User talk:Owencrazyboy9

Welcome to my talk page. If you want to chat here, feel free to do so. However, there are a few rules to keep in mind:
 * 1) Don't type curse words on this page. I'm VERY sensitive when it comes to that. If that does happen, though, I'll just censor it to protect the innocence of children everywhere.
 * 2) Don't insert spam over and over again, flame someone or insult me or any of the other users. If that happens, the comments shown will get removed or altered, no questions asked! You have been warned!
 * 3) If an archived page is unprotected, don't edit it. If that happens, the edits will get undone and I'll give the offender a warning.
 * 4) If you issue me a false warning or reminder for a completely ridiculous subject, it will be appealed and hopefully overturned.
 * 5) Make sure the talk that happens here relates to video games or the wiki in general. Other Nintendo-based wikis are fine to chat here, too. Any unrelated talk gets removed.
 * 6) No friend requests. Not to mention, I WILL NOT respond to friend requests. There is already one here, sure, but no more after that.
 * 7) No instances of chat that feel like they belong to the forums. They will be removed if any forum chat comments are seen.
 * 8) Removing or modifying warnings or comments are completely unacceptable! If that happens, they will be brought back (if they were deleted) or restored to its original brilliance (if they were changed) and you will be punished for it...maybe.
 * 9) To add a new header, just hit the "+" button next to the edit button. This will bring the next talk discussion, which will go on the bottom.
 * 10) DO NOT move talk discussions from a place to a random spot, because the edit will get undone and you'll be reminded about it.
 * 11) If you forgot to sign your comment, don't bother making another edit to switch it. I can look in the history to see who posted the comment without me having to put the unsigned template.
 * 12) Don't impersonate any of the users on the wiki. You could get in big trouble for doing so; that's BIG with a capital B. If you want to see a good example of impersonation, look here.
 * 13) This doesn't happen often, but if I changed or reverted one of your edits on this wiki, please don't bother asking why I did it. Usually I have a good reason for doing so in the edit summary and can provide videographic or photographic evidence, if necessary. Sometimes, though, if you do ask, I'll just answer on the talk page, if possible. Sure, a lengthy conversation might ensue, but we can hopefully smooth out the rough edges and come to an agreement, like in section 56 for example.
 * 14) Lastly, just have fun! As long as you follow these rules, this chat page will be a good spot to hang out.

All right! You can now begin chatting! BTW, ignore sections 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 25, 39 and 46 on this page (shown in detail in the Table of Contents). In my opinion, they're not worth your time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 17:04, 2 January 2017 (EST)

Advice
Just a piece of advice; I suggest you read through the MarioWiki Policy and the Manual of Style; reason being is that you're not supposed to use the word "you" when editing main articles themselves. All right; take care. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 22:51, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Reminder (Unnecessary Edits/Using "You" In Articles)
Please read this notice as well as the one above. I suggest that you read the Mario Wiki Manual of Style immediately before editing any main articles again. Thanks in advance for your cooperation with this. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 13:10, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

A Reminder About Stub Articles
Hi, next time you create an article make sure it has a reasonable amount of information. I had to delete the last article you made because it was too short. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing :)

Warning

 * Anything not actually made by Nintendo (all fangames, fanfics, fanart, etc.) is not covered by our coverage policy and should not be added. If we tried to add all the fan content on the internet, we would have articles about the most ridiculous things and we could no longer call ourselves an encyclopedia.

Final warning for vandalism
-- 21:19, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

Final warning for disruptive editing altogether, including massive Manual of Style violations
-- 21:56, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

Friend Request
Hi, I want to be friends, as the title implies. Also, could you create a user box and chose a picture for me to use in the friend list?

Paper Smb1 18:48, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Dead-End Space
Hey, nice work on getting that image!

03:12, 14 November 2016 (EST)


 * Thanks! All I did was take a screenshot from a YouTube video and cropped the unnecessary parts before uploading. It was also my very first time uploading an image. I hope I did a good job! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:18, 14 November 2016 (EST)

Bowser
Considering this was three years ago, I don't particularly remember. I guess at the time I didn't think it was really necessary to list in extensive detail every single method to defeat him and what every possible move can do when fighting him.

-Toa 95 (talk)


 * Thanks for the clarification. Maybe a source should be added for that information, stating that it came from the Prima guide and the page it was on. For future reference, if you're going to undo someone's edit, make sure you state why in the edit summary. It's very easy to screw that up sometimes. But I'm sure you knew that already! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2016 (EST)

Anonymous Reminder
As per this page, Anonymous users just get messages and no warnings. 22:59, 22 November 2016 (EST)
 * Sorry about that. I'll keep that in mind next time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2016 (EST)

Welcoming users
Hey, I know you're just being friendly, but you should welcome users after they have made at least one constructive edit. Otherwise, you'd be creating a talk page for what could be an inactive user. 16:28, 2 December 2016 (EST)
 * Thanks for clarifying! I'll now know to wait until they made one edit before welcoming them! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2016 (EST)

Trivia of Shy Guy Falls
Mate, they actually do say "Heihō" but as: "Hei-hō" Partial vandalism? --95.144.142.93 15:02, 19 December 2016 (EST)
 * I didn't vandalize the page, but I just think it doesn't really count as good trivia. Trivia is for bits of information that can't be placed in a really good spot in the article. If you think it's good, then re-add it, but in a good spot in the article. I recommend reading this article for more information on what works and doesn't work as trivia. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:26, 19 December 2016 (EST)

