MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Remove Super Smash Bros. Melee trophy descriptions in Assist Trophy (Discuss) Deadline: October 10, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Make Most Maintenance Categories Hidden
An idea which was willing on my mind from long time ago. The Maintenance categories should be hidden from the categories bar on the bottom of each article. The categories bar on each article is only for main categories. Some readers may just want to navigate through the categories without contributing. And for any user that does want to see them, he could just navigate to his Preferences, in Appearance tab, down at Advanced options. Check "Show hidden categories".

List: (marked with * may need some discussion)
 * Category:Articles under construction
 * Category:Articles with conjectural titles
 * Category:Articles with long Trivia sections
 * Category:Pages with broken file links & Category:Articles with broken file links
 * Category:Citation needed
 * Category:Disambiguation -- It looks neater for Disamb pages to appear without categories
 * Category:Image requested
 * Category:Quality requested
 * Category:Merge Requested & Category:Split Requested
 * Category:Pages with media files
 * Category:Protection Change Requested
 * Category:Requested for Deletion* & Category:To be deleted* & Category:Talk to be deleted*
 * Category:Rewrite Requested & Category:Rewrite and Expansion Requested
 * Category:Stubs & Category:Section Stubs & Category:New Stubs

Proposer: Deadline: October, 7 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) -- Per Proposal, the categories bar should only contain real-articles related categories.
 * 2) Per Dardery.

Oppose

 * 1) I think that these should be easily visible so that editors can quickly see that changes need to be made and visitors can see what the problem is, so they don't get a bad impression of this wiki
 * 2) And for the ones that are willing to contribute, but does not have an account? What do we do about them?
 * 3) Per Mario7.

Comments
So, exactly why do we need to hide these categories? And wouldn't unchecking the hide option show categories that are hidden in the first place, adding more clutter?
 * So the categories bar doesn't get crowded with categories unrelated to the subject itself.. as for the second question, I don't think I quite understand it.
 * My question is that are there already hidden categories in the first place? You know, I'd like to know the amount of categories that are already hidden.
 * Nope! There are no hidden categories yet! any hidden category will automatically go in Category:Hidden categories which I will create as soon this proposal pass.

@Mario7 The problem can be easily seen by looking on the Notice Template which is mostly on the top of any page. And Editor can see them by checking the 'Show hidden Categories' option.

Like I said, there are also anons that are willing to contribute the wiki. Keep the hidden categories visible for them.


 * Most-to-All Maintenance categories can be seen in Maintenance, I purpose hiding them so the categories bar doesn't get crowded with them.. Taking Trick as an example, and you will see that there is 2 categories which aren't helpful in navigation at all. Look at List of Mario references on the Web and you would see that 3/5 categories are not related to the article just Maintenance. Imagine if this article was requested to be protected (which what I would just about to do, before Walkazo done it) and has media files (which what I will do soon), and it need a reference or two. That would mean that 6/8 of categories which will be hidden from normal view.
 * So? Anyone can ignore them. You don't need to hide them, especially when that means anons cannot navigate with the bar, as they don't have a preference page.


 * ِAgain, all Maintenance categories are found in Maintenance and Category:MarioWiki Maintenance

Removals
None at the moment.

Allow Users to issue warnings to IP addresses
User can issue warnings to other users, so why can't Users issue warnings to IP addresses? Just commenting on the IP's Talk Page to tell it to stop breaking the rules without a template is silly, adding templates and then the comment is a lot easier just like we issue warnings to users that break the rules.

Proposer: Deadline: October 10th, 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per Proposal. Also, if this proposal passes, this means we are not going to add the Block Template to the IP's Talk Page.

Oppose

 * 1) – Unlike registered users, a message to an IP isn't always directed to one person. Many different people may use an IP, so the warning hierarchy wouldn't work on IPs the same way it would on users simply because one person may unfairly hold behind them a wall of warnings when they didn't do it. It's much better to issue an informal reminder which serves as a "last warning" for any misbehavior, and then block them for an appropriate amount of time thereafter, rather than cluttering an IP talk page with templates.
 * 2) Per YK.

Pokemon, Assist Trophies, and the SSB Templates
As of now, we have three templates for the three games in the Super Smash Bros. series: },, and. All of these templates have various sections for their aspects, whether they'd be items, non-playable characters, enemies, etc. However, there's always been one peculiarity that's always bothered me: none of the Poké Ball Pokémon, nor any of the Assist Trophy characters, are listed in any of templates. We've made it a point of (trying to) list all of the stage hazard characters in the templates, but everything from Andross to Weavile has simply been absent, which seems rather inconsistent. Is there really any reason for keeping them out of the templates? Yes, just about all of the Pokémon/Assist Trophies are merged into articles, but that's why we have redirects (which is also aided by the advent of anchors), and most, if not all, of the stage hazards have also been merged. Really, the only question should be whether to give them separate sections in the template or to stick them in the NPC section.

Proposer: Deadline: October 3, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Add a New "Pokémon"/"Assist Trophy" Section to the Appropriate Templates

 * 1) The NPC section would probably get too cramped if we started adding the Pokémon and the Assist Trophies.
 * 2) Seems weird that this information is not figured anywhere.
 * 3) Per proposal and all

Do Nothing

 * 1) - Nav templates are for navigating between pages: tonnes and tonnes of links to the same list page (or two) will just clutter up the templates, making them look bad and hindering navigation to the other, separate pages. Just add one link to the Pokemon list page on the templates that don't have it yet (which is an oversight and doesn't require a proposal in itself), and folks can use the TOC to navigate the lists from there.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo. A template linking to the same page in 90% of its entries is not exactly useful. And, as she said, adding a link to said page wouldn't even require a proposal.
 * 3) Per Tucayo
 * 4) Per my comment.
 * 5) Per Walkazo.
 * 6) - Per Walkazo.
 * 7) - Per Walkazo.
 * 8) Per Walkazo.
 * 9) Per Walkazo

Comments
Personally, I prefer no listing Pokémons, or Assist Trophies, I feel it better when it just links to Assist Trophy and Pokémon articles. Instead of many unneeded links, just for listing. The articles has lists. And beside, I feel this does not worth a Proposal, not even a TPP.. I would stick with a, If I were you.
 * The proposal's already up, might as well roll with it. Besides, which talk page would I post it on, the Pokemon or the Assist Trophy? Also, how exactly are they unneeded?
 * You would put that on . Back with the discussing, I said unneeded because they would crowd the template with unnecessary list, while there is already an link for Assist Trophy and Pokémon, and those articles contains those lists already.
 * But my template is covering multiple templates (SSB, SSBM, SSBB). Yes, Assist Trophy isn't relevant for the first two, but the Pokemon are. Why does that even matter? Besides, there's already plenty of entries there. Why not the Assist Trophies and the Pokemon charcters? Let me put it this why: why should all the characters that appeared as obstacles (if even that) for a single stage be placed in a template, but characters that can show up no matter what stage you on and contribute greatly to the fight (Goldeen aside) be simply disregarded?