MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. Signing with the signature code (~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) There are two topics that cannot be decided on through a proposal: the first is sysop promotions and demotions, which are decided by Bureaucrats. Secondly, no proposals calling for the creation of Banjo, Conker or Sonic series articles are allowed (several proposals supporting them have failed in recent history).

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Mario Calendar
Wikipedia's Main Page has a "On this day" feature which shows all past events that happened on that day. I had the idea of something similar. A Mario calendar to go on the Main Page which shows past release dates of games released on that month. For example, it's November, so it shows most/all Mario games released on November (for example, Super Mario Galaxy was released November 2007, so it will be listed in the Calendar). Other important Mario events will be listed such as Shigeru Miyamoto's birthday. I think it'd be a cool thing to have on the Main Page. What do you think?

This is the template that would go somewhere on the Main Page. Notice how it says "See more dates". Because we don't want to make the Main Page too big, people can click on "See more dates" to see the full calendar if they are interested in seeing it.

This is the full calendar.

Proposer: Deadline: November 10th, 2008 17:00

Add it to Main Page

 * 1) It's a cool idea and if a new Mario game was coming later that month, people know the exact date of when it's coming out right away. Plus, knowing the release dates of past Mario games released many years ago is cool right? (And you won't forget Shigeru Miyamoto's birthday either!)
 * 2) - I always thought this place needed a calendar, I was just too lazy to actually make one. Kudos.
 * 3) - Per all.
 * 4) Per all. And omg I was born on the same day as Shigeru :O
 * 5) Per Paper Jorge.
 * 6) Great idea, Paper Jorge!
 * 7) - Awesome!  The only issue will be finding a good release date for Donkey Kong, right?
 * 8) - Per all.
 * 9) -Great idea and sorta a fun fact for each month.
 * 10) hell yea per all.
 * 11) - Per all. I've always liked that calendar.
 * 12) This must be the greatest thing ever! Per all!
 * 13) Per all.
 * 14) I agree with everyone.I have no idea when Nintendo Peoples' Birthdays are so I want to know! I think it'll also be fun.
 * 15) - This proposal is "Hi-technicaaaaaaaaaal!" (Francis). Awesome idea, Paper Jorge!
 * 16) - Per all, a great addition.
 * 17) - Wee! Good idea! But try to make some sort system that change this things montly.
 * 18) - Sounds awesome. Would there be pictures?
 * 19) - I honestly like this idea, finding out what happened on this day will be alot of fun.
 * 20)  Yes. Yes. God yes. Per all. Yes....
 * 21) - I think it's a great idea!
 * 22) - Good idea but you should add a picture for the most recent.
 * 23) - sounds like a good idea
 * 24) - That's a good idea.
 * 25) - Yeah. Cool idea. Let's do that.
 * 26) - Per all, I love this idea.
 * 27) - Per all. Although there might be some squabble over what's notable enough for the calander.
 * 28) - It's a great idea :D
 * 29) well, of course! theres nothing bad that will come out of it, and it will be a fun addition.
 * 30) - Paper Jorge, you're only like 12 and you came up with that idea... brilliant! Seems like a clever addition.
 * 31) User: Cberiault Exellent! You can then see what's happend in the past in the same month or future reales dates!

Comments
Just as a note Stumpers, if we can't find the release date for a certain game, in this case, Donkey Kong, then I guess, we don't have to randomly add it in the calendar. It can be left out, I guess. Even if it is the first Mario game in history.
 * I just noticed that we have exact Japanese and European dates, so I'm sure we could work around it! Push comes to shove we could put it at the top without a date.

It's a great idea, but it bugs me that the calendar only uses US dates at the moment. If other regions get included as well, I'll support. And if you think that would be too much, I'd suggest to use the original release dates regardless of region (very often not the US).--Grandy02 16:37, 4 November 2008 (EST)
 * Perhaps there could be an option such as 'Click here for ___'s Mario events of the month', or something along those lines?


 * Of course we'll have more than American releases. Notice how at the bottom of the calendar there's "All release dates are the American releases unless tsated otherwise". We can have Super Mario 64 releasedon July 23 (Japan) and stuff. No worries. Or like Stumpers said, we can have a Japan, European, Australian ect. calendars. :P
 * I'm glad you mentioned Australia there, PJ. Oh, I have a question: Who will be in charge of updating the calendar - I would guess it's restricted to Sysops only to prevent trolls and spammers taking advantage of the Main Page? Am I correct?


 * Yes, sysops (mostly me, lol), or we could protect the page so users who've been on the wiki for more than ## days can edit.
 * Days? Not months?


 * Yeah, probably yes. Also, as a respone to Jaffrey, yes there will be pictures included as you can see User:Paper Jorge/Test3 < here.
 * I may have missed this, but where do you plan on placing this on the Main Page?
 * I think the picture looks like it was just tacked-on for no real reason; it should be incorporated into/formatted for the calendar a bit more to improve the overall aesthetic appeal. -


 * Indeed, we gotta work on the image, if not, just leave the image out complete. Stooby, the Main Page has lots of room, Steve will figure it out.
 * Good point about the image, Walkazo. And, thanks for the answer, Jorge.

Think we should have a different pic each month like for the first month mario next luigi after that peach get it it would be a different characterr or enemy each month.


 * Luigi, we will have a different picture each month but like Walkazo said, if we don't find a way to actually make it look good we won't have a picture at all. Plus, we will have pictures of the most important thing that month. For example, I say the most important thing happening this month is Miyamoto's birthday so that's why there's a picture of him.