I'm glad I was able to solve the problem between you and the anonymous user, but are either of you going to actually include the information or should I? 19:39, 20 December 2016 (EST)
 * I'm not sure. Maybe I can add it in. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2016 (EST)

Edit Summaries
Could you please refrain from adding sly comments to your edit summaries? Here's what I'm talking about:
 * "Fixing incorrect link issue for featuring the page...which will likely never happen, given the state of the article."
 * The first part is informative, but the second half, while true, doesn't need to be said. You fixed a link, that's all.
 * "OK, since when was Paper Mario: Color Splash recent? The game came out in October, now it's January."
 * I think it's fairly obvious that those templates for recent games can be overlooked when its not so recent anymore. People don't realize they are still up, it was never intentionally left there.
 * "User is now blocked. Play the games or watch YouTube videos of the games first before making assumptions."
 * There could've been another way to say this without belittling the anon.
 * "Mega Mole doesn't appear in Super Mario Maker. Nice try, user who added that in!"
 * There's no sense to being so smug here! This one and the one above are the sort of messages designed to anger people.
 * "Bonus Stars appear in Star Rush. Why is that information NOT on this page? Adding expand template until information is added."
 * Same with the recent games template, it can be overlooked.
 * "These are the actual names of the games. Nice try, though."
 * Here you're just being a complete jerk. The person you're referring to in this edit states that they didn't know the actual names, yet when you provided the correct names, you accused them of intentionally giving false information.
 * "Re-created the quotes page for Paper Mario: Color Splash. I put a construction tag unlike the other user who tried to create the page professionally, but failed."
 * I don't actually know what the original page looked like, but this sort of comment was still rude and unnecessary. Possibly another example of being a jerk to someone.
 * This was all just from the last month, and I've been wanting to say something for awhile now. Please just be kind and courteous to others and keep your summaries to only helpful information or real questions, not sarcasm and the lot. Sorry, having trouble finding the right words.-- 02:41, 2 January 2017 (EST)
 * I had no idea that I should be careful on how I use edit summaries. I'll try to fix them up to be polite and nice in the nearby future. For the second to last quote, I was saying "Nice try," because he guessed the names. BTW, great work on those bestiary templates of the Mario RPG games! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:04, 2 January 2017 (EST)
 * (cough)(cough) Now I've made the sly comments. What have I become?-- 13:58, 8 March 2018 (EST)

RE:Edit summary.
You seemed to act all heroic about your edit, so I played the same game. In regard to the edits themselves, removing those notes was not necessary at all, and I justified this in one of my edit summaries here - stating that "K Rools Last Stand" has poor punctuation, but is taken from the game exactly as it is. The lack of a "sic" note next to that phrase implies the poor punctuation is the editor's fault and needs to be corrected. Perhaps by saying that the "sic" parts are not needed, you meant that whoever added them was way too specific, but how should I know that? --
 * I probably didn't even think to keep them. Sure, before I removed the "sic" parts, I watched videos of Donkey Kong Land 3, but didn't realize that K. Rools Last Stand didn't have an apostrophe in it. Sorry about what happened. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:21, 25 January 2017 (EST)
 * It's okay! Thanks for understanding! -- 14:35, 25 January 2017 (EST)

Shy Bandit Trivia
The reason I removed the trivia that stated that the Shy Bandit cannot appear whenever you have a card of him is because, in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=y0aUOmS-kHg&a=, it shows a Shy Bandit card being used on the Shy Bandit, showing he can attack while you have his card. -- 20:52, 28 January 2017 (EST)
 * Oh! Didn't see that coming. I thought that important trivia was removed, but turns out it was to fix a mistake. Sorry about that! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2017 (EST)

74.89.20.171
Rather than just explain what the user did wrong in the summaries, it'd be better to also leave an informal warning on their talk page. That way they will get the message more easily, and there are a lot of users who don't even look at the page histories or recent changes anyway. 02:29, 29 January 2017 (EST)
 * Oh, OK. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:38, 29 January 2017 (EST)

MKDD LAN image
Several things I have to say.


 * 1) The image you uploaded is not actually higher quality than the one I uploaded. You took that one from a video camera recording, the one I had is directly from a capture card. I'd rather we have a capture card screenshot in French than a video recording of poorer quality in English.
 * 2) To see changes when you upload a new revision, you need to clear your cache or refresh your page.

