User talk:Porplemontage/Archive 15

List of games organized by system
How did I do? Was I good? I hope I didn't cause any trouble. I added all the games, ports and systems I discovered by researching many websites. I hope my work was helpful. There might be more. Lord Falafel (talk) 21:32, May 28, 2019 (EDT)
 * Looks good, thanks! -- 22:24, May 28, 2019 (EDT)

Expansion
I think we should branch out. Why do we only cover Nintendo franchises? We have the super Mario wiki and the bulbapedia and others, but where are the sonic wiki, teenage mutant ninja turtles wiki, power rangers wiki and all the others? Why not have wikis of all franchises with obscure media? Think of all the franchises there are. Sure, there are lots of pages made by other people, but we need to be at the top. I have been studying obscure games since new year's eve 2015 and I have 3 notebooks with obscure games that need popularization. What do you think of my idea? Lord Falafel (talk) 23:46, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * I think it would be disingenuous for NIWA to expand just to "be on top" and if you're passionate about those things then you should create a wiki/network for them! -- 10:48, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

How do I do that? Lord Falafel (talk) 19:35, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
 * Purchase a domain, web hosting, and install MediaWiki. -- 02:17, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

Urgent matters
Do you know any members of the super Mario wiki who live in Japan and speak both Japanese and English and have 120,000 yen? Because an obscure Mario seesaw ride is on Yahoo Japan and it expires in 11 hours. It's called super Mario seesaw takeover. It costs 120,000 yen. We cannot let this obscure piece of Mario history go away. Please find someone really fast. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:10, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

I have the auction ID. It's Q165133918. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:14, June 19, 2019 (EDT)


 * Sorry I don't know anyone. -- 23:20, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

No matter. Alex95 found it and posted the link to our discord. It's called super Mario seesaw takeover and it was made by Banpresto who was known for making many Japan only arcade machines under the license of the original owners. They made games based on Mario, Ultraman, kamen rider, doraemon, pokémon, Thomas the tank engine and so many anpanman games that you could put the anpanman games alone all in a hotel. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:04, June 20, 2019 (EDT)

I can't login.
I can't login here. This is the user George Jones by the way. I am in Internet Explorer. It says that someone else is trying to hijack my account when it isn't true. Also I have problems with the Marioboards. I login, it says verification failed when I entered my username and password correctly. And it logs me in and logs me out when I try to post. Question is, should I use a different browser? 107.190.144.102 13:57, June 21, 2019 (EDT)

Oh, here's what it says when I try to login. "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form" 107.190.144.102 13:59, June 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * Try clearing your cookies or using a different browser. -- 14:01, June 21, 2019 (EDT)

I found a fix for the Marioboards problem. But it seems like after trying a different browser I forgot my password for here with no way to retrieve reset it or it. So I'll have to create a new account and ask an admin to block my old account when I create my new account. 107.190.144.102 14:12, June 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * If you tell me your email I can reset it 14:19, June 21, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah I shouldn't of had created a new account. Should I PM you on the forums? 107.190.144.102 14:48, June 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah that works 14:49, June 21, 2019 (EDT)

Another upgrade for the list of games organized by system
I recently thought there's a difference between released games and ports with no available release date information and games that didn't get released everywhere. And there are platforms in the other category that were released and have no available release date information whether they were released in one country or more and should be kept that way, until release date information pops up. But as for games that are released exclusively in 1, 2, 3 or 4 countries, the localizations that haven't been confirmed to exist shouldn't say N/A like released games with no available release date information do, they should say canceled. That is until localized release date information appears on the internet as well. And I had to tell you about this upgrade idea that I thought of bestowing upon the list of games organized by system, because making big upgrades like this without telling someone in a high position is a big no-no, according to the guidelines. And since you reply in a decent amount of time to someone and aren't one of those people in the world who are too busy in their lives to reply to anyone who sends them messages and since you're the founder of this wiki, I thought it'd be best to talk to you about this. Do you think we should do this move? And if not, that's ok. I just don't want this website to confuse the general public. Lord Falafel (talk) 16:44, June 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * It should say N/A if a game was not released in a given region. If we know that a game was released in a region but we don't know the date, I think it should say Unknown. I don't know why canceled games are on that list; if a game wasn't released at all I don't think it should be on List of games, I think it should be on List of unreleased media. -- 00:57, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Unfortunately, Alex95 has been disagreeing with me on including the cancelled Mario party 2 port for the 64DD on the list of unreleased media. I think that is unjustified. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:02, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * Not so much the game itself, but the source was invalid, as it was citing wikia. If you can find a more proper source, it can be added back; but isn't it just Mario Party 2 and can go on its cut content page? 01:08, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Yes. Lord Falafel (talk) 01:25, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Text replacement
Hi, would you mind replacing the following instances: Thanks! 13:30, July 2, 2019 (EDT)
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 * I appreciate the copypasta, next time put the open-pipe one ( to  ) last and I can go right down the line! -- 15:39, July 2, 2019 (EDT)

