Talk:Wart

How was Wart Mentioned In Mario Superstar Baseball?FgFg 20:07, 4 January 2007 (EST)


 * Shy Guy's bio. Read the bio in the Shy Guy article. Paper Jorge

Oh Ok I get it Thanks.--Fg 20:11, 4 January 2007 (EST)

Wtf? Wart Jr? I doubt there is any proof...


 * I've always wondered about "Wart Jr." too. I don't think there is proof, and it seems like the connection is a pretty big stretch in the first place. I moved everything about Wart Jr. to the Trivia for now; it's worth mentioning, but nothing more, really. - 01:52, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Bros in Arms
Many links and connections state that Wart is Bowser's brother. Is this true?. i think this is true. should i add this in the article? User:MarioMaster720 18.01.2010
 * No, this is speculation and was never confirmed in any game. They don't even belong to the same species. - 15:04, 15 January 2010 (EST)
 * He's more likely prince froggy's father

I would understand if Wart is a "Bowser", or Bowser's frog counterpart. Doesn't they look kind of alike? No, but seriously, are Wart Jr. and Prince Froggy are one of his children? I want a proof.--Prince Ludwig 03:33, 6 March 2011 (EST)

Relationship section
Is there any point to it? Even by the crass standards of the relationship sections, this is one is supremely pointless as Wart is simply a random boss who shows up at the end of one game, is beaten and never interacts with anyone in any meaningful way. Everything in there is useless and far-fetched nonsense. --Glowsquid 08:05, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
 * There doesn't have to be a proposal to remove it, right?
 * No, there doesn't have to be a proposal (if we had to vote for every little thing, we'd never get anything done). Anyway, I agree with Glowsquid: that entire section is pretty awful and should be removed. Relationship sections should only really be used for major characters interacting with other major characters on a regular basis in a significant way (none of which is the case here). - 14:46, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

Ally?
What game did Wart appear as an ally other than the LoZ game?

None

Affiliations
Since the page is protected can anyone add Birdo and Mouser into the Affiliations section of the infobox please?--Yoshidude99 03:38, 7 May 2011 (EDT)

Can anyone understands about Wart and Yoshis? Wart don't have much affilitions on Mousers. The Page is blocked anyway. Hey, like Bowser's relations with the Koopa Troop, I've also tried to add Wart's relationships with the 8 bits, but someone edited the page by removing Yoshis, my informations is lost again. It's about Wart and 8-bits, I'll say it again.--Prince Ludwig 07:32, 7 May 2011 (EDT)
 * The 8-bits aren't really characters, so they wouldn't go in the "Relationships with other characters" section. Red_Yoshi_TTYD.png‎‎ Yoshi  waker  OrangeYoshiTTYD.png 08:25, 7 May 2011 (EDT)


 * Let's keep Wart and the Yoshis. If any other articles allow speculations, despite it's not allowed, we can add infos that aren't more of an issue. I don't see why I'm much of a problem on this article, I can't see why I can't, why shouldn't I add it? It's really disgusting, guys kept on removing the infos, to drive me crazy.--Prince Ludwig 12:36, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * You are wrong. No other article allows speculation. If you could provide examples, I could remove the speculation. It's actually a problem on every article. So we were right to remove that section. Red_Yoshi_TTYD.png‎‎ Yoshi  waker  OrangeYoshiTTYD.png 12:39, 12 May 2011 (EDT)


 * According to users before I joined, BS Super Mario USA is a sequel to Super Mario Bros. 2, because there are Golden Statues of Mario as a thanks for saving Subcon. But it was just a remake of Super Mario Bros. 2. And who said that Mushroom World is the planet where Mario reside? These are speculation too, yet it's allowed to keep them.


 * If I would remove these speculations, that would also be wrong for you, that would be right to remove these speculations because it's not allowed. So, I'm not wrong, neither or you. Nobody are wrong or right. Suggestions are very similar to speculations. And I'd say that Wart knows about the Yoshis.--Prince Ludwig 13:08, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * I believe the info about BS Super Mario USA is unclear since it is only Japanese, so we are unsure of things such as storyline. And of course Mario lives in the Mushroom World; 1. He was born there 2. Most Mario games take place there. You are wrong, because you claimed speculation was allowed. And just because you say Wart knows the Yoshis doesn't mean the game does. Red_Yoshi_TTYD.png‎‎ Yoshi  waker  OrangeYoshiTTYD.png 13:35, 12 May 2011 (EDT)


 * Yeah, you were unsure, so you add that speculation that BS Super Mario USA is the sequel/psuedo sequel after Super Mario Bros. 2 or The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. Well, duh Mario lives on Mushroom World, it's the greater location of Mushroom Kingdom. The term only existed in Super Mario Bros. 3, it was unclear that it was the planet of Mario. Yet, you clealy says it was the planet of Mario. As for Mushroom Universe, I've never heard about it. I may be wrong saying that speculations are allowed, everybody broke the rules for not adding speculations, there are a lot of speculations allowed in lots of articles without removing them. Please, no "just because this, doesn't mean that" excuses. I know them very well.--Prince Ludwig 13:52, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * Even if we did allow speculation, this information would be useless and really isn't a relationship at all, should Francis have a super long relationship page because he might have information on Princess Peach, Whacka, Petuni, Punio, Vivian, The Yoshi kid, a Bub-ulber, Pennington, NES, GameCube, SNES, a Game Boy, a Virtual Boy, A Tanooki Suit, and Magnus von Grapple?


