, 11 March 2016 (EST)
 * Not to mention that Tekken Wii U has a Mario-themed MINI-GAME in it too, not just costumes. Look up "Mushroom Battle". Shadow2 (talk) 01:59, 11 March 2016 (EST)
 * It's still clearly only a Mario reference, still not enough content to warrant an article on its own. Besides, your argument lessening coverage on stuff like this has been thoroughly thrashed, so I'm not sure if you still understand our policy at all. Walkazo summed up why Nintendo Badge Arcade exists on this wiki, for good reasons that I linked, that I suggest you reread her points. 09:51, 11 March 2016 (EST)

Normally I'd be iffy about having this page, but there's one thing that makes me lean toward the "keep it" side and that's Ashley. Basically, the page doesn't mention it, but Ashley makes up a significant portion of Badge Arcade: she currently has four of her own holidays page with new artwork, she "crossover" with the Swapnote characters, and whiek she obviously doesn't physically appear, the bunny gives new information about her (saying she's friend with the Swapnote mascot, what religious rituals she practice, what she's out doing... etc).

it's a weird and unique situation because Badge Arcade doesn't have a "plot" and it's not really a "game" either", but basically Badge Arcade is a source of new material and information about Ashley's character to a degree that's more "canon" (idk how to say this) and substantial than a mode in TT2 with Mario items or having Peach/Daisy costumes and Bowser's floating arm in Bayonetta. i don't think the bunny deserves a page though. --Glowsquid (talk) 08:41, 11 March 2016 (EST)
 * As I linked, Walkazo pretty much explained why the Nintendo Badge Arcade is covered as it is now. 09:51, 11 March 2016 (EST)
 * People keep bringing up Ashley for some reason, but she's not mentioned on either the Nintendo Badge Arcade or Arcade bunny pages. If this is the big reason to keep one/both of those pages, then they should probably be included in there somewhere.
 * I mean you'll have to forgive me if I see a bit of a double standard here. I mean, we have this long article for this 'game' here. It talks about how the arcade works, how the mechanics and time-based events work, how to control the bloody crane like an in-game tutorial, and a bunch of reviews, all with Mario being mentioned once. I think that if something like that can be covered in such great detail, then why in the world is Tekken not covered when it has a fully-fleshed out mode that is based entirely off of the Mario series, and is not an off-handed reference. It was INCLUDED as a bonus for the Wii U version because of Nintendo. Shadow2 (talk) 03:02, 13 March 2016 (EDT)

Ashley?
There's still no Ashley on this page. What's her great importance to this game? Shadow2 (talk) 18:38, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
 * She happens to be part of sets, like any other character. We may need to list that one Nikki set that has Ashley in it. 18:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

i haven't added the information because i don't actually follow badge arcade and I'm pretty stumped about how to present the information exclusive to Ashley, but: basically Ashley is super-popular in Japan and in the past year, Nintendo has released ton of badges of her, most of which have original artwork by Warioware's character design. She has her own panels (as in, screens, not just a single badge) in the:

-Christmas -Japanese New Year -Halloween -Band Brothers -Splatoon -System menu icons replacement

as well as badges in the Nikki and Warioware sets. The pink bunny's descriptions of her stuff also gives additional information about Ashley's character (for ex, saying she practices traditional Shinto rituals, what her favourite gun in Splatoon is, impyling she's acquainted with the Swapnote mascot... etc). This japanese web page has all the pictures and descriptions.

I dunno if it truly justifies giving Badge Arcade its own page (i'm pretty ambivalent about its existence), but point is, it has A Lot of Ashley. --Glowsquid (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2016 (EDT)