User talk:Lord Falafel

Hey
As long as you aren't doing anything wrong, you don't need to worry about being a vandal or troll. If you did something wrong, someone will let you know, so you don't need to say that with every message.

That said, when checking information on any wiki (especially wikia), make sure your sources are correct. Luigi definitely didn't debut on a Game Watch seven years after his actual debut, and I never heard of those games. 21:36, May 22, 2019 (EDT)

I meant Luigi's hammer toss game was the first game to give Luigi his first role without Mario. It was his first solo game. I know you haven't heard of those games. But now you have. I must make sure your knowledge of how many Mario games, donkey kong games, Tetris games and Mario character games that are not Mario's own games there are is expanded along with the knowledge of all the other wiki members. Not that you're dumb, but you just don't have everything covered. I can help this wiki mention all of those games. Please let me help you. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:48, May 22, 2019 (EDT)

We got super Mario bros pinball back on the list! We did it! I have a question. How often should I make edits to the list? Lord Falafel (talk) 12:13, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * (Apparently a pinball machine counts as an arcade)
 * If there's any games missing, they should be added. I don't know if we should include Flash games or not, though. 12:18, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

We should. And the play Nintendo games. And all the other games I sent you. Including the arcade games. They are all made and endorsed by Nintendo. I'll add some games right now. If a page for a game doesn't exist, please make one. If you wish to find the donkey kong pinball machine with no country in the title that is less common than the donkey kong country pinball machine and both are tabletop electronic pinball games and not life size machines like super Mario bros pinball or super Mario bros mushroom world, or any of the other games I told you about, you can find them through the sources I mentioned. It's a little tricky it seems for me to add new systems and platforms for some of my sent games. So, I need you to add Adobe flash, play Nintendo, the Nintendo arcade series called Nintendo super system, the electronic tabletop pinball machines and project Atlantis. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:36, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * Where are you getting the Game Watch information from, anyway? 13:35, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

3 sources: list of Mario games Mariowiki fandom powered by wikia (the list of games in alphabetical order), list of games featuring Mario Wikipedia and game watch guys. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:44, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * The wikia and Wikipedia themselves are not valid sources. Who are the Game Watch guys? 13:45, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * And looking at Wikipedia's list, there's nothing about Luigi's Hammer Throw, Mario's Egg Catch, or Toadstool's Castle Run. 13:48, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I thought they were valid sources. These are real games and their release dates and regions and manufacturers are correct. They were all endorsed by Nintendo. Please trust me and please keep these games on the list. The game watch guys are people on a website called gamewatchguys.com and they archive wrist watch LCD games from different developers. They've done a pretty good job archiving all those tiny little watches and gathering their information. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:50, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * It's not that I don't trust you, it's that I don't trust the source. The Game Watch Guys seem valid as they actually have images of the Game Watches to go with the titles.
 * But unless you can prove the titles on Wikia and Wikipedia exist, they aren't going to stay on the list. 13:53, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Look up list of Mario games. If you find a page called list of Mario games Mariowiki fandom powered by wikia, click on it. The one that lists the games alphabetically. That page has the 3 games you just told me. Wikipedia doesn't. Wikipedia also doesn't mention Dr Mario game watch, but the game watch guys do. And they seem pretty reliable. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:54, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * ahem. Can't tell if it's official, but it likely is. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:56, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * Again, Wikia is not a valid source themselves. They can have sources of their own, though, which can be valid.
 * Looking more on the Game Watch Guys site, I found watches branded under "Nintendo". These include the three games, with images even, which is all I was asking for. 13:58, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Well, Google images can show you the images of all of them except for super Mario bros 2. There's also a YouTube channel called sly dc who uploads videos of game watches and some of them I mentioned are on his channel. Unfortunately, information on the super Mario bros 2 watch is scarce and I can't seem to find any images on it. There might be websites that mention all the other watches. Take off the super Mario bros 2 watch only because the other games have images on Google and reliable sources. If I find anymore information about super Mario bros 2 watch and an image, I'll let you know. I better add other games. Lord Falafel (talk) 14:07, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Maybe I should edit in extra platforms. It's not that bad. I did 1, I should do the others sometime soon. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:27, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

My Mario motors link is leading to the recurring Mario kart element, rather than the build for the unreleased Mario kart game of the same name and I think we should take super Mario world game watch off the toys category and give it a page of it's own. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:01, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * List_of_unreleased_media 16:08, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Help me with project Atlantis and virtual boy. I messed up their libraries. Mario's castle is an unreleased game for an unreleased Nintendo console and because of my editing mistake, it says on the list of games organized by system that it was a virtual boy game and none of the virtual boy games are under the virtual boy anymore. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:20, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I fixed the problem. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:27, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

What is Super Mario Bros. 3 (Mini Piccadilly)? 16:53, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Another game in the toys category that I think should not be there. It's the arcade pachi slot game. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:10, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I added the arcade game called Mario world without the super and the link leads to a place in super Mario RPG: legend of the seven stars. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:09, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I did it. I added all the games. Lord Falafel (talk) 09:50, May 24, 2019 (EDT)

Now I added all the games. I think. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:01, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

