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That can be found...
The link to RFA is not a subpage, but rather a section of my main page, and can be found under User:Trig Jegman#Terminology instead of User:Trig Jegman/Terminology. Trig - 16:26, October 19, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Super Mario Party notability
I'm not sure what you mean by "notability" but if you want my opinion (since I'm not very familiar with the game my judgements might be a bit clouded but anyway):
 * 1) Sceptical on this one. They're the same boards with the layouts and events changed to accommodate for the open-ended gameplay, but I'm not sure if that's enough to warrant a split.
 * 2) In the same way Challenge Road's worlds have their own articles, I agree.
 * Yes, they are different, and on top of that its Japanese name is completely different (ドッキリマス Dokkirimasu which loosely means "surprise" or "prank"); however, what exactly made you split VS Space from Minigame Space? You didn't get a response from the talk page, and the same information is on both pages.

Of course, proposals would be best for all three. 10:21, October 23, 2019 (EDT)


 * That doesn't answer why you did it in the first place. You should have gotten some consensus first before going ahead with a split. The same should go for this Bad Luck/Unlucky one, and it should be more than just one or two others. And after looking into the River Survival mode a bit more, I'm finding them dissimilar to the Challenge Road worlds and I don't think these small paths are worth separating into their own pages (especially considering, unlike Challenge Road, the minigames are always randomised). This is why I'm suggesting proposals for each one, not just for the boards. 21:25, October 23, 2019 (EDT)

Gold Pass exclusive karts
The Gold Pass exclusive karts in Mario Kart Tour are no distinct karts in the sense that they need an own page. Some of them appear in older Mario Kart games as well, where they do not have their own name. The relation between the "re-colored" karts and their "prototypes" is exactly the same as the relation between the "dressed" drivers and their "prototypes". They do not have their own page either. Tomoto17 (talk) 04:53, November 5, 2019 (EST)

In my opinion, Toad (Pit Crew) differs from the other dressed drivers in the facts that Toads are a species while Peach, Mario and Rosalina are just individuals, and the Pit Crew suit is a general suit, while all the other suits are Tour-related. Whether or not Toad (Pit Crew) will get his own button will determine if he should get his own page. Tomoto17 (talk) 04:53, November 5, 2019 (EST)

Re: New sponsor?
No, that's one of the new ones, there are a couple of new ones in Mario Kart Tour (Off the top of my head I know that there's also a Bowser computer company, MES and the Racer's drinks), and I'll get around to making the article for those soon, I'm quite busy at the moment so I haven't had the time just yet. Thanks for the stuff that you've been doing for the Mario Kart Tour sponsors, that'll really help me out when I get around to adding some more to the articles. :) BBQ Turtle (talk) 13:34, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Rabbit
I can understand the Beetle (character) move, but I don't think Rabbit (character) is clear. The Rabbits in Super Mario 64 DS and Super Mario Odyssey can also be regarded as characters. 16:38, November 20, 2019 (EST)
 * Sure, but they don't need a name to be very obviously seen as a rabbit. They talk to the player and are active in the games, so they are by all definitions a character. They are referred to as simply "rabbits" in the manual, I think. tbf, I missed the mark on the ones in Odyssey, they don't talk to anyone it seems like. My point is, "Rabbit (character)" can refer to more than just the one in Donkey Kong 64. 17:31, November 20, 2019 (EST)

RE:Super Mario Maker 2 official courses
Hey there! Why, yes, I do know of some official Nintendo courses in Course World, such as one with the Superball Flower. I can help you with anything you need regarding that. 22:13, November 25, 2019 (EST)

I have added the current official courses for both NintendoJP (Japan) and NintendoUS (US). All of the US courses are there, while there are some Japan courses missing because I couldn't translate them from Japanese symbols to English. 641-9CJ-J9G is a course ID for NintendoUS, and 6GV-3YY-7QF is a course ID for NintendoJP. If you need help with anything else or if you can help me with some of the other courses, please let me know! 19:02, November 28, 2019 (EST)

Levelbox parameters for Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey enemy squad levels
Hey. I just wanted to remind you that since there's an enemy squad level for all levels in both Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser and Bowser Jr.'s Journey, I decided to add a parameter for the squad level that's featured in the game. Once again, I just wanted to let you know about my change on the Levelbox template since I get nervous whenever I do a major change to something on this wiki...

0:33, December 2, 2019 (EDT)

BBQ Turtie
While I appreciate you looking out for others, there's no need to make possibly impersonating accounts just so we can block them. That is actually a violation of our rules, as it falls under duplicate accounts. If someone makes a impersonating account (which has happened before, even to me, but that's beside the point), just report them and let us deal with it. 14:09, December 7, 2019 (EST)
 * Yeah, I know you were trying to help, which is why I didn't warn you for it. But it's more trouble than it's worth, one variant of the name isn't going to stop anyone. "BB0 Turtle", "BBQ Tvrtle", or even "33Q Tirtle" are all possibilities. It is also possible someone comes up with a similar name and doesn't know about the staff member, and thus no hostility. There are several members with "Alex##" that were created both before and after me (though, granted, it's a popular name choice, it seems), so we really just treat each account on a case-by-case basis before determining what should happen with them. 20:44, December 7, 2019 (EST)

Warning
Your "second reminders", as well as this noticeboard report, could have been avoided if you had closely examined the circumstances surrounding the "issue" first. The former in particular, handing out a reminder based on the redirect being "seemingly" invalid or something you're not sure about is entirely unacceptable, when the better course of action would have been simply to ask where it came from. Be more careful when issuing reminders/warnings next time. 07:57, December 11, 2019 (EST)

Checking In
How's it going with the Super Mario Maker 2 official Course World levels? I have been working on some articles for Ninji Speedruns. As always, let me know if you need help with anything, and I will let you know if you can help me. I can upload images to those NintendoUS and NintendoJP pages, if you'd like. 15:33, December 13, 2019 (EST)
 * I have just checked and refreshed, and it doesn't look that way. I'm not sure how the Ninji Speedrun release dates work...I will check again tomorrow. 22:12, December 13, 2019 (EST)

