MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge Koopasta with Koopasta Dish. (Discuss) Passed
 * Resize the Costume Mario costumes. (Discuss) Deadline: September 30, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Revamp the images on the Trick page. (Discuss) Deadline: October 2, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Overhaul the "Aliases" and the "Occupations" sections in the Mario article. (Discuss) Deadline: October 5, 2015, 23:59 GMT

MarioWiki:Quotes
Everything is explained here.

I think, so that people don't come along and say "Well, he said it that makes it a quote" we should have a guideline page to explain real quotes and pseudo-quotes.

Proposer: Deadline: October 6, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) My proposal

Oppose

 * 1) - Just use common sense to remove useless quotes: we already went over this less than a month ago with a different proposal. A policy page is unnecessary, just the same as how "remove stupid quotes" proposals are unnecessary: just remove bad quotes like you would with bad writing, and if there's disagreements, take it the talk page. Plus, it's better to not have rigid rules for things like this, as Bazooka Mario discusses in the comments, so really, the draft is more restrictive than anything else, which is not good.
 * 2) Per. A general rule of thumb is that if there is certain problem easily identifiable and fixable with simple good judgement, then it doesn't require a policy page.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per. Just per.

Comments
Why create a policy page when we can simply use good judgement to decide whenever a quote is meaningful or not? Also, some parts of your policy is vague. "Let's go" is technically a complete sentence (subject is invisible "you", verb is "let") with logical words and phrases, but it's a super generic quote. What do you mean by "Is this quote used by multiple other characters?"? Is the answer supposed to be "no" for a quote to qualify? Also, I think the best question to ask is if the quote illustrates the character. Besides, some quotes that do illustrate a character properly would technically not qualify, such as Mario's "Mama mia" since it is generic and not a complete sentence, and Metal Mario's "Mia mama" because it is not a coherent sentence. The first illustrates Mario since it's iconic while the latter illustrates Metal Mario for being a parody of Mario's quote. Also, "Let's-a go!" would also be omitted despite being an iconic quote as well. I think the "gibberish" and "screaming" sections can be integrated into a more umbrella "onomatopoeia and interjections" section (at least that sounds more technical), but again, those two are easily identifiable, so I don't think policy is needed for this.

Even if the policy is needed, it probably needs to be better written. I know it's your first crack at something like this, but the draft strikes me as very incomplete, and the proposal by content itself feels very... brisk and rushed, as if you didn't put a whole lot of thought into this, frankly. For starters, in the draft, you've provided only examples without explaining them. I suggest you actually explain first and provide examples as support rather than making them stand alone. It seems like you really want to push it, but I suggest just jump in the quote pages now rather than use the draggy proposal process. 17:44, 22 September 2015 (EDT)

I would argue that Baby Luigi imitating engine noises does add to his personality unlike the WAAAAAHHHHHs and the HEEEHEEEHEEEES, but eh, can someone else not named Baby Luigi make that argument? 17:46, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
 * Mario imitates engine noises too, you know (wheelie in Mario Kart Wii). Actually, a lot of characters do this, including Luigi in Mario Strikers, and those "zoom zoom" quotes that I can't pinpoint. I don't see Baby Luigi's as particularly unique or defining his character. But if you're desperate, use an .ogg file and put it in Baby Luigi's gallery rather than put it into a quote page. 17:48, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
 * You know, we really need to get a better .ogg sound library around here. It's only barely been implemented ever since, I don't know months or a year ago. 17:55, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
 * Wait, another thought, can we transform the list of quotes page into a gallery of .oggs instead? 17:55, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
 * That, I'm not too keen on, since I don't intend MarioWiki to be a repository of sound files for Viewers Like You™, although I've been thinking about integrating voice effects into quote pages in a separate gallery. I think I actually settled for putting those VFX in media pages such as here, but I don't think it would be a hassle to put VFX in quote pages as well. 18:00, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
 * Maybe the sound files would make sense for the "onomatopeia and intejections" section, while the quote should be in written form (the reader may not be in a situation where a sound output is possible, but of course onomatopeia and interjections in written form are of little use).--Mister Wu (talk) 12:05, 23 September 2015 (EDT)
 * List of Mario Kart 8 media provides a good example of a sample of quotes in audio format: the file names are descriptive enough to tell you what the audio quote is, and the audio table template itself provides an option for a caption. But otherwise, onomatopoeia and interjections serve little use in our wiki since they tell so little of the character usually. 14:45, 23 September 2015 (EDT)

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