Talk:Mario Kart 8

More Content
More content, such as hands-on video, showcasing three courses and gameplay and the Wii U Developer Direct, which revealed Miiverse, replays and another new course is available on the Mario Kart Wii forums. Webkinz Mania (talk) 16:56, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Mario Kart TV Reference?
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn08 E3.png In this photo I've posted above, if you look under the 5th colored flag from the left under the Mario Kart sign, it looks like there is a television truck that says Mario Kart on the side, and if you watch the trailer, and pause at the right moment, you can see it clearly. So, I think Nintendo is referencing their new feature inside the game quietly? What about you? Oh and sorry for the super-large photo, but you have to have it big to notice the truck anyway! Also I'm not talking about television referencing, I'm talking about the Miiverse feature called Mario Kart TV. --BlueYoshi211 21:49, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Automatic drift reference?
I just got done watching the most recent trailer (for like the 1 millitonth time), and I noticed something odd- watch the part with Waluigi on the amusement park track, and watch the way he turns- not only does he not hop when he goes around the corner, he emits smoke once he starts turning. Do you guys think that it is a refrence to automatic drifting? If so, should we put it as one of the things returning? Please respond (AFTER watching the Waluigi part)!

ToadBoy1999

Haven't you played MK7? If you turn for a certain amount of time, you start sliding. So this might not be Auto Drift. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

NO, I have not played MK7, so I would not have known that.

ToadBoy1999
 * Ok, take it easy, no hard feelings. But that's the answer. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

I'm sorry(I wasn't trying to be mean).

ToadBoy1999


 * Dont worry, I thought you were angry. Can't tell what tone people speak in, so I gotta be careful 'bout what I say. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

2 laps?
I watched some GameExplain videos and in both of the 2 demo tracks they played the 2 courses had 2 laps, and they weren't long like Wario Coliseum. Is 2 laps a standard feature or is it just because of the demo?
 * I'm pretty sure it is because of the demo, since the Mario Kart 7 demo also had two laps instead of the usual three. --- 17:10, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
 * Just noting, but it has 3 courses, but Andre has only uploaded videos of two of them at this moment. --BlueYoshi211 21:38, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Yup, it has 3 courses. In the final version, there will be more!

All of these are...
All of the photos that follow are all from Mario Circuit, that means the 8-shaped track is it, and if you may've noticed the track with Peach's Castle is the same as the 8-shaped track. Photos are as follows: (--BlueYoshi211 22:00, 11 June 2013 (EDT))

Does this count?
Sorry to set of bob-omb (he, humorous word play) but the anti-gravity racing thing was done years ago in Crash Nitro kart, much to disappoint that this game offers nothing really new, but being a pain aside would this count as trivia? - Cubeguy(talk)
 * It's a new gimmick for the Mario Kart series, at least. 00:14, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
 * Yes but is it able to go in trivia? - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * Its not Mario Related. - BlueYoshi211

Suits of Armor
With the suits of armour on th e haunted house level, the ones with the giant hammers that try to crush passing racers, would they be counted as non-playable? - Cubeguy(talk)
 * That or make a new section for obstacles.

Maybe we should add a section for obstacles, but we would be adding lots, like Pipes, Trams, pillars, roller coasters & clock hands. Might not be worth it. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Reference in new track
Isn't the track with sweets similar to the Sugar Rush track as seen in the movie Wreck-It Ralph?
 * Don't think so, as we have had a a sweet-themed course before 19:17, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
 * I see where you're going ever since Mario was mentioned quite a lot in the movie, plus Bowser was there too. I'm starting to think Nintendo is starting to blend Mario and Wreck-It-Ralph. Anyway it does look an awful lot like Sugar Rush.


 * Wait, you forgot Tart Top, it's not just Cookie Land, since Tart Top is sweet-themed. --Meinfoo22 (talk) 20:54, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

I really did not think that Mario was mentioned a whole lot in the movie- in fact, I really did not hear of him but once in the movie! I do not think that they are blending the two together- that would cause too much contradictery- I do, however, like the idea of the candy-themed tracks. I love Tart Top and Cookie Land, and putting a candy track would really expand the sweet themed tracks!

ToadBoy1999


 * He was only mentioned once, so I don't think that puts Wreck-It Ralph on the table yet. For now, I think it's just a sweets course whose creation may have been influenced by Sugar Rush. MarioComix (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2013 (EDT)

Parts Confirmed
Wouldn't it be possible to start adding a list of parts. We can't necessarily name what the karts are, but we know what some of the wheels are. In Nintendo's Mario Kart 8 Trailer I have noted the appearance of standard, monster, and slim wheels on both karts and bikes.


 * I understand what your getting at here. But it was never actually stated that customization would return this time. Also the vehicles shown all stay the same. Until more info is dropped we really shouldn't make a list for parts. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)
 * In the demo, you can play only a set combination. I'm certain that this feature will return, as I saw Wario driving a standard kart with large wheels while other characters drive a standard kart with smaller wheels. 19:18, 15 June 2013 (EDT)


 * I know what your saying and I think that would be a good idea for now. However, if you compare the karts and bikes throughout the video you can specifically note the monster (ex: wario, daisy, waluigi), standard (ex: mario, yoshi, donkey kong), and slim (ex: peach, luigi (the slim tires do have a new design which I prefer to the old version)). Along with the conclusion of coins I am also highly confident that the customization feature will return (and I really liked that idea, mix it up a little.....or a lot).

Dry Dry Desert or just a desert track?
I've watched the trailer quite a few times now and the desert track doesn't seem to look like Dry Dry Desert much. The screenshots we have also don't show much of the track so we don't have much proof of it being Dry Dry Desert. Should we just change it to a desert track possibly being Dry Dry Desert?
 * I think that's be best, I mean to me it more resembles Dry Dry Ruins from what I've seen because of the falling pillars. So it'd be better to have it a desert course.
 * Its missing many things from Dry Dry Ruins to be that track, but it does have features of Dry Dry Desert, though the original course doesn't have falling pillars, if it is not a new course, which it may be a new course, it is probably a new feature of the track like how Nintendo has added glide ramps to the retro courses in Mario kart 7.
 * I did watch gameplay footage of the original Dry Dry Desert and it looks very similar to the start of the course, but with the falling pillars I really don't know.

I took these photos of the track from the trailer and I don't see much of a reseblence to Dry Dry Desert. While there are some similarities, I still don't think it's the course.


 * I think it's Dry Dry Desert. After all, it's appearing as a retro course. --Meinfoo22 (talk) 20:50, 18 July 2013 (EDT)



I think it Might Be Wii's Dry Dry Ruins, seeing that the falling pillars seem to return. I am not saying this is true, however- Nintendo hasn't said a word about it.

ToadBoy1999

I agree. It does look a lot like that course.

I found a clue that maybe confirm if it is Dry Dry Desert, in the image below in the photo of Mario Kart 8 if you look closely, on the right side we can see the two statues that are after the quick sand (picture below ) also have the same shape, I hope this has helped a little.



I also saw those in Mario Kart Wii's Dry Dry Ruins.

This is a link to a photo I just saw: on the right hand side, you can see a falling pillar like the ones on Wii's Dry Dry Ruins!! http://www.google.com/imgres?biw=1024&bih=616&tbm=isch&tbnid=SMbfx4ffz5_eQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/30562-mario-kart-8-video-trailer-immagini-e-nuovi-dettagli-da-nintendo.htm&docid=hJ5REpcZhxvEjM&imgurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/wp-content/gallery/mario-kart-8/e3-2013-nintendo-direct-mario-kart-8-017.jpg&w=2560&h=1440&ei=VkhMUqvCPMnirQH-rYCIBg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=407&page=4&tbnh=149&tbnw=266&start=45&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:59,s:0,i:268&tx=123&ty=60

ToadBoy1999
 * In the original track there are pillars that are already fallen in a similarly winded area, so it's likely something new they're adding on. MarioComix (talk) 22:24, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

Sorry im late lost my car keys...what? Nothing! Anyway, i saw this and decided to find "similarities" that may support it being the Gamecube version, First may i point out the wii version does not have such corners, secondly they seem to match with the gamecubes version albiet background redsigns and graphic updates make it a bit harder to work out. To sum up theres a %10 chance of it being the wii version a %20 chance of being the Gamecube version and a %70 chance of being a new track altogether. Also i would recommend, from here on out suspending discussions of unknown tracks from screenshots unless it can be strongly confirmed it is the said track. For these always end with this phrase in some way *ahem* Until more about the (subject being) track is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. Also this particular discussion has gotten pretty long, and yes iv written a lot too it just now. So until more about the track or game is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. - Cubeguy(talk)   BOO!! ^w^

So should we keep Dry Dry Desert listed on the article or change it to "Unnamed desert track"?