About Fly
I would have moved that myself, it was just late and I was tired and didn't want to change who knows how many links. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:54, December 14, 2019 (EST)

Temple of the Triforce
Excellent work on that Super Mario Maker 2 level Temple of the Triforce. I tried doing it myself, but I found it confusing and complicated for me. I'm glad someone finished it. Still waiting on that Ninji Speedruns level...there is another project for SMM2 I hope to start soon. 15:54, December 16, 2019 (EST)
 * I will do that. I could only find videos for NintendoJP and NintendoUS on the internet. However, I do have a switch account. 11:50, December 18, 2019 (EST)

RE: New York Minute
No, because this is the case with every track with numbered variants (esp. given more will eventually come out). 06:40, December 19, 2019 (EST)


 * There doesn't need to be a proposal. I'm surprised Vanilla Lake hasn't even been created yet. 19:07, December 19, 2019 (EST)

SMM2 / Merry Christmas
I was able to finish those three levels, although one or two of them could use a look-over. It feels so good to finish. I definitely won't be playing anymore Nintendo official levels anytime soon, although I will continue to write articles for Ninji Speedruns courses, as well as look over already finished Super Mario Maker 2 levels and fix them up a bit. Merry Christmas! What do you plan to work on? 21:47, December 25, 2019 (EST)

Copy-pasting information
This is something I tried to bring to your attention in this edit summary. When you write about a new subject, you have a tendency to take the wording as-is from a page that describes a similar concept and simply apply it onto your new page. In some cases, such as the Banana Barrels or kadomatsu pages (both of which were created by you), copying information from similarly-working subjects (Mushroom Cannon and Festive tree respectively) can easily lend to mistakes, apart from being a lazy practice and giving the reader unpleasant deja vu. Case in point, you seemed to assume that since kadomatsu have basically the same purpose of festive trees in Mario Kart Tour, this must mean that they share all the tid-bits apart from appearance. Well...


 * they don't shake when hit, they jump up in the air
 * saying that at least one kadomatsu was added in every course of the New Year's Tour is technically correct; however, the phrasing worked better for the festive tree since there were visibly fewer in each course due to their large size, whereas kodomatsu are smaller and always found in large numbers (from what I could see myself). It's important to make a clear image in the reader's head beyond, something which I admit I'm not perfect at but I always try to do.

Remember that some pages, such as those on Mario Kart Tour karts and gliders, may indeed communicate their information better through a formula, simply because they don't have much going for them individually--essentially, "this is a [thing] in Mario Kart Tour, is classified as a [class], and gives you [that] when you use it". I myself have done this in this past, so I'm not saying that you should stop the practice entirely. But you have to know when it's appropriate to copy and paste information and when it's not. You are a hard worker with good intentions, so I hope you will receive what I wrote with positive thoughts that you can improve your writing style. -- 14:22, January 1, 2020 (EST)

Re:Ninji Speedrun
Just checked the notifications. No new speedruns yet...but you can now upload a max of 100 courses instead of 64, so that's something. I will check again at 8:00 tonight - I think that's usually when they are uploaded. 19:14, January 7, 2020 (EST)
 * 8:00 - I'll have to remember that. Thanks for letting me know. I will continue to write articles for new Ninji Speedruns, if that is all right with you. I look forward to helping you with future projects. 20:11, January 8, 2020 (EST)

RE: ON/OFF Conveyor Belt
Don't see why not, and yes, I think the switch should be mentioned to some degree on the ON/OFF Switch page. 19:40, January 11, 2020 (EST)

Re:"Fake" video
Okay, here's some proof: I'm pretty sure that this ending is fake. If you can find some official confirmation or multiple reliable sources confirming it, it can be re-added. 14:17, January 24, 2020 (EST)
 * The original uploader of the video has posted fan-made "endings" of other games, like this one.
 * If Mario sprites and sound effects really were outright used, Nintendo would've taken the game down.
 * Spriters' Resource doesn't have any sprites of the Mario content, and for such a popular game, it certainly would be up there already if it was real.
 * There are no reliable sources covering this supposed ending of the game.
 * There's only one low-quality recording of this ending. Whenever a challenge like this becomes popular, you can find a bunch of uploads of people beating it.
 * Nobody can agree on what happens when you "beat" the game; do you just keep going, is there a death barrier, does Mario appear, what happens?

RE: Question
There are also other similarly reworked boss-turned-normal-type microgames like Loot Scoot and Home Run Derby to consider so you should get consensus on this. 04:48, January 30, 2020 (EST)

Autograph
Just going to throw out that I find it ironic that you split things that have the same name and sprite, but not the ones with enough differences to actually deserve splitting. Just because the context is slightly different doesn't really warrant a split. That would be like splitting off every individual Super Mushroom location. I don't agree to this at all, cool off. You're on a rapid slippery slope here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:08, February 9, 2020 (EST)
 * As a matter of fact, I have seen multiple people disagree with this. It's not that they're different items; rather, they're different instances and interpretations of the same item. It's one thing to do it when they have the same name but different sprites in unrelated sections of the same game, but when they have the same sprite and names in different games...that's absolutely different from Elevator Key. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:59, February 9, 2020 (EST)
 * I literally just explained why that situation isn't a precedent. Those had different sprites in the same game, the autograph has the same sprite and name in different games. There are some shared sprite items that due warrant different articles (like Zess Frappe and Snow Cone), but this isn't one of them. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:56, February 9, 2020 (EST)
 * Yeah, no. I'm with Trig and Doc on the "splitting identical objects" thing. Why don't we split "blaster" Bullet Bills from "outta nowhere" Bullet Bills? Or split every single Goomba in Super Mario Bros.?
 * What I'm getting at is that this needs to stop. Admin opinions aren't magically higher on the established opinion hierarchy than the opinions of regular users. 10:22, February 10, 2020 (EST)

