MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split from Paragoomba. (Discuss) Deadline: July 4, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Split and  from Koopa Kid. (Discuss) Deadline: July 9, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Gold Mario (character) to Gold Mario (form) (Discuss) Deadline: July 9, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Kat and Ana's Swords with Kat and Ana (Discuss) Deadline: July 10, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Giant Star with Grand Star (Discuss) Deadline: July 13, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Dribble and Spitz's taxi with Dribble and Spitz (Discuss) Deadline: July 15, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Delete Super MakerMatic 21 (Discuss) Deadline: July 15, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Create Easter Egg Pages
We have glitch and beta element pages, not to mention the Easter Egg page, so I suggest we make pages like "Super Mario 3D Land/Easter Eggs". This would include the UFO, the weird alien at the end of that one ghost house, and any other easter eggs ingame.

Thoughts?

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) I kinda like this idea and I do agree with you. It's convenient to have a list article.

Oppose

 * No, the easter egg page should be in the rispective articles.
 * 1) - Per Ghost Jam and Mario in the comments: subpages are unnecessary, just focus on fixing up Easter egg and maybe adding sections in applicable game pages.
 * 2) There just aren't enough easter eggs in any given game to split off their own page. They're just fine being incorporated into the article.
 * 3) Per Vommack.
 * 4) Per Vommack.
 * 5) Per Vommack and Walkazo.
 * 6) Per Walkazo.
 * 7) Per my comments below.
 * 8) Per all.

Comments
Are there enough Easter Egg in each game to merit it's own articles?
 * I don't think there should be it is own article on Easter Eggs. It should be within it is appropriate article. 02:41, 28 June 2014 (EDT)

I'd be much more in favor of either expanding Easter Egg to include everything we have documentation of or working Easter egg sections into relevant articles. -- Chris 02:53, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * To be honest, I think that this would easily go into the Glitches section, but the idea of "Easter Eggs" is so vague, it would be better not to include them at all. -  03:17, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Easter Egg's article formatting is terrible, though, so it probably needs some overhauling. 03:25, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I mean an Eater Egg is such abroad subject, such as a minor glitch, background image or course development. It isn't really worth bothering to make or include. Like the Book that appears in Sunshine would likely fall into an Easter Egg section, but it's in the glitches. Other things, such 3D World's Zelda based stage, is easily mentioned in the article or trivia. I would rather get rid of it altogether and find a better place for the info. - 03:30, 28 June 2014 (EDT)

Okay, I see that no one wants a new page. But notice that there are no sections for this either? Easter eggs aren't given enough attention. Peanutjon (talk) 22:44, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Removals
None at the moment.

Improving Mario Party boards articles
I was looking on DK's Jungle Board from Mario Party and I find that the article isn't completely right. There are some improvements that can be made not only in this article, but in every article.
 * A map and a space counter would be useful to let the reader know all the infos on the board. By doing so, the reader can know the difficulty of the course in games that are not Mario Party. And having a map would be useful in boards where there isn't an image (like Eternal Star).
 * Adding headers for results screen and events would be useful. Writing everything in a single paragraph don't help the reader to read. So the opinion is making a level 2 header for the plot before and after playing, another level 2 headers for the event that are splitted in level 3 headers (something like this is in DK's Jungle Ruins from Mario Party 9).

(Please don't write your name in "Oppose" if you're wrong with an idea; instead, if you can't tollerate the articles with one of my ideas, write it in the comments! Thanks for reading and understanding!)

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) It's my proposal.
 * 2) This is a good idea, because more useful info will be added to these articles.
 * 3) As long as the info is relevant with the boards, I'm fine with that.
 * 4) Awesome. Stuff like star locations should be good too, since they appeared in like six spaces in the GCN versions with no randomization at all.
 * 5) As noted in the comments below, this doesn't need to be a proposal, either bring it up on the forums or individual article talk pages. That said, I agree with the principle behind this.

