Talk:List of Mario games

How does everyone feel about a list of cancelled Mario games? Or even a list of famous hacked Mario games? -- Ghost Jam 22:32, 30 September 2006 (EDT)
 * I think Cancelled Games, as in unique titles and not moved titles, is a good addition, but hacked games (like Super Demo World, a harder hacked 120-exit version of Super Mario World) is user created and therefore a bad idea. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 22:40, 30 September 2006 (EDT)


 * Why not moved titles? One could add a note to the end what each game became, like on wikipedias List of Cancelled Video Games. Besides, most titles like that are alread redirected to the correct page (on this wiki). I agree with you on the point of hacked games. I was thinking more of Super Mario Bros. 3 Special and Super Mario World NES. -- Ghost Jam 23:31, 30 September 2006 (EDT)


 * I think hacked games should be listed on another page, or a section within this page. And I mean games that actually were released as game paks and sold. Red.Tide 11:17, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Technically, hacked/pirated games are considered fan games and if we start making articles about them, we might have to make articles on all fan games and... you don't want that, do you? 20:47, 6 March 2007 (EST)\\

I was talking about the ones sold for money, so actual commercially pirated ones. There's not that many of those, are there? But I somewhat agree, I don't want to write about all the crappy Game Maker and Flash games that feature Mario... Red.Tide 10:36, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Remakes
Do'nt remakes deserve there own articles, instead of just redirecting back to the original game? - User: Ultimatetoad

In a few cases yes. I don't think an extra article should be made just because a game had a few extra features. A few exceptions can be made, like DKR and DKRDS. 20:47, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Maybe as a side note in the main articles, and the name of the remakes being redirecting to the main article? --Stumpers

Virtual Console....
Seiously, there should be a list of Virtual Console games there. It looks better, and some people might want to know exactly what Mario games the VC has. ~LordKenny


 * Make it hap'n, cap'n. -- Son of Suns


 * Oops, thats not what I ment. I mean already released Virtual Console games. And sure, I'll get to work on that. ~LordKenny

Help
Um guys I see that the table list for the wii looks mess up??? Princess Butterfly 18:30, 13 January 2008 (EST) Is it vandalism

Oh yeah, I noticed that a while back. It was fixed in just an hour or so. Toad allstar

Yoshi's story
How Yoshi's story a Mario game? Mario makes no appearance. Princess Grapes Butterfly 20:17, 26 January 2008 (EST)  P.S should we remove it?

Yes, feel free to remove it. Should stay only in Yoshi Games. 21:12, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Super Mario RPG & other VC games
Super Mario RPG, along with Mario Kart 64 and Dr. Mario, and probably more games by now, (see link) have no confirmation. The only "confirmation" is that ESRB has reported that Nintendo has submitted them for rating. However, they might not all appear on VC. For all we know, Nintendo will have technical difficulties with these games, and they'll never show up. And they wouldn't count as cancelled games because Nintendo has not announced them officially. We should wait until they are announced by Nintendo or the official site for Wii and/or VC games.

Red.Tide 22:56, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Then, can you please remove it from the Super mario RPG article? Because on the article, it also says that it will appear in Virtual console See here. 17:11, 28 January 2008 (EST)

SSB
Was Super Smash Bros. released on SNES as well as N64? It doesn't say so in the article.

No... I agree with you, that is weird... 15:41, 7 February 2008 (EST)

Well, it was originally planned to be (along with Super Mario FX and Star Fox 64), utilizing the FX Chip, but all of them got canceled and revived on the N64. HyperToad

Restructuring release dates?
I think it's a good idea to change the way dates are written in the table from their current convention to one that would sort better. For example changing dates from "September 9, 1983" to "1983-10-09" or something similar. This would allow games to be sorted by date effectively using the table, making it easier to follow the Mario timeline on each console.

Any thoughts on this??

--Benchamoneh 15:07, 19 November 2008 (EST)

I could help...
I think I'm some kind of use because I know the release dates for Europe:
 * Mario Power Tennis Wii-release - 6th March
 * Mario Super sluggers - June 2009

A few notes on this page
- 12:43, 15 September 2009 (EDT)
 * 1) I'm unsure what to do with the Nintendo Power segment of the Game Boy Colour. I commeted it out for now. We could make a list of all those games released only in Japan, but we only have one release date for SMB Deluxe, but not for the entire rest.
 * 2) What to do about the e-Reader segment? Keep it as is? Change it?
 * 3) Why are no Wario and Donkey Kong games on the list, but Yoshi games even up to the completely main-series unrelated Yoshi's Story? Not to mention Smash Bros. games. Does this have any consistency?
 * 4) What to do about games that don't have pages anymore, like NBA Street V3 and SSX Tour?
 * 5) What about WiiWare, DSiWare and Virtual Console games? Should they be here or on their own pages?