I'm remaining neutral (though it doesn't matter at this point), but I have one suggestion and one question: 1) Limit the main-page highlight calendar to 2-4 important dates, with upcoming releases bolded and/or put right on top; 2) Once we get through a whole year, will we simply cycle through everything again and again?

Removals
''None at the moment.

Captain Rainbow
As you know, we have an article on the game Captain Rainbow. I think we should merge it with Video Game Refrances. I think we should do this, because of the following:
 * 1) Birdo is playable charcter, but she's orginaly from Doki Doki Panic. Since the game is from Japan that means that is the game she intended on being from.
 * 2) The Pirranna Plant is just making a cameo apperance.
 * 3) Mario is not playable, he just makes a cameo as a picture a him appears in the game.

With those reasons above I think we should merge Captin Rainbow with Video Game Reffrances

Proposer: Deadline: November 13th, 2008,17:00 (5pm)

Merge

 * 1) - Per my resons above.

No Merge

 * 1) - A character from the Mario series playing a major role in a game is very different from a reference to a Mario character.  References are for cameos, official or otherwise.  If you want us to merge Captain Rainbow, we would also have to merge many other games as well, starting with the entire Super Smash Bros. series by the same logic.
 * 2) - Per Stumpers.
 * 3) - Per Stumpers; he stole the words right out of my mouth...or out of my keyboard as the case may be.
 * 4) - Per All
 * 5) - Per Stumpers.
 * 6) - Per Stumpers.
 * 7) - Birdo's role is big enough in this game for an article on it. But it's not enough for covering all the other characters. In this way it's similar to Captain N: The Game Master, that has Donkey Kong, but not enough relevant content for making articles on single episodes and other characters. It also goes for SSX on Tour, with Mario, Luigi and Peach as playable characters. I think we should also have an article on NBA Street V3 (but not about the unrelated characters and courts, again).
 * 8) This is what I have to say. No just no because there characters that have a major role in the game. Like Birdo!!! The Video Game reference page list of cameo that Mario or some other Nintendo charater has appeared. For goodness sake (I spelled it right this time instead of slake. Anyways back to were I was.) Birdo has a major role and she is a Nintendo characters.
 * 9) - As usual, Stumpers takes the words out of many mouths, of which the people cannot explain it as clearly as he does. Per Stumpers of course.
 * 10) - Birdo just as large of a role in that game as Mario plays in the SSB series, and you don't see us merging that with Video Game References.

Comments
Though Birdo is originally from Doki Doki Panic, the official website of Captain Rainbow tells that she is from Super Mario USA (Super Mario Bros. 2). But I don't think that matters in any way, Birdo, the Shy Guys and more beings from the named game are an inherent part of the Mario universe today, even if they first appeared in an originally unrelated game.

About the comment regarding NBA Street V3 and SSX on Tour (I believe those are the two games, right?), I would support that as well, for the same reason I support Captain Rainbow. Let's put a proposal together for that?
 * Hm, if Captain Rainbow and the other articles I named are allowed, then I think there is even no proposal needed. 17:41, 7 November 2008 (EST)
 * Agreed. It seems like it would be pretty redundant.

Crystal Stars
Though this isn't the case of my last proposal, the Waffle Kingdom Locations merging proposal, it is a similar situation: I think the Crystal Star individual pages should be merged into the Crystal Stars page. The pages themselves are short and are an estimate of about 10 sentences long or so. If all of the Crystal Star pages were merged, the article would be fairly long, but it would be more regular sized, which is better than having lots of individual little pages.

Proposer: Deadline: November 16, 2008, 15:00

Merge

 * 1) - For the reasons above.

No Merge

 * 1) - They were officially named, so the best thing is to just leave it IMO.
 * 2) - The stars are each officially named, require different tasks to be completed in order to be received, give the player access to another location, have their own special move, etc. They may just be the same sprite colored differently for each star, but they affect gameplay much differently than each other.
 * 3) Per all! St00by right. All 7 of the Crytals Star different just like the Pure Heats and the Star Sprits.

Changes
None at the moment.

Add a Pipe Plaza link
How many users dont even know about the Pipe Plaza, because ther're almost no links to it, so i say we should add a link to it in the left-side bar. So, who's with me?

Proposer: Deadline: November 13, 2008, 17:00

Support

 * 1) - Per me

Oppose

 * 1) - Until we can actually update the page, it will seem unprofessional to link it to the main page, but I agree it should be there soon... and if it were to be updated by the deadline I will take back this vote.
 * 2) Per Stumpers and St00by comment show below.
 * 3) - Per Stumpers and my comment below. If the time comes when the Sysops will regularly update the page, I'll be more than happy to volunteer. Until then, it should stay off of the Sidebar and Main Page.

Comments
If we could get some Sysops to actually update the page regularly, I would see no problem with it. That page hasn't been updated in 18 months, which is rather disappointing. I'd gladly volunteer to keep the page updated. Also, maybe just a link on the Main Page would suffice?


 * I remember when Pipe Plaza was created. It was a good way to keep track of things going on in the Wiki. However, it became hard to constantly update. There actually used to be a link on the sidebar, but it has long since been removed. 14:52, 7 November 2008 (EST)

I've never even heard of the thing. I typed it into the Search bar and found an article about the battle course in Mario Kart... is that saying something?


 * It was a MarioWiki page intended to be a place to find more about happenings around the wiki(This article is too short, etc.)... but it hasn't been updated since 2007. :p

The Main Page talk and Maintenance pages have replaced the function of this, and no one seems to want to change the community portal to a MarioWiki page...