User talk:Stumpers

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Some More Problems
I'll list out the problems.


 * I thought we agreed on no boxart (or release dates for that matter). Makes loading times slower.
 * The history section is redundant because obviously peaches grow on trees. Or any fruit for that matter. You might as well say on all fruit articles that they grow on trees. If an article is based off of something in real-life, only explain the features that are different about the generic item in the Marioverse. We could pretty much explain everything about Lava in the real world, that it melts things, that it is made from molten rocks, etc.. So a whole section explaining how Peaches grow is not good. The rest of the history section is better off being explained in the Appearances section.
 * What are alternate storylines? Does it have something to do with canonicity?
 * Why do we need to put it in table form? Although it does look nicer, it is horribly inconsistent with the other articles.
 * Why are there section for every single time peaches have been mentioned? Appearing physically in a game is worthy of its own sub-section, but just saying the phrase "Peachy" does not need its own sub-section. Probably belongs in a merged sub-section of the times it has been mentioned (also, what does saying Peachy have to do with the item Peach?)

Yes, the article will lose a lot of content if we apply these changes, but quality is always more important than quantity. 18:36, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Proposal
Hello. I just want to tell you I totally agree with what you said on the proposals page for the Bob Hoskins quote. The first 2 sections should be merged. I merged them but Time Q removed it. I put it back though. I hope we win. Toadette  4evur!!   *Let's just hope Time Q reads your comment before doing more editing*

'Mkay
Thanks, that version made since!
 * Your welcome (too).

Re: Brawl Video
I was talking about the location though.

Heh Heh (Did I Just Laugh?)
LOL, slingin' frenzy ahoy! I haven't played it in about a week and a half. I've got a real puppy (or rather my mom does...) and she's soooo much cuter than the lame, untouchable, mean, spiteful, funny-looking, I-won't-listen-to-your-commands, 64-bit aggravations called "Nintendogs". :P May they shrivel and die! Muahahahaha!

Different Timelines
The thing about your SMS and LM example is that their conflicting portrayals of King Boo can easily be explained by saying after his failure in LM he became depressed (or something along those lines) and that's why he looks more like a drunkard in SMS than a King. Then perhaps his second defeat shook some sence into him and he got back on the right track, hense his cleaned up appearances in later games such as Double Dash!! But that's nitpicking. As you said we should give our readers the whole story so they can come up with these sorta theories on their own.

The perfectly understandable reason for why the games are always given supremacy is because Mario started out as a videogame; became famous as a videogame; and long after all those movies, shows and comics have come and gone, it's still a videogame. Most people have no idea it was also a show and a few movies; I haven't even seen those cartoons (if I had I'm sure I could point out more issues than just Peach and Koopas' appearances but sadly I don't have that option), just the live action movie (by chance). For clarity's sake, it's easier to split the games, movies, comics and shows up; but I too feel it's a bit unfair to stick all the non-game sources into one conglomerate of "Alternate Appearances". In the case of Mario & Luigi's Parents the shows and whatnot are significant enough to make up the bulk of the article, but this is the acception, and as such seems a bit of an abnomality.

What I'm trying to say is that you're right that we should list everything and try to give it the importance it deserves. That means the games, being the core of the Mario franchise get supremacy, but the other media should not be swept aside. We should give the readers as much information as they need and let them scrutinize it, whether they're cross-examining the shows with the games (as I've been doing), or putting the screws to the games (which I've also been doing, though in a less in-your-face style in this particluar discussion). - Walkazo

RE:Mario Kart Wii Artwork
I got them from IGN!

Comic...Again
Sounds cool. You tell me when you wanna sign up any time! Oh, and you can use this:

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MKWii video
are u talking about the last video seen (the GDC 2008)? if it's so, i ve downloaded that video and i love it, I would love having that game NOW!

Hello Mr. Patroller
Hello Stumpers. Have you noticed something? You're a patroller! :D I would like to congratulate you! Congrats! http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif

You are now a patroller! You are well-worthy of your new status.

