Talk:New Super Mario Bros. Wii

Powers Section
It's nice to have a power-up section, but I don't think we should say "Fire Mario" considering you can play as Luigi and Toad as well. "Fire Flower", "Penguin Suit" and the likes should do it. - 16:05, 2 June 2009 (EDT)


 * Suits? could it be a SMB3 Remake??? Mrsdaisyluigi seems a bit wierd.
 * No. A remake would stay true to the original. This game doesn't resemble SMB3 at all, just because it has some suits in it. - 17:19, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
 * How is it nescius?

Wait, you can be in a penguin suit? Can you hyperlink me a video from youtube that shows you. --Superjump4 12:36, 2 August 2009 (EDT)Superjump4

Koopalings
i found a screenshot online which could mean the koopalings could fainally return. http://i43.tinypic.com/rqvfxz.jpg

Morton? Sweet, so, seeing Morton... Then there'll probably be Larry, Iggy, etc... But, will they still have Bowser Jr.?
 * Magik I hope so.

The Koopalings are back!!!??? I. Am. Freaking. Sold. User:Majora999

Here is a video that shows the fight against Morton (better detail than in the other video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NuJEBgS_o

After being defeated, he jumps away just like Bowser Jr. in NSMB. --Grandy02 15:54, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

Why in the world did they add two Toads as players 3 & 4 instead of Wario and Waluigi? Skeppio 14:30, 12 June 2009 (GMT +10)
 * Because all characters have the same gameplay, so their bodies have the same shape. Wario is too big and Waluigi is too curvy to fit into the regular pattern. - 11:28, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Wario fitted in fine in Super Mario 64 DS with only minor gameplay differences and Waluigi is thin and would weigh about the same as Mario & Luigi anyway. Besides, Mario and Luigi have always played slightly differently. Why the laziness now? Also, as a side note, Toads have a much greater body shape difference to Mario& Luigi than Wario & Waluigi do. Skeppio 22:30, 28 July 2009 (GMT +10)
 * Is this from photobucket/Imageshack? 18:17, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

Hey, I just had an idea, you know how Luigi jumps higher and has worse traction than Mario, well what if the two Toads have similar concepts, like in SMB2.

Larry Koopa Video
This video features Mario and Luigi fighting Larry Koopa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLXIhpZeNco

--Grandy02 09:36, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
 * That's good additionial confirmation. The battle seems to have the same structure as the Bowser Jr. battles in NSMB. - 10:37, 17 June 2009 (EDT)


 * It reminds moar to SMB3 because Larry (and other possible Koopalings) carries a magic rod... :o

A better quality of the video, not just showing the fight, but the whole level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoeGeHl1mg

It looks like as if Larry has a blue shell now. Well, Morton's shell doesn't seem to be gray anymore, either. --Grandy02 09:55, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Maybe Koopalings can switch shells if they're tired of the old shell's color. User:Lemmy Koopa Fan

I hope bowser jr. is in this game also. And isn't Mortan's nickname Bigmouth? --Superjump4 19:51, 31 July 2009 (EDT)Superjump4

Bigmouth was Morton's name in the old cartoon series.--fawfulfury65 22:40, 31 July 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65

Which Holiday?
Which 2009 Holiday Is Going To come Out? Please Reply!!!!!Elmopedia89 20:30, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
 * Please direct all conversation not relating to the improvement of this article to the forum. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * "Holiday" is the American term for the Christmas holidays. - 07:39, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

Toads
A while ago I heard that the blue and yellow toads names were changed to Yvan (pronounced Ivan) and wolley (pronounced wally). I think we should change the names in the article but I'm not sure if these names are fake or not.--Fawfulfury65 09:01, 20 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
 * Sounds quite random. Only add names when you find a proper source for them. - 09:05, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

If I remember, I think I saw that on IGN when the people were guessing the names for the Toads, unless you found some source that offically gave the Toads a name. -RedFire Mario
 * Those names were made up by IGN. Not official. --Grandy02 09:58, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Yea. That was the IGN thing I was talking about. Those names are false Fawfulfury. -RedFire Mario

Spin jump
It says that Mario's spin jump returns in the article but I don't know where that info came from. I need more proof.--Fawfulfury65 19:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)fawfulfury65
 * Check out gameplay videos like this one and you can clearly see and hear players do spin jumps. They look a bit similar to the Star Spins in Galaxy. - 09:52, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes in the videos it shows Mario doing a spin jump to counter-attack an attack from a cloud enemy.

