Talk:Mario Kart Wii

Daisy
Wasn't Daisy there?----

Good Lord, I hope not :P If she is, add her, although it may go against your conscience.

What are you talking about, Plumber? Anyway, Wikipedia didn't say Daisy was in the game. However, that might just be an error. I'll keep checking back. In the meantime, I won't put her on the page.

I haven't seen her either, and you know I'm a Daisy fan. I think we've pretty much got all the characters.

Plumber: .... DP: Wikipedia doesn't catch on to most info right away. That's why our SSBB article PWNs theirs. Overall answer: Don't add her until she is actually seen in a screenshot or mentioned. 23:05, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Lol, yeah, Plumbers statement was wierd. Anyway, like I said, do not add her until we see her in a screenshot, or Nintendo says she is in it. Also, our SSBB article is WAY better. MarioWiki pwns Wikipedia :P

"Excuse me princess", but plumber's a hatin' n00b. User:Fixitup

Logo
I found an image of the logo alone recently and decided to update the image we used for the logo. Then I uploaded a higher resolution image of Mario & Luigi playing the Wii (check the bottom of the article). My problem is that the logo isn't showing up in it's updated form, but rather it shows the low-resolution image of Mario and Luigi. Anyone know how to fix this? 08:28, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Yes. Ctrl+F5, or revisiting the website. This always happens when you upload newer versions of files. - 08:42, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Thanks! 14:17, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Baby Mario and Luigi
Man,I hate those two in this game,and I wish they didn't exist.
 * But think of it this way. Nintendo tends to balance out the distribution of lightweight and heavyweight characters.  The inclusion of the babies could indicate the inclusion of two very cool heavyweights.  You never know.  Yeah, yeah... I know it'll probably just be Petey Piranha and King Boo, but whatever.

Just a reminder, post stuff like this on the forum, not talk pages. -- Sir Grodus

Boo
Why do people keep on adding Boo to the playable character list? That might as well have been King Boo! I am sure that Boo will stay as an item, it wouldnt make any sence if they replaced the almighty King Boo with just a simple Boo as a playable character...
 * Why don't we post a "Boo/King Boo" in its place?
 * I hate Wikipedia. They are the main target for vandalism, which does terrors for us. They still haven't removed Boo nor King Boo yet, so, I suppose they are both true. Why must people vandalize :(
 * There's no crown. So its definitely a normal Boo. So either Boo isnt an item anymore, or King Boo takes over the role of item.--310898920470920674988d.gif 18:19, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
 * There's no crown. So its definitely a normal Boo. So either Boo isnt an item anymore, or King Boo takes over the role of item.--310898920470920674988d.gif 18:19, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

Wario's Mines
I was just wondering where we got the name for this course. I'm not saying that someone just made it up, but I've seen that happen before, so I'm just double checking! (please don't be mad!)

Baby Luigi?
How do we know he's in the game?


 * Baby Luigi has been on the Wikipedia list for about a Month now, probably longer, actually. That's how I know, at least.

I wonder how they know he's in the game?

Waluigi And Wario
Waluigi's and Wario's kart look almost the same, unless waluigis in warios kart.

nope. Waluigi's has that wierd "L" on it.

That is most likely Waluigi in Wario's kart, because the only difference is the Emblem, which is probably using the Emblem system like in MKDS...

I dont know
This game looks great but something tells me it is going to get low score.


 * Use the forum for statements like this, please. Talk pages are for discussion about the article, not the game itself.

Baby Luigi
Is baby Luigi confirmed for this game, because he is in the list of playable characters. Javier12345 Yes, there were new screenshots that showed him. User:Fixitup

Baby Mario Meadows
Can someone tell me what grounds the conjecture was made on? If it's just personal opinion, it should be changed to something like, "Unnamed Farm Course". 01:30, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Someone can tell me where did you find Luigi circuit and Dk pass within reappearing courses?
 * Don't know how long ago you posted that, but I believe I found those in the first video, shown at e3 2007. Sorry if I came across as rude, Coin.  21:57, 30 October 2007 (EDT)


 * Don't worry Stumpers, I saw the proof at some websites, altought they could be beta screens, who knows? the game is so far from being revealed keep with the work.