Consecutive edits
Hello, please use the "Show preview" button, so you can iron out mistakes before saving rather than flooding the recent changes with lots of minor edits. Thanks! 16:55, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * In response to this, the show preview button is to the left of the save button. 21:24, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Is that how I make a gap in between the electronic tabletop pinball machines and the game watches? Just asking. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:39, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I made the same mistake twice. This is what I have to type down in order for systems to have gaps.
 * } Lord Falafel (talk) 21:46, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Now, I don’t want to get banned for a fake reminder, but you have been asked Not to flood the page, but you still do it. Please stop. If I made a mistake in this, please tell me. 21:49, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I will stop flooding it. But I can't help it if my memory is bad. I just need to make one more platform article with games and that will be it, unless I find more games and systems. I sincerely apologize for causing you so much trouble. I will edit that last platform tomorrow. I should slow down and take a break. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:21, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

I decided that I should write down 2 more platforms and the other platform has a game. But the one I mentioned first has lots of games. But I will do that tomorrow. And because I probably live in a distant part of the earth, probably thousands of miles away from all of you, time is different all around the world and tomorrow where I live is a certain amount of time away. But I will make those 2 edits tomorrow, one of which is pretty long. Oh and I'm appealing you. Lord Falafel (talk) 23:14, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

Fine, I won't appeal you. Lord Falafel (talk) 23:17, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * *sigh* edit another artical then you can edit list of games 3 more times, article, 3 more times. Etc... But if you don’t... then a warning will be issued, also, go to the desktop version. Click edit at the top. Then you can edit the entire page, thanks. 09:43, May 24, 2019 (EDT)

No need. My work here is done, unless I find more games and systems. There's nothing left for me to edit. You're not gonna give me a warning for not editing the page, are you? Not trying to be mean. Lord Falafel (talk) 09:49, May 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * Edit one more time and I will, please, edit more things, it seems like you have great intel, please stay and help, just make sure to read the rules. 09:51, May 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * If you need help editing, ask an administer or rules, admins are names that are Light blue, Green, purple, and/or the maker of the wiki, Porplemontage, name in orange. 09:57, May 24, 2019 (EDT)

I don't need help editing. All I did was forget to type |} Lord Falafel (talk) 10:01, May 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * ? Ok??? 10:03, May 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * Since the reminder, Lord Falafel is not doing anything wrong. 11:17, May 24, 2019 (EDT)

Thank you for defending me. I'm going to make more edits. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:33, May 25, 2019 (EDT)

I think I fixed my last self mistakes. And right now, I don't have anymore information about missing games, systems or ports. If I ever get another notice, I want it to be genuine. But I hope I don't. I've been very helpful in adding missing content. I hope you're all grateful for that. I don't need any notices, warnings or bans. Without me, you guys wouldn't have this stuff covered. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:49, May 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * Wow. That is incredibly rude.
 * Thanks for finding more information on the games, though making the pages to provide sources and information should be the next step. Considering how simple the Game Watch titles are, I wonder if we can just make a large article...  12:56, May 28, 2019 (EDT)

I think we can. And if we do, the super Mario bros 3 watch will have to lose it's own page and be with the other game watches on one page. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:03, May 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * Actually, the way our coverage is regarding individual games is they all get their own pages. Super Mario Bros. 3 (game watch) has good information and shows an article can stand on its own, but I don't know if this can apply for the rest. I think a Game Watch article can be made, but going over the Game Watches generally with a list of them, not a collection of information on the games.
 * This can probably be discussed at a later time, though, once a more solid idea is in place. 13:12, May 28, 2019 (EDT)

Please stop making several needless consecutive edits in a short timespan. Rather than saving these individually, these can be done in one edit. 21:10, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

Well, I finished correcting the inaccurate release dates and adding all the available ones that originally weren't on the list of games organized by system. And they weren't needless. I could've wrote them all down in a memo pad and edited lots down on the list altogether, but that would've taken a long time and I wanted to get the work done quickly. As long as we keep this list neatly organized with no inaccurate, missing or jumbled release dates, we won't have to worry about any future minor edits being made. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:20, June 22, 2019 (EDT)


 * "Edited lots down on the list altogether": That's exactly what I'm suggesting you should do instead. Yes they are unnecessary, because you could have done all of that in one go. It might take longer for you (tbh having the list somewhere and changing them all at once would take approximately the same amount of time), but as I said before, there's no rush in getting these up. Publishing too many edits that could have been saved with one bulk just floods the article's history page as well as the recent changes (especially since mobile edits cannot be filtered out), making navigation through these pages more difficult than if there weren't any. If this keeps up, you could receive a warning. 21:42, June 22, 2019 (EDT)

But the reminder I got wasn't from an administrator. And the guy that sent it said it was a fake one. The next edits I make will be bigger. If there are more to edit. So, I have no reason to keep making these miniscule edits because I just finished. I apologize for causing so much trouble. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:04, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
 * "Reminder wasn't from an admin"
 * Any member can hand out a warning.
 * "the guy that sent it said it was a fake one"
 * Wait, what... ... ...Well, overturning that, I guess.
 * Still, making your edits on a Word document for example is a good idea for a large scale edits. Just copy the page coding, edit it, and then paste it all back in one large edit. Or just edit the whole page in one go, using multiple tabs and Show preview to get around if you need to. 00:49, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, that's a little difficult to do on a tablet. Lord Falafel (talk) 00:56, June 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * ...Right... 00:59, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

Then I guess I know nothing about technology. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:07, June 23, 2019 (EDT)


 * Your tablet have a notepad/notes app on it? You could copy post it into that if it is an option. Just a suggestion though. Trig - 10:16, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