Release Date
I found from my nearest gamestop store that NSMBwii and SMG 2's release dates. Are they offical? NSMBWii is for 11/2/09 and SMG 2 is for 1/1/10. So can we put it up?


 * We should wait for a confirmation of that. - 18:47, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
 * 1/1/10 looks generic, hennes not. Lysdexia 05:52, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Mariodsi:I heard on a youtube video some Nintendo staff told me Bowser is in the game.


 * The game will follow the traditional storyline of Princess Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser. Doesn't that confirms Princess Peach and Bowser are in the game? Javier12345 19:35, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Miyamoto confirmed it in an interview. - 08:17, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

Release date November
Play-Asia states it to be released this November here, possibly meaning the holiday could be Thanksgiving. Edit: Amazon says it will be released December 31, 2009 for Canada. --MechaWave 20:42, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, So did GamersPro.～～Mario240

The Toads' Names
IGN reveals the Toads' have actual names. Wolley is Yellow Toad, and Yvan is Blue Toad. --MechaWave 14:36, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

wrong, those are the fans opinions on what the names should be, read the entire thing

Some More Enemies To Add
I just watched a video of nsmb wii at e3 and in the mountain stage there are tiny goombas, they jump around randomly and get knocked of the screen when mario touches them


 * Give us a link to the video by typing link title inserting the page's title and a title for the link like video.

Toad's appearance
A trivia says "This is Toad's first playable appearance in a Mario platformer since Super Mario Bros. 2. " I don't think it's correct because SMB2 had Toad the character, but these two are just generic Toads. - 13:44, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

Box-Art?
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/detail.gsp?image=http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/11/13/00/02/02/1113000202915_500X500.jpg&product_id=12509589&iIndex=1&isVariant=false&corpCard=false&type=-9223372036854775808

Could this be the box art?


 * Shouldn't it say "NTSC" on the box somewhere? All PAL games have "PAL" on the front of the cover next to the Nintendo logo. - 15:50, 18 September 2009 (EDT)


 * It's official boxart, and no, that applies to PAL games only.


 * Are you sure?,Nintendo hasn't say any about that,And the ESBR Logo are a little short...We need More Proof.--MATEOELBACAN 19:31, 21 September 2009 (EDT)


 * I sent them a mail, so, let's wait and see how they respond. -- Skawo93

On the other hand, it's pretty unlikely that Wal Mart mocks up their own fake box art. - 13:55, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Hmm..I think that we must wait for their respond (It could be Placeholder),before that we must keep the logo..,and in a part of the link it says "isVariant=false". --MATEOELBACAN 16:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Nintendo responds:

"To tell you the truth, I don't know if that's the official box art for the game. However, as you may already know, the game is due to be released sometime before the end of 2009. No doubt, the official art will be revealed before then." (And then usual copy-paste stuff)

So, yeah, it doesn't confirm or deny anything...skawo93

Yeah! Those people that answer E-mails at Nintendo can't help that much because they don't have that information yet. I think the cover is real, because of the new artwork of Luigi and the good background. I think we can keep the Box art on the article, but not yet at the top. If the cover art turns out to be fake we can always replace it. I also want to say that the logo of New Super Mario Bros. Wii is made by me to look almost exactly the same as the original logo. I made this logo to act as a stand-in until the game will be released. If somebody finds an official version of the logo (with a bit of quality), please replace the logo.

Well,keep the logo and leave that boxart in the section Box-Art and we shold wait for more information--MATEOELBACAN 20:54, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

A higher res boxart has been released. Image:3badc537.jpg

Okay, but how do you know if it's the official one? Skawo93 13:15, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

The boxart is on Nintendo.com so it is 100% official!
 * It could be temporary boxart used for promotional reasons. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

I think it isn't temporary. And if a newer updated box appears, we can reupload it.