Mario Circuit and the "Unnamed town"
Look closely at the pictures of Mario Circuit and the unnamed town. They are closely the same, which leads me to believe that the "unnamed town" is just anothe part of Mario Circuit. King Boo, you're a Mario Kart Wii

About the old tracks in MKW...
Isn't there a link, a video, images or something where you can confirm the old tracks in the game or new tracks like Baby Luigi's track?

Some old courses will appear, and as many of them have been seen trough screenshots, someone can consider that all of former tracks will appear (or perhaps some known classic tracks seen in Mario Kart DS), however, we need more information to check it out. That baby luigi's course is a false info, who is putting that? I need a proof, and that is its source.

Deleted Tracks
There were nearly twenty reappearing courses that were posted a few weeks ago, including Donut Plains 1 and Mario Circuit 1, but nearly half of them were deleted a few days later. Does anyone know why?


 * I honestly have no idea, but it usually has to do with lack of proof when a game hasn't been released. If you have proof that those courses are in there, please post it along with a re-post of the deleted articles.  Generally, if you've found something that wasn't in a mainstream source (IGN.com, Nintendo.com) you'll want to site it to save yourself a headache later.  23:23, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Koopalings?
Ok, a few weeks ago it said the Koopalings were in it, it also said that dry bones and daisy and goomba were in it? Who said that stuff!

Whom even put should show some soures but I think it might be a rumor. (Koopaling in Mario Kart wii I doubt it!) But there a chance for Daisy to appear and maybe Dry bones (Boo partner is Dry bones so maybe....) Princess Grapes Butterfly 16:27, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Release Date
is that releasing date on NA confirmed? it doesn't note a reference or source on it. maybe that's not true then... (by the way, wikipedia puts the releasing date as March 15 -although this neither shows a source or reference on it-).

On wikipedia they changed it back to April 30. I just checked (Is it true that the Mii is playable?) Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:59, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Shroom Ridge?
OK, I've clicked on the link (reference 5, ) and I think I've seen a track that looks like Shroom Bridge (middle picture in 2nd row of the screenshot gallery)! What do you think? --PaperStriker 04:24, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Duplicate Images
I see that we have some problems about duplicate images, specialley these images...

The first row shows original pics already uploaded...

Then, I suggest that some duplicate images must be deleted and others kept...


 * I suggest about deleting these images...


 * Image:Lightning.jpg
 * Image:MKwii Blooper.jpg
 * Image:MKwii Bulletbill.jpg
 * Image:Mushroommkwii.jpg

Here's my image policy. Fixitup
 * 1. If it's character art, use it only once on the same page.
 * 2. If you find a good image, save it as PNG, NOT jpg.
 * 3. Editing site logos out is easy and quick.
 * 4. If an existing image is a different file type, and you have a better version, upload the better image and replace the previous one.
 * 5. If item artwork is reused for a game, it is ok to display it, character artwork however, is not ok.
 * 6. Even if a screenshot is GOOD it can be low-quality, therefore replace it if possible.


 * OK, but I think already did that. anyway, thanks for those points :)
 * Please only delete the Mario Kart Wii ones. The others are being used in one/two different articles.  If you do that, then you can put the image that is already on two articles into MKW, the third article.  It will be easier that way.  21:18, 21 February 2008 (EST)


 * OK, OK don't worry, I already did this, I've decided keep some MKWii-titled images, because they have a good quality as they could stay here. besides, the deletion list is over there, before my second signature

New Wi-fi Information
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2007/going_global_with_mario_kart_wii__7448.html

Wi-fi information, including online rankings!

Rosalina!
I need a source or a pix to see if she really playable! Princess Grapes Butterfly 11:36, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

She is not confirmed to be playable, sorry. Toad allstar

Noki
What is this trash about noki? is this true, is she really in the game, i need sources! --Blue Koop 19:26, 18 March 2008 (EDT)!

Doubt its true, BK. . Noki is kinda neglected...

