User talk:Time Q/Archive 3

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Okay
Cool your jets, dude. Don't be hatin'!

What's wrong with having a big sig? (hahaha... big sig... that's humorous ) --R.O.B 128 06:04, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

I've dealt with haters like you before. Your words towards me sound very familiar. I will back that up by typing that I've seen ALOT of sigs that are larger than that test box. Are you targeting me because of my user name? --R.O.B 128 09:14, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

By the way, I only "signed my name" on one talk page. --R.O.B 128 09:16, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Gee, that's all you had to say. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. You do your job very well. --R.O.B 128 10:05, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Well, in that case, why did RAP put a Personal Image tag on the animation and not say it was bad or anything? And also, have you seen how many other Users have animations in their sigs? Are you really going to go around to all of them?

Bribery
OK, if I give you $1,000,000, will you let me keep my signature? Nah, just kidding. OK, so if you think it's too distracting (I don't - and the colours aren't that bright anyway), then how about I just use one of the 2 frames in the GIF as a standard JPEG image, and make it slightly smaller? Surely that would be OK?

Image Use Policy
I noticed that "policy" in Image use policy is not capitalized; could you move the page, so it is?
 * Hiya again, but could you cross out anything that I fixed at the Baby Luigi Nomination page, so that it can pass standards? Thanks.

Hello
Hi Time Q. How are you?
 * I tried to come up with a rhyme for "Toadette" too, but I failed. How do you pronounce it anyway, is the stress on the first or the second syllable? Uhm... I'm fine, thanks, and you? (I know what made you talk to me - the Virtual Console release of Super Mario RPG - am I right? ;) 13:45, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't really know about the stress syllable. I'm fine, except for the fact that we still don't have Mario RPG, while the other regions do. I hope I get to see the screen on my userpage Monday.
 * I hope it for you and the other Americans too. But why should they leave out just NA. 13:54, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Because Nintendo of America has issues. I asked them a question last night (I bet you can guess what it is), and they replied today and said that they don't have a list or any release dates of upcoming releases. It's really messed up.
 * Strange. Just strange. :| 13:59, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Srsly. They said they can't give release dates because they are subject to change. Why change them? If they do that, it makes me wonder if they want us to hunt them down with torches, pitchforks, and sticks.
 * Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think Nintendo of Europe, for example, would give such release lists either. (Or do they have such? IDK :/) 14:09, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * They probably do, but knowing NoA, they like to PO us before they do something nice for us. If it isn't here Monday, well, I don't know what I'll do, but I'm sure I'll do something about it.
 * Okay, but better not hunt them down with torches and stuff. Perhaps they do plan to do some nice things in the future... 14:25, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Mega Man was probably the most decent game released since DKC3.
 * I'm not really informed very well what they're releasing on the VC... 14:34, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It's most likely because they don't tell anyone what they're releasing. As I've stated before, Nintendo hates everyone.

double accounts
sorry about the several accounts i didnt really know what i was doing so... ya sorry

Uploading Trouble
Hey, Time Q. I'm having some troubles uploading images. I'm trying to upload some sig images for me, but whenever I hit the "Upload file" under the page "Special:Upload", it won't upload. I had filled in everything that was needed; do you know if I did something wrong? --Palkia47 09:09, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Have you checked that the image title has neither of these symbols: &, +, ?, and that your image isn't too big? Those would be the only things I can think of that cause problems. 09:14, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I've checked both before I tried uploading them last night, and they didn't have "&" "+" or "?". The image is a small one, just a tad bigger than the sigbox.
 * That's strange. Does any error message appear when you're trying to upload it? You could also upload it externally, so I could try to upload it here. 09:21, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * No, new message pops up. As soon as I click the upload file button, nothing happens at all. Upload externally? How can I do that? --Palkia47 09:22, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * There are external websites where you can upload images, try ImageShack for example. I could download the pic from there, and try to upload it here, to see if it works for me. 09:24, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd be greatful if you could do that for me :). Here's a link to the first image: . Thanks! --Palkia47 09:30, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It worked :) Could you select the appropriate license for this pic, please? 09:37, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Uh... technically, I'd have no clue what license it would be under. Would be under "Character Artwork" or something like that?? --Palkia47 09:40, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It depends on what you want to allow others to do with the image, see here for some options. I have to go now, so if you have questions, I can try to answer them later. If you have more images to upload, you'll have to wait a few hours, or simply ask someone else in the meantime. See ya later, 09:44, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok. Thanks, and see ya! --Palkia47 09:46, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry for meddling, but since Giratina is a copyrighted Nintendo character, "Character Artwork" would be the only option. --Grandy02 09:48, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, thanks. I didn't know it's a Nintendo character. So yeah, "character artwork" is appropriate. 13:12, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm now also having uploading trouble. When I try to, this comes up: The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again. You know how to get rid of that? { 1 October 2008
 * I'm not sure. Did you make sure it really has a correct extension? And have you tried to upload a different file to see if it works? 16:26, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Correct extension? 11:42, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
 * File extension. The letters following the full stop in the file's title. 12:03, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, maybe I should have been more specific. I'm trying to upload my sprites as a png. It doesn't seem to work. Which extensions will work?
 * Well, I don't think there's something wrong with png files... sorry, I don't know what the problem is. You could ask, he seems to know a lot more about images and stuff than me. 16:08, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
 * 'k

