Talk:Buzzy Beetle

Where does it say that they're Koopas? - Yoshi Master

Koopa or beetle?
I'm Confused if they're either koopas or beetles?--Fg 19:46, 26 January 2007 (EST)


 * They are Buzzy Beetles. Spinies are Koopas who are also related to Buzzy Beetles. Spinies are like a Buzzy Beetle-Koopa hybird. But Buzzy Beetles themselves are just Buzzy Beetles (not Koopas). -- Son of Suns


 * Same with Spike-tops.

But they are not beetles, they are turtles, whilst the Koopas are tortoises.Koopaman (I spelled it without a capital ``M`` this time!!!!)

I was just about to ask the same thing. I remember seeing in a manual for a Mario game that they are "big freakin bugs with shells made of diamond". Plus their name is "BUZZY BEETLES".

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I deleted the Super Princess Peach section, as it had nothing to do with Buzzy Beetles-only spike tops. If anyone objects, heres what the section said:

"Spike Tops appear in Super Princess Peach, where they are, for some reason, called "Mecha-Spike Tops". The game subsequently also features Mad Mecha-Spike Tops, which are influenced by the Rage Vibe."

GreenKoopa-Don&#39;t jump on mee! 16:40, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Huh?
Dont Buzzy beetles and paratroopas appear in super mario 3d land?

No. -- L    151   11:28, 31 March 2013 (EDT)

“that more recent games even confirm that Buzzy Beetles are indeed a type of Koopa“
I did a quick Ctrl+f on the official bios:

NSMBW: “These blue-shelled beetles are tough enemies to crack”

SMM: "Koopas aren't the only shell game in town—you can also hop on a Buzzy Beetle to surf in style!”

SSB4: “Mario's fireballs have no effect on these guys, much to the envy of their Koopa buddies.”

Where is it confirmed that they’re koopas? Somethingone (talk) 06:45, November 15, 2021 (EST)
 * Brawl trophy. Also several Japanese bios. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:37, November 15, 2021 (EST)
 * Can you list some of these "japanese bios"? Somethingone (talk) 13:39, November 15, 2021 (EST)
 * I can't type Japanese on this keyboard. Regardless, they are consistently listed as "Kame-zoku" (Turtle tribe, ie Koopa). The "Koopa" things from the bios you were showing were clearly from unenviable people who think "Koopa" means "Troopa." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:46, November 15, 2021 (EST)
 * Thanks Doc Somethingone (talk) 13:48, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Zelda reference
So, there's an enemy that originates from The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past that would appear to be a reference to Buzzy Beetle. Check out this link - the relevant portion has a screenshot regarding "Terrorpins", sourced from page 141 of (first part of) the Shogakukan Guide. It got rearranged in that link somehow, but in the actual guide, it's accompanied with the screenshot of the Chain Chomp above and a fire bar below - overt Mario references, as it mentions. And indeed, the caption does in fact highlight this reference, but the translator must not have understood the reference to Mario enemies, because it was mistakenly taken to be the literal onomatopoeia. What it actually says is:「ノコノコでも、パタパタでもなくてパメット. 」(That's neither a Nokonoko nor a Patapata, but a Pamet.) It other words, it states that it's not a Koopa Troopa or a Koopa Paratroopa, but stops short of outright calling it a Buzzy Beetle. Some kind of allusion was deliberate. Now, Japanese A Link to the Past was doing this thing where a few alternate names were being used for Mario creatures (e.g. Chain Chomp was called Kelvin - which didn't stick around - and fire bar was called Guru Guru Bar - which did), so that makes it hard to tell if these were literally supposed to be Zelda-ified Buzzy Beetles under a different name, or if they were variants, or some other type of relative. Also note, Zelda Spinies, which first appear in Link's Awakening, have similar "flippable" behavior. So that begs the question, should it have its own article like the other Mario elements in Zelda, or could this be safely covered in this article? LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:42, July 21, 2023 (EDT)
 * I always thought Turtles/Shell Spinner/Terrorpin was based on Buzzy from the name. Since they keep a distinct design well into later games, I think it should stay as a separate entity until further notice. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:14, July 21, 2023 (EDT)
 * Oh, something that may be of interest that I nearly forgot about: page 29 of the A Link to the Past/Four Swords Shogakukan guide shows that the Zelda「ケルビン」(Kelvin) name had been fully replaced with the Mario-recognizable「ワンワン」(Wanwan). I'm not sure why they never changed「ぐるぐるバー」(Guru Guru Bar) on page 31 - maybe only Chain Chomp had focus for better consistency with Four Swords - but considering that the name of「パメット」(Pamet) is unchanged on page 25, I'm inclined to agree with taking Terrorpin as separate from the original Buzzy Beetle. It's close enough to deem it a variant or relative, though. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:33, July 22, 2023 (EDT)