RE:Adobe flash games
Thanks for notifying me about those games, but I have already documented them (Mario's Memory Madness, Wario's Whack Attack). 09:56, May 29, 2019 (EDT)

I added 2 more Adobe flash games. If you have any more, please add them to the list of games organized by system. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:34, May 29, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Missing console
Intriguing, but do you know of anything Mario-related that was planned for it? If not, maybe it can be a footnote in the Virtual Boy article. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:08, June 4, 2019 (EDT)

Sadly, I do not. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:14, June 4, 2019 (EDT)
 * Then it looks like there isn't much we can say about it, but I've added a quick bit about its cancelation in favor of Virtual Boy in the production section of the Virtual Boy article. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:12, June 4, 2019 (EDT)

That's all that matters. At least it's covered, now. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:28, June 4, 2019 (EDT)

RE:Browser or flash games
I will let you know, but so far I only know of the ones that were listed on Nintendo's site and those that show up in SKELUX's videos/database. And they are all already covered, sans a few that seem to have disappeared completely off the face of the Internet, leaving behind only their names (Wario: Master of Disguise Trivia, Yoshi's Egg Toss, Super Paper Mario Memory Match...) 17:39, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

Minor edits
If you're fixing a small mistake, typo etc. please be sure to mark the edit as "minor" by ticking the "This is a minor edit" checkbox. Editing the whole page at once (clicking the "edit" tab at the top of the page) and looking out for fixes there (as opposed to finding more after already making an edit) also saves on dispersed individual edits like these. 02:27, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Ok. Did you see what link did? Unbelievable. I worked so hard trying to perfect this page and what does he do? He reverts many of our edits like they're mistakes. This is coming from the same guy who I told about the Nintendo super visor. And he added that to the wiki. He did me a favor. If anyone on this wiki is in favor of his banning, say I. Lord Falafel (talk) 09:57, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * He doesn't get a ban for that. Anyone can change information on the wiki, though I agree it should've been discussed with you first. I also agree with him, though; games that weren't meant to have a full release shouldn't be on the list, better left to tech demos or List of unreleased media. And shampoo bottles? Those are even video games. 11:02, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Are they anywhere else on the wiki? Lord Falafel (talk) 11:10, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * Er, he has access to as many pages as you do. 11:12, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * I misunderstood your question. No, I do not believe the shampoo bottles are on the wiki, but they will probably fit here if anywhere. 12:17, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

If this happens again, I will be forced to take extreme measures. These are my edits and no one touches them. Lord Falafel (talk) 11:15, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * That's not how this works. There are no "measures" you can take for this. Anyone can make changes to your edits at any time. His removal was not done as an action against you, he's trying to clarify what it means for games to be on the list. 11:17, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * Click on this picture for a help. -- 11:39, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * There's no minor edit box on mobile. 11:40, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * Second hint, if you're having trouble with doing it, scroll down the the bottom of the page, and click on "Desktop view" to be able to do so. -- 11:41, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Too far
Ideas don't really belong on the list of games since they never officially entered a phase of production where they can actually be considered canceled. If we document every time a concept entered the head of a Nintendo employee or potential licensee (which would be fruitless), that would heavily bloat the existing list, and we already have a section on the list of unreleased media where known pitches neatly fit. Same goes for the tech demos - they aren't designed for the public and already have their own article. Your contributions are appreciated, but this basically goes with the rule of once and only once. I am curious what you meant by "Shampoo Bottle" however (note that the "list of games" is meant for video games). LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:25, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Look up sonic shampoo games on Google images and browse the gallery and select some images and click related images and maybe you'll find all 4 of those Mario and donkey kong shampoo bottle games Lord Falafel (talk) 14:51, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Citation
Can you be more specific? LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:15, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

It's a Wikipedia page you can find if you use the Google search engine. There are a few sections in the page. One of them is called unreleased games. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:18, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * We don't rely on wikis as a source on its own, and looking it up, it's an unofficial homebrew, not an actual commissioned project. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:25, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Another page
You should ask an admin about that, but I'm pretty sure information about unofficial media can almost be an entirely different wiki itself. The closest is the list of Mario knockoffs acknowledged by Nintendo. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:36, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * You're not the first user to ask this question, and likely won't be the last. We aren't covering any unofficial material that isn't acknowledged by Nintendo, which includes bootlegs and second-hand products. 16:01, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Shampoo bottle
I looked these shampoo bottles up; they look more like toys than actual games to me, as far as the little "game" you play in the small screen on the bottle goes. If you find images and sources to prove their authenticity, then you may add them somewhere in the Toys or Miscellaneous merchandise gallery. Otherwise, I don't think they belong in the list of games or deserve to have their own articles, especially since they all work exactly the same... 17:02, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Tips
I see you're very enthusiastic about adding cancelled and obscure content on pages. That's all very nice but I gotta give you some pointers, because you need them.


