MarioWiki:Proposals

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Remove the eleventh featured article/list standard
"11. [An article must] be of reasonable length and not marked as a stub."

This is the eleventh and final standard that must be followed for featured articles and featured lists, as described on Featured articles, and it is completely unnecessary. For starters, it is too vague to be of any practical use, and it would be difficult to use our current featured articles for comparison since they have wildly different sizes. Mt. Teapot, Mystic Forest, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, and Mario Sports Superstars clearly all have different lengths, and yet they're all featured articles. If we tried to be strict and set a minimum character count or word count, then we're only going to promote articles that have been stretched and padded out solely to meet the minimum count. Needless to say, that is bad. With that in mind, why should we look at the length of an article to judge its quality? There are plenty of articles that are long, but they haven't been featured because they're missing information or their writing isn't good or their images are blurry or they have an improvement tag or for a myriad of other reasons based directly on the article's content, all of which are already covered by the other featured article standards. An article's length has next to nothing to do with its content and quality, so why should it be used to judge articles that, and I quote, "represent the best the Super Mario Wiki has to offer"?

Finally, there's already a proposal that discusses lowering the size requirement for featured articles (which was also my original idea apparently although I genuinely don't remember it), and it passed. Since the proposal was four years ago, it's hard to see how much of it is still in effect today, but my proposal clearly hasn't come from nowhere, and this is to say nothing of the recent forum post and the replies therein that inspired me to make this proposal. Simply put, the eleventh standard is too vague to be useful and is redundant with the other standards, and that is why I want it to be removed.

Proposer: Deadline: June 11, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) - Per proposal.
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per proposal.
 * 6) Sure. Per all.
 * 7) While I do agree that the rule is too vague, it might be better to indicate where to draw the line. Other than that, I'm fine with the rule being removed.
 * 8) This rule really has no purpose.  Featured articles are about quality, not length.  If a stub is a good article, it should still be featured.  There is absolutely no reason why this rule should not be removed.  Additionally, if there is a proposal that passed for this 4 years ago, then this proposal doesn't need to be here.  Remove the rule, end of story.

Oppose

 * 1) The purpose of the Featured Articles system is to be applied to the best articles on the wiki. There are many articles that are very well-written and that meet all the requirements, but shouldn't be featured because they are very short and therefore cannot be the best articles on the wiki. I think an article needs to be long enough to be featured, but there should not be a specific number of bytes because articles vary due to images, tables, etc. and reasonable length can vary between different types of articles. I support 's page. I agree that the rule should be changed but not removed.

Comments
So, to confirm, articles of any size would be able to become featured as long as they meet the other ten requirements, right? -- 21:46, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
 * I'll agree with Steve on this point. 22:00, 3 June 2017 (EDT)

@YoshiFlutterJump: The proposal linked to is referring to decreasing the the size an article needs to be to become an Featured Article, not about removing the rule, so this proposal still is necessary in order to remove the rule. Also, stubs cannot become featured articles, as a featured article cannot be tagged with any sort of improvement tags, which includes. -- 14:35, 4 June 2017 (EDT)

@Supermariofan67: Why can't a short article be the best? If it follows all of the other standards to a T, I frankly don't see why the content should be outright ignored. What about its length says anything about the article itself? 16:27, 4 June 2017 (EDT)

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