User talk:Stooben Rooben



Merry Christmas


Well, here's your Christmas surprise! I know its pretty shabby, but I'm proud of it and hope you like it (if you don't, feel free to tell me). The quality sucks, but I may scan these pics in the future. Merry Christmas and Laters!
 * Whoa, that's fantastic! Thanks! :D 16:27, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Merry Christmas!!!!! 09:31, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks, the very same to you! 16:27, 26 December 2008 (EST)

^o^
-,^

Collapsible table (now this will work)
Hey stoob, recently I found a short code for making templates collapsible by just adding the determined class instead of using the long and tricky code that I created. If this works as expected, we can prevent such glitch that some articles have - where the showhide extention didn't work :D You can visit my User:Coincollector/test zone to see the rest of the info I had found ;]

Mah boi
Merry Christmas! :D □R.O.B. 128□ 00:57, 26 December 2008 (EST)


 * No p-oblem :) Remember, if you want to make a table collapsible just add the class as "collapsible" (content shown) or "expandable" (content hiden) with no effort... :P

Can you block he/she has about four sockputtets so far.

Hey St00by, I thought you were only gonna come on in the afternoon lol. oh but anyway, im thinking that KrackoYoob 14-64 is Sonic Rocks, CheckUser him. His IP ranges are all in 189.13.x.x, also im guessing he has a proxy server cause he later changed it to 201 or something like that.


 * 1) You're welcome. -_^
 * 2) Congrats on becoming a Global Moderator on the Mario Wiki Forums. =) 22:33, 27 December 2008 (EST)

Collapsible Gallery
Hey Stooben I fixed your template. Also I have used it on Toad's page. (BTW I am sorry for not asking permission first before using or fixing your template.) =|
 * Hey St00by, how are you doing? Have a nice Christmas? Oh, and when do you need my Fake News section?

All crap. Really. Oh well I'll keep trying. 09:34, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Fair Enough
... and strangely, that's all I have to say. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you just deleted that GIF from your japoota, but all that matters is that I made something in return.

Umakuittara! Hai tacchi! Hekonjattemo motodoori!

Hello?
 * I'm trying to access your talk page, but I can't for some reason. :\ Anyway, what's up? How was your Christmas? ...And, uh, what did you say before? Because I couldn't translate it. D: 23:24, 30 December 2008 (EST)

hi
listen to this.
 * out of the 5 openings to the series, the 3rd one (the one you heard) is my favorite. i like because of the "action" feel the music gives it. the 4th opening is my 2nd favorite, because it is pretty fast pace, especially at the chorus.
 * Here. I just listened to it right before you sent me the message. XD just note that by "fast pased" i mean that the tempo is fast, not so much the music and lyrics.
 * That one's not bad either. I still like the first one more, though. lol 20:52, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * same here. btw, you should look [MarioWiki:Changing username|here].
 * Thanks. now New Years Celebration Music!
 * No problemo. That's what 'crats do. :) BTW, how much more time until 2009 where you live? I've still got 4 hours and 40 minutes to go. 21:24, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * 3 hours and 29 minutes.
 * Omg u is frum teh futures. :O 21:34, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * haha. very funny..
 * Lol, sarcasm FTW. 21:39, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * i no ryte.
 * ya u no rite 21:53, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * Check out my Userpage.
 * Whoa, looks like you put a lot of work into it. Kudos. 22:14, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * Did you like the if Peach was a last boss image?
 * Yeah. I thought it was funny how she was riding a Banzai Bill. :P 22:32, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * And throwing bombs. But srsly, they should do that. I have the scenerio:

Mario just beat a flower-like boss. Peach thanks mario for saving her, but tells Mario she hates him for hurting a flower. Peach jumps into a hole, and comes out riding a Banzai Bill. Then the fight stars.