 * Make sure the content you add fits: LinkTheLefty's decision to revert your edit on the List of games was entirely justified: it's a list of video games, it's in the name. Adding ideas that were floating around the office without going any legitimate steps of production, tech demos and soap bar things with water games is outside the scope of the page. There's also multiple instances of you adding homebrew creations that had no involvement from Nintendo or its licensees, which is explicitely outside the wiki's coverage. Before adding content, make sure to properly determine it makes sense for it to be there on the page and the level of information that is appropriate for the page you're adding it to. A page like Mario (franchise) shouldn't have complete plot summaries and list of everythings in games for example, just concicse summaries of what's notable about it.
 * Familiarize yourself with wiki markup: From your fumbling on the List of unreleased media, it's rather obvious you don't quite understand how to input wiki templates and how they're used. Everything in Category:MarioWiki policies and Help:Contents will help you get up to speed.
 * Make use of proper sourcing: When adding content, make sure hard details are sourced, and please use credible ones: justifying an edit with "This is what the Wikipedia page on X says" as you've done on many page is unacceptable. Citations explains our policy, but really, I'd recommend looking at the infinity of online ressources regarding properly journalistic sourcing etiquette and what consitutes a good source. Trust me, it'll help.
 * Fix your attitude: I get being upset when your edits are reverted or when there's a policy you disagree with. We've all been there. But flipping out and calling to ban another user for reverting one of your edit (as you did above) or making threats is not going to work, and you're not going to last long if you can't show a willingness to deal with others in good faith. Bragging statements like "[...] I've been very helpful in adding missing content. I hope you're all grateful for that. I don't need any notices, warnings or bans. Without me, you guys wouldn't have this stuff covered. aren't going to endear you to other editors either. Being protective of your additions is especially silly, because, well, nothing you do here belongs to you (and if you don't know why I'm saying that, I recommend looking at the helpful link at the bottom of every page).

Really, you shouldn't make it your mission to "popularize" stuff: adding legit stuff that's not yet on the wiki and putting it everywhere applicable is dandy, but generally, making sure your additions are of a high level quality and actually make sense to be where you put them should be priortized over being The First to add something to the internet. With all that said, happy editing. --Glowsquid (talk) 22:20, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

About the Mario ice capades summary, all I wanted to do was make sure I didn't write 2 or 3 lines. It's because I'm autistic that all of this is happening. I have hormonal and mental imbalances. I apologize for my strange behavior, but I don't wanna let every Mario fan down. If I had a computer, it'd be easier to credit my sources, but I'll try to improve. Lord Falafel (talk) 23:14, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Another list
We already have Category:Games for that.

Re. your post on citations on Glowsquid's talk: What do you mean by "can't"? 01:50, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


 * It's pretty much impossible to cite my sources on a mobile device Lord Falafel (talk) 01:56, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


 * It's not impossible at all, it just takes a little longer. That's how editing is for everyone sometimes, it's tedious work. If you're able to do all those edits, you're able to add a reference. 02:25, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


 * I need help from people to cite my references. I have to go to bed. Lord Falafel (talk) 02:30, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


 * Again, you're capable and responsible for citing it yourself; you can't have other editors obligated to do it for you out of unwillingness to do so on your own. Simply follow this format (if there's no author or date, you can remove those) as outlined on Citations, and if there's anything tripping you up, you can ask. 03:08, June 16, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Something urgent
(Putting this on your page as well)

He said he made the threads so others could help with the article creation, since he's not involved in editing anymore.
 * - Super Mario World (arcade)
 * - Swanky no Bonus Slot
 * - Mario Roulette
 * - Piccadilly Circus: Super Mario Bros. 3
 * - Super Mario Bros. 3 (Mini Piccadilly)
 * - Super Mario World (Mini Piccadilly)
 * - Mario World (arcade)
 * - Televidenwa: Super Mario World
 * - Būbū Mario
 * - Mario Undoukai
 * - Koopa Taiji
 * - Super Mario Attack
 * - Dokidoki Mario Chance!
 * - Super Mario Kart Dokidoki Race
 * - Super Mario World no Popcorn Hanbaiki

He's compiled all available information into these posts. Most has been lost to time, but it's possible more information can be found today. If you want to make the pages that aren't already there, you can; all the available information is there. 18:32, June 17, 2019 (EDT)

I clicked one of the red links and read all the tips I need to follow to make a page. I can't do it. I'm sorry, but it's too hard for me. You're going to have to find someone else to make pages for all the games I added to the list of games organized by system that have red links. They can find the pictures and sources and information if they read my "missing games" discussion I created for the discussion board for the list of games organized by system from me to you. I have failed porplemontage, I have failed linkthelefty, I have failed Mario jc, I have failed you and I have failed the entire Mario fan base. I feel so stupid. Lord Falafel (talk) 19:24, June 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * Whoa whoa, you haven't failed anything! Or anyone. Were you trying to please someone?
 * It's a little daunting at first, definitely. This was my first page creation, lot of mistakes here. You can work on as much as you can, maybe even in a personal sandbox.
 * But if you don't feel like you're up to it, that's perfectly fine! Can always try again later. 20:05, June 17, 2019 (EDT)

I wasn't trying to please anyone. I was trying to educate the Mario community. Lord Falafel (talk) 20:08, June 17, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Alphabetical error
Okay, but why are you telling me this? 01:37, June 18, 2019 (EDT)

Because you've been on this wiki longer than I have. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:38, June 18, 2019 (EDT)


 * I don't see how that's relevant. You can correct that error yourself. 01:45, June 18, 2019 (EDT)

Oh, you were referring to my edit on List of unreleased media, sorry. But that's part of wiki editing, fixing any errors you might spot, so thanks. 07:21, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Face Raiders
Because there is nothing Mario-related in it, unlike AR Games and StreetPass Mii Plaza. 22:49, June 18, 2019 (EDT)

Based on the pictures in the 3DS page on the game, I thought there was Mario related stuff. But ok. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:52, June 18, 2019 (EDT)