Your proposal to split the Unlucky Space Article
I know it behaves more like the Bowser space, but what else makes it SO different that it was "SUPER DUPER important" to split it!?--Partier (talk) 22:29, February 10, 2020 (EST)

Last warning
That's enough with the trigger-happy page-splitting. Start proposals before making large changes like this rather than basing them on other, separately proposed matters. Yes you have to wait two weeks, but it's better than taking premature action based on little to no consensus and then running into disagreements after the fact. Also, understand that this sort of stuff should be determined by the community; you should be asking admins to get an opinion on the matter, not outright permission. 08:07, February 13, 2020 (EST)


 * This gun-jumping has been an issue even before this that I thought a warning was necessary. I will say those splits shouldn't have gone without further discussion, but that was years ago and it's done now. Fortunately they were similar cases to the proposal, and some of yours may be too, but if you want to cite a proposal as a precedent, you should do it through your own, not through the split itself. Otherwise we take it too far and end up splitting things that are dissimilar to what you're basing them on. It takes time but it's the safest option and gets proper consensus. 21:14, February 13, 2020 (EST)

I don't see how that's a precedent since the pieces (which also aren't proper-noun) actually make up a whole of something and the Star Cures don't. There's also Cobalt Star. 21:14, February 13, 2020 (EST)

Regarding proposals over major coverage changes
Hi, I'd like you to note how when I want to suggest a change, I put a talk section on a talk page and let that sit for a while and see if it garners much opposition. If it doesn't, then I know it's probably safe to go ahead and make a proposal. Rushing in to making one is risky, it's really best to test the waters for a while first rather than do what amounts to making one on impulse. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:13, February 17, 2020 (EST)

Response given
See here. Trig - 17:40, February 24, 2020 (EST)

Ninji Speedrun Alert
New Ninji Speedrun! Super Mario World style, desert theme, vertical subworld. Sounds interesting. And simple. Would you mind if I wrote it? 10:31, February 26, 2020 (EST)

Bowser Statue Proposal
You might be a bit confused with how the proposal is handled. There are four voting options, not two, which means one has to have a majority vote by more than half of the total number of voters. 12:18, February 27, 2020 (EST)
 * "Six voters, four in favor of option 3, three in favor of option 2."
 * ...Hmm, I counted seven. That would mean it would need more than four (rounding up), which would make the extension and Waluigi Time's vote valid. I guess I counted someone twice. Never mind, sorry about that. 12:26, February 27, 2020 (EST)

Hey there!
Hey there, Toadette the Archiver, I'd like to say a big thanks to you for helping me update the Did You Know? section. I'm really sorry, but I had to deal someone who tested positive for the coronavirus. (And I miss L151 too!) Again, thank you! Stay safe and stay home! ฬคгเ๏ кคгՇ 63 (User page - Talk to me!) 00:41, May 25, 2020 (EDT)

RE: New Collab
That sounds excellent! It has been a while since I started a new project. I have mostly been reuploading files for better quality and rewriting something or other. As you probably figured out, I enjoy making consistent level articles. In the meantime, I will also rewrite and expand the requested articles. Something I have been doing with another user on Luigi's Mansion 3, how about one of us goes in order and the other goes in reverse, and we meet in the middle? 18:43, May 26, 2020 (EDT)

This
Before willy-nilly trying to move pages because only one name is cited, check the game to see if the uncited name is used within. This was a problem I needed to fix on Arrow Lift before. Even if you don't have the game, YouTube is a thing. I looked up "Chimp's Skating Challenge Mario" and found the name within 15 seconds. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:14, June 13, 2020 (EDT)

Talk
What do you mean by some pages aren’t stale yet? They are quite old. 17:37, June 27, 2020 (EDT) 17:37, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
 * Actually never mind. 17:41, June 27, 2020 (EDT)

Can you help me finish creating the rest of the pages for these rooms in Luigi's Mansion 3 please? 19:18, September 2, 2020 (EDT) Can you help me finish creating the rest of the pages for these rooms in Luigi's Mansion 3 please? We're almost done, all we have left is Boilerworks, and Master Suites. Thank you. 23:18, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

Screwtop raft
Limited Raft seems to be the correct name. Encyclopedia ' s New Super Mario Bros. Wii section refers to the raft as 「カウントイカダ」 (Kaunto Ikada, Count Raft) on page 149 and the non-numbered elevator as 「リモコン上昇リフト」 (Rimokon Jōshō Rifuto, RemoCon Rising Lift) on page 151, and its New Super Mario Bros. U section refers to the raft as 「カウントリフト」 (Kaunto Rifuto, Count Lift) on page 215 and the numbered elevator as the identical 「リモコン上昇リフト」 (Rimokon Jōshō Rifuto, RemoCon Rising Lift) on page 217. This case doesn't seem too dissimilar to the instance of Screwtop Lift using the name for Screwtop Platform. Anyway, I want to bring this up regarding two other objects that don't have a proper English name. For the "Screw-type Mushroom", policy states clearly to use romanizations as article titles, generally following the. The main exception is when the Japanese word was originally a transliteration of an English word; for example, rifuto is a transliteration of the English word "lift" into Japanese characters, so we would use "lift" instead of "rifuto" for a title unless there's some special reason for it. That said, I do have an alternative to using "Neji-shiki Kinoko" - I found that the internal filename is lift_spin_kinoko in both games, so we can use "Spin Kinoko Lift" since that's more understandable. For the "Ice Seesaw Shroom", I found the internal filename for that as well - R_lift_kinoko_shiso - but in this case, I'd suggest not using it as the name. The reason is that it's just a revised copy of Seesaw Shroom - lift_kinoko_shiso - but with an "R" prefix that indicates an object new to New Super Luigi U (see "Luigi Block"). We might be able to use it as a reference point to change the title to "Seesaw Shroom (ice)" or "Seesaw Shroom (blue)", though - preferable the latter since calling it ice seems a bit speculative. LinkTheLefty (talk) 01:00, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
 * Challenges: Coin Collection Bonus Videos refer to Turning Floors and Pendulum Platforms (also the phrase revolving coins at one point). You'll know exactly what they are looking at the pictures since they're semi-common in multiple games. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:06, July 1, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Screwtop Shroom
We never translate Japanese names for titles. Policy clearly states we romanise them. 22:45, July 1, 2020 (EDT)

