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One hidden block missed
When I played Paper Mario some months ago, I remembered to have found a hidden coin block in Gusty Gulch, in a house on the north side of one of the two places where Boos live. Yet it doesn't seem to be in the article "List of hidden blocks in Paper Mario". Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 08:10, 28 March 2015 (EDT)


 * Ah, yes, I actually had that one in the guide but I removed it when, upon closer look, was just an ordinary block covered by most of the house's walls rather than an invisible one -- which is what the list only covers. --Zootalo (talk) 11:10, 28 March 2015 (EDT)
 * Ordinary? Oh, I see. Sorry. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:49, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

Icon request
Hey... Can you help with this table? An icon for the Cleanser is needed there, but there isn't an icon for that on this wiki. It can probably be found on this sheet from the Spriters Resource, but I don't know which one is. Thanks! Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 23:46, 4 April 2015 (EDT)

In the batch of sprites on the left in that sprite sheet, it's the small purple bowl with green fluid in it. Hope that helps! --Zootalo (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Thank you. By the way, nice work for catching that Shooting Star! Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 07:19, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

Edit history
Don't edit a single page many consecutively like you did to the Paper Mario bestiary page. This floods the edit history. If you have to make a big edit, do it in one large edit. 17:57, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
 * It's not that big of a deal. If you know that you're going to make multiple edits to an article, it'd be helpful if you mark them as minor, but the Paper Mario bestiary edits are fine. There was at least twenty minutes between the edits, and you only did about three edits in a single day. It's obstructive for the page's history, but with big projects like what you're tackling, it sometimes can't be helped.


 * Well, I don't know why you guys didn't tell me this earlier; I would've made all those edits on my Sandbox instead, or offline if even that chokes the history there too. No one had an issue with this when I redesigned the Super Mario RPG bestiary and made quite a few edits on the page as well, so I didn't think it'd be too big of a deal. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up. --Zootalo (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

Badges
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about the colours myself. It took me forever just to actually get it working, and the colours were a bit of an afterthought. Feel free to make changes as you see fit. One question, though: where did you find the drop rate for All or Nothing?
 * Yeah! A new project, that would be fun! By the way, since each badge's gonna have its own page, it'll be unnecessary for the Badge article to be cramped with lots of info. Merluvlee's predictions (which I added) can be moved to the corresponding pages. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
 * It would be better to name the "Merluvlee's predictions" section just "Hints", because other characters can also give hints, like Tolielip and the Toad in the first house in Dry Dry Outpost. (By the way, do you know the Toad's name?) --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:18, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
 * I'd say to keep doing both. The fraction shows exactly what the game is taking into consideration, while the percentage gives a layman's explanation of the fraction, so to speak. Having both is certainly helpful.
 * This may be just me being dumb, but on your drop rate charts, the percents seem to be a bit weird: for example, on Jumpman (badge), the drop rate of 2/300 is listed as being 0.66%, but wouldn't it actually be 0.0067%? I mean, I'm assuming you're dividing the numerator by the denominator, in which case those two zeroes can't just disappear + you need to round your last decimal up since it's a six. Just dropping by with your recommended daily dose of math!
 * That "times 100" bit isn't actually present in the chart, though: taken at face value, people are very likely to interpret their chance of getting the badge as 0.67% and not 0.0067%, which can have a genuine difference. It might be "neater" to not have those zeroes, but it's also incorrect, and I say it's better to have the actual information than to potentially confuse or misinform readers.
 * You'll be achieving the same thing with more text, and personally, "0.67/100" isn't something I find particularly neat or better than just the percentage, though part of that's personal bias. I'd find it simpler to keep the percentage.
 * You're still doing it. As I've said, your extra calculation of times 100 has a good chance of being misconstrued, so I recommend making changes.

Drop Rates
Any idea how I could calculate the drop rates for Paper Mario items? Binarystep (talk) 00:27, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Would it be possible to make a rough estimate based on how many enemies out of [some number] drop [whatever item]? Binarystep (talk) 00:59, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
 * I actually started something similar to that a while ago, it's still a work in progress of course, I have a long way to go (especially with Amazy Dayzees, though they may just have the same drop rates as Crazee Dayzees?). Binarystep (talk) 02:01, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

Charts
I'm going to say with certainty that creating individual pages for differing NA/EU/JP stats is a bit too excessive. If you're going to do anything to the bestiary charts, I'd suggest, if possible, trimming some of the blank space around the text, because that's definitely eating away at the space and would potentially free up space for other stuff, though considering the size of the text already, I wouldn't recommend shrinking it. I'd be fine with keeping the charts on the same page, though that's mostly just personal preference.

