Talk:Baby Yoshi

Are You Kidding?!
Are you kidding?! The Yoshis in Yoshi's Story are tiny!!!

They grow up to adult if they eat any item, try to do it with a mushroom or feather.

The Yoshis in Yoshi's Story aren't Baby Yoshis. --Xeze 13:31, 13 February 2008 (EST)
 * They are. The intro refer to them as such. --Blitzwing 13:47, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Merge to Yoshi (species)?
The information on this page doesn't necessarily merit an individual article. Baby Yoshi aren't a species, sub-species, or even a form; they're simply infant Yoshi. This article amounts to no more than a list of appearances of infant or child Yoshi in different media, but dresses it up in a flashy way with lots of pictures. A similar issue was brought up and proposed not too long ago, about knowing the difference between characters as infants, and the Baby characters. The two are not one and the same, and this was understood and the two separated per that proposal.

Because of all this, I feel the relevant information on this page should be merged into the Yoshi (species) article. It would fit appropriately under the Biology section, and result in a much more comprehensive article on the subject. It should also be noted that none of the images found on this page would be lost due to this proposed merge. In fact, all the images are taken from other articles for the purpose of filling up this page. Nothing serious will be lost, except for a list, if you find that important.

Proposer: Deadline: March 15 2010, 23:59

Merge to Yoshi (species)
 * 1) - Per proposal
 * 2) Per Redstar. I split Blue toad for you FYI.

Leave un-merged
 * 1) I am Zero! I changed my mind, Baby Yoshis seem to have a slightly different role in mario games then regular yoshis. Zero signing out.
 * 2) The same could be said about Baby Mario, Baby Luigi and the like.
 * 3) Baby Yoshi is treated like a separate character in some parts of the article. Merging a "separate character" with the species sounds strange.
 * 4) Baby Yoshi is totally different from regular Yoshi.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) - The article needs improvement, sure. But It should not be merged, as the Baby Yoshi is a rather different form of Yoshi, especially in SMW.

Comments @Reversinator, LeftyGreenMario, and Supermariofan14: You all seem to think this proposal is about merging Baby Yoshi (character) into Yoshi (character). This is not what this proposal is attempting to do. It instead attempting to merge the infant stage of Yoshi into the Yoshi as a race page, which covers biology. Infant Yoshi are a stage in Yoshi biology, so keeping the information unmerged is needless. This proposal is nothing like merging Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, etc. into their adult forms. Redstar 19:49, 2 March 2010 (EST)


 * Well, I still stand up for what I previously said, Baby Yoshi is a character.

I'm not participating in this proposal because the Baby Yoshi article is like the Metal Mario article before it got split and the Yellow Toad article.
 * @Supermariofan14: Umm, no. Not every infant Yoshi is the character Baby Yoshi. Redstar 01:08, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * No, but all the babies are still characters, and should be treated equally.
 * That's not really true. This article is about the biological state of a Yoshi as an infant, not a collection of information on infant Yoshi characters. They can be treated "equally" on their respective articles; not here. Redstar 04:45, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * And the other articles are about the biological of the other characters as infants. See, concistency rules here.
 * No they're not. What are you talking about? Redstar 15:00, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * Baby Mario is not the biological info of Mario. Baby Mario is a character that stars in Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario and Luigi: Partners in time, Yoshi's Story, etc. Baby Yoshi now describes part of the Fearsome 5, the star child in Yoshi's Island DS, the biological info of Yoshis, etc. This is like the Blue Toad article before it was split.

If the info on the biological "Baby Yoshis" was merged with the species article, wouldn't the same have to be done for Baby Blooper, and any other such pages? - 19:29, 7 March 2010 (EST)
 * Well we did it for Blue Toad.

Okay, has anyone that has voted against merging even read the proposal? Do any of you know what the proposal is attempting to do? From your vote comments it seems none of you do. Redstar 03:42, 11 March 2010 (EST)
 * I do, and my reason still firmly stands.

Merge relative info into Yoshi (species), Little Yoshi and Fearsome 5
As Redstar states above, we need to merge info where Baby Yoshi was considered a species. But, in Paper Mario, there was 5 baby yoshis called the Fearsome 5, and In Tetris Attack, there is a yellow Little Yoshi. The info can be merged into the respective articles. Sections are split into:
 * Yoshi (species)
 * Super Mario World
 * Yoshi's Story
 * Little Yoshi
 * Tetris Attack
 * Fearsome 5
 * Paper Mario

Proposer: Deadline: March 17 2010, 23:59

Support

Oppose
 * 1) Little Yoshi redirects to Baby Yoshi and the Fearsome 5 are very important characters and have a lot of info. If we do this, then we'd have to merge all the Glitz Pit Battle Teams into their respective articles, such as Craw Daddy.
 * 2) Per Gamefreak75.
 * 3) Per Game.
 * 4) - The article needs improvement, sure. But It should not be merged, as the Baby Yoshi is a rather different form of Yoshi, especially in SMW.

Comments Why did you make this proposal when mine, just above, is proposing essentially the same exact thing? Redstar 01:08, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * No it isn't. It is going to merge the Paper Mario info into the Fearsome 5.
 * The Paper Mario section of this article wasn't covering the Fearsome 5 as characters, but by their role as baby Yoshi. (If that isn't entirely clear, then the section should be re-written to make the coverage of that role more obvious)


 * In any case, my proposal only received its deadline today, so it was well within its limits to be amended or expanded. You could have simply asked rather then make another too-similar proposal and confuse any potential voters for either. Redstar 01:19, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * But aren't there many baby yoshis in the Fearsome 5???
 * That's kinda the reason why they're mentioned on here. Redstar 01:31, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * This is Baby Yoshi (character), not baby Yoshis.
 * No, it's not. The main focus of this article is on infant (baby) Yoshi, not Baby Yoshi the character, whom is a Star Child. Information on both are on here because Baby Yoshi (character) doesn't have enough information to hold its own. Redstar 01:40, 3 March 2010 (EST)

Subject of the article
ForeverDaisy's attempt to remove the section on the cartoon raises an interesting question: what exactly is the subject of this article? The introduction and most of the sections seem to indicate that the article is meant to cover the biological aspect of a Yoshi in its infant stage, and how infant Yoshi are depicted in various media.