11:55, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * I found that on YouTube. And, I didn't know I had to clear cache to see differences in revisions. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:59, 6 February 2017 (EST)

Yo
"YOU BIG IDIOT!" That was uncalled for. Regardless of whether the anon was correct or not, there's no need for an outburst like that. Please refrain from direct comments like that in your summaries in the future, alright? 13:02, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * Well, I was irritated that the IP address kept changing quotes from the ones in the game to the ones not in the game. I don't have the game myself, so I look to YouTube videos for proof. Sorry if I offended anyone! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 14:34, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 * You haven't offended anyone (I think), but still, it's courtesy not to make comments like that. 18:55, 6 February 2017 (EST)

JonnyGamer02
Hi! This is JonnyGamer about editing the Super Mario Odyssey (I'm new here so I don't know how this whole thing works or if you will be able to read this) I tried to put back the reference to Candy Kong because if you pause the Super Mario Odyssey video right as it goes to New Donk City, you can see Candy Kong along with other DK characters. (Candy's Cafe, next to tiny's piroshki and banana bagels) Thanks


 * Oh, OK. If I watch the trailer again, I will keep a close eye on it. By the way, an appeal is basically a process to get a warning or reminder issued to you removed permanently. Type MarioWiki:Appeals and go to the page. Follow the instructions to get your appeal started. Once done, make a new talk page header on this page letting me know that a reminder I issued to you is under dispute. Use Template:AppealNotice in the new header. I will try to make a decent argument explaining why the warning should either be removed or not. After some thought, if the admins think it should be removed, the reminder or warning will be overturned. In some cases, the warning or reminder will stand, although it depends on what has happened before the appeal. One last thing, warnings or reminders issued to you by an administrator cannot be appealed. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 12:27, 13 February 2017 (EST)

Ok thanks, sorry I misunderstood

Hey, is it ok if I add Candy Kong back into the DK references for Super Mario Odyssey? (If you want to find it, just watch the first minute of the GameXplain SMO Analysis)
 * Sure, go ahead! If it gets undone, it's best to explain on their talk page why it should be on. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2017 (EST)

Battle Cards
Would you do me a favor? On the page Battle_Card_(Mario_%26_Luigi:_Paper_Jam), could you edit the table and swap the position of all the cells under "Effect" with all the cells under "How To Obtain Normal Card" (excluding the first one)? I could do it but it's something I'm not up for right now.-- 23:03, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 * Uh, sure. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 * OK, just finished a few hours ago. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:59, 16 February 2017 (EST)

A word of advice
I advice you to stop "arguing" with vandals and yelling at them in edit summaries, as you did here and in other events. It's feeding the troll, it looks quite silly, and really, don't do it. --Glowsquid (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do it. I was getting so fed up with him undoing my edit SEVERAL times. Maybe next time I shouldn't do that. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * On top of that (and partially reiterating what Glowsquid aforementioned), please do not report vandals to the Admin noticeboard unless the offense is severe enough, like you did here. Wait until they commit an offense after legitimately receiving a last warning, and give them an informal reminder, which was how I (successfully) dealt with the issue. Thanks. 14:32, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * OK, then. What they were doing was pretty severe enough in my opinion. Now, waiting until they commit either multiple offenses or one so harsh enough that it warrants an automatic block is a good idea. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 14:34, 20 February 2017 (EST)
 * You were both in the right. Leaving a note on the Admin noticeboard tells the admins of a user that needs to be dealt with. Alternatively, you can leave a reminder/warning/etc. (based on how severe the damage was) on the user's page to notify them of what they are doing wrong. Either one works.
 * And, yeah, removing content is a pretty severe action. They should've received a due to policy.  14:42, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Re: Rat Trap
eep

Thank you for letting me know! 16:57, 22 February 2017 (EST)

Appeal notice
I'm completely sorry if this is the wrong place to put it. If it is supposed to go somewhere else, please let me know where, and if it is wrong and you are allowed to remove it, please feel free to do so. Sorry. BBQ Turtle (Talk)
 * Just entered my case on the Appeals page. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:04, 5 March 2017 (EST)
 * Thank you so much! I'm really sorry for what I did, and I'm so sorry to be causing all of this nuisance. But thank you, I hope that they do at least down the warning. :D
 * Hi, me again, sorry if I'm getting annoying. I just wanted to let you know, if you didn't know already, that they have completely reverted my Last Warning (Yippee!), but I promise I won't do it again- I definitely learnt the hard way! :) BBQ Turtle (talk) 07:19, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
 * Next time something like this happens, it's always better to learn the easy way, not the hard way. Or better yet, it shouldn't happen again. Just in case, it does happen, you know what to do. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:50, 21 March 2017 (EDT)

Warning
You were reverted by an admin and you are not in the right here. The article states there are no Warp Zones in SMB2 and they don't even appear in the template. Revert once more and you will receive a Last Warning. -- 10:31, 8 March 2017 (EST)

Well
How was Disney Land? :P

19:37, 14 March 2017 (EDT)
 * Pretty good. I went with my sister and my dad and stayed three nights at the Paradise Pier hotel close to California Hotel. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 19:48, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

Card Space in Mario Party: Island Tour
Thanks for removing the card space stuff. Also, thanks for fixing my Mini Spec edit. I'll remember not to use "you" next time! -YoshiFlutterJump
 * No problem! Glad I could help! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

Summaries
Can I ask that you please be more calm in your edit summaries next time? Going off on other users, using capital letters or otherwise, is discourteous or, in the case of a vandal, would just egg them on. Nobody is perfect in their edits. You may receive a warning if this continues as this sort of thing is a level two offence. 21:40, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
 * I get annoyed on stuff like that happening, but, after all, no one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, so it's best to just let that slide and let them know how to improve...
 * Unless it's someone who's intentionally vandalizing several pages repeatedly in such a short span of time.
 * I didn't even know that could result in a warning or last warning being issued. Maybe I should just state the bare minimum next time. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:47, 29 March 2017 (EDT)