--Blitzwing 17:31, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Awesome! You're a patroller! I'm very proud of you! *sniffs and says "they grow up so fast!"*

Congrats!!!! P.S I supported your proposal. Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:05, 2 March 2008 (EST)

WHOA! YAY! WOHOO! *does a happy dance* HOW COOL!!!! Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!! ALL OF YOU! And no, I'm not going to forget the little people...! Thanks for the support, Princess, thanks for watching me grow up, Rooben, thanks for the kind words and support Blitzwing, and thank you Paper Jorge and DP for making me admit that I'd love to be one!!! You all rock my sox off! Even the people I didn't mention! *hugs the entire Wiki, including all the Peachycakes* 21:13, 2 March 2008 (EST)


 * Aww, that's so sweet Stumpy. *hugs back* http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif
 * Arrgghh, Hug fest. *hug everyone anyway* --Blitzwing 21:18, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Oof! I think one of the Peachycakes stole my wallet!  21:19, 2 March 2008 (EST) (first time I had an edit conflict on my talk page...)
 * I'm glad you're happy! *gives a big bear hug* You deserve this position, and I know you'll use your powers for the best interest of the wiki!
 * I certainly hope so! Thanks, Roob!  22:03, 2 March 2008 (EST)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Nuvola_apps_agent.png/32px-Nuvola_apps_agent.png
so a new patroller? excellent, I'm still watching some updates in MKwii I can't say congrats because other users have already said this one time and again ...


 * Oh yeah :O ? I didn't heard that. Let's see when could be that day... on the other hand, next week, I'll be more time here contributing. there are tests waitin' for me at the university, and you know...

ORIGINAL MESSAGE MINORLY EDITED BY BECAUSE OF WIKI GLITCH.

Hedgehog
In my opinion, it seems a bit too... Minor. Do we make an article on Hylian's because Link, Zelda, Young Link, Toon Link are in the Smash Bros. series? (I THINK Zelda is Hylian, I haven't played The Legend of Zelda. Also, I dunno if there are other notable Hylian's in the series...) But, this seems like something you should ask the public. After all, one man's opinion doesn't seal the deal. :)

Srsly. Wait, what was that about god's? MAN, I suck at Legend of Zelda. >.> Well, a crossover species page seems pretty good. Sounds awesome, actually! Why don't we find out what others have to say about this? :)

OK, I'll make the Proposal... When I'm not lazy, that is. :)

Srsly. I THINK it might have something to do with Coincollector's message header...

w00t, glitch averted. =P I think I'll make the Proposal now. =) HOORAY FOR BOREDOM! XD

DONE! I'm an idiot with Proposals, so, it really didn't come out that nicely. Oh well, we have profressional Proposers to fix that! XP I brought up a little note about the other Smash Bros. species, such as Polar Bear and Octorok, in case you want to debate about that... You like debates like that, don't you? :P

Debates are good! They solve problems. Its when they turn into flame wars, THEN its bad for you. :(

Perhaps. The Ice Climber and Zelda enemies from Super Smash Bros. Melee DID effect gameplay, so I guess they can stay as their own articles (but nothing's stopping us from adding a section on that list about them, and adding the Template to it. ;))  HELP! We need to scope out more crossover species that aren't article-worthy! :O

Let's see, you've got Hedgehog, Cat, Echidna, Fox, Crocodile, Chameleon, Rabbit, Bee... Most of the Final Fantasy characters are human, with the exception of Moogle and Cactuar. The Dragon Quest characters are the same - Mainly human, with some additional species added in. Pac-Man's species are called Pac?! I've been away from the series too long. o-O w00t, on a roll!

Howdy-Doo, Mr. Patroller-Guy!
Heya, Stumpers! How are things going in Patroller World? I realized we haven't talked as friends in a while (but we have talked on proposals), so I thought I'd see how things were going. :)
 * Sadly, I haven't played Brawl yet. :( My parents won't let me, and they say they're too tired to join in anyway. Hopefully I'll play it this weekend. As for the Birdo (species) article, it seems just about perfect to me; I haven't found anything to change. ...But I did fill in an empty link. I hope you like it. :)
 * Awesome! I was worried about it, 'cause I've never played any Strikers games, but it worked! It's nice that my parents play video games with me; it's one of our "bonding hours". Sorry yours don't. :( That stinks. And that's one awesome to-do list! I'll see what I can do to help!

