Talk:Super Mario Sunshine

Fruit
If you throw fruit at an enemy, don't they die? I haven 't played in a while, so I don't remember.

Nope. The fruit just bounces off.

OK. I just couldn't remember.

Article Improvamabilitation
There are two things we should do to improve this article:
 * 1. Find the final box art - the picture we have has a rating of "RP".
 * 2. Use that template that we did in Super Mario 64's article that explained what had to be done in each Episode.
 * Sound good? Dunadunadunadunadunadunadunaduna DODOMAN!
 * Pretty good! The one problem is that the box art we have was the last electronically released by Nintendo!  But, with some fine tuning (read: Microsoft Paint) we can make it more accurately reflect the final box art.  Oh, and we should take out the command form from the glitches section as well.   21:14, 14 August 2007 (EDT)
 * That sounds good too. The only thing I mean by "final" box art is one with the E rating from ESRB. I'll get that Episodes template and fix the Glitch paragraph... (but not necessarily immediately :P) --Dodorino
 * Dodoman! The glitches section looks wonderful!  Thanks for doing it!  19:26, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

If Ya Don't Mind
I found a glitch in Gelato Beach, and just about to add it. Minimariolover10

Notable Acts
Someone add a new quote for this and a Mario's Notable act section in this? IG Mario's notable act in the final stage is battling Bowser.(Super F22 Pilot 04:13, 22 November 2007 (EST))

Mini-Game Shines
I got all eight of the shines from every village, defeated Corona Mountain, got over 200 blue coins, both of the yellow birds, and a couple of mini-games, but I only came up with 119 shines. Can anyone tell me what I might be missing? If you have any ideas I'd appreciate it if you could leave them on my talk page.
 * You're probably missing something in Delfino Plaza. Done both of the crate guy mini-games?  Been thrown by that guy into the tower with the shine?  Cleaned the bells?  Gotten Yoshi over to that island with the lost dude (who is back on Delfino Plaza after the flood)?  21:22, 10 January 2008 (EST)

[Yoshitheawesome] Maybe yur missing the speed nozzle raceway as i call it. it's in that weird door thing behind the guards.

Noki Bay
Have you ever noticed that it's a mystery why the uncorking of the waterfall actualy stops some of Eely Mouth's (and partialy Gooper Blooper's pollution)?User:Petey

It is because of the fresh flowing water.-- More news from Shadow Yoshi.

Trivia
Some of the trivia on this page isn't really needed, such as "This game has the same abbreviation as Super Mario Strikers" (As I don't think that Nintendo has ever actually called either of the games that) And the mentioning of the debut of Toadsworth and Bowser Jr. isn't really needed, is it? HyperToad
 * It's here as well? I already removed the info from Super Mario Strikers. About the debuts I'm not really sure, better wait for other people's opinions. - 14:16, 23 January 2008 (EST)

ZOMG Trivia
I'm not gonna delete that new fact in teh Trivia section, that one about the game having a message about pollution...because it kind of has a point, but at the same time, I don't think it's necessary or Trivia-like or accurate.

Oh, and how does this game break the fourth wall exactly? Excuse me if I've missed something obvious...but I need to be reminded if I've forgotten.


 * After Bowser is defated, a Pianta in Delfino Plaza says: "The game is already finished ?!" (I'm not sure of the traduction, I have the French version.)

KOOPALMIER, TEH BEST(or not)
 * Yes, it is the same in the American Engish version... so since two versions do it, I bet the Japanese version did it as well. (P.S. Do you mean translation?)  14:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry, I'm French, and I'm not very good with English language.

KOOPALMIER, TEH BEST(or not)
 * You shouldn't be sorry - your English is great! You're doing much, much better than I do with other languages (I actually assumed that you were a native English speaker who had moved to France or a French-speaking part of Canada), so no one's going to judge! (Especially because we need more European users!)  10:18, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Test level???
Can someone PLEASE tell me if they have got to the test level because I dont believe it is real. HOW do you do an action replay and HOW do you get to the 'giant blob with shoes'?
 * Sounds like forum talk. Please don't put this on article talk pages. 06:58, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

What does that mean? I'm talking about this bit in the trivia, 'A Test Level is only accessible by use of an Action replay. This was a debugging level that the developers forgot to take out of the game. It is scattered in blocks with numbers, and there is also a giant blob-like creature with legs.'-- More news from Shadow Yoshi.