What do you think? BTW, this would be the battle theme.
 * Not a bad scenario. But man, Mario's getting hard way to go. D: The theme seems oddly fitting too. BTW, go here plz. 22:41, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * What do you mean by "Mario's getting a hard way to go"?. BTW, if you want to know, I can tell you how to beat her.
 * I meant that not only did he fight to save Peach, but now he has to fight her as well! lolrawdeal Sure, I'd like to know how to beat her. Maybe you could make this into a game on Fantendo or Userpedia! Maybe even UnMario. (BTW, thanks for voting.) 22:51, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * lol, if I knew how to make ROM Hack games I'd probably make it. XD Ok here's how you beat her:

The pit Peach jumped into is split into 2 by a wall. You have to chase her into the wall. You must hit the wall 5 times on each side. Here are her attacks: The first 2 hits, she just chases you. After the 3rd hit, she throws bombs. After the 5th his, the Banzai bill breathes fire. After the 6th hit, it swoops down at you. After the 7th hit, Peach throws a series of bombs and then attempts to jump on you. After the 10th hit, the wall breaks and Peach falls in the pit a final time. She gets buried by rubble, and the banzai bills are destroyed, and the fight is over.
 * Whoa, epic. Sounds challenging. So, what happens to Peach? Does she die, or what? 23:08, 31 December 2008 (EST)
 * Well, when Mario goes back to Toad Town, he sees Peach and she asks Mario where he'd been the all that time. Mario said he was saving Peach, and Peach said she was never kidnapped, so the identity Mario fought is unknown.
 * Awesome. :O 23:27, 31 December 2008 (EST)

"PM2 sprites"?
Unfortunately the sprite for PM2 are disassembled pieces. It's kind a fuzzy memory but every sprite pieces is posted somewhere in some forum. Maybe MFGG. Sadly, I think it disappeared. I even can't find the disassembled pieces of Hooktail I once found. :( I'll try searching it further... for now, I have other stuff to do. Lots of ideas inside my head each day, I can't figure it out what to do! ;_; Help me?

Hey, speaking of images; I saw some of the gif images that you made in the wiki, the animated ones. Do you know a program about it or is it just a trial like shareware...? Another opportunity to have moar images! :3

The Grox
I need you to unban me from the Userpedia forums so I can set that idiot straight. He honestly believes such bullsh*t is true, ROB being cheap, every he sucks against being a scrub, and characters he sucks with terrible. □R.O.B. 128□ 00:15, 1 January 2009 (EST)

I tried telling him that high tier characters are not to be labeled as "cheap" by scrubs such as himself, and he replies rudely by calling me a liar. Then we go through a n00by quote editing argument and he loses his temper and has the audacity to refer to one of his housemates as a "pro", making me look stupid, and completely stealing my words, adding his own faggotry. So I give a long, reasonable reply telling him exactly what a "scrub" and a "n00b" is. Being angry that he was outsmarted by a 15 year old, he bans me, with this suspension message to my e-mail address: "Learn to debate without flaming and without pulling shit out of your ass. ^_^"

I never even flamed at that basement dwelling troll! He's finding ways to make me look bad! I have a VERY short temper, and I had to take in his insults (despite how weak and pathetic they were) and reply as calmly as possible. He needs to get demoted. Srsly? Banning me over a game? What a complete idiot.... □R.O.B. 128□ 00:29, 1 January 2009 (EST)

I can't. Being that I'm banned, I can't forward it to you in any way. =( I assure I'm telling nothing else but the solid truth. You have to believe me! □R.O.B. 128□ 02:24, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Dokiri! Majiku Pawaa!
Hi! Listen to this please.
 * Epic. 02:04, 1 January 2009 (EST)
 * What's really epic is that i'm going to have an all-nighter tonight! :D
 * Cool! Just curious: are you gonna be on every day again? :D 21:49, 1 January 2009 (EST)
 * I'll try. ;)
 * Awesome! 23:58, 1 January 2009 (EST)
 * Check out the poll chosing page thing. I put a poll on there.
 * Look^^
 * Mkay. 22:09, 2 January 2009 (EST)
 * You should look again, I've edited it.

Happy New Year!!
Happy New Years!!!!!!

