User talk:Henry Tucayo Clay

Welcome to my page! --http://themushroomkingdom.net/images/ani/ani_all2mariopicksmall.gif http://themushroomkingdom.net/images/ani/ani_smwberrypink.gif TUCAYO http://themushroomkingdom.net/images/ani/ani_mk64_lakitu.gif http://themushroomkingdom.net/images/ani/ani_all2spark.gif 18:15, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Please refrain from posting lots of images. I used to answer messages on others' talk pages but I found out it makes following/referencing past conversations more trouble than it should be, so I will answer all messages here. Thanks.

Bundle Stuff
Hey Tucayo, I have a question, when a character is announced to appear in an upcoming game, why do we wait till it's released before we add it. What would be the difference between adding it now or when it's released. 00:32, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * What specifically are you talking about? -- 19:50, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * An example is like when y'know how when Paper Jam was nearly released some users put down Starlow's latest appearance as that game, why do we just wait till the game is realeased before changing the latest appearance. 19:54, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Oh, OK. We wait because technically nothing is definitive until the game is actually released. -- 20:00, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Help:Signature
Thanks for updating the signature pages, while you're at it could you maybe change the colours on the "Usage" table in the page? It's hard on the eyes and almost impossible to read with white text on a yellow background. 20:02, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Sure thing. -- 20:05, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Mario Party 2
In light of your recent proposal, what are you planning to do with the minigames from Mario Party 2, which includes TOAD in the Box, TOAD Bandstand, BOB-OMB Barrage, Hot BOB-OMB, and BOWSER's Big Blast? I'm just curious as to what you're planning.
 * I would like to move them as well, to be honest. I don't have MP2 so I can't see the in-game context of those being stylized like that or if it's just meaningless as with the boards in my proposal. If it's just random stylization, then I would be very inclined to move them. -- 21:32, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Judging by this video, the minigames use the stylized titles when played as normal and when the minigame is selected from the menu (and presumably when it shows up in other modes, such as Mini-Game Coaster and Mini-Game Battle). The Prima guide also uses the stylized names, which you can deem as important as you need it to be. I also agree with you on the random stylization: it kinda seems like they're capitalizing the names of enemies and characters, but other minigames like Shy Guy Says or Bowser Slots don't follow the same rule. One thing I didn't notice until after I linked to it: Hot Bob-omb didn't actually get moved alongside the other minigames, which is a big oversight that you could bring up in a proposal.
 * It's so inconsistent I would like to move them all to regular capitalization, but I don't know if I can do that based on my proposal or if some more consensus would be needed. I think the reason Hot Bob-omb is there is because it was written like that in MP1, which is still against our policy since we should use the most recent name and that would be Hot BOB-OMB. It's funny because in that article, the capitalization on MP2 is just disregarded as a stylization and it takes Hot Bob-omb as the actual name. -- 21:58, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Personally, while the circumstances are slightly different (board vs. minigame, fully stylized vs. partially stylized), I wouldn't disagree with you if you wanted to use the former proposal as justification.
 * I'll check with the admin team to see if I can go ahead and move them. -- 22:12, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

Protecting Mario Party (series)
Should Mario Party (series) be protected? So far, three anons have made the same false info edit. (And now that I think about it, I guess it was unnecessary for me to block them since you can just protect the page anyway...)
 * I'm not trying to sound rude here but you're a Patroller, can't you protect it yourself? 04:23, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Only sysops can do that.
 * That IP is clearly Fidel. CrashBash (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Yeah, protection would be best. The block is good since they were doing ban-worthy stuff anyway. -- 15:40, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Vandal warnings
I issued a warning to because they blanked a page and then restored it; I couldn't tell if it was trolling or just done as a one-time joke but went with the latter (benefit of doubt). I know that particular user was blocked as a sockpuppet but in that type of case (quick vandalism then revert) are you just supposed to leave them to get blocked? -- 17:27, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Yes 17:29, 20 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I'd appreciate if you'd let admins answer questions about admin stuff. Yes, users who join just to vandalize are always to be immediately blocked. -- 21:13, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