 * It should be changed to unknown desert track until it can be fully proven what it is. - Cubeguy2ver.pnguy(talk)   BOO!! ^w^


 * I 100% officially agree that it is GCN Dry Dry Desert, especially now with what MarioYoshi2 said above. -BlueYoshi211 20:09, 28 October 2013 (EDT)


 * How come it now lists GCN Dry Dry Desert under retro courses? There has been no real evidence. However, the fact that it was not shown in the Nintendo Direct with the other Nitro Courses, then this may be a hint that it is Dry Dry Desert.

-Yoshi dude44

In the newest trailer, there's a poster with Toad and a picture of a desert scene and if you look closely it says "Dry Dry Desert." Seems like pretty good evidence to me. (TheWoody322)

Maybe it's a new Dry Dry Desert. They do not show retro course pictures on nitro courses.

I noticed that those statues are also on Dry Dry Ruins as well. they aren't that hard to find- THEY ARE AT BOTH THE STARTING LINE AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PYRAMID!!!

ToadBoy1999

yes I know, but look at your location and compare them.





clearly do not match because the statues of Dry Dry Ruins are attached to a wall. while that of Mario Kart 8 is not attached to any wall and are located just after the curves as Dry Dry Desert. moreover, in Sunshine Airport and it was shown that Dry Dry Desert comes back as there is a sign with Toad and a desert that says Dry Dry Desert

Again, I feel it should be removed once more, mainly for the same reason we're not labeling the nitro tracks. The latest trailer showed nothing of any retro tracks and like the nitro tracks, we shouldn't rely on Sunshine Airport as a source. Even with the small similarities, there still isn't enough proof that this track is Dry Dry Desert.

Maybe they are really unattached. The Wii couses might of gotten thicker.

but which there is the entrance to the ruins is really too LOGICAL there is NO ENTRACE. Now look at the image, comparing those statues with GCN Dry Dry Desert also going exactly the same way the same curves is more than true that this track is GCN Dry Dry Desert. Also because reason would put the name of this track in Sunshine Airport? use the logic.

Sorry -______- I guess you guys were right...Sorry for the trouble.

ToadBoy1999

Points
I saw this on the Mario Kart Wii forum: http://www.mariokartwii.com/f105/points-per-position-118357.html -- It has the points per position from 1-12. Webkinz Mania (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
 * I've seen this points system before, when I was at the Nintendo experience Best Buy event. But yeah, it's different from Mario Kart Wii's one. 14:58, 19 June 2013 (EDT)

Controls
The guy in the developer direct said you can play with the Wii Wheel and Wii Remote/Nunchuck. Where do I put this?


 * I think we just wait until we put up a controls section in the article, then list the controls for the Wii Remote and Nunchuck.

They can do Wheelies
Really? Racers(in this game) who have bikes CAN do wheelies. WATCH THE NINTENDO DIRECT AND YOU'LL FIND IT HERE!!!
 * If you had a link to a video showing wheelies please share it then. MarioComix (talk) 02:08, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

in the nintendo direct http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D1I5s236o I've seen a Princess Peach do a wheelie in the minute 10:15 and at 10:20
 * So far it's only happened when she gets a speed boost from something like a mushroom. For now I don't think they can actually do wheelies manually like in Mario Kart Wii. MarioComix (talk) 21:17, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * If anyone is willing to capture a screenshot, I would believe this but, in the Direct at the said time, I only see Peach drifting. So until further notice I do not believe that bikes can not do wheelies, and can go into second tier. BlueYoshi211(talk)

I would say they would have to include wheelies in the game, othewise the motorcycles would be just go- karts with only 2 wheels!

ToadBoy1999

Further evidence, at the very beginning of the neon track we see Mario do a wheelie, and Wario wheelies in the GBA Mario Circuit.MKguy7 (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2014 (EST)

I'm pretty sure that that is just the effect on the bike when the player receives a boost. Plus, Bikes can do Red Mini-Turbo's now, so that almost deconfirms manual wheelies - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

WHAT?!? Where did you find the quote-on-quote "Red Mini-Turbos?" I never saw those ONCE in the trailer!

ToadBoy1999
 * You didn't play the demo, did you? I think they had Super Mini Turbo's, can't remember for sure, but wheelies are only possible during boosts for mushrooms or the like. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Leaked release date
I read on a site that Nintendo leaked the release date to be April next year. I have the link, but I want to know if it's a reliable source. http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/01/nintendo-accidently-reveals-april-release-date-for-mario-kart-8-3863653/


 * Delayed response: it's best if we wait for an official, public announcement of the release date.


 * 05:49, 27 August 2013 (EDT)


 * That was accidental? In that case I don't think we should follow it. As YK said we shouldn't add a release date until it's revealed officially. 06:09, 27 August 2013 (EDT)

I was doing some reading online and all of the websites that I looked up the info on say the same thing that Tails 777 said.

ToadBoy1999

Considering it's getting released in May, it's not a reliable source. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * The comments are months old... 20:08, 3 March 2014 (EST)

Just means 'don't trust this site'. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

YOU ARE WRONG(and I guess I was at first too- lololol)! IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED ON MAY 30th! I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMPED MAN!

ToadBoy1999

GBA Cheese Land?!?
I have been hearing rumors about them bringing back GBA Cheese Land. I also heard that they are bringing back the rosters from Mario Kart Wii & 7. Is this true? Please tell me if you do know!

-ToadBoy1999

Where did you find these rumors?

Nintendo Life.com.

-ToadBoy1999

Since they have not been proven we cannot edit Retro course content.

Thanks! -ToadBoy1999

Supported controllers.
According to the E3 Nintendo Direct, and also Wikipedia, Mario Kart 8 seems to support Wii Remote + Nunchuck, and the Wii U Pro Controller, along with the ones listed.

Double Dash mode
People seem to misinterpret the whole "Double Dash" idea from this interview:

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206829

But they said this: "For Mario Kart 7, and 8, we decided not to use it." so that basically means it's deconfirmed. 18:26, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

References section
Does the game having 12 players really count as a reference to MKW? We must be pretty desperate to fill that section. 142.161.163.120 14:56, 5 October 2013 (EDT)


 * Personally, it shouldn't be a reference to the game. Mario Kart 8 is on a home console that can fit more in games than the previous one so it makes sense that Nintendo would do that so it should be removed.

New Track Names
In the beginning of the new Mario Kart trailer in a scene at the airport, and in a second scene moments after, "destinations" are listed on a screen that are probably just course names. Also the name of the airport in the new trailer is "Sunshine Airport." So if it's anything like Coconut Mall (In which the course was named after its location) then that course will probably be called Sunshine Airport.

(thewoody322)
 * Cloudtop Cruise - definitely the new cloud/battleship course
 * Thwomp Ruins - the "ruins" course with Thwomps (duh) (probably the same one they showed off at E3 too)
 * Sweet Sweet Canyon - the sweet-themed course we saw today and back at E3
 * Bone Dry Dunes - probably the desert-esque course seen with part of Dry Bowser's head in it
 * Dolphin Shoals - not sure but a shoal is pretty much a sandbar near an ocean so I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this one yet
 * Shy Guy Falls - Sounds like it could be water-related, but not sure since we have't seen anything that this might be
 * This is sadly not a confirmation or a fact however, just a huge hint. This may be better to keep in the trivia section, or not at all, for now. Koopalmier (talk) 15:32, 18 December 2013 (EST)
 * Nintendo is great at showing new things for only a split amount of time, and Sweet Sweet Canyon is also shown in one of the posters just like Dry Dry Ruins in the Sunshine Airport course. So I'm adding it as the track's name. - BlueYoshi211

Confirming the real names of tracks
This is bugging me. I don't see how names listed in the airport track confirm the names of other tracks. Sure the names are convenient to the tracks confirmed, but I don't feel that's the best source we have. Nintendo themselves never said this was true and it's an AIRPORT track, for all we know, they could be names placed there as eye candy. I think it's best to wait until a more official source can confirm this.


 * I didn't personally add the names to the actual page (and I know it isn't fully official) but those names are way too close to be just a coincidence --TheWoody322


 * Even so, it's still better to wait until something more official is said about them. No matter how convenient it is, it's speculation never the less. You said it yourself, you don't know if it's officially confirmed therefore we should wait.