Reminder
You're still not sourcing your info on obscure material, not even mentioning anything in the summary. You might know about it, but many readers won't - that's why it's important to have a source to let them know it's legitimate. There's no rush at all getting the info up so please start citing references for your edits (saying where you got it from in the summary alone is not enough). Any that isn't will be removed. 00:41, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Please tell me which pages you're specifically talking about and I will do my best to cite my sources. Lord Falafel (talk) 00:54, June 19, 2019 (EDT)


 * The lesser-known games you added to List of games (i.e. the red-linked ones besides the Play Nintendo ones) would be a good start. 07:25, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

I can't directly give them all to you. My linking skills are in their infancy. But on my talk page, there's a box called RE: something urgent. Open it and you'll find links to all the games borp archived on arcade coverage on the Mario boards. There will be lots of information for you there regarding those games. Lord Falafel (talk) 09:46, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

I did source many games on the discussion board for the list of games organized by system and the discussion those games and sources are in is called missing games. Lord Falafel (talk) 10:14, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Alex95 is going to look at those electronic pinball games and electronic water games when he can, so please don't delete anything. Not even the arcade games. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:25, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

RE: About to quit
I... honestly don't see how this is stressful at all. All you need to do is put a link to where you found the information between tags. While they are more suited to the game's pages themselves, they will work on the List of games page.

I'm out of time to talk, I have to get to a dentist appointment. I'll say more when I return. 11:41, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Okay, back. The thing about your posts on Talk:List of games is that it's incredibly lengthy and already covers some information that we have. If you want to add a list of sites you found the information on, as in actual links (aside from the forum posts I linked to above), I will look through them and help place them where needed. 14:07, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

I cannot send you links unless I'm looking at them. I tried and I cannot do it on my Android. I'm not able to save the links, either because I don't have a preloaded clipboard. Thanks, Samsung. Thanks for that. So, I can't do anything about that. I'm sick of this link crap. It's gotta stop. It's getting us nowhere and the only way I know how to send you all those games is by giving you the specifics and then you have to do a Google search. I'll tell you what to search. Deal? Lord Falafel (talk) 14:52, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
 * We only require them because this is very obscure information and we need to see some validity. Saying where to go will work, and I'll see what I can find. 14:55, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

The super Mario bros electronic water game and the donkey kong electronic water game will show up on an Amazon page if you look up the company that made them: play2O. You can find super Mario bros electronic pinball on eBay if you look up super Mario bros electronic pinball. Same goes for if you search super Mario 64 electronic pinball. It will also be on eBay. Same goes for the electronic pinball machine called donkey kong country. It will also be on eBay. And dkvine.tumblr.com. However, donkey kong electronic pinball (without the country) will be on Flickr.com and you can find both donkey kong pinball machines on Google images. But the super Mario world electronic pinball machine will show up if you search super Mario world pinball playtime worthpoint. You will then be shown a result that has the super Mario world electronic pinball machine on a website called worthpoint and it will incorrectly label the release date as 1988. Click that link and once you are in that website and looking at that machine, scroll down the page to find a related page in the website that has another picture and article on super Mario world electronic pinball while you are still in the worthpoint website and click on it and it will show you the correct release date: 1992. I'll give you the arcade game information on the games borp was ignorant of in a separate message. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:13, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
 * Okay, that sounds good. I'll look around for the information when I can :) 15:20, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
 * Okay, I found most of the ones you mentioned, I put links to all of them at the top of my sandbox. Only one I couldn't find was the Super Mario 64 pinball.
 * However, these all seem like toys rather than actual arcade titles. The pinball machines, maybe, but not the Dynatech Play20 things. I can't even tell if those are official or not.
 * But these things do exist, that's for sure. I'll see what kind of references I can add. 17:19, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Keep looking for the super Mario 64 electronic pinball machine. It's there. And we have a picture of it on the toys gallery as well as a picture of the super Mario bros electronic pinball machine. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:35, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

I found one on Amazon. Check it out. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:38, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

re:Question
I don't want to be rude but that's a rather odd question to ask. That user hasn't edited since June 7 and none of his recent edits seem to be deal with any Mario medal game so it's difficult for me to figure out what you're talking about exactly, or why you're asking me the question instead of perusing the thread you were already linked to yourself. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:13, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

The video was deleted. Do you remember what the machine looked like? Lord Falafel (talk) 21:27, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * No. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:43, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

And it was a talk page on the list of games organized by system. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:27, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Try contacting doc von schmeltwick. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:45, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Assistance
How can i help you? -- 00:48, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

First, can you look up @yamapen3 Mario on Google images and see if you can find an image of a Mario kiddie ride that's cape Mario and send it to me, please? Lord Falafel (talk) 00:53, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * This? -- 00:57, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Yes. Now I need you to select that image again, scroll down and click the blue wording that says related images. There might be a close up image of the front of that same ride in the related images. I say might be because sometimes it's not there and hard to find. But if you're lucky enough, you'll find it. It's on Yahoo Japan and the title of the image will partially be in Japanese. The part that's not in Japanese will say cocolulujp2000. If you find that image, please send it to me and I'll see if it's the right one. If you don't find it, look for it again the next day. If you still can't find it, keep searching daily. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:04, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * This? It's not in Yahoo Japan, and i think it's what you asked me for. -- 01:09, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Wrong image. It's a more close up image and it has no anime girls on it. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:10, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * Then how about you just look for it yourself? Don't beg everyone to do it. -- 01:21, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Because I don't have a computer. I can't copy links unless I'm looking at them. Please. I am asking you generously to do this. Please help me. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:23, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * How about just giving up? -- 01:29, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Never give up, never surrender. Always keep trying. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:31, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * How about this: You look at the link, you write it on a paper, and then you're done. -- 01:32, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

I can't look at links on the pages themselves on Android. Please help me with this. I can think of no one else to look to. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:36, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * Can we stop this conversation? I will find it for you. -- 01:42, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * I give you 2 options:

Which one you want? -- 01:50, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * 1: I give you this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QqTI-0muZVc/hqdefault.jpg
 * 2: I make a screenshot of this YouTube video, and crop Mario from the screenshot.

