Talk:Blue Toad (character)

Blue Toad page
I created a Blue Toad page as seeing other species members like the colored yoshis having their own pages. Seeing as he is also a hero in the new game, NSMB Wii I think he should get a page. I will add more later. Pichufan93

Actually you're right. However, it's always a better idea to add all the info at once rather than "do it later".-- 18:03, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

Sorry about that, I was kind of busy too. Pichufan93

Yellow Toad
What about the yellow toad? Will he get a page???

Yes! I will make him one too over the weekend (time)! he needs a good solo pic too :( Edit: I made him one now. Pichufan93

Blue and Yellow Toad's Nicknames
http://www.destructoid.com/nsmb-wii-release-bash-bucken-berry-and-ala-gold--155242.phtml

According to the article, the nicknames of the Blue Toad and the Yellow Toad, given to them by the development team, are Bucken-Berry and Ala-Gold.

...No comment. - Smashgoom202 22:51, 18 November 2009 (EST)
 * The article's author asked an unspecified Nintendo rep (not Miyamoto or another developer) who didn't really know about the tournament, but otherwise knew "a lot of stuff." The rep told about nicknames supposedly used by the Japanese developers and whispered two names that don't sound typical for Kinopio at all. At the end, the author even humourously writes "I don't know if this guy knows what he's talking about or not, but I don't care". I can't take this seriously unless one of the developers confirms it in an interview or something. It could just be a joke made by the rep. --Grandy02 12:45, 8 January 2010 (EST)

"Blue Toad" or "Blue Toads"?
Are we to assume that every instance a blue-color schemed Toad has been featured in a Mario game, it's the same one? That seems like a lot of speculation to me. Redstar 18:06, 25 November 2009 (EST)

Well he shares a lot of similarities and usually in the main story games, there is usually one blue toad and numerous red toads (the spinnoffs usually have large numbers of them). I think it's best to leave him as he is for now seeing as there is a toad species article to relate to. It also seems likely he is the same as he is often seen with the other 4 toads in most of his appearences. User:Pichufan93

Split and Merge Article
It cannot be assumed that just because a particular Toad is wearing blue, that every Toad wearing blue is the same individual. Prior to NSMBW, yblue Toads were simply generic background characters and had no real personality. Even the only personality-trait of the Super Mario Galaxy Blue Toad, of wearing glasses, is not found in this new Toad. This all suggests that they are different Toads that simply share a choice in clothing color. As it stands now, this article covers every appearance of a blue Toad, regardless of whether they may be the same Toad or not. The article also covers blue Toads "as a species", which is far too distinct a subject to cover on the same page; not to mention the different-colored Yoshi aren't considered different species, just variety.

What this proposal hopes to achieve is to split off and merge all relevant information to the correct articles to create more comprehensive and specialized topics. Information to be merged are as follows:


 * Blue Toads in a group, such as in Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy to be merged into the Toad Brigade article.
 * Blue Toads "as a species" to be merged into the Toad (species) article. Assuming different coloration is indicative of separate species is too speculative for this wiki, as well as largely-disproven due to indication of vest and cap as articles of clothing in most media. This standard is also followed for Yoshi (species), wherein differently-colored Yoshi are not considered separate species, but just variety.
 * The blue Toad of NSMBW into a new article, covering only that particular Toad. His singular nature, differing personality, and lack of a group suggests he is a new character. Suggested article names are his development name, "Boppen Berry", or simply "Blue Toad (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)".

Split and merge article into relevant pages

 * 1) - Per proposal.
 * 2) - Speculation to assume they're all the same. Per proposal

Blue Toad (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)

 * 1) There are surely more development nicknames for various things in the games, but they aren't official. And even if "Bucken-Berry" was official, it would be a Japanese name (since the developers are Japanese), and we already have an English one, Blue Toad. The author of the Destructiod article even humourously wrote "I don't know if this guy knows what he's talking about or not, but I don't care", and personally, I also have my doubts if the Japanese developers would call a Kinopio "Bucken-Berry."

Comments
Isn't it Bucken-Berry? Not Boppen-berry
 * You're right, actually. Redstar 19:31, 24 December 2009 (EST)

Split Blue Toad into Toad (species) and Bucken-Berry
Per the above section.

Proposer: Deadline: 13 February 2010

Split

 * 1) Per proposal.