Vacation
That's your second trip to a Disney theme park in two months. Lucky! :P How was Disney World compared to Disney Land? 15:49, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
 * Better. First of all, there's four theme parks, which has a lot of variety. Secondly, the hotel I stayed at, which is the Swan Hotel, has FOUR pool spots, in conjunction with the Dolphin Hotel. And finally, the rides whether they were at Disneyland (like the Mad Tea Party) or the rides only in Florida (like the Monsters, Inc. Laugh Floor), have something for everyone. I would recommend going again in the future. Too bad a four-day pass is expensive... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2017 (EDT)

OMG Thank you!
Omg! On the Diamond City article from mario kart arcade gp, well, I just can't beilieve I completed it to the point where it is no longer a stub! Thank you! This is awesome! This is my first article that I have changed to make it not a stub anymore! Im not even autoconfirmed yet! (One more day) this is awesome!!! 21:33, 23 April 2017 Tommy 8353 (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2017 (EDT)

Jelectro
Just so you know, I actually have Super Mario Maker, and they actually are referred to as "Jelectros". (And the sea urchins are called "Sea Urchins") -- 11:03, 23 May 2017 (EDT)
 * Hmm. Must've heard Spike Trap in an earlier version of the game. Thanks for the clarification! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:32, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

Re: Guess Who!
Fixed. Thanks for the catch! :) --Andymii (talk) 13:34, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

More Monkey Madness
The article for Outrageous in Super Mario World says the same thing. I don't see the difference, unless there's something I'm missing, in which case I apologize for my mistake.
 * Sure, it may be your own personal opinion that this level is hard, but others may find it easy to beat, for example. Oh, and thanks for the apology, by the way, – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:33, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Boi
Boi, why did you delete my edit on Super Smash Bros for Wii U. That info was not opinionated. Super Smash Bros for Wii U is one of the best rated Wii U games, so take that. So what if I was listing an individual store. I was just trying to help the people who are reading the article to know where they can get it, bro. --97.101.186.114 11:48, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Sure, it IS one of the best-selling and highest-rated Wii U games. But those kinds of information would usually go in the reception section. Stating if the game is really good or not at the beginning is just your opinion. – 11:56, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * You could just remove the flame part. You even said you would on your rule 2. 11:59, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Thanks for reminding me! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 12:03, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Reverting edits
Hey, just to let you know, when reverting edits with a user who isn't listening to reason (vandal, spammer, whatever), it's best to not engage them in conversation, as doing so will just get them (and sometimes you) riled up more. Just revert the edit without saying anything and a staff member will take care of the problem when they can. 15:25, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

SMM Image
I uploaded a different version of the Super Bakarhythm Land image because the one I had previously uploaded was too blurry when I had uploaded it to the level's page. 00:17, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Volcanic Debris in Mario Kart: Super Circuit
I know this is really late and I made this edit a while ago, but the reason I changed the lava balls to say Volcanic Debris on the Lakeside Park page is because Volcanic Debris is listed on both Template:MKSC and Mario Kart: Super Circuit is also listed on the actual Volcanic Debris page, so I just thought to change it for consistency. 02:55, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
 * Time Turner actually just found an official name for the lava balls in Lakeside Park, called Lava Boulders. 00:03, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
 * Oh, OK. If that's the case, change the Volcanic Debris page for the Super Circuit to Lava Boulders or make a new page for it. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:08, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
 * I've played that game, and it acts exactly like Volcanic Debris. Because is is Volcanic Debris. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

RE: DEALT
The Ds patch was for when you played it on my 3DS it didn't work 🦊User:Woot🦊🏁 21:32, 8 August 2017 (EDT)

Warning
I think you've already been reminded once about "yelling" in summaries, and it's been something a couple of admins have noticed from you. What you said here was rude and uncalled for. It's good that you're reverting invalid edits, but there's no reason to leave an unfriendly remark aimed at the user in the summary when doing so. Simply saying something like "They're actually called Spine Coasters in the game." would've been perfectly fine here. Self-control is key in situations like this. 00:51, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
 * Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! How could a single edit summary lend itself towards a warning. That summary was just an act of confusion as to why there was a citation tag on a name a game mentions out by the way. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:59, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
 * "Confused" doesn't seem like the first thing that comes to mind to describe it, but regardless of how that summary is interpreted, remarks like that are still unacceptable. The warning was also on account for previous instances this has happened since the first reminder. 03:19, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

"Shiny" RoboBowser
I have confirmation from and  that the shiny variants of the enemies in Paper Jam don't actually have "Shiny" in their name. I can't check myself, and I noticed you corrected the link to go to the proper page, but do you know if RoboBowser is actually called "Shiny RoboBowser"? (Seems kinda pointless to call him that if there isn't a standard RoboBowser, tbh) 13:20, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
 * The game calls him that. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J4LnBMB1cw – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:21, 22 September 2017 (EDT)
 * Okay, thanks! 13:26, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

Lake Kingdom
This has been discussed, and due to the new postcard, we now know for a fact that is the Lake Kingdom. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2017 (EDT)
 * Oh, OK. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 18:43, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

Chill Bully
Regarding your edit war with Doc (first of all, that's a big no. Please talk to the other user if you have questions regarding their reversion), the Chill Bully should be considered a boss because it's a defeatable enemy that guards a Star. It may not have any music associated with it, but neither does the Big Bully, Big Boo, or Big Mr. I. 20:09, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