Things to add
Could we mabey add some audio. My bro wants the music for when you verse Wiggler Ahoy and I want the one from the red coin level in noki bay.-- More news from Shadow Yoshi.

We could do a lot of things...
This is a featured, but we could still spruce it up.


 * And how? If you have any ideas, be bold and edit the article. 07:57, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Okay, I want answers...
Someone was messing with this article's gallery and attempted to repostion pictures in the wrong sections (not to mention changing some sub-headers around -- group pictures are NOT screenshots). Can anyone who was responsible for this explain themselves, please? --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 02:49, 13 November 2009 (EST)


 * I was only trying to fix the gallery because people were complaining about trivia and screenshots being in artwork...AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP! I LOVED this game and I don't want it to be unfeautured. People shouldn't just sit around saying "unfeauture this article blahdeblahdeblah".-_- --

Trivia
The thing about the talking.. can I have a video to it or something? It really bugs me for some reason

Beta Elements
A picture on the beta element page shows Mario with a Green Yoshi in the Pianta Village right? It showed the Fruit tank empty, meaning that the Yoshi was turning Green, the only thing wrong was that it was at the daytime. AltoConcerto: Drifting Virtuoso. 22:27, November, 7, 2010

Trivia
Super Mario Sunshine isn't the only game to have extensice character voice acting. What about Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour when you taunt another player in multiplayer?

Tails777


 * Those are mainly one-liners; which don't really count. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 20:23, 28 December 2010 (EST)


 * I'm pretty sure it still counts. It's still character voice acting no matter how long the lines are.

A few things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3t5wxcTToI&feature=related In this video of the Jap version the Nintendo logo is blue. I don't know about your game, but it's red in mine. This video also seems to disprove that thing about Mario and Toadsworth talking to each other. That might just be my speakers though so in that case, sorry.--TimTamChimchar 01:55, 29 January 2011 (EST) Well, yes, but that's not part of the main series, so it doesn't really count. TheDisneyGamer (talk) 15:34, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

False trivia
trivia says "It is the only 3D Mario game that does not have Goombas as enemies.", what about luigi's mansion? I&#39;m my bro&#39;s bro.

Those Raccoons
Is there any official name for the raccoon people you give the Blue Coins to? Yoshi waker   10:14, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 * None AKAIK. our article on them use a conjectural name. --Glowsquid 10:17, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 * Oh, I was just trying to find the article. Thanks! Red_Yoshi_TTYD.png‎‎ Yoshi  waker  Orange_Yoshi_TTYD.PNG 11:17, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

MENTION
Should I mention that this happened sometime after the events of Mario 64?

Yoshi?
What are the controls for Yoshi? - Red-CyanToad


 * That kind of talk is more appropriate for the forums than this article's talk page, unless the question is asked with the intent of improving the given article.

Trivia
sonic's invincibility theme have the same music of Delfino Plaza. I think it's remixed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvZTzOiQes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3eDb2RhyQ and, dolphin in italian is delfino. i think it's not coincidence, because the island is dolphin-shaped.


 * Yeah, no, I'm more than sure it's coincidence. Lord Grammaticus 14:47, 25 January 2012 (EST)

Video Recomendation
Playingwithmahwii has a great video playthrough on youtube for the sunshine game.


 * This page is for discussing improving the article, as mentioned at the top of the article. Comments like that are better suited for the forums, so please take them there.