Hello!
Thanks for the welcome! ^^ I have some pretty good experience with wiki editing... I was a beuracrat of a Club Penguin Wikia but I left because I am 13 and rather old for that game, but luckily, Mario games are all ages. So I starteded editing again because I needed editing. I was itching to edit. ITCHING. So expect great contributions from me :) ]] 23:42, 1 January 2009 (EST)

RE: Edits
Thanks! Now just imagine what that number would be if I was actually fully active all these years. o_O

And you're on the road to that milestone, and at a much quicker pace than me! You should be proud of all that you have accomplished in such a short period of time!! =D --

Haha. Rambling is good! Yeah...I think we are probably one of the most successful video game wikis out there, especially for a non-Wikia wiki!! (I think our independence is one of our strongest qualities.) Hell, we were even cited in a published book. However, there is a lot to be done - our articles are not always complete or always of the highest quality writing. I look at some of my past articles and realize I only touched the surface of a topic. There is so much information buried in Mario games, especially newer ones. One random comment from an NPC may open up a wealth of content. Now I am trying my hardest to record as much as possible while I play. Of course now I don't have the time to get my notes into the wiki while also patrolling new edits and trying to manage the edits made to pages in my watchlist. So much to do. Blah. Oh well, I'll do my best (and hopefully not get burnt out from it). =) --

My ultimate hope is that someday, somehow, the Super Mario Wiki will be as highly regarded and complete as Wookiepedia, the Star Wars wiki. There is so much information I never even knew about Star Wars on that site! Although Star Wars may have more media products, it is very similar to Mario in that both are gigantic franchises that have branched off into so many different types of media and indeed into other franchises. Mario is a huge undertaking, but I think we are slowly but surely getting there.

All the PMTTYD articles? Good luck with that. Yeah, I usually just pursue my own independent projects based on my mood at the time (which sometimes results in me abandoning projects). I think that helps keep me sane, as I can pick and choose what I want to work on. If I don't finish everything, at least I got something down, which is better than nothing.

And I probably won't make any major edits to the Mario series article, but I will likely check it from time to time to make sure everything is accurate. ;) --

Well, hopefully new contributors will actually make positive edits...which often doesn't happen. A lor of new users don't make helpful edits. I try to monitor the recent changes, as well as my own watchlist, but I don't catch everything. I wish every article could be watched by at least one user on that wiki. That may allow us to keep good articles good, instead of letting devolve into poorly written articles over time. Oh well. Hopefully time will have the opposite effect, improving the quality of our articles.

If I had more time on my hands I would definitely try to tackle an entire game...probably Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (best Mario game EVER!). But alas I do not have the time to play and take notes on an entire game at this point in time...if ever again. Haha.

And ick. It should be about the same if not better. I hate when stuff like that happens. And yeah, I am more of a "fictional universe" guy, so I don't really like editing articles about games and series and all that "out of universe" content. =D --

Rudolph ate the Wi-Fi before Flying Off...
Yeah, that GIF you can just copy the link from this page onto your Userpage - should be easy. It is a privilege to have my stuff on your highly-viewed page! (speaking of which, my User page has a pretty high view-count now... I wonder if the Imidge of da Week attracts people...?). Oh yeah, forums. Did you know I don't like forums? I find them weird. But I did read your response a while ago while sneaking onto the computer, didn't have time to reply. I'll do so when I get a chance. (soon, I hope)

Nah, my Christmas wasn't bad... it just wasn't as special as many previous years. My best was 2004, as it got PM:TTYD and Pikmin 2. Oh, and also 2007, as I got SMG and SPM. I got Wario Land: The Shake Dimension (seriously, why does the game have different names in different regions? You don't suppose they found "Shake It!" to sound rude or something? o_O), and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time. Both are very challenging, so I should be busy for a decent time. I doubt I'll ever 100& complete Wario. On Xmas Day, I took my DS to the place we went to - with a maximum of 35 "relatives" and assorted strangers at any one time. I just sat in a chair in the corner and played the Pokemon game the whole day, barely hearing the sound even at full volume. That was my Christmas. Bleck, I don't want to think how long it is until next year's. Way too long. Oh, and the one thing I didn't get which I really badly wanted was Wi-Fi. I was hoping to be able to Brawl against you and other Wiki people by now... :( Well, my birthday is the 21st, so not much time to decide what I want. Maybe I can convince my dad to get Wi-Fi then?

