User talk:Results May Vary

Nintendo Power #90
Hi again! (Btw, thanks for archiving your talk page!) I have a request for you: You are the only accessible person on the internet who apparently owns Nintendo Power issue 90 (the one with Dixie and Kiddy Kong in a toboggan). Could you please look at the DKC3 segments in that issue, and tell me if you find anything stating that the Kremlings were mutated by something? Many users on the internet, including me, remember something about that being the case, so I'm trying to find a source proving this. (While you're at it, please let me know about anything else obscure in the DKC3 segment!) This would really help a lot! (You don't have to, I don't want to pressure you into doing anything) 14:14, December 11, 2021 (EST)
 * Thanks a lot!! 14:34, December 11, 2021 (EST)

RE:December update
It's great to hear from you again. This past month has seen slower progress in regard to my wiki contributions; instead, I've directed my attention to several outside endeavours.

It's nice that you have taken the initiative to better the databases that document various franchises, but I have to wonder if the prospective workload of such task won't take a toll on your finances and, more importantly, you.

At any rate, thank you for the update. I appreciate everything you do! 13:00, December 12, 2021 (EST)
 * Playing the long game is a commendable approach, and I've acknowledged that you love doing it, but I do have to wonder how much you find to be enough. I'd be adamant about not overexerting yourself. Your contributions are much needed with how terrible some of the mainstay sources of information are to navigate, e.g. Bulbapedia; I'm just saying that, realistically, you'd fare much better if you focused yourself on one project, then moving on when it can sustain itself at the earliest.
 * Anyway, should you need any help, I'm here to hear your requests. As ever, I'm busy with Mario Wiki projects, but I should be able to squeeze some time for whatever you need of me. 12:04, December 13, 2021 (EST)
 * That's reassuring. If any drama of sorts arises, it's best you take it in stride, like you said. I'm sure you'll prove your mettle, if you haven't already :) 12:24, December 13, 2021 (EST)

RE:DK Wiki PT
You create for me on this site Miraheze? Because you have more knowledge. ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 15:31, December 12, 2021 (EST)
 * ChristopherPAraujo Hi, I am DarkMatterMan4500, an acquaintance of Results May Vary on the wikifarm that is known as Miraheze. I was sent here by a link from him directly to his talk page, and I wanted to say, if you want to join Miraheze, then that's great. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 10:56, December 13, 2021 (EST)

You're welcome!
Happy to be of help! 14:38, January 1, 2022 (EST)

Nintendo Holiday Pinterest board
So I just found this Pinterest collection dedicated to Nintendo-themed holiday creations. It was promoted by Nintendo of America in a Facebook post, and it has tons of redirects to official Nintendo social media posts where they present their own printable stuff. Might be worth bringing some of that material over here, maybe? 11:15, January 2, 2022 (EST)

