Talk:Deep Cheep

Appearance in NSMBU
Do they really appear in NSMBU? I mean, there's artwork of them, but I don't remember seeing any. Aokage (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2013 (EST)

I have the same question, I have indications that appears or in Tropical Refresher or in Porcupuffer Falls or in Swim Your Life! but eh not been confirmed so it's possible it then appears in a next DLC or is in some challenge or a Coin Courses, so for now I will try to investigate if is found in the game, and later I'll give you an answer ok? . Marioyoshi (talk)
 * So, do they appear at all? --Hiccup (talk) 10:58, 23 January 2015 (EST)

Appearance in Super Mario Maker or not?
When you shake Cheep Cheeps into green ones in NSMBU style they highly resemble Deep Cheep except that they don't chase you why is that?

Yoshi's New Island section shouldn't be here
I honestly can't agree with Green Cheep Cheep in YNI being covered in Deep Cheep page just because of the internal filename when everything else from its behavior to the supplementary sources we have at hand contradict this. This is more like Deep Cheep's files being used as a basis for the green Cheep Cheeps in the finished product, which makes the filename an artifact and should have a trivia note at most. SmokedChili (talk) 05:11, February 9, 2020 (EST)

Stop considering the green Cheep Cheeps in certain Super Mario Maker styles to be Blurps and Deep Cheeps: take 2
So I attempted this on the Blurp talk page a while back, it failed mainly because they "still act like Blurp," which while true I do not find a valid reason. The fact of the matter is the green versions are consistently called "Cheep Cheeps" in every style, and River Fish in the Forest's description doubles down on this. Nothing in any of the Super Mario Maker series ever uses the names "Blurp" or "Deep Cheep," only the wiki does in spite of what the games explicitly say. Also, it's not like the games didn't change names between styles and themes for other entities, like Spike Trap becoming Jelectro and Sea Urchin. Furthermore, this can't be a "Search Pukupuku" if it doesn't search. As for the nature of the design, Lakitu in Super Mario Kart reuses Fishin' Lakitu graphics, but we no longer consider that to be an actual Fishin' Lakitu appearance; the same goes for Chomps in Donkey Kong Land using Chomps Jr's design.

Basically, I'm wanting to fix the enemy table and gallery labels on the SMM game pages and simply note on these pages that the design was used for that game, but no longer consider it an actual appearance (similar to how some articles list name appearances on Mario Golf scoreboards).

Proposer: Deadline: April 30, 2022, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - Per
 * 2) Per the previous proposal's support. Why don't we call Peach's Daisy color scheme in the older Super Smash Bros. games a full-fledged appearance of Daisy while we're at it?

Oppose

 * 1) Per the previous proposal's opposition. If something appears, it should count as an appearance.
 * 2) "and River Fish in the Forest's description doubles down on this." - The River Fish in the Forest article literally shows in the infobox that there's regular-styled cheeps and blurps. How do you know it's specifically talking about the blurp-like ones and not the regular ones? And your design point isn't very strong; "Fishing Lakitus" were confused with Lakitus for a long time because they're literally just Lakitus with Fishing Poles, a trait later adopted by many many many normal lakitus. Blurps have a very different color AND a very distinguishable characteristic (the eyeglasses), so they're not going to be sharing designs with normal Cheeps unless Nintendo actually wants to retcon and merge two species into one. I think it's fine to call the ones in SMM/SMM2 Deep Cheeps and Blurps.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per previous proposal's opposition, especially 7feetunder's comment about the "intended goal" of the proposal.

Comments
@Somethingone: "The River Fish in the Forest article literally shows in the infobox that there's regular-styled cheeps and blurps. How do you know it's specifically talking about the blurp-like ones and not the regular ones?" Er, no? Try looking down a bit. There is precisely one (1) Big Cheep Cheep. No regular Cheep Cheeps by our definition. Also note that Para-Beetle Transfer, for example, mentions Para-Beetles by name, like Jelectro / Sea Urchin and unlike Blurp / Deep Cheep. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:14, April 16, 2022 (EDT)
 * That's just a minor technicality. Keep in mind that official sources can sometimes make mistakes. 13:55, April 16, 2022 (EDT)
 * I just want to say that the Peach=Daisy in Smash comparison you're making is not a very good one, that is clearly just Peach dressed like Daisy. This however, it's the Blurp / Deep Cheep appearing that happen to be referred to as "Cheep Cheeps". 13:59, April 16, 2022 (EDT)