Dixie Kong FA
Hello. I just wanted to know if you finished reading Dixie's article. Javier12345 00:00, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Not yet. It's too long :D Nah, I'll see if I can do it soon. 05:19, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't know if you've forgotten or anything, but have you tried rereading Dixie's article? It's just that... once one month goes by, they get deleted, correct?
 * Oops, I'm sorry. I've forgotten indeed. I'm quite busy ATM, but I really hope I can do it soon... I'll definitely do it before the nomination gets deleted, I promise. :P 18:57, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Images
Hey Q! Do you have time to do those last two images? --Palkia47 08:37, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Sure. 08:40, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * 'K. Here's link one:, and here's link two: . That's all I need. --Palkia47 08:47, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, it's done! 09:02, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Yay! Thanks! Is there anything I can do in return? --Palkia47 09:05, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Nah, I don't think so. You could try to find out what caused the uploading problem though, haha. ;) 09:11, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, I was thinking of doing that. I'll see what the problem is. --Palkia47 09:13, 25 August 2008 (EDT) Thanks, again!

Konnichiwa
Hi Time Q. What's up?
 * Uh, not much. Have you burnt Nintendo down? ;) 10:49, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Nope, not yet. I'm seriously close to throwing things at Reggie, though.
 * So it still isn't released in NA. Oh well. 10:56, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Why did you delete the page I made
donkey kong wii

Re: Unfeaturing FAs
Personally I disagree with the minimum character limit...but with the type of people that constitute the userbase, I can see some mistakes possibly made with other articles. But before I say OK, please tell me – why don't you give the userbase fix the current problems to the FA before removing it? 16:32, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh OK – most definitely add that in. I give you my OK (not that you needed it anything :P). 17:04, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

you do have a article about a rumored game
donkey kong 64 DS

Re: Time
Yeah, I kind of see your point. I was just thinking as Time being a generic word, but not "Time Hole". But okay. Also, I was reading your un-feature thing on Wayo's talk page, and just wondered some things. So, with "Un-Featuring", is there some sort of time limit? So, let's say User Y nominates Article X for un-featuring. And then, nobody(not even W :P) makes the effort to fix whatever Y proposed was missing with the article. Does the nomination just sit there, or the article gets un-featured after a certain amount of time? You just said "...in case there's nobody willing to improve it, the article will lose its FA status.", but didn't state an exact time.
 * Oh. Somehow, I assumed you had already removed it. But no worries, I just took it off. And, I was also expecting you to answer 1 week, but by 1 week, I'm still confused by some things. So, if a user nominates something as un-feature, and for some reason nobody even notices the fact that it got nominated, does the article become un-featured, without anyone noticing? I'm guessing we might use a system sort of like the FASTAT template(UNFASTAT?) at the top of a nominated page, just so people notice. And maybe a section on MarioWiki: Featured Articles about un-feature nominations. Also, if you're really going to make it like the FA process, shouldn't you wait until there's 5 votes to un-feature it? And no oppose votes on top of that, maybe? It seems more logical, and would probably eliminate the problem with nobody noticing the nomination; although, I know your eyes are too keen to miss that sort of stuff. ;)

Hi again
did you hear about super mario galaxy 2?

