User talk:Archivist Toadette/Archive 2

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Scrap articles
If you're planning to create articles for the Sticker Star scraps, I would suggest going down a similar path to that of the Odyssey missions and only create articles for the ones that Mario picks up at one location (and the "You got the [scrap]!" prompt pops up) and places in another. Scraps that Mario simply peels off, keeps in his scrapbook for a brief moment before putting it back on in the correct orientation at the same spot are not worth making pages for. 01:38, 23 January 2018 (EST)


 * I don't know if you missed this or anything, but I'd like to draw your attention to my post here. At the very least a talk page discussion on this should be held first. 01:48, 29 March 2018 (EDT)


 * It seemed to me though that you're planning to create articles for all of them, judging by the links you added and kept on the sticker page and, not to mention the Decalburg Fountain falls under the kind of scraps I advised against creating articles for. Since others might have different points, it's always a good idea to get some consensus (or even start a proposal if it's a major change or the opinions are divided enough) before going ahead with something like this, like, "Should the scraps get articles, and if so, which ones?" 09:31, 29 March 2018 (EDT)


 * One thing at a time. Talk it out first.


 * Come to think of it, I don't even know why the scraps are on the same page since they're not stickers. Either way, I don't think a separate page for paperised scraps is necessary if they can be summarised on the main list itself. 08:24, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

M+R Buttons
It's perfectly fine to use the button images and information from the manual, considering the information would be more official than what we can provide on our own. It would also be more accurate and represents the in game material. 17:06, 23 January 2018 (EST)
 * If there's an error in the description, it can be noted, but otherwise there isn't a need to have both.
 * These buttons aren't going to be used on every page, just the Mario + Rabbids. Considering that, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be there (the images we have for the Switch controls need some help, anyway). 17:18, 23 January 2018 (EST)
 * Easier, sure, but where's the fun in that? Perhaps I'll take it up with the others then, as you're right, there is no policy for this. 17:43, 23 January 2018 (EST)
 * If we have access to the official in-game button graphics, I don't see anything wrong with using them. 02:02, 24 January 2018 (EST)

RE: Restoration
That's reserved for functions and features that would be worth keeping around for future reference. I don't see the use in keeping this empty category for the sake of leaving the notice on it. It's not really "abandoned" altogether, either; just replaced with Category:To be deleted. 21:20, 25 January 2018 (EST)

Not really a reference? This looks similar.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/plantsvszombies/images/f/fb/Homing_Thistle2.png  Music Video 123  (talk) 00:50, 30 January 2018 (EST)


 * Spherical cacti with flowers on them exist in the real world, so it's just a coincidence. 01:44, 30 January 2018 (EST)

Re:Thanks
It's no big thing. 08:43, 3 February 2018 (EST)

Vandal
First of all, that is not how you alert an admin of vandal attacks. It's part of the administration's job to instantly revert such edits upon sight, so obvious I would have known if I had seen it. Unfortunately, I wasn't online to see it, despite my name appearing on WhosOnline on the Recent Changes (and stayed there longer than usual for reason). And no, the username doesn't need to be renamed as it isn't inappropriate. Good night. 09:16, 3 February 2018 (EST)

FA template
Your template looks good! I think we could use it to ease archiving FA nominations. 23:10, 5 February 2018 (EST)

Mario vs. DK levels
While I am not actively editing anymore, I do lurk the site quite frequently and I have seen your progress. Good job bringing these levels from Mini-Land Mayhem onto the wiki! Hope to see more things like this in the future. -- 16:23, 6 February 2018 (EST)

Just Wanted To Speak.
Hey, are You able To Talk? User:LUIGIRULES71 LUIGIRULES71 (talk) 23:10, 9 February 2018 (EST)

Sockpuppets page
Can I ask what the purpose for this page is, and whether you asked permission to create it? It looks like you're just listing and describing each sockpuppet in a similar vein to a Userpedia page, and it seems like a good way to provoke sockpuppets if they come across it. If you intend to keep track of sockpuppets for a future proposal or something, please keep it off-site. 18:53, 13 February 2018 (EST)

