MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. Signing with the signature code (~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 10) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 11) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 12) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 13) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
 * 14) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 15) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 16) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 17) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

New Features
None at the moment.

Remove Welcoming Committee
After all, it hasn't gotten that far. I think the committee is redundant because it is basically a replica of the help page. It will help save space on talk pages, it will allow those on the committee to occupy their time with something else on the wiki, and it still provides help for new users! If anybody wants to greet a new user, that would be up to them. If any users want to greet the new users, it doesn't have to be a drawn out thing to take up time. Proposer: Deadline: Sunday, 14 June 2009, 15:00

Support

 * 1) - Sounds like a good idea to me.

Oppose

 * 1) - I don't think it would do anything to add it on the sidebar, its not something you visit anyway, its something you put on someone's talkpage.
 * Per Yoshario and Xzelion's comment. Firstly, the template does no harm. Secondly, nobody will click on a link on the sidebar to be welcomed. Thirdly, if you suggest to welcome users without that template, that's even more time-consuming and reduces your argument to absurdity. I don't really have an opinion about the committee itself, though. It might be removed, since anyone can welcome a user, and the committee appears to be rather inactive.
 * 1) Per all, and, even though I did not receive a message, I wish I had, because I looked at that template a lot. It's much simpler to have it on your talk, and it doesn't take a lot of space, what space it does take is made up by it's usefullness. In addition, most messages say that you can delete it if you wan't, so taking up space is no issue. Finally, it really doesn't take much time to welcome someone, as it shows up in recent changes when a new user is created.
 * 2) - Per all.
 * 3) - Per all
 * 4) - Per all, and don't you tink that if a user don't want to have the Tempate he/she can easly can erase it
 * 5) -Per Luigifreak and Luigi 128. It's quick, easy, makes users feel welcome and can be easily removed once a user gains enough experience.
 * 6) - Per all: the welcome template is handy (I still use the one I was given), and putting something on the sidebar instead would be silly. But as Time Q said, the Committee is a little redundant (and it might even dissuade users who aren't part of the committee from welcoming people), and I'd support removing it.
 * 7) - Per all.
 * 8) Well, seeing as the Committee seems to already be gone, I'm opposing the idea of deleting the template. I meant to edit that out, but now it's too late. But I'm requesting that everybody looks at Tucayo's comment down there. I agree with him.
 * 9) - Per all. The committee is entirely pointless since any user can welcome one another. No reason to restrict that ability to just one small group of people.
 * 10) Mainly, Per All.
 * 11) - This proposal could be renamed "Make Wiki Less Friendly and More Confusing for New Users". That sums up what it's about. Per all.

Comments
In that case, forget the link, perhaps we just remove it? I mean, we already have a help page. The Welcoming Committee template is basically this with a customized comment. I don't completely see the need (besides them giving you a warm greeting, but that can just be done on the talk page without the whole template.
 * Instead of having to navigate into the helps page, it's laid conveniently onto your talk page for easy access. Besides, does the template really do alot of harm?
 * It's not the template completely. It's that we have a help page with almost the same information, why don't the new users just go around the wiki for a little bit? Unless they are trolls or complete n00bs, they wouldn't screw up the wiki. If they need help, they should use the sidebar that is conveniently placed into the site. It is everywhere they go, and they don't have to waste time going to their talk page. And I reworded the proposal. To anybody who cares.
 * Honestly, I was a total noob when I first started out, I made plenty of mistakes, I never got the welcome template (I did get a custom welcome by Plumber though), but thinking back on it, alot of my mistakes could have been avoided if I had gotten the welcome template,. Like I've said before, it's completely harmless, if an user wants it gone, they can go ahead and remove, we even have a note in the message. Besides, I've always seen that user-customized welcome templates gives an unique feeling. You're not just some random guest who gets the typical welcome message, but you get one customized & personalized from an experiences user, who also gives them advice on Wiki-things. And, even if this proposal goes through, you say people can still give them a "warm greeting", without the whole template. Like it or not, people are still gonna make subpages for their greetings, it's easier than typing out the whole message over & over. And on the "waste time going to talk page" comment, it's just as easy to access the sidebar as it is to access their own talk page.

Where is the committee currently located? It's no longer on the Wiki Maintenance page, I can't find it. -
 * The template is located here. I don't know where the actual committee is located, I hope this helps a little bit.
 * The whole welcoming committee confusion is my fault, I'm afraid. I removed the section about it on the maintenance page and deleted the Mariowiki page back when I was a sysop, but I forgot to remove the mentions on the welcome template. Sorry guys. --Blitzwing 20:00, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

Since the welcoming committee doesn't exist anymore, I'm assuming this proposal should be removed, right?
 * This Proposal is also about other aspects of Welcoming, so even though its title is rather erroneous, it should stay. -

What do you think about adding a link to the Pipe Plaza in the template? and to the Shroom :)

Wait a minute, the Welcoming Committee is already gone? Why didn't anybody tell me? Well, anywho, I agree with Tucayo, I think the template should have links to the Shroom and the Pipe Plaza. Super Mario Bros. Per Tucayo!

Splits & Merges
None at the moment.

Changes
''None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.