Shiny Article includes paper jam
The Shiny article also includes paper jam, it just hasn't yet been heavily added, or else there would be a disambiguation page. Chat Man (talk) 00:02, 11 October 2017 (EDT)
 * Alex95 has provided a clear reason why it should NOT be included in the article. If you have any questions about that, ask him. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:08, 11 October 2017 (EDT)

Donkey Kong
See how we consider Chill Bully a boss? Donkey Kong in Odyssey is about the same. He's a simple boss, but a boss nonetheless, evoking the simple boss battles in games like Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Land, and Super Mario World. He's a large, unique enemy that takes multiple hits to defeat and can only be damaged a specific way that is the final obstacle before a specific goal is met; ie, a boss. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:25, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * But, then again, most bosses in Odyssey generally are labelled as such. Does the Prima guide say that DK is a boss? If not, then it shouldn't be listed as a boss on both the navigational template and main game page. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:36, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't know if it does, but the mere definition of video game boss does, and that's what matters. Chill Bully is a boss despite not appearing in Mario Kart DS, where all the other Super Mario 64 DS bosses appeared, so being left out of a supplementary source is not grounds for removal. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:38, 10 November 2017 (EST)
 * Well, I don't have it myself at the moment. Maybe asking someone about DK's boss status in Odyssey should provide some answers. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:39, 10 November 2017 (EST)

Also
"Also, [text]" is perfectly valid and sounds fine to me. There's really no need to change that. 15:12, 14 November 2017 (EST)

Unlockable
I would like to point out that you must play toad scramble to unlock all the characters in Mario Party: Star Rush (with the exeption of Toad), thus making then unlockable. Chat Man (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Everyone is playable from the start in all modes, other than Toad Scramble. With the exception of Toadette, Rosalina, DK and Diddy. The main article's page gives more detailed information other than the brief snippets I'm giving you here. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:29, 14 November 2017 (EST)

True, but Toad Scramble is the main mode, as well as only mode available when you first get the game, Making the others modes unlockable and less important. Chat Man (talk) 22:44, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Sure, I know that Toad Scramble is the main mode, but for the rest of the game, every single character, except for Rosalina, Diddy, Toadette and DK, are available at the start. I could not have made myself any clearer than this! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 22:54, 14 November 2017 (EST)

I don't believe I could be any clearer either, the other modes are significantly less important, and is the only mode available at the start of the game. And even if it's for only one mode it doesn't change the definition of "unlockable". Chat Man (talk) 22:57, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * It does change the definition of unlockable in this manner; a character is collected in Toad Scramble, but playable at the beginning in ALL of the other modes, including the Minigames section. With the sole exception of Toadette, DK, Rosalina and Diddy, they are NOT locked in the game under ANY form. For the last time, I could not have made myself any clearer!! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:16, 14 November 2017 (EST)

I don't think you're reading what I am writing, if they cannot be obtained at the start of the game, they are unlockable, no matter how you look at it. (with those exeptions). Also its not a "sole" exeption if there's more then one... just sayin. Chat Man (talk) 23:28, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. I suggest that maybe you should try talking to an admin. If you do that, maybe you can see what they think and see if they side with my opinions or yours. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:33, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * If you don't mind me sharing my opinion... We don't judge characters based on the number of times they were or weren't unlockable. If they need to be unlocked, they're considered unlockable characters. Why would the fact that it's only restricted to one mode matter? 23:51, 14 November 2017 (EST)
 * Hence the reversions on the Wario and Waluigi page. As for the one mode restrictions, the only time that has happened was in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games in a sense. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:13, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * You said that the modes they were available from the start were unlockable? So wouldn't they be, by definition, unlockable characters, as to play as them in that mode, you have to unlock the mode, and as such, they're unlockable in all respects? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:18, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * Who said that? Me or ChatMan? Either way, the only other modes besides Toad Scramble unlocked at the beginning are three Free-for-All minigames and the Character Museum, so that kinda defeats the purpose of these so-called "unlockable" characters, not counting the actual unlockable characters in the game. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:28, 15 November 2017 (EST)

I agree we should continue this conversation, but only once will I state, that If a character Is not available at the start of the game, they are unlockable, now we both have last warnings, but for what it's worth, I'm sorry if I acted childish Chat Man (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * It's all right. Everyone makes mistakes, no one can be "perfect all the time." Sometimes it's best to work things out with a quick discussion instead of going crazy reverting the heck out of each other's edits. At this rate, one wrong move could get us blocked for a bit. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:13, 15 November 2017 (EST)

What do you say I put it as playable character in bold, and put a bullet at the bottom saying he's unlockable In Toad Scramble Mode, think that will work? Or do you have an Idea? Chat Man (talk) 22:17, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * Sure! Either that, or mention that the characters aren't playable at the beginning of a game of Toad Scramble. As long as the admins are fine with it, it's fine by me! I can't believe I didn't think of this sooner... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:32, 15 November 2017 (EST)