"Nothing has been brought up since the last proposal"
Incorrect, according to an edit summary from Link-the-Lefty, it was discovered that a similar Chuck Cunningham'd enemy, Blargg, has its Japanese name used for a similar later enemy (Magmarrgh), which itself has a different official Japanese name. And they're not merged. That alone is precedence and reason to split the Moles for consistency. In fact, the moles are even more different from each other than the lunging lava dinosaurs are. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:58, 14 February 2018 (EST)
 * And you outright stated incorrect information in your extended argument. Blargg and Magmarrgh attack exactly the same (hiding under surface of lava with only their eyes visible, then lunging out, mouth open, upon approach), while the moles are nothing alike in that regard. So the lava creatures are even closer to each other than this. Also, using a cartoon to back you up regarding elements from games is laughably silly. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:13, 14 February 2018 (EST)
 * I have now, it's hard to do so when I was typing that out when you posted it. Either way, using a boss flunky is flawed per Big Pokey. There is not enough evidence saying these moles are the same! And a ton of information saying they're different! The only reason for them to be merged is a flawed idea of convenience! Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2018 (EST)
 * Like I said before, that comparison doesn't work, as this has never been "Kyodai Choropu," "Deka Choropu," "Biggu Choropu," "Atomikku Choropu," et cetera. Neither was intended as simply a "big" counterpart; that didn't exist until Star Rush for Monty. Rather, these are extra-changed permutations thereof, akin to Banzai Bill vs. its more generic counterpart, the Big Bullet Bill, or to Tub-O-Troopa vs. the more generic Colossal Koopa Paratroopa. Both names are completely different from the various "large" addendum-using ones: "Indy" seems random, while "Goropu" makes a pun on an earthquake rumbling sound. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:31, 14 February 2018 (EST)
 * I never said "generic subject," I said that neither are simply an enlarged version, which is what the case for the various "Big Goombas" and "Big Boos" is. These are completely different from each other: look completely different, act completely different, are named completely different, and have completely different weaknesses! This is not a case like Big Goomba where one of those categories may be different and the rest be the same, this is a case where all of the above are different! The only thing even putting forth the smallest suggestion that there's even a direct relation is a file name, which leaves even less similarities than Blargg and Magmmaargh or Moneybag and Coin Coffer! Saying there is enough room to call them the same requires pure speculation, while listing them as separate uses caution and reservation, which is the best thing to do when there's no explicit official word. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:00, 15 February 2018 (EST)
 * They have different names, neither of which are a simple rewording (ie the "giant" to "big"). Also, they are physically very different, to the point that calling them the same is less likely than saying Boss Bass and Big Cheep Cheep are the same (as Boss Bass was originally "Kyodai Pukupuku," or Giant Cheep Cheep.) It's best to be cautious and list significantly-different things as different rather than lump them together, as that requires more speculation (ie, how it was "redesigned" and "retooled" and things like that). I prefer to be cautious and not list things together based off of potential red herrings. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:09, 15 February 2018 (EST)

Level Image Widths
I see you creating articles with images with a 250px width. Instead of 250px, do 256px, since that is the width of a Nintendo DS screen. Also do so for NES/SNES (256px), GB/GBC (160px), and GBA (240px). The blur or pixelization will go away, depending on if the specified width is smaller or bigger than the source image. -- 00:08, 22 February 2018 (EST)

Whoops
Thanks for fixing that! 10:46, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Level disambiguations
Thanks for creating Level 1-5 and Level 1-6 disambiguation pages, I complete forgot about them. However, only Tipping Stars have a seventh and eighth level, so Level 1-7 and Level 1-8 should be the levels themselves. Mario vs. Donkey Kong instead uses Level 1-mm and Level 1-DK, which I will create tomorrow hopefully. 15:37, 8 March 2018 (EST)

Reminder
Your responses here were out of line. Having this sort of overbearing and impatient attitude in talk discussions and on the wiki in general is entirely unacceptable, especially towards the proprietor. 19:18, 8 March 2018 (EST)

"Punctuation included in proper nouns is usually ignored.'
Under what style guide? The Chicago Manual of Style and the APA Style both say to exclude periods when the title already contains a punctuation mark, and the wiki's says nothing about it. 16:08, 9 March 2018 (EST)

Re:Plagiarism
I'm offended by this libelous usage of my intellectual property. Please pay me dividends of five Brozoufs for the next three exocycles if you intend to go forward with that proposal.

[Yeah it's similar but I'm flattered more than anything and beside, I'm ripped off people consciously [and probably unconsciously] during my wiki years. You're fine.] --Glowsquid (talk) 20:33, 19 March 2018 (EDT)

RE: Rotating Magnet Stick
There is actually a Magnet Rod article that exists, which seems to be referring to the object that makes the Minis stick to walls and ceilings. It's possible the name "Rotating Magnet Sticks" was changed to "Magnet Rods" in Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! or whoever created the Magnet Rod article got the two objects confused. I don't have a source for the name, as I don't actually own any of the Mario vs. Donkey Kong games. I think you should try asking Lord Bowser if he owns any of the games and has any more info, as he created the Magnet Rod article. And as for "Magnet Blocks", Magnetic Block exists, which refers to the place-able blocks that resemble Pink Blocks. (Magnet Block exists as well but it refers to an unrelated block in Yoshi's Island DS.) Sorry if this didn't really help. 22:32, 19 March 2018 (EDT)
 * Considering that Tipping Stars is their most recent appearance, I think that would be a good idea. 22:41, 19 March 2018 (EDT)

