MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals
Deadline: December 24, 2013 23:59 GMT
 * Decide the identity of the character Toad in Super Mario 3D World. (Discuss) Deadline: December 4, 2013, 23:59 GMT. Passed.
 * Rename Spike Pillar to (Discuss) Deadline: December 10, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Green Power Star with Green Star (Super Mario 3D World). (Discuss) Deadline: December 16, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Make Diddy's Dash its own page. (Discuss)

Writing Guidelines
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New features
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Removals
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Merge Dream Team enemies' articles with their "R" version
Looking at the Mario & Luigi: Dream Team enemy articles, I have noticed that the page content of the "original" enemies and the "R" versions of the same enemy are almost identical. What I suggest is to merge the two pages together, not only for the reason that I stated, but also because they have identical behavior, attacks, and appearance, except that they have a color change, exactly like EX versions, which do not have their own page. (See Flibbee and Flibbee R to see what I mean, or Monolift and Monolift R) Proposer: Deadline: December 16, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) Makes sense
 * 3) I seems like R pages are almost duplicates, it makes sense to merge them.
 * 4) If they are practically the exact same thing, then it would definitely make sense to merge them.
 * 5) We did this with MLBIS bosses.
 * 6) per all.

Oppose

 * 1) I'm gonna have to oppose this one. These types of enemies are stronger variations of previous enemies and they are classified as different enemies, not the same ones. Bringing in this proposal, we split the 2 minigames because they were classified as different minigames, despite having the same rules and essentially being the same minigame. Enemies should be no different. If anything, we should split the X Bosses because they have a slightly different appearance and are all around stronger.
 * 2) - I've been mulling it over for the past few days, and I'm gonna have to oppose as well. If a variant of an enemy is stronger and has different colours and a different name, saying "well the name's only different by one letter" actually is a bit arbitrary, and opens the door to merges like the Behemoth / Behemoth King thing being asked about in the comments. It's a slippery slope, and it'd be much more straightforward and consistent to simply split the articles that have been merged thus far and keep it like that. Plus, it'll make navigation more transparent than burying the extra enemies in other pages, which improves the ease of both reading and searching for those enemies.
 * 3) Per both.
 * 4) No way. If we end up doing this then it could start to warrant changes such as merging all the emotional enemies from Super Princess Peach with their neutral counterparts. If you use the argument that they're more powerful, well then, Tanooki Mario is a more powerful of Raccoon Mario, so then we would have to merge them, along with White Tanooki Mario. It would just start a vicious cycle.
 * 5) Per Tails and Walkazo, they're different enemies even if they have similar names/stats.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per Tails and Walkazo.

Comments
You know, if we're going through with this, there may as well be proposals to deal with the other identical recolours from the other RPG games with them for consistency.
 * Heck, even throw in Behemoth King in this

If we plan to go with many enemies that are like this, does that mean we'd merge Ember and Phantom Ember with Lava Bubble, just because they are stronger versions of it?

Well, if this fails, god do something about the copy-paste. It just ruins both articles. -- 12:01, 9 December 2013 (EST)

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