I'll get on it. It's nice to see that we can get along, when we aren't yelling, arguing, getting last warnings, and going crazy. I'll get on it. Chat Man (talk) 22:36, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Enough with the pointless edit warring. From what I can tell, Wario and Waluigi are unlocked in some modes and locked in others. Ergo, they are both a locked and starting character. Perhaps the information should read "Playable Character (unlockable in , starting in )". 22:58, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * I didn't start it at all. If anything, they are playable in the other modes at the beginning but are "collected" in the Toad Scramble mode. That doesn't deserve a last warning, since I was trying to get Chat Man to understand that everywhere else in the game that both Wario and Waluigi are starter characters, not unlockable. I can't believe it ended up in this mess for the past two days... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:01, 15 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't care who started it, the problem was it continued longer than it needed to. A conclusion should have happened before making repeated changes, perhaps by talking on his page. 23:03, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Barrel Blastalooza
Actually, it does work, I just went to it and it started up just fine. Click on the blue square with Dixie's face. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:38, 19 November 2017 (EST)
 * Well, for some reason, on Chrome at least, the website won't lead on the Wayback Machine for me. What operating system are you using and what web browser? The web browser might have something to do with the accessibility for the games. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:43, 19 November 2017 (EST)
 * Chrome on Windows 10. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:01, 20 November 2017 (EST)
 * Well, on my computer (running Mac OS X Yosemite Version 10.10.5 on Google Chrome, the web page won't load at all. How strange... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:05, 20 November 2017 (EST)
 * That's what you get for using a Mac. They rarely, if ever, work. I've been using my laptop from intel I rarely ever turn off. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:23, 22 November 2017 (EST)
 * How strange indeed... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:56, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Mario Party: The Top 100 Minigame Match bonus star names
Hey, do you have a complete list of all bonus stars in Minigame Match from Mario Party: The Top 100? I've gotten these on my last playthrough:


 * Minigame Star: A bonus star given to the player who won the most minigames.
 * Balloon Star: A bonus star given to the player who collected the most minigame balloons. (and yes it's in lowcaps here for some reason)
 * Easygoing Star: A bonus star given to a player who didn't advance many spaces.

I don't really feel like playing through Minigame Match repeatedly to get the rest as it's already torturous enough to sit through at least three of these things to obtain screenshots. 18:34, 29 November 2017 (EST)
 * I don't have the game yet, but I'll watch YouTube videos and see what I can do. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 19:25, 29 November 2017 (EST)
 * I'll be waiting to see if you got the information then! 19:39, 29 November 2017 (EST)

port vs. remake
if my comment did go through, your comment about ports vs. remakes is not entirely correct. a remake does not mean the game is changed or has new material. it was built from scratch. a port can have changes made and if it does then it is called an enhanced port which is what A Link to the Past/Four Swords is on the GBA. Final Fantasy 4 3D is a remake.
 * I understand what the difference is between ports and remakes, but it's really hard to grasp which games are ports, reissues or remakes. A good example of a game rebuild from the ground up would have to be Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, which also adds new content with the Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser game mode. A good example of port, which is just taking the game and putting it on a different system would have to be Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World. Sorry for the misinformation, for me it's kinda difficult to tell the difference between remakes and ports. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:32, 10 December 2017 (EST)

Mario & Luigi song names
That is exactly what I am saying, we should put the names of the songs in the original game as well. After all, why are we only putting the names of the remake songs and not the original songs? We should really be calling it List of Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga music and not List of Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions music, because that does not make any sense. 21:27, 11 December 2017 (EST)
 * Because that is what they are called in the remake. I haven't unlocked all of the music tracks but, of the ones I did unlock, I'm positive that the originals were called exactly what was shown on the music page, the same as the remixes, only without the "DX" at the end. I'm not sure if I've made myself really clear, but this is as clear as I'm going to get for the moment. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:40, 11 December 2017 (EST)
 * Actually, no. "Touch of Evil" was called "Devastation" in the original game, and "Danger Abounds!" was called "Danger!" in the original game, and so on and so forth. I am saying, shouldn't we put the original names as well with the remake names? I'm not saying only one should be there, I am saying that both should be there. 22:09, 11 December 2017 (EST)

Canadians
Hey, don't be mean to the Canadians. They are a hardworking group of people, and I will tell you, as Americans, we should learn a lot from them. Other than that, carry on as usual. 21:51, 14 December 2017 (EST)
 * I wasn't. That comment was completely invalid. This wiki uses American spelling, not Canadian or British spelling. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:57, 14 December 2017 (EST)
 * I know, I was just playing with you, man. You know, that's one of the things I hate about the Internet in general--you can't tell whether someone is joking or not. 21:59, 14 December 2017 (EST)

Hariet
Hare. Rabbit. She's a lagomorph of some non-pika variety. Hence the pun. Note the other puns with Spew-art and Topper (as in Top Hat). Rango's also the tallest, and therefor the rangiest, though that one might stretch it a bit. "Hariet" is just an obvious "Hare" pun. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2017 (EST)

User page
I was looking at your user page (cause its actually pretty cool) and I saw the Section of things that annoy you. You included the section about Waluigi (I'm not sure if that was our edit war, but regardless) It's not very sporting or polite to advertise that. We're past whose wrong or right, but taking half of it to announce how you were right just isn't very mature, and I don't want people to see how rude, and brash I was during that. Then again you might be referring to something else, so I apologize if I wasted your time. Chat Man (talk) 23:22, 10 January 2018 (EST)
 * Removed it. I didn't even read the message before I did the change; I saw the header in the edit summaries list and deleted it (changing it to "I won't mention any examples"). – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:43, 10 January 2018 (EST)

