Talk:Baby Yoshi

Are you kidding?! The Yoshis in Yoshi's Story are tiny!!!

They grow up to adult if they eat any item, try to do it with a mushroom or feather.

The Yoshis in Yoshi's Story aren't Baby Yoshis. --Xeze 13:31, 13 February 2008 (EST)
 * They are. The intro refer to them as such. --Blitzwing 13:47, 13 February 2008 (EST)

Babies
Baby Yoshi is my favorite Baby! To find out more about me go to my page. User:Mario freak

Merge to Yoshi (species)?
The information on this page doesn't necessarily merit an individual article. Baby Yoshi aren't a species, sub-species, or even a form; they're simply infant Yoshi. This article amounts to no more than a list of appearances of infant or child Yoshi in different media, but dresses it up in a flashy way with lots of pictures. A similar issue was brought up and proposed not too long ago, about knowing the difference between characters as infants, and the Baby characters. The two are not one and the same, and this was understood and the two separated per that proposal.

Because of all this, I feel the relevant information on this page should be merged into the Yoshi (species) article. It would fit appropriately under the Biology section, and result in a much more comprehensive article on the subject. It should also be noted that none of the images found on this page would be lost due to this proposed merge. In fact, all the images are taken from other articles for the purpose of filling up this page. Nothing serious will be lost, except for a list, if you find that important.

Proposer: Deadline: March 15 2010, 23:59

Merge to Yoshi (species)

 * 1) - Per proposal
 * 2) Per Redstar. I split Blue toad for you FYI.

Leave un-merged

 * 1) I am Zero! I changed my mind, Baby Yoshis seem to have a slightly different role in mario games then regular yoshis. Zero signing out.
 * 2) The same could be said about Baby Mario, Baby Luigi and the like.
 * 3) Baby Yoshi is treated like a separate character in some parts of the article. Merging a "separate character" with the species sounds strange.
 * 4) Baby Yoshi is totally different from regular Yoshi.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) - The article needs improvement, sure. But It should not be merged, as the Baby Yoshi is a rather different form of Yoshi, especially in SMW.

Comments
@Reversinator, LeftyGreenMario, and Supermariofan14: You all seem to think this proposal is about merging Baby Yoshi (character) into Yoshi (character). This is not what this proposal is attempting to do. It instead attempting to merge the infant stage of Yoshi into the Yoshi as a race page, which covers biology. Infant Yoshi are a stage in Yoshi biology, so keeping the information unmerged is needless. This proposal is nothing like merging Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, etc. into their adult forms. Redstar 19:49, 2 March 2010 (EST)


 * Well, I still stand up for what I previously said, Baby Yoshi is a character.

I'm not participating in this proposal because the Baby Yoshi article is like the Metal Mario article before it got split and the Yellow Toad article.
 * @Supermariofan14: Umm, no. Not every infant Yoshi is the character Baby Yoshi. Redstar 01:08, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * No, but all the babies are still characters, and should be treated equally.
 * That's not really true. This article is about the biological state of a Yoshi as an infant, not a collection of information on infant Yoshi characters. They can be treated "equally" on their respective articles; not here. Redstar 04:45, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * And the other articles are about the biological of the other characters as infants. See, concistency rules here.
 * No they're not. What are you talking about? Redstar 15:00, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * Baby Mario is not the biological info of Mario. Baby Mario is a character that stars in Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario and Luigi: Partners in time, Yoshi's Story, etc. Baby Yoshi now describes part of the Fearsome 5, the star child in Yoshi's Island DS, the biological info of Yoshis, etc. This is like the Blue Toad article before it was split.

If the info on the biological "Baby Yoshis" was merged with the species article, wouldn't the same have to be done for Baby Blooper, and any other such pages? - 19:29, 7 March 2010 (EST)
 * Well we did it for Blue Toad.

