Talk:Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story/Archive 2

A List of All Enemies!
On a capture site containing guides for games, I peaked into their Mario & Luigi RPG 3 section to see what I could find and bring to this Wiki. Look at this, a whole list of every enemy, it appears!

http://dra-de.com/game/mario_luigi_rpg3/mario_luigi3_teki1.html

The illustrations to the side are fan art, by the way, to make things more clear. But I think this will be helpful. Leirin 20:51, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

It would be if someone could translate it.

Yeah, YourBuddyBill, we need official English names for these enemies, it's getting annoying to me!

Ahem- Cough - Blehem- See here - cough cough- I've almost done it all - cough - ACK! - Yes.

Official NA Name
we also need the REAL official English title for the game. we neeed theem! AARRRGGGHHHH! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! YYYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! (Just kidding)

It's possible that April 1st is not the real release date, weeks before the Japanese version of the game, they already came up with the name and box art. tomorrow is April 1st, and still no title or boxart!! except those "fake" titles, but it is possible that either one (or both) of them is/are the official title(s). But still.

The offical na name is mario and luigi bowser's inside story.

European release date
This game will be realesed in Europe somewhere in Agust/September/October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aghhhhhhhhhhhh!!! I can't wait!!!!!!


 * Nah. It will come in Europe in June/July/August. In another words, in Summer. The French Nintendo official magazine said it. Where did ou get that info ?

Koopalmier 10:37, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Brittish Official Nintendo Magazine said it's going to be hit of Autumn

Let me guess, Miss Koopette, you live in Europe.

Yup, you're right.

I live in NA

Summer or Autumn ? Until further informations, nothing's really sure. I don't think Autumn is pretty sure, nor Summer. But I hope it's in Summer, because I can't wait for the French release of the game. Koopalmier 06:14, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Lemme guess, Koopamiler, you live in France/Europe.

look, do you guys know how many times those idiots are wrong? many times. Luigi456

See?
I told you the date was not real!!! well, some of you said that earlier, but those who agree were also right!! See? that means they were either:

1. lying

2. you looked it up on the 'sites that lied

3. they failed to achieve the release date

4. the release date was not truly achieved

5. Nintendo hasn't scheduled the release date in North America yet

See? The game is not in AMERICA, NO GAME!!!!!!! I knew it! WE KNEW IT!!! (no offense)
 * Have you ever heard the expression "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"? There was no constructive point to that posting; being glad you were right is one thing, but this is crossing the line of good-taste. - 18:59, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm sorry, OK? Have you seen my userbox tower, one of my userboxes state that I have a terrible temper. and no, a have never heard of that saying. Anyways, I'm sorry.

"Mario & Luigi the chronicles of three?"
I don't know if it's internet lies or that is really the English title. We still need to wait.

this is a fan based name. Luigi456

Its mario and luigi bowser's inside story. mariogurl9

I agree with mariogur19, It's Bowser's inside story.

the meaning of Q2 2009
what does "Q2 2009" mean?


 * It means "second quarter of 2009" (which is the period from April to June). 02:03, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

So that means that the game is upon us correct or is this another bogus date? --Count b 08:31, 16 April 2009 (EDT)Count b


 * Where is there proof that Q2 is when nintendo plans to release the game? -- User:MapleTree46 14:56 MapleTree Productions

the proof is on neoseeker. you will see the source at the bottom of the page.

Well, how did neoseeker find that info? That's only what people think it's going to be but it may be false. Lets just hope for a June release.

Me is helpful
I'm halfway through the ROM of Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! If anybody wants me to, I'll rip sprites of EVERY SINGLE ENEMY and put them onto one sheet, so we can have a graph of some sort displaying enemy stats and stuff. Who wants me to get ripping?

Um, an infobox would consume much less data, and load faster. AFAIK, nobody's actually ripped the stats from the game yet anyway. If you want to add separate images of each enemy to the appropriate articles, that'd probably be much more helpful. 15:12, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

You say nobody's ripped the stats, but does that make me a nobody? I know almost all the enemy stats at the moment.Here's a couple.I'll try to help with stats as much as possible because I love stats me.

Fawful: 1,500 HP

Shroob Senji: 300 HP



Actually, I said "As far as I know, nobody's ripped the stats." ;) Anyway, how did you get those? 17:04, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

Riiiiight. Yeah, I'm so desperate to know the stats, every damage I do I add up until the enemy is beat, and I substract any numbers that seem unlikely, as boss HP normally ends in a zero, so a Shroob Senji's HP can't be 302, but most likely 300. It's harder with normal enemies.