 * I was never saying with that comment that we shouldn't wait, I was just stating I'm pretty sure it's more than just "eye candy." --TheWoody322
 * They may be real names, but the problem is attributing these names to the tracks. I think it would be wise to just wait a little longer. 17:25, 19 December 2013 (EST)

Even so, that's the only source we have, so it should be there, just with a side note stating that they 'aren't official names'. - Guest
 * No, because if they aren't official names then they're speculation and we don't allow speculation.

Even though you're right, were did sweet sweet canyon come from? I haven't seen anything official for that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. - Guest


 * It was officially confirmed on the official Mario Kart page on Facebook.

Ok, names such as Shy Guy falls shouldn't be added yet due to lack of evidence, however, people like IGN & Gamexplain have said the same names, but that is still speculation. Sorry if I wasted your time.

Some courses and their names are confirmed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYtzinjKsMA (Some of the courses are shown in this video) - Glaceon2537

Release date pushed or for a different region
http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=news&nid=3097

This article stats that Mario Kart 8 will be released in autumn 2014. Now does this pertain to all regions, one or another or is it some mistake since Nintendo claimed it would be released in spring 2014 in the Nintendo Direct itself.
 * According to GameFAQs, AU had a TBA date in its place while other areas already have a Spring date. So I think it applies only to Australia. 00:07, 22 December 2013 (EST)

Dry Dry RUINS. Not Dry Dry Desert.
I have noticed falling pillars and the Yoshi Sphinx. Throughout the footage I can find, these are characteristics of Dry Dry Ruins on the Wii version, and not Dry Dry Desert on the Gamecube version. However, I could be wrong, as I have truly never played Double Dash. However, a majority of retro courses don't change many large things, and the pillars do have some significance. If anyone could help me, that'd be great. --CompliensCreator (talk) 20:22, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * There is a poster in the Sunshine Airport course that has Toad with a desert track, showing the characteristic curvy part in Dry Dry Desert. As well, the poster is labelled Dry Dry Desert. MarioComix (talk) 21:20, 30 December 2013 (EST)

falling pillars is simply a new feature that they have given to the track and there is not any Yoshi sphinx in any of the image.

New Reference?
Guys, I heard Sweet Sweet Canyon's music and some parts of it were a remix of Super Mario Land's music! Should this be added?


 * Well, where did you hear it? DK Fan

I really did hear it. In the trailer. All of the songs of the tracks play while they show. They are loud enough to hear.


 * If I remember correctly the trailer had music from past games rather than the new one.

No, it wasn't music from old games. I'd recognize them if they were.((User|Yoshi_dude44))
 * I hope it's not. I've never heard it before, but I might be wrong because I never really heard Paper Mario music. --MasterSkymning (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2014 (EST)
 * Besides, he didn't even specify what level the music is supposed to be from PS It's not a remix by any way or means 21:05, 10 February 2014 (EST)

That's just the courses music, so we should put that on its page when it's created. PS Yes it is a remix by any way or means - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * People like you who think they know what they're talking about f---ing irritate me 14:53, 24 March 2014 (EDT)

Watch out for potentially BETA features.
After thinking about it, I have decided that it is quite possible that the 2 player vertical split-screen has a good chance of not making it to the final game just like what happened for Mario Kart 64.


 * If that's the case it'll be taken off the article and moved to the beta elements page when the game is released.
 * The splitscreen is supposed to take advantage of HD TV's tendencies to be very wide. I doubt it would go as a beta element. Furthermore, I wouldn't make this call when the game is still far from being released and what you saw is only a demo. Should the two lap characteristic become an early element? No. 13:31, 22 January 2014 (EST)

I saw another one. In the first trailer Thwomp Ruins had a brighter sky and less clouds.
 * How do you know it's not just a moving sky or a different location? Also, how's the overall brightness between the two screenshots? Honestly, I'd wait until the game is released and devoured. 19:06, 22 January 2014 (EST)

I looked carefully in both trailers.

Mario Kart 8 DATED
I was on mariopartylegacy.com and I saw that Nintendo FINALLY dated Mario Kart 8. They said it is to be released in May.--Mario234 (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2014 (EST)

Is there an EXACT date?

-ToadBoy1999
 * Nope. Not yet anyway. 14:49, 12 February 2014 (EST)

May 29 for Japan, May 30 for North America and Europe, and May 31 for Australia.
 * Uh yeah, thanks for responding to an old post before the Nintendo Direct 21:40, 2 March 2014 (EST)

Tick Tock Clock?
Alright, I saw it added to the page and removed, but I have noticed a few things, including the pendulum and the two sets of gears near the end. Pause at 1:38 to see. Honestly, I think we have fair proof that this stage may be back. I have practically memorized the course, from how many times I've played it, and the turns, power-up locations, pendulum, and gears all seem to have a solid confirmation of this track. CompliensCreator (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2014 (EST)
 * I don't know, what if it just has a similar layout? I mean, the course received a radical change if that's the case, to the point where it is unrecognizable. 18:20, 13 February 2014 (EST)


 * Several sections look similar though, namely the part going around the giant clock with large hands. Also look at these - 1 2 - The gears seem to match that of Tick Tock Clock's, and the starting line is seen just ahead. --SM64DSMK (talk) 18:22, 13 February 2014 (EST)

in the minute 0:13 can be clearly seen the part of the clockwise(just look at the floor). just look at the background is the same. this but the comment above confirms that Tick Tock Clock also see all the retro tracks are all quite drastically changed.

I've played Tick-Tock Clock to the point where I know every single detail. It is DS Tick-Tock Clock, and if you look at the pendelum at the Morton Koopa Jr. scene, you can see it has a ligtning bolt on it, which means it'll more than likely be on the Ligtning Cup! YES!

ToadBoy1999

Cheep Cheep Lagoon
Shouldn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon be listed as a retro track? It's in the trailer! Also, I think that Shy Guy Falls was in trailer. It was that "driving on water on a waterfall" track. User: Yoshi_dude44


 * Where and when did it appear? I didn't see it once and I've watched the trailer like 15 times estimating.

I think it appears from 00:19 to 00:21. User:Yoshi_dude44

Wait, just looked. It isn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon. My mistake. User: Yoshi_dude44

Mario Kart 8 ESRB Rating
The ESRB has rated Mario Kart 8, it will be rated E for Everyone with Mild Cartoon Violence, as see on the offical NA site
 * Tanks a Lot for the reminder. I thought it was Comic Mischief as in the trailer but w/e 00:58, 14 February 2014 (EST)

The Neon Color Track
With the sign that says "Larry Lights", that means it is called what is on the sign.


 * That's speculation territory: we don't allow that 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)

'Larry Lights' looks like another advertising slogan, just like the other ones with MKTV & Mario Motors. - Ninelevendo

I know for a fact it's NOT going to be called "Larry Lights." But I do know that it is going to be on the Star Cup by several banners that appear on the part where Mario is on the anti- gravity wall with the 2 paths.

ToadBoy199

Gamexplain says it may be "Klub Koopaling".


 * Even though that might suit the theme, we need proof. It is in the Star Cup, that's obvious, but where exactly is the proof for Klub Koopaling? And please sign your comments or something. Use 'guest' at least if you don't have an account. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Quads = Karts ?
are Quads as karts classified ? --Kamek33 (talk) 09:20, 14 February 2014 (EST)
 * We don't know if they're more related to karts or bikes yet or if they're their own category 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)

I'm sure I remember Iwata mentioning during the December Nintendo direct that buggys are a new vehicle type. Either way, Rosalina is wearing her biker suit next to a buggy in the new artwork --GThing (talk) 13:06, 14 February 2014 (EST)

Look what I found on Nintendo.com
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/nIqDtjbbh-_yTuGh_LJZ0CSnykwrmji3/Ryk8ifgqkHePkBqTZcbW_NF5YB2oMJER.png

Funny thing, and it should be in a trivia section, it will have a red case, instead of the usual blue


 * Nice catch. It seems to be NA exclusive if that's the case 22:56, 14 February 2014 (EST)
 * The banner still seems to be blue though. LuigiMK8.png is Weegee's Year!PM2 Emerald Star.PNG

The image I found was blue. :/ - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

New Course?
Unfortunately, I have no screenshot, but in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC0y07goqWs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ at 0:50 it shows a new course. Should this be added?MKguy7 (talk) 11:25, 15 February 2014 (EST)
 * Yes, make sure to use the reference when you put it into the article.

That's Dolphin Shoals, with the dolphins in the background.

