Talk:Spiny Fish

Merge Spiny Fish with Spiny Cheep Cheep
MERGE 6-4

It's pretty obvious this is just a one-off redesign, like the "Gabons" from the same game.

Proposer: Deadline: May 5, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Now that the name's confirmed, putting my vote back.
 * 2) I do believe that a merge is in order so, OK! Per all!
 * 3) They share the same Japanese name. That's enough for me! Per all.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per Binarystep.
 * 6) Here, this picture. (Thanks again Ebay) Spiny Fish = トゲプク = Spiny Cheep Cheep. Name from guide = Name from Wikipedia. Wikipedia = correct. Merge.

Oppose

 * 1) It would be better if this page was moved to.
 * 2) - The Japanese name's unconfirmed and besides, this fish looks very little like Spiny Cheep Cheep; I see little reason to go out of our way to merge it when it has its own English name: the more articles, the better. I even question the Gabon merge, especially now that I see that it should never have passed in the first place: it should have been no quorum.
 * 3) Per Walkazo.
 * 4) Per Walkazo.

Comments
@Stonehill: Spiny Fish can't be moved to Spiny Cheep Cheep, as that name is already being used.
 * Wait, never mind. I missed the Yoshi's Story part.
 * Just so we're clear, Binarystep - are you proposing a merge because of this page's foreign name? LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:10, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
 * That is correct. Binarystep (talk) 17:04, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
 * In that case, you may want to rethink your strategy, considering that, according to the person who placed the name there, he grabbed it from either the JP Wikipedia (bad, especially since the name matches) or the Daijiten (slightly less bad but I can't verify that). I'd rather err on the side of caution.
 * What even is the Daijiten? Is it seriously just some random Mario Monsters-ish fansite we've been using as a source for some reason? Binarystep (talk) 17:27, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
 * Basically, yep. It has a good track record, but obviously, we can't take its word on everything.
 * Can I change my vote then? Not sure if I can since there's a per vote specifically mentioning me. Binarystep (talk) 03:29, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
 * You can change your vote, but your original one will need to be slashed through using

(And SmokedChili saves yet another proposal - I could pretend I knew it was there all along, but that'd be a lie...) In general, I disagree with the "more the merrier" mentality whenever I feel it borders on compromising accuracy - Gabon is almost unambiguously a Spike in every way, and even if the circumstances are a bit iffy, it's not like there was a previous proposal that prevented such action, so it's still a legit merge in a weird way... This fish is something I'm still not entirely sold on, however. For one, it acts much more like one of the aquatic Donkey Kong Country enemies than a Spiny Cheep Cheep, and even though the 3D renders of the N64 era were always a little strange and unrefined, this looks absolutely nothing like its usual design (different shape, size, eyes, etc. like they went out of their way to disconnect it from the previous version). One can also argue that the developers may not have been fully aware of the original enemy, especially considering it's only been in one game at this point, so the intent debate can go either way... On the other hand, I'm far more interested in the fact that SmokedChili's scan directly calls Blurps Pukupuku, the same as ordinary Cheep Cheep, which is almost certainly much more deliberate than Togepuku ever will be. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2015 (EDT)