Talk:Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker

Just a question but how do you change the name of a Page? 14:25, 10 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Move it

Controls
There was a part in the trailer that showed the controls for the minecart, and I think we can assume it will have controls like the Captain Toad levels in SM3dW

Is that a Cat Goomba?

 * L'me fix that for ya. And wait for it.....it certainly looks exactly like a cat goomba. --Hiccup (talk) 08:28, 14 June 2014 (EDT)

It's a Goomba with a cat design. Nah, it's not. Peanutjon (talk) 22:30, 14 June 2014 (EDT)

Really? A cat design? Number one, cat goombas are ligit enemies in Super Mario 3d World,Second: there are no designs on enemies.
 * Please sign your comments. Also, "design" could refer to simply the appearance of the enemy. Plus, I think they're being sarcastic. MarioComix (talk) 01:38, 17 June 2014 (EDT)
 * I hope so.Toadbrigade5 (talk) 14:23, 17 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Yes, I am. Peanutjon (talk) 22:54, 22 June 2014 (EDT)

What is that image? I cann't see it by clicking the link

Here's the link --Joshje (talk) 16:27, 19 November 2014 (EST)

Pickaxe
I think we should make a page for it, and just call it pick axe. It can contain info from the Galaxy games as well(BankToad).Toadbrigade5 (talk) 01:41, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
 * It'd be better to create the article for it closer to release date when we have an official name, as well as its function. It could do more than just break blocks.
 * Then we can add to it you realize.


 * Yes, but it's incredibly stupid to create an article on something when barely anything about it is known. It'd be a lot better to wait until all the information is available in this situation.

More artwork here
Here they are: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_news/140620/kinopio/index.html

Is anyone able to get better quality versions of those? BooDestroyer (talk) 19:30, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
 * It's a good idea to upload them 19:41, 27 June 2014 (EDT)

E3 Level Articles
Is it really necessary to have articles for levels at this point? I mean the game was announced at E3 a month ago, isn't it a bit early for articles based on levels that are probably gonna go through lots of changes from now until release?
 * Yeah, levels are necessirary. These are likely to be modified, but modifications can be edited in. Plus, look at it from nintendo's side. If a level is fully functional, like it is in the demo, then why not put it in? I think that these are pretty much assured to be in the game.


 * So be it, I guess my concern was merely the fact that it's a bit early to create articles on levels from a demo. Looking at the E3 demos for both Mario Kart 7 and 8, we never had any of these articles made a few weeks after E3. And not to sound uptight, but I feel assuming these levels will be in the final version is speculation, especially at this point in time. For all we know, some of these levels could be cut from the game, just like that card room area in Paper Mario: Sticker Star or GCN Mario Circuit from Mario Kart DS. Main point is that I still feel like these articles are not necessary at the moment since it's too far from release to be doing stuff like this.

Enemy Section
Edit: Actually nevermind, I just caught that error.

Gallery
Don't you think the gallery is long enough to make an own page?

Release date
In the top of the article it says the game is coming out in Jan. 2015 but it still says Holiday 2014 for NA in the info box. Does this need to be clarified? --Poponana2 (talk) 17:04, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
 * I'm also happy it now has an NA release date! 78.143.168.59 15:34, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

Cat Enemies: Beta?
I think so, and here is my logic: on the train where there are Cat Goombas, there are now similar Flaptors, and the Cat bullet bill was only on box art, but now missle bill is in and functionally identical and Wingo replaces him on box art, I kinda doubt they return. Just two cents. I mean, its not cat themed like 3d world was.

Sad, I kinda liked the way you get around Cat Goombas.Toadbrigade5 (talk) 13:01, 12 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Replies?Toadbrigade5 (talk) 18:26, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Being replaced on the boxart doesn't mean you're cut out from a game. The Cat Bullet Bill was deleted because Wingo was announced: also, Toadette also appeared in the cover (hiting even better she will be playable and Wingo isn't the final boss, there is even an icon for she). For Cat Goombas... well, I didn't watch the whole trailer. Also, they MAY be placeholders for unannounced stuff, but this don't means they're out. I'd be sad
 * But not only were cat bullet bills replaced on box art, they even never appeared in game. Now Missle Bills that work identically are confirmed...Toadbrigade5 (talk) 14:04, 18 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Oh, that may it may highly be a placeholeder in the cover then. Still, Cat Bills work slightly different: don't they always go after the player? Anyway, since it appeared, we can't be sure if it is out.
 * No, Cat bills need to see you first. I think all the cat enemies are beta, since none of them appear in levels anymore. Which rules out the cat bell, in a way. Believe it or not, I thought that that thing would return. Also, is English a second language for you? I noticeded you once wrote "readed" on the Legend of Zelda pack.Toadbrigade5 (talk) 00:15, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

The Dragon Boss
I know I added this in a bit early, maybe that was rash. But to be honest look at the trailer: Toad is definetly riding him and it definetly has level characteristics. I mean, its side scrolling, there are blocks, he might do something akin to Plessie, but after you already beat him up? I mean we can confirm there's more story to this game than Wingo and Toadette. We don't even know what the Toad Brigade are even doing here. Just want to hear what people think. Is this dragon really "evil" afterall?Toadbrigade5 (talk) 19:28, 16 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