I also agree and have evidence. If you go to this link, you'll see that the boxes for games like SMG2 and Metroid: Other M have TEMP (temporary) on the lower-right corner, but this game's box does not.

Well,this is the official Box Art but maybe Nintendo could change it some later..--MATEOELBACAN 21:35, 2 October 2009 (EDT)

Highly unlikely. But, when I visited the EU Nintendo site, the New Super Mario Bros. Wii cover was still unknown. So European cover is unknown for now.  Now something different. The North American cover of New Super Mario Bros. Wii seems to be based on the Japanese cover of New Super Mario Bros. for DS and not the American. Most of the Japanese DS game cases are black, but the Japanese game cases of NSMB were yellow instead. This was not the case with the other versions of NSMB. In North America and Australia the case was still black and in Europe still transparent. Will the New Super Mario Bros. Wii case be red instead of white? And if so, will it only count for the Japan or also for the other regions? No information about this jet.
 * You called it Arend, the European cover is confirmed to have a red case. - 14:05, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Yoshi's Sounds
I found a video and in the first 3 seconds, you hear the SMW noise when Mario gets on the yellow Yoshi.
 * It's true but how does this help the article? - 07:06, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
 * You're right, it's probably just a placeholder.

Demo Play
Hey, on GameFAQs there's a topic called something like "Dang, this game won't play itself." It explains what demo play actually turned out to be in the link. Seems sort of useful.

New Trailer Bros. Wii
A new version of the E3 trailer was released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIE6IOey_Rw

Koopalmier 01:50, 5 October 2009 (EDT)


 * I just saw that like 1 hour ago. It's cool, I must have it!--

AWSOME MUST HAVE NSMBW!!!

Tons of infos
http://kotaku.com/5374669/new-super-mario-bros-wii-preview-all-the-modes-all-the-chaos Yay, Bowser Jr. Koopalmier 01:43, 6 October 2009 (EDT)


 * now lets see... EPICNESS!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait now! these new features are awesome and well riding a Bone Rollercoaster thingy makes it more EPIC than any game EVA! EPICNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W00T
 * Thank you for the info. I think it's a good thing that Bowser Jr. has been confirmed. Hopefully, this game will solve the question whether we can call him a Koopaling or not, since they're all finally going to appear in one game. (no, please don't make a discussion out of this now.)- 05:43, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

User:Koopamadness on a site they say word 2 will be a dezert(yust like orginal) i hope its true

Red replaced by Pink?
I got a feeling that Nintendo replaced the Red Yoshi by a pink one (I don't like that!). If I see the new box art, the Blue Toad is riding a Pink Yoshi, while in the original artwork, it was first a Red one. Plus, in that new trailer where Nintendo made improvements, I see instead of a Red Yoshi a Pink one

Maybe they only added the Pink Yoshi,I don't think they erased the Red Yoshi from the game.--MATEOELBACAN 15:50, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Most likely they recolored the original artwork. The original one has a Red Yoshi jumping, but in the box-art, it seems like they edited the original one's feet to look like it's on the ground and recolored it. It doesn't mean they replaced it, though. Many box-arts feature things not actually in the game. --MechaWave 17:57, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

IGN Handson!
Lots off new info! Such as the Mini Mushroom will return, and a Ice Flower as a new power up.

Charmander

Bowser Jr.
I see Junior was added to the Enemies list. Source, if any? 16:39, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
 * The source for Junior's appearance in the game is next to his entry in the Characters list. But that source doesn't confirm him as an enemy you fight in-game. - 16:52, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
 * He is an enemy, as cited by a different source (it's at the bottom of the post.) It also says it was noticeable to see Iggy and Roy atop of their respective castles. World 1 is Larry, World 2 is Roy, and Iggy is World 3. As another note, Kamek appears in the game as well. --MechaWave 18:00, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Wait a sec, Iggy on a ball? They don't even show a image of Iggy! It sounds more like Lemmy, and they showed Lemmy from SMB3, not Iggy, unless Lemmy is now Iggy, but that would be odd, won't it?
 * Well, the three artworks at the site even show Larry, Roy, and Lemmy. It's likely that they mixed Lemmy and Iggy up somehow. - 08:06, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I think it's just an image for the readers. If Roy is in-between the castles, they couldn't have gotten mixed up. If they did, one way or another, they're both at either world 1 or world 3. On top of that, it makes me hint Bowser Jr. will be the Koopaling for world 8 castle, along with the rest of them next to Bowser, or in a different castle in relation to Bowser. --MechaWave 10:00, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
 * That was me, I saw a Gonintendo article saying he was in it. The DK Fan


