MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 25

New Mario game in the E3
I've seen that Nintendo will probably make a new Mario game (including a New TLOZelda and a Wii Fit sequel) found here. The possible new games will be shown in the E3 of june. It could be just a speculation, but the Wii Fit sequel has been confirmed by now.
 * Its not very explicative... But its good

#mw-shroom
It cant be accessed in the MW Applet or any other chat devide except Mibbit. Can someone fix this?

Actual research on Mario gravity physics
Well, this is funny. I just found out an article about the Mario gravity physics back in Kotaku, grabbing a few resources for me to utilize fully. ...This is when I stumbled upon this. :O Here's the link. Acceleration Due to Gravity: Super Mario Brothers

Any comments would be welcome here. :o When the wiki's that lazy, I bet this section would not likely be removed. ;o
 * I wonder how people have time for that. - Consider all the different gravity elements in Super Mario Galaxy. Some of them make Mario jump even higher than before to simulate "low gravity". - 07:36, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

interesting..... I wonder the gravity compared to our own. &#91;&#91;Lu-igi board]] 11:50, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

@Cobold: As far as I know, such things are usually made by intellectual people for (pseudo)science fun, it isn't to be taken really seriously. ;-) Like the German Donaldist (Donald Duck researcher) who created the map of Duckburg within 13 years (German article), or the Donaldism in general. --Grandy02 12:02, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
 * I know it's just for fun. I remember reading a German book about how Donald Duck should be rated 18 because of all the crimes being committed in the comic books. They took a quite judicial approach on that, and the Mario "scientific research" of the gravity sounds exactly like that. - 12:19, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

Suggestions
I'm not even much of a active member here, so not really my place to make suggestions. But nonetheless...

1) Most wikis (including the one that I'm an admin of) have their main page protected. Because, during a vandal strike the main page is usually a target. So, unless someone has already protected this one, it would be a good idea to do so. 2) Also, have you ever considered a bot to welcome new users? 17:11, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

Our main page is protected. And a bot isn't a real person. When a real person welcomes another user, it means more than when a bot does it. Yoshario'''

Problems with the site?
Has anyone else been getting a database error message? 09MurphyM 14:35, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
 * Sometimes the server goes down, but eventually, it fixes itself. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Rename Pages
Um, how do you rename a page already created? Can only sysops and above do that? Cause once some new Mario games come out, I want to change the Japaneese names to their English names.


 * You click the "move" tab next to the "history" tab. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

10,000th User
Congratulations to for registering an account here for the 10,000th time at 10:26p (EDT) on June 16th, 2009! :D 02:23, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Move question
Well, first, CONGRATS TO OUR 10,000th USER!! an next, my question. If a chat channel is moved, is its stuff also moved? (access list, GameServ, preferences, etc)

Polls and images
Why Does it take so long for a new poll/featured image to be put on? A new one appears like, every two weeks not one. 29 June 2009
 * The sysops are not on a regular schedule yet/any more. If we would set a day of the week to update the front page, we could update it more consistently. - 17:22, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Featured Quote

 * Whare is the featured quote about, how do you Nominate a quote?     User:Mario freak
 * It's random. --Glowsquid 12:03, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Template:Announcement
Can anyone add to this template that the Shroom is having a Feedback Survey? Thanks :)

Super Smash Bros. N64 Beta
I bring up this issue here because it affects several pages and no one has cleared it up since ages. According to the article Super Smash Bros., several characters such as Peach and Bowser were planned for the game, but got cut for different reasons. However, there is no reliable source that would confirm that (it came from SmashWiki, but they don't cite their sources, either). Furthermore, Beta Elements claims the same, plus that Final Smashes were planned and that Masahiro Sakurai "has recordings of the character's voices during their Final Smash." In related sections, articles such as Bowser and Pit also claim that they were supposed to appear in the first Smash Bros. (along with a "citation needed" tag). Since no user has added citations since months, I suggest to just remove these parts as long as nobody has found a reliable source. --Grandy02 13:30, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
 * The final smashes being planned for the original Smash Bros., along with the recorded voices, was as far as I recall it mentioned in Iwata Asks: SSBB. - 09:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Okay, thanks. On the characters, a reference has been added, it's a list of poll results from the Japanese Smash Bros. site, along with some side notes. The latter one indeed tell that Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo were planned. But not Peach, Pit and Meowth. Well, I don't know Japanese so I can also say what the bad English of the online translator told me. Could somebody check, please? --Grandy02 12:58, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

Weekly Polls
The Administrative staff of the Super Mario Wiki have decided that the Weekly Polls will no longer be voted on by users. There's just way too much chaos on the Poll Selection page between duplicated poll suggestions, coding errors, biased votes, and getting a bunch of proposals that were intended to improve the polls, but never did anything. Besides, we've been getting too much focus on the polls instead of the actual wiki. We want our new members to contribute to our wiki by adding information to our articles, creating categories, etc. The overall process is just a total mess the way it is now.