Re:mote-Control objects
So my usual method for inspecting Wii files via homebrew is somehow not working right now, but I can tell you what they probably are by looking at the filenames I have on hand (a shame because I wanted to take a closer look at the ice objects to make sure that Ice Chunk was not a repurposed object). Five .arc filenames starting with "remo" are remo_kanaami, remo_lift, remo_lift_line</tt>, remo_lift_soroban</tt>, and remo_lift_up</tt>. The fence is most likely remo_kanaami</tt> and I imagine the track platform is remo_lift_line</tt> (though it could just be the track itself). If you want Prima, the term "shifting panels" comes up consistently for the fence on pages 44 and 45, but it also refers to non-remote-controlled long fences as such in the latter and the track platform is just generically called a "platform" on page 142. As for Encyclopedia, the fence is 「リモコン金網」 (Rimokon Kanaami, RemoCon Wire Netting) on page 151 and the track platform is 「スイッチ式リモコンリフト」 (Suicchi-shiki Rimokon Rifuto, Switch-type RemoCon Lift) on page 150. The Encyclopedia names would be your best bet, at least until the filename for the platform can be verified. LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:10, July 8, 2020 (EDT)

That anonymous user
I'd probably advise against reverting that edit until that user gets blocked, because they're just going to put it back regardless. I've already reported on the admin noticeboard too.

RE: Toad Captain
"Lost Sea captain" would work since you sail his ship through it. 09:17, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

Revision sniping
Hey there. Please keep in mind to not cut in while a user is making revisions to a page. Even if you spot an error, if the other user is actively editing it's best to wait until you're sure they haven't spotted it themselves or not busy making further improvements. Thanks for considering.

11:08, August 5, 2020 (EDT)


 * Yo, please remember this. You been jumping in on people's editing recently, and it's getting annoying. To my recent memory, you have done this to me eleven days ago and now not giving Fawfulthegreat64 enough time to add her uploads to the gallery. Please give people time to make adjustments and finish what they are doing before you start jumping in and trying to help. I usually wait about twenty minutes for them to finish or notice their mistake, unless it's something very wrong, so you can try that. 12:40, August 24, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Quotes vs. no quotes in song titles
The CDs use quotes because that's how they're named in the inventory. 00:21, August 7, 2020 (EDT)

Flip Panel
Those are also in SMW and Sunshine. Thought that'd be relatively common knowledge o.o Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:35, August 10, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Flip Panel
One named "Flip Panel (Chain-Link)", the other "Flip Panel (platform)", since general type and series identifiers are inapplicable here. 00:29, August 11, 2020 (EDT)

Re:round 2
In order: For titles, I'd go with "UD Kinoko" or "Updown Kinoko" (may want a second opinion), "Switch Lift", "Sky Move Lift", "Updown Kanaami", "Hone Lift", "Elevator Lift", and "Mario Brothers Yuka", respectively. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:10, August 13, 2020 (EDT)
 * In the New Super Mario Bros. Player's Guide, the term "mushroom platform" is used on pages 72 and 73 for the World 5-4 platform, but that can be confused for the normal type. I'm not sure what its internal name is in the original game, but in New Super Mario Bros. 2, it is kinoko_UD</tt>, which presumably stands for "kinoko_updown" judging from other filenames seen below. 「上下に伸びるキノコ」 (Jōge ni Nobiru Kinoko, "Updown-stretching Mushroom") on pages 118 and 200 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.
 * The World 2-C platform that moves to the right when stepped on is lift_ride_move</tt>. 「スイッチブリフト」 (Suicchi Rifuto, "Switch Lift") on page 200 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.
 * The golden ship in World 5-A is lift_move_sky</tt>. It isn't individually labeled among the game's items & obstacles in Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.
 * The movable fence in World 5-Castle is kanaami_updown</tt> (regular fences are kanaami_line</tt> and spider webs climbable as fences are kanaami_spider</tt>). 「移動金網」 (Idō Kanaami, "Moving Wire Netting") on page 199 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.
 * The bony raft in World 5-Castle is lift_yogan_bone</tt>, also the same for its textures as part of the world map (CS_W6</tt> - incidentally, World Mushroom is CS_W7</tt>, World Fire Flower is CS_W8</tt>, and World Star is CS_W9</tt>). New Super Mario Bros. Wii and New Super Mario Bros. U consider the rail object separate. 「ほねリフト」 (Hone Rifuto, "Bone Lift") on page 201 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. - the English version calls it a "Spine Coaster" on page 201 based on the wiki.
 * The rising and falling World 6-B platform is lift_ride_updown</tt>, same with diagonal version that appears later in the level. 「エレベーターリフト」 (Erebētā Rifuto, "Elevator Lift") on page 199 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.
 * The orange platform also isn't mentioned in the New Super Mario Bros. Player's Guide, despite being shown on the level layouts on page 29. Again, I'm not sure what it's called in the original, but in New Super Mario Bros. U, it's, aptly enough, <tt>mario_brothers_yuka</tt>. 「マリオブラザーズ床」 (Mario Burazāzu Yuka, "Mario Bros. Platform") is the name of both versions on pages 119 and 217 of Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.