The Secret of Casino Delfino

 * Did you guys know that in this level that Mario could get crushed by the giant glass cubes? - Bill-tendo 15:16, 5 February 2012 (EST)

Test level: Action Replay Only? Really?
its gotta be possible to go to the test level without an AR. what about an emulator and whatnot? Pointy Stick Of Doom +99 (talk) 22:31, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

Animal Crossing
There is a reference to this in Animal Crossing: New Leaf. While talking to Gulliver, he mentions Ricco Harbor, although I do realise all the current references are from Mario games, so sorry if I misunderstood that.--96.44.90.196 20:12, 17 April 2014 (EDT)

Sun sprite
I remember at one point there was a sprite of the sun on this page. It's not there anymore. What happened to it? Did using the image break a rule or something? And no, I do not mean an image of a Shine Sprite. I mean a sprite of the actual sun from this game. --J-Yoshi64 (talk) 14:22, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Launch title
"It was the first main Mario series title not to be a launch title for its respective console." What about SMB3? 71.226.144.42 17:07, 16 May 2015 (EDT)

Should TCRF be credited for the regional differences somehow?
Seeing as they credit MarioWiki for things... --Hiccup (talk) 09:34, 19 December 2015 (EST)
 * can you establish a reasonable case for the current section being based on TCRF's? I checked TCRF's Sunshine pages for regional differences and the writing and formatting is different enough to pass off as original content. --Glowsquid (talk) 13:11, 19 December 2015 (EST)
 * Oh, I meant the "discovery", not the actual text. --Hiccup (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Pre-rendered cutsence
Can you add that this is the only main Mario game so far to have pre-rendered cutsences?
 * The cutscenes are not pre-rendered though, they're live rendered. Unless you count possibly the little TV screen with the Piantas advertising as possible, but that's not really a cutscene. 16:21, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

How'd you know they're live rendered?
 * The best way to tell is to play through an emulator and notice how the screenshot gets affected if you try adjusting the resolution. If you increase the resolution higher than intended aspect display, the models remain crisp if it's live-rendered. If it's pre-rendered, the screenshot would look bloated as if you took an image and resized it. After all, pre-rendered scenes are just a bunch of moving images (like in a movie) while live-rendering loads models, textures, animations, and so on. Do you understand the differences? Additionally, Dolphin Emulator provides a free-look (a hack that allows you to adjust the camera and explore the 3D environment), and it wouldn't be possible to view a scene with free-look if it's prerendered, because it's technically only a 2d image in-game. 16:41, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

Wow! Saying they're pre-rendered cutsences is just a popular belief. But, why do many people believe they're pre-rendered cutsences?

I think it's because this game doesn't run at 60 frames.


 * Now I'm wondering how the cutscenes were replaced with random FMVs in the Games Repainted hack of it, if the originals were live rendered scene setups and not videos themselves.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:25, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
 * If they could replace the cutscenes with FMV then that makes it prerenderd (unless it's a video edit). Unless the cutscenes run at 60 fps and the game never runs smoother than 30 fps, then frame rate is irrelevant. 01:19, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Koji Kondo and Shinobu Tanaka music credit issue
I brought this issue up on the discussion page for Koji Kondo, but it failed to gain traction there.

There are some inconsistencies both on Kondo's page and Shinobu Tanaka's page, the two credited composers of Super Mario Sunshine. According to Tanaka's page, she is the "credited" as the composer for "Polluted Packun" and "Manta". She supposedly arranged a piece called "Fake Mario" as well. However, on Kondo's page, he is credited as the composer for "Mini Boss Gatekeeper", "Mini Boss Manta", and "Shadow Mario". Based on the fact that these pieces attributed to battles against the Polluted Piranha, Phantamanta, and Shadow Mario respectively, I'm inclined to believe that these are the same pieces listed under different names on each composer's page. With this in mind, I have a few questions: - Nintendo101 (talk) 13:44, 14 January 2019 (EST)
 * 1) What’s the story here? Who composed which?
 * 2) Since we're on the topic, where did the music credits even come from? No official soundtrack for Sunshine has ever been released. We only definitively know the credits for a few songs that have reappeared on compilation albums over the years. If there is another official source, please share it below.
 * 3) With question #2 in mind, how do we know the names of all of these tracks? Is there some sort of official track list for Sunshine unavailable to the public? Where else would the names of the tracks come from? Why are they different between the two composers (i.e. "Mini Boss Manta" for Kondo, "Manta" for Tanaka)?