Archive
When moving talk page content into an archive page, you move all of the posts on that page into the archive because when you did yours, you only moved most of the posts. 22:13, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

Question
Any idea how much damage the Bowser's Snow Fort (optional boss) Shy Guys' attacks do? I only got to record one of their attacks because I was an idiot and blocked the other attack every time it was used, and only realized this after killing them. Binarystep (talk) 21:51, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

Star Piece GIF
I've made this GIF, but unfortunately it can't replace the PMStarPiece.png you uploaded earlier. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
 * MediaWiki gives a warning if uploading a new version of a PNG file if the new version is GIF. By the way, I'll update the "Items Found" sections in the following weeks, so you can leave the job to me.Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:25, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

Paper Mario Bestiary
Hello, it seems that you contributed a lot to the article "Paper Mario Bestiary". I'd like to know, are you sure if the list of items dropped by enemies is comprehensive, so that I can make my "items found" project more accurate? If you aren't, I'd better just mention that "items can be dropped by enemies", instead of listing them. --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:58, 11 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Hello? I've replied on my talk page. Am I supposed to reply here? (BTW, I certainly won't make an excessive table.) Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:36, 11 May 2015 (EDT)
 * In the last sentence above I meant to say "I won't make another table in the 'Items Found' sections." Sorry my English is not good.

table layout
It seems that you are good at making tables. I plan to redo the table of the article "List of Star Pieces in Paper Mario". What do you think of this design?

--Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 10:25, 16 May 2015 (EDT)


 * I encountered a problem: If you put this table
 * {|bgcolor=#B9B2E6


 * valign=bottom|[[File:MerluvleePM.gif]]||blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
 * }
 * into a "mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate" table, it will lose its background color:
 * {| style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse; font-family:Arial;" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"

! colspan=2 width="6%" height=50px|Area ! width="15%"|Star Pieces ! width="3%"|Screenshot & Quotation
 * -style="background: #ABC;"
 * colspan=2|Goomba Village [[File:PM StarPiece.gif]] x 3
 * At the end of the sideway on the northwest road.
 * PM Star Piece GoombaVillagePlatform.png
 * }
 * Do you know how to deal with this problem? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 20:58, 16 May 2015 (EDT)
 * One workaround may be
 * {| style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse; font-family:Arial;" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"
 * {| style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse; font-family:Arial;" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"

! colspan=2 width="6%" height=50px|Area ! width="15%"|Star Pieces ! width="1%"|Screenshot & Quotation or Do you like this?Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 21:17, 16 May 2015 (EDT)
 * -style="background: #ABC;"
 * colspan=2|Goomba Village [[File:PM StarPiece.gif]] x 3
 * At the end of the sideway on the northwest road.
 * PM Star Piece GoombaVillagePlatform.png
 * }
 * }


 * I think that the extra border makes it harder for those who don't want to read quotations to skip them. I added a color block (■ ) to prevent the words " Merluvlee's Prediction " from appearing alone, which looks distracting since it's over white background. Adding a color block makes the reader know which area to skip (white, light, dark), but adding a border makes these areas eye-catching again (white, dark, light, dark). Other changes you did are fine.
 * I also added some space to the last column to make it look less crowded. By the way, do you like 300px screenshot or 250px? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 23:29, 16 May 2015 (EDT)
 * {| style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse; font-family:Arial;" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"

