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Korean romanization
These pages have Korean but no romanizations. So if you are good at romanization, can you add them?

Another gossip-loving Toad (talk) 04:36, 5 August 2015 (EDT)


 * I can. I'll add them soon. -odo2718 (對話) 05:13, 5 August 2015 (EDT)

Some questions about romanizations
1. When a syllable ending with ㄹ is followed by one starting with ㄹ, some editors have the two l's combined into a single l, like the following ones. Is this correct? (In addition to the table above, 올림픽 is often romanized as Olimpik.)

2. In some pages, ㅈ is romanized as z. Is that correct?

3. According to RR, ㅡ should be romanized as eu, but in some pages it is either omitted or romanized as u. Is that correct?

4. In some pages, ㅜ is romanized as oo. Is that correct?

5. Can ㅍ be romanized as f?

6. Some of the initial letters have a one letter romanization in RR, but some editors append "h" to that letter, like ㅅ = sh. Is this right?

7. Here are some more romanizations that I am not able to verify, as I don't know hangul well. Can you verify them?

It's because I added some romajis to these Korean words. Here are the reasons that I'm thinking:

1. The letter "l" already has "l" sound so I think that it DOES NOT have to be added twice. (e.g. 멜론 = Melon (O), Mellon (X))

2. Not so sure why (I added them though) but I deem that z sound more fits than j sound in certain ways. (Most Korean people, incluring me, pronounce z sound as j sound though)

3. I sometimes forget to add "eu" sound when I add "ㅡ" sound. For words that does not have syllables I sometimes omit "eu" because the letter and the word alone can produce that sound anyway. But for some romajis, someone other than me did it.

4. I agree that it should be "u" sound. Someone other than me did most of it.

5. While it is probably incorrect, I added "f" sound as ㅍ sound for some words because we are now able to pronounce it.

6. For "S" sounds, I thought "Sh" sounds are closer to what we pronounce "s" sounds, and some romanizations have "sh" instead of "s" itself.

7. Some are correct and some are not. Maybe I should correct them some time..

In conclusion, it depends on how editors consider about romajis in their ways so you probably don't have to worry about that much. I think that it will sound in a same way too. CSR 12:12, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

wikipedia:Revised Romanization of Korean. I just followed this rule. There is no 'Sh' in RR. -odo2718 (對話) 19:45, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

Whoa, I didn't notice that two people wrote something in this page... Let me read them again... -odo2718 (對話) 19:47, 6 August 2015 (EDT)

I have same opinion about some question, but have different about others.

1. -ㄹㄹ- is considered to have two consonants. Between two ㄹ's there is a syllable boundary. It should be 'll' rather than 'l'.

2. Some people use 'z' for ㅈ, but in Korean language there is an absence of 'z'-like sound (while it is in Japanese, like あおぞら aozora). I have never heard that Korean people pronounce 'z' sound when speaking Korean though some wrote 'z' for ㅈ.

3. Yeah, 스타 is pronounced sometimes as 'sta'. But in Japanese romanization, silent sound is written, like がくせい gakusei though Japanese say as 'gaksei' or 'gaksē'. I apply this rule(?) in Korean romanization. In fact, I didn't find the rule about omitting letter(s) matching silent sound in former and present romanizations.
 * If Someone wrote ㅡ as 'u', I don't care anymore. There is few language that classify 'u' and Korean 'eu'.

4. Same as CSR

5. Some say 'file' as pa.il, some say fa.il. F in Korean is just an allophone of p. (almost same relation of 'ㅡ and ㅜ') By this reason I prefer p.

6. Same as CSR. In South Korean variant of Mccune–Reischauer 시 is written as 'shi'. I think 'shi' is similar to 시 than 'si'. I don't care anymore.

7. Some will be corrected. -odo2718 (對話) 20:32, 6 August 2015 (EDT)


 * Though I said I don't care, I will strongly use RR for new entry (even the word/phrase includes '시' or something). What I'll consider about is that which is better: transliteration and transcription. (I have used transcription...) -odo2718 (對話) 01:09, 7 August 2015 (EDT)