User talk:Yoshi the SSM

I have some rules for this talk page. 1. Don't say anything personal. This includes saying that it is my birthday. There be a lot of those around if I didn't do this. 2. Don't use my real name. Either use you or Yoshi the Space Station Manager. 3. Don't make fun of me of any kind. Even if it meets the code of the wiki, don't do it. Don't break rules at all here. 4. Don't say something bad about any character in video games. You can say something wrong with my changes about characters. 5. You can talk to me about the Mario Boards if there is no category for you to put it in. 6. All friend requests go under "Be my friend?". I may say no if I want to. Don't expect a response about being friends on this talk page. It will be on your talk page. The picture I send will be appropriate for the friend request. Although, those who are a little worried about making friends, yet I am being friendly and helpful to them, the one that I gave Ultimate Mr. L will be the one I will give them, but only if I deem it worthy to give it to them. Ultimate Mr. L decided to add Yoshis to his Usertower randomly (after Kamek). All friend requests go on the bottom of the page. If you use the + for a non-friend-request, then I will move it when I answer what was added. This doesn't apply to the 41st non-friend-request category as it will be on the bottom no matter what. Other than that, all is good.

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 * User's Beginning July 18, 2016 - November 8, 2016

Yoshi...ABANDONED?
Whatever happened to you working on Yoshi (franchise), Yoshi's Island (series), and the rest? 21:17, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * I thought you were working on it. 21:18, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * Well, I was, but I thought you would too once you finished changing all instances of "Yoshi (series)" to "Yoshi (franchise)". 21:21, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * I will need to double check all of that. If you want some advice on how to change the article, I will give you some, but I'm not completely sure what I am doing. I am figuring that these need to be similar to the other franchises. 21:28, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * Okay. I don't have any questions currently. I agree that they should be like the other franchise pages. 21:49, 11 November 2016 (EST)

Nintendo Switch
About your edit to Nintendo Switch, the reference I used didn't mention the Japanese date. So don't you need a reference for that? If you don't want to bother with making the reference thing, I can do it if you give me the website that says the Japanese date. 22:02, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * According to the template, yes. I am not sure the exact place where the reference to be the best, but I am pretty sure I heard it on GameXplain (YouTube Channel which can be used as a reliable source until a better source can be found. Example: I found out about the Nintendo Switch announcement on the GameXplain page, but the reliable source is twitter). 22:14, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * I'm gonna see if I can find it on Nintendo of Japan's Twitter. If I can't find it, I'll use the video or somethng else. 22:18, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * That was only an example. Explore all possible locations for a source to get the best one. 22:20, 11 November 2016 (EST)
 * Hold it! I looked it up, and at least 3 gaming news websites said that the presentation is an event happening at some place in Japan that will be live-streamed to other countries on Jan. 12. In other words, your source was wrong. I'll update the article later; I've gotta get off, partly because my brother wants me to play Super Mario Kart on Wii U Virtual Console with him. Adioas, Amigo! 22:35, 11 November 2016 (EST)

Super Paper Mario bestiary
Hi. I saw you changed that top color to more of an indigo, but that looks odd. I was thinking a slightly lighter blue. Another thing, the Locations tab doesn't have enough room. Could you give it some space by shrinking Defense, Item Drops and Card Type? 10:30, 12 November 2016 (EST)
 * About the Tattle column, it doesn't have enough room either. The Goomba section ended up about three or four times as tall just because of the tattle. Is there a way to put the tattle underneath all the other columns? If not, we could just do what was done in this bestiary and have the tattle stretch off the side.
 * 10:36, 12 November 2016 (EST)
 * We shouldn't include Card Location or Rarity, as that's covered in List of Catch Cards.
 * 10:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)

Paper Mario: Color Splash bestiary
Okay, I'm just starting work on the bestiary. It's nothing really right now, I'm using the Sticker Star bestiary as a base to work off of, and I am waiting on the stats from The RPG Gamer, but it's a start. Go here to watch my progress, and use the talk page there for any future discussion about this.-- 21:31, 14 November 2016 (EST)
 * It took me all day, but I think I finally figured out the best looking template for each enemy in the bestiary. PMCS bestiary -- 19:00, 15 November 2016 (EST)

About list of catch cards
You could've just moved it. It's a lot more convenient than simply cut pasting. If you do move it, the old name will be a redirect just in case you don't know. 23:24, 14 November 2016 (EST)
 * I believe you missed the entirety of this conversation here, RPG Gamer. 23:25, 14 November 2016 (EST)
 * And I know about the move. I probably just stick with just cutting and pasting my talk page unless there is no one to move an official article. 23:27, 14 November 2016 (EST)

Co-worker Userbox
Hi there. I added transparency to my main image, the one used in my Co-worker-henchman userbox. You might want to swap out the colors, with a black main-background and a green code-background, instead of the other way around. The way it is now, the lightning bolts clash with the background. 20:39, 17 November 2016 (EST)

Bestiary/Enemybox Proposal?
I took a small break from filling out the bestiary (which I still need the stats for) to rework the Color Splash enemy box. It took me awhile to figure out, but I eventually came up with an excellent design. This is how the enemy box usually looks (ignore that the "upload images" aren't there.):

Here, the only variable being used is align, which you use to chose how the box will look and align, so this varies between pages. The other variables are used to give the other stats.