Okay, has anyone that has voted against merging even read the proposal? Do any of you know what the proposal is attempting to do? From your vote comments it seems none of you do. Redstar 03:42, 11 March 2010 (EST)
 * I do, and my reason still firmly stands.

Merge relative info into Yoshi (species), Little Yoshi and Fearsome 5
As Redstar states above, we need to merge info where Baby Yoshi was considered a species. But, in Paper Mario, there was 5 baby yoshis called the Fearsome 5, and In Tetris Attack, there is a yellow Little Yoshi. The info can be merged into the respective articles. Sections are split into:
 * Yoshi (species)
 * Super Mario World
 * Yoshi's Story
 * Little Yoshi
 * Tetris Attack
 * Fearsome 5
 * Paper Mario

Proposer: Deadline: March 17 2010, 23:59

Oppose

 * 1) Little Yoshi redirects to Baby Yoshi and the Fearsome 5 are very important characters and have a lot of info. If we do this, then we'd have to merge all the Glitz Pit Battle Teams into their respective articles, such as Craw Daddy.
 * 2) Per Gamefreak75.
 * 3) Per Game.
 * 4) - The article needs improvement, sure. But It should not be merged, as the Baby Yoshi is a rather different form of Yoshi, especially in SMW.

Comments
Why did you make this proposal when mine, just above, is proposing essentially the same exact thing? Redstar 01:08, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * No it isn't. It is going to merge the Paper Mario info into the Fearsome 5.
 * The Paper Mario section of this article wasn't covering the Fearsome 5 as characters, but by their role as baby Yoshi. (If that isn't entirely clear, then the section should be re-written to make the coverage of that role more obvious)


 * In any case, my proposal only received its deadline today, so it was well within its limits to be amended or expanded. You could have simply asked rather then make another too-similar proposal and confuse any potential voters for either. Redstar 01:19, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * But aren't there many baby yoshis in the Fearsome 5???
 * That's kinda the reason why they're mentioned on here. Redstar 01:31, 3 March 2010 (EST)
 * This is Baby Yoshi (character), not baby Yoshis.
 * No, it's not. The main focus of this article is on infant (baby) Yoshi, not Baby Yoshi the character, whom is a Star Child. Information on both are on here because Baby Yoshi (character) doesn't have enough information to hold its own. Redstar 01:40, 3 March 2010 (EST)

Subject of the article
ForeverDaisy's attempt to remove the section on the cartoon raises an interesting question: what exactly is the subject of this article? The introduction and most of the sections seem to indicate that the article is meant to cover the biological aspect of a Yoshi in its infant stage, and how infant Yoshi are depicted in various media.

However, some of the sections (such as the above mentioned cartoon section) are written with the focus more on the character rather than the presentation of the character's biology. I think we should re-write the article to avoid this focus on the characters rather than the biology; however, as per my above proposal, more than a few people seem to think this article is about Baby Yoshi (the character) rather than infant Yoshi. Any thoughts? Redstar 22:31, 4 March 2010 (EST)

I don't get why you undid the edit then. ForeverDaisy09 23:13, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * Because it was an example of an infant Yoshi in the cartoon. Rather than simply being removed it should be refocused. Redstar 23:17, 4 March 2010 (EST)
 * No, it is a section about Yoshi from the cartoon in baby form. The mentioned proposal made it so that baby characters from cartoons could not be associated with video-game counterparts. ForeverDaisy09 00:21, 5 March 2010 (EST)
 * You're not getting it. This article is about the biological state of infant Yoshi. The character Yoshi was an infant in the cartoon. That section is meant to point out the characteristics of an infant Yoshi in the cartoon, of which the character Yoshi is the only example. Rather than being removed, it should be refocused to make the example more clear along the lines of the articles subject. Redstar 00:52, 5 March 2010 (EST)
 * Uhh... the Baby Yoshi in the cartoon was the infant version of Yoshi too.
 * That's exactly my point. Redstar 04:20, 12 March 2010 (EST)
 * Ohhh. I get what you mean. Yeah, I agree with Redstar.