MarioWiki:Proposals

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Reduce the minimum number of entries for game-specific categories
There are just too many scenarios where there are three or four game specific things: the number of levels in Donkey Kong, the number of levels in Donkey Kong Jr., the number of levels in Donkey Kong 3, the number of minigames in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, the number of ATVs in Mario Kart 8, the number of minigames in Paper Mario: Color Splash...the list goes on. It's so big of a problem that at least the moves and minigames categories are clogged up, and the problem would have been even more prevalent if not for the franchise-specific categories. Plus, there are gaping inconsistencies all over; why do we not get to create a category on Mario Kart 8s ATVs when we can make a category on Mario Kart 8 Deluxes ATVs? That's not to mention that other wikis, like ZeldaWiki and Bulbapedia, don't even have these kinds of limits. Therefore, I propose that we reduce the minimum number of required entries in game-specific categories from five to three, as that amount makes the most sense to me, though there's also an option for having the minimum at four instead.

And if you're wondering, Porplemontage gave the green light for this proposal.

Proposer: Deadline: August 12, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Three entries

 * 1) My preferred option.

Four entries

 * 1) Second choice, maybe if three ends up being too extravagant.
 * 2) As long as it's game-specific and done to avoid major category clog, I'm fine with this. I just don't want a category for a creature species that has only 3 pages, like some wikis have, clogging everything....(Moving from 3 as this option didn't exist at the time)
 * 3) Three to me is too little. I think four is at least a better minimum.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Sounds good, Per all.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker has four episodes, Donkey Kong Land has four worlds... yeah, this is a necessary change.
 * 9) Four isn't too bad, but if there are useful categories calling for three, then go for it too. No need to enforce such a hard line, so use your common sense if you need to.
 * 10) Per all, especially Bazooka Mario.

Five entries (keep current limit)

 * 1) - I'm going to agree with the five limit minimum, as if it doesn't have that many entries, the category likely doesn't need to be made in the first place. Having less than five entries just seems too little to me and makes the use of a category unnecessary, especially if there's also a navigation template involved.
 * 2) Per Alex95

Comments
"That's not to mention that other wikis, like ZeldaWiki and Bulbapedia, don't even have these kinds of limits." - I know I've said this several times before, but what other wikis do shouldn't be taken into account for what we do. 20:49, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * That doesn't mean that what other wikis do shouldn't be examined to see if and how it fits into what we do. On another note, if you ask me, the glaring omission of feels really inconsistent. Keep in mind, this applies long-term, too, so what you see as a "solution looking for a problem" now might be the exact opposite later on.  21:11, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * About the point regarding Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ATVs, why not just create a category called "Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ATVs"? Or actually, why do we even need the "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ATVs" when we already have ATVs as a category? 15:18, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 * And why is the Inkstriker not in the ATV category? Is it because it's exclusive to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and would be redundant? If you were to pass the proposal and make the Mario Kart 8 ATV category, would you also remove those Mario Kart 8 entries too (thus the ATV category would still be too small to be its own category, having only two entries, if we're following consistency with how the Inkstriker is categorized) or add the Inkstriker in the ATV category? If not, why create a third nearly-identical category? It makes more sense to me to just have one category called "ATVs" and maybe italicize Inkstriker (if that's possible) and say that italics are exclusive to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. If a new game comes out with new ATVs, then we can make a new category called "Mario Kart 8 / DX ATVs", something like that. 15:25, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 * As far as I know, italicizing within categories only happens when redirects are categorized (e.g. Casino Delfino in Category:Casinos). Anyway, I don't see a point to the ATVs category being split either. So far, they only appear in one game and its remake, so it seems really redundant to me. Just because a category can be split doesn't mean it should. 20:26, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I believe the split is to anticipate new games, but for now, I don't see the point in those extra ATV categories. 22:00, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

How about four? 00:11, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Good point. I guess this should be a multi-option proposal then. 00:42, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Create articles for the various status effects inflicted by Roy in Paper Mario: Color Splash
As it stands, Category:Paper Mario: Color Splash Status Effects is very minimal, and doesn't meet the minimum entries for game-specific categories (more on that in a different proposal (permalink)). Under the current policy, it should be deleted.

However, instead of keeping this category in a grey area, why not add information on the various status effects inflicted in the first segment of the battle with Roy? After all, Poison is one of them, which makes the omission of the other status effects really inconsistent. To break it down for you, here's a full list of the status effects inflicted by Roy:
 * Mario's action command speeds up.
 * Mario can't use cards with blue backgrounds. (conjectural name)
 * Mario's action command slows down. (conjectural name)
 * Mario can only use cards with blue backgrounds.
 * Mario can only use pre-painted cards.

If anyone has official names for the ones listed as conjectural, in the digital manual or otherwise, please feel free to let me know.

Proposer: Deadline: August 13, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Per all.

Comments
Would that be ? Rage is already a Super Princess Peach vibe. 21:10, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Yes. 21:11, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

I'm curious, why have you given one of the conjectural ones the name of "Rhythm?" Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Because there isn't really a better conjectural name to give it. If you want the game's description, it's "Mario can't resist the rhythm! Get those blue cards outta here!" Do you, by any chance, happen to have a better conjectural name for it? 00:46, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Nope, I haven't been able to acquire the game yet. I was just curious, as the description in the proposal didn't itself seem to relate. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:24, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Why not create an article of list of status conditions? Might make more sense if the names are conjectural. 15:28, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

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