Thus, every week, a new poll will be posted on the Main Page by me. 14:52, 14 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Stooby: can you erase the Poll selection link from the main page?? THanks :)
 * Done. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * thx :) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  16:01, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Could users have a preview of what's to come?

What do you mean when you say "what's to come?". Can you be more specific? Yoshario'''
 * Like Stooben Rooben could put a section on his page:"Next Week's Poll" or something like that, oh ya, can you block Stupid Mari0? (I know you can but will you please?)
 * Maybe, you'll have to ask him. And "Stupid Mario0" is a perfectly acceptable username. If it were to contain an expletive or an offensive/discriminatory statement, then it would be unacceptable. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * You know what, disregard my statement on SM, I'll go welcome him! I'll contact Stooben in a couple mintues
 * Is this decision permanent, because we have about a year or two's supply of polls. What will happen when we run out of polls to use after those two years? 10:53, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Mario & Nintendo News header
Can the background be "#099" (Turquoise) cause we already have a blue header for FA. It just has always bothered me that its not a unique color like red, green, or yellow. -- 18:59, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Something wrong with the forums.
Everytime I try and go to the forums, it says

"Sorry ugozima, you are banned from using this forum! Rudnicki"

Has Rudnicki haxx0red the forums? Ugozima 01:37, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * i can get on, dunno. mabey you did something -- 02:03, 18 July 2009 (EDT)


 * No, I didn't do anything. I always follow the rules. (Except mindless junk)

Wait, WARIOLOAF?!? WARIOLOAF!?! I read that you were one of Rudnicki's socks. Ugozima 02:13, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * WTF? I've been here since almost the beginning of the wiki. I aint no sock >:| -- 02:21, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

Never mind, it was someother Warioword guy. I think it was WarioWaft or something. Yeah, still says banned. Ugozima 03:38, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, that staement sounded a bit off to me. If I'm correct, he made the Fake News (that's what it says on Userpedia). 09:46, 18 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Its true I did -- 12:08, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

Try logging in now, Ugozima. 20:30, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

Thanks. Ugozima 00:28, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

'Shroom sign-up
I recently signed up for the 'Shroom. Does anyone think that this would be a good idea for an article?: Ask Doopliss - Anyone can leave a question about a game on my talk page and I will answer them in an article for the 'Shroom. (Games applicable are listed on my Userpage.) -
 * Ask this guy (which, if I'm correct, you already did). If he does not respond, go ahead and ask this guy right here. He probably won't respond within the next week, he is going on vacation (or something to that extent) until the 26th of this month. hope that helps. 16:28, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
 * I just wanted someone to respond to my application. Thanx. -[[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]] [[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]]
 * Yes, SR and Tucayo have the ultimate authority though I don't think an "Ask Doopliss" section would be in merit as we already have the FAQ for that.
 * If either one doesn't answer by the end of the month, I'll change my sign-up to N/A, so that they aren't expecting an article from me. @ Marioguy1, I was talking about questions whose answers are not listed in the FAQs. -

Yes, that's what: Active users, this page and the FAQ talk page are for. An ask Doopliss section would be available only once a month and therefore would discourage users from asking questions at any other time than that. Maybe we could make a page called "Mariowiki:Questions" where you post your question and another user who knows the answer answers it. Maybe...you know what, that's a good idea! I might make up a rough draft of that in my spare time...you could archive the page every 20 headers...maybe...


 * That's actually a really good idea. I was going to change my sign-up soon anyway because I realized not enough people would give me questions in time. I was just trying to get more involved. I'll change my sign-up to N/A. -[[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]] [[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]]

Upcomming Tourneys
Please add to the mainpage. It has been proposed and accepted -- 23:28, 22 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Coincollector added it. 01:17, 23 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Thanks :D -- 10:23, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

Help Needed! Who Saved the Club Nintendo Comics?
Sorry I'm posting this here, since it's not related to the wiki directly. The creation of new articles and the improvement of old ones depends greatly on it, though. Let's get to the point: In the articles about Club Nintendo comics, we used to have a link to this website, where you could download PDF versions of the comics. Problem is: They were taken off the website and I have no access to most of the comics anymore. So, if anyone of you has saved the comics while they were still online, I'd be more than glad if (s)he could tell me. Thanks in advance. 16:18, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Chat Down
It seems that Darkmyst's own main server is down, which makes all of its chatrooms down. Once that site works again, everything should be fine. 10:10, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

Mariodsi Have you noticed some articals are unusual?Like a SMB3 artical it called the Mushroom Lands (countries)that's not right.