Troublemaker
Hey, boss. There's an anonymous user editing HiT Entertainment as the developer for all the flash games on Nintendo arcade. All of them. Super Paper Mario Memory Match, Dr. Mario Vitamin Toss, Tetris DS Puzzle Mode, etc. His number is 99.0.105.95 and I reverted all those edits except 1, which Owen reverted. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:13, July 12, 2019 (EDT)


 * You don’t have to call him boss, but, ok. 15:15, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

Ip
We really need to make ALL Ip’s unable to edit, because we need to be able to use warning templates, either that, or what I said above ^^^ 15:19, July 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * Even if a lot of IPs are vandals, there are still quite a few that are legitimate contributors. It can be quite inconvenient to be forced to make an account for every single wiki you want to edit, especially if you only plan on making one or two edits.  Blocking IPs could actually deter potentially good contributors from editing, and no one wants that.  As for giving IPs warnings, unlike user accounts, IPs can be shared by multiple editors, or adopted by a different editor years later.  It's also very easy to change your IP, so there isn't much point.  Same reason we don't permaban anonymous users. - 14:53, July 14, 2019 (EDT)

Colors
Do you think we should highlight games on the list of games in different colors based on what they are? Maybe even just a few colors? Like ports, remakes, reissues, etc.? Lord Falafel (talk) 21:48, July 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * Nah. Those aren't official designations and I don't think we need to add our own twist to it. -- 23:53, July 14, 2019 (EDT)

Potentially moving files
Greetings. I was wondering if you would be willing to use the text replace on two Mario Galaxy files for me. The two files are File:SmG.jpg (spookily is used on exactly 100 pages) and File:Thwomp2.PNG. Both I would argue are not specific enough names, the former uses funky capitalization, and the latter has an uppercase extension. You may be saying "now wait, you haven't moved them to a new name yet!" and you would be right. I wanted to confirm you would be willing to replace text before I actually move them in case you were like "no way". If you do want to assist, I am more than happy to move them to the new names whenever you have the time presented. Thanks a bundle. Trig - 21:34, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
 * Sure I can do it. -- 22:16, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
 * Thwomp2 moved to File:SMG Thwomp Alternate Render.png and SmG moved to File:Super Mario Galaxy NA Box Art.jpg. Thaaaaanks Trig - 22:44, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

Hello, I'm back again. This time, I would like to move File:Mushroom2.PNG to File:Mushroom.png if possible, so that the capitalization is consistent per policy, and it removes an unnecessary 2. I would try and move it all around, except the image is protected and I can't fix the template that uses it on 2000 images (at least) by myself either. Thank you very much.
 * Thanks a bundle, Steve. Trig - 11:20, August 11, 2019 (EDT)

Part three revenge of the sith, I suppose. Could you please move File:NSMB Green Koopa Troopa Artwork.png to [[:File:NSMB Green Koopa Troopa Artwork? This will help distinguish it from the other similar file that I moved, and will be the most specific it can be. Thank you very much. Trig - 23:08, August 15, 2019 (EDT)

I really do hate being a bother, but could you please move File:Star.png to Star.png in accordance to capitalization policy? I don't think the talk page needs to stay as it isn't really applicable anymore. Trig - 14:44, August 17, 2019 (EDT)

Dr. Mario series stages
I'd like to clarify something about the policy that all level articles are to be created: does this include the individual stages in Dr. Mario: Miracle Cure and Dr. Mario World as well? The reason I ask is because had the honors of bringing it up on my talk page, and I'm not exactly sure if what he's saying is correct. 12:21, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * JC is correct. -- 12:23, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * Then is it okay to create a proposal regarding this matter? 12:38, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * Sure -- 13:14, July 21, 2019 (EDT)

