MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 30

New Super Mario Bros. series
Seeing as there are now four New Super Mario Bros. games, should there be a page for the subseries? Pokemega32 06:56, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
 * We should, seeing as that we have series articles for the Mario Baseball and Mario Strikers series, despite both of them currently only have two games in the series. GreenDisaster 07:25, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Apples and oranges. The NSMB series is an extension of the core Super Mario platformer series: split it out and you have to split out the original SMB series, figure out what to do with SMW and SM3DL, and decide whether to include SMG and SMG2 in with the direct-sequel-less 3D platformers or give it its own subseries (and if you include remakes, SMA and SMAS would need addressing too). It's a very slippery slope. By comparison, even if there's only two of each, the Baseball and Strikers titles are completely unique from any other sports title. The only way you could not have them exist as series is by collapsing all the sports games into one mega subseries, but given the number of Tennis and Golf games, that would make organization an inefficient mess. Another thing to consider is that once you have series pages, that means rearranging the Histories too, which would be a huge undertaking, and would necessitate moving a lot of the core series info way far down the Histories. Seeing as these games are the backbone of Mario franchise as a whole, keeping them together, as high as possible on the pages, makes far more sense. Reorganizing Super Mario (series) to lump the different Super Mario branches might be a good idea, however, as long as there's still a bullet-point list at the top showing the straight chronological order of all of 'em, or something like that. - 20:47, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Concerning the trivia section.
"Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! (pictured) is the first game in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series which Pauline is giving a voice."

Not only is this grammatically incorrect, it's also wrong. When Donkey Kong '94 was played on Super Game Boy, Pauline's cries of "help!" could be heard in a digitized voice. It doesn't work on emulators, but I recall seeing a video of it some time ago which I can't seem to find again. So if someone else could provide proof, that would be much appreciate it. - SiFi 07:25, 16 June 2012 (EDT)


 * While she does speak in DK94 (here's proof), the Trivia's about the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series, and DK94 is more of a precursor to the series, so it's not actually wrong. (But the grammar has been fixed.) - 18:55, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

Organization of Games?
I'll like to know how are the games in character articles are organized? Like are they organized alphabetically or chronologically or something else?
 * History sections are chronological, but grouped by series; if there's a stand-alone game or if only one game in a series appears, don't bother with a series sub-header. Templates are supposed to be purely chronological, with any series-wide template being placed at the point in which the series first appears. Categories are alphabetical. Non-game-based templates and categories go before the game-based templates and categories, except for merchandise-based categories, which go at the very bottom. Here's a (hypothetical) comparison chart:


 * All this applies to all types of appearances, not just games: in other words, movies, comics, books and TV shows would all be mixed in with the games in the Histories, templates and categories. And just in case you're wondering, cameos go at the bottoms of History pages (under an overall "Cameos" subheader), and a "Background" section is sometimes included at the top, i.e. for characters that had history as babies (such as Bowser, who also has a "Cameos" section, by the way), or one-off characters who have backstory set before their game starts (like the Shadow Queen). There can even be a "Creation"/"Creation and Development" section placed before the History section, which covers the characters Real Life history; Luigi has an example of this sort of section. Finally, for the record, the polices themselves can be found here for the Histories, here for the Templates, and here for the Categories. -  20:59, 19 June 2012 (EDT)


 * But wait! What about {Mario Party Characters}?
 * I didn't use Mario Party in my example, so that's not applicable. It also wouldn't be a proper template if it even existed: templates should be about everything in a game, not just one aspect, and templates about one aspect across an entire series are also highly dissuaded (I just included a "MK Series Characters" template in my example to show how the odd acceptable series-wide template would be placed). - 20:53, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

False trivia
Henry Ford did not create the automobile; that machine was first created by German engineers in the mid 1870s. It should be noted that Henry's name is based on the misconception that the car was invented by Henry Ford.  BNK [ E 23:34, 14 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Good call: I tried to make it a bit more historically accurate - 20:03, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

New section
Hello mario wiki staff i couldnt help but notice that your news paper doesnt have a comic section i figured i could partake in said missing section i(think) i have a preview for your viewing eyes

[[File:C:\Documents and Settings\Malik Due\My Documents\M&L TIP\Delfino airstrip


 * You mean File:Mario and luigi ep 1-1.PNG? I was under the impression that they do have a comic, but either way, if you want to contribute to The 'Shroom, you have to talk to The 'Shroom staff: their names are listed here. -  18:19, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

it should be mentioned
I realized that nowhere mentions that Donkey Kong is a reference to King Kong.

also in the original Donkey Kong game, the ape kidnaps pauline and takes her to the top of a building (which is under construction), similar to how king kong did


 * Actually, the storyline of Donkey Kong was originally based off of Popeye. King Kong's influence was mostly an afterthought.--Vommack (talk) 19:25, 12 August 2012 (EDT)


 * oh! well shouldn't that be mentioned?


 * Please sign your comments, I probably should be mentioned.