Status Report
As if now, I have not found my problem when trying to upload. --Palkia47 08:41, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

Just a Question
Did you accidently delete Apook Corporation? Cause that dude just made it again.
 * It is a redirect, and he made it before he made the article it linked to (Apook). I didn't know then that he was going to make the article Apook. So actually he's right, I should have waited a bit longer before deleting the redirect ;) 14:07, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh ok. And thanks for the little tip on The Cave of the Mystery Maze ;)

Mario Party WIki
Hi there Time Q, I saw on your very long list, that you own the first 3 Mario Parties. Im the admin of Mario Party Wiki, and our articles on those minigames are... lacking. Want to help out?? Mario party Wiki -- Count Caterpie. (Tell me on my Talk Page, if you're interested)

RE:SMRPG
Now all I need is 800 Wii points. :D

Need help?
Do you require assistance in a subject of important matters?
 * Uh... are you talking about a specific subject, or just general? 13:18, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

I meant in general. I really want to be an admin. --R.O.B 128 13:25, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ah, okay. Have you seen this? 14:00, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Okay. I read it. You got any projects I could do? I won't nominate myself until I make a certain amount of edits. --R.O.B 128 14:12, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Dunno. You could choose a game, or comic series, or whatever to write about (and which we are lacking content about). 14:45, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Uhhh... I see the Dr. Mario series needs help. I'll start there. --R.O.B 128 08:15, 5 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 'k, go ahead. Thanks for offering your help. 08:16, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

You are welcome. --R.O.B 128 08:57, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

Sig.
Hey Time Q. is my sig better?

D'oh. *facepalm* Sorry, must go to school now, don't have time to fix, sorry.Garlic Man


 * Okay. But again, sorry that my message this morning was so abrupt and short. My school bus was literally rolling in as I was typing, so I was pretty rushed.

Re: Removing Comments
You see, most of those comments were posted at a time when I wasn't thinking straight. The comments were pretty stupid, and no one had responded to them, so I figured it really wouldn't matter if I deleted them. Yeah, I'm gonna try to think I little before I post a comment from now on, so that probably won't be happening again (right after I remove my comment on the Super Mario RPG discussion board and go ahead and change the article myself :) but that's the last one).

Green Day
Hey, Time Q. I read on Pokemon DP's talk page that you were a fan of Green Day. So am I! I was wondering, do you have any of their albums? 18:11, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hi Stooben. Yeah, I have Dookie, Insomniac, nimrod., Warning:, and American Idiot. As for the other albums, I borrowed them once and put the songs on my computer. What about you? 18:37, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * All great albums. I have International Superhits!, American Idiot (which I am :P), Dookie, and Warning. The first two are my favorites though. I like how American Idiot is all an ongoing story revolving around Jesus of Suburbia; it's pretty inventive. :D 19:04, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * True :) Insomniac might even be my favourite, it's just straight and... yeah. I haven't listened to American Idiot in a while though, simply because I listened to it three years ago over and over again, and now I'm a bit bored of it ;) Hope they will release their new album soon. Have you heard about their side project, "The Foxboro Hot Tubs"? 04:14, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Insomniac is awesome; I can totally agree with that. :) I've only had American Idiot for about four months, so I've yet to get bored from it. I can't stop listening to Holiday/Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Yeah, I hope so too. No, I haven't heard of it; what is it? 04:37, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Basically it's Green Day. They recorded an album some months ago, just with a different name. They make 60's-like music, but you can definitely make them out, see here for more info :) 04:51, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, I think I'm gonna like that. :D Even the album art to Stop, Drop, and Roll!!!! looks like it's from the sixties. Thanks for the info. 04:57, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Yoshi (series)
Hello, Time Q. I was wondering three things about the article:
 * 1) Are there enough game summaries in the article, or should I add one on Super Mario World?
 * 2) Are the character bios summarized well? Should there be additional character summaries?
 * 3) Your request to add "elements unique to the series" in the article; are you referring to certain things such as the Egg Block, the Yoshis' abilities, etc, or something else/additional?