Neon lights course in Star Cup
Check the trailer, on the yellow banner in the neon lights course it shows "Star Cup". I think it should be added to the article that it's in the Star Cup. 12:43, 16 February 2014 (EST)


 * We don't add Star Cup for Sunshine Airport, same should be said here. Though I do agree that the course is most likely to be a Star Cup course, it's still veering on speculation which we don't allow on the wiki. Hard proof is what we want. 14:09, 16 February 2014 (EST)

But isn't confirming Names because of Posters you see also speculation? - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Track Names Confirmed?
GameXplain released another analysis video about the new tracks shown in the latest trailer. They analyzed the track names that seem to fit with the theme. Like there is the waterfall track with shy guys everywhere, seems like Shy Guy Falls. And that screenshot of the dolphin underwater track also was in the trailer for 3 secs could be called Dolphin Shoals. And the Water Park in the trailer with Wario Wheel and Sub Coaster has an ad in the Sunshine Airport that says Water Park, also a mailbox in the track itself says Water Park. So shouldn't we at least put "possibly (posible track name)" at the end of every Nitro track listed on the page?
 * No because possible is a speculative term and we don't allow speculation.
 * We're not risking adding speculative names from Sunshine Airport. If it's not officially confirmed, then we won't add it, no matter how much grasping at straws we are. End of story. 14:07, 16 February 2014 (EST)
 * Whatever it's going to end up being officially confirmed anyway.

Wheelies
The article says that bikes are unable to perform wheelies but in the beginning of the Koopalings trailer Mario does a wheelie off the starting line.


 * Is he doing a boost? Because whenever I see a wheelie, it's followed after a boost. 13:38, 17 February 2014 (EST)

It could be from a boost because he was at the starting line.


 * Yes, I'm sure it's just a boost. LuigiMK8.png is Weegee's Year!PM2 Emerald Star.PNG
 * But wasn't one seen at the beginning of the race, before any item boxes were used, and Mario has no item box at hand. I think wheelies are back. CompliensCreator (talk) 14:19, 2 March 2014 (EST)

But you can get boosts at the start of races, can't you? - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Toads Factory
I thought I saw in the Koopalings trailer that Toad's Factory was confirmed and it was listed but removed what happened?


 * That was a part of that water park course with the Sub Coaster ride on it. I watched a Gamexplain analysis video of the trailer on Youtube and I managed to get a good look at that section. It's not Toad's Factory.

In the falls course also felt like that with workers.

Track Editor?
I'm not sure if this is true or not but... http://www.complex.com/video-games/2014/02/report-mario-kart-8-will-have-track-edior

That would be cool and all, but it says Nintendo hasn't confirmed this so we shouldn't mention anything unless it is announced. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor
 * That sounds really cool, but won't it kind of defeat the purpose of putting in tracks that Nintendo already made? I think it's a hoax. MasterSkymning (talk) 19:25, 24 February 2014 (EST)
 * I definitely think it's a hoax. No way will Nintendo hide a major feature in the game. Even if it was true it's probably gonna suck anyway 22:06, 24 February 2014 (EST)

THAT IS NOTHING BUT A BIG,FAT HOAX! NOTHING ON THAT WEBSITE IS TRUE! (trust me, I know)

ToadBoy1999

Japanese box art in high resolution
Here's the Mario Kart 8 box art in high resolution, in Amazon.com.  --77.228.198.87 13:08, 22 February 2014 (EST)

Track Names Confirmed
Nintendo of Europe confirmed them. AND THAT MEANS THE AIRPORT NAMES ARE THE REAL ONES. They're the same, they're real. I'm adding them.  Superstarxalien169  19:07, 1 March 2014 (EST)
 * Only some are confirmed not all, the unconfirmed ones are still unconfirmed so they can't be added.
 * If NOE confirmed that the names are the same as the Airport ones then it must be true. Also the names are very likely. [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]] Superstarxalien169 [[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 19:16, 1 March 2014 (EST)
 * Is there a source to confirm this?
 * Just because some are confirmed doesn't mean ALL are confirmed. For all we know they could just be random names. Or like in SSB4, these could be placeholder names. MarioComix (talk) 20:10, 1 March 2014 (EST)
 * Not saying that we should add them, but they're obviously the real names. MasterSkymning (talk) 22:48, 1 March 2014 (EST)
 * Atleast leave on the Water Park one, it's pretty much confirmed due to a plaque appearing in it that says "Water Park". [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]] Superstarxalien169 [[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 15:14, 2 March 2014 (EST)
 * Until Nintendo themselves says something about these tracks, no names will be added.

Water Park is very unlikely to be the name, as it sound horrible for a track name compared to the other tracks which have pretty good names, like Cloudtop Cruise and Bone Dry Dunes. ~siwel619
 * Who knows? Maybe it does turn out to be the name of the course. Nintendo can fudge up names at points like that. This is the reason we don't allow speculation :P 21:48, 2 March 2014 (EST)


 * I don't know but so far all track names have been proven the same as airport destinations. As for i don't know about the Water Park, I'm positive Dolphin Shoals and Bone Dry Dunes are those other 2 courses. Which leaves us with 2 final Nitro courses possibly being Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road due to all the past games. LuigiMK8.png is Weegee's Year!PM2 Emerald Star.PNG

Actually, 4 more nitro courses, because Bone Dry Dunes is probably the desert track with the bones, and Dolphin Shoals is probably the ocean track with the dolphin rock formations. The 4 remaining courses could be, like you said, Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road, but that leaves 2 more tracks left, one of which could be a DK themed track, and the other one could be a circuit, seeing that only one circuit has been shown off, and in every mario kart there has been more than one circuit. ~Siwel619
 * Assuming we'll even have 16 nitro tracks anyway... 19:25, 5 March 2014 (EST)

You're right, and I just noticed that every console Mario Kart since N64 has three circuits instead of two, which could hint at an extra cup being added, or possibly increasing the number of courses per cup.
 * I think that there will be an iced-themed track. MasterSkymning (talk) 20:15, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

WAIT! I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE AMUSMENT PARK TRACK COULD BE NAMED WALUIGI SEABED AFTER LOOKING AT A RECENT NINTENDO SCREENSHOT!!!!

ToadBoy1999


 * That could just be a ride name, just like the Sub Coaster and the Wario Wheel.
 * I think that the track is named Sub Coaster, it's the main ride and the name of the museum.

And they can't just be listed as conjectural because...? You have Naming guidelines for a reason. Why not apply that here? Why does it have to be "official" all of a sudden? Perhaps you guys should find a way to overcome your personal scruples? BirdoFan87 (talk) 22:23, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
 * I think this is a different situation. These tracks will get official names near the time the game is released so there is no point on putting speculative names as placeholders. Articles like the Llama Temple or the Almighty Goomba are things that either haven't received official names by Nintendo or we simply don't know them and don't have a source to confirm them. We have them listed as conjectural because we gotta have the article somewhere and most of those articles are on subject that have been around way before the wiki even was. We aren't making these articles yet and by the time we do, the official names will most likely be out.
 * They aren't entirely speculative, as official media, in this case, a Nintendo Direct, blatantly shows the name of them inside the airport itself. Yeah, it may go by fast, but that doesn't make their existence any less valid. I could see if a third party website threw out some random track names in an article, that would be speculation. But given Nintendo Directs come straight from the horse's mouth, and that track names from those lists are being confirmed one by one, what harm is it to list them as conjectural? If they are different, then change them. I don't see how these names are "random" when they clearly match up with the tracks we have seen in the trailers. It boggles my mind how these aren't even conjectural. I've read over the Naming and Conjecture pages and these track names appear to meet all the criteria BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 00:37, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * While you do bring up a good point, I'm still not sure if we do that anyway. Like I said, it we're getting official names anyway, there really is no point on putting up a placeholder name, even if the name and track are closely related. As Baby Luigi said basically twice a few sections up, no matter how close things may be, putting them down is still veering towards speculation which isn't allowed.
 * By definition, conjecture IS speculation. They are synonymous. Yet we have a Conjecture page on this Wiki. If speculation isn't allowed, why bother having a Conjecture page detailing how to use conjectural names? BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 01:01, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * My main point is why add conjectural names if we'll get official ones eventually? Pages that have conjectural titles are articles Nintendo hasn't given names to and we've given them names that best suit what the subject is about. Now I know that is speculation, but getting a source for a name on something as old as the Llama Temple is what I assume to be a rather difficult task. In this situation, it's safe to assume that we'll get all the track names eventually so there is no need to put down conjectural names.