Proposal
Hey Tucayo. I want to have a proposal but it's for two pages, what do I do instead of just having the same proposal on two pages. 23:01, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Have it on Proposals as one proposal, as long as the changes to both pages are of the same nature. -- 23:15, 22 June 2016 (EDT)
 * On an unlikely note, what would happen if the proposal was a tie like there were 7 supporters and 7 opposers. 18:59, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
 * It gets extended for a week. It can be extended up to three times before it's declared as a tie. -- 19:07, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Hey Tucayo many people say my proposal isn't very thought out, how can I make my future ones better. 20:30, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * There's no simple guide to make good proposals. First off, it's indeed vague. You need to explain in more detail why the change is better. You also need to cover all possible consequences of the proposal, such as inconsistency issues. Take a look at articles that have a similar situation and then see if the change makes sense. -- 21:39, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Sockpuppet
I spotted a sockpuppet of many different accounts:. There have been many KevinSquidys before so could you please check his/her IP. 22:45, 24 June 2016 (EDT)

Image
Hey Tucayo is it okay if I upload a new version of File:Gnaw1.jpg I am 98% certain that mine is better. 00:32, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I assume you mean File:Gnaw1.JPG? Please use your better judgement. That image has very poor quality, so it can be definitely improved. -- 00:37, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Though mine is actually png so should I just upload it separately? 00:39, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Yes. -- 00:39, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * The image that uploaded is bigger and a little bit better, but has a factor of blurriness to it. File:Gnaw.png A better version can still be uploaded. I am almost never fond of using YouTube or similar as a source. Pretty sure it should be tagged with . -- 17:04, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * How's this screenshot took? -- 18:49, 27 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Userpedia:File:MvsFF 2 07 11.png It's better but not entirely the best replacement we can do. There's significantly less blur to that image but still a little bit though and there is some jaggedness to it. It's best to be retaken in the latest version of Dolphin (5.0 was just released a few days ago). I've been experimenting with graphical settings and my sandbox screenshot page could use some updates to get even better screenshots than ever before. Where did get that image? Also, what is the purpose of Userpedia? -- 00:34, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Never mind. I went to GameFAQs and downloaded a "powersave" and then converted it with sq-dps (GBATemp) to be readable by either my Wii or Wii emulator. Problem solved. -- 01:13, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I think Edo took it himself but I don't know the specifics. Userpedia is a wiki for user fiction and other types of works that wouldn't fit in the MarioWiki. -- 21:39, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

The 'Shroom
Hi Tucayo, I sent an application for The 'Shroom, did you have received it? I think I forgot to mention that I would like a confirmation in my message. -- 22:00, 29 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I did get it, thanks. I'm sorry, I usually confirm receipt on every message but I was on a rush and I forgot. Your application is now being reviewed. -- 22:07, 29 June 2016 (EDT)

Languages
Hello how many different languages can a user view this wiki in because I do know how to speak two languages (Macedonian and Chinese). 16:50, 3 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. The wiki and the content can just be seen in English. We have a German and an Italian affiliate (links found on sidebar). --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Protect or Block
Hi, can you please block the IP or protect Green Fire, because the same IP always make the same nonsense edit and change the Green Fire from a middleweight Kart to a Lightweight Kart. Maybe both would be a good idea. -- 20:06, 3 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Beaten to it :P --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Signature proposal
I know it's been a while since my proposal passed but I'm wondering why you decided to make a strong point of "encourage" instead of "mandatory". The signature guidelines already said that a datestamp is encouraged so that action would make the proposal ineffective. The proposal's goal was that a new rule should be added (maybe it wasn't clear enough in the proposal itself but I did say multiple times in the comments) making the timestamp (which, I don't see why is a big deal, it's not that hard to set up or can be inputted manually) a requirement for signatures, and that it would be enforced like any other signature rule (e.g. images, text, etc.) and would warrant an informal message at most, not a warning. With all of this, why did you choose to keep it toned down? I'm just curious over this; the current situation is perfectly fine and I'm not demanding to add that but I just want to know why the "enforce" part was quickly shot down. 20:32, 3 July 2016 (EDT)
 * It's basically still a requisite but it's how I preferred it to be worded and seemingly how most other people did as well. I didn't like making it strictly mandatory to have a datestamp but rather make it strongly encouraged. A matter of semantics, if you'd like. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Ah ok, thanks. By "strongly", though, does that mean important but still not enough to warrant an official rule? 21:34, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * What specifically did you have in mind? Rule 4 already mentions signatures should be followed by a datestamp. -- 21:51, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Exactly that; I didn't notice the specific at the end of Rule 4. 21:56, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

romanization of Japanese names
I found that editors sometimes come up with different romanizations for Japanese names that include kanji. For example, ゴツゴツ山 could either read "gotsugotsu san" or "gotsugotsu yama" -- both are correct. Does the wiki distinguish "ゴツゴツ山 gotsugotsu yama", which means Nintendo has specified a reading of the kanji and the romanization is done accordingly, from "ゴツゴツ山 gotsugotsu yama", which means the romanization is conjectural?