Oh, ok. That sounds good. With the HP, I can determine all the other stats from datamining. Which would also be enough, I'd think, to get rid of any error... 12:10, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

So should I wait untill the official English enemy names and THEN make the articles and put the sprites and stuff on? Because I'm ripping them as we speak.

Eh, it won't be hard to rename them later. Go ahead and start. 12:53, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

You can try spriters resource for the sprites. I've see some M&L RPG 3 sprites there.

Oh yeah. Looks like I don't have to worry anymore! But they don't have any MetaBoss sprites... So I'll do that myself.

Confused
Is the game coming out in June? because on Wikipedia is says May 15? --Count b 08:28, 5 May 2009 (EDT)Count b
 * People often add fake dates for upcoming games in Wikipedia. It has been removed again. --Grandy02 13:13, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Yes I know I was just there but what about June I have not seen anything on other sites leading to June especially not Nintendo but it I could see where it would be likely because June is after 3 months and japan usually sends us the games after 3 months. --Count b 18:23, 5 May 2009 (EDT)Count b

You are correct, but it also takes time to program the games to make them speak English.

that doesnt mean anything. there is no "games usually are released three months after Japan". none of us can afford to assume anything. as we move closer to the games release, more and more will begin to reveal. Luigi456 19:57, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

Game Title
I have been hearing like a lot of you I am sure have been hearing that there is a rumor the official title for the game is Mario & Luigi: The Chronicles of Three but do not take this to heart because this may be false especially since Nintendo remains silent to any thing of this game still. --Count b 12:00, 22 May 2009 (EDT) Count b

This is just a fan based name. There is still no real American name

PAL release
Just got the French Nintendo Official Magazine today. It says that the Europe release date is in July. I'm not sure (the British Nintendo Official Magazine says that the release date is in Autumn), but what is sure is that something is going to happen in July. Maybe the US release ? Koopalmier 09:38, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

Well the release date may be announced at E3 09 in June so it probably will be released in late June or early July. YAY! I can't wait!--Fawfulfury65 10:40, 27 May 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

I've got news. First, Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games will be released later than November in Europe, meaning that it may come out in Europe near December/January. Something more important, something will be released in Europe in July. I'm pretty sure it's M&L3. I got these news from someone that is working at a video game shop. Koopalmier 14:22, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

Well, workers in video game stores aren't always correct.--Fawfulfury65 19:02, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

You cant trust those magazines, otherwise we'd always have an accurate release date for everything.

That is true. You cant rely on magazines but he said it was an official Nintendo magazine and if its a Nintendo magazine it could be true.--Fawfulfury65 08:56, 30 May 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

E3 2009
As we all know E3 is coming up so keep your eyes peeled for any info from Nintendo on Mario & Luigi RPG 3 I have a ahunch we will find something there! --Count b 15:57, 31 May 2009 (EDT) Count b

Umm...
Shouldnt the name be Mario and Luigi Rpg 3!!! still? It was first released in Japan, under that name, and because of the proposal from a few months ago, this name is invalid???
 * No, the proposal was about the first English name used. So it's basically about whether the game iss released first in America, in Europe, or in Australia. 00:00, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

No, it's American name was announced at E3 and it is Bowser's Inside Story.--Fawfulfury65 16:21, 3 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Fall 2009
Meaning... When?

--Mario240 11:50, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

Meaning September, October, or November. according to Game stop, October. Luigi 456

NA name for the Mekataro disease
I probably misspelled Mekataro, but I was watching a video on the Wii at the Nintendo Channel, from E3, and in one of the Toad's speech bubbles it mentioned the disease being called "blorbs". There's even a picture of that screen in this article too! Should Mekataro be changed to Blorbs? The Game Prince

Not yet. Wait for more information just to make sure it's correct.--Fawfulfury65 10:25, 9 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Um, it's in Nintendo Power! I just got my issue today, and it has a 4-page runthrough of the plot. It clearly and surely states that it is called "The Blorbs". If you don't believe me, I'll scan it. I think it's official by now, and the name should be changed if it hasn't already. The Game Prince

October 1st
Why is this date on the american release Nintendo has not specified any date it is just known as Fall 2009 on their website. --Count b 10:55, 7 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

I think someone put it on Wikipedia and so now everyone thinks it's October 1st. Somebody should get rid of that.--Fawfulfury65 16:11, 8 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Addition
I added Fall 2009 to the american release and put the reference link to the direct page on nintendo the game is located on. --Count b 17:04, 8 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