RE: Foreign names
No I hadn't forgotten, getting the names would require playing through the game from the beginning, since the objective titles don't appear again after you complete them, and I don't really feel like doing that right now. At best I can probably find the Japanese names on YouTube since they're fairly easy to find; Chinese names less so. 01:47, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

RE:Draft proposal
You brought up some pretty good points, thank you for expanding upon my proposal. You have one supporter! -- 17:01, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
 * The Proposal is neat, but apparently, I see some flaws. First, currently Cosmic Adventure is not listed in the Outer Space Locations Category, so that can't exactly be used as it is not part of the category. And changing the category just so that a few (not sure how many) can be add doesn't sound that convincing. Second, all of the entries in the current category fits the bill of Outer Space and I am not seeing any that would not. And of those that are partially in Outer Space are still good because they have another category besides. Third, the only Rainbow Roads that are in space are all except SNES, GBA, and GCN, which those except SNES, which doesn't have a category, have the Sky category. Third, besides Cosmic Adventure, I am not sure if the new definition would benefit the wiki. This is even after looking at Wikipedia. Also, Outer Space is anything but the home planet of Mario. This is without any definition changes. Finally, even though I don't know what deep space actually means, there is a series call Deep Space Nine, which is part of the Star Trek franchise. And the Star Trek franchise is adventures that take place in outer space with the occasional inclusion of Earth. And space is in deep space. So, this two-sided argument shows that it is in outer space. 17:37, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
 * "Also, Outer Space is anything but the home planet of Mario." I hope this will be said for the last time: the outer space is only the big void/vacuum/nothing between celestial bodies. What exactly makes Mario's planet more distinct from other planets in that sense? Why is Moon Kingdom in the outer space, but the Mushroom Kingdom not? Both are just as much in outer space as Yoshi Village and Luigi's Mansion are in the opean ocean.
 * "Also, Outer Space is anything but the home planet of Mario." in context of Mario only. It is the same as the definition with Earth, but since it is Mario, it is his home planet. Our moon is in Outer Space even though it is very close to Earth. Also, this is going by the second definition on the Wikipedia site. 18:20, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
 * @Toadette: I do start to believe the "Cosmic" definition wouldn't be very accurate either. Paying more attention to the term, it seems to define a range of objects in the universe that is just as big as the outer space's. We should go with something like "Alien Locations". Yeah, this should fit the bill. -- 18:01, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

(reply) 1. Good point. But, try doing research before trying to include it in proposals. 2. For World 9 in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, it is above all worlds (which includes a sky/cloud world). Superstar Road has been already explained. Moon Kingdom is part of the Moon. 3. Star Trek is a secondary logic that shows that deep space refers to outer space. As for banning the generic terms, outer space does have gameplay and story for some, but for all is hard to judge. Bonus 1. I thought you looked it up on Wikipedia. Where, it is whatever you provided then. Bonus 2. After some thinking, I have a suggestion. I think that it should be named simply Space Locations (to go with the Space Category) and/or change the line of Outer Space Category to match that of the other general location categories. This is the best that I can come up with besides Cosmic. If Cosmic is better than Space, then it effects the Space category as well. 22:58, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

Mini-Land Mayhem
Taking a break from the Outer Space discussion, I have to ask you: do you own Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem? If you have it, could you please check the info I added so far in its article? I'm referring to the gameplay section and I am most interested in knowing your opinion on the Construction Zone section. I haven't played the game myself, having based my writing on gameplay videos and my experience with Tipping Stars, which is a very similar game. -- 09:42, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
 * Added, thank you! Feel free to correct inaccuracies. -- 16:19, 22 March 2018 (EDT)

I decided to ask you since you have the game. Where or when does this music play in Mini-Land Mayhem? -- 10:02, 27 March 2018 (EDT)

RE: Hotel Mario levels
Since all of the levels of each world (hotel) are simply titled Stage 1, 2 etc. as opposed to something more distinctive like Stage 1-1, Stage 2-1 etc., that would make six Hotel Mario pages of the same stage number, too many to fit into an template, so I'd say the current Stage 1 to 4 pages should be turned into disambiguation pages in that case. 05:48, 24 March 2018 (EDT)

Your 1up Toad Proposal
Hey, can you change it to be multi-option to give an option for simply moving the info to the 1-Up Mushroom article? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:56, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
 * Thanks ^-^ Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:16, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

RE: Stub
Please review the second verse of the message i made which clarify the deletion.