Birdo?
Is Birdo confirmed? I don't think so, because she's a lightweight in the article, although Yoshi's a middleweight. Could peolpe stop vandalizing the article? Can the article be protected, like Wikipedia? --PaperStriker 06:39, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

Not handy if a normal user like me would adding something that is officially seen/confirmed.

Respuesta_ Pues claro que si va a salir Baby Birdo yo tengo varias imagenes donde se ven Mario,Luigi,etc y ademas se ven Daisy,Baby Birdo,Baby Yoshi,Birdo y Koppa Paratroppa pero no se como ponerles esas imagenes aqui en esta pagina y creanme que si son verdaderas please como las pongo
 * Por favor, dimos el URL a los pinturas. 19:14, 19 March 2008 (EDT) (did that make sense?)

Stumpers tu abla spanish?! Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:18, 23 March 2008 (EDT)


 * O nos puedes dar er "link"/"url" del lugar de donde tienes esa foto. O nos puedes decir el sitio.


 * Ingles:English: Can't be protected yet. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif
 * Well, I have no idea what's going on. Birdoshi just claimed to have a link (if my Spanish doesn't stink), but now I'm being asked to show the link.  What's going on?  19:37, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

I have no idea what that spanish or whatever thing said, but I agree this should be protected. Which genius put Baby Birdo (WTF) Baby Yoshi (...) and Baby Luigi (Thats the only plausable one) in the section when there are NO SOURCES. Nor are there for the paratroopa, IIRC. I maybe wrong, so I'm asking BEFORE I make a possibly-contriversial edit. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions? ·

Answer    -hears if you do not understand the person to him who writes in Spanish because I recommend you that you see Dora the Explorer jaja and soon they say that those that speak in english they are very intelligent jajaja watches you cannot nor read what this in then Spanish who is the donkey the Spanish or your that you do not know what the one says because that I answer to him the Spanish is definitively the donkey your gringo

Didddy :)
i saw the video that he was in nut how do you know he is medium wieght?  Blue  Koop C

2 more tracks
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other tracks

Moomview Highway

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=95123&page=1

Koopa Cape

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=185273

Above artcle confirms 18 characters

Actully it confirms 18 unlockable charactors --Blue Koop 13:55, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

In the link to Moomview Highway new versions of Bowser's Caslte and Rainbow Road are confirmed, which makes a total of 12 confirmed tracks. Also, I've seen Shroom Ridge on a screen shot (as retro track). I don't think there'll be 18 unlockables. But first I should read the article, lol. :) --PaperStriker 20:08, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

The first link also confirmed the Special Cup and Moomview Highway, Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road are in it. --PaperStriker 12:08, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

18 total charactors?
are there 30 total charactors or 18???

18, JeuxFrance showed a video showing the select screen and it had 5 ?'s, he had 13 characters (the 12 starting characters + Diddy Kong) thus confirming 18 characters/6 unlockables.

what
The page is just missing and it said yes, my brother did it, i thought he was blocked --Blue Koop 09:42, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Secret Characters?
How do we know Daisy and Diddy will be in this game?

well i saw them in a couple trailers, i don't have the sources though, someone else might but how do we know there weights?

Japanese Official Site, but if you don't have sources, I don't belive you, you may be lying..... But probaly not! Can you PLEASE try to find the sources.....

I'll try  Blue  Koop C

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/949/949580/vids_1.html

this might be one of them  Blue  Koop C

Daisy is in the IGN Flower Cup video on the map (Youtube has low quality, go to IGN itself), and Diddy was seen in the character selection in a video of JeuxFrance. Don't have links.

