Talk:The Princess Peach

Shouldn't the name of this page be "Princess Peach (Cruise Ship)" or something along those lines? I know saying "The" helps distinguish it from the character and they say it every time, but they only do because it's a ship, it's not actually part of the name since it's lowercase (when it's not at the start of a sentence, of course). As is this is just including the definite article of the subject of the page.--Kombatgod (talk) 18:17, December 11, 2020 (EST)
 * Also, maybe it's not noted in the in-game description, but should the name be italicized as names of other cruise ships? Anyhow, yeah, it should probably be renamed to Princess Peach (Cruise Ship) if "The" isn't part of its name, as you said. 18:22, December 11, 2020 (EST)


 * It is part of the name, in the map, in the on-screen name when visiting the area, and in the Collectible Treasure.


 * If we're going to italicise the name then we should do it for every other ship as well like S.S. Flavion. 18:52, December 11, 2020 (EST)
 * The ship is officially called "The Princess Peach" everywhere in-game. And there are already distinguish templates at the top of both this article and the actual character's article, so that should hopefully be enough. As for italicising ship names, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki does that too but to be honest, I don't think it's absoloutely necessary here.
 * I think you're wrong in saying that's the name of the ship: everytime they mention its name in dialogue the "the" is lowercase. I am convinced that the page should probably be called "The Princess Peach" since that's the name of the in-game location, but I still don't think it's the name of the ship itself, I think the distinction should be made. Basically "The Princess Peach" is the name of the gameplay area including the Princess Peach.--Kombatgod (talk) 06:35, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * There's a similar discussion here, but what I take is that since "the" is part of the location label and "prefixed" in other mentions it is technically part of the title. I'm also going to add that I strongly disagree with italicizing boat names, including S.S. Flavion, because that's just not how it's formatted in the source. At the very least, it needs to be up to a proposal first. This is fiction, not the real world, and the same rules don't always apply, much less by Nintendo. LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:07, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * When I asked Ray Trace about it, he responded with this link, but I agree that it could actually use further discussion.
 * Yes, but that's regarding a real-life subject. A title of a game would be italicized for instance, but not a title in a game (by most of Nintendo's standards), if that makes sense. Consider also that following capitalization conventions opens issues with many in-game names as well, like "the Princess Peach". It's not really up to us to "correct" the nomenclature. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:24, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * In any case I'm fairly certain that "The" shouldn't be italicized like Ray Trace did, I mean it doesn't even do that in the link he provided. The page you pointed to, The Sweet Stuff, actually goes according to what I thought: the page is named "The Sweet Stuff" after the in-game area but the ship is "the Sweet Stuff". That's beside the question of should it be in italics at all which I don't see the point in doing... but I don't have a strong opinion about that.--Kombatgod (talk) 14:15, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * I think even for fictional entities, we need to italicize boat names per formatting. I recall in other fictional works, boat names are italicized. Even if in-game formatting doesn't do italics, I don't think that might be relevant. For instance, hypothetical game bios that don't italicize game names probably don't matter for this wiki's formatting. Anyhow, even if this gets italics, wouldn't this mean fictional book entries like Dark Prognosticus get them? 14:53, December 12, 2020 (EST)