Talk:Sliding haymaker

Sliding Haymaker
In game it is called the Sliding Haymaker shouldn’t it be called that? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 14:51, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
 * "(called sliding haymaker by a Save Block)" It's already on the page. Sliding punch is used more commonly. 14:56, April 6, 2019 (EDT)

But it just dosen’t make sense to use a non in-game name when there is one. Also I just beat the game and everywhere I checked it was called The Sliding Haymaker. I just don’t get it... &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:37, April 6, 2019 (EDT)


 * Where did you get that name anyway? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 17:43, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * From the Prima guide. 17:51, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * FROM THERE! Oh that makes things more difficult should we go by The offical Nintendo name or the Prima guide name... Maybe I should make a propulsal? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:00, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I really think I remember both being used in the original. In fact, I think I only recall seeing the "haymaker" thing by a save description, and noticing that because of how odd a name it seemed at the time. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:01, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Let me check my copy of the remake on my 3ds real quick. &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:02, April 8, 2019 (EDT)

I can't look through the entire game anymore, but anyone know of a script dump we could look through? Google turns up nothing. (Also, a Save Block description is still in game.) 18:03, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure in dialog it was called a sliding punch. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:04, April 8, 2019 (EDT)


 * Manuel says this


 * Bowser’s Actions
 * Punch/Sliding Haymaker
 * Press to break rocks
 * and other such obstacles
 * with a punch. To perform
 * a powerful Sliding
 * Haymaker, press while
 * moving with
 * Note: This is exactly how it says word for word line for line!!! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:08, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * The original manual has "Sliding Punch" on page 22. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:11, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Why not say this... called Sliding Haymaker in the remake? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:13, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * It was called that in a save block in the original, though, it's just that everywhere else called it a Sliding Punch. What about the in-game dialog for the remake? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:14, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * In my game it said that bowser just learned the Sliding Haymaker! By guess what! A save block! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:15, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * That's what the original said. What did dialog say? What did Bowser and Starlow call it while talking? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:16, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Let me check I have my remake right next to me! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:16, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * In the guide section of the Star Menu it says Sliding Haymaker! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:18, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * And from what I remember they called it the Sliding Haymaker! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:18, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * And I remember them saying punch in the original. I'd like some verification that dialog changed. Youtube video would be nice. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:19, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I have a text copy on Word, and they call it punch(es)(ing) while moving when it is available. 18:21, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * This the original or the remake? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:21, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * original. 18:23, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I checked a video and it says punch while moving! But that could just be instructions and the Sliding Haymaker is the NAME of the move!? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:27, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I think thats it. &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:32, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * So there wasn't a script change with that....probably should be moved, then, even if it's a less-intuitive name. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:34, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Wait what does that mean? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:35, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * We could also name it Sliding punch/Haymaker! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:37, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Nah, that'd be silly. What I meant was that "punch" makes more sense than "haymaker" on a logical standpoint, because "haymaker" is more obscure. However, if this is the name they're trying to use consistently here, than that's that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:45, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Also the prima guide was a third-party company when the guide was made and Sliding Punch is the instructions and the game makes it seam like that Sliding Haymaker is the name! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:48, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Why not say called  Sliding Haymaker by a save block and in the remake? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 18:56, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I've found THREE gameplays of BiS and literally nobody saves after Bowser gets the sliding haymaker!! We really need a source ASAP, guys. -- 19:12, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * "Haymaker" was indeed said in the original by the save block. I again remember it because of how odd it sounded. Also given how much trouble the Durmite gave me on my first playthrough, I made sure to save immediately then. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:34, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * We should make it the offical name then &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:38, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I agree. 19:41, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Should I tell Alex95 or should we wait for more people? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:43, April 8, 2019 (EDT)

(indent restart) If Haymaker is more commonly used, then sure. I'm not finding any text dump, and let's plays are unhelpful. 19:45, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ok then I can’t do it. But you can (I think)... &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:46, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Right? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:51, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Technically, "sliding punch" is just a name used by the characters generally, its like a enemy getting some random nickname that is used more in the story rather than the official one in the wiki. -- 19:54, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * @Tent2 Wrong, the original manual capitalizes both words. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:59, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Er, is it called "sliding haymaker" or "Sliding Haymaker"? 19:56, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Sliding Haymaker it is a name! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:59, April 8, 2019 (EDT)

Page has been moved. Could use an actual ref for Haymaker if we can get one. 20:08, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * "Bowser learns the sliding haymaker. He sets out for his castle once again!" Either this or 3DS manual. 20:11, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I can cover for the 3ds manuel but how do you want me to do it? A page or a extra part in the M&L BIS + BJJ Page huh? &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 20:36, April 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * I will make a new page and link it! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 20:46, April 8, 2019 (EDT)