Help! The Main Page is so ugly!
Yes. You need to clear your cache to fix it:


 * Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload, or press Ctrl-Shift-R (Cmd-Shift-R on Apple Mac);
 * IE: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5;
 * Konqueror:: simply click the Reload button, or press F5;
 * Opera users may need to completely clear their cache in Tools→Preferences.

I altered it to take better advantage of CSS. Otherwise, it's the same. 04:16, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The content in all the boxes is lower down than it should be. -- 07:29, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Hm, I don't know what caused that. Looks like you fixed it, though. 20:48, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Unused Files problem - glitch?
Many times I decide to delete some unused files I see some used images within this page that appear to be unused - clicking on them and watch their links you see nothing. For example, all the images from the article Kolorado are set here and they're all in use... What's that problem invading that page that the user told me almost five months ago?
 * When one of the images is linked to with a space between "Image:" and the name, it messes all the images in the page up (just like how the spacious categories are invisible to DPL). The Kolorado page's first image was linked to as [[Image: Kolorado.PNG]], which is why the images didn't register. It's strange how one little spacing error could wreak such havoc... - 20:32, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Ah, I see. Well, I'll take care about that. Thank you.

"Real Name" in Special:Preferences
(Apologies if I'm not in the right place.) This is about the field labelled "Real Name" in the preferences. I can't figure out where it appears in relation to your contributions. I'm told it will be used to provide attribution, so a logical place is the history or Special:Contributors, but nothing so far.

Secondly, is there a way to get the signature to display GMT/UTC instead of EDT? (I know there's a preferences option, but it doesn't seem to affect signatures.) I don't like how it assumes I'm American and I would rather not have to add four to everything if I don't have to. Toadfan 10:33, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The Real Names appear on UserScore, which only the Sysops can access. That way, if you need attribution, we can confirm who you are, but you don't have to display your identity to the whole Internet (though that's not the only reason the page was restricted). The names might appear elsewhere as well, but I don't know for sure. As for the signatures, I'm pretty sure they can't be changed; they're set to EDT/EST because the Wiki itself is set to that time zone - it has nothing to do with individual Users' locations. Hopefully that answers your questions, but if you have any more, you can post them on MarioWiki talk:FAQ. - 21:53, 12 August 2009 (EDT)


 * Actually, add "?action=credits" to the end of a page's URL to see the "real names" of the contributors. eg. http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Main_Page?action=credits 22:05, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
 * ...Cool. - 22:19, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Game & Watch
While there is around a dozen of Mario Game & Watch titles, the Wiki also has articles on many more Game & Watch games, since they were included in the Mario themed Game & Watch Gallery series. However, articles such as Ball handle those as if they were "real" Mario games. I think the non-Mario Game & Watch titles should be handled like mini-games, since the only reason for the articles is that they were featured in the compilations. After all, this Mario Wiki and not Nintendo Wiki. The DSiWare article also lists all Game & Watch ports (only exact ports in this case and no Mario remakes), including those that don't feature any Mario characters. What do you think? --Grandy02 16:05, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The Modern versions of these titles are "real" Mario games, but I agree that those articles should be dealt with in regards to the Game & Watch Gallery updates as opposed to the original games themselves. That means replacing their standard game infoboxes with special G&W Gallery Mini-game templates, and scrapping all the DSi information, correct? I think Manhole is a good example of what we'd be striving for: a concise introduction, followed by the information about the original/classic game, and then the modern stuff. Perhaps to keep in step with the rest of the wiki's organization, there should be a "History" section with a "Background" sub-section dealing with the original game (i.e. the release date, the photo of the game, a mention of its DSiWare release, and any unique gameplay elements); the brunt of the original gameplay would then be included in the "Classic" sub-header of the "Game & Watch Gallery" section (covering the series, not any one title in particular, seeing as some games, like Chef, appear in multiple galleries), with the "Modern" version once again bringing up the rear. Or, if all those headers seem superfluous, simply sticking to a "Background" header and a "Game & Watch Gallery" header with the "Classic" and "Modern" sub-headers would work too. I like the latter option the best, what about you guys? -  20:14, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Sounds good. Could you make the infobox? --Grandy02 06:37, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm afraid I can't - or at least, not at this moment. I haven't learnt the "how-to"s of infoboxes yet, and I don't have enough time to learn right now (regardless of how simple it may be). Sorry. - 22:09, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Boos and Goombas.
In the Japanese games, King Boo was originally two separate characters. Super Mario Sunshine had "Boss Teresa," while the rest have "King Teresa." Also, Atomic Boo is simply the Japanese name of Big Boo. What we call a Goomba was also originally two separate entities: Kuribon (SMW) and Kuribou (everywhere else.) So, should there be separate articles for these?

More generally, when the English and Japanese games contradict, what do we do? 04:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)


 * i say we should stick to the english, and mention the japanese thing in the page

Server Upgrade
Hello everyone, Steve decided to shut down the wiki for ~14 hours to do a (overdue?) server upgrade. Please enjoy the faster speeds! 01:04, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Glitch
When try to enter the Waluigi page,I'll get message saying"The Super Mario Wiki does not have a page for "Waluigi".".Yet when I click the history tab all the past edits are still there.


