Talk:Lava Bubble

Do Podoboos appear in SM64? I remember some kind of fireball with eyes.

I do remember something that jumps in and out of lava, not sure if its a Podoboo though. -- Sir Grodus


 * It's not officially called a Podoboo. It's more like a flaming arch that rises from the lava (no eyes though). However, the painting to Lethal Laval Land has a picture of a flame with eyes and a mouth (although the actual entity does not appear in the game). -- Son of Suns

The Lethal Lava Land picture kinda looks like Fryguy, it even mentions that on Wikipedia. -- Sir Grodus

Looks just like the Podoboo's Bowser throws out in Super Mario World. - Yoshi Master

Oh yeah, I remember that! But I'm still leaning towards Fryguy.

It looks kind of like the fireball enemies from the Rainbow Road dribble Race in Mario Hoops 3 on 3, which in turn resemble the Fire Ball enemies from the Final Fantasy series.

it IS Fryguy! I Checked! Max2

From? - Yoshi Master

The game! Compare a picture of the painting to FryGuy in the link above. It is easier to see in the SM64DS. Max2

Sorry, but I'm not seeing it. The fireball on the painting looks more like an actual fireball, but with Fryguy, you can see a mask - Ultimatetoad 17:45, 27 February 2007 (EST)

I don't think it looks like Fryguy. Fryguy has some kind of blue mask. 18:44, 27 February 2007 (EST)

It probably is not Fryguy. Fryguy looks different than that. I agree with Ultimatetoad. Snowspike55

Silence all of you. - Yoshi Master

? What? What game is THAT from? Let's see... SMB2... SM64... ??? Max2

Super Mario World. Final fight with Bowser. Those look more like the painting fireballs than Fryguy. - Yoshi Master

Looks more like Super Mario World. DISCUSSION: OVER!

So wait, they're only Podoboos if they have eyes? What about the random fireballs without eyes, in like every game with lava? Even Super Mario Bros? Are those just fireballs? 00:38, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

We should move some of the articles... they are the same enemy!
The Podoboo entry mentions that some possibly related enemies are Lava Bubbles, Lava Drops, Embers, and Phantom Ember. Thanks to The Mushroom Kingdom, we know that not only are they directly related - they are exactly the same enemy!

Podoboos (platformers), Lava Bubbles (Paper Mario), and Sparky (Super Mario RPG) have the same name in Japanese - バブル (Bubble). They are intended to be the same exact enemy. Similarly, Embers are an offshoot of the Podoboo, just as Fireballs (Buburr[?]) and Pyrosheres (Bobble) are. The localizers were just a bit careless when it came back to referring to the Bubbles' English name (after all, they're more concerned with changing Nokonokos to Koopa Troopas and such). Therefore, to be consistent, the articles should all be merged under a single name (preferably Podoboo). LinkTheLefty 14:34, 12 November 2008 (EST)
 * Er, while they may be related (going strictly off of translations), they do need to stay separate. Their names are official and different in America, and they each affect gameplay differently. 15:23, 12 November 2008 (EST)
 * "Affect Gameplay differently"? How so? In all games they appeared in, they serve as Mario enemies, even if the genres are different. Using that logic, we should create an article for because they "affect gameplay differently" than in the Platformers. --Blitzwing 15:28, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Let's put it this way:


 * Podoboos: First debuted in Super Mario Bros.; they jump out of lava in the same vertical motion; they are found some Mario Party mini-games, each affecting gameplay differently in one way or another.
 * Sparky: First debuted in Super Mario RPG; they have an attack, HP, and defense different to that of a Podoboo, which has none; they have a slightly different appearance; they can only be found in certain locations, different than Podoboos.
 * Lava Bubble, Ember, and Phantom Ember: Each of these debut in a different game, but all appear together in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door; each has a different attack, defense, and HP from the last; they appear in different locations.
 * Hotheads and Li'l Sparkies: Each debut in Super Mario World; though they appear to be of the same species, they have a different name.

Each of these points prove as to how they affect gameplay differently. The Koopa Shell from Super Mario Bros. serves the same purpose as in the Mario Kart series: they get kicked/thrown to get in the player's way. In Super Mario Bros., when the player kicks the shell, it generally destroys enemies along it's path; however, they can ricochet off of an object and hit the player, damaging him/her. In the Mario Kart series, they player throws the shell to inflict damage on an opponent. 15:46, 12 November 2008 (EST)
 * I support merging, but only for the enemies that have the same name in Japanese. Those with different Japanese names, no matter how similar they may be in name or appearance, will have to remain separate as sub-species. Redstar 14:57, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Podoboo (Old Name) < Lava Bubble (New Name)
Since when where these enemies last called Podoboos. These days they seem to be called Lava Bubbles. I saw in Mario Part 8 that Bowser called them Lava Bubble and also Prima guides seem to call them that as well, do we think we should change the page name to Lava Bubble.--New Super Yoshi 14:53, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
 * Tell us the proof, and we will change it if that is an official source. Otherwise, that's a fan name. --Super Famicom 64 16:15, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
 * Which Prima guides because only ones released after 2007 matter
 * Super Mario 3D land.--Yoshidarkblue.png Super YoshiYoshired.png 11:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)
 * Which one. --Super Famicom 64 11:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)


 * Maybe the name was changed specifically for that game (sort of how Star Coins were called Star Medals in the same game). Unless more sources appear that call these enemies Lava Bubbles, we should keep the name as is. -- MimiTheCopycat  19:26, 22 August 2012 (EDT)

Rekindling this discussion. As New Super Yoshi said, when was the last time these enemies were called Podoboos? Officially, I mean, not just by fans. If they haven't been called Podoboos since Super Mario World first used Lava Bubble, or even just not in a very long time, that's significant cause to rename for sure, but I'd like to make sure my facts are straight first before opening any sort of formal proposal. -- 1337star (Mailbox SP) 15:36, 30 November 2012 (EST)
 * I know for a fact that they are called Poodoboo in Mario Party 2 and in Mario Party 7.


 * In MP8, their figure description calls them lava bubbles. We probably should make a TPP. -- NSMBWIIEJr.png BowserJunior RULES! 19:25, 31 December 2012 (EST)

I'm all for Lava Bubbles. All the Paper Mario games refer to them as such, and they were not named in Sticker Star. --Spookum (talk) 21:32, 31 December 2012 (EST)

Move to Lava Bubble
We should move this article. Recently, they are no longer called podoboo, being called "lava bubble" in Prima guides and in-game in mario party 8.

Proposer: Deadline: January 15, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per Proposal.
 * 2) Per comments above/proposal.
 * 3) I agree to this proposal. In short: per proposal.
 * 4) If the prima guide says so.
 * 5) Per Electrical Bowser jr.
 * 6) I like "Podoboo" better, but since "Lava Bubble" is more recent...
 * 7) &mdash; Per proposal. I even think it's policy to have articles named after what they were most recently known as, but I may be wrong here.
 * 8) I had no idea what the heck a podoboo was until I looked here, I always called them lava bubbles...

Comments
I would like to know what they are called in the NSMB series before I cast my vote.


 * Anyone got the NSMBU Prima guide?--

I think this case is similar to the Venus Fire Trap, they are no longer called as such, with Fire Piranha being more common nowadays. Because of that, I don't know if I should support or oppose this.