Now shown below is how I've retooled the enemy box.

The only difference is that the stats, name, and images are all there now, right? Wrong, because this is the exact code that's displaying this enemy box: Again, only the align variable is active, but where is all the other info coming from, you ask? It's simple. THE BESTIARY That's right! I've made it so that you can place down that line of code on the enemy page and voila! The stats come straight from the bestiary; the left and right aling work as well. In doing this we not only save time adding in enemy boxes to a page, but we also make sure all information in it will always be the same as what's written on the bestiary. Now, I want some input here. I think this method should be used for all the enemy boxes and bestiaries on the wiki, but I don't know if I should make a proposal about it, or only have it for color splash. And if I do make a proposal, I don't think I'd be very good at presenting all my thoughts and have them be easily understood, or if people would even agree with me!!!-- 21:13, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 * Looks good. Before making a Proposal, I have some questions:


 * How are the stats added?
 * What will you do if the images need to be different on the two pages the template is on?
 * The Koopalings don't drop cards. EVER. Would you make a note of that?
 * Will it work for all bestiary/bestiary creators?
 * Are there any flaws in this design?
 * How long will it take to change all of the bestiaries and the enemies that link to them?
 * Is it really necessary to change all of them? (this is not a rhetorical question, it is asking what you think)
 * How will you deal with other people's concerns that I may be missing?
 * and How long do you need the proposal to be?
 * 21:36, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 * How are the stats added?
 * The stats can be edited from the bestiary page, which only I can edit for now until I move it. For now I've setup a redirect.
 * What will you do if the images need to be different on the two pages the template is on?
 * They shouldn't need to be different, but I can edit it to allow the image to be different if need be.
 * The Koopalings don't drop cards. EVER. Would you make a note of that?
 * No. For all color splash enemies that don't drop cards, it'll just say "None" in place of a card image.
 * Will it work for all bestiary/bestiary creators?
 * It should. I haven't tested this with the bestiaries that use tables instead of templates yet. If it doesn't work, then maybe those bestiaries will require an alternate method, or be converted to using templates instead of tables.
 * Are there any flaws in this design?
 * Could you elaborate more on this? For the moment, I can't think of any.
 * How long will it take to change all of the bestiaries and the enemies that link to them?
 * Well, as I mentioned above, this will work with templates, but I haven't tested tables yet. Once I figured out how to make this fully work with color splash, It was quick to change each thing entry I'd done so far. All it took was copy pasting a bunch of times on the bestiary and changing parameters to match the enemy name.
 * Is it really necessary to change all of them? (this is not a rhetorical question, it is asking what you think)
 * I'd think so, yes. The stats provided in the bestiaries are the exact same as the stats in the enemy boxes on other rpgs. T|Since the bestiary is the full collection of all enemy stats for a game, it should be the source page that each and every enemy box would draw it's information from.
 * How will you deal with other people's concerns that I may be missing?
 * I'd try to explain why something is the way it is and if they make a reasonable point I'd see about making modifications. Other than that, I don't really know. I'm not used to this.
 * and How long do you need the proposal to be?
 * What do you mean?

-- 22:05, 19 November 2016 (EST)