 * @Mechawave: That might possibly be true.--

NSMBW Interview
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/today-on-the-spot/?tag=topslot%3btitle%3b2

Starts at 19:45. Looks like with the ice power ups if you blast enemies under water they float up. You also see some new enemies. They say that some suits will return. You also see the world map.

Scans
   note i didnt find these she did: http://supercaterina.deviantart.com/

This is very good information. Good finding Kaialone and Super Caterina. Here are some things I noted.
 * Pow-Blocks return.
 * Like Super Mario Bros. 2 USA, Mario and Co. can grab things and throw them.
 * Propeller Suit got a different look. Originally, it was just a P with a propeller, but now it's a mushroom with a propeller. I think they will call it a Propeller Mushroom.
 * Artwork of the Koopalings including Bowser Jr. and Mario and Co.
 * The Koopalings kidnap Princess Peach by hiding themselves in a cake.
 * The Ice Flower is shown on this scans. No Penguin Suit is mentioned. Maybe they deleted the suit in flavor of the flower, but I don't think so.
 * Larry is battled in a different location than in the e3 demo.
 * Some Koopalings look a little different than in Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World.
 * Airships appear and a Koopa Clown Car Jr.?
 * Just like Super Mario Galaxy, spins can activate some switches.
 * Boo’s look transparent in this game and Banzai Bill's apear.
 * The overworld looks a lot like in New Super Mario Bros.
 * Japanese release date is December 3th.

i noticed that every Koopaling now seems to have a unique shell-colour

Yeah, I noticed that too. Also an interesting thing to note: I once red on a Dutch website that New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to be one of the most challenging Mario platformers, but with the new Super Guide it should be possible for everybody to beat the game.

i cant wait till the game comes out XD well i dont know japanese but if anyone know japanese it woild be nice if he or she translates the new info.I wonder if Nintendo is going to treat the koopalings as Bowsers kids or if theyre going to be super mean and treat them like minions

Woow... Iggy got a real makeover. Probaly because of his hair was almost identical with Lemmys...

Does anyone notice that Iggy is way taller now.

...and skinnier


 * Is Iggy the one with the green hair?
 * Yes. They might have changed the design so that all Koopalings have a unique appearance. Their shell colours have been changed as well. --Grandy02 08:56, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

Lemmy Battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqGpk3HU9YI

This must mean that the boss of world 3 is Lemmy! They say that he is on a ball and the field is ice, so it can't be Iggy!

"Earlier" boxart
In the logos and boxart section the is an image of the boxart and in the caption it says ""Earlier boxart" or something like that, but it's the same as the boxart right now. So, why is it called the "earlier boxart" when it's the same as the "current" boxart?

It is almost the same, but it has only English text on it. The current has English, French and Spanish. Also the Earlier boxcover has the ESRB RP logo instead of E.

Super Skills movie
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/games/wii/super_skills_movie_14800.html This video will show some items, levels, tricks to get more lives etc. Edit: The same movie is also on the American site.

Special Edition?
These pictures are from GoNintendo:


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I couldn't find any info on these. - 17:50, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
 * What's that thing on top of the game in the 3rd picture? Also, I think I heard of there being a special edition for this game, but it could have been another game that I heard about.
 * Isn't Japan supposed to debut new Wiimote colors with the game? The 3rd image sure looks Wiimote-shaped at the top. 18:00, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
 * The first picture clearly shows a cover with a PEGI symbol, and the pictures are supposedly from a British gaming site. Though I still wasn't able to find GoNintendo's blog post on this topic. - 18:08, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZYPIGNYD9E

We can also see the koopalings' new shell colors. Also it looks like Morton is now the biggest koopaling now.