Conjecture doesn't involve yet-to-be-released content. It's only used for enemies, characters, etc. that have appeared in previously released games and such, but lack an official name. 01:07, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * Then perhaps the Conjecture and Naming page should be revised to include that conveniently stated detail. BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 01:14, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * It should also be pointed out, like I have posted on the forums that names could have (1. just be random names for things unrelated to the game, and (2. are liable to change because it's not the final product and it'd be better to use only the real names rather than names that we assumed to be true because of some thing we saw.
 * 1.) So you are saying, at this point, they mixed up official names and random names on the flight calendars? It only makes sense if it was one or the other. Either they are real name of tracks, or they aren't. We know what direction they are heading. 2.) Again, I do not see the problem as long as they are conjecture, which BabyLuigi claims we don't do yet we have a dedicated page to such a topic with guidelines. The fact that it's an up-and-coming game is a detail not very well expressed in either Conjecture or Naming pages, unless it was conjured up out of thin air to justify why the remaining (could be random) names haven't been out on the page. Remember folks "Shy Guy Falls" and "Dolphin Shoals" could be random. BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 03:10, 20 March 2014 (EDT)

Mind you, I don't speak for anyone else, but I think it's done to avoid excessive pages moves, edit wars, and other miscellaneous floundering about. Things like this happen a lot over at the YGO wikia for example, given that they deal wth name translations for every new card and such. The names might not be 'random' so much as they are 'sound like perfect tracks names until Nintendo takes a left turn and names them something completely different'. It's also generally considered unwise to jump the gun when it comes to official names, or at least that's what I've learned from editing over the years. 03:22, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * At least your making plausible sense, instead of giving me the runaround like everyone else. BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 03:54, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * Well, for whatever this is worth, I'm reading through some of what was said above, and at least some of what I've said has been previously stated there. Regardless, I'm glad I could clear things up some. 04:02, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * It's mostly speculation this and speculation that, and practically using that as a scapegoat reason to not add the names when this wiki knowingly has a conjecture page, and Naming page, both of which lack the detail that up-and-coming games do not fall under the realm of conjecture in the first. If they had said what you said above, perhaps many people would have understood the reasoning, but instead various editors quickly slammed the "speculation hammer" without cause. It's detailed responses like yours that makes it easier to understand the point of view of the Wiki.BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog (talk) 07:31, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
 * Birdo Fan is right about the whole speculation hammer thing. Some people need to stop saying that just because of people's wording. We've added Dry Dry Desert (or was it Ruins? Can't remember.) just because of a poster, yet we don't add Star Cup when it clearly stats that it's in the Star Cup or Lightning Cup. Please consider observations as observations and resist saying SPECULATION all the time. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * Wikis like this one work on providing accurate and correct information on articles, thus we avoid conjectural and speculative names as much as possible unless officially confirmed. The track names in the airport are considered speculation because 1. Nintendo obviously wasn't meaning to show the track names off at the time it was revealed: you could see it only as part of the background or when you paused at the certain point in the video and it required more scrupulous observation to discern the names and 2. as we stated earlier, it's possible that Nintendo can do a complete curveball and rename the tracks to something different. It's not hard to change a texture on the track anyway if they did decide to rename a track at the last second. And in my opinion, conjecture names should be ENTIRELY avoided for games that aren't released yet since if we did allow conjecture names for objects that their names aren't released yet, we'd get a storm of conjecture names on the items. And if you guys think that this is stupid and think the real name is gonna get confirmed anyway, why are you complaining about this? 15:01, 20 March 2014 (EDT)

Toad Harbor in Flower Cup
Check this out:e Instead of the Galaxy Air ad in the final version, the are replaced with banners with pictures of Fire Flowers that say "Flower Cup", so we might recognize seeing the course in the Flower Cup.

While that could be evidence that Toad Harbor is in the Flower Cup, we apparently need better evidence, or surely we would have already said that Sunshine Airport and the neon lights course were Star Cup courses. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

Easter Egg?
I found the logo "Waluigi's Sea Bed" on the very right of the image. Could this be appart of the track, or a new one?



Peteyking


 * It's just a name for a ride in the course.

Higher Resolution for NA Box Art
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517MqXtmOIL._SS400_.jpg Here it is
 * kay thanx 18:21, 2 March 2014 (EST)

Tires
Were the tire names ever confirmed or are we just speculating because they look similar to Mario Kart 7's tires? 13:40, 6 March 2014 (EST)
 * For some, I'd say so, such as the slim tires, the roller wheels and especially the wood wheels (I'll take responsibility for adding the slick tires based on Luigi's kart from the last trailer). Those I can say for sure, though the monster and standard wheels I would say are basically the same.
 * But you see, we don't add course names from Sunshine Airport because they're not confirmed. What makes this any different? 14:05, 6 March 2014 (EST)
 * It isn't any different. I wasn't saying we'll leave the Monster and Standard the way they are, they should all be changed until they are officially confirmed.
 * Mkay I'll do it 14:18, 6 March 2014 (EST)

The Slick looking tires are only green rimmed because Luigi. I think that this should be changed. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * Luigi is the only one who's used them so I don't think we can say much about it just yet. If Peach used them and the stripe turned pink or is Toad used them and the stripe was blue, then we can say something, but for now just leave it.

What tires does Roy have on? I can't tell. But they look sorta close to Luigi's. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * Looks like those slim tires to me 16:52, 7 March 2014 (EST)
 * Slim are bigger than that aren't they? I'll do some research. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * Yeah but they're skinny and even colored the same the one Wario uses in the December direct. 18:53, 7 March 2014 (EST)
 * Ok leave it like that for now, but I'll change it the second we get proof that it ain't green. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Mario Kart 8 Limited Edition
Mario Kart 8 Limited Edition - Sholud I make a article on this page about it? http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1179/11799911/2449132-mk8.jpg - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

I don't think so, i'd rather have it on the Mario Kart 8 article.
 * I said ON THIS PAGE. -Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * You should just add it to the gallery. EDIT: oh wait nevermind i just noticed there's already one like this but including the Blue Shell figurine

What I meant was should I make a section on this article about it. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)
 * Maybe the info about the special edition as well as NA getting a red case could be included under the Trivia section.  19:54, 8 March 2014 (EST)
 * Maybe not in the trivia section, but in the promotion and advertising section I just created (if it weren't for Pennzoil, though, it wouldn't be there). Though it could also fit in the opening paragraph since we DO use the American box-art by default in the infobox so that could work. 20:41, 8 March 2014 (EST)
 * I don't think this should go in the Triva section. - Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! (talk)

Extra details and possibilities discovered
Upon closer examination of the trailers and players suggestions, I found some more possibilities and details. The numbers next to the track names on the airport signs could be the record times for that course. The track leading into and out of the PTT cargo plane is actually part of the plane's wing. The cargo crate on the conveyor belt has some sort of picture on it. I can't really make out what it's a picture of regardless of the zoom level, but GameXplain said it highly resembles Gearmo. Gearmo might be another possible character in the game. There is a sea star petrified in the pavement of Bone Dry Dunes which may hint that the track was once a bustling port (due to the ship visible in the background). Royal Patisserie, Peach and Daisy may hint that Sweet Sweet Canyon belongs to Peach and Daisy. Galaxy Air and Propeller Toad Transport may hint that Sunshine Airport belongs to Toad and Rosalina. The island in the background of Sunshine Airport resembles a turtle. The shops in Toad Harbor may hint that Coconut Mall may return as a retro course. and that's pretty much all I can find for now. I'll update the moment I get more.--174.6.134.128 03:42, 26 March 2014 (EDT)
 * Um, how does that relate to anything? Gearmo is just an Ad slogan, that isn't hinting that he's (it?) a possible character. We don't have any proof of courses belonging to characters ( which we wouldn't put down anyway really). All the other little bits and pieces can go onto the tracks trivia when it's created, otherwise, we have no proof. Thanks for the info anyway. - The Blue Lighting 03:53, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

I've noticed that the ads (Royal Patisserie and Propeller Toad Transport) appear on certain vehicles too; the PTT ad on Luigi's kart as he races on DS Tick-Tock Clock and the Royal Patisserie on Rosalina's orange bike. So, I don't think they mean anything. MarioComix (talk) 04:58, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

Coconut Mall was already in Mario Kart 7 as a retro course, I think it's highly unlikely that Gearmo is a playble character. 6:23, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

If Coconut Mall was remade MK8 would be the third game in a row that Coconut Mall was in. I find it unlikely for any course after the SNES ones to be remade a third time at all anyway. I don't think Gearmo will be a playable character, and I wouldn't say anything about it yet, and since it's not really easy to make out, it may be a coincidence. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