So, how was your 25th December?

I also got a pen with a wobbly wombat on it. And a big book of insane true facts and stories - possibly the most mind-blowing book ever. And other miscellaneous items.

And here's my new sig with 2 of your awesome sprites! (added glowing edges to avoid merging in with certain pages) Oh, and I'm about to add your art of me to my page, but I had some technical problems trying to shrink it. (the full size would be way to big on my page)

9000th Article
Bro I made article number 9000 :D! BTW hope you win director election.--Luigibros2 14:20, 4 January 2009 (EST)

I'm not rushing you to reply to my message above, but just asking if you could delete the image that was in my old sig, please. Don't need it no more.

FA Nomination
Hey Stoobs! I thought I'd let you know that the Geno nomination is currently not featured because of one single oppose. Since you support the article, would you mind reviewing the oppose and possibly vote for its removal? Thanks! PS: LOL, like my generic, polite message? :P
 * Lol, it was sweet. :P Anyway, I voted for its removal, so the article should be featured now. :D BTW, thanks for supporting the Gus article! 23:10, 5 January 2009 (EST)

My Anime
...I just thought of a really scary episode for my anime.
 * Hello?
 * I hit save page, but my computer froze up. I guess it didn't save. So, what's it about? 23:07, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * Well, in the 1st season, there is this crazy killer person that gets destroyed. However, she gets revived and attacks a concert that the good guys are at in the episode and, yeah, I think you get it.
 * Yeah, I kinda do. :P I forget...was this something you had on Userpedia? 23:20, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * That was a different stoary. :P Anyway, I g2g. See ya tomorrow.
 * Oh, okay. :P Ciao. 23:39, 5 January 2009 (EST)

What Time is it?
For me its 12:20 a.m. I usually dont see you online about this time. -User:Tabuuownsall132x2

Time
Alright just wondering -Tabuuownsall132x2

That's no problem, mate. I'm patient. I understand you are very busy with everything... sounds tough.

alloys in ssbb
Hey, my younger bro was playin 100 man brawl, and I swear, i saw a pink, not red but pink, alloy version of king dedede. unfortunately, he was playing as captain falcon and the mystery alloy didnt last 2 seconds. any info? YourBuddyBill 18:09, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * Huh, I've never heard of a pink Dedede. Perhaps it was a game hack. 22:54, 7 January 2009 (EST)

oh yeah, daily event update: in industrial tech class the disc sander got my finger, and it only started hurting 10 minutes later! :O it still hurt though. :C YourBuddyBill 18:12, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * Wtf that's ugly. :( 22:54, 7 January 2009 (EST)

one more thing, what happened to the fake news? YourBuddyBill 18:25, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * Well, it's been passed around A LOT the past few months, so it's taking a break until next month when takes it over.  22:54, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Did you know: Stooben Rooben is a pirate goomba 20:48, 7 January 2009 (EST)

I have a question!
I was wondering, on your User Page, how do you put in those special 'scrolling' lists that your have all your contributions in. I would like to use a similar format on my page. Thanks!
 * Sure, just put this on your page:


 * That'll show all your main contributions. If you have any more questions, just gimme a holler. 22:24, 7 January 2009 (EST)

The 'Shroom
I'm not one to assume, but it is likely that you will be the next 'Shroom Director. If so, I recommend creating new sections for fan submissions, like fan fiction created by users on the wiki. Users could submit their works to whoever was in charge of such a section, and the highest quality work could be "published" in the 'Shroom. Personally, one of the problems I have with the 'Shroom is that a lot of the content replicates information you can already find on the wiki. What the 'Shroom should do, in my opinion, is take that "unprofessional" fan energy that is not allowed in our encyclopedic articles and translate it into fun, serious, opionated, interesting etc. content generated by fans about the Mario franchise. The 'Shroom could be an online fanzine of critical fan engagement, instead of a remix of wiki content. --

Yeah. I'm not sure how you would promote fan submissions, but a section or several sections about fan works would be really interesting. We could see how us fans are engaging with Mario, instead of re-describing the "official" line. You personally wouldn't even have to choose the "best quality" fan works, but whoever (be it one person or a couple) was in charge of that section(s) would choose. They could then perhaps give their reasons for selection before or after the fan work, as well as any additional commentary they want to provide. That might help people who are struggling with their fan works improve the quality of their products. Basically, The 'Shroom could become a place where we could actively encourage fan engagement with Mario, something that is not really allowed in our articles.

