MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge Toad City with Toad's Turnpike. (Discuss) Deadline: June 9, 23:59 GMT.
 * Merge Green Power Star with Green Star (Super Mario 3D World) (Discuss) Deadline: June 14, 23:59 GMT.
 * 3D World Toad is or isn't Toad. (Discuss) Deadline: June 16, 23:59 GMT.
 * Mario's Tennis is or isn't part of the Mario Tennis series. (Discuss) Deadline: June 19, 23:59 GMT.

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment.

Removals
None at the moment.

Create mother articles for Mario Kart tires & gliders
Looking back at a nearly 2-month-old proposal by, I noticed that there's no mother articles for tires or gliders. Therefore, I propose that we create the said articles, so that they have a little info, as well as direct links and photos of the tire and glider customization from 7 and 8.

Proposer: Deadline: June 12, 2014, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) Does this really warrant a proposal?
 * 4) I think it will be useful! Good idea!
 * 5) This is a great idea! I have been thinking about doing this for a while, but never got around to it, but now it is in a proposal, we can actually do it! It would also keep all the parts much more organized. Per proposal.
 * 6) We have kart articles, so we should have tire and glider articles.

Comments
@Stonehill In your proposal, could you add creating a page entitled ? I think this would also help with your idea and it would keep all parts on one page. 13:47, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

What Ninelevendo said. For the most part, a proposal isn't necessary to create and article, just make it if you think you can pull it off. If it doesn't work out, people will step in and it'll be handled. -- Chris 17:10, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

@Mario7 The problem with this is, the wiki may have had such a combined page, but it was probably removed or split.  At last, the rock fell. 20:21, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

Write quotes with ambiguity in a more formal manner
That is to say, for example, a quote written like this:

He told me to follow you around this place.

Is instead written like this:

'' [ Bowser ] told me to follow you around [ World 1 ]. (said to Mario)''

Proposer: Deadline: June 12, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Oppose

 * 1) Why would you change quotes to incorrect and confusing quotes?
 * 2) Nope, in this way quotes lose all their fashion! Completely supporting Ninelevendo!
 * 3) I see your point, and while it is more formal to do that in some instances, the way they are done now are considered correct under the right circumstances, which they are.
 * 4) Per myself in the comments, we'll be supplying false quotes if we follow this.
 * 5) - Best to just leave listed quotes exactly as they were in the source material, otherwise it makes the information less authentic and useful, even if the changes are marked with square brackets (which is already done when using quotes in articles to back up statements and whatnot).
 * 6) - Per all, our current method serves our needs better.
 * 7) That's not what the quote is, and... it's kinda strange, so Per everyone.
 * 8) There would be a policy against this already. Per Ninelevendo, Mario7, Yoshi876, Walkazo, and Koopakoolklub.
 * 9) The links, while sometimes kind of dumb, clarify who or what the speaker is referring to, so it's NOT ambiguous as it is claimed here. Altering quotes just makes it more confusing, not less.

Comments
What is this trying to accomplish exactly? And since when do we write You? - 01:53, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

I need this explaining, because it looks like you're changing the example quote to something different, which means that it is no longer a quote from that game.

In general this would only be needed in cases where the subject isn't clear, but we generally don't use quotes like that where quotes are needed, in fact I can't think of any off the top of my head. Can you provide me with a link to any articles where this is going to make a difference? -- Chris 03:41, 5 June 2014 (EDT)


 * I knew this would happen. :P But anyway, here are some examples of what I'm talking about:  RickTommy (talk) 04:19, 5 June 2014 (EDT)
 * My issue is that looking at that, you have changed some of the comments by removing "he's" and replacing them with "Bowser" or whatever, thus changing the quote and making it incorrect.
 * The thing is, that's the formal way of writing quotes with ambiguity - by changing pronouns to the name of the character they are referring to, and putting them in square brackets. RickTommy (talk) 04:24, 5 June 2014 (EDT)
 * The thing is though, that is how the quote is said so if we transcribe it like your way we'll be supplying false quotes.
 * Not precisely. A quote is still fundamentally correct if all that is changed is a "btw, context" to the reader, court documents and reporting outlets use this method, as clarity is more important than keeping a few He's and She's. That said, I wanted an example because I didn't think we had many articles that used quotes that would need and our current method of just linking indicators off to relevant articles seems to be working fine with less visual clutter. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 17:05, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

@RickTommy I have another solution for you. Try taking cues around the links of the quotes. They should tell you which context is which. Stonehill (talk) 20:31, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

I guess we should reproduce the quote as much as possible.. In case of the undefined subjects, we have one of the two options: If we have an article on that subject, we can use pipe-linking to remove any doubts about who exactly is that subject? [e.g: Bowser : "I hate him very much."]. There, we kept the quote and identified the subject.. Otherwise, If we don't have the subject as an article (I cannot think of use of that here), we can add something about who the character is talking about [e.g: Guy1 : "If I didn't return by 11:00, he is going to kill me for sure." (About his father)] or if that is not acceptable, we can use something like that. (i.e: "If I didn't return by 11:00, he is going to kill me for sure.) In all cases, we don't have any reason to change the quote.-- 07:27, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.