 * Something is better than nothing, so all the Nintendo Power games should at least be listed.
 * The e-Reader segment should be formatted like the rest of the page, since it looks sorta bad as-is.
 * Since this is a "Games" page and not a "Mario Games" page, it would make the most sense to have all the sub-series titles listed here as well as the core games and Yoshi) - including Super Smash Bros.
 * If the pages were deemed unworthy (for lack of a better word) of separate articles, they're probably not true Mario games and would best be placed in the Video game references page instead of the Games page.
 * Virtual Console games are just re-releases, so leaving the page as-is (with linking to the VC page) seems alright. Games released on WiiWare and DSiWare, however, should be listed, since those platforms are as valid as the consoles and handhelds themselves.
 * Or at least, that's what I think - hope it helps! - 17:50, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

So should Nintendo Power games also be formatted the same way as the rest? (I agree on everything else) - 18:06, 15 September 2009 (EDT)


 * All Mario Nintendo Power releases are worth listing. There is a site called NinDB that has all release dates for the Nintendo-published Game Boy and Super Famicom titles. It is as private website, but the webmaster told that he found the dates at Nintendo Japan's now defunct Nintendo Power website, and I trust him. He knows his stuff.
 * Should be formatted like the rest. For the release dates, NinDB is helpful again.
 * I think all games should be covered there, including Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Wario, and crossover games.
 * Actually, SSX on Tour still has a (very short) page. I think both this one and NBA Street V3 deserve articles, since Mario, Luigi and Peach are full-fledged characters and even playable, but only with general descriptions of the games and what Mario references are in. No articles on unrelated sportspeople, places and so on (except for special places like Nintendo Village).
 * Agree with Walkazo.

--Grandy02 05:27, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

What I wonder is what all the Game & Watch games are doing here (see DSiWare). How are they Mario-related? Ndb looks helpful, I'll have a look at what holes I can fill. It won't help us getting Australian release dates though, which are currently the biggest hole on this page.

Also what should be do about the "other" section? Arcade & Virtual Boy are fine, but do we need consoles like Intellivision have the same table style? - 08:13, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
 * I brought up the Game & Watch issue here, I agree that they shouldn't be handled like "true" Mario games, except for those that belong to the series, but as mini-games. The only reason for articles on Helmet, Ball, Fire and so on is the inclusion in the Game & Watch Gallery series. On the Wario Land EU release date, the Finnish Nintendo website also has several EU release dates for 80s and 90s games, including Game Boy titles. It says April (like NinDB), so I think this month is appropriate. Hm, Australian release dates are indeed hard to find. I checked Nintendo.com.au in the Internet Archive, but found almost no dates for games released prior to 2002. That they replace the dates of released games with "Out Now" isn't helpful, either. Maybe it has simply been not documented for the public. We could at least write "Released" if an Australian release is known, for example if an Australian box is available at MobyGames (example).


 * Another question, which also affects other pages, is there a reason that the US are always the first column? The only understandable reason would be that most visitors are from this region, but in this way, Europe had to be the second column, since there are more users from there than Japan. In my opinion, Japan should be first, since most games are released first there and because it is also the country of origin of most Mario games. --Grandy02 12:56, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

You DO know how much work it would be to rearrange the columns now that everything has been filled in? If you want to have a different order, it'd be best if you went ahead yourself. I don't think that the huge amount of work that would be needed to change it way exceeds the benefit we would get from that.

I agree on putting "released" in the Australian column. - 07:07, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Okay, I know, just a suggestion. It is true that it doesn't change much with regard to the effort. Well, maybe some day. Anyway, should the "Released" for Australian releases also be put into the infoboxes in the actual articles? --Grandy02 07:48, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

Alleyway?
I didn't see Alleyway on this list. Shouldn't it be here? I mean, it is a Mario game, isn't it?. Originally, Mario wasn't in the game. To familiarize the game with Northern Americans, the box-art was changed so that Mario was on the cover. In the game itself, there isn't much mention to him. Still, I suppose this still counts as a Mario game, so I will now make a link for Alleyway.
 * I think it should have its article. -- 18:44, 12 January 2010 (EST)