Re:thank you
Sure! I understand the excitement of proto-documentation, so I look forward to seeing how much gets covered. (This may be more up your alley since I feel the GBA version is a bit out of my jurisdiction as it were, as while I have memories of the SNES version, my experience with the GBA version is mostly limited to checking out Pacifica.) By the way, there's been something I've been meaning to mention: I've noticed you added some Miraheze wiki links on your user page not too long ago. I'm curious as to the goal/approach compared to alternative wikis such as those for Kirby and Super Smash Bros. Is it like the Zelda Archive sitch, or something else? I don't know much about Miraheze. Asking for a friend who might be interested in "The Kirby Encyclopedia" in particular. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:30, January 6, 2022 (EST)
 * Interesting. I think I remember that Super Smash Bros. proposal, and I honestly think the future of this content in the long term here is uncertain, so it's good that you have a "fork" backup ready. So, other points of interest: what's the Miraheze Super Mario Wiki? (I'm amused that it apparently takes a stance on "canon warnings" like FANDOM's MarioWiki while our stance has almost always been "there is no canon" but secretly it's really "draw your own conclusions for yourself." ) And can you tell me about ShoutWiki? There was another wiki I was interested in a while back, which I thought was an independent alternative to a Wikia site, but then I realized it was on ShoutWiki and I guess the Gamepedia buyout spooked me from it. I'm not too savvy on the specifics, but I suppose, since both ShoutWiki and Miraheze more openly pride themselves as open source projects, would you say there's less of a chance for the same thing to happen to them? Anyway, I'm in agreement that WiKirby has pretty much gone in its own direction. I remember you asked me once if you can " steal borrow" my Kirby-related contributions, so if there's a unified goal of making it more like this wiki, I say it's fine in case you were thinking of doing that again, though I should add if you do that I've changed my stance on the gender thing since then - I still think it's a little annoying that my old, novice arguments have been overemphasized in some other places, but it's hard to argue when the main creator, voice actor, and Japanese sourcebooks have all repeated the same thing at some point, which I wasn't aware of until recently...so it looks like I was accidentally right all along, just not for reasons I stand by now that I have more knowledge on how the language works, if that makes sense. At any rate, good luck with these wikis! LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:21, January 6, 2022 (EST)
 * Yes, I noticed that Gamepedia had a "corporate" identity from day one, so really the Wikia acquisition might've been inevitable in some ways. The wiki I had in mind was Bomberpedia - I'd never heard of ShoutWiki until that point, so my first thought was: "oh, it's named after the Bomberman character, Shout!" Regardless, it's a pretty tight-knit community, so I don't see them migrating anytime soon. So with Triforce Wiki having moved its hosting to Grifkuba Gaming Services, is there a reason why Triforce Wiki doesn't appear to be listed on Grifkuba's main page? "Asking for a friend" was my bad attempt at being somewhat subtle lol. Not to get too off-topic here, but one more thing while I'm talking about other wikis: since you handle both Final Fantasy Wiki and Wiki of Mana, I'm curious as to your stance on Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden (Final Fantasy Adventure / Adventures of Mana) and Shinyaku: Seiken Densetsu (Sword of Mana) coverage. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:50, January 7, 2022 (EST)

Emergency
My wiki site has received a warning that some things will be disabled. ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 18h42in de January 7, 2022 (EST) (UTC)

RE:Pokémon articles
I've scanned them, and all I can say is that you're off to a great start. Keep 'em coming! I can't find a Play Nintendo page, though. Does it currently exist only as a draft? 18:15, January 8, 2022 (EST)
 * I'm curious, what is the exact scope of Nintendo Wiki? Is it gonna cover all Nintendo media, just without minor subjects like certain enemies and items? Or will it only do so for games like Game Builder Garage which don't have a dedicated wiki? 12:32, January 31, 2022 (EST)
 * I think I heard there's some controversy surrounding certain wiki farms but I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to understand why. As for wiki farms in general, this is the first time I hear some people are outright wary of them. 15:17, February 4, 2022 (EST)

Player's guides
Exists the Mario Super Sluggers player's guide? ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 22h18, January 31, 2022 (EST)

Because I want the artwork of Kritter in big size with good quality. ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 23h53, January 31, 2022 (EST)

DKC Player's guide in Japanese
You DKC3 japanese player's guide have artwork of Dixie or Kiddy riding Ellie? ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 14:51, Febuary 4, 2021 (EDT)

RE: ayoooooo
Haha, been busy with real life. Got two jobs nowadays and I wish I had more time for this place but I... 😭😭 well, that's the price you pay for getting old. But I miss and love you too fam I appreciate you!!! You a real one.


 * Totally late response but yeah, I totally f' with the vision. The Wikia Fandom websites beat us to the punch in a lot of wikis...but...as I've complained before...bro their layout and formatting is so much infinitely worse! Wikia has awful syntax and a confusing layout! Every time! I love what y'all are doing, I wish I could help with the B-K Wiki a whole lot more. I definitely would if I was still 13 and had all the time and enthusiasm in the world, it's a shame really. Man, it's insane to me that I will probably die having never seen another real Banjo game again. 8 year old me would always be so hyped about the possibility of Banjo-Threeie on the Gamecube, and I'd look up fan made content sometimes thinking it to be real. If only that little kid knew that he'd be, one day, 25 years old and still not have the game. Nuts & Bolts doesn't count, but I sure enjoyed it a lot for what it was. JonTron's complaints were very valid, though. It felt very dead; it wasn't full of life and exploration and things to do, overall. It didn't even feel like they were Banjo characters. And the graphics overall, the redesigns and coloring, it all felt dull and sad.