Ok, I actually meant to say that Gearmo might have some sort of role in the game. I never said he was playable. Anyways, there is an ad sign in Toad Harbor displaying "Super Marine World". That might be the name of the marine-based theme park race track. Also in one of the screenshots of the ocean park track, there is a carousel made up of shells. Its name is partway displayed and GameXplain might think it spells out the word "Shell" since it make sense of the ride seats taking the form of shells. However, a YouTuber suspects the name of the ride may be called "Caroushell" since it's a carousel with shells for ride seats. The bird nest and eggs in Thwomp Ruins and Shy Guy Falls might belong to a bird that lives in that area. It was pointed out in the 3rd trailer at the part when Bowser and the Koopalings getting ready to enter a flying section in Shy Guy Falls during the trailer.--96.49.137.125 21:14, 31 March 2014 (EDT)
 * I just don't get why we need to know this info right now. It's practically useless speculation until we make extra stuff when the game is released. Just add this info yourself when the game is out. - 22:06, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

Agreed, there is no real reason to put them anywhere and it has been made very clear that some things like these are speculation. Yes these may turn out to be true, but they're not making it on to the main page until it is confirmed. For the minor details, they can just be added to the pages that will inevitably be made for the tracks. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

2 Rainbow Roads
Somebody from Nintendo said that the N64 Rainbow Road will be confirmed in the game. Can this be added?

I never heard of this. Where did you get that from? -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

Never mind, I just found out. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

SNES Mario Circuit 4 confirmed as retro course?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/mario-kart-8-is-gorgeous-fast-and-incredibly-fun The paragraph immediately above the third video from the top mentions it. Add it? Luigi-San (talk) 08:55, 3 April 2014 (EDT)


 * That was a mistake by whoever wrote that since they mention the large U turn being raised. I'm sure it's supposed to be GBA Mario Circuit.

GCN Sherbet Land and N64 Yoshi Valley
In one of the gameplay videos from GameXplain, you can see in Sunshine Airport there's a billboard which shows course names and Yoshi Valley and Sherbet Land can be seen. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfLbxmtr9A around 5:37
 * I don't want to be rude: But NO. These are (for now) just "MK tracks posters" In Mario Kart Wii, there was posters for Daisy's Cruiser in Peach Beach, but Daisy's cruiser appeared at all?? People.should stop to think that posters.doesn't mean anything AshleySmooth.png   Ashley   ( and Red )  Ashley WarioWare Touched.png


 * Yeah but they were on that destination board with cloud top cruised and sweet sweet canyon. You can check it out for yourself in the trailer
 * It sounds a bit uptight, but let's wait until we get more information. You can never be too careful. 19:49, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * While I do think that since all the names we discovered earlier from Sunshine Airport were in fact names for Nitro courses, Yoshi Valley and GCN Sherbet Land are high candidates for Retro Courses, I am sure this is still considered speculation and we should wait until this is confirmed. 'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

3DS Mario Circuit
In the newest trailer I caught a glimpse of 3DS Mario Circuit. --204.100.156.5

Actually, that is the updated N64 Royal Raceway. They added Cherry Blossom trees to the side for much more visual appeal. CompliensCreator (talk) 18:38, 3 April 2014 (EDT)

CHECK THAT
Check ALL this out "click here" Ashley  ( and Red )
 * The content is in Spanish. :/ Je ne le parle pas. 19:04, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Interesting. What will we do with the new items? I can't see making an article about them without so much as a name. This is just speculation, but they seem to resemble a Light Box and an 8-based item similar to the Lucky 7...(Also: It's Portuguese, according to Translate. Thanks Chrome!) Vommack (talk) 19:07, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Yep. The site is in Brazilian Portuguese :P.... @Vommack, you translated and understood...or you want my translate??I can do this.... Hardly :P I am kidding AshleySmooth.png  Ashley   ( and Red )  Ashley WarioWare Touched.png
 * Errm, no, I used Chrome's built-in translator. Vommack (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * See, I told you I didn't understand the language. 19:30, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Ok... Tranlated and trimmed: IGN has just confirmed three new tracks for Mario Kart 8: Donut Plains 3, Rainbow Road (N64) and Sweet Sweet Road. It is confirmed that 2 rainbow Roads will be in this game+ 2 new items: The Lucky7 will return with a modern design, and an item looking like the cannon/light box from SM3DW.  There are more info... If my translate looks good, I can continue AshleySmooth.png  Ashley   ( and Red )  Ashley WarioWare Touched.png

If you want me to be honest, why would they bring back the "Lucky 7"? Should't they bring in a "Lucky 8"? (get it?)

ToadBoy1999

Well Lucky 7 with a new modern look. Lucky 8? Crazy 8? Nintendoplayerawesome (talk) 19:30, 11 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Actually, 8 is considered 'Lucky' in certain areas and countries. (is it China or Japan?) So it could be the Lucky 8. Otherwise we don't know what it is yet. - 22:02, 11 April 2014 (EDT)
 * My apologizes: I've translated it wrongly. Truthly, it says: An "8" icon with the same function of the lucky 7, unofficionallly called "Lucky 8".

So the lucky 8 will be an item. Cool Nintendoplayerawesome--Nintendoplayerawesome (talk) 18:07, 12 April 2014 (EDT)

Fourth MK game with retro courses?
The page says "For the fourth time in the series, courses from previous Mario Kart games will be included"...won't this be the fifth? Super Circuit, Kart DS, Kart Wii, Kart 7, and now MK8?
 * Yeah, your right. I better change that. - 06:03, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Although MKSC had retro tracks, I don't think it should be considered a Retro Returner, if you know what I mean.

ToadBoy1999
 * Why not? It makes courses from the past game(s) return, unless you mean 'turns old courses into a blend for a cup'. - 01:21, 9 April 2014 (EDT)

Super Circuit doesn't count because the tracks in those cups were imported from Super Mario kart. Reused but not counted as retro tracks. --Nintendoplayerawesome (talk) 19:27, 11 April 2014 (EDT)Nintendoplayerawesome
 * All it's saying is that 'Tracks from past games will be included' not 'have tracks in a retro cup' if you know what I mean. - 17:07, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Kart parts info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2DbaEXVog 1:32, one of the guys confirms the name of the pink car as the "Badwagon", and at 1:50 and also confirmed in GX's Q&A, the wiggler buggy seems to be called the "Wild Wiggler".

http://prntscr.com/372ttb / http://prntscr.com/372xk3 these tires on Iggy's submarine kart... they look like some steel-type sort? http://prntscr.com/372tzd the tires on her buggy resemble buttons.

Just thought you guys might want to edit the Kart Parts section. I don't know how to edit the main page easily (new here).

Sidenote- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vVWmGQUXAM this video offers more footage of Sunshine Airport =) Mahdi (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT)


 * "Seems" to be called? Oh well, I'm going to add these if I can. Thanks. Which one is the "pink" car? The article is vague when describing it. 21:32, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Anytime. I say "seems" because it hasn't been actually confirmed from Nintendo, but two reliable sources seems good enough. And sorry for not being specific, by "pink car" I'm referring to the one that Peach drove in the second trailer and the one that Roy drove in the 3rd, or as the article describes it: the one that resembles the Flame Flyer / Wild Wing :p. The one with the boombox in the back. http://prntscr.com/372zhy -- somebody might want to put an astrix next to the Pipe Frame since Baby Daisy can be seen here driving an orange one Mahdi (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Thanks for specifying. It's really the article that's incredibly vague, so it's not your fault. I'll put up the asterisk as well. Thanks, and make sure you sign your comments with ~ . 21:45, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Just fixed the signing my comments thing, my bad. Thank you so much for editing it! Last thing, the "orange bike body that resembles the mach bike" that Rosalina drove in the second trailer is actually the same as the one Larry drove in the third, just with a different color. http://prntscr.com/3736sz, http://prntscr.com/3736mx , http://prntscr.com/37365l the backs of them also match perfectly, so you should probably change the text from "an orange bike" to "a bike" and put an asterix Thanks for your help =D

Also, a funny thing: http://prntscr.com/3736hn this frame of Rosa's bike from the second trailer actually had the Lemmy's Tire Service thing on it before he was even announced. xD Again, thank you. Mahdi (talk) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT)


 * It's not bothering me at all, and I like being given something short and simple to do. I think I remember seeing "Lemmy's Tire Service" but these kinds of sponsor don't really confirm the Koopaling thing, but I guess it's a nice basis for hindsight bias. Oh well, thanks! 22:12, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Haha no prob, I'll update this if I find anything else, and others feel free to as well Mahdi (talk) 22:14, 4 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Okey dokey, then! 22:15, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

http://prntscr.com/39hu95 these tires look like they have pretty good traction and look pretty similar to the standard ones. Basically blue tires that are similar to the standards. http://prntscr.com/38lbbv - Hmm. Looks like some flowery type of tires. Idk, it's kind of hard to make out

