Talk:Reissue

Hmmm I never noticed before but why does Doki Doki Panic have a page but not Panel De Pon?- User:Zedxclon

Italics?
Should the game titles included in parentheses be italicized? The titles that are just being listed look fine as they are, but for the Mario Bros. section, SMA and M&L:SS look wrong without being italicized, seeing as they're not listed, but part of a statement. However, that might end up looking inconsistant instead, and I don't think italicizing everything is the right way to go either. Thoughts? - 20:54, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

New! Play Control?
How are those game remakes? They're port with tacked-on waggle if anything. --Glowsquid 16:13, 7 September 2009 (EDT)

The rewrite of the article
I began a rewrite a long time ago. As you can see, I have not completed it. Here is a couple of things that needs to be done:
 * add the platform and the release date of the reissues and original games
 * explain why each game is considered a reissue
 * move all the "Others" in the appropriate subsections.
 * know if Tetris DS is a remake
 * know if we can talk about BS Panel De Pon - Event '98, a remake of a "game not originally in the Mario series

If you'd like to help, you can do one of these things. 12:00, 20 August 2013 (EDT)


 * Might need some images as well and an overall organization. 16:37, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Yep. I had began something... but I haven't finished. My idea was that every reissue was sorted by kind of reissue (remake, port...), and then, by date. Do you want another organization? 17:17, 3 September 2013 (EDT)

Mario Golf (GBC) isn't a reissue. It's a completely different game to the N64 original. 11:21, 27 December 2013 (EST)
 * You're right, I've removed it. 12:38, 27 December 2013 (EST)

Misuse of "reissue"
Why the change from "Remake" to "Reissue" for the category? I'm pretty sure the latter is now being used wrongly - a "reissue" is something sent back out in the world with few or no changes - the Virtual Console versions of most games, for instance. Whereas the 1994 Game Boy version of Donkey Kong is (for the first four levels) a remake of the arcade Donkey Kong, not a reissue or port (hell, the NES version is a remake too, owing to the legal fighting over who owned the source code).

Basically:
 * 1) A game allowed to go out of print and then brought back out is a reissue.
 * 2) A game given new packaging (e.g., Player's Choice) is a reissue
 * 3) A game emulated directly from the original code (e.g., Virtual Console, the Wii disc version of Super Mario All-Stars) is a reissue.

A game recoded, redesigned or upgraded is not a reissue. It may or may not be a remake, but it's still a different thing and shouldn't be on this page or category. For instance, In no way, shape or form is Super Mario Bros. Special a "reissue" of Super Mario Bros. in any way that Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels isn't. It isn't even a remake, it's a different game that shares some features. [Frankly, I'm not even certain there needs to BE a "reissue" page.]

(There are also partial remakes embedded in other games too - the Throwback Galaxy from Super Mario Galaxy 2, and the first star in particular, is a remake of Whomp's Fortress from Super Mario 64.) - Reboot (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2016 (EST)
 * I removed the fals SMB Special listing and I agree the current name isn't ideal, but I do think there needs to be a page making a distinction between the different types of "When a game is rereleased or remade in some form". What do you propose as a term that englobes everything the current page covers? --Glowsquid (talk) 21:40, 1 January 2016 (EST)
 * If we're just talking about the distinction, I would do it on a remake page.
 * If you want a list page of all games which have been rereleased, ported ("enhanced" or emulated) or remade... hasn't virtually every Mario game that Nintendo owns the right to rerelease BEEN rereleased in these days of download/Virtual Console releases? Games which have been remade or radically changed in some way in the rerelease (All-Stars, DK94, Game & Watch Gallery, Mario Advance, SM64 DS, etc) have something to discuss. Games with straight reissues/rereleases can just be categorised as such, and listed on the page of the reissue brand, like Player's Choice or Virtual Console. - Reboot (talk) 22:49, 1 January 2016 (EST)


 * The Virtual console ports only get a very brief section called "Virtual Console" which incites the reader to go to the relevant article to see the Games ported. Other ports are worth mentioning, even though in most cases, there is not much to say about the differences. Renaming the page "Remake" would be a mistake, but I agree "Reissue" isn't perfect. For reference, see this forum thread and User:Banon/Work for the current organization of the page 07:57, 2 January 2016 (EST)

category of remakes
I think more research needs to be done to find out which titles were remakes. just because a lot of changes were made does not necessarily mean it is a remake. the only indicator is if the game was built from scratch or not. I have said many times that games such A Link to the Past/Four Swords and The Wind Waker HD are erroneously labeled as remakes when clearly they are not. Final Fantasy 3 and 4 on the DS were remakes.

I think the way this page is organised is a bit screwy, but I don't think the code basis should be the *sole* indicator of if something is classified as a remake or not. If it was, the GBA versions of the Donkey Kong Country games would count as remakes. --Glowsquid (talk) 08:57, 11 January 2018 (EST)

If that it the case then a game coded from scratch even if it is similar is a remake. it all depends if it was built from the ground up or not.

do your research before placing titles in these categories
Before considering which titles belong in each category, do your research on the history of its programming and where the source code originally came from because a remake is not a game that was simply changed. By that logic, the star wars special editions would be considered remakes, which they are not.


 * A film remake is not the same as a video game remake. According to wikipedia, "A video game remake (also called a remaster) is a video game closely adapted from an earlier title, usually for the purpose of modernizing a game for newer hardware and contemporary audiences. Typically, a remake of such game software shares essentially the same title, fundamental gameplay concepts, and core story elements of the original game." Therefore, the Star Wars Special Editions are not remakes, as you say, but games such as Super Mario 64 DS are.
 * 09:33, 11 January 2018 (EST)
 * P.S. Telling someone to "do their research" is rather rude and condescending.

That information is wrong. A remake means it must be coded from the ground up. You are using a source that is not necessarily reliable. I have been in the Zeldawiki (now Gamepedia) and they agreed with me that A Link to thr Past on the GBA was an enhanced port. I am telling you to do you research because you are relying on bad sources.
 * Zeldawiki is unreliable at times too, due to their circumnavigation of adblock, and the arbitrarity that the Link to the Past enemy "Coppie," called identified with the previous enemy "Goriya" in the west, is together with Goriya on that site, but "Zazak," an enemy identified with "Daira" in the west, does get its own separate page. Either way, we are not them. They are all similarly-defined terms, and what one community decides shouldn't affect another. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:08, 11 January 2018 (EST)