R.O.B.
What kind of Sysop would I be if I lazed around and waited for other people to do the work instead of doing it myself? Its my job, dude! XP Glad I was of assistance! And thanks for alerting me. :)

LOL! XD Patience, my pet. XP

You've got mail
How is brawl with you? to me It's is Freakin awesome!!!

Hey
Hey Stumpers, I noticed something. In proposals and stuff, we're always on the same side. I have the same thing with InfectedShroom, but... it's pretty cool. Also, I was wondering, how old are you? You don't need to tell me. 10:02, 15 March 2008 (EDT) That's older then I expected. Are you in college? 18:11, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Just a hair away from it. Entering next fall.  You?  13:53, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Me? Seventh grade. 14:37, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh no, you voted against the Bad Jokes proposal, and I was going to vote for it. I don't want to ruin the record, so please convince me that the archive would be a bad idea. 14:37, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Pats
Hey congrats on being the wiki's new patroller!!!

No Im not a sysop but I wish I was :(

RE: Grandma
I've never played Super Mario RPG, so I really...woudln't know. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif
 * She was simply called "Grandma Toadstool", nothing more. - 19:25, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
 * That is in fact a question. I'd have to check. But it's likely. Super Mario RPG names all characters explicitely, dialogue boxes start with "MARIO: It's-a me..." or "TOAD: ..." when the character is named, thus it is also completely sure who is the character Toad in Super Mario RPG. - 21:23, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Idea
Hey Stumps I think someone use the idea you left at the sandbox. Check out Mario 's page. P.S You speak spainsh! Princess Grapes Butterfly 17:11, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

???
"Trogga: I'd hope you'd go more in-depth about what was the same and what was different regardless."

What do you mean? --Trogga 15:01, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Promotion
You have been promoted a Sysop on the wiki. Congratulations and keep up your work improving the wiki! - 15:04, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Congrats!!!!!!!!!! Princess Grapes Butterfly 16:02, 26 March 2008 (EDT) Good luck with your new post!

You became Sysop so fast! sobs... so, was the patrolller rank discontinued?

Aw your welcome Stumps. Princess Grapes Butterfly 06:27, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Congratulation! Well, I shouldn't be saying that since I and Booster also got promoted, but whatever. --Blitzwing 07:04, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Good Luck with your new rank Stumpers!!!!!! Oh and I wanted to let you know this. If an Sysop becomes inactive (Like going on hiatus for a lonnnnng time.) they loose that rank but its not forever. If the Sysop become active once more they'll get their rank back. (It happened to one user so I thought I should tell you.)Princess Grapes Butterfly 15:28, 27 March 2008 (EDT) :)

Image
On R.O.B., at one point, there were two Brawl Artworks on the same article. It was reverted by a sysop, for the reason that there couldn't be two of the same pictures on one article. Does this rule apply to Bowser? Many of the pictures in the gallery are found in the article itself.


 * Ok, I'll try. Thanks for the advice!


 * I made the proposal. Make sure you vote! :D

Dang.
I spent five minutes making a long and boring spech all about how much you deserve the new title, but accidantaly click Recent Changes. o.0 Anyway, I'm really surprised I haven't got to know you better. Probably becasue you're always making Wiki advancements while I putter about on the forum. Anyway, huzzah! You're a sysop!
 * OMG! You're a Sysop now! :D So happy for you. I was hoping all the patrollers would be promoted! :)
 * Hey, thanks! :D I'm still not sure if Mom (my teacher) is gonna let me have spring break, though.
 * More users, huh? I'll recruit some n00bs; their minds are feeble and will easily be molded to do our bidding! Muahahahahaha! XD
 * XD Soon...the world will be ours! Muahahaha!