By the way, when making edits like this, is it a good idea to upload a screenshot as a "proof"? 22:02, 3 July 2016 (EDT)
 * It's not officially distinguished but it's good you are doing it that way to there is no doubt as to the romanization. It could be implemented in Japanese so that other editors start doing that.
 * It wouldn't hurt to have a source backing that up so that other editors know where it's coming from. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks. By the way, when should there be parenthesized Japanese name following the English name in the intro text? I'm confused as the Mario article doesn't have it but the Luigi one does.  02:53, 16 July 2016 (EDT)
 * There's no solid guideline but the best would be if articles had it in the same manner as Luigi. -- 11:28, 16 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Um... what about articles like this? If there isn't any etymological relationship between the English and the Japanese names, should the Japanese name still stay that way or be moved down to its foreignname section?  11:40, 16 July 2016 (EDT)
 * If there is no relationship at all, I'd say move it down. Take note, this is only my take on it. Maybe a discussion on MarioWiki talk:Japanese could give us more opinions. -- 11:49, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Old User Personal Pages
has three personal pages that don't serve MarioWiki. I only noticed this as I was replacing Super Paper Mario images. Should those pages be deleted? There could be more, but I could only find three when typing User:PrincessJojora into the search box. -- 20:41, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * They should indeed be deleted, yeah. They are indeed the only such pages. --Henry Tucayo Clay (talk) 20:54, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Fantastic! Thanks for deleting those pages. -- 20:55, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Pages

 * User:PrincessJojora/Kidnapped
 * User:PrincessJojora/Fleepsa Characters
 * User:PrincessJojora/Fleepsa

Shroom Images and Not Unused Images
Remember a while back how I said some images tagged with and images tagged with  were showing up in Special:UnusedFiles (probably unintended), reducing that special page's usefulness? implemented an ingenious way to fix that problem! See our talk pages to find out how the problem was solved. -- 17:44, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Yes! I remember it and I actually was recalling it when I saw YK and 22's solution; I'm glad it could be done! It goes to show all the things one can do in MediaWiki. -- 21:19, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

Forum PM
Hi Tucayo! I send you a PM on the forum about the suggestions that you send me with the message about my applications. I made some changes and I would like if you can look at this. Thanks! :) -- 23:27, 10 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Hi! I actually just replied :) -- 00:07, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Hi! Sorry to disturb you again, I give you a new PM. :) -- 19:06, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Replied :) -- 20:51, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Appealing Archive Warnings
Hey Tucayo I have a question, can you appeal warnings on archives. I personally feel I didn't deserve one of the warnings (definitely not the one you gave me) but another one, I checked both the warning and courtesy policies thrice and it isn't mentioned anywhere for the action I did, even though it's archived can I still appeal it as it wasn't deserved. 03:40, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Yes, you can appeal those as well. -- 15:53, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Vandal IP?
Special:Contributions/73.143.232.75 -- 19:05, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * This IP is at it again. The block is still enforced but the IP slipped through. This is weird. -- 21:34, 12 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Got it, thanks. -- 21:36, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

Giant Bowser and Giant Luigi
I have a quick question why is it Giant Bowser is a redirect to Bowser but Giant Luigi is it's own article? Shouldn't They both be split or merged either way doesn't really matter but it is just bizarre seeing this. 22:27, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * From what I can gather, there's not enough info about Giant Bowser as of now. Should there be enough info to put together an article, it should be split as well. -- 22:35, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Main Images in Infoboxes
I noticed an IP changed the image of two pages on the Infoboxes for their respective articles. Back before when the other M&Ls came out we didn't change it (did we)? So the question is does the image in the infobox have to originate from the main series only or can it be like cartoon images as well? 18:07, 12 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Main series images are better as they are more representative. -- 21:30, 12 July 2016 (EDT)

IP adding false information
I just saw an IP add false information on two pages here is the said IP. (108.30.53.16) EDIT: I already told him to stop. 18:31, 13 July 2016 (EDT)
 * There's no point in telling them since they're just random vandals, it's best to just go straight to an admin. -- 21:35, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