I hope you guys don't find these pointless, just some things that I found =p There was this other kart that I saw the princesses driving which looked very similar to the Daytripper from MKW, but there were flapping wings in the front of it, and it had a pink paintjob. It seems to act similar to the Birthday Girl in 7 in the sense that probably only female CPU's will use the kart, but I can't find the videos where I first saw it unfortunately :/ Mahdi (talk) 21:50, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
 * It's not pointless. Also, I'd like to use this particular kart if it does exist. :P Well, if you find it, please let us know. 14:02, 10 April 2014 (EDT)
 * The flower tires seen here looks like this game's incarnation of the Sponge tires from Mario Kart 7 14:37, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I think I found the kart part you may be referring to. In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LnJs9DsOO4 Rosalina's riding a kart that kinda looks like the Daytripper, but with wings in the front. It's hard to see, but I think this fits the description.
 * @0:42 you can have a good look at it. Thanks. 18:50, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, that video just barely had it so I thought that it wouldn't be a good enough source, along with one from a Cloudtop Cruise and Cheep Cheep Beach footage. Mahdi (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Trivia
Is there any trivia for Mario Kart 8? I have some information if you guys want me to put it in. Luigifan100 (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
 * What'cha thinking 'o puttin'? - 05:52, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

It's the first game in the series to have music orchestrated.
 * As long as you have proof, you can put it in there. - 08:13, 13 April 2014 (EDT)

Hi I'm new here and I noticed that Dolphin Shoals isn't in the Unconfirmed Cup if you know what I mean, in that yellow Box at the bottom of the Page.

Diddy Kong?
The latest "Revista Oficial Nintendo" dedicated an article about Mario Kart 8 and listed Diddy Kong in the Playable Characters. Can this magazine be considered a reliable source? http://www.hobbyconsolas.com/noticias/numero-260-revista-oficial-nintendo-ya-venta-68594 Ponyshment (talk) 11:24, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Yes and No. Because yes, you could put it as a reference, but Waluigi isn't there...so this.could be a mistake: Diddy instead of Waluigi. Also these scans don't look ro be official: They use already released art (instead of exclusive) for the MK8 arts of the wiki. The other ones are the arts used in the later games...so, yes, I think tgat you could...but is at your risk. :P Good luck!
 * I can't edit this page anyway so I'll let someone else do it if they think it's legit. Since it's an official Nintendo magazine, I think it's not that risky to trust it. Also, Waluigi isn't the only character missing: Donkey Kong, Toad, Toadette and Koopa aren't present on the page as well. I doubt Diddy Kong replaces all of those by mistake. Ponyshment (talk) 13:29, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I'll do that for you, then. Also, are you from Spain or Mexico?
 * I'm going to remove it because Waluigi isn't there. Is the magazine really official as it says, or is it just official in name only? 15:54, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * It's the Official Nintendo Magazine for Spain, but the editor admitted that Diddy's announcement was a mistake. He's still unconfirmed.
 * Makes me wonder what "mistake" he means. Does he know anything, does he want to avoid potential leaking, or does this deconfirm Diddy Kong? 15:56, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I think that, just in case, we should leave out Diddy Kong. Unless we can be sure that this was a mistake or an accidental reveal I wouldn't put that on the article just yet. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor
 * Yeah, leave him out until he's announced, because I think we might have more than just 1 character to return. - |

Three Empty Slots?
In this screenshot this picture shows there are 3 empty slots. I'm not sure if this is real or not but i though you may wanna check it out: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kV-MSEkPGSU/U0vaD8mfz5I/AAAAAAABPEw/FJOSKpNdMQY/s1600/mario-kart-8-roster.jpg


 * It looks legit, and there is another similar image. 19:12, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Hmmm... Diddy Kong IS playable.


 * Is this image reliable enough to confirm there will be 30 characters in the game? And also, this doesn't confirm Diddy Kong.
 * It's definitely real. But we don't know if there will be 30 characters. It's possible there could be a hidden row. 20:34, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Or this is an demo/beta screen.
 * This is a demo screen. So it may not be final. 20:37, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Hmmm. Thought as much. Still doesn't confirm Diddy Kong or Bowser Jr. or anything, but I think that we can say it will at least have 30. AT LEAST. - 02:00, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Maybe Bowser Jr. (if he wi'll be playable) is next to all the koopalings. He is after all one of Bowser's Kids to??
 * It's funny how The Koopalings (who aren't considered Bowser's kids anymore) where announced and yet there isn't Bowser Jr.(who is considered Bowser's kid). My guess is that Diddy and BJ are playable, can't get my mind about who's the other one. Anyway, I think I should add that there are 30 confirmed, 3 unknown. - 04:14, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I'm guessing they just want to show off newcomers for this installment rather than veterans. I removed what you said though since there's a possibility that 1 there might be hidden rows and 2. It's only a demo so it may not be representative of the final game -baby luigi
 * By 'you', mean CrazyMan14, right? But yeah that's fair enough, we should probably leave it for now. Or we could say 'out of a possible

30', similar to Mario Golf: World Tour, but I'm fine with it. -
 * Well, I think they did not show the full roster, but surprised us with Diddy playable.


 * Maybe there need to be in the page that there are 30 characters 27 announced 3 TBA???? 04:00, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Yeah, but we'll put 'out if of a possible 30', maybe? Because we know that we have at least 30. - 04:04, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Dolphin Shoals
Hey I noticed that Dolpin Shoals isn't in the Yellow Box yet (in the Unconfirmed Cup together with Bone Dry Dunes) I think you should change that


 * Remember to sign your name. - 04:15, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

How? I'm new here


 * Use ~ 10:02, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
 * So text and then Billy-Luigi (talk)? and how do you guys post those Pictures like that Baby Luigi and Mario???? Billy-Luigi (talk)
 * Yeah, or you can just use the template because that's easier to do. The pictures are called signatures, my link shows you how do make them.  10:59, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Track Pictures
When will they add Pictures of the new and retro tracks?

There is a link for the Gallery for this article close to the bottom of the page. There are plenty of pics there. 'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

Mario Kart 8 Tracks
Maybe you should start creating Pages of the new Courses in this game? there's already alott of info of some tracks? I'm-a Luigi, number one! 17:45, 15 April 2014 (EDT)


 * We can wait a bit longer. Despite the info we have, the layout sections of each new track would still be difficult for some tracks (Dolphin Shoals, Electrodrom). Another thing to keep in mind is it's best to have pictures that best suit the info box and the current photos we have are screenshots of races. Overviews of each track are more suited. Either way, we should still wait.
 * Oh Okay 03:56, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Reference to a non-Mario game
I was playing some other games I have, and I thought "The anti-gravity mechanic could've been inspired by Crash Nitro Kart, because I had anti-gravity too." Anyone else agree. --Mario240 (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2014 (EDT)Mario240
 * We already discussed this matter in one of the earlier articles. Read that, THEN comment on this. - 22:07, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

New Article toughts
I've created a new page called Toad Harbor. Do you guys think it's good or should it be deleted? 06:56, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * In its current state, deleted. It lacks a description, a course layout, a course map and time trial times. This is why as stated a few sections above this that it is not a good idea to create the articles until the game is released as information needed for them is not available.
 * Then can you help me adding the course layout? Because I'm not good at that because I'm not 100% english :/ 07:03, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * But It's a good start right? 07:04, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I have other things I need to do, I can't sit through every MK8 Toad Harbor video to try and get a full course layout, as said before create the articles when the game comes out. Draft them in a workpage and when create when all the information that needs to go into the article is available.
 * Oh okay but can it please stay. This is my first page I created and I'm kinda proud of it? please? 07:15, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Yoshi? Can the page stay? 08:23, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I remember the first page I ever made (duh, it was about a month ago) called Mario Golf: World Tour Mii Gear. Nobody really edits it, probably because the game isn't out or anything, but if there is 500 items it will be useful. I say we let him keep it, but just this once. - 08:34, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Thank tou :) 08:57, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Unless it is expanded, policy says that it has to be deleted. Seeing as not all info is available the course layout should suffice, but I ask you to wait until the game is released before creating any more courses, and I ask you to make them like how Toad Harbor will look when it's not a stub.
 * So it's going to be deleted :( 09:20, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Not necessarily, it's a got a week for someone to add in a course layout, there's bound to be someone who can.
 * Kay 09:30, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Courses
Can I put this in here? 08:51, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Retro Courses

 * Because Nobody answered Yoshi :/ 11:30, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I just want to be sure if I can add this with permission 11:33, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * It looks very good. Put it into the article, if no one likes it, delete it. :)
 * The chart looks good, but the question mark blocks seem a bit unnecessary. TBA can just be put in those slots instead, like we did with Mario Kart 7 before it was released.
 * That's fine, but I would say that once the game is released we should change the images. If you look here all the listed courses have their images from the respective game's course selection screen. (Except for the SNES ones which had none, and Luigi's Mansion) 'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

Nice, but Electrodome may start the Star Cup. Edit that if possible.
 * I added one of the Retro Courses too if you guys like? Is that Okay? 16:07, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

For... whoever that was after my last comment... may? Is that an assumption or have you seen that somewhere? -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor
 * Also, the Retro courses one is good, but just for reference (I'll fix it myself this time), "Donkey Kong Jungle" is named DK Jungle, using the abbreviation.