Um, congratulations and all, but why was the patroller ranking removed? Was it because of the "patroller power" proposal? I liked it better with three rankings instead of just two. 18:21, 28 March 2008 (EDT) But it's still great that you're a sysop!

Oh... how nice. ( : 08:51, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Toon Link Artwork Change
Thanks ALOT for Toon Link's Brawl Artwork change on my Userpage. User:Falco Fan. 4:07 PM Sunday March 30th 2008.

Hey-O, Mr. Sysop!
How's it going? Enjoying the fantastic event known as "spring break"? :D
 * Ah, sleep. I slept until 11:30 this morning. I had such an exhausting day yesterday.
 * Hey, I was wondering when you joined?
 * Wow, that was a while ago! I joined in mid-December, '07. However, I joined as the password-loser in mid-November, '07. I'm still a n00bie compared to you though! :O
 * LOL! XD You're starting to sound like mah dad now! He calls his glasses his "eyeballs" 'cause he "can't see anything without them". He once came out of a bath and showed me he pruney hands and said "See? I told you I was old!" *No, Dad, you're wet from the bath.* "I must've been in the bath a long time then, 'cause my skin's all wrinkly!" ...I don't know why I even bother with him. @_@
 * LOL!! That was funny! Ghost Jam on life support...XD Hilarious, man! And when you said "or is he A GHOST", that really had me laughing! That would probably mean Wayoshi has an iron lung! XD But seriously, wasn't Ghost Jam like the first user to join here? Or SoS? ...*Life support! XD LOL!*
 * O_O That explains why he got Sysoped so quickly! XD I think I'm one of those "I-like-making-navigation-templates-since-they're-easy-to-make-and-I-get-lots-of-edits-in-one-shot-and-that's-why-I-make-them-so-much" people! XD
 * ZOMG! You're talk page sprung a leak! XD
 * Thanks! :D And, I've seen your work on pages; it's some of the best editing EVAR! I tried to do the rewrite thing with this article, but it didn't work out too well. At least Cobold helped and took the Wikidump tag off of it.

Hola Sysop Tanooki
Yo, how's it going, Sysop Stumpers? Normally, we talk about serious situations with less serious stuff added to the end or something... This time, its just a friendly "How are ya?". :P ...So, how are ya? XP Lulz, look at these edits. XP Oh, and check out this April Fools Joke that Jorge found. :P

I HAS NO REAL TOPIC! ;; I just wanted to randomly say hi... Besides, I barely do that anymore... Mainly cos' I'm too lazy to do so, unless its something important, SO TAKE PRIDE IN MY NO-TOPIC MESSAGE! :P Overkill, dude, overkill!... Just had to say that. XP Lulz, no problem. I have to help a "brother" out, of course! :P ...Ya know, that could become a part of Wiki Fanon! :O Lol, J/K. XP

Birdo
Help me out here, Stumpers. Birdoshi thinks she/he's improving the Birdo article, but she/he is making it worse. Look at the "personality" section of pure nonsense she/he wrote right in the middle of the biography section. Just look at this:"It is very similar to the Princess Peach and like example: to two they like the pink color." And she/he's uploading all of these random images that have no purpose, like this one [[Image:Birdo personality.JPG]. I don't mean to criticize her/him, I guess it's not her/his fault because she/he only speaks spanish and she/he typed the whole thing into a translator. But we really need to do something about it.  19:42, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Well I requested that the section be rewritten, that's the best I can do now. I translated a bit of it, but I can't do much ("An example is that in Mario Golf Toadstool Tour when Birdo gains the glass and gives their trophy him?" What's that supposed to mean? And"it yaws the eye to him to the trophy and the trophy falls in love with her and also in the games of Mario Strikers and Mario Strikers Charged it runs like a model and also in this same game in one of its animations of when she writes down a goal, to her they take photos him and because it puts for camara." It's all nonsense. And it doesn't only not make sense, but it's not professional encyclopedia language "And she's very affectionate (kissie, kissie!)" That just doesn't sound right. Well, that part she just took what you said and put it in. 20:44, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Oh mean the the (Kissie,Kissie) thing I though that was vadal so I remove it. (0_o I have no comment on that! o_0) Princess Grapes Butterfly 20:54, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Job Offer
I was wondering if you'd like to write for the Fake News? The travel guide is open, and for some reason I thought you'd like to do it? :) You wouldn't start 'till next month of course, but it's up to you if you want to.