Re:Kirby no Kirakira Kizzu
So I actually do have reason to have done this a little differently. As you said, Kirby's Super Star Stacker isn't necessarily a finalized title, so I wouldn't have used that. The Game Boy version box art romanizes the Kirakira Kizzu part as KiraKira Kids, but that's not what I'm thinking of either. The title I'm thinking of was used right in Kirby: Planet Robobot. If you recall, there are unlockable stickers based on artwork from previous games. The stickers from the Game Boy and Super Famicom versions are grouped together as Kirby's Star Stacker since they have the same Japanese name. So I'd reference that as the English title and come up with identifiers to differentiate from the Game Boy and Super Famicom versions. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:16, March 3, 2022 (EST)

Re:Some articles live on
I have suggestions! There was a proposal that, among other things, condensed the Assist Trophies from their own articles into a list. We also had more Doki Doki Panic and Panel De Pon information that got gutted. Do these sound like things you'd save at Nintendo Wiki and SSB Wiki? (Also, I'm pretty sure it's "Castle Dedede") LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:55, March 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * Thanks for bringing that to my attention! That Yoshi's Island webpage looks so cool, but unfortunately, I don't think its original form was ever fully archived. A lot of those other web screenshot and descriptions also make me nostalgic somehow. I do have a few notes here you may find interesting.

I do want to ask, how's the process for making your own wiki at Miraheze? The thought has crossed my mind to make a companion wiki for a personal, RPG-related project I've had in the works for some time, and I'm wondering if Miraheze would be a decent fit. Merely a hypothetical for now since I'm unsure if I can work out the logistics. LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:10, March 18, 2022 (EDT)
 * Panel de Pon: Neris looks like a mermaid, but she's called the sea fairy. The characters' full titles are: はなのようせい　リップ (flower fairy Lip), かぜのようせい　ウィンディ (wind fairy Windy), こおりのようせい　シャーベット (ice fairy Sharbet), みどりのようせい　ティアナ (green fairy Thiana), ほうせきのようせい　ルビー (jewel fairy Ruby), みずのようせい　エリアス (water fairy Elias), ほのおのようせい　フレア (flame fairy Flare), うみのようせい　ネリス (sea fairy Neris), つきのようせい　セレン (moon fairy Seren), ビッグバード　フェニックス (big bird Phoenix), モンスター　ドラゴン (monster Dragon), まおう　サナトス (devil king Sanatos) and めがみ　コーデリア (goddess Corderia). One minor character is shared between SFC Panel de Pon and SNES Tetris Attack, named タイムくん / Mr. Time by the second character of Stage Clear mode.
 * Panel de Pon GB appears to have been developed much further along before becoming Pokémon Puzzle Challenge - TCRF's page is really just the tip of the iceberg. Check out the bottom section of this page for instance. Some things like story text was apparently overwritten, but from the recovered graphics it looks like the missing link between the original and the 64/GC game. There's a restoration project underway last I checked that uses the Japanese version since it's the one with the most leftovers.
 * Panel de Pon 64 wasn't just "believed to have been retooled" as Pokémon Puzzle League - there's footage of an in-progress build where the options screen is still Panel de Pon-themed (which is actually still mentioned in the Nintendo Puzzle Collection article), so it's pretty much a strong certainty.
 * Lina is Imajin's girlfriend (also, I'm pretty sure Mamu/Wart was never a king, even though he wears a crown). Could also mention that Mama's jumping is slightly different than Luigi's.
 * NMS UK #28: This scoop on Donkey Kong Country might have a few things we didn't know about. For instance, a SGI-generated boxing tech demo was what impressed Nintendo and what eventually led to Country. (Also, speaking of this issue, I don't know if you've ever played Chrono Trigger, but this scene with two identical robots behind the gang in the time machine is not in the final game.)
 * NMS AU #42: Not much to say here but just thought it was worth pointing out that they refer to Panel de Pon as "Paneru Gopon" like their UK counterpart. Maybe there's a bit more to it?
 * NMS UK #50: Is the page background used here a known DKC3 render? Compare it with the box art (flipped) and title screen. This looks like an early version of that, except the title screen still has the landmass and background details (no Funky, Kuff/Klout). Dixie is in an entirely different position (which may not be as dynamic but I personally kind of like it because I feel it catches your attention more towards the character whose name is in the title), and Kiddy doesn't seem to be catching a banana (it looks like they sort of hastily added it in, and if you notice his angle was also tweaked for the box art version). The next page is also interesting because at the bottom we have another screenshot of early Karbine (not the one that the wiki has). Quality's not that great, but worth adding.
 * NMS AU #53: Here it says that Star Wing 64 was planned to be the (PAL) title for Star Fox 64 / Lylat Wars, but cites "some clash over the Star Wing name and another company’s use of the title". That might be new information, since the story I'm aware of is the StarVox one. Speaking of which, NMS AU #42 & #54 and maybe this unofficial magazine has some pre-release screenshots I haven't seen before, as well as NMS AU #26 on a potential PAL release of Star Fox 2.
 * NMS AU #55: A preview of a 60% complete build of Banjo-Kazooie (Conker's Quest is on the previous page) mentions "Banjo's girlfriend Piccolo" which sounds a lot like Banjo's sister Tooty. The girlfriend part was deconfirmed to Gregg Mayles' recollection, so it's interesting that there's another source with that claim. It also refers to "Fungus Forest" and "Mount Fire Eye" ("Mount Fire Eyes" in NP 99).
 * Also I observed that a lot of people wrote in asking about a PAL release for Super Mario RPG. NMS AU #53 gives the explanation that Nintendo's falling out with Square started around the time the NTSC version released. That reminds me, I ought to get on to uploading the Super Mario RPG pre-release coverage sometime.
 * What do you think about adding info to the wiki that's fan-submitted if the publishing source is official? I'm sure they edit the submissions a bit before it goes to print. I'm thinking the cheat codes and perhaps the mailbag.
 * Oh, if you want to add a citation for the Doki Doki Panic tidbit, I'm sure it's fine to borrow the one used for the article. The Render Archive or maybe Supper Mario Broth or even Forest of Illusion might be able to look into the mystery DKC3 render. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:18, March 18, 2022 (EDT)