10:39, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hi Stooben. I think there are enough game summaries, we don't need one on SMW IMO since it's not part of the Yoshi series. From briefly looking at the character summaries, I think they are all right. As for your last question, yes, I was thinking about this exact thing. For example, there are objects that appear in both Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Island DS, and some of them might also appear in any of the spin-offs (I can't tell, didn't play them). It's just a suggestion, so if you think we don't need this, I'd be fine with it too :) 10:51, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Awesome, thanks. I've only played YIDS, but I think I can manage to make a "common gameplay elements" section. Granted, it may not be very large, but I'll see what I can do. :) 10:59, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, I'm finished. If you think it should be longer/shorter, just let me know. 11:38, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Game Boy Camera
Hey Time. Just wondering, why'd you delete the Game Boy Camera article? OK, so it might have been a trashy article, but Mario did appear in it. Permission to recreate the page?
 * I don't know if it was true what the article said, but assuming it was: It was a cancelled camera? For a cancelled game? This doesn't sound like we need an article about it. BTW, the Camera did exist, so why did it say "cancelled"? But well, if it is relevant enough, of course you may recreate it. I just don't think so :P 09:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Re:FAs
I actually wasn't early this time; I was actually about 4 hours late for both... Ganondorf was supposed to be featured at 16:52, and I archived at 20:24. Similar deal with Sir Grodus as well.
 * It is? I thought the wiki was supposed to go by the wiki clock. Because not everybody can automatically convert to EST, but they could look at the clock on the wiki, because it's always there to see. Ah well. Sorry then. I didn't know.
 * By Wiki Clock I meant the times that display on history pages, Recent Changes, and Watchlist. I'm pretty sure they all display the same time, regardless of time zone. Mine says 22:17 right now. (It's based on GMT, I'm pretty sure)
 * Yeah, the time is displayed as 18:14. At first, I thought it was done by time zone, but after looking back at my old talk page archives, I noticed Dom, who lives in Australia, had his signature time at EDT. Now I'm really confused. The signature times and the clock on the wiki itself contradict each other. And I don't see any official thing as to which we're supposed to use, either.

Featured Articles
Hai, Time Q! Um, how exactly do you make a Featured Article page? --Palkia47 08:28, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hi! It's all explained here. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. 08:31, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Mkay. Thanks, Q! --Palkia47 08:33, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Hey again; I need some more help. What should I put down after the nominate part and the passed part when nominating an article? --Palkia47 08:53, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Did you use the edit field at the page I linked to? If you use it, you get something like this:
 * Then I think you only have to add your vote under the "Support" header. 08:59, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Yep, I clicked on the link and went to the same page that said the same above. Thanks again, Q :) You're a real helper. --Palkia47 09:02, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 'k, I'm glad I could help :) 09:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 'k, I'm glad I could help :) 09:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Re: Sig
How do i shrink my Sig Images?

Is this sig ok?

It went out of the box a bit, But it's fine, isn't it?

Abigor
Hello, Time Q, since you are the main author of Club Nintendo related articles, could you take a look on the talk page of Abigor? If you want to answer my message here, please answer on this page, I'm not a fan of talk page hopping (though most people here do so). Oh, I hope my text won't get deleted because of the use of "questionable" words. ;-) --Grandy02 08:20, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Mario is Missing
Hey Time Q, im just wondering, is Daisy in MiM? has been removing everything about it, and I never played the game so I wouldn't know.
 * There is a person that does look a bit like Daisy, but she is never named in the game, and I doubt it's her. I can't tell for sure though. 07:46, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh ok.

Maria
Whassap. You mentioned that you figured out why Maria redirect to Mario? Why does it do that? 13:12, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Because Maria is listed as a name Mario is sometimes called :) 13:34, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Re: Removal of Vote
ok I understand that by removing Phailure's oppose vote mine would go out too since I just said "Per Phailure" but doesn't everybody's vote count (I kinda sound like I'm talking about the presidential [<--- Spelled right?] election :P)?
 * ok then sorry for bothering you ^^;

Hi
^ o ^ Hi Time Q!! ^___^ how are you?! ^___^
 * Thanks, I think I'm fine, and how are you? 15:31, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh! I'm fine n__n  thank you very much!! :D