 * How are the stats added?
 * The stats can be edited from the bestiary page, which only I can edit for now until I move it. For now I've setup a redirect.
 * Good. There should be no problems then.
 * What will you do if the images need to be different on the two pages the template is on?
 * They shouldn't need to be different, but I can edit it to allow the image to be different if need be.
 * There are some problems that can arise, so it is good to be able to edit the image.
 * The Koopalings don't drop cards. EVER. Would you make a note of that?
 * No. For all color splash enemies that don't drop cards, it'll just say "None" in place of a card image.
 * So you are not going to link the Koopaling Cards to the Koopaling Bosses. I am not sure if that will work, but put it as none for now.
 * Will it work for all bestiary/bestiary creators?
 * It should. I haven't tested this with the bestiaries that use tables instead of templates yet. If it doesn't work, then maybe those bestiaries will require an alternate method, or be converted to using templates instead of tables.
 * Great. Creating a proposal should not be a problem if they work.
 * Are there any flaws in this design?
 * Could you elaborate more on this? For the moment, I can't think of any.
 * Flaws are things that make it less suitable than the other methods used in the current bestiaries.
 * How long will it take to change all of the bestiaries and the enemies that link to them?
 * Well, as I mentioned above, this will work with templates, but I haven't tested tables yet. Once I figured out how to make this fully work with color splash, It was quick to change each thing entry I'd done so far. All it took was copy pasting a bunch of times on the bestiary and changing parameters to match the enemy name.
 * So not that long. May be a little bit longer with the other bestiaries. Good. Also, the proposal should go up after your done testing.
 * Is it really necessary to change all of them? (this is not a rhetorical question, it is asking what you think)
 * I'd think so, yes. The stats provided in the bestiaries are the exact same as the stats in the enemy boxes on other rpgs. T|Since the bestiary is the full collection of all enemy stats for a game, it should be the source page that each and every enemy box would draw it's information from.
 * Great that you think so. This will help make the proposal easier to do.
 * How will you deal with other people's concerns that I may be missing?
 * I'd try to explain why something is the way it is and if they make a reasonable point I'd see about making modifications. Other than that, I don't really know. I'm not used to this.
 * Just what I need to hear. Not the last sentence, which the didn't expect. Being able to answer people's questions and concerns is key to making a good proposal stronger if questions and concerns come.
 * and How long do you need the proposal to be?
 * What do you mean?
 * I mean will you need a week proposal that is on the Proposals page and attract more attention or a two week proposal that is on the page which would be most effected by the proposal and the other bestiaries linked on it but being less of an attention than on the Proposal page?
 * And by the looks of it, the proposal is about ready. All you need to do is keep testing the Color Splash Bestiary. And before making the proposal, why don't you test out the proposal on your work page. You may want to edit it as you do the Color Splash Bestiary and you definitely don't want to lose it during the editing. And I look forward to voting in on the proposal. (Note: I think the Proposal should be about unity of the bestiaries. Have the first option the template you are suggesting. The Second option to make all thing tables even if you don't think they are necessary. And a third option to oppose the unity.) 00:17, 20 November 2016 (EST)


 * The Koopalings don't drop cards. EVER. Would you make a note of that?
 * No. For all color splash enemies that don't drop cards, it'll just say "None" in place of a card image.
 * So you are not going to link the Koopaling Cards to the Koopaling Bosses. I am not sure if that will work, but put it as none for now.
 * It will work, I don't see why it wouldn't.
 * Will it work for all bestiary/bestiary creators?
 * It should. I haven't tested this with the bestiaries that use tables instead of templates yet. If it doesn't work, then maybe those bestiaries will require an alternate method, or be converted to using templates instead of tables.
 * Great. Creating a proposal should not be a problem if they work.
 * To clarify, when I mentioned an "alternate method" I meant how it would detect the information on the bestiary. I did give the other bestiaries a look and the current method will not work. I will have to either come up with an alternative method or convert them to templates. If I end up going with the later, I will certainly just reuse the enemybox templates for those games.
 * Are there any flaws in this design?
 * Could you elaborate more on this? For the moment, I can't think of any.
 * Flaws are things that make it less suitable than the other methods used in the current bestiaries.
 * The only thing that I can think of is the inability to sort the bestiaries enemy profiles like you can in the tables. If someone is concerned about that, how would I respond? I can't think of any pros or cons. It's just a thing that exists.
 * and How long do you need the proposal to be?
 * What do you mean?
 * I mean will you need a week proposal that is on the Proposals page and attract more attention or a two week proposal that is on the page which would be most effected by the proposal and the other bestiaries linked on it but being less of an attention than on the Proposal page?
 * A week.
 * Do you think you'd be able to put together the proposal for me when everything is ready? I don't feel confident enough to get all the information across clearly in a formal way and everything. -- 00:57, 20 November 2016 (EST)
 * I think you should do it. You are the one making the changes to Color Splash bestiary and you doing it will help make the proposal stronger since you know what exactly you're doing. I get somewhat of an idea by just looking. You will do just fine. You can use what you gave me and The RPG Gamer and modify it a little bit. And if you have any more questions, please wait until I am back on this wiki late tomorrow. 01:09, 20 November 2016 (EST)

Okay, here's the start of my proposal. Please give me feedback on the discussion page there, tell me what else I need to add because I feel like I can rely on you to help me do this. Like should I add what I've put on your talkpage for the proposal?-- 23:24, 21 November 2016 (EST)