MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Separate Wii U audio files from the ones on the GBA (Discuss) Passed.
 * Separate the Nintendo eShop paragraph from the 3DS and Wii U pages (Discuss) Passed.
 * Separate the Mario Bros. stage from the Smash Bros. stage of the same name (Discuss) Passed.
 * Merge Junior (II) to Donkey Kong Jr. Math. (Discuss) Passed.
 * Split Bouncing Note from Music Park. (Discuss) Deadline: April 22, 2015, 23:59 GMT Extended: April 29, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Fresh Pasta Bunch with Fresh Pasta. (Discuss) Deadline: April 30, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Blue Lava Bubble to Ember. (Discuss) Deadline: April 30, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Egg Missile with Egg Bomb. (Discuss) Deadline: April 23, 2015, 23:59 GMT. Extended: April 30, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Determine if Wanda is a or Sprixie. (Discuss) Deadline: May 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Piranhacus Giganticus with Big Piranha Plant. (Discuss) Deadline: May 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Boss Bass Super Mario 64 DS info over to Bubba's page or Merge the articles. (Discuss) Deadline: May 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Fire Chomp Super Mario 64 DS info over to Kuromame page or Merge the articles. (Discuss) Deadline: May 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT
 * Merge Spiny Fish with Spiny Cheep Cheep. (Discuss) Deadline: May 5, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Use "wide image" templates for level maps and the like
In pages about levels or worlds such as this, this and this, since the images showing the maps are wide, they are displayed in a very small size, making them hard to see clearly unless you click the image.

Well, Wikipedia has a template, which can be useful for cases like these. We could use both the 100% wide and 45% (or another size) wide variations, depending on the case.

Proposer: Deadline: April 25, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) My proposal.
 * 2) Per Mr. Ice Bro.
 * 3) - Per proposal: scrollboxes for images can be pretty handy.
 * 4) I love this idea! It makes it so one does not have to click on an image to enlarge it; plus, you get a clearer image.
 * 5) A great idea indeed! I'll approve this proposal with a per all!

Create Template:Organzation-infobox
I've noticed that pages on organizations or groups either don't use infoboxes, or use Template:species-infobox (Snowmad and Tiki Tak Tribe were the pages I first noticed this on), listing species employed by the organization as sub-species, which looks...odd. Besides, we have infoboxes for other things, like locations, organizations aren't any less important. The last proposal was a vote short of passing, so I'm reposting this to get more attention.

Proposer: Deadline: May 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.

Comments
For reference, the parameters (aside from the obvious ones included in every infobox) would be: Binarystep (talk) 22:08, 24 April 2015 (EDT)
 * leader (the character in charge of the organization)
 * member_species (species frequently employed by the organization)
 * members (notable members)

Create Template:Pmitembox
I've noticed we're using Template:Recipe-Infobox for Paper Mario series items, which leads to saying things like that Repel Gel or Yellow Berries are "Made by Tayce T.", which looks weird. Besides, a Paper Mario item infobox would give us a convenient place to list the non-HP/FP-related effects of some items, maybe even what enemies drop them, etc.

Proposer: Deadline: May 2, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.

Removals
None at the moment.

Merge post-Special Zone enemies or Split Goomba (SMW:SMA2) and Pokey (SMW:SMA2)
It seems a little incongruous that the Super Mario World enemy skins are split but the Super Mario Advance 2-exclusive ones are not. At the same time, besides the alternate names in the SNES version, there isn't any real sign to consider these different enemies. I think the case for merging is stronger, but I'll leave the option to instead split the rest of them.

Proposer: Deadline: April 24, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Merge post-Special Zone enemies to original enemy articles

 * 1) It was always an aesthetic difference to begin with, and merging eliminates at least one conjectural-titled article.
 * 2) It's true that some sources individualize them, namely the SMW credits and the Mario Mania guide, but these are nothing more than reskins. There are absolutely no differences between them besides the way they look. Also, if them being recognized as individual enemies is what we use as our justification, that'd be quite a slippery slope to follow, considering other enemies that are also individually recognized (case in point, the Green/Red Koopas).
 * 3) I'm going to approve this one because they are part of the original enemies so, per all!
 * 4) I was actually planning on proposing this a while ago, but never got around to it. Per all.
 * 5) Per all.

Comments
Exactly how many articles are being affected here? Merging a lot of uniquely-titled and different-looking things could potentially lose us search traffic... And please provide links, instead of expecting everyone to run around searching for the relevant pages and sections themselves: it's literally part of Rule 1 at the top of the page. -
 * I don't think the search traffic argument holds water in this case. People aren't googling en-masse for obscure enemies sprite-swaps featured in one game, and if they do, they're very likely to have heard of the wiki through other means. --Glowsquid (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
 * @Time Turner - Mario Mania is kind of vague about it, although it does imply that a bit with the "A New Cast" heading at the end.
 * @Walkazo - If we go with the first option, the following articles are affected: Jumping Pumpkin Plant, Pidgit Bill, Mask Koopa, and Para Mask Koopa (the latter being the conjectural one I mentioned). If we go with the second option, it will keep these pages split and also add the enemies changed in the Game Boy Advance port - the sunglasses "Goomba" (as it was called) and its derivatives, and the stone-like Pokey. The third option, which I've mistakenly left out before, just keeps everything the way it is. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:02, 17 April 2015 (EDT)

Staying neutral for now... On one hand, they look different and are officially named. On the other hand, the guide that named them is the same guide that acted like every behavior of Chargin' Chuck was its own species. If these are going to be merged, shouldn't the different types of Boo Buddies (except Block, as it does something other than move differently) be merged as well? Binarystep (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
 * Chargin' Chucks and Boo Buddies could also probably be addressed at some point as they might be considered another example of incongruity, but this proposal is specifically about the enemies whose graphics change by completing the Funky course, not including ones given separate identification in guide material. It's not quite the same thing, especially since Chargin' Chucks and Boo Buddies have different interactions with the player. LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:02, 18 April 2015 (EDT)

Stop Listing Sub-Species on Generic Real-World Species Pages
I've noticed that a lot of species pages (like Cooligan or Snaps to give two examples) are listed as "sub-species" of generic real-world species (e.g. Bee, Crab, Penguin), instead of being labeled independent species. At first, this makes sense, as they're clearly based on said species, but if you consider that we don't call Koopas a sub-species of Turtle or Goombas a sub-species of Mushroom, it starts to look inconsistent. I've also noticed the reverse happening, where real-world species articles have long sub-species sections consisting of every species that resembles it, even though that is literally not what "sub-species"/"species origin" means at all. While I'm not saying we should delete all real-world species pages (though the ones that consist of "background thing what looks like species" should probably be removed), I don't think we should list species from the games as being directly related to them, as there's a difference between a real-life inspiration and an in-universe relation.

tl;dr not everything has to be a subspecies of something, infoboxes don't have a minimum length.

Proposer: Deadline: April 26, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per my proposal.
 * 2) Per Binary.
 * 3) Per both on this case!
 * 4) per
 * 5) Per Binarystep.

Comments
Note that real-world species could still have "Related Species" sections, and list species based on them there. Binarystep (talk) 20:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.