Edit File For Me
I was going to edit File:NintendoClassicNES UK.jpg by inserting Category:Nintendo Entertainment System Images, but it is protected. Please do it for me? -- 14:51, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Sure thing. -- 15:18, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks! -- 16:39, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

Why, yes!
I know I have to do that! Is there any page whose information I forgot to update, regarding my moving an article's name to another? In this case, I am sorry for my lack of attention. -- 06:25, 16 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Skeleton (enemy) and Squid. Don't worry, it happens :) -- 11:28, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Recent Issue
The user has been adding unnecessary (final appearance) trivia mainly on this page. Most of his edit history consists of adding that same trivia about it being the final appearance of a character in the game, the main article he's been doing this to is Mario Party 7, he did it to more earlier just so you can see here is a list of his contributions. I gave him a reminder earlier telling him to stop but he did it again a month later, he's also targeted Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. 16:30, 16 July 2016 (EDT)
 * He hasn't done it since you last told him about it so there's nothing that should be done. -- 17:54, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

Anonymous Vandal 2
I saw an anonymous person vandalize an important template here is the IP 97.92.33.126 18:31, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Done. -- 19:19, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Green Fire
You wanna protect the Green Fire page or something? Anonymous users keep changing it to be a lightweight when it very clearly isn't... EDIT: Seems it was protected earlier, but it expired. EDIT 2: This guy is a vandal. 15:51, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Done. -- 15:59, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Mini-Boss category
I noticed that in the bosses category, all bosses were listed regardless to whether they were once (or always) mini/mid-bosses in general (eg. Big Buzzy Beetle Kamek etc.) shouldn't there be a category for both? 00:01, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * What exactly do you mean by this? A category for one-time mini-bosses and a category for traditional mini-bosses? That wouldn't be necessary. -- 15:53, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * What I mean is like a category for all mini-bosses not two seperate categories. 16:20, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Category:Bosses has Category:Final Bosses as a sub-category; it should be assumed bosses who are only in the former and not the latter are mid-bosses and mini-bosses. I mean, a category for mid/mini-bosses could be made for the sake or organization, but it's not exactly needed. -- 16:35, 20 July 2016 (EDT)

Wrongful Move (Can't Undo Myself)
File:Goombo.png was moved to File:Galoomba1.png by. It's a personal image belonging to. I checked his talk page and there seems to be a personal image violation that never got resolved. Not sure how to proceed with this. -- 04:58, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, I took care of that. -- 15:53, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks for the move-back but what are you going to do about the too many personal images problem that has existed for over two years now? -- 16:53, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I hadn't noticed that, I'll just delete some at random so he remains at 4. -- 18:32, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I moved it because... it's not a Goombo. It's a Galoomba. Goombos are an actual thing. It's like having a Koopa Troopa image labelled Shellcreeper.png - Reboot (talk) 17:04, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Personal images can be named whatever the current owner of the personal images wants, as long as it doesn't contain anything inappropriate, such as profanity or racial slurs. -- 17:59, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * ^That. Users can name their images however they please.

User Welcoming IP
welcomed an anonymous user. Are we sure that's allowed because no other IPs have that on their talk pages. Will the template have to be deleted? Will the user get a reminder of any sort? 22:16, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Welcoming IP's is completely unnecessary but there's no reason at all to give the user a reminder. -- 15:39, 21 July 2016 (EDT)

about User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox
Hi. Wildgoosespeeder said here that you wanted his /sandbox stuff be passed as rules instead of recommendations. I wonder what that means? Will we be forbidden from uploading YouTube screenshots from then on? 12:34, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I said "official page", I never said "rules". It should be noted the page does not forbid anyone from uploading YouTube screenshots and I quote: "If you are going to take a screenshot of a YouTube video (or equivalent media), save in PNG format and tag the image immediately with so a more appropriately captured screenshot can be uploaded at a future date." -- 15:39, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I think there was some confusion when I first mentioned my emulator screenshot idea and you said it was approved by the other admins. A lot has changed since then. I think the page needs to see review by the admins again in its current state. Also will this be a rule/policy (MarioWiki namespace page) or recommendation (help namespace page)? -- 15:53, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
 * As you said, we'd need to review it again to make the call. When it's ready to go you can let me know and we'll take a look at it. -- 15:55, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I don't think it is ready yet as a formal page but I would like to see how the other admins feel about the page as it currently stands. Think of this as a check-in to show how the project is progressing. Let's see if the other admins like the direction it is going in. -- 16:00, 21 July 2016 (EDT)

Different emulator allowed?
Sorry to trouble you again, but if YouTube screenshots are allowed, then I suppose screenshots taken with a different emulator are also allowed? Only two emulators for N64 have been stated on User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox and I'm using a third whose result doesn't differ much. Take a Paper Mario screenshot for example:

Is that allowed? And if it is, does my version need to be tagged because it does not comply with that standard?