Doesn't take priority
Doesn't it? LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:39, August 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * There's what Doc said though, and that discussion still has the tag up. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:48, August 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * I see. I think there's a difference, though, in that both Arrow Lifts are platforms, whereas the Flip Panels are different types of objects? It wouldn't hurt to double-check with Mario jc just to be safe. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:31, August 19, 2020 (EDT)

It shouldn't, they're correct as they are now. Consider the popularity of the subject itself, not the source of the name. 01:10, August 20, 2020 (EDT)

Nail
What about the poundable nails in places like Puzzle Plank? Should those count? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:32, August 20, 2020 (EDT)
 * Ah, sorry, I was distracted with finishing a class video. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:37, August 20, 2020 (EDT)

Vandal report
I don't remember where the other "Super Mario 3D World Deluxe" posts were. Do you? 12:04, August 23, 2020 (EDT)
 * Okay, no problem. I'll check some talk page histories, but the report will just be removed if I can't find anything. 12:08, August 23, 2020 (EDT)

New things
Anything new with you about the wiki? Benjaminkirsc (talk) 15:26, August 25, 2020 (EDT)

Question about the Prima SMO guide
Is the panel with a key symbol which unlocks when you collect a key mentioned by name in the Super Mario Odyssey Prima guide? I know that it appears in the Cloud Kingdom and the Metro Kingdom, though I don't know where else if any. Thanks for the help in advance. 20:41, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
 * Thanks. I assume it's lowercase, correct? 20:59, August 26, 2020 (EDT)

Are you
So, are you going to create Big Shoes Gustin' in the Desert? I might create it tomorrow, but it's okay if you do it instead. 23:51, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
 * I'll do it in the afternoon (WST). 23:57, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
 * Ok, I guess you did it first. 14:25, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

Mario Kart
Thanks for the help on the Mario Kart (series) page. I'm not that good at editing. Polterpup (talk) 14:44, September 3, 2020 (EDT)

Thx
Thanks for adding most of the Henry Stickman references to the page. ^_^ 11:11, September 4, 2020 (EDT)

signature error
Any idea why it does this? -- 19:12, September 11, 2020 (EDT)
 * Maybe it's something in the signature section of the preferences. 19:17, September 11, 2020 (EDT)
 * Yep it was that simple. thanks.-- 19:43, September 11, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Know-It-All Toads
No one would search "Know-it-All Toads" to look for the one character in Colour Splash, so the identifier is unnecessary. The current "Know-it-All Toad" would need to be moved to "Know-it-All Toad (Paper Mario: Color Splash)". 10:54, September 18, 2020 (EDT)

PMSS Character Suggestions
Mainly according to the character section, here are some minor characters I feel may deserve their own articles. Would you approve? 10:51, September 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * The Toad found crying in Hither Thither Hill. He is escorted back to Decalburg, gives Mario a Mushroom and a hint about the windmill code.
 * The Snifit who hosts Snifit or Whiffit in this game and its successor.
 * The Toad found pushing against the sandstorm in Damp Oasis, not to be confused with the owner of the house there. After the sandstorm is over, he tells Mario about the nearby plaque and tries to find the secret of the Tablet Piece before him. He heads to Drybake Desert and is seen checking for a striped cactus as another clue.
 * The owner of the house in Damp Oasis, who provides Mario with the final Tablet Piece after it is cleared.
 * The curator of the Sticker Museum, who becomes trapped in the fountain at the beginning of the game.
 * The captain of Surfshine Harbor.
 * Swindler Toad, as I refer to him (I'll check the Prima guide in case) is a regular, red-spotted Toad with a blue vest. If it helps, he usually has his eyes closed. In fact, I think the only instance in which he doesn't is if you keep refusing his offers, at which point he just gets angry and leaves. Hope this helps! 20:48, September 21, 2020 (EDT)

The shopkeeper stuck in Whammino Mountain, though not as important as some, does feel necessary for an article, as rescuing him is actually required for opening shop. 19:43, October 13, 2020 (EDT)

Update / TBD
The project is going quite well. So far I have created Attack Piece Toad, the character who guides you on Attack Pieces in this game, Lookout Toad, the character obsessed with the scenic view, and Hoolo and Hoola, the engaged couple in Wakeport - I was pretty surprised to see they actually have names.

As for Pi'illoper's assisant/housekeeper, it was really hard to find him and he only contributes about three lines of dialogue - I also imagine it would be really hard to find a sprite for him, so I'll put that one off for a while.

As with the characters involved in the Wakeport training, I may review a walkthrough of that and determine which ones have distinguishing traits, although their locations should definitely be made known.

And as for the dreamy character counterparts, I gave it some thought, perhaps we should prioritize, at least for now, the ones who are confirmed to NOT be the actual real-world character. For example, Broque Monsieur is never really confirmed to be both, although both versions play an active role, whereas Big Massif is most likely the one encountered in his own dream sequence, in a similar manner to Dreamy Luigi in Luigi's own dream. The others could be created later, although a proposal should probably be started, if not already.

As for my next article, the character running the stand in Wakeport who also appears in Big Massif's dream to count the number of Hooraw Medals they receive, do we have an article for him yet?

And finally, if you manage to get your hands on a Prima guide for the game, would you please let me know if you find any confirmed names? 13:58, September 22, 2020 (EDT)
 * Thanks! If you have any more suggestions for characters for that game or other such games, feel free to add them to that one section of my talk page, or the miscellaneous section. 14:52, September 22, 2020 (EDT)

Melody
Regarding Melody, I don't believe one will take priority over the other. Luigi's Mansion and Paper Mario are both popular games, though the character may be more familiar than the item, thus a redirect. I think this should be discussed first rather than enforcing one person's decision. 23:20, September 29, 2020 (EDT)

Gold Bird
Thanks for letting me know! By the way, I do believe a new Ninji Speedrun was released today or recently - At the Croak of Midnight. 20:00, October 14, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Back Space
Best ones I can think of are "Back Space (fixed)" and "Back Space (random)", though you can always ask for better suggestions in the comments. 01:31, October 22, 2020 (EDT)

About Reverse Space
When splitting the articles about the reverse space, I was thinking if we split Mario Party 3 references, put them in the "Reverse Space (Nintendo 64)" and use current details from the Reverse Space article there. And then we should drop the Mario Party 3 references from that main article. Is that a good idea when split wins? Benjaminkirsc (talk) 13:40, October 28, 2020 (EDT)

