Talk:Undergrunt

Should the Undergrunts be related to Monty Mole or not?
I wanted to discuss this topic to see what the Mario Wiki thinks about the moles in Mario Galaxy being Monty Mole species or not. Yes, I do know that we classify them as unrelated as of now, but I made this proposal due to some people still thinking they are related even after the agreement of them being not. So anyways, I am curious on what this wiki thinks about these mole species being related or not.

Proposer: Deadline: December 13, 2021 23:59 GMT

Option 1: They are most likely unrelated to the Monty Mole species, due to no concrete info saying otherwise.

 * 1) I do not see why some people say that they are Monty Mole species. Nobody ever says other moles not confirmed to be Monty Mole species are related to Monty Moles so I do not see why the Undergrunts get a pass since they also have no official sources stating them as Monty Mole species. So yeah, I believe that the moles in Super Mario Galaxy were meant to be a separate mole species unrelated to Monty Mole. I only think people confused them as being related because of them being in a main series game and having a few similarities to the Monty Mole species.

Option 4: They are most likely related or are relatives to the Monty Mole species, due to some of the similarities or the German name.

 * 1) - There's too many design similarities (especially to the early days, note the cheeks) for it to be a coincidence. While I wouldn't call them a "variant" without more concrete evidence, I think relative is fine.

Comments
I think saying they are comparable is the best option due to the similarities. And also for the fact that they are never confirmed to be related at all. Ragumo at least was mentioned of being a Monty Mole relative yet the Undergrunts were not (for all we know). I believe that Undergrunts were probably at least inspired by Monty Moles, I just don’t think they are meant to be related to them since if they were, a guidebook would most likely claim them to be Monty Mole species like Ragumo (I have not checked any Japanese guidebooks so maybe they say that they are related in those? If they do could someone check it out?). I was wondering about that German name for Undergrunt Gunner? What would that play into this? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 18:07, November 30, 2021 (EST)