MarioWiki:Proposals

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How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 12) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 13) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 14) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes (including ties), the deadline will be extended for another week.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Add a script project
Since we already have a Staff list project, why not do something similar by transcribing scripts? The Mega Man Network does scripts, so why shouldn't we?

I know we've already got quotes all over the wiki, but this is where it all comes together, in order of context and such.

This would be a useful resource for Mario fans to follow storylines, find their favorite jokes, etc. This would be especially handy for the more text-heavy games like the RPG games or Super Mario Sunshine. However, games that ultilise extensive emphasis methods may be a bit tricky, as do situations where the current character in control affects the dialogue.

As an example of a script format, I've written up a full transcript of Thudley's dialogue when you first meet him in Super Paper Mario, complete with character-specific variants (dialogue following character names in brackets are specific to the character that the dialogue is directed at). The italicised text were presented in the game as shaky text, and the bold are text where the letters jump out at you when written out in the game. Here is my example:


 * Hey! In case you ain't heard, I throw a lot of girth around these parts. And I'm going to check you out to make sure you got the weight to hang with me.


 * All right, let's start by checking that face of yours. [Mario] Looks like you're sportin' a beefy 'stashe, there. Solid! I give it 60 girth points. [Peach] Look at those big eyes! You make my girthy heart flutter, girl. Those eyes of yours have got some heavy to 'em! You get 70 girth points! [Bowser] Dude has shaggy eyebrows! That's not even kinda girthy! You get 50 girth points.


 * All right, I gotta check the girthiness of those clothes of yours! [Mario] Overalls?! Man, only the brawniest heroes wear those! That's worth 100 girth points! [Peach] A pink dress?! It takes guts to wear that here. Bam! There's 100 girth points! [Bowser] What's more girthy than a giant spiky shell?! That's worth 100 girth points!


 * Girth check on the body comin' up. That's where the real heavy comes from. [Mario] Woah, ho ho! You might be small, but you pack a punch of girth! Girth is a state of mind! You just got yourself another 10,000 girth points! [Peach] Unbelievable! You might be a slender thing, but you got a beefy spirit, girl! I wouldn't mess with a chick like you! You get 1,000,000 girth points! [Bowser] Look at this guy! Look him up in the dictionary, and he's the definition of girth! A superheavyweight right here! Bam... 10,000 girth points!


 * The sheer girthitude on display here is blowing my mind! There's no getting around it! You got heavy like I've never seen before! Any fool that gets in your way and you just HAVE to girth him up! Love it! Smash and squish those lightweights! You're goin' places with girth like that, and I wanna come along for the ride.


 * With our girths combined, nobody can stop us! But you gotta get out of this room first. Put my heavyweight power to work!

So what do you think? Should we allow transcripts, and if we do, find ways to translate any kind of emphasis into the format?

Proposer: Deadline: April 22, 2009, 17:00

Support

 * 1) - Per NES Boy. Random quotations are good and all, but having context for them makes them all the more valuable. Also, right now there's no real place to quote any narration, so if scripts in their entirety can be posted, we can include much more information.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo. A fantastic idea! It's a lot of work, but some hardworking gamers have already posted scripts to Gamefaqs. With their permission, that could save a lot of time.
 * 3) Per all. This is a truly ingenious idea. It improves the quality of the wiki so much, and makes it way more official.
 * 4) - Per Super Mario Bros, the wiki's quality will go up and that's never a bad thing.
 * 5) - Per all. It's a good idea.

Comments
As you said, it would be dificult to transcript those that involve character decisions, so that will make some scripts to be missing

I don't know if there would be problems with copyright and stuff, but apart from that it sounds like a great idea that could be useful for the wiki. I'm actually already working on a script of Mario is Missing!.

Removals
''None at the moment.

Merge or Delete Demo Articles
I am proposing that we delete or merge articles like The Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time. I think that if we keep this article as it is, there will be a whole bunch of Kirby, Zelda, and Metroid game articles. Therefore I am proposing to either merge or delete demo articles.

Proposer: Deadline: April 17, 2009, 20:00

Merge them into one Article

 * 1) - Most of the articles are stubs. This will use up less space here on the wiki.
 * 2) - Merge them in Masterpieces will be much better, they havent got images or category, a total stub
 * 3) - Per. An all-pupose masterpieces article seems about right.

Keep as it is

 * 1)  I am not sure what you are talking about. If you would go to my talk page and supply me with some examples of these demo articles, then I will definitely reconsider my vote. I personally don't think that pages should be deleted unless they do not supply efficient information and nobody on the wiki is doing a thing about it.

Delete

 * 1) First of all, there never were any metroid or zelda or kirby articles on this site. Second of all, If those pages exist, those pages would be against the rules anyway.

Comments
Zafum: Thats why they should be merged in 1 article, because they appear in SSBB, so theyre part of the Marioverse, the articles dont give complete info as if it were a Mario game, its just saying what appears in the demo, have you seen them?

"...they appear in SSBB, so theyre part of the Marioverse..." Please explain this assertion.

DKC T.V. Show Episodes
Okay, I was looking through the episodes of the old Donkey Kong Country TV series, and 27 out of 40 of the episodes were stub articles. In other words, about 67% of the episodes list were stubs, 33% were exceptional articles (and of that 33%, I think more could qualify for stub articles). What I am proposing is that we merge all the articles into one (of course, the articles that aren't stubs would just be linked to). That would reduce many of the stub articles and boost the quality of Super Mario Wiki up.


 * I have created a PipeProject that will deal with these types of articles. If this proposal is passed, and I get enough support for my PipeProject, I will work on condensing the episodes lists for all the T.V. shows into articles accordingly with their own shows.

Proposer: Deadline: April 19, 2009, 15:00

Merge

 * 1) Per my reasons above.

Leave As Is

 * No, merging some of the articles and leaving others separate wouldn't boost the wiki's quality up. It would make the wiki look rather unorganized. Those stub articles can easily be expanded, and I guess they are more likely to be expanded if they are kept separate.
 * 1) Merging the DKC TV show episodes into one article would mean we also must merge, for example, the SMW TV show episodes into one article, which are quite long enough. Also, most TV show articles are long enough, and merging all episodes of a show into one aricle would probarbly be SO long that it is worth too much KB. Plus, if most think merging the episodes AND the show into one, would be worth too much KB, maybe even some MB, all because it's making too long. Look at the SSBB article, it has already much.
 * 2) - Per the individual up there. It will look bad, its all or none (In few words, NO)
 * 3) I am in concurrence with the above users.
 * 4) - Per all.

Comments
I added a note on my proposal above. Besides, the articles for the episodes are not supposed to tell a whole story, but rather give a brief summary, which is why most of the articles are stubs.
 * Actually, the episode articles are supposed to tell the entire story. Same goes for all game, comic, movie and book articles too. -
 * Oh... Never mind then. Um... Forget that part of the argument! Still, many of the episodes articles can still be condensed and still have good quality. If any are still to long to include in a list of episodes with its text, then they can still be linked to. This would reduce the amount of stub articles and lower the number of huge articles while retaining major information.
 * But that would be inconsistant; if you wanna merge a group of articles (stubs or otherwise), you have to go all or nothing. -

Changes
''None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.