Thanks again. I'm sorry to be such a trouble since I already have a complete set of savestates and don't want to replay the game from start with a different emulator. 20:55, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Yes, a screenshot is better than no screenshot and they can be taken from YouTube or from any emulator. I don't think them being taken with a different emulator calls for the quality template, and we're actually discussing about the tag being necessary in YouTube screenshots. We'll have a full update soon, but yes, your screenshot is fine. -- 23:50, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Whoa whoa whoa. I think this is getting out of hand., I did think your original screenshot submissions for Simon were fine and didn't need . I just wanted to upload a screenshot generated by a different graphics plug-in for comparison-sake. As for YouTube as a source for screenshots, I consider it a lazy way to satisfy an article tagged with or . YouTube videos vary in quality drastically, but all are lossy. It makes maintenance harder for screenshot submitters if they aren't tagged with  or are in the JPEG format (screenshots are better as PNGs). Emulators allow for full control of quality. -- 00:55, 23 July 2016 (EDT)

RE:
Thanks for getting back to me ! I was guessing that a policy was a long shot, but seeing its potential to be a help page, that's good news to hear! -- 00:27, 26 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I'll be sure to change the fake title since this page will remain a sandbox for now until I can finalize some things.
 * Although showing examples are good, I think a little bit more elaboration would be a good thing too. See File:Thwomp Wario's Woods.png for an example. Even though it meets dimension suggestions, it was originally a JPEG converted to PNG and abandoned by . If a file size is oddly high, the person seeing the screenshot should upload a cleaner version of the image.
 * Post-processing: That would be applying filters after a clean screenshot was taken or using a filter as the game is running in the emulator (against Image Use Policy anyways).
 * Feel free to tweak the wording now if you want. I don't mind. I allowed it before.
 * I don't have much to work with when it comes to 3DS screenshots because I can't do it right now. There is no indirect link I can supply right now. That is as good as its going to get unless an exploit gets released that can be used by anybody on any firmware version (browserhax, free eShop titles that happen to be exploitable, etc.). I am only acknowledging the 3DS hacking scene can do PNG screenshots.
 * I'll be sure to do that.

Another IP
An IP 76.2.233.252 has been vandalizing pages. I'm not sure if this is the same guy as before but he was vandalizing pages and then reverting his vandalism just as I'm about to do it. 16:17, 21 July 2016 (EDT)

Offensive message
I saw a highly offensive meesge on Walkazo's talk page. I was highly offended by it especially since she recently died. Can I remove that profane message as it is flaming. 20:53, 21 July 2016 (EDT)

Restore Image
I am a bit curious but I wonder what File:Screen6.gif contained. Also it breaks the pattern, which makes me even more curious:


 * File:Screen1.gif
 * File:Screen2.gif
 * File:Screen3.gif
 * File:Screen4.gif
 * File:Screen5.gif
 * File:Screen6.gif
 * File:Screen7.gif
 * File:Screen8.gif
 * File:Screen9.gif
 * File:Screen10.gif

Please restore the image? -- 17:19, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Images deleted before 2012 can't be restored, sorry. -- 17:24, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
 * What happened to make it impossible to be restored? -- 17:29, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I don't remember the specifics but it had to do with an update. -- 18:55, 22 July 2016 (EDT)

A Paper Mario edit
Hey Tucayo, some IP (104.181.85.104) has continuously added some information on two Paper articles that there is nothing suggesting that those games took place within the Paper book when both Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and Paper Mario: Sticker Star both start with a book. When both me myself and two other users reverted them even Mario jc a patroller reverted a few of his edits I already sent him a message telling him to please stop, if he/she does it again what should I do? 04:15, 24 July 2016 (EDT)
 * The way he worded it in his last edit to each of those pages makes perfect sense and I would not undo that edit. -- 11:21, 24 July 2016 (EDT)

Question
On 's talk, I gave him a about edit sniping but I see he has done this once before. Should the reminder I gave him be elevated to ? -- 16:34, 24 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Since the Reminder was already issued, then no, it shouldn't be changed. -- 18:59, 24 July 2016 (EDT)