MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split Electro-Koopa variants. (Discuss) Passed.
 * Make templates expire after 3 months. (Discuss) Deadline: November 14, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Delete Princess Peach's voice. (Discuss) Deadline: November 15, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Shroom Fry with Fried Shroom Plate. (Discuss) Deadline: November 16, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Gold Credit, Gold Card, and Golden Card. (Discuss) Deadline: November 23, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
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New features
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Removals
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Names in Other Languages organization for Mario episodes
I've been getting a little tired of seeing the Latin American and Spanish names of Mario episodes in one row, like this:

The same goes for Portuguese names. This also counts for rows like this:

In case of that one, I would edit it in a way that makes it result in this:

So one of the decisions I made about it is to separate the Spanish/Portuguese language rows from one another, in a way that looks like this:

I already did this to most, if not all, of the Mario episode articles. But you can help contribute to this.

Proposer: Deadline: November 11, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) I support this, considering that I am the one who proposed this.

Oppose

 * 1) "NOA" and "NOE" are the wrong abbreviations to use, implying that Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe played a hand in the localization, and that's not true. The explanations in the section do their jobs well enough. If something like the Latin and Spain language differences are a problem, then we should change the templates themselves. The NOA and NOE parameters were created with the games in mind, and I simply don't think it's a good idea that we stretch it to include cartoon dubs.
 * 2) Per Bazooka Mario.
 * 3) Per Bazooka Mario.
 * 4) Per BM.
 * 5) Using "NOA" and "NOE" would be misleading, so per Bazooka Mario.
 * 6) Per Bazooka Mario.

Comments
But NOA stands for Nintendo of America and NOE stands for Nintendo of Europe,both which are localization and promotion branches for Nintendo. Are you sure they played a part in localizing languages outside of English (since the show is American)? 13:10, 4 November 2015 (EST)
 * Not at all, but I think it feels good because it also tells the language types apart. 18:32, 4 November 2015 (EST)
 * But that would be misleading, since it leads readers into thinking that the abbreviations are Nintendo of America/Europe localizations when in fact they're not. Also, an original dub is different from a redub and has nothing to do with the different localization branches of each Nintendo of country companies. 19:38, 4 November 2015 (EST)

Replace Remix with Remake on Level Articles
Ive been using this for all the Green Stars and stamps on my Mario 3D World, and I've noticed a lot of the World Mushroom/Flower levels have notes that say "a remix of Level X-Y: Z." For example, this article has a note that says "A remix of World 5-1: Sunshine Seaside." The thing is, dictionary.com says the definition of remix as a noun is "A remixed recording." Are levels recordings? No. Therefore, we are using it the wrong way. Because of this, I believe we should change all uses of remix (which will mostly be in 3D Land/World articles) to remake. If you have another idea for wording, let me know.

Proposer: Deadline: November 16, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) my proposal

Oppose

 * 1) Banning any word is way too strong, because there could always be a case where the word is applicable. Besides the fact that Wikipedia  uses the term rather loosely, what you're proposing would prevent articles from pointing out that, for example, the level's song is a remix of another song. The proposal would have to be modified to be less extreme before I would consider voting in support for it.
 * 2) Per Time Turner.
 * 3) Per Time Turner and Bazooka Mario's comments below.
 * 4) - "Remix" is inappropriate given how most readers will know it from the music usage and be perplexed by its use for a whole level (if not confused entirely), but "remake" would be less than ideal too since it's mainly used for entire games (or other media) being rebuilt from scratch to be very similar to the original. A level could be remade if it's in a completely different game but is otherwise the same level, I suppose, but if it's just reappearing in the same game with some alterations to be a different playing experience, that's not a remake in our usual sense of the word, and it'd be better to use non-jargon words without preexisting misusage baggage for that situation, like "variation" or maybe even "redesign" (in fact, in the example provided by the proposal, the line after the "remix" part already says "The level is a redesign of [the] original level.").
 * 5) I think Remix is fine. Per all.

Comments
I changed the terminology so that it is not "ban," but rather "replace with." 14:46, 9 November 2015 (EST)
 * That still doesn't account for the term being used in other circumstances.

I think the reasoning for this proposal is wrong all based on the denotation of "remix". Words are flexible and can be used outside its dictionary definition. Making a strict rule on that isn't really a good decision. That being said, I don't like "remix" being abused like this, so I suggest changing it to less vague and ambiguous terms like "variation", "alteration", "similar". Finally, just a side note: "remix" is more often than not used incorrectly not only in this wiki but even in professional games such as Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, which only aggravates the abuse of "remix". 15:40, 9 November 2015 (EST)

Miscellaneous
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