Explain number 2 a little bit more, please. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:53, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * I said that i'll make a screenshot of the video, and crop out Mario from the screenshot (with the background he is in). Okay? -- 01:58, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Yes. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:59, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * At which moment specifically you want the video be screencapped? I want to screencap it at 0:23 (seconds of the video), but i'm not sure which moment of the video to do it. -- 02:02, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

0:58. Lord Falafel (talk) 02:07, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * There you go. -- 02:18, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Thank you very much. On the discussion on Alex95's talk page called sources, he sent me the link to another Mario kiddie ride I found. It's called super Mario seesaw takeover and like tobebe Mario, it was released exclusively in Japan by Banpresto. Because he showed me the url to the page of the site that has it, I think the link I'm gonna send to you won't be broken. Please cover this image as well. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q165133918 Lord Falafel (talk) 02:25, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * I've got some things to do. I'll do it ASAP. -- 02:28, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * So tell me how you were able to post that link there. 10:06, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Because you showed me the url. I read what you sent me and copied it. Lord Falafel (talk) 10:10, June 26, 2019 (EDT) Where did you find that picture?

Google images. Please screencap it. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:02, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Bad username? What do you mean? I'm the first user to find this machine. Please help me. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:42, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

I never said my friend sent me anything. What friends? I don't have any internet friends. I found all this by myself. @yamapen3 is just a Twitter account that I found by chance while looking up Japanese Mario arcade games. They're not my friends. They probably don't even know me. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:48, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Please reply to me. If I did something wrong, let me know. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:49, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * In response to your message on my page, you are and you aren't doing anything wrong. It's great that you found obscure information and are wanting to help document it, but it's taking up a lot of time for others to find and people have other things to do. The fact that you don't have a way to copy links yourself and are continuously making reference mistakes are causing the motivation of others to find these things to drop.
 * Again, since you know where to look, you can wait until you have access to a proper device that can copy urls and edit easier. The information you found will still be there most likely. It's not that we don't want to help, it's the constant "Keep looking"s, "Just do this for me"s, and overall vagueness.
 * I'm sorry. I know at this point, you can't do this alone. But it's also difficult for others to work with vague instructions. Try to record where you found them on paper or computer document, and come back to them once you have a proper device. A lot was done already, but it's been difficult to keep it up. 18:13, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Well, some of the work has been done. FanOfYoshi created an image file for me for tobetobe Mario and trig jegman did the same with that Mario and yoshi seesaw. I think I'm gonna put them in list of merchandise. I can't think of any other place to put them and they don't count as games, so they'll go with the merch. One of the references will be broken. That will be the reference for tobetobe Mario and the reference will be that video by digitalcaster. Someone will need to fix it. I'm sorry for asking all of you to help me, but I need to get this stuff off the ground ASAP. And I'm not gonna wait until I own a computer. That will take too long. This stuff has been obscure long enough. I have the png and the jpg. And I mean no disrespect to glowsquid, but he's wrong. I should make it my mission to popularize obscure stuff. I've been dreaming about this since 2015. And I'm not gonna stop until nothing can become obscure anymore. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:25, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * It's a worthy goal, just try not to overwork people too much. 18:27, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

I'm sorry if i'm making late response's. Sometimes real life get's in the way. P.S That picture of Mario is very amuseing LOL=).

Yes, it is. Lord Falafel (talk) 08:50, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

File created
File can be found at File:Super Mario Yoshi Ride.jpg (and if you move it, let me know to fix my page here). If it weren't for the fact that I've seen you flinging yourself everywhere to get this stuff, I'd have thought this was some form of malicious intent because this computer bombed hard trying to get to the page. No idea how to categorize or copyright it though, so please do that as soon as you can (use to do so) Trig - 17:59, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Thank you very much. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:02, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Alex95 mentioned that I've been pushing people to do difficult tasks concerning finding obscure Mario stuff without being specific of where I got my sources or where to get that stuff. Well, I thought about telling them more specific details. I need you to please help me with 2 more non games and then 3 games that are on the list of games organized by system and have broken references. The non games first. They are the Mario and yoshi versions of super Mario ride, which are officially licensed battery cars with steering wheels and no roofs. They were made by Banpresto and they are kinda small, so they can hold kids. There are seats in these battery cars. These can be found on Google images. The Mario version is a kind of square looking battery car. It's yellow and it has a small Mario figure on the top and pointing. On the front are a white circle and a red M in the middle. The yoshi version is green because it's yoshi's body. On the machine's left side are a galoomba, a toad head with a candy cane-like patterned mushroom as the top part of the toad's head and growing out of that top is a white mushroom with red speckles. The way I figured out to make it easy for people to find? These battery cars will be on Google images. If you have the color setting to choose which color images you want to see, click red for the Mario one and green for the yoshi one. Try to get images of those battery cars with no anime girls on them. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:42, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

@yamapen3 Mario. Look that up on Google images. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:42, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

@yamapen3 Mario will have those 2 battery cars. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:43, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

This thread is so wii can chat.
Hi Lorl Falafel. Are you excited for Super Mario Maker 2. It's coming out tommorow. Woo-Hoo!