Ports vs. remake
That link you sent me has misinformation. A Link to the Past on the VC is an emulation, not a port. The GBA version was not coded from scratch and obscure bugs plus data from the Chris Houlihan room still exist. I highly doubt the developers were going to replicate bugs they were unaware about especially having an entrance error on Death Mountain left unchanged.
 * Oh, yeah? Well, when Ocarina of Time 3D was being created, they actually left some of the original N64 glitches in the 3DS game "intentionally" in the first version. Saw that info on a Did You Know Gaming? video. And about the Virtual Console. Yeah, I know it emulates the classics so I wouldn't consider that a port or a remake by any means. Hopefully this conversation about what considers a remake, port or emulation can end peacefully... – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:04, 12 January 2018 (EST)

Thanks, I appreciate it Chat Man (talk) 12:35, 13 January 2018 (EST)

Votes cast after deadline
Can you direct me to the proposal you mentioned? 20:32, 21 February 2018 (EST)
 * Not sure which one is was at the moment, but in the history of either a talk page one or the main one, there was a proposal in which me and several other users voted a few minutes before the proposal closed and was archived. Sure, it is from my own memory, but if I find the actual proposal in which this has happened, I'll be sure to let you know. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 20:38, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Sunshine outfit
You realize there are people on the Wiki with the game, right? I have it, for example. Admittedly, I haven't downloaded the DLC yet, but that's neither here nor there. If it's out, and can be easily replicated, a ref needed tag is not needed. Just a friendly reminder. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:30, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * And as a less than friendly reminder, honestly just put the effort into looking it up next time. I confirmed there was video evidence, found straight away by searching "sunshine outfit seaside", which are three very obvious keywords here. It wasn't difficult in the slightest and I cannot believe for a moment you actually tried. Please do next time.-- 13:37, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * There's no need to be rude here, Eldritchdraaks. 13:40, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * Actually I tried searching "super mario odyssey seaside kingdom sunshine shades" and didn't find anything. Thanks for directing me to video evidence! But, in all honesty, everyone has different preferences when it comes to finding information, whether it's news articles or videos. In my case, many keywords work better than short ones in the search bar on YouTube for the most part, in my opinion. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * I apologize for my rudeness. "Tried searching YouTube and found jack-squat. Putting a ref needed tag until either someone plays the game and it works or until a YouTube video is uploaded." I did not appreciate this comment as it implied I was lying about the video, which is why I responded in such a rude manner. Next time please ask us. -- 13:47, 8 March 2018 (EST)

Rule 13
As a side topic, could you explain why you have Rule 13 on your talk page? It comes off as very self entitled, and I want to make sure I'm just misinterpreting it.-- 13:52, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * "Please don't bother asking why I changed or reverted your edit. I usually have a good reason for doing so and can back it up. Also, "if you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." In the end, it's best you don't even try, like what happened at sections 13 and 34."
 * Oh, it's just to make sure that if I have a very good reason for undoing the edit and someone asks me about it, then I can just clarify it on the talk page, in case the edit summary wasn't enough. I'll make some minor edits to make it sound less-rude. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:55, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * That would be a very good idea.-- 14:00, 8 March 2018 (EST)

Lightning (move)
Before you end up getting in an edit war, I want to point you to this proposal that decided on what to do with the move. Feel free to read over it. It was decided to leave it and the Mario Kart lightning item separate, so the trivia should be left off the page. I'll tell this to 's page as well. 15:24, 15 March 2018 (EDT)

Undoing edits
You really need to confirm the validity of other users' edits before undoing them next time. Some of the ones you've removed, including this recent one (not everything in the level is confined within one screenshot btw), were completely legitimate information that could have easily been verified simply by checking the game itself, or even YouTube. If you're unable to verify, then it's not your place to remove information that you don't know to be true or not. I understand you're being cautious when it comes to other users, especially anonymous users and new users, making false and bad-faith edits, but immediately doubting the legitimacy of every edit they make is not a good perspective to have. If you need to, you can always seek verification from other users through the talk page or edit summary. 21:40, 15 March 2018 (EDT)

Diddy Kong in Mario Golf
I understand and am aware it was already mentioned on Diddy Kong's page, but why can't it be mentioned on the game's page?--TheGreenBeetle (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2018 (EDT)TheGreenBeetle--TheGreenBeetle (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2018 (EDT)
 * First of all, when you make a new talk discussion, click the + button at the top of the talk page. This will automatically begin a new section at the bottom of the page. I'm saying this because you managed to start this talk at the top of my page instead of the bottom. It is universally accepted that new talk starts at the bottom. Secondly, it "is" mentioned on the Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour page, when it covers the playable characters here. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 21:09, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

RE:Mario Party: Star Rush pause descriptions
The reason I removed them is because a few of those descriptions are potentially confusing for newer readers (I, for one, was initially confused with some of these descriptions.) and the fact that they're inconsistent with control listings from other minigame articles (we don't always go by the in-game descriptions). That said, feel free to re-add them if I'm wrong for some reason. Thanks! 23:45, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