-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor
 * Oh Yeah I forgot that :p sorry 16:32, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I'm sure the comment about Electrodrome's placement is just because the official order of the whole cup hasn't been confirmed yet. It could be first, it could be second, we don't know yet.
 * Maybe If we find a gameplay video of

Sunshine Airport, we can see the point roster. And thanks to that we might know if it's first or second? 17:20, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Okay it has been deleted by this user: User:Crazyman14 WHY????!!!!! 18:09, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * See the message I posted on the User's talkpage after your message. While I would like to hear a reason, you should stop freaking out over the fact that an edit of yours was undone.--Vommack (talk) 18:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Okay I'm sorry for freaking out but that Tabel was kinda of a big deal for me and I was realy proud of it. 18:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * You know, you need to plan this out a bit better, it doesn't fit in the page. Plus, you also have it with the rest of the courses section. One needs to go, either the table or the other bit. Try using User:Billy-Luigi/Work to plan it out, for example you can look at my workspace here, but you don't need to make it. Any way, if you want to keep it, make it smaller. - 04:06, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

"The musical beats that occur when the player is first place also return from this game."
I Watched the video of "The musical beats that occur when the player is first place also return from this game (MK7)" and the player isn't first at all?? 10:51, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Maybe you're listening to the wrong part? 14:24, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Then at which part do I need to listen? 15:09, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Around the beginning of the third lap. 15:12, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Is it the music when he reached the third lap? because that's from MK7 15:19, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * If you want another source, here, @ 0:29 too. And no, it's those added percussion that has originated from Mario Kart 7 15:18, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it's a remix of the music that plays whenever you're first and comfortably in the lead, not when you're in the third lap. The only reason I showed the third lap is that it's easier to hear there. 15:20, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Oh I get it, the music when he BECOMES 1st yeah that's from 7 15:26, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I noticed something else too, at the end when he crossed the finish line at the top left corner you see plus 5/6?? What's that??
 * I have no idea, although it could be related to star rankings? I don't know. 15:33, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I know it, you can choose 6"highlight reels" to be your favourites, at the end of the clip you see it again without the 5/6! 15:34, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Oh, so they're related to highlight reels? Hm... 15:36, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Highlight Reels -_- why don't Nintendo just calls it "replay" -_- 15:39, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I guess it's more specific? P.S. Remember, this isn't a forum for Mario Kart 8; we need discussions about the article, not the article's subject. 15:40, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Oh! sorry my bad, so can this be added that you can choose 6 Highlight Reels as your favourite? 15:43, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * I'd wait until more information is given, because I'm not exactly sure how this process goes. For starters, what really happens if a highlight reel is selected as a "favorite"? 15:44, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Oh okay 15:49, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

Final 3 Possible Characters
I apologize for asking ahead of time. On an official Spanish source, there is information that confirms Diddy Kong as a playable character. Should that information be cited and added onto the Mario Kart 8 page? Lastly, I've seen around the web pages that confirm Funky Kong and Kamek as the other two final characters in the game. Unfortunately, I have no source evidence of the information stated above. Would someone mind looking into what I mentioned?

User: FireFlower
 * I'll look into it, but really have trouble believing that hey replaced BJ, who is a MK veteran, for one of those two. - 21:29, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

I understand but Birdo and King Boo are also a veterans for example. Would it be logical to assume, that Diddy Kong is returning due to the source, Funky Kong of popularity, and Kamek because their is a slot next to the Koopalings? I don't see Bowser Jr. appearing because of the Koopalings.

User:FireFlower
 * Come on, a veteran that has made a playable appearance in almost every series and is Bowser's Kid, getting replaced by them? Anyway, don't see how those guys are in, but do you have any links to those articles? - 21:40, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

I don't but I can tell you where I saw the link. If you type in "Diddy Kong is unconfirmed after all" click the link and scroll to the comments. In the first comment box there should be a link. It may not work but if it does you'll see what I saw. Thank you for looking into by question so soon by the way.

User:FireFlower
 * No problem, but I still can't find it. If you find and and are able to.make a link, that would be appreciated. Thanks :) - 23:01, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Will do. In your opinion, do you think their is going to be a baby Rosalina? I ask because if you look at that leaked roster, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina are lined up to each other. Then two rows down, we have Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy and then an empty slot. Do you think that's possible or is it only me?

User:FireFlower

they probably won't put baby rosalina because baby mario, luigi, and peach are there cause they were characters in yoshi's island series. baby daisy wasn't but she is a counterpart to peach anyway so that really didn't matter. but you never know they might actually read this post and think of yet another big twist in gameplay. I hope this answers that opinion.

And can y'all stop "speculating" on the characters? Talk Pages are not the places to discuss this, instead go to the forums. Talk Pages are to discuss how to make the page better, not your "ideas". For example, a source said something about a Baby Rosalina, then ask if it should be added, but this is getting out of hand. MarioComix (talk) 02:02, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
 * He's right, although a little bit can be said, not a whole paragraph on who you think is there. Me talking about Bowser Jr. is usually just me not seeing why that would happen, and displays my option while keeping on topic. So have you got any of ye links yet? Cause I'm thinking your source isn't reliable enough to take into consideration. Sorry, I think I started all that "speculating", so blame me. - 02:28, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

I found the link and tried to upload it to the website. It didn't work, or I might have done something wrong, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Sorry about the source I found but couldn't do anything with and I'm also sorry about talking about speculation here. I'll be more cautious next time.

User:FireFlower

Battle mode?
I'm not sure whether i'm the only one that realized this but Nintendo haven't released any information on battle mode? did they take out the awesome coin runners and balloon battle or are they just waiting to give a surprise?

Sadly at this point we just don't know. What we do know is that there very likely be battle as well as vs modes; this guy in a MK8 preview video said there were 4 modes on the menu, but of course it was a demo so it was locked. Hopefully in the coming weeks we will learn more about battle, as well as online modes. Mahdi (talk) 00:36, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

There may possibly a new mode. If there be a new mode, I don't what it would be. Maybe the next video about the game will tell us more. Does anyone know when the next video or batch of information about MK8 will come out or is it spontaneous. User:FireFlower
 * The four modes on the menu could just be 1 player, multiplayer, wi-fi and records, so I would wait for more info. And we don't really have any way of knowing when new info is out, so just be patient. - 02:31, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

That 8 item.
I was reading the page, when I saw that there was an Unknown item, that was exactly like the '8' on the Artwork. I think this will be like the Lucky Seven, or maybe it is just a placeholder for a new one - much like the MKDS beta Chain Chomp.

Oh, and also: What will this 'Potted Piranha Plant' do? Because, I think that maybe it will attack the player next to you (like mario_course or old_mario_gc in MKDD and Mario Kart Wii, or whatever the file names are), and the other player flips over like in MKDD when getting hit by a Red Shell from the side.

Oh, and have they based the Title Screen or any of the Courses off another game - MK7 had similar title screen to MKDS Beta's SEQ_CIRCUIT2, for example.

This is my first post for a long time on this wiki, because I forgot about my account. Also, I prefer a capital letter at the start of my username now. But I will shut up, because this caused problems on NSMBHD... Sorry I go on too long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Luigi442wii (19th April 2014, 2:04 pm GMT (British Summer Time in place)

For the 8 item, either of those could be true, but we can't say anything until we know for sure what it is. The Potted Piranha Plant attacks nearby racers and when it does it can provide speed as well, similar to its recent debut in Super Mario 3D World. (And by "old_mario_gc you mean GCN Mario Circuit, right?) As for the title screen, I'm not sure; I myself have not been to the recent demo so I don't know if they showed a title screen. And what do you mean exactly by Mario Kart 7's title screen being based off of a beta race course? -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor