MarioWiki:Proposals

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Implement "See also" sections in Mario Party minigame and WarioWare microgame articles for related mini/microgames
Since there are so many minigames/microgames, I believe that people who look through them often end up finding one that is similar to what they are looking for but it's not, or they find of and it reminds them of something similar and want to find it. (This happens to me at least.)

I think it would be interesting that to have a "See also" section that we can use to link to mini/microgames that are remarkably similar in concept or theme. For example:
 * Flash Forward: See also Slaparazzi
 * Revolving Fire: See also Hazard Hold
 * Dry Eye: See also Laser Vision
 * Nighttime Allergies: See also Snivel Disobedience and Allergy Attack
 * Hectic Highway: See also Outta My Way and Racing 112
 * Oh, the Irony: See also The Irony
 * Classic Clash I: See also Classic Clash II and Classic Clash III
 * Zero to Hero: See also Bam-Fu and Log Chop
 * Noodle Cup: See also Circuit Path, maybe?
 * Balancing Act: See also Broom Shtick, maybe?

Just to make it clear, we wouldn't do that for microgames that simply have similar gameplay if it's not remarkable, or that simply have a similar character show up as some sort of easter egg (this is more fitting for trivia anyway).

Anyway, having this section would also make it needless to mention the similarities between mini/microgames elsewhere, like in the introduction paragraph or in a trivia section, which is often inconsistent as it is now.

Proposer: Deadline: August 28, 2018, at 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) My proposal, so yeah.
 * 2) Per proposal.

Comments
Wouldn't it be better if you also proposed that we did this for Mario Party series minigames as well? 23:59, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Oh, right. I didn't think about that. 00:14, 21 August 2018 (EDT)

I don't really think this needs a proposal. That's pretty much why we include "See also" sections in the first place, to direct readers to other similar subjects. 00:12, 21 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Yeah, but I thought it was just better to see if there were other opinions about it rather than just start mass editing, doing things "my way" without getting any sort of approval. 00:17, 21 August 2018 (EDT)
 * In certain cases (Slaparazzi, for example), it already says it's similar to a previous game. 00:19, 21 August 2018 (EDT)
 * That's right, but it's also about how they are handled. Like, as I said on the last paragraph of the proposal, some articles mention similarities in the introduction paragraph, others in trivia, others in gameplay sections, and others don't mention similar games at all. It's kind of messy. 00:24, 21 August 2018 (EDT)

Stop listing reused artwork as a reference to an older game
Right now, whenever a piece of character artwork is remade/reused, it's considered a reference in the references section. But I say... why? It's a practice Nintendo's been doing for years, and the poses are always very generic. I don't think anyone at Nintendo says "Hey, remember that Mario Party game from 10 years ago? Let's reference it by reusing Bowser's character artwork!". Therefore, I propose we remove any mention of character artwork remakes from the reference sections. (For example, File:WarioGoodQual.PNG vs. File:Wario MP100.png)

Proposer: Deadline: August 29, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) - Per proposal and comments.
 * 3) Per proposal.
 * 4) Per proposal.
 * 5) Reusing artwork isn't Nintendo referencing the source game, it's them saving money.  The artwork rarely even appears in the games!  That said, per proposal.
 * 6) Per all; this has been one thing that has really been a concern for me for years, but not to the magnitude that it is now.

Oppose

 * 1) I liked this proposal better before the change. See my comment below. Furthermore, the change made to the proposal text is waaaaaaay too subtle, to the point that it has the potential to confuse voters; YFJ's vote looks like it was meant for the original proposal.
 * 2) Per 7feetunder, and Mario jc in the comments.

Comments
I'd per support, but that last line gets me. Why not just make it so only actually reused art counts as a reference? 17:57, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 * The last line refers to "references" such as this: "Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition: Artwork of Luigi and Yoshi from this game are reused on one of the smaller banners." What exactly do you dislike about it? -- 19:15, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 * What I meant was I agree with the whole "this artwork isn't exactly the same as a previous one, so it's not a reference" thing. But why would it be a stretch to say that reusing earlier game artwork in game or for promotional material (the Mario Party and Mario Kart series reuses art on occasion) is a reference? 19:18, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Ah, I see. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. I'll change the proposal. -- 19:37, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Alright, looks good. 19:40, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I disagree entirely. I preferred the original proposal idea and it should still be an option. I completely fail to see how remaking artwork from a previous game is somehow less of a reference than simply reusing it, especially since reusing artwork isn't really a reference to begin with, it's a cost-cutting measure. They don't reuse artwork to reference previous games, they do it because it's less expensive and time-consuming than making new art for every single entry in a franchise that sees the release of such a large number of games. Even setting aside whether or not artwork reuse qualifies as a reference, I don't get how simply remastering the artwork (as shown in the above example) magically makes it completely unrelated. 00:59, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I agree. If anything the remastering is more of a reference than reusing. 02:28, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Would this extend to reusing sound effects and voice clips as well? 02:28, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

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