 * Well, this pretty much sums it up. Even though it doesn't say for it to be humorous, it can be (preferably). You can also add the fakelinks if you wish, or I can do it; it's no trouble. So, do you want to join?
 * Er, two short paragraphs at the most. And it would be due every month, two days before The 'Shroom would be released, so I'd have time to put it in the Fake News.
 * Awesome! You're in! And you don't have to make an alternate persona if you don't want to, but it might add a cool flare to it. ;)

Nope
After explaining things to various users on the Baby Daisy talk page, I was left this message by Pokemon DP, "Yo, Fixit! How's it hanging? Just dropped by to tell you to cool down, please. I'm not warning you, nor am I lecturing you, I'm not even giving you a reminder. I'm just formally and politely telling you to calm down before you explode again, like here. Just trying to help, see ya!". When I replied saying I took offense to this, and that I was in my honest opinion not flaming anyone, I was sent this message, "OK, now that was just rude. I was trying to be polite and civil about this, but quite obviously, you don't understand that kind of language. So, I'll hit you back with what you just gave me. You were being an asshole on Talk:Baby Daisy. I believe calling everyone "brainless" merits as flaming, you brainless moron. You are so stuck up and arrogant, you can't tell when you are flaming or hurting others feelings. You don't care about anyone else but yourself; All your capable of when talking to Users who made a mistake is FLAMING!!! So STFU, and GTFO, NOW! Pokémon DP How does it feel?". Obviously the worst thing I said throughout this was calling a group of people brainless. A term even a child could brush off as offense-less. In return I was told I offended Pokemon DP, and that I was a brainless moron, and also an arrogant asshole. Oh, and I was told to STFU and GTFO to top it off. Now obviously, I know you two are friends, but quite frankly, I know this is not how a sysop should be acting to any user, and I don't want to be dealing with such vulgar language, especially towards me. I explained to DP that I took offense to what they said, and that they should leave me alone, but this is what I got. I know I've overreacted about things in the past, but this is ridiculous. Fixitup


 * I fully reviewed your response, Stumpers. If anything, I would accept a ban for the both of us, BUT only if DP is banned for a decently longer amount of time than I am. I may be considered to have flamed users by using the term "brainless", but the things DP used towards me were far worse than what I said. Also, even if I provoked DP in the slightest (in others opinions, that is), that doesn't seem to justify what he said. (at least not unless I told him to say it to me, which I obviously didn't) So, if it comes down to it, I will accept a ban as long as DP is given a ban of a longer period of time. (and I don't mean by hours) You might want to ask, "But why would you want to be banned for any period of time?". Well simply put, to show DP that he can't get away with acting like that towards anyone without penalty. Fixitup

And this is why you PWN! Honestly. :P

And you're pretty damn good at your job, as well. Your comment seriously opened my eyes to how horrible my comment was (OK, I knew it was bad... But I considered it justified... Yeeeeeeeeeeah, not anymore. :P). I hope everything is back to normal.

Flick through my archives, I've been in trouble before. :| Meh, I don't let it bother me too much.

Wait, wut?

Oh, I see. That was a really crazy story, dude. o.o I've heard A Link to the Past was a very short-fused User, anyway. I've heard a lot of bad things about him, actually. I don't think it was much of your fault, but more of his. ENIWAI, thanks for settling the dispute earlier. G'night! (even though its Afternoon here. :P)

DP's comment seemed way more offensive to me, so I gave him a bit more time. Fixitup should get a week or more next offense though, so he should shape up right away. 19:49, 10 April 2008 (EDT)