Weight-class karts and bikes
I've read on the GameFAQs Message Board of MKW that the karts and bikes will be divided into weight classes, that means everyone in the same weightclass shares his/her karts and bikes with the others of the same weight class. --PaperStriker 12:11, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Birdo y Toadette?
Y donde quedaron Birdo y Toadette? Al parecer se estan olvidando de ellas ya que no las pusieron como playable characters en : Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games tambien en: Super Smash Bros Brawl, de hecho en este juego no salieron ni de assist trophies solamente salieron de simples trofeos que ni sirven para nada esos trofeos  -  nosotros queremos usarlas como playable characeters jugar con ellas pero no no las ponen y ahora me encuentro con que en Mario Kart Wii empiezas con 12 characters y solamente sacas otros 6 characeters esas son chingaderas y por si fuera poco no se han visto entre esos 6 characters la Birdo y la Toadette que son personajes clave en los juegos de Mario ya que ellas han salido en bastantes juegos de Mario y ya ahorita ellas deberian ser como Daisy que siempre la ponen bueno no es justo que solamente pongan a Daisy en Mario Kart Wii tambien queremos que pongan a Birdo y a Toadette  todas parejas para que asi esten  Peach   Daisy    Birdo    y   Toadette  las 4 juntas como deberia ser siempre en todos los juegos de Mario pero eso es lo que Nintendo no quiere entender   ya que hacen unos juegos bien divertidos y nosotros solamente estamos esperando a que salga el juego para comprarlo y jugarlo y luego con lo que salen  QUE NO PONEN A BIRDO Y TOADETTE  y luego la larga espera de que nos sirvio  de que nos sirvio estar  pensando en el juego de que como se jugaria y de como seria y luego para que te enteres de que no salen Birdo y Toadette o tu personaje favorito  en el dichoso juego pues logico que te enojas y te decepcionas una vez mas de Nintendo y acabas por no comprar el juego esa es la verdad Si van a hacer un juego haganlo bien y pongan a los personajes basicos que son Mario  Luigi  Wario  Waluigi  Peach  Daisy  Yoshi  Birdo  Toad  Toadette  Boo  y  Dry Bones esos son los personajes que no deben faltar en cualquier juego de Mario ya que son muy importantes y cada uno de ellos y ellas tiene millones de fans asi que ahora espero que les haya quedaddo entendido que al no poner a un personaje decepcionan a millones de fans y se que solo es un detalle lo del personaje pero ese detalle determina si se venda mucho el juego o no ahora espero que reflexionen sobre esto y ahora si pongan a Birdo y a Todette en Mario Krt Wii ya que todavia se pueden agregar por que todavia no ha salido y si es por eso pueden retrasarlo unas semanas mas   total si  nos esperamos mucho tiempo en que saliera Super Smash Bros Brawl por que no podemos esperarnos unas semanas mas para jugar Mario Kart Wii total la espera tiene sus recompensas y no como otros juegos que por hacerlo rapido al final cuando lo estan jugando en sus casas dicen a etaria bien padre el juego si pasara esto o si saliera un personaje y asi se queda el juego asi que mejor hagan los juegos con calma y no se apresuren por que todos se pueden esperar un poco mas digo ahi tienen mas juegos con que entretenerse mientras esperan el juego nuevo.

In English:

And where they were left Birdo and Toadette? Apparently they forget them since they did not put like playable characters in: Mario & Sonic AT The Olympic Games also in: Super Smash Bros Brawl, in fact in this game did not leave nor assist trophies only left simple trophies that nor are used for anything those trophies - we want to use them as playable characeters to play with them but does not put you and now I am whereupon in Mario Kart Wii you begin with 12 characters and only other 6 extractions characeters that are a stupidity and to top it all have not seen between those 6 characters the Birdo and the Toadette that is characters key in the games of Mario since they have left in enough games of Mario and or right now they must be like Daisy that always puts it good is not right that they only put to Daisy in Mario Kart Wii also we want that they put to Birdo and to Toadette all pairs so that they are Peach Daisy Birdo and Toadette the 4 meetings as it always must of being in all the games of Mario but that are what Nintendo does not want to understand since they match affluent amused and we are only hoping to that he leaves the game to buy it and to play it soon and with which they leave THAT THEY SOON DO NOT PUT To BIRDO and TOADETTE and the long delay as which serves to us as which it serves to us to be thinking about the game that as gambled and of like sera and soon so that you find out that Birdo and Toadette do not leave or your character favorite in the happy then then game you get angry and you are disappointed once again of Nintendo and you finish not buying the game that is the truth If they are going to match is necessary to make sure that this good and this complete one and put to characters that they cannot lack that they are Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi Peach Daisy Yoshi Birdo Toad Toadette Boo and Dry Bones those are characters that do not have to lack in any game of Mario since they are very important and each one of them and they has million of fans asi that now I hope that to them it has been understood that when not putting to to character they disappoint to million of fans and that single the one of character is a detail but that detail determines if much is sold the game or but now I hope that they reflect on this and now if they put to Birdo and to Todette in Mario Kart Wii since if it reaches the time to be able to add them so that it has not even left the game and if it is for that reason they can delay it weeks but total if we were expected long time in that Super Smash Bros Brawl left so that we cannot wait for weeks to us but to play Mario Kart total Wii the delay has his you compensate and not like other games that to make it in the end fast when they estan playing in its houses say that there was been or father the game if it passed this or if it left to character and asi the game is had left asi that better the games with calm do and they do not hurry so that all can be waited for a little but I say ahi have but games whereupon to entertain itself while they wait for the new game.
 * Is this related to the article in any way? - 19:42, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Is not necessary that supporting characters (birdo, toadette, dry bones, or somebody else) don't have to get in the game, so, don't write something that, unless it's factible -