Yoshi's New Island
While it is true that most articles relating to it need some TLC, I'm not really sure if there's a point to tagging specific ones with a rewrite-expand template, when they all basically need that. The reason they're like that, of course, is the game's infamous soullessness that causes a lot of things to be easily-forgettable by the actually not-too-large amount of people who have actually played it. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:17, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
 * True, true. The game didn't get very good reviews upon release, but that shouldn't excuse the fact that this is supposed to be a "complete" encyclopedia on all things Mario, not have the bare minimum that barely explains anything. If anything, they should be like the currently under improvement New Super Mario Bros. U level tags. I'd help if I could, but I don't know all of the levels inside-and-out and beat some levels using the Flutter Wings and Golden Flutter Wings. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:12, 2 June 2018 (EDT)

Small Mario
Those comparisons/tidbits are still necessary as they emphasize and point out how the pre-Fall 2017 versions are inconsistent with how Peach, Toad and Toadette played in Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D World, and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. In those games they could shrink but not in the pre-Fall 2017 versions. And those games are not unrelated as they are still related games as they have those said characters playable which Super Mario Run also has. The major inconsistancy is when Peach, Toad, and Toadette return in their Small forms in the post-Fall 2017 versions which is inconsistant with Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D World, and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker where Peach, Toad and Toadette return back to being in the usual Super forms. That is a major emphasis. The reason why the comparisons are split across multiple games is that Peach and Toad do not appear in Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, while Toadette doesn't appear in Super Mario Bros. 2 (as she wasn't created yet) or Super Mario 3D World. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is related to Main series in that it is the prequel to a Main series title which is Super Mario 3D World so it has it's relationship with that title. The comparisons/tidbits are still relevant. --99.227.180.3 01:20, 10 June 2018 (EDT)

Necky's a Nutcase
Rareware is practically synonymous with "random innuendos in childrens' games." That should honestly be reason enough for it to stay. Note how one boss is Banjo Tooie is named "Lord Woo Fak Fak," which apparently stemmed from some angry swearing rant one of the creators had during production that the others found funny enough to add it in as a name. (Side note, coconuts aren't even nuts; technically speaking, they're drupes. Furthermore, Mario JC said on the talk page it would be fine and was probable.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2018 (EDT)
 * Nice pun with the talk page header. Sure, go ahead and add it back, but preferably in the main paragraph, not as a trivia point, unless you think otherwise. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 17:27, 21 June 2018 (EDT)

Island Tour board intros
In case you're wondering, I'm unable to take snapshots of the board intros. The game disables the Home screen function while the intro is playing, and the home screen button is what I use to take screenshots with. 15:02, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Oh, well I can help get the rest of the intros for Kamek's Carpet Ride and Shy Guy's Shuffle City. If I can find some YouTube videos for these, then I can upload them here. Do you think an image for the EU version of the Bowser's Peculiar Peak board would be necessary? – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:10, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 * I guess that would be helpful for the Bowser's Peculiar Peak article yeah. Also, if there's a screenshot with Fly Guy in Shy Guy's Shuffle City, would be great for the appearances table, that board is entirely off-limits for me. 15:11, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 * I'll try my best to get what you need! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:20, 31 July 2018 (EDT)

And done! Every board image is now uniform with each other and I got that Fly Guy image uploaded and put onto the page. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:49, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 * aaaaand thank you very much! I'll probably try to finish up the Island Tour article with what I got...though I do think we need an expanded section on the bubbles you can buy somewhere, maybe allocated into its own page (though this might be tricky because again, Shy Guy's Shuffle City is something I really can't unlock pffft) 21:56, 31 July 2018 (EDT)

Hmm, shouldn't Sorry! Card and Champion Card get their own articles? They're on the nav template for some reason and they don't seem to have articles. Could you get a picture of them? 13:59, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Sure...I guess. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 14:14, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 * If you're looking for Champion Card and Sorry! Card sprites, try ripping them via screenshot from this video. Hope that helps. 23:59, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

The wording
Sorry, I was using the microphone text and forgot to check the error! Never trust microphone texts Lol TheGreenBeetle (talk) 13:12, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Well, thanks for clarifying what exactly went wrong! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 13:21, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Behemoth King
Any plans on expanding the Behemoth King article? It's been sitting for around 8 months right now, and I'd like to get rid of it from the unimplemented proposals list. 23:08, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I completely forgot about that actually. I'd love to, but I don't have the game. I'm sure some YouTube videos could help explain this boss in detail; as long as it covers everything. I'll try to get around to doing it, if I don't in the next couple days, you or someone else can do it for me. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:26, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

RE:Merging game modes into main article
Thanks, I'll try to take a look at the articles whenever I can and merge them where appropriate. 23:56, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

"Instruction manual"
Technically, "instruction book," "instruction manual," and "instruction booklet" are all on the same level of official-ness. There is no law dictating that one is the "most official" term, and many, many, many sources publish these things. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2018 (EDT)

Living Room Rally
Hey, is there a way you can be a bit more specific on the amount of obstacles in the article? I still feel like "few" and "more" are still quite vague. Also, I'm a bit uncertain on the hardest part where it says it's "impossible", I haven't played the game, but I question whether developers would actually make an impossible game.
 * It seems the improvements have already been done. But I have played WarioWare: Touched! before on Wii U Vritual Console. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:06, 5 October 2018 (EDT)

Goomba Tower
I see you undid the revision of this I.P. I think he found it here. -- 04:44, 6 October 2018 (EDT)