Mushroom Arena
Why don't we make an arena like SmashWiki and Donkey Kong Wiki!!! The Awesome  12:48, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Chat
As you created the chat (I'm Italian wiki)--Wariomoto (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (EDT)


 * We use this WebChat extension along with our IRC rooms. -- 17:20, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

Incorrect Trivia
The trivia section forgets that Kamek / Magikoopa is also on a stool in at least the Don't Look minigame. Moolala (talk) 15:59, 28 August 2012 (EDT)

How do I add a page
How do I add a page or edit a page that currently has no text in it ? Davebrayfb (talk) 14:20, 23 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Are you autoconfirmed? You cannot create new pages if you are not autoconfirmed.

Not agreed!
(From = Did You Know?/ Home Page) *Bowser Jr.'s Fearsome Fleet is the only galaxy in Super Mario Galaxy 2 where Yoshi can be in the Grand Star victory pose.

I don't agree with it. You can also see Yoshi on the Grand Star Pose in Bowser's Galaxy Generator if you use Yoshi's infinite flutter jump. You guys have to change this. 07:32, 29 September 2012 (EDT)

NIWA Check in request
Hello, I'm dkpat from Golden Sun Universe/NIWA. I recently made a thread on the NIWA forums that requests that an admin from each wiki "check-in" and give an update on their wiki activity. I would appreciate it if someone from SMW could check in. Thank you. Link Dkpat (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2012 (EDT)
 * This is currently being discussed on the forums.

Grammar Mistake
Um... On the Did You Know? "Shuri name" should be changed to "Shuri's name." User: Meester Tweester 06:10, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Signature Creation Page: PROBLEM
Okay, so I had problems with the /sig and /Sig pages before. But I just found out why many signatures go wrong.

When you go to this page: http://www.mariowiki.com/Help:Signature there is a problem. Under the "Preparing for Usage" section, there should be a second } at the end of the "quote" thing. This should be changed!

Pullblox / Pushmo info
Should information be created on this eShop exclusive. It features many puzzles based on Mario characters including Mario himself. If it abides under MarioWiki policies, I'll go ahead and make it myself. Thanks, 15:17, 13 November 2012 (EST)
 * So it's kinda like Art Style: PiCTOBiTS for DSiWare? We have a page on that (and Tetris DS), so we should have a page on this too (but not full coverage since it's not a full crossover: just an article for the game itself, not on the characters and other non-Mario stuff). - 12:27, 17 November 2012 (EST)
 * No no we won't go into detail. Basically some puzzles are based on retro Mario enemies and characters. I'll go ahead and make the article then. Thanks for answering, 13:59, 17 November 2012 (EST)

MarioWiki
Hello, could you make a version of this wiki in Spanish? If the answer is yes, how could I be the admin?Plis¡¡Reason: I'm 100% Spanish is an important language and(use a translator to communicate with you) --Mario12345678 (talk) 11:13, 17 November 2012 (EST)
 * We're not in the business of making non-English versions of our wiki, but you can always make a Spanish Mario wiki yourself, if you're up to it, like how others have made Italian and German wikis (both of which we are affiliated with). - 12:21, 17 November 2012 (EST)

If possible I would, but do not in MediaWiki wikis and a Spanish version ganariais more fame, besides what you have done with the Italian and the other.--Mario12345678 (talk) 03:58, 18 November 2012 (EST)

Poll Spelling Mistake
"I think it has the potential turn out great." on the poll should be "I think it has the potential to turn out great." Tell me if I'm wrong and change it if that's right. Thanks! It's Meester Tweester! 20:09, 17 November 2012 (EST)

Change the Paper Mario fact!
Since both Spiky and Spiny Tromps appear in the new Mario game, the fact that shows which Paper Mario characters appear in 3D games should be changed to add them. --Spookum (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2012 (EST)
 * Ummm... neither of them appear in 3D Games, but i see how that might be true. Spiky must be Lakilester, since when you battle him he's known as Spiky. Both of them re-appear in Super Paper Mario, but only when Mario flips. But that also means every enemy that was remade into SPM must be 3D. Keep in mind that they still have 2D sprites. This is controversial, so whoever reads this should post a comment.[[Image:Tweester.gif]] It's Meester Tweester! 05:58, 19 November 2012 (EST)
 * He's referring to the fact that Spiky Tromps and Spiny Tromps, which were originally Paper Mario series exclusive enemies, have made their debut in a traditional Mario platformer. Also, Spookum, please don't forget to sign your comments. --

Polls
The main page would be more interesting if there were new polls every week.

Proposer:

Oppose

 * 1) This wouldn't work given the way the system was designed to work.

Comments
I don't have an opinion (I'd personally rather get rid of the polls entirely, but I assume that's an unpopular opinion), but this probably shouldn't be a talk page proposal. Don't be surprised if you're asked to move this to the main proposals page. -- 1337star (Mailbox SP) 13:11, 19 December 2012 (EST)

As the Poll Chairperson, let me say that the way our system works is that we use one week to nominate polls, and the second week to vote on them. It's a system that puts less strain on us, and gives more readers a chance to vote. I'd rather we not change this. Crocodile Dippy (talk) 17:22, 19 December 2012 (EST)


 * Yeah, no, this is not what TPPs are for, so I closed it (it was also formatted wrong, fyi: the deadline should've been after two weeks, not one, and this wasn't listed on Proposals). You could make a proposal instead, but I don't recommend it either: just let the folks in charge of the polls run it the way that works for them. - 19:24, 19 December 2012 (EST)