Longer proposal
Why is the Wing Cap proposal taking a long time to finish debating? Benjaminkirsc (talk) 18:48, November 7, 2020 (EST)

RE: Foreign language
Well I already know that actually, but I'm just used to merging them into one if their pronunciation is the same (like in This one), while separating them into two if they have different pronunciations (Like in This one). EC2-Towards (talk) 09:29, November 14, 2020 (EST)

What? Why would you propose a deletion after discussing about it?
We had a discussion twice, the second proposal ended with a split with a result of 6-0. Think about the last proposal that we had and tell me why you want to delete the Back Space (Mario Party 3)? Benjaminkirsc (talk) 13:44, November 24, 2020 (EST)

RE: Pokey
That's suitable enough. 01:00, December 7, 2020 (EST)
 * Why not just use the Japanese name? It's official, and we can avoid the clunky identifiers. 12:39, December 7, 2020 (EST)
 * Because "Pokey" is still what NP called it. Personally, I'd go with the debut as an identifier if all else fails. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:43, December 7, 2020 (EST)
 * What about "Needlenose" then? I'm fairly certain even the Super Mario Advance 3 guide refers to it as "Pokey" too, but I don't have the time to double-check right now (may be misremembering at the moment but I'm almost positive it did something weird with Needle and Spiked Fun Guy). LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:50, December 7, 2020 (EST)
 * Yoshi Touch & Go manual had the Spiked Fun Guy mess up with the Tap-Tap. 14:34, December 7, 2020 (EST)
 * Checked for myself to verify to myself and "Pokey" is what NP uses, so I'll agree to the naming. idk about Needlenose, might check that later, but I'm not sure where in the guide to look for them. 01:34, December 8, 2020 (EST)

Hello Yello
It’s been a while, if I recall. How have things been lately? 15:50, December 8, 2020 (EST)

DIY Pages
Hello, you're descriptions for your recent pages Donut Wholes and Bulb Change. What do you mean by "It wasn't hard to figure out what this microgame was all about just by looking at its texture sheet in Spriters' Resource."? Did you look at actual gameplay, or did you only consult the sprites to write the pages? 19:14, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * I removed the gameplay sections from those pages, as guessing what the gameplay is based on images alone is speculation. Please base gameplay info on actual gameplay. 19:49, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * Admins have decided, that due to the pages being too stubby without gameplay sections, that they will be deleted soon. Please note that this amount of speculation and guesswork is not acceptable on this wiki. 19:59, December 12, 2020 (EST)

I considered it due to the writer's statement but I am waiting for them to get back to JC on the oft-chance they actually did proper dilligence on sourcing the content. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:34, December 12, 2020 (EST)

RE: Dungeon
Both should use identifiers. 22:23, December 21, 2020 (EST)

Nav template
I forgot about that proposal, thanks for the correction. 15:38, January 15, 2021 (EST)

About ground-pound switch
Check again on page 12, under Ground Pound in both manuals: "You can use a ground pound to break flooring with cracks in it or to activate a ground-pound switch (P18)." / "You can use a ground pound to activate a ground-pound switch (p. 20)." LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:32, January 18, 2021 (EST)
 * The same page that capitalizes it also capitalizes "Jump" and "Spin" above (and "Teleporter" below) despite being lowercase in most text. It's header stylization. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:39, January 18, 2021 (EST)
 * I'm pretty sure about this one since it's "ground-pound switch" in two sources: they clearly could have updated the text for consistent capitalization, but instead opted for consistent hyphenization. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:51, January 18, 2021 (EST)
 * What makes it an naming exception/error though? If it was the same text verbatim, or if it was missing from the second manual, then I can see where you're coming from, but both sections clearly show conscious edits. For that matter, I wasn't aware of pulse beam, but as far as I know we reflect common usage (text body, in-game/dialog, etc.) that might not exactly match listing style. For example, we don't capitalize every instance of "Frog" in Super Mario Odyssey because the game calls it a "frog" outside the capture list. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:14, January 18, 2021 (EST)
 * Not really, we just default to in-game spelling, which other languages support. Maybe we can point it out on the article but alternate/inconsistent casing is so much more common in licensed guides that I feel it'd be very messy if it were opened up on the wiki. I'd say redirects suffice in most of those cases. Anyway, I frankly don't have much energy to make or maintain any proposals anytime soon, so I'd appreciate it if you can get a quick admin opinion for now and maybe continue this discussion sometime later. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:04, January 18, 2021 (EST)

RE: Possible reference
"Can you dig it" is an actual phrase ("dig" meaning to understand or approve) and used in a number of song titles and lyrics. 22:15, January 21, 2021 (EST)

Edit got deleted
Hi Archivist Toadette, I just saw my edit on the Super Mario 3D World page, changing the subscripts to numbers in parentheses, was undone. Now, I don't want to make any accusations, but you were the first person to edit the page after me, so I believe it was you. If it was you, I would like an explanation of why, and, I do edits on other wikis too, and sometimes the admins do make me feel pretty stupid, especially when there is not a lot of sense in my edit. On the other hand, if you did not do it, you do not have to reply, and you may even block me for some time for wasting yours. (Just PLEASE don't make it permanent!)