Diddy Kong's go-karting stint
I've played neither the original nor the DS remake, so I have no strong feelings on the series' dormancy. I saw a used copy of Diddy Kong Racing DS selling for like 15 euros at a local store, and I was debating whether I should get it, but I ultimately gave it a pass since I heard pretty bad things about this specific version. Though I did hear a lot of bad things about Wario: Master of Disguise as well before I got it, and I ended up enjoying it. Don't knock 'em till you tried 'em, I guess. Nice job on the wikis so far! I'm iffy on recycling information from here, though. I think a wiki should strive to have original writing, even if it ends up describing the same subject as another site. It ain't an observation on the copyright status, just a concern on the integrity of what you are building. 16:51, March 24, 2022 (EDT)

Metroidpedia et al
I consider myself a fan, even though I'm kind of lousy as far as speedrunning/100%ing these games for all the best endings. One thing that comes to mind that a new wiki might be able to readdress is that I never really liked how the other wikis handled Zoomer/Geemer situation. One of them even sources a Tweet that, to be frank, was most probably the result of an intern citing them to begin with. That said, I do want to see if Metroid Prime 4 makes a little more sense and hopefully clears up the air in this regard, since they touched on these creatures before. There is a minor typo in the first sentence of the Samus article BTW. On the topic of gaming franchises that crossed with Mario outside of Smash, I see that someone also started a Sonic wiki (I think that leaves Pac-Man, Bomberman, and Rayman/Rabbids). Not sure if you're aware, but Dark Horse released a "Sonic the Hedgehog Encyclo-speed-ia" book not too long ago. The existing wikis seemingly take a middling approach where they don't outright reject their encyclopedia like Mario Wiki but don't completely embrace it like Zelda Wiki. Not sure how I feel about it overall, but it's clear that Dark Horse intends to make the video game encyclopedias an ongoing series. It's nice to have somewhere to fall back when other franchises are next. LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:46, March 28, 2022 (EDT)

Super Donkey Kong 3 guide
Hi again, long time no see! I saw that you uploaded the latest version of this image of Ellie. You said that it was from the "SDK3 guide". Is this the "Super Donkey Kong 3 Shogakukan guide" mentioned on the page? If so, can you give me a link to the guide? That'd be really helpful :p 10:54, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

DK Wiki
It looks like my website is having problems!!! ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 22:49, April 7, 2022 (EST)

RE: Patroller?
Thank you for bringing the userbox to my attention. I was a patroller, and that doesn't reflect my current status (which is, as you guessed, retired). I'd honestly forgotten that was there. 23:49, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

RE: Met two ppl
Oh man, them and I go way too far back lol it's actually kind of crazy. I thought they were the same person sockpuppeting, back in 2008, and threatened to block them, thus forcing them to reveal they were siblings. They are good people. On the contrary, I am a horrible person that should be tried in court and sentenced to two life sentences.