I'm only interested in the main series titles. Can you help me? There's an easy way to find those battery cars. Just use the color option to look at certain images depending on their color. You need to use the Google search engine and type in @yamapen3. Next, go to images and look for 2 battery cars. Red for the Mario battery car and green for the yoshi battery car. If you see a yellow car with a tiny Mario figure on top, that's the Mario one. The green one is shaped like yoshi. Please help me with this. Lord Falafel (talk) 08:50, June 27, 2019 (EDT) I'm so sorry but i can't help you because Google is disabled on my computer.

Ok. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:12, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

So... What's your favorite main Super Mario game. I think my is Super Mario 3D World.

Super Mario galaxy 2. I only like the main series titles. Lord Falafel (talk) 11:55, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

Ok, I also like super paper Mario. Why'd you delete the hot wheels cars? Lord Falafel (talk) 18:35, June 28, 2019 (EDT) I'll add them back. Here's a link.P.S Go to the end of his talk page.

That link is only in words. Not a url. Lord Falafel (talk) 11:08, June 29, 2019 (EDT)

Ok. 10:05, July 2, 2019 (EDT)

I know the wiki isn't connected to Google, but how are you accessing the wiki if Google is disabled on your computer? Are you using a mobile device? Is the wiki on your desktop and you can just access it like that? Lord Falafel (talk) 10:10, July 2, 2019 (EDT)

The thing is i do not have permission to Google on my computer. P.S Happy 4th of July. 7:03, July 4, 2019

You too. Lord Falafel (talk) 08:46, July 4, 2019 (EDT)

RE:Help
What do you have in mind, specifically? 13:22, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

Banpresto was a company that had a strong relationship with Nintendo and under their license, made many toys, games and amusement vehicles. 2 of those vehicles are called battery cars and they came out in 1993 exclusively in Japan. They are both called super Mario ride and there are 2 versions: a Mario version and a yoshi version. There is a Twitter account called @yamapen3 and they have posted many obscure arcade games and other stuff. Their posts can be found on Twitter and Google images. They also have a YouTube channel that I can't read. What I need you to do first is use the Google search engine to look up @yamapen3, go to images, click the color option for red and look for a yellow square shaped car with a small Mario figure built on the top and pointing up. The car will also have a white circle in the front and in that white circle will be a red capital M. But beware. Many times @yamapen3 will post their anime girl profile pictures on their finds, which makes it hard to see the full machine of whatever they paste those characters over. If an image of the battery car I described to you shows up with those characters pasted on it, go past that picture, scroll down and you will find that same car with no pasted characters on it. Show it to me on this talk page and I'll let you know if it's the right picture. Lord Falafel (talk) 13:52, June 27, 2019 (EDT)
 * Sounds straightforward enough. I'll do it at my earliest convenience. 13:58, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

In case something happens, I want to get the yoshi battery car out to you as fast as possible. It can be found on Google images if you once again search for @yamapen3 on Google images, but this time click the color option for green and look for a kind of round car that's yoshi's body and on the car's left are a galoomba, a toad head with a candy cane-like patterned top and a white mushroom with red speckles growing out of that top. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:06, June 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * Hi. Sorry I'm late about this, but is this what you're looking for? The description you gave me doesn't quite match up, but it has Mario regardless, so I don't know...
 * P.S.: The anime girl images are clearly Katie Forester (the one with the ponytail) and Lily Adams (the one with the glasses), both from the Yo-kai Watch franchise.
 * 01:12, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

No, it's not the one. I am aware however, who the anime girls are. Keep searching. It's shaped like a square and it's yellow in color. It has a white circle and a red M in the middle. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:23, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Hi.
I wouldn't mind helping you out there. 15:25, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

Ok. I'm busy with another person who's gonna find me 2 pictures, but I'll get back to you. I have something planned for you. If that person doesn't get back to me, you can have their job and you'll have 2 jobs. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:28, June 27, 2019 (EDT)

I have a question for you. Do you have the color setting option on Google images? Just wondering. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:28, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Arcade games, and "temporary ban"
First of all, you don't make the rules here. Even if this was meant to be a joke, it's off-putting for other editors that see the summary and make legitimate edits. If you were being serious, that should be ran through a proposal first, not something you suddenly decide to enforce. I don't know why you decided to remove information without talking to anyone about it and then claim that anyone adding it back should be blocked, but you don't even have the power to place a block on anyone.

Second of all, in regards to the removed information, it stays. It is placed on the List of games alongside the List of unreleased media because we have enough information on the game that was actually meant to be released. There's no problem with showing those games there, as they are different from tech demos and pitches, which would otherwise fit on the List of unreleased media or Tech Demo pages. You do not remove that much content without discussing it with the community first.