 * Assuming this was the edit in question, it was actually who reverted your edit, not Archivist Toadette. As for the reversion, while the table could use improvement, your edit didn't really make anything more or less clear and conflicted with the information in the paragraph above the table. If you'd like to help with this, you can come up with a way to better handle the table design. Additionally, Archivist Toadette is not a staff member, nor would we block you for asking a question.  17:03, January 22, 2021 (EST)

Definition of a failed proposal
OK, I'm getting on your case for this two months late, but I only just now noticed that you had "corrected" the literal translation proposal as having failed. The proposer did not vote for the winning option, but that's not the same thing a failed proposal. A failed proposal results in NO action - read the legend: "Failed, no change was made." This proposal's outcome mandates a change - namely the complete nixing of a phrase from the wiki. 15:02, January 31, 2021 (EST)

RE: Bowser Jr.'s Journey overworld move names
Everything has the same names you said in the in-game guide (except "Body Slam" is capitalised). Not sure if this will be relevant, but Shell Mario and Balloon Mario are also mentioned and named as such. Keyblade Master (talk) 09:19, February 1, 2021 (EST)

RE: Fan
It can still use "(Super Smash Bros. series)" because the Paper Mario fan isn't from or commonly associated with that series. 19:44, February 3, 2021 (EST)

RE: Boffun
I've added a rough translation, though can I ask exactly how familiar are you with the language? Because a couple of your translations look like they were punched through Google Translate, this one (both the romaji and translation; Ma-sansunsun's romanisation was correct before you changed it) and especially this one (ドンドン would mean "quickly" in this case and はしれ means "run", so they don't mean "don't miss", nor would it make sense in the context). This edit was also suspicious. If you don't know, then you should know better than to attempt to translate them and risk adding inaccurate information. 05:15, February 10, 2021 (EST)


 * But you didn't answer the part about how much of the language you know. If you're not familiar with the language, just don't bother with the translations and leave them for others who do know it to do them. 22:17, February 10, 2021 (EST)

RE: Priority
The Bow character is much more popular than the Woolly World object. Checkpoint covers the general key mechanic in the series so it shouldn't be given an identifier over an object that's based on that mechanic. 22:57, March 9, 2021 (EST)

20th And Final Ninji Speedrun
Looks like the 20th and final Ninji Speedrun was just released. It looks like it takes place in the New Super Mario Bros. U style, with Castle as the main area and Underground as the sub-area. It's supposedly pretty difficult. If you find the time, would you like to make the article? 09:20, April 15, 2021 (EDT)

About Yoshi's Filenames
Yoshi's Woolly World (and, if I remember correctly, Kirby's Epic Yarn from same developers) has...utilitarian filenames (for example, the filenames in <tt>/content/chara/enemy</tt> all start with "EN" and have a number, each GFA has extremely generic component names, and so on), so they're unfortunately not really usable as far as I can see. I may be able to find the name of the accordian wall in Yoshi's Crafted World though, and if I do, I'll be sure to let you know. On a related note, is the "Winged Timer Cloud" named anywhere in the game? LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:49, May 9, 2021 (EDT)

About bouncing Tucks
Hold on, I really think that needed a discussion first before moving ahead. The English guide doesn't refer to them by name, so all we have to go on is the Japanese name. I'd refer to the Tiki Zing situation. Shared names in one language don't necessarily mean shared names in another language. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:40, May 14, 2021 (EDT)

Re:ropes
I did a while ago! You can find what you're looking for here. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:43, May 25, 2021 (EDT)

CS errors
I know a few more errors in CS and TOK if we're going to add them. Also, in the American French version, this line is "C'est le meilleur spectacle de l'île!", or "It's the best show on the island!" This correctly refers to Prism Island instead of Port Prisma. 17:32, June 7, 2021 (EDT)

My signature works
My signature fits in the  box now plese keep it the way it is now.

Pale Piranha
Hey, I translated the interlanguage tattles on that proposal, and it's really not just the names; the descriptions seem pretty adamant these are the same thing. I'd appreciate if you'd give it another look. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:18, August 22, 2021 (EDT)

What is IMO
What is IMO? Pierce Ng (talk) 19:59, October 2, 2021 (EDT)Pierce Ng

RE: Virus Buster
I already explained it here. 20:07, October 5, 2021 (EDT)

I used your signature.
I used your signature on a comment on my latest proposal to give you credit. Just saying because I don’t want to get a warning for using someone else’s signature.

Re:Hide-and-seek Toad
Page 83 states the following under Hide ’N’ Seek: "The little Toad with the blue cap near the Badge shop wants to play a game of hide-and-seek with the Bros. Mario and Luigi are a little pressed for time, what with Fawful theatening the Mushroom Kingdom with the tremendous power of the Dark Star, but they can probably spare a few moments to chase down the child. After all, he’s promising some kind of reward for playing with him: a Small Shell. The Toad tyke has five hiding spots. The heroes must chase him down in these sports in this order:" and then there are captioned screenshots that just show off his hiding spots. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:32, November 29, 2021 (EST)
 * Hmm. I don't really have any particular inclination here. Maybe open up a discussion on it and see what others think about it? "Tyke" doesn't seem all that common, I think. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:00, November 29, 2021 (EST)

RE: Restore
OK. 05:01, December 12, 2021 (EST)

Re: Missing Island Tour music
I'm assuming you're talking about tracks missing from most uploads, but are named on this Wiki. If that's the case, I guess people haven't been playing enough StreetPass Minigames. As for how I know them despite living in an area where StreetPasses were ultra-rare even during their height of common-ness? Well, I simply StreetPassed with myself. Which must be done 50 times, by the way. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">RickTommy (talk) 07:00, December 29, 2021 (EST)

RE: Note about in-game music
Thanks for the heads up on Mario Party: Star Rush. I'll be sure to keep in mind this information once I get to uploading media for that game after I finish up with Mario Party Superstars (though it'll probably be a while before I start MPSR).