Date
The date was changed yet again to october 1st, it is NOT october 1st Nintendo has not said this! --Count b 18:44, 10 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

Ugh! Nintendo says it's Fall 2009 and nothing more so IT IS NOT OCTOBER 1st! They never said it would be released on October 1st when it was announced, they said FALL 2009! If you don't believe me than e-mail Nintendo and they will say Fall 2009! I HAVE FURY!--Fawfulfury65 19:24, 11 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

I mean seriously I had the direct link to nintendo's page for the game and people still don't pay attention! --Count b 15:47, 12 June 2009 (EDT) Count b

Yes someone finally changed it back to Fall 2009! DO NOT CHANGE IT!--Fawfulfury65 12:26, 13 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

September 14
Someone needs to erase this because it is fake. Nintendo still says Fall 2009. Wikipedia is lying just like they did for the October 1st release date.--Fawfulfury65 08:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

That release date isn't from Wikipedia. It's from GameStop, so that release date could be true. -RedFire Mario

I guess it's fine then. But Nintendo still says Fall so I'm going to ask someone next time I go to Gamestop.--Fawfulfury65 15:37, 20 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

"The blorbs"!?
On Nintendo's official website I was browsing through the news from E3 and I saw a video containg a few speech bubbles in English. In one of them a Toad said "Soon the entire Mushroom Kingdom will get the blorbs..." The quote is at 0:04. I think I had given enough of proof.

Yoshi  Koshi   Moshi  16:23, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes, many websites call it that so it's probably true and can be put in the article.--Fawfulfury65 16:30, 22 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

IS THIS BOX ART EVEN OFFICIAL?!
http://spyrofan238.deviantart.com/art/IS-THIS-RIGHT-127909336

I found this image on GameFly.com, And i don't know if it's official, what do you think? --Mario240 14:55, 1 July 2009 (EDT)Mario240

No way! That's not even the right logo.--Fawfulfury65 15:42, 1 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Mario and Luigi 4?
I went on Wikipedia and it said that Shigeru Miyamoto announced a 4th Mario and Luigi game for 2010. That sound awesome but could it be true?--Fawfulfury65 09:29, 5 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

You can never really trust wikipedia on these kind of things. The only sites that you can trust for these kind of things are hardcore gaming sites like gamespot, or IGN. --MapleTree46 19:57, 5 July 2009

Its Probobly True.

Official NA Name For Yellow Star
I looked in august's issue of NINTENDO POWER and i saw the official NA name for the little yellow guy is....... STARLOW!!!

I love that name! Now we have change all the Yellow Stars in the article to Starlow.--Fawfulfury65 11:05, 7 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Official NA Boxart
Look what I found on Gamestop.com! It is also on amazon.com so I think we should put it up as the boxart. Too bad it's the same as the Japanese boxart.--fawfulfury65 15:48, 25 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
 * Not confirmed by Nintendo, plus it's most likely a fake. Why would they keep the same boxart and change the logo ? Koopalmier 18:20, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
 * But It's Posible--Mario240 17:52, 29 July 2009 (EDT)Mario240
 * And I hope it's wrong. They would break the tradition. Koopalmier 07:58, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Well Ithink It Was About Time They Did A Diffrent Design For A Change! --Mario240 16:46, 27 July 2009 (EDT)Mario240

That box art should be up because it came from Gamestop and a bunch of other websites have it too. Gamestop usually puts this kind of stuff on their website before Nintendo so it still is probably true even if it isn't on Nintendo.com. Someone should at least put it on as a beta picture.--fawfulfury65 18:05, 29 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
 * It doesn't mean it's official (or at least, not official yet). Koopalmier 07:58, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Fawfulfury65 is right. A lot of websites have it. It is most lickley official(Sadly). I am going to change the boxart ratfink43
 * For now, we don't know if it is official, so for now I'm reverting it back to the Japanese box-art. 19:51, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Could you people think a little please? If it was fan-made, why would the guy keep the Japanese Box Art? Also Gamestop dosent make up Box art, and it didnt say "TEMP" on the box. Still, we have no proof from Nintendo. Maybe I will call up Nintendo and Ask if this is the boxart. For now i am gonna leave the Japanese Box art, but after I call it may be changedratfink43

Guys I just called Nintendo. They said this box art is true, and they made this box art. However, they also said the box art could change. Maybe we should leave it alone until the game comes out. Still, it is made by Nintendo, Should I put it back up?? ratfink43
 * It's, true, they made the original boxart (the Japanese one). This one is just the Jap. one but with a custom US logo. So it doesn't mean Nintendo made it all. They made the boxart, not the logo. Koopalmier 12:32, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