Proposal Deadlines
On the ongoing proposal for World Merges, Stumpers agreed to extend the deadline from today. There is an idea that I have been considering for quite a while, but I came to calling it up on this occasion, and you seemed like the right guy to talk to about it. The Proposal page is used for all kinds of proposals, whether it be merging three articles to one, or changing an entire wiki policy. While there are many levels of importance to the results of these proposals, for some, 7 days may be too short. So, I was thinking that proposals that have a 2 votes or less difference between support and oppose could have an extension to the deadline. I was thinking anywhere from 3 days to 7 for the deadline. However, I realized that proposals with 6 voters total could cause many proposals to be delayed. So, I also thought about making a rule saying that each side(support and oppose) must have at least 7 votes; this would make it clear that enough users are concerned with the subject, and 1 or 2 votes could change everything. While I haven't decided on the numbers of days to extend, I have represented it as "X", and here is what I'm thinking:
 * If any proposal, at the time of the deadline, has at least 7 users that are supporting and 7 that are opposing, and the difference of the two is less than 2 votes, there can be an exception of the one week deadline rule. Under the said conditions, if a proposal is not settled, it can be extended for "X" days, thus delaying the deadline.

Please let me know of your feedback, and any changes you'd like to make to the rules, along with a possible number of extension days. Thanks.
 * Hi Garlic, thanks for turning to me with your idea :) I like it and thought about something similar too. Here's what I'm thinking: First, we should allow a deadline delay only once or twice for the same proposal. This is to avoid keeping a proposal for several months, which could theoretically happen. Second, I don't really have an idea about the "X". 7 days might be a bit long, what about 5? Third, "less than 2 votes" means only 0 and 1, not 2, right? We should decide on an exact number. "Two or less" (i.e. two, one, or none) seems the best option to me. 10:32, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, I had actually intended the delay to only work once(possibly twice?), and that should be the case. I also agree with 2 or less for the vote difference. 5 days extension seems about right, and would give plenty, but not too much time, for a proposal to be settled. Thanks for your opinions on this.

NSMB Article
Hello, Time Q. I was wondering what your opinions were on this now that it's complete? (Well, besides the fact that it needs some more images.) I know you were first to oppose it, so that's why I asked you. :) 16:42, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hi! It looks fine. (Still, I'd like separate articles better, but oh well. ;)) One thing I noticed is that you'd need to add separate "Star Coins" sections for every level, or none. The way it currently is looks a bit inconsistent. 17:05, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Okay, I think I can do that. Thanks for your input. 18:02, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

hello
Hi Time Q. Haven't spoke to you in a while. so how's everything? MC Hammer  Bro.  10:16, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, I'm fine, thanks. My studies have just begun again today, so I fear I will be quite busy in the next months. What about you? 10:32, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

just trying to get back into the habbit of editing often. studies huh... in what? MC Hammer  Bro.  15:18, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
 * In linguistics. Well, then good luck and have fun editing :) 15:42, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Hey Time Q, are you gonna be here for around 10 minutes or so?
 * Sorry, I'm not; I have to leave in a few minutes. Why are you asking? 02:03, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, ok. I was going to ask if you could delete the old revisions of images ive uploaded before, as you can see St00by already started and ended on Wigglers Watering Plant. But its ok, ill find someone else to do it =p

Categories
Hey Time Q, also has some other unneccasary categories on this page, also there appears to be one user category.
 * I removed those. Thanks! 14:38, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No, Thank you! :P

Article Organization Proposal Finally Up!
Sorry for the delay! Please vote! 12:22, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

Trivia
I was editing the Bowser article today to try to shorten the trivia, and I have a question: What determines if the trivia section is overlylong? Does it have to do with the # of characters, # of bullets, # of lines, or what?
 * Good question. Personally, I don't like this trivia template, because - if there's so much trivia about a topic, why shouldn't we write about it? You may want to ask Cobold, since he was the one to create the template (if I remember correctly). 02:46, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

Before I forget, I just wanted to say thanks for telling me who to ask. Yes Cobold was the one who created the template. When I asked him about it he said and I quote "Just any trivia section that appears to have way too much information. I didn't set up any strict rules for the template." I'm not sure whether or not I like the idea about a trivia template, but I do think that there should be a certain rule for it, like X amount of characters is too lengthy. Well whatever. I met my goal of shortening Bowser's trivia so I'm happy for now. Anyway, thanks again!
 * Cool, thanks for telling me about his answer too! I expected him to say that there are no strict rules. Well, if you feel there should be, you might want to make a proposal. I don't really have an opinion on this topic. 17:28, 1 November 2008 (EDT)

n_n
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Doopliss Met the Time Requirements, has >5 supports, 0 opposes
I'm not sure what all the steps are for featuring articles, as shameful as that is. So, what's the next step? For your convenience, here's a link. 18:57, 17 November 2008 (EST)