Respuesta: Para tu informacion Birdo y Toadette si son muy importantes en los juegos de Mario y no se a veces no las ponen yo no se se les olvidara ponerlas o que se yo pero si se que deberian ponerlas y las cosas que puse son ciertas pero bueno ya no voy a poner cosas asi en la pagina de discusion de Mario Kart Wii que de hecho si puedo escribir eso por que es una pagina de discusion daaaa pero ya mejor ya no escribo eso para que te calles la boca coincollector y descanses tus lindos dedos de seguirme contestando ok


 * Se bueno con Coinollector. No podemos agregar la informacion de que Birdo y Toadette estan en el juego asta que tengamos prueba. Tienes una prueba de que estan en el juego? Como una foto? http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif

Respuesta: La verdad no tengo ninguna imagen que confirme a las 2 (Birdo y Toadette)en Mario Kart Wii, bueno tengo una imagen de Baby Birdo pero ya la pense y no creo que sea real aunque se ve muy bonilla la imagen y bien trabajada pero no creo que sea verdad y no se como poner un link o algo parecido para que la veas bueno el caso es que puse lo de Birdo y Toadette por que queria que ustedes le dijieran a las personas de Nintendo que estan trabajando en Mario Kart Wii que pusieran a Birdo y a Toadette como playable characters en Mario Kart Wii pues yo pense eso por toda la informacion que tienen en esta pagina (Super Mario Wiki) y todas las cosas acerca de los juegos, personajes, y como se supieron la informacion de personajes y todo eso de Super Smash Bros Brawl antes que la de Smash Bros Dojo! y toda es cierta pues pense : esta es una pagina buena y ha de tener alguna relacion con Nintendo porque como para tener toda esa informacion de Mario Kart Wii, Smash, Stadium Baseball, entre otros antes de que otra pagina entonces Nintendo les ha de dar la informacion,entonces puse lo de Birdo y Toadette por que queria que ustedes le dijieran a Nintendo que pusieran a Birdo y a Toadette como playable characters en Mario Kart Wii  entonces Nintendo les pasa la informacion y la pagina es buena  o es como cualquier otra pagina y la informacion de donde la sacan que o que pasa aqui responde Paper Jorge

Para tu información, toda la información que sacamos de esto es a partir de varias páginas web que hablan de esto. usamos ésas páginas de internet como fuente de información o referencias para desarrollar los artículos que hay en este wiki. Ojalá que tuviéramos un vínculo o un acuerdo con la Nintendo, pero la verdad no tenemos nada que ver con respecto a la compañía.