GameStop ususally makes their own boxes for the upcoming games, but i dont know if that box is one of them

We cant add the NA boxart. none of the images has the PNG extention, so the mariowiki dosent let me put it up
 * I don't think we should anyway, just wait until Nintendo officially announces the box-art, gives more details, or until it is released. for now I think it should remain as the Japanese box-art, as it is the only official box-art used by Nintendo. 11:50, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

If Nintendo really use this boxart, well then they're really dumber that what I thought. :/ Koopalmier 12:32, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

Yes Kooplaimer, I agree with you. They shouldnt use this Box art. But when I called Nintendo, I asked if they released the Mario and Luigi Bowsers Inside Story Box Art for US. The guy said he dosent remember. I told him to go to gamestop.com and tell me if Nintendo made the Box art that appears there. This is exactly what he said: "Yes. We have created this Box art. However, it is likley to change." Scince it is most likley to change, we should leave the Japanese Box art on this article and leave the subject alone for now. ratfink43

I Have The GIF File, I might Convert It To A PNG File--Mario240 14:16, 2 August 2009 (EDT)Mario240

Hey! Today I went to Gamestop and they had a rack of upcoming games that showed the boxart for BiS! They said the boxart wasn't final, but I'll describe what it looked like since I can't find it on the internet: It had Mario and Luigi climbing on bones in Bowser's body (Like in that one image in the photo gallery) and then Bowser was in the background, except he was pink, along with the rest of the background. And the title logo was in the middle of the picture. If someone can find this on a website, than they should at least put it up as a beta picture!--fawfulfury65 17:41, 4 August 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

NA name for Metaboss
The official NA name for Metaboss is Midbus, according to Nintendo Power. I think somone already changed Metaboss to Midbus, but if no one did, I am going to right now. ratfink43

Birdopillar?
Can anyone confirm that this is actually the the English name of Imounu? We're the only result for "Birdopillar" on Google. 15:37, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

I dont got any proof. probobly niether does anyone here. This is the only website with that name, so somone probobly lied. I wish I knew whoit was, if I did I would Block him. For now, im changing it back to Imunu. ratfink43

making this unable to edit
thats stupid who in their right mind made this page locked. everyone knows that majority people here are normal users, and most things will be discovered by them.

The length of the Story section...
...is way too long. When pasted into Word, it takes up 4 pages and 4 lines at the default settings. Anyone who has time to write (or read) that much stuff about one video game needs to really get a life. Toadfan 09:06, 10 August 2009 (EDT)

Its not our fault this is a long game. The story should be left as is. Ratfink43
 * I understand the game is long. What I'm saying is the article does not need that much detail! We're talking about 4 pages! At Wikipedia (where detailed plot summaries are explicitly forbidden), the article on the same game has a nice three-paragraph plot summary. While I'm not suggesting that it needs to be that short, it definitely needs to be shorter than this. Toadfan 10:03, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
 * But why? We're not Wikipedia. Personally, I think we should get into detail as much as possible (as long as it doesn't get redundant). But I agree we could improve the article by doing two things: 1) Adding more images to the plot section, so it's better readable. 2) Add a shorter summary for people like you who prefer a shorter version.
 * Yes, that would be a good idea. Toadfan 10:47, 10 August 2009 (EDT)

I guess the story doesent have to be every little deatail, but it shouldnt be a short summary either. I WOULD edit this page, but somone locked it.Ratfink43
 * What Time Q meant was to add a short summary separately, like in the lede...oh well, just forget it. This discussion is obviously getting nowhere. Toadfan 10:14, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

NA boxart
Seiriously, we should add the NA boxart found at gamestop.com. Its even on ign.com,costco.com,and now its on wikipedia. Thats it, Im adding it.Ratfink43
 * Yeah, but I'm removing it. One example is that I went to GameStop myself and I saw a lable on the Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story box-art as "unofficial" (what they really said was not final, but you know what I mean). 10:18, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Exactly. Plus GameFAQs is affiliated with Gamestop, and the other websites are just naives. Koopalmier 11:56, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

OK just forget about the boxart until something REAL comes up. Gamestop made that boxart up and a bunch of other websites probably copied their boxart. Besides, I saw the real boxart when I was reserveing M&L BiS. It's not final, but it looks nothing like the Japanese boxart. fawfulfury65

Release date source?
The source for the NA release date is from a forum. is that really a reliable source?--Vyro 11:34, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Well, IGN, Amazon, GameStop and many other sites list September 14, 2009. And the reference source for the NA realease needs to be updated. --MechaWave 21:46, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