The Suggestion Box is a good idea. Perhaps it could be wiki-like, where anyone can edit it. Or it could be e-mail based, where suggestions could be submitted to the director and other staff. The "well-written" suggestions could then be published in the next issue, with responses from the director and other editors. Again, this would be to preserve the quality of The 'Shroom. The staff would not have to change the magazine, but could if they believed such changes would be helpful. Again, if changes are made, the letter that caused the change could be published with the editors' response.

Well, I'm not sure what to do about users not making deadlines. But I feel it should be emphasized that The 'Shroom is a commitment - A JOB. Just like a real job, if you fail to make your deadlines, you will most likely get fired. The same should apply to The 'Shroom. The 'Shroom should be much stricter in order to improve its quality. I don't know how that translates into practical policy, but I think editors need to be less relaxed about the whole thing. I think The 'Shroom should be treated like a real company. Not everyone who wants to write for it should be able to. They have to prove they can do the job. While people can submit a request to be a part of The 'Shroom, if they cannot keep up, they should be cut. As such, the Director should not only pick from those who have signed up to write, but also from the pool of other active users on this wiki. The Director should actively recruit users he or she feels are up to the task to write for The 'Shroom (but not to the point of annoyance). The Director could analyze Recent Changes to find users of potential, and ask them to join if he or she feels that their services will help The 'Shroom. Essentially, the Director should not be some passive figure that collects articles, but should be actively recruiting and firing as if they were the manager of a company. --

Well, to be honest, I have been mostly apathetic towards The 'Shroom. However, when I saw the number of votes you have in the director election, and based on your numerous high-quality contibutions to the wiki, I am starting to believe you might be able to turn The 'Shroom around. While the fate of the wiki does not depend on The 'Shroom, the magazine/newspaper/journal does reflect on the wiki, be it positively or negatively. Unfortunately, for the most part I feel it has reflected negatively on the wiki. But with a new year and a fresh start, and hopefully a determined Director (whoever that may be =P), perhaps we can turn The 'Shroom into a high-quality source of Mario fan engagement, just as the wiki is becoming a recognized source of high-quality official Mario information.

That being said, I am somewhat interested in being involved in a fan works section. Perhaps in the next issue we can have a call for papers and submissions, including fiction, such as short stories, chapters, poetry, etc., to non-fiction, such as theoretical speculative essays (like "Who is the Pixl Queen?" or "The Origins of the Koopas") and perhaps even some more "scholarly" essays (like "A Marxist Analysis of Representations of Class in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door"). If I had to actively recruit writers for submissions, I wouldn't want the job. However, if people submitted their own work freely, and there was a decent turn-out, I would be willing to work on selecting and writing responses to high-quality submissions, be it in one section or several sections. Perhaps we will start with one which will grow to more over time with more fan involvement. Perhaps no one will submit anything, and that's no big deal either. Regardless, just know I am mostly willing to help in some capacities, if you would like my assistance. --

PM:TTYD Locations
Today I put all the Japanese names of all the locations in PM:TTYD. YAY FOR BOREDOM!!!
 * ...hello?
 * Kudos! Glad to hear you did that. :D BTW, please remember that it takes a bit for me to respond to my messages since I'm bouncing between 4 wikis and 2 forums that I have to Administrate. o_o Where'd you get all the Japanese names? 22:49, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * 4 wikis? Woah. O_O Here is where I got the Japanese names.
 * Yarly. Here, the Wikia Userpedia, the Referata Userpedia, and UnMarioWiki. Plus the UP and MW Forums, lol. Awesome. TMK is really cool. They always have cool stuff there! 22:56, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * Yeah. If you see me adding anything Japanese, I can pretty much assure you that I got it from there. ;)
 * At least you've got a good source. :P 23:03, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * Out of all Mario themes, the Shadow Peach Battle theme has to be my favorite..
 * orlynao 23:12, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Poll Selection
Hi, St00by! Well, if don't know, I'm Mateus_23 (name change), and I have something to say. I chose you because everybody says you're the nicest user in the Wiki and blah, blah, blah... So, I think we should enforce some new rules in the Poll Selection. Here's a list of them:
 * 1) Repeated polls sholud be DELETED, like this one.
 * 2) If a poll is "losing" with a certain difference of votes (could be 5 or 6, IMO), then it would be deleted too. E.g. a poll has 2 supporters and 8 opposers, so it should be deleted.
 * 3) If a poll is created with a REALLY BAD setup, and if at least two users say that, it should be deleted too.

Well, I hope you read this soon. Have a nice day! 05:54, 8 January 2009 (EST)

I also have a question, about Super Paper Mario: where can I find a Megabite? 08:17, 8 January 2009 (EST)


 * Thanks for the tip, though I already bought a Megabite Catch Card in Fondest Hopes (Flopside). BTW, Steve said that any other Sysop can remove bad polls, so I recommend talking with the other Sysops about it. 10:42, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * Ah, good. Mkay, whenever I get the chance, I'll be sure to inform them. 23:48, 10 January 2009 (EST)

Badges
Mesemerized... Yes... Thank... You... For... That... Just... Doing... My... Mission... All... Glory... To... Hypno... Toad... Lol :P 02:59, 9 January 2009 (EST)
 * w00t ellipsis! Without them, quotes would be "too ... long." 03:10, 9 January 2009 (EST)
 * "Geez ..., ... so... r... r... y." Oh you might want to archive BTW because whenever I try to edit sometimes it says no such section for some weird reason (it tries to edit an uncreated section). 03:18, 9 January 2009 (EST)

http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc334/DonQuixtote/Yamazaki-1.jpg Well, that's good to know. This is annoying me because no one is voting to remove last outdated oppose lol. 04:48, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Holy Crunch... something... O-o
You're on at the same time... ZOMG. What time is it there? Here it's 8.45 PM. I have to be banished from the japoota in a few minutes so my dad can transfer files to my computer in attempt to fix it, as it's totally screwed as I told you... I think. Well, I'll write a full response by the next time I log in.

the fake fake news
hey, stooby, im mad that the fake news stopped running latel, so im making ny own. Do you want to be in an interview, obit, or local news? BTW, how do u make that box thing around the text? rite now im using the format usermessage. Check it out sometime. w/ theinterviewetc., i already asked mdl and "Galactic Metal" aka palkia47. mdl said interview, i asked about what, no reply yet. no reply from palkia either. YourBuddyBill 13:20, 10 January 2009 (EST)

oh wait thats cause palkia, aka galactic metal lost is password. he is currently meta galactic. cn u help him? YourBuddyBill 19:12, 10 January 2009 (EST)

Um St00by you just wrote on his Userpage instead of his talk page.


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PM2 Partners
Who's your favorite?
 * The Yoshi Kid is awesome because of his attitude -- (sarcasm FTW) -- but Bobbery has some really fantastic stats. What about you? 22:44, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * Vivian because her Fiery Jynx move is really useful in battles, Goombella because Her Ralley wink lets you attack twice, Yoshi Kid because he makes you move fast, and Ms. Mowz because her Love Slap move does good damage without using any FP/ (kinda like watt from Paper Mario).
 * Ms. Mowz is awesome. Plus, Vivian hides you from huge attacks. :O Flurrie just creeps me out though. 22:58, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * When I first got the game, my sister took the case and started reading through the instruction guide while I was playing. While she was reading through it, she saw Flurrie's picture and burst out laughing.
 * Flurrie does look ridiculous; I agree. xD She's still creepy though. ._. 23:25, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * She needs to wear a dress or something. I see too much of her.
 * Everyone sees too much of her, lol. 23:46, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * lol. I need to find more Mario Party mini-games that need controls, I think I've finished all the Mario Party 3 mini-games.
 * Try the MP8 and MP5 ones. I think they might be missing 'em. 00:18, 11 January 2009 (EST)