As for Mario Party: Island Tour, I don't own the game (or any of the Mario Party games), so I'm not actually sure which specific music tracks (if they have names) would be exclusive to StreetPass. 16:06, December 31, 2021 (EST)

RE: Ending theme for Super Mario Bros.
As far as general names go, the only one I can find is its original title, which is "Ending BGM" (エンディングBGM) from soundtracks for SMB and Lost Levels. 07:38, February 24, 2022 (EST)

Was that really necessary?
[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Super_Mario_(series)&curid=121762&diff=3632616&oldid=3625587 Don't need to make mean summaries there. And yes, actually, I did think that, in vain it may have been.] Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:16, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Template creation
I created the DKP template, because once-canceled Star Fox 2 had a template before official release, despite being the game was unreleased media. 09:56, July 5, 2022 (EDT)

The 2003 one could theoretically have one, since for all intents and purposes it is a finished game. I'm not sure if it would be a good idea, though. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:08, July 5, 2022 (EDT)
 * The second iteration was before being reskinning into Banjo-Pilot. Read the TCRF. Windy (talk) 10:15, July 5, 2022 (EDT)
 * I am aware. And it was more elaborate a change than a simple "reskin." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:22, July 5, 2022 (EDT)

Japanese name of Switch Lift
Hi. Thank you for creating the Switch Lift article. The Japanese name in the "Names in other languages" section seems to have an extra ブ character, but it is absent in the romanization and meaning. Is it a typo? --Dine2017 (talk) 23:45, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Hello!
Hello! How are you? Quick question: is it okay to upload images unrelated to the Mario franchise on this wiki?Giga Cat Weegee (talk) 22:15, August 5, 2022 (EDT)

Okay, thanks!Giga Cat Weegee (talk) 11:48, August 6, 2022 (EDT)

Birthday card and notebook
Don't list yourself as the artist of something just because you scanned or photographed it. That makes it sound like you're claiming to have actually made the card/notebook. Just list in the source that you scanned/photographed it People can see who the uploader is by looking at the file history section, so that info doesn't need to be in the summary box. Unless, you know, you actually did make them yourself. 14:06, August 7, 2022 (EDT)

RE: Treble clef
Good evening! To be honest, I thought we already had an article about it. And while I do intend to make articles on the majority of objects, platforms and obstacles, I have little to no interest in improving or creating pages about items and other collectibles Spectrogram (talk) 15:13, August 9, 2022 (EDT)

TGAA2 spoiler comment
Hey there, my bad for not sending a message about this earlier. I redacted your BJAODN comment because another user who was planning on playing the game brought it up to me, saying they scrolled away as fast as possible once they noticed it, but they still absorbed some of it - they weren't expecting to see spoilers there, so completely avoiding them wasn't an option. Please be courteous regarding spoilers for unrelated games, especially for story-driven series where said info is likely not common knowledge/could impact other people's experiences. - Turboo (talk) 18:24, August 19, 2022 (EDT)
 * Our spoiler policy not applying to non-mainspace isn't the issue. The issue is that our spoiler policy only pertains to content within the wiki's scope - i.e. Mario content. If someone wanting to play Paper Mario: The Origami King decides to start reading Super Mario Wiki articles on it and gets spoiled, that's their own fault. Stumbling upon Ace Attorney spoilers on a wiki for a completely unrelated franchise where they have no reason to be present is entirely impossible to telegraph, so the "don't read" argument is unreasonable. 23:51, August 19, 2022 (EDT)

Sic
Good evening! [sic] was for the whole "ramped waterfall of lava", as it's called in the Prima Games guide, not just for clarifying that the pink liquid is lava. I didn't want to come up with a conjectural name for it :) Spectrogram (talk) 13:54, September 10, 2022 (EDT)
 * Also feel free to reply here!

RE: Daisy Garden
Hey thanks for your message. I think you have misintrupted the proposal that I made back in 2016. I never state anywhere in the propsal that it should only be only major recuring locations. I state in the title of thst proposal that "Split all remaining courts/boards based on recurring places from their parent articles" and again in the desription of the proposal of the "I propose that all these sports courts and party boards are split from their parent article". The use of the word "all" indicates that every single case of a sports court based on recurring location should be split. Also I simply use the term "recuring locations" which indicates that if its based on a recuring location of any kind it is split no matter how major or minor it is. I think when meant "major" you were referring the bit where I said Bowser's Castle and Luigi's Mansion were the biggest offenders and there I was only stating those as examples they were not every example.

Daisy Garden and Koopa Beach are both recurring locations. Daisy Garden is a recurring location based off the fact it has appeared in two games. Yes it was not a recurring location before Mario Sports Mix was released but was it was it became recurring therefore fits the definition of beinf based off a recuring lcoation. Koopa Beach was long a recuring loation before Sports Mix having appeared as as courses in the first two Mario Kart games. Therefore the proposal does actually mandate their split. The reason why i beleived i was able to split them without a discussion was because of the fact that this the proposal meant that policy now explicity stated that those acticles should be split therefore I felt i was allowed to carry out those changes without having to hold any discussions/proposals.

Adressing your points beleving they should be merged, I understand your points regarding Daisy Garden, yes they are very similar to each other but it's not the only court that has shared name between Hoops 3-on-3 and Sports Mix: Mario Stadium Luigi's Mansion, Wario Factory and Bowser's Castle remain split. The fact that have having some courts sharing names split and others merged is incontistent and therefore makes the wiki come arcoss as unprofesstional. In regards to Koopa Beach I am strongly belive that should remain split firstly the different names it is just Koopa Beach in Hoops whilst it's named Koopa Troopa Beach in Sports mix. Secondarily fact they function differently with Hoops 3-on-3 having the Priate Ship as its gimmick and Sports Mix having the waves.

If you beleive that the articles should be merged then I do suggest creating proposal of your own which would of if passed overturn elements of the 2016 proposal I made, changing the policy and allow these articles to merged. If you do choose to make the propsal may i suggest that you propose that all courts from Hoops 3-on-3 and Sports Mix that share their name with each other (ie the ones i mentioned in the paragraph above) to be merged not just Daisy Garden. I will be placing a oppose vote with my reasoning if you do create the proposal because i think they all are better off split but if the community sides with you and agrees that they should be merged then i will be happy with that I very much beleive this wiki should be a democracy.

I'm not going to revert the articles back to their split form right away. I will give you 48 hours to submit a proposal on merging the articles and if you choose to do so I will leave Daisy Garden and Koopa Beach merged for the duration of the proposal. If 48 hours passes from the time I submitted this message and no propsal exists or your happy to have the artciles split then i will re-split the articles.

I look foward to your response.