 * Never mind it's fixed.

I found similar problems for Goombella and Lady Bow articles. They have vanished. Edofenrir 13:39, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Ok, the same problem appears while accessing the Fire Bro. article. Apparently some articles got damaged, for there history remains, but the article is inaccessable.

Edofenrir 15:03, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
 * All fixed. -- 15:08, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
 * A similar error appears when viewing the Castle_of_Priscilla_the_Peckish article. The article cannot be viewed, but the history can be accessed fine. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Fix'd. Whenever you find a glitchy page, just use the History to find the most recent viable revision and edit it; that will restore the page. - 20:32, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Extra!
The Shroom has been deleted by Tar Boy!
 * Fixed and blocked the guy --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  16:27, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Wanted Pages
I've been browsing the wanted pages for ones that I can create and I've noticed around page 517, there is a wanted page titled Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story (I just copied and pasted the title then put the brackets). But when I did the same to the title of the game, The link appears and I just don't see a difference in spelling or anything Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story. Is that just me or are these identical and there's a glitch

10:12, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
 * There is a difference, one uses a kind of apostrophe (') and the other uses another kind (’) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  10:30, 30 August 2009 (EDT)


 * Ok thanks Tucayo. I would have never seen that.


 * No problem :) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  15:46, 1 September 2009 (EDT)

Games page
I've added a comment on the Games talk page and would like to have feedback from you guys. The games page is a very important page on the Wiki that has been lying around abandoned forever and we should create some guidlines for its structure, maybe have a proposal as well. - 12:46, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

Beta Super Mario Wiki
Couldn't you realase that thing? I think it's very useful.--MATEOELBACAN 17:01, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Uh... What? If you are refering to a MarioWiki equivalent to the Wikipedia Beta, we don't have one, at least none that I have heard of. 17:05, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

The MarioWiki also won't be able to have Wikipedia's new style any time soon. We're not up to date with the latest MediaWiki version because it has conflicts with many extensions that we're using. I don't know what extensions exactly, but it's stuff like: Edit Count, Check User, the IRC Chat, patrollers, user renames, DPL, multi-upload, enhanced parser functions, random selections, YouTube embedding and "Keep your hands to yourself" which prevents you from editing user pages that don't belong to you. And we don't want to lose compability with some of those extensions just to have a different site layout. - 10:04, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Well,the normal Wiki is also good.--MATEOELBACAN 16:13, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Exactly, the Wiki's fine the way it is. As the old saying goes: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." - 20:13, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

This Hacker
I have herd a lot about some hacker Is this a very big Issue? Also I talked to at school he says he is planning to do similar things.
 * MediaWiki software is very secure, and the passwords are hashed. It would be very hard for "Tar Boy" to actually hack this place. So it's not an issue. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * The troll who has been referred to as a hacker did not actually hack anything. What actually happened is that several users noticed their userpages had been changed to a pornographic image without their consent, and that they could not be changed back. Since under normal circumstances a userpage can only be edited by its owner or administrators, it was assumed that the wiki had been hacked. As it turned out, the troll had simply edited a few templates in common use with pornographic imagery, which requires no hacking. Those templates which were hit have been reverted and protected, making an attack of this nature more difficult in the future. 10:34, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Question
I think I heard this somewhere, but didn't we have a proposal or something on character infoboxes on SSB character pages? For example, Ness has a character AND ssb infobox, while Lucas only has the ssb infobox. So which page is correct? Sorry if this is common knowlege, but I don't remember it exactly.

Judgeing Did You Know
I am Zero! Alright, the updated Did You Know is alright, but the third trivia is too simple, the wiki need more complex trivias, or else I'll put that proposal up again. Zero signing out.

There's not a lot we can do, the did you now section is based off of the three newest articles.
 * THen you update it, Zero. Anyone can --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  10:54, 4 October 2009 (EDT)


 * I agree with Zero, that's too plain.--
 * Read my comment above --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  11:11, 4 October 2009 (EDT)


 * Yeah, the problem is that I don't really know what fact to put...--

In my opinion, it seems a little silly to base the three 'Did You Know?' facts off of our newest articles solely. There are plenty of articles that were created long ago that have interesting information that could be included in that template. 15:05, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes, but it's a nice way to show what's new on the wiki. 15:16, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

It is no simple task to pick three interesting facts from new articles, while they have to be from different series, especially if a majority of the new articles contain BiS material. It was not easy to find something from Paper Mario and the Wario series between all the stuff, but I did my best. And on a side note: Saying things like "Do better, or I request removal" is kinda rude. - 16:20, 5 October 2009 (EDT)