 * Eso es cierto. Nintendo solo da la informacion por su pagina web o las revistas de Nintendo. Y Nintendo todavia no a confirmado ni a Baby Birdo, Birdo o a Toadette. No savemos si estan en el juego o no asi de que no podemos poner la informacion asta que estemos seguros. En que sitio esta la imagen de Baby Birdo? http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)

&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif

Hey Paper Jorge ya te dije que la imagen de Baby Birdo la tengo yo en la carpeta mis imagenes por que la vi en un sitio y me gusto la imagen y le pulse al boton (Imp Pan) luego puse paint y le puse pegar y guarde la imagen  y el sitio donde estaba se me olvido como se llamaba pues como ese dia visite muchisimos sitios ya ni me acuerdo y luego ese dia borre el historial porque era un monton de paginas y era un revoltijo asi que borre el historial y nadams tengo la imagen y no tengo el link o algo parecido.


 * Dun talk Spanish, I don't understand anything. :( Anyway, from the translation: "characters that they cannot lack that they are Mario Luigi Wario Waluigi Peach Daisy Yoshi Birdo Toad Toadette Boo and Dry Bones those are characters that do not have to lack in any game of Mario since they are very important and each one of them and they has million of fans". Neither Bowser nor DK are included in this list, because the listed characters are the characters that appear in MP7. I don't think (though I hope) Toadette and Birdo are included and that fanon text doesn't make it more likely.


 * Mira PaperStriker se me olvido poner a Donkey Kong y a Bowser pero es obvio que tambien tienen muchos fans al igual que todos los personajes de Mario y respecto a que esos personajes solo aparecen en Mario Party 7 es una mentira muy grande ya que tambien salen en Mario Superstar Baseball,Mario Party 8, Super Mario Strikers Charged,Mario Super Stadium Bseball, Mario Kart Double Dash,y en fin en muchos otros mas y ojala y que Mario Kart Wii sea como Mario Kart Double Dash y que tenga todos los personajes de Mario Kart Double Dash mas Dry Bones y uno que otro nuevo y para que entiendas el español ponte a ver el programa de    Dora La Exploradora te aseguro que con ella y su amigo el chango aprenderas el idioma español aunque eso te va a llevar tiempo pero de todas formas te repito lo anterior en tu idioma el ingles.

PaperStriker sight I forget to me to put to Donkey Kong and Bowser but it is obvious that also they have many fans like all characters of single Mario and with respect to which those characters appear in Mario Party 7 is a very great lie since also they leave in Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Party 8, Super Mario Strikers Charged, Super Mario Stadium Bseball, Mario Kart Double Dash, and in aim in many other but and desire that Mario Kart Wii is like Mario Kart Double Dash and that has all characters of Mario Kart Double Dash but Dry Bones and one that another new one and so that you understand the Spanish I recommend to see to you Dora the explorer. I assure to you that with her and its friend the monkey you are going to learn the Spanish language although that is going to take time to you but in any case already I said to the answer in your language english to you. hey brother you are not created the one of Dora the Explorer single joked sorry

babe birdo
was baby birdo a fluke or april fools joke??? or what, there WAS a image of her.
 * It's false, the image was altered as if she were another character... :| but looks like pretty real though.

Your wright, it does look real, but i read somewhere it was based off her mp8 look --Blue Koop 21:27, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Koopa Cape and Daisy Pier
What do you think about this image? Left one is from Koopa Cape, right one fron Daisy Pier (Daisy's circuit) Should we add some info. about them?

Where did you find this? (and specially, those names) then, you can put here.
 * Koopa Cape was confirmed above in a review (along with Moomview Highway, Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road). --PaperStriker 06:01, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Toadette
If you go to this site and start playing the 2nd video you can see on 1:05 to 1:08 Toadette in the last place on the map. You can also see the Daisy and Koopa tracks and a Wiggler course in this video.

Are you sure that was Toadette???

I'm very sure. Who do you think it is? I can't see an other character in it.


 * OK, Toadette is confirmed. But are the others (like Birdo, Toadsworth, etc.) in the article confirmed, too?

Shroom Ridge deleted?
Um, who has deleted Shroom Ridge from the Retro track list? In citaion 8, 2nd picture, 2nd row in the gallery, you can see something that looks extremely similar to Shroom Ridge. It has the same street and the same walls, both are rather unique to this course, so it's clearly Shroom Ridge. Any comments? --PaperStriker 06:18, 28 March 2008 (EDT)