However, some of the sections (such as the above mentioned cartoon section) are written with the focus more on the character rather than the presentation of the character's biology. I think we should re-write the article to avoid this focus on the characters rather than the biology; however, as per my above proposal, more than a few people seem to think this article is about Baby Yoshi (the character) rather than infant Yoshi. Any thoughts? Redstar 22:31, 4 March 2010 (EST)

I don't get why you undid the edit then. ForeverDaisy09 23:13, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * Because it was an example of an infant Yoshi in the cartoon. Rather than simply being removed it should be refocused. Redstar 23:17, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * No, it is a section about Yoshi from the cartoon in baby form. The mentioned proposal made it so that baby characters from cartoons could not be associated with video-game counterparts. ForeverDaisy09 00:21, 5 March 2010 (EST)
 * You're not getting it. This article is about the biological state of infant Yoshi. The character Yoshi was an infant in the cartoon. That section is meant to point out the characteristics of an infant Yoshi in the cartoon, of which the character Yoshi is the only example. Rather than being removed, it should be refocused to make the example more clear along the lines of the articles subject. Redstar 00:52, 5 March 2010 (EST)
 * Uhh... the Baby Yoshi in the cartoon was the infant version of Yoshi too.
 * That's exactly my point. Redstar 04:20, 12 March 2010 (EST)
 * Ohhh. I get what you mean. Yeah, I agree with Redstar.

Split from Baby Yoshi
Some sections explain the Baby Yoshi as a species (like the Super Mario World one), and this article should only explain the characters Baby Yoshi. There was a proposal splitting the Yellow Toad page, and this is the exact thing I am doing here.

Proposer: Deadline: 21 April 2010, 24:00

Split info that is about the species
 * 1) The Yellow Toad species sections were split, why not this (Super Mario World section, Yoshi's Story section, etc)

Keep merged...
 * 1) I'm pretty sure that there is no "character" Baby Yoshi.

Comments @Homestar Runner: I'm pretty sure that there is a character named Baby Yoshi (Yoshi's Island DS hello).

@KS3 There are no Baby Yoshis in Yoshi's Island DS!
 * Yes there is; at the end of the game, there is a picture of Yoshi hatching from an egg with a star on its head. It's probably just a small appearance, but it's there nonetheless. Now, don't respond to really old comments as this person wasn't active since forever. 22:21, 10 November 2013 (EST)

"Paper mario series" section
Do we really need that? 23:57, 14 May 2010 (EDT)

Why not?

Baby Yoshis appear both in Paper Mario and Paper Mario: TTYD. Yes, we need it. Killer Axe

Green Baby Yoshi NSMBU?
Is there gonna be a green baby yoshi? http://yoshigo99.deviantart.com/art/Baby-Yoshi-307128038 <--- Comment and Rate -- 07:43, 23 June 2012 (EDT)

That is just fan art. The user states she made it herself.--LuigiBlubber (talk)

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
In the Italian version of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door it is confirmed that the Yoshi there is a Baby Yoshi, as he is defined as a MiniYoshi, with the explanation that MiniYoshis are Yoshis that just hatched from the eggs (you can read the translated text of Wonky's tale and its source in the talk section of that page). Since he also shares the same Japanese name of Baby Yoshi in that game, should a section about him be added here?

add Mario’s FUNdamentals to the list of games baby yoshi is in.
on https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario%27s_FUNdamentals the link to yoshi under checkers leads to here but there is no section talking about the game. the baby yoshis are on the checker board btw

Should Baby Fat get their own article?
I think Baby Fat is an individual character like how the Fearsome 5 are individual characters. Thus, I think they deserve their own article like Boshi and the Village Leader. There is plenty that could be typed about them. I have multiple proofs. To begin with, Exhibit A shows an example of the most barebones hypothetical Baby Fat page which is about equal in size to the Muku Cookie article. Exhibit B shows an image of the article in question for purpose of comparison. Additionally, there's plenty of information that could be added to the article to expand it. Adding sections for Quotes, Names in other languages, and Trivia could add extra room. A History section that showcases images of Baby Fat on Yo'ster Isle could talk about what items can be gained from Baby Fat and how many Yoshi Cookies are needed to acquire certain items. Finally, more information would be added to the article when the Switch remake is released like "latest appearance: Super Mario RPG". In closing, though it would require the deletion of the Baby Fat -> Baby Yoshi redirect, I seriously think Baby Fat should get their own article because there is more than enough information to sustain it. I would like to hear what you guys think on this matter. If there is major disagreement about what should be done, I will set up a proposal for this topic. I'll check back in tomorrow to see what you guys think.-- 23:57, August 13, 2023 (EDT)
 * "Baby Fat" is only named by a single guidebook. Other sources treat it as a standard Yoshi/Baby Yoshi. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:03, August 14, 2023 (EDT)
 * Meme cred aside, 'twould be best to wait for the remake. LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:10, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

K. If Nintendo refers to the fat Baby Yoshi in Super Mario RPG by a specific name e.g. Baby Fat, Fat Yoshi, etc. in a trailer for the Switch remake or in-game (when it releases), then we should revisit this topic.-- 12:52, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Regarding my last comment, this is what the article could look like if the yoshi is given a name in the Switch remake-- 01:15, August 16, 2023 (EDT)