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Determine how to handle unused appearances
Many times, a subject appears only in the files of a game, as unused content. Should this kind of appearance be covered in an article's history section, be kept in the trivia section, or just stay in the game's pre-release and unused content section? If it is included in an article's history section, it doesn't have to have its own subsection, it can be covered in an "other appearances" section. In a game appearances list, I do think unused appearances should not be included.

Proposer: Deadline: August 26, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Include in the history section in "Other appearances"

 * 1) I don't think appearances as unused content are major enough to have a whole subsection.
 * 2) Sounds like the best way to go. Their appearance in the game code is still more noteworthy than a random point in the trivia section, but there isn't a whole lot of info available to necessitate its own subsection. Other appearances will cut it just fine.
 * 3) Per YFJ.
 * 4) Agreed.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) - Per all.
 * 8) Even though they didn't make it to the game, it should still be covered on those individual subjects' pages. Say, for example, Waluigi was originally planned to appear as a playable character in 3D World but only his model was left in the game. If it wasn't on his page, you'd have no way of knowing unless you went to 3D World's pre-release section/page specifically. I'm not a fan of bogging down trivia with all these appearances, but full sections for a game they never actually appeared in seems a bit overblown. This seems the most logical.
 * 9) Per all.
 * 10) Per all.
 * 11) Per all.
 * 12) Per all. Could do this sort of thing with minor cameos too.
 * 13) Per all for the majority of cases, but I'd like to note I think we should make special case-by-case exceptions where mentioning something in the main part of the History section would make more sense. I can't recall any specific examples off the top of my head, but I'm talking about things like, say, if an enemy type was cut from Paper Mario and then added in Thousand-Year Door, it might flow better to mention that fact in the Paper Mario series section rather than other appearances. Or if something was cut from a game and then implemented in a remake or release, that fact should just be mentioned in the section for that game.

Comments
On a similar note, if we're going to be moving "actual" (so-to-speak) appearances of subjects to an other appearances section, can we move sections that consist of "this subject doesn't appear in this game but something similar does" to other appearances or remove them entirely? It's always bothered me looking over history sections and seeing sections for games those subjects never appeared in just because of the appearance of a subspecies or similar concept, i.e. Dry Bones in 3D World and Odyssey. -- 13:43, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I agree. It's not an actual appearance, and should stay in the variant's article. It might be able to be moved to "Other appearances", but I'm not sure. I'm thinking we should remove them entirely. 13:58, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
 * I think at the very least the debuts of those variants could potentially stay, but I don't think we'd need to mention every time that happens. So for example, going back to Dry Bones, the debut of Parabones in 3D World could be mentioned in other appearances, but we wouldn't need to mention Odyssey. -- 15:03, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
 * Depends on how big the article is. If the article is huge, this could be included within its own section in History. If it's not too big, Trivia is probably the best place, and if its really small, could just be in the main article (like with Dark Paratroopas in the Paper Mario series). Mario Sakuraba (talk) 20:40, August 20, 2019 (UK Time)

@Mario Sakuraba I think minor cameos should be included as their own subsections as long as they still remain in the Mario series. For example, a Koopa Shell making a small appearance in Kirby Super Star would go in other appearances, but Yoshi in SM64 would get its own section. 17:10, August 20, 2019 (EDT)

I also think appearances in board games, card games, etc. based on the Mario series should go in other appearances. 17:11, August 20, 2019 (EDT)