! colspan=2 width="100px" height=50px|Area !width=auto|Star Pieces ! width="300px"|Screenshot & Quotation
 * -style="background: #ABC;"
 * colspan=2|Goomba Village [[File:PM StarPiece.gif]] x 3
 * At the end of the sideway on the northwest road.
 * }
 * I fixed some browser-dependence problem in the chart above. Thanks for your suggestion, I'll implement it next weekend (when I'll have Windows and a big keyboard) along with other improvements. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
 * }
 * I fixed some browser-dependence problem in the chart above. Thanks for your suggestion, I'll implement it next weekend (when I'll have Windows and a big keyboard) along with other improvements. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Unused Data in Sticker Star
Do you know how complete the unused enemies in Sticker Star (such as Ptooies and Lakitus) are? Binarystep (talk) 01:43, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Alright, I was asking since I can't seem to find much about it anywhere, and I have no idea how I'd go about digging through the game myself. Binarystep (talk) 01:52, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Badge page
I actually won't work on Badge pages for a while, and I think it would also be nice to have Merluvlee's prediction on a collapsible section of the chart on the right of the page. Anyway, good luck on writing individual Badge pages! I plan to do a PMTTYD Star Pieces / Shine Sprite list after finishing the PM one. --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:33, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Template
Personally, I don't think the template's necessary. It just seems like it's complicating something that's easily done with a set of italics and quotes, and I find that any sort of template is simply too gaudy. It's not as if any of the minigames need templates for their descriptions, right?
 * Considering you've already set up tables for the drop rates (and it's probably the most convenient way to neatly display the information), if no other reason than to simplify things for people in the future. You'd probably want to ask someone else to create it, though; most of my code is copied from other templates, and then I spent the next few days messing with it until I get something that sort of counts as "presentable".

Friends
I know I dont really know you, but I was asking if we could be friends? Here's my Userbox:

P.S.- You make good tables! ShyGuy8 (talk|contribs) 23:33, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Paragoombas can drop Mushrooms
I caught sight of a Paragoomba dropping a Mushroom in Paper Mario! --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:43, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

star piece and shine sprite list
You are going to do the pmttyd ones? OK, I'll leave it to you. --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:20, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
 * I was originally going to take the screenshots from the 100% run on Twitch. So I'll have no trouble. By the way, do you mean you want me to leave it to you? I actually haven't started yet.--Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:31, 23 May 2015 (EDT)-
 * Sorry, my English is not good. Does "I'll get going on my stuff soon, then" mean you want me to do it or you want to do it yourself? (Note to admin: sorry to have done so many userspace edits) --Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 00:44, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
 * By the way, I have adopted a different file naming scheme. You might have noticed that I renamed the screenshot you uploaded earlier. Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:22, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Thank you, but I'd prefer to avoid the "You got a Star Piece" message whenever possible. If EVERY screenshot contains that message, the resulting page will be distracting. Also, my naming scheme is readily here, but you named them yourself. I'll change my file links soon, but when uploading new one, please do so by clicking the links on my sandbox,ok?--Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 20:30, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
 * By the way, if you are before Chapter 1, can you help me replace File:PMTTYD Star Piece PetalMeadowsBackground.png with a one in which mario stands next to the piece instead of retrieving it.?Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 20:39, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Well, the three screenshots you uploaded are fine, actually. But I want to do the job alone (unless I asked for help), this cuts down the collaboration efforts and inconsistency of the resulting screenshots.Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 21:20, 23 May 2015 (EDT)

"Another gossip loving toad" asked me to deliver you a message:

Hello. MarioWiki is blocked in Сhina, again, which is why I was not online in the last two weeks. I don't know if there is a chance that Сhina will unblock this site, so I may have to say goodbye (or farewell).

By the way, please help me publish the stuff in my personal sandbox to leave it to others to finish it. Thanks ! Also, in the sp list, I found that putting all the quotations in a single section below can eliminate the need of those collapsible boxes.

Note: I am his friend who uses a different ISP and I can access this site.

P&DSMBE World Maps

 * That's going to be a long and tedious task, and I don't have ALL the worlds completed either. Anyway, the process will likely be on the slow side, considering the number of times that you'll have to alternate between the game and Miiverse. 14:23, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

hello
Now that the Star Piece list and the Shine Sprite list of PMTTYD are finished, I'm planning for the item list. One question: Since it is possible for me to miss some items (like that Shooting Star in PM), if I say "Items found in this area include:", will the reader know that the table is possibly not comprehensive? Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2015 (EDT)
 * Yes, I copied the colors from the enemy formation pages. Did you come up with those color codes? Or who deserves to be credited? (In case you haven noticed, the the PM star piece list has also ada(o?)pted the new design, but unsatisfactory.) Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 09:26, 21 June 2015 (EDT)