 * Princess Peach and Toad aren't much of a threat to Wart, since he crossed path with Mario and Luigi the most. Adding them for simply telling that Wart hate them for interfaring with his plans along with Mario is a speculation to me...Wart and Yoshis aren't useless than Wart, Peach and Toad, because it is a much interesting speculation. We also expects Wart meeting Yoshi, hoping to see why Birdo goes to Mario's side. lol--Prince Ludwig 14:27, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * How is that interesting? It's completely useless information to me, and the entire relationship section is a load of crap anyways. Someone already suggested wiping it all out. And, please get it through your head speculation is not allowed, so if another article has speculation in it, then we'll do something about that too. Just because one article is against policy and the rules, doesn't mean you can go forth and add speculation to every article you see.

And get it through your head there are many speculations you are currently keeping. If it's that wrong that you say it is, it's up to you to erase all of these speculations. And somethings tell me you are not a big fan of Mario.--Prince Ludwig 14:48, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * Yes, I hate Mario. I totally do. Show me some of this speculation and I will burn it in a fire.
 * If you hate Mario, forget it. But I'll keep Wart and Yoshi. I said I, of course. If you really want to erase a speculation, start by Mushroom World, let's see if you will...--Prince Ludwig 14:58, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
 * If you want to keep speculation, make your own wiki where it is allowed. and he was being sarcastic. Red_Yoshi_TTYD.png‎‎ Yoshi  waker  OrangeYoshiTTYD.png 14:59, 12 May 2011 (EDT)


 * Mushroom World is in no way speculative at all...

15:04, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

The category has disappeared...Maybe I should restore it. Nah, I guess we should keep it like it, I think it's fair enough. At least, the guy would have kept Mario or Birdo. :( --Prince Ludwig 11:11, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

King Wart Mamu
Should Wart's full name be King Wart Mamu, since most of the chatacters' japanese name turned to be their family name? Like Bowser's name is Koopa.--Prince Ludwig 15:38, 17 May 2011 (EDT)
 * No, Mamu is the name given to Wart in Japan. It's not a surname. In Japan, Koopa is not a surname either; he is just King Koopa because his Japanese name is only Kuppa.

Wart based on Kaerus
I see...Even in enlish, Mamu is spelled "Mamou". Is Wart actually based on a fictional かえる kaeru? It means frog. But most of ficional frogs in video games are based on Japanese frogs. Because they have white belly.--Prince Ludwig 16:00, 17 May 2011 (EDT)

Remove The Zelda-series appearances of Wart from the article (and gallery)
First off this is a Mario wiki and we talk only about the Mario series and the info we include should talk only of the Mario series appearances, not other series like zelda - they have their own wiki you know. And also counts the pictures that show (artworks and screenshots). This kind of info can be added to the trivia section or taken to the Game References.

No
I don't think so. Wart's appearance in that game is rather official than a cameo. Mario series has link to other games. If it is a Mario wiki, Solid Snake wouldn't appear here. His appearance in Zelda series makes since in a different way. He wouldn't stay and reside in Subcon after being hated by the Subcons and the rest of the inhabitants after his invasion in the world. So Wart went to Koholint land. You said it's a Mario Wiki. It is linked to other series and it doesn't have any Zelda articles yet because Link didn't appear in a Main Mario Game.--Prince Ludwig 01:32, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 * That's speculation, though. It is simply a cameo and nothing more. 01:37, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 * No it isn't. That's not speculation. It would have words similar to "may". It's not a cameo appearance. It's cameo to you because of a Non-Mario Zelda game. BS Super Mario USA would have been speculation. Now it isn't because it would make sense that Wart returns to steal statues of his nemesis, Mario.--Prince Ludwig 01:46, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 * "Make sense" is the part that shows it is speculation: unless you can say it is a 100% proven fact confirmed directly by Nintendo that he is there because he needed to escape from Subcon, then your point is moot and you are simply speculating that he moved there because of that. Also, from the way you worded your first post, it seems you don't even understand our wiki's coverage policy or anything of the sort. So, please, go read up and come back when you know what you are talking about (no offense intended; trying to debate what we cover when you do not know our coverage policy isn't too grand). 09:37, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 * See? BS Super Mario USA is a speculative information. I was right. I said makes sense about he would come back for revenge by stealing the Mario statues. It was never a sequel or psuedo-sequel in the first place. So I'll remove it. And how would he escape Subcon? I said after his punishment, he went to Koholing Island. Read correctly before telling something I've never did and never wrote in the first place. Even I do or don't understand the Policy, you didn't totally understand what I wrote and you're keep on talking like I wrote it first before Coincollector came out of nowhere. What users removed aren't what I wrote or meant. And it wasn't a CAMEO appearance, I keep telling users that this game was linked to Mario and other games. Sorry, I'm mad of course.--Prince Ludwig 18:00, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Shoot, didn't have you deal with this? At least I should understand that you didn't write this, but keeping the info makes you to get involved in these problems. Also, this a Legend of Zelda Game, is not a crossover or something of this kind like Super Smash Bros or Mario & Sonic. They are recurrent characters, not protagonists of the series. Your way to deduce Wart escaped from subcon is irrelevant and speculative so stop insisting, or else a block period will give you time to think of it. -- 18:47, 30 May 2011 (EDT)
 * Am I speaking chinese? Where did I wrote that Wart escaped Subcon? Where? I said, after getting defeated (I said punished, yeah I did), he went to Koholint Island. Yeah, I kept the infos, but most of the users were involved with the edits, and they said nothing until Coincollector came over. Link's Awakening is a Zelda Game, so what? It has Mario enemies and the have the antagonist of the Mario series, Wart. He also appeared there. You guys always act like other series shouldn't be involved, linked or connected to Mario because you don't want them to like they are inferior or something. Why do you guys always act when I'm peacefully editing the info kept for 4 years?


 * And can I ask you one thing. Should I really remove the speculative and unconfirmed infos from BS Super Mario USA?--Prince Ludwig 19:01, 30 May 2011 (EDT)