Suggestion
Do you think we should always capitalize the first word in our reason and specifics sections in our request boxes? Lord Falafel (talk) 19:57, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * What request boxes?  21:20, July 21, 2019 (EDT)

Ones that begin with "it has been requested that" Lord Falafel (talk) 21:24, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah capitalize first word. 21:33, July 21, 2019 (EDT)

Yet another text replacement
Hi, would you mind replacing the following: Thanks! 02:16, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
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Request
Can you run your bots on to replace  with A group of Fly Guy Rs, since the page has been merged? -- 09:11, August 14, 2019 (EDT)

Question
Should unreleased games be on the list of games by genre? Lord Falafel (talk) 20:27, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
 * No. -- 20:34, August 20, 2019 (EDT)

Another question
Should we forbid commas before the word and? Lord Falafel (talk) 16:48, September 7, 2019 (EDT)
 * Nah. Do no comma if two things (he is cool and nice) and yes comma if three things (he is cool, nice, and epic). -- 16:51, September 7, 2019 (EDT)

Exclude
Hi. I've been thinking and I think it's unnecessary to state what date we retrieved a reference. It doesn't really matter, right? All that matters is we have proof that something is so because we have a source to back it up. Retrieved dates just extend the number of bytes in an invalid way and it's not something a lot of people want to see. Do you think we should exclude retrieved references bytes? Lord Falafel (talk) 10:55, September 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * The "date retrieved" is there in case there are edits to the source later, or in case the source is taken down. Adding the date retrieved makes it easier to restore the sources via the Internet Archive, rather than having to fish through page histories to see which edit added the source. - 11:00, September 9, 2019 (EDT)

User page
Hello. I Cant create my user page. But the premissions are set to everyone. How do i create it now? PoochyFan (talk) 13:11, September 15, 2019 (EDT)


 * Try reading this. -- 13:13, September 15, 2019 (EDT)
 * Okay. Thank you! PoochyFan (talk) 01:58, September 16, 2019 (EDT)

Remove
Do you think we should remove the PC section from the list of games and the list of games by genre? Their games are on other platforms. PC is just another term for personal computer and as far as our coverage goes, those games were released on the Macintosh, Windows and MS-DOS computers and we have all those versions on the list of games. So, the PC section just has duplicate information that is taking up space. What do you think we should do? Lord Falafel (talk) 13:39, September 23, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yes, you can remove PC. Most of the platforms in the Other section are personal computers so it doesn't really make sense to have it. -- 14:02, September 23, 2019 (EDT)

Another references page
Should someone create a page called list of Mario references in the Mario franchise? Lord Falafel (talk) 12:56, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * Since game pages have references to other games and references in later games sections, that would be redundant. -- 13:11, September 24, 2019 (EDT)

Image files
Should we forbid SVG files? Lord Falafel (talk) 13:46, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * No. -- 13:52, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * We use them all the time, mostly for stuff like logos. Mario Kart 8 has a lot of them. Trig - 14:01, September 26, 2019 (EDT)

But it says they're not fully supported by the site. Lord Falafel (talk) 14:04, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * It's not hard to fix them 14:05, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
 * Plus "not fully supported" =/= "should be completely banned". It's extremely silly to just ban stuff at the first sign of minor inconvenience. -- 17:06, September 26, 2019 (EDT)

Beans
Hi, since both of my proposals on splitting the Beans in the Mario & Luigi series were lambasted by several users, I'd like to get your input before proposing anything else on the matter. This is the list of beans from each game:
 * Superstar Saga:
 * Chuckle Bean
 * Hee Bean
 * Hoo Bean
 * Woo Bean
 * Partners in Time:
 * Just a regular Bean
 * Bowser's Inside Story, Dream Team, Paper Jam, Minion Quest, and Bowser Jr.'s Journey:
 * Bros. Bean
 * Bros. Bean DX
 * Defense Bean
 * Defense Bean DX
 * Flying EXP Bean S
 * Flying EXP Bean M
 * Flying EXP Bean L
 * Flying EXP Bean DX
 * Heart Bean
 * Heart Bean DX
 * Melee EXP Bean S
 * Melee EXP Bean M
 * Melee EXP Bean L
 * Melee EXP Bean DX
 * Power Bean
 * Power Bean DX
 * Ranged EXP Bean S
 * Ranged EXP Bean M
 * Ranged EXP Bean L
 * Ranged EXP Bean DX
 * Speed Bean
 * Speed Bean DX
 * Spirit Bean
 * Stache Bean
 * Stache Bean DX
 * Super EXP Bean S
 * Super EXP Bean M
 * Super EXP Bean L
 * Super EXP Bean DX