Third... Fine, I'll give searching another go, but not today or this weekend. Maybe on Monday. 20:46, July 4, 2019 (EDT)

Porplemontage told me unreleased games should not be on the list of games. I was following his orders. I'm ok with Monday. Lord Falafel (talk) 20:51, July 4, 2019 (EDT)
 * ...I completely forgot about that discussion, I apologize. Still, that really should be a community discussion. They can fit - or are already - on the List of unreleased media, but it's... actually not very apparent that list exists on the List of games page. If you think something needs fixing here, making a proposal is the way to go, but I don't think canceled content should be outright removed from that page. 20:59, July 4, 2019 (EDT)

Well, porplemontage removed it all. If you have time to look at those arcade games, I'll give you some details of what they look like. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:04, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Super mario-kun
Even so, it's still an official name. The article is currently considered to be another language, so renaming it'd seem plausible. -- 11:28, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Mario shampoo by Revlon
You can on mobile, just search or go to Special:Upload. 08:05, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

I can't do it. Someone needs to help me. Lord Falafel (talk) 20:20, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

If it's a matter of getting there, try this link instead. I know it's possible to upload on mobile devices because I have done it before. Trig - 20:29, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Re: Help
Sure, I can help a little bit. Is this the shampoo image you're looking for? I'll try to look for the other ones tomorrow if I have time. -- 21:35, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Yes, it is the shampoo I'm looking for. Thank you. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:39, July 7, 2019 (EDT)


 * I have added it to Gallery:Miscellaneous merchandise. -- 21:47, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Well done. Another piece of merchandise out of the way. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:10, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Here's what I found. Please tell me if all of these are the correct images, and I'll upload them.
 * A super Mario charapaki chocolate bar by Bandai
 * Chocolate coins based on New Super Mario Bros. U and made by Furuta
 * Mario themed chocolate made by Milka another img
 * Promotional Donkey Kong Dr. Pepper and diet Dr. Pepper
 * Super Mario cola
 * Super Mario Coca-Cola
 * A similar ice cream bar with a red bubble gum nose
 * Lunchables Pizza
 * Mario themed multivitamins
 * Super Mario fruit snacks released in 1997 by Zaini
 * Mario themed Doritos
 * Mario themed Pringles: Can't find this one
 * Mario Go-Gurt Another img
 * Mario Frubes by Yoplait
 * Super Mario yogurt by Danone
 * Super Mario Bros. 3 assorted real fruit snacks
 * Super Mario Bros. honey cookies made in 1992 by Sunshine

-- 16:59, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Well, we don't have to worry about the Bandai chocolate because Mario jc readded it. Almost everything you sent me is exactly the one. I can't find some on Google images. The Mario Doritos you sent me aren't the correct ones. Here's all the food on this talk page you should add: both of the milka pictures, the donkey kong Dr and diet Dr pepper, both Mario colas, the red nosed ice cream, the Lunchables pizza, the multivitamins, the Zaini fruit snacks, the Frubes, the Danone yogurt, the super Mario bros 3 fruit snacks and the honey cookies. I'll look for more Mario food, Mario toys, clothes, sheet music and more. As for the futura eggs, just put the figures in gallery: figurines. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:23, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Are these the right Doritoes? -- 17:25, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Yes. Please add those, too. Lord Falafel (talk) 17:31, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ok. I added everything to the gallery. -- 18:37, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Thank you very much. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:57, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

I've got more food items! I'm finding boatloads of these. Kellogg's Mario kart gummies. Super Mario ramune & cola gummy candy by NOBEL. Super Mario wonder ball by Frankford. Super Mario light up candy fan. Super Mario maker gummies by Bandai. New super Mario bros Wii chewing gum. Mario Lunchables. Donkey kong ice cream bar by PAULS. Super Mario ice lolly by Wall's, released in 1993. Super Mario ice cream bar by Pop sicle. Nintendo ice cream sandwiches based on super Mario bros 2. Super Mario chocolate lollipop. Super Mario bros Kinder surprise eggs. Honey bunches of oats made to promote super Mario Odyssey. Super Mario bros chocolate n' crisp chocolate bar. Super Mario bros 3 chocolate chip swirl cookies by Salerno. That same company made a maze on paper and based it around super Mario bros 3. I'll put that maze in the list of publications. Also, I looked up super Mario Coca-Cola on Google images and found the super Mario cola without the coca alongside other Mario sodas. So, there are about 3 of those sodas in 1 series. I also found a game boy advance gummy candy container. Lord Falafel (talk) 23:07, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Mario jc said the maze can be added to a gallery. I'm not sure which one, though. When you get done with all those food products I sent you, we can decide where the super Mario bros 3 maze by Salerno should go. Here's the link. P.S. I was only able to know this url because Mario jc sent it to me. I can't see them on their own websites. https://twitter.com/VGArtAndTidbits/status/933308447600398337 Lord Falafel (talk) 09:52, July 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ok. I'll try to get around to it in the next few days. -- 16:16, July 9, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Question
I don't understand. What is there that wouldn't already fit in any of these? 05:40, July 10, 2019 (EDT)

A lot. I'm not sure if Toadette the archiver is still helping me trying to find those battery cars. And of course there's way too much merchandise to count, but super Mario fan 67 is helping me with that part. Alex95 might be helping me with those 3 remaining arcade games on the list of games organized by system. But if something goes wrong, we need a place to house that information. A list. What should we call it? Lord Falafel (talk) 10:03, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * What you could do is create a sandbox page at User talk:Lord Falafel/sandbox and put your list there so you can organize everything, then as we find images for stuff on there and when it’s ready, we transfer it over to the gallery. I think that would’ve a good idea as it would allow us to easily see what all we are missing and what we need images for without interfering with mainspace pages. -- 10:44, July 10, 2019 (EDT)