Comments
This doesn't need a proposal at all. If the information is official and it will help organize things better, go for it! The list of orbs/items/spaces and boards weren't the result of a proposal, it was the result of ways to organize the article better and a general improvement 15:50, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Although if you're going to make a major revamp on a lot of pages, I'd suggest making an example on a sandbox page and running it past a few users for their opinions.--Vommack (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I did similar things when I was new(er). Like making a proposal about making a tennis court template. You don't actually need this proposal, I mean look at what happened to Toad Highlands thanks to me and . It's become the set standard to making or improving golf course articles. Therefore you may do a similar thing here. I'd be willing to help. - 17:10, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Here you go! For both samples go here: User:Tsunami/Sandbox
 * I don't know about you, but I think the extensively detailed spaces are kinda ugly, they could fit into a nicely organized table. There are so many sections with very small amount of information. I guess it would be better if the whole events section was merged with the starting paragraph. Here is a link of how the article would look like as in your sandbox.-- 06:33, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
 * After looking better, you're right... Maybe the spaces can go on the main page or in the Space page. The main reason I propose this was the events that need expansion (the Coin Stone thing isn't in the article). But I think that the Jungle Adventure page is disorganized... Another way is making the "Layout" section, with a general description, then the subsection "Events"... but "Plot" I think that would remain (and I was thinking about merging quotes with it).
 * Too many headers: better to merge the Ending with Plot and get rid of the subheaders for the events, and as mentioned earlier, the space counter could be a small table in the the Layout section. A few other things also need fixing up with that draft. I made my own revision to the sandbox to show my ideas of how it could be done (minus the chart). -
 * OK, now it is good. But since there are some supports, I think that I can keep this until the deadline to see if we can make even better the basis. I'll edit my sanbox

That spaces should be organized by a table or something. The current format looks bleh. --Vommack (talk) 09:33, 1 July 2014 (EDT)

On another note, should we also put on the map where star spaces can be? Metal Boo (talk) 15:10, 1 July 2014 (EDT)
 * Yes, I think that, but without a formatted map it will be though. And for games that are not Mario Party (I found a useful FAQ time ago) it will be very though...

Moving DIY quotes to top page
I think that the description quotes from the minigames shall be on the top of the page (since there are 90 pages to modify it's better to ask).

Proposer: Deadline: July 5, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) I think it looks better than having the description all by itself in a section with just one old sentence.

Oppose

 * 1) I don't see why it should be moved from the infobox.
 * 2) Per Vommack.
 * 3) Meh, it looks messier that way. If you're dying to know what actually happens in Hide and Go BOOM!, then read the article.
 * 4) Per Vommack.
 * 5) - The info's fine where it is, helping to make the pages seem more substantial.

Comments
I don't get what page you're talking about. Can you link it for me? 15:51, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I think he means put a quote at the top of the Minigame article that states the info that the game puts info on. It's rather trivial to be honest, and doesn't really merit a proposal anyway, but he could mean that he's going to simply move it up the page more. So is this supposed to move it up the page or create a quote at the top? - 17:17, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Look at my sandbox
 * The has to go above the quote. -

Rewrite some of the help pages to make them less complicated
I have noticed that some of the help pages aren't too clear about what you're supposed to do and that may misguide a lot of newbies on the Wiki. Help pages on Userbox templates for example, aren't pretty clear on how to make the color changes and don't contain the color codes and that isn't straightforward for a newbie to do. The rewrite of the pages would make them explained in clear detail and it will tell the newbie on what code should be entered with a table on the commands that they can use including their functionality. They look hard for some newbies to understand correctly and they will be confused so I'd figured the Wiki can have the pages rewritten so that everyone can understand it. That just makes things less complicated

Proposer: Deadline: July 11, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Rewrite

 * 1) Per my proposal.

Keep pages as is

 * 1) Listing all the color codes would be completely impractical, and it's not that hard to just swap out some code.
 * 2) I cann't see the point of it... I know that Help:Template have a expand template (LOL) but the others are OK. And if a new user cann't unterstand something, just ask to someone!
 * 3) - If a Help page (or any other official policy page) is lacking, you can always make a new draft yourself and show it to the admins for approval: you don't even need proposals for that. You could also use the Wiki Collabs board to highlight specific pages that need work and ask admins or other users to help. Either way, a Proposal vaguely calling for Help pages in general to be rewritten is the wrong way to go about this.
 * 4) Per Walkazo.
 * 5) Per all.

Comments
Just so you know, if you need help, you can contact another user.  At last, the rock fell.
 * Whoops I didn't know that there is no need for a proposal like this but I find it hard to re word the help pages and I want to see if the Wiki community agrees with the idea or not.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.