Superstar Sagas beans are for making coffee blends, Partners in Times beans are for trading with Fawful, and the beans in Bowser's Inside Story, Dream Team, Paper Jam, Minion Quest, and Bowser Jr.'s Journey are for increasing certain stats. I'd like to get your input here: what should be split out and what shouldn't? 14:52, September 29, 2019 (EDT)
 * You know my general posture is to give an article to things with a unique name, but in a case like this it's probably more useful to the reader to have everything in one place than have a lot of very small articles. I defer to the proposal outcomes. Might as well create redirects for those red links. -- 16:12, September 29, 2019 (EDT)


 * I don't think what occurred with your proposals was something that could be called lambasting - it seemed more like your proposals needed a bit more consideration with regards to various aspects of the potential split prior to actually putting the vote into effect. -- 19:12, September 29, 2019 (EDT)
 * @Lord Grammaticus: That's why I would consider them "lambasted"; they were ridiculed for being too broad and/or overly vague. 15:46, September 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * ...criticism isn't ridicule. -- 17:27, September 30, 2019 (EDT)

@Porplemontage: Sorry to bring this to your attention so late, but I think you might also want to comment on how this matter relates to this proposal (specifically the comments section), something I forgot to bring up previously. Cheers. 18:49, October 1, 2019 (EDT)

Code overwrite
Do you think we should have sandboxes automatically show up alongside talk, contributions and uploads when a user is brought to another user's page after they selected their name? I think it'd be very helpful and so much easier for users to be aware of what everyone is working on. Because if people are left in the dark about that, they won't know what pages have been created. Or what pages are being created. As a bonus, if the curious user wants to help contribute to the new page if it's a game, movie, show, book, anything else and they don't choose to turn on the edit notification bell, they can look at the edit history of the sandbox or sandboxes they look at and it will be right there to select. What do you think we should do? Lord Falafel (talk) 21:12, September 30, 2019 (EDT)


 * Speaking entirely for myself, but: Users can already link their sandboxes on their userpage, should they so choose, and anyone curious about the edit history can use the appropriate history tab on the subpage, regardless of if they watch the page or not. Automating the appearances of personal userpages might have a nonzero chance of being harmful, since it comes off as trying to force user engagement and interest where such may not always exist (and trying to automate it all but defeats the purpose). At best, it doesn't really add anything much, and reads more like a solution looking for a problem. -- 21:20, September 30, 2019 (EDT)

What did you do? Lord Falafel (talk) 16:42, October 1, 2019 (EDT)

Template removal
Should we disable the template for Wikipedia pages when writing them down like this but not like this  and only having that latter one available to be taken to a Wikipedia page when clicked? Lord Falafel (talk) 18:11, October 15, 2019 (EDT)
 * No, both are acceptable. -- 18:13, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

Another question. I tried adding links to YouTube videos with Mario references in them on the page called list of Mario references on the internet and it said there were too many. Did we run out of space for bytes? I didn't think that was possible. Should we make a separate page called list of Mario references on YouTube? Lord Falafel (talk) 18:16, October 15, 2019 (EDT)
 * There shouldn't be any limit. -- 18:19, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

No, but there is. Believe me. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:21, October 15, 2019 (EDT)
 * (list in question). There are 49 references on this page. COuld it be that the video is already used as a reference? Trig - 18:22, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

No. It told me there were too many. Lord Falafel (talk) 18:29, October 15, 2019 (EDT)

Automatic editing
Do you think we should rewrite the wiki's code a bit for image file pages, so that an edit can automatically be done to say what page or pages use the image? And not just when the image is added to a page but also reveal all edits that have been done to add an image to a page? Just a thought, because there are so many images on this wiki and not all of the pages for the images say what pages are using the images. People might've forgotten to do that, so I thought having it automatically say what page is using the image would be great. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Lord Falafel (talk) 19:29, October 19, 2019 (EDT)