I've uploaded the Intro! It's really funny =P!

The intor is so funny and it explains how The Penguin Suit and Propeller Shroom got into the world. Although i went and watched it on youtube because IGN is slow

North American Box?
Does this picture say enough? The North American box also has a red Wii frame. But on the website of Nintendo America, the show the box with a white frame and another with a red frame. I say we keep the boxcover we have now on top of the page and if a newer version comes up, we reupload it.
 * Yes, I noticed that a while ago and put it in the article already. - 12:43, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I uploaded the real box art with red frames, but somebody replaced it with its white-framed one. I say we change it back. --MechaWave 17:50, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

No I think it should stay the same because we aren't exactly sure. If the red frame is seen in other wesites such as Walmart.com or Gamestop.com then we should put it on.
 * Why? That's an awful reason. It's going to be sold in stores with red frames, the official site has red frames for its box art, Amazon has it, Game Trailers has it, etc. Walmart still has the old version of the box art. When the box art was released, no one knew it would have red frames until the picture above was released. --MechaWave 18:28, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

Ok now that there's more websites that show the red frame so that should be added.

Ice Bro
In teh enmeies it says a Hammer Bro with a light blue shell that shoots snowballs. they are in a picture down the bottom and are called "Ice Bro". shouldnt we change it? I would change it but i cant somehow?
 * It's a conjectural name (but I'm not doubting it's its official name). I personally think we should just merge all the sub-species of Hammer Bros. --MechaWave 09:53, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

More information
While Nintendo Power said the Nunchuck can be used in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the Official Nintendo Magazine confirms the Nunchuck can't be used. Here are some interesting pages over New Super Mario Bros. Wii by the Official Nintendo Magazine. They answer questions about the game fans asked them.   

EDIT: The game does support the Nunchuck. The Official Nintendo Magazine said the made a error in their report. Use the control stick to walk, A to jump and B to sprint.

Daisy, Wario, Toadette Trivia proof
"The magazine claims that Wario, Daisy, and Toadette will also be in the game. However, the official website says that there aren't any more characters. The statement that they would be in is most likely a joke, as lots of people ask for them even if they know no more characters will be in." Is this part of the trivia even true and worth placing on the trivia for now when they said no other characters are in? Pichufan93


 * It may most likely be a cameo appearnce.--


 * They might have something to do with the 4 extra bosses!


 * Four...extra bosses? i haven't heard about that? Do you know details?--


 * On these pages

   One of them says that there is 20 bosses and there is two bosses for each world, World 1-7 are the Koopalings fought twice and World 8 is most likeley Bowser Jr. and Bowser. That makes 16 and there is 4 left. If it isnt on these, I red it on something else that i cant remember.


 * I see, hopefully there are cameo appearances from past bosses, y'know like Wart and Smithy, and also did you see the look of Thwomps on link number 11...they look...weird...--


 * I think they only look weird when they are rising upwards


 * The middle one! O_e...Hopefully these are a sub-species because they look more metallic than rocky.--


 * The Middle one is rising otherwise it would look like the ones on the sides of it.


 * Yeah, I'm just stating that the spikes and the body look kinds more metallic than usual.--


 * Click on the picture and a bigger one will come up and they look EXACTLY the same

i think that petey pirana & king boo will be 2 of the secret bosses

maybe even gomboss/mega goomba mecha bowser maybe, very unlikely

How does having four more bosses prove that Daisy, Wario, and Toadette are in this game? Also, in the Japanese version of Super Mario Bros. 2 there are hidden worlds to get if you don't use warp pipes and I believe earlier that Shigeru Miyamoto said that there is something special for people who don't use the super guide mode in NSMBWii. That special thing could be two extra worlds- which can have four more bosses.


 * I never thought of it that way...Youre most likely right! :)


 * Also note that Super Mario World had hidden bosses. In some ghost houses, by finding a secret exit, Mario had to fight a Big Boo and some bonus fortresses had a Reznor as boss.

WORLD 9
Nintendo Week slipped the secret! They started a file from World 9. They didn't show any footage from it, but still. Skawo93 14:24, 2 November 2009 (EST)