Re:Enemy expansion
Looking good so far, probably an overdue change. I did allude to this once with Doc (and yes, I'm aware that I'm not a good wiki-multitasker and it seems things have changed a bit since my last major edits there, but I do promise to have some big contributions when I have a working scanner) , but I'm not sure the Thwomp situation is as clear-cut as it was thought. The Shogakukan guides refer to Spiked Thwomp and Thwimp/Thwomp as being size variants of each other, and given Thwimp's similar Link's Awakening design, that would mean Spiked Thwomp was supposed to be the game's analog to Mario's Thwomp, not Mega Thwomp. They even reappear together in Oracle of Seasons. The wrench in the works is the "Thwomp" that later shows up in Four Swords Adventures, which looks like Mega Thwomp but behaves like Spiked Thwomp. I'd actually wanted to open a discussion on that one. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:59, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * Well, I was considering doubling with the Link's Awakening option as well, but it happens to be one of my favorite 2D Zelda games (pre-remake of course), and I didn't want to give in too much to my bias there. I may go for it later if the Pinball and PiCTOBiTS proposals pass. I do want to make a follow-up at some point to see if we can then cover remaining Mario-based enemies from other games, such as the Piranha Plant-derived Manhandla (probably could cover the Four Swords derivative in the same article for the wiki's sake), Head Thwomp from Oracle of Ages, and Podoboo Tower from that and Oracle of Seasons. I'd possibly even throw in related elements like the Fire Snakes from A Link to the Past, depending on if we classify the Zelda Spark as the same as the Mario one. I always wanted to add some of these to existing infoboxes and templates, but thought they could never look right redirecting to another wiki. I'm not privvy to the thoughts of the NIWA top brass, but I imagine that Zelda Wiki situation hasn't quite put them in a comfortable position either. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:36, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
 * Oh wow, you're on a roll. I'll put my thoughts over there then, but I will say that I think I might actually prefer a general series article that over a particular game. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:00, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Clarification
You can rewrite your proposal within the first three (six for TPPs) days of creation, per rule 14, and what you added hardly qualifies as a rewrite anyway. So your edit was perfectly fine. 13:07, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
 * That's good to know. I asked a Mario Wiki staff member & they said it's fine per that reason you mentioned. Sorry if the proposal is a bit weird though :P Results May Vary (talk) 13:17, April 13, 2022 (EDT)

RE:Mario Wiki scope
I support these ideas with a few caveats; as I've mentioned in the Proposals page, it's important to set clear distinctions between your planned features and the items that already exist, so you cause as little content redundancy as possible. I'm saying "as little as" because I imagine it's almost impossible to recount ties between the development histories of two fictionally-unrelated games without mentioning what is already covered by a "List of references" page somewhere. On the topic of "coverage creep", so to speak, wait until you hear my proposition. I've been thinking for a while that we should extend our coverage of Mario references in films by going beyond only artistic motion pictures. That would include documentaries and, of course... pornography. Regarding the latter, I've always been perplexed by the opening paragraph on the List of Mario references on the Internet page, stating that "This list does not include [...] content with pornography, sex, or other adult-based content that Nintendo has not acknowledged", despite the wiki's adamancy to pre-empt censorship. If something has a respectable degree of notability, even if it is not acknowledged by Nintendo, and makes some allusion to the wiki's pertinent franchise, what limits it from being covered here like other media is? Problem is, I have no idea to initiate a discussion on this topic; beyond being a little pudic about it myself, and having virtually no willingness to actually enact any decisions should there be a consensus, I'm not even really knowledgeable on examples. :P Regarding references to Mario in documentaries, this is a pretty rare occurence--I remember seeing a poster with a 1-Up Mushroom in a documentary film about Wikileaks, but I can't remember which film it, and it most certainly wasn't an intended reference to Mario anyway (see this explanation by Glowsquid on a related forum topic). Anyway, both of these could be pretty contentious topics, but I think sooner or later they ought to be brought up somewhere. 19:16, April 14, 2022 (EDT)