That boxart is fake
That boxart is fake and was made by Gamestop. The Japanese boxart should be back up. For more proof I e-mailed Gamestop about this boxart. fawfulfury65
 * The Internet is idiot. But knowing Nintendo's dumbness, this may be the final box art, eventually. Koopalmier 07:01, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Alrighty, it IS Fake. No one shuold change it anymore!!!! Ratfink43

Okay, Okay, It's A PlaceHolder SHEEESH!--Mario240 21:46, 23 August 2009 (EDT)Mario240

Boxart section
Why did somone put up the fake Boxart in the logos and boxart section? It even says"Fake NA and European box art"!! Somone needs to get rid of that I called up Nintendo and they confirmed the boxart is FAKE!!!!! Ratfink43

O.K. I Changed It.--Mario240 15:14, 24 August 2009 (EDT)Mario240

Sorry if I got in your face or anything, and sorry I shouted. Its just that I dont know why somone would put up the boxart on this wiki espesicallly if even THEY know it is fake. I thought this was a wiki for facual information only. A picture like that would fit in the trivia section.Ratfink43

It's Not Fake Anymore it's REAL, For Proof I went to Nintendo.com--Mario240 19:43, 25 August 2009 (EDT)Mario240

Woa, it IS real!! ok NO ONE CHANGE IT IT IS ON NINTENDO.COM IT IS REAL!!!! User:Ratfink43:Ratfink43

Whats wrong with Nintendo?! That boxart is SO LAME! fawfulfury65

if you want to know that box art on nintendo.com is not official because they have no other boxart the one thay are going to use is under peroges

Good point. I'm telling you though, I saw the real boxart at my local Gamestop! This probably is still a placeholder. fawfulfury65
 * (observation from an uninvolved party) With the amount of capital letters and exclamation points, I would think you were arguing about politics, religion, sport - something meaningful. Seriously, if you can't decide on which boxart is real, did it ever occur to you all to just remove the (supposedly fake) boxart(s) in question until it is known which one is real? And if one of the boxarts is, in fact, real and you think it sucks, then live with it! Toadfan 20:31, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

Since the box art appears at Nintendo.com and it is less than a month until North American release, this is probably the final Western game cover. Would not be unlikely, the same happened with WarioWare - the first two US game covers showed Wario and his cast of friends, but afterwards they adopted the simple style of the Japanese covers with just Wario's face - and now the same goes for the Mario & Luigi series. --Grandy02 05:42, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Somone needs to change the american game logo. on Nintendo.com`s videos, it shows the REAL NA logo

RatFink43 I Just Changed It.--Mario240 21:20, 28 August 2009 (EDT)Mario240

Techniques Return
According to this, Several Techniques from previous Mario & Luigi games will return. It shows Mini-Mario and the Spin Jump. I'd assume more of them are to return as well.

Correct, and this video shows the new NA logo. Ratfink43

Official English Ste
I found out what the official English site is. It is at http://bowsersinsidestory.com/. It has a few videos as of now and also has links to French and Spanish versions of the site.
 * Actually, it's the US website, so the French version is the Canadan version. Koopalmier 06:47, 31 August 2009 (EDT)

who took the logo out
If it was you, PUT IT BACK ON THERE!

Whats the point of putting a BETA logo on this Page!! I mean it could stay but at least put the real logo back up why did you take it down, whoever took it down? Whats the Inside Story of why somone removed the real NA logo.
 * The file of the actual logo is corrupted. Plus the first logo was shown at E3, so it's enough important. But you can remove it. Koopalmier 15:43, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Well, its back up. But we can still leave the Beta logo, just dont remove the real one.

PAL cover
http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/jaquettes/00027481/jaquette-mario-luigi-voyage-au-centre-de-bowser-nintendo-ds-cover-avant-p.jpg

However, it is too small. Should I put it there or wait for a bigger version ? Koopalmier 15:49, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Find a better version and added it. Take it back if I made any mistakes. Koopalmier 14:18, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

You sure thats the European boxart? Im not looking to start an argument, as I dont even live in Europe. I just want to know w2here you got it.Ratfink43
 * French websites. Just search "Mario & Luigi: Voyage au centre de Bowser" on Google. Koopalmier 19:26, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

I visited the French website for this and there's still the normal boxart in the picture on the corner, but not the one you saw, Koopalmier. Are you sure this is real because I don't understand why Nintendo would make a different boxart for the EU version but not the US one. Well, we can keep that up for a while but let's all keep are eyes peeled for any changes! fawfulfury65