Not a fan of your message to L151, specifically your final line "In the future, I recommend you judge whether a short article has effort put into it before deleting it as a stub." This tone is unacceptable, as you were already reminded once about. Asking questions or voicing a concern is fine, but outright telling an admin to change their behavior is a violation of courtesy. 17:15, 6 April 2018 (EDT)

I myself noticed far too much emphasis in certain places, creating a very petulant tone. Probably ought to hold back on that specifically as well. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2018 (EDT)

"get into"
Ehhh, I wouldn't say it's "colloquial." It's not the most formal way of saying it, but it's nothing along the lines of slang, jargon, or a figure of speech. It's a tense-altered version of the word "go" followed by a generic descriptor, and as such is more of a quick and simple manner of stating a point. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:33, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Super Mario Bros Microgames
It's not an about template. It's a piece of info noting that the basis game's resources were used multiple times in the game, which is some interesting information, IMHO. Keeping it out would be like not mentioning Waluigi on Wario's Mario Tennis 64 section. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Rocky Wrench
The name of Monty Mole in Japanese seems to translate to "Poo that darts around." If official nomenclature isn't enough to say that something is based off of something else, nothing is. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:52, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Re:Goomba Switch
The closest that the guide comes to an official name is the following line: "Coax down the icicle at the foot of the small platform holding a Goomba button, then use the top of the fallen ice as a step." (Snow Kingdom: Mario's Itinerary tab of the eGuide; can't access my physical guide atm). All other references are completely generic, i.e. variations on "the switch" or "the button". 16:55, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
 * "Goomba button" is the closest we'll get to a concrete name, so sure. 17:01, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
 * I'll be inconvenienced soon, but I'll update it when I can. 17:03, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

Hey
While I appreciate the support here, popping in just to say "I agree with the admin" isn't necessary. It can make the user feel like they're being ganged up on, for example. To quote Courtesy: "Getting yourself involved when the admins have it covered just makes their jobs harder: if they're on the scene, stay out of it." 16:50, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Donkey Kong Country photograph sections
They may not need the "only"... but do they need the "(Game Boy Advance)" suffix at all? I think a nicer presentation might be tooltipped text saying "Photographs are only found in the Game Boy Advance version of Donkey Kong Country" or always including a wikilink to Photograph in those sections. --The  Retro   Gamer  17:57, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
 * I don't necessarily think the "only" is unnecessary. If it just says "Game Boy Advance version", one may be led to wonder why there isn't a section on the photographs in the SNES version. --The   Retro   Gamer  18:32, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

Re: Comments on Porplemontage's talk
I'm a bit confused by your comment "since it seems to be the only major change The Retro Gamer hasn't really discussed with you" on Steve's talk. It seems to be a slight misunderstanding of our previous discussion, and a strange way to frame your question. While I have no problem with Steve offering his opinion, proposals are already a public forum of sorts where changes can be discussed and dissected, so I don't think it was necessary to bring me into it personally. --The  Retro   Gamer  16:07, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
 * You've asked several times to give his opinion on proposals and talk pages. Based on how you have these discussions worded, it seem like you're trying to get him to sway the conversation in your favor. Talk:Bub is a peculiar example, where you posted a question and then went to Steve to get his own opinion. One of them wasn't even about your own proposal, and the same goes for the current proposal. There's no need to drag the proprietor into these conversations that are supposed to be solved by the community. The top of his talk page even says not to bother him unless there's a serious issue involved with the wiki coding.  16:08, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

Luigi's Girlfriend vandal
The vandal publicly asked on their Twitter for people to assist them. It should probably stay protected for at least a while. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:18, 1 May 2018 (EDT)


 * @Doc I understand you're trying to help, but I'd appreciate it if you leave admin-related questions for admins to answer. But yes, having a large following, she did publicly ask users including those who may be autoconfirmed to help her, so the protection still stands.


 * Also, any admin is required to step in should a mistake be made. Level of involvement is completely irrelevant. 03:34, 2 May 2018 (EDT)


 * No, I don't see why we need to acknowledge the tweet in the reasoning. It's fine as it is. 08:22, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

Re: Recent log deletion
It's nothing to be concern about, also let this older message continue to be a reminder for you. Don't attempt to continue this attitude, unless it deeply concerns the Wiki and the policies.

Children's Television Act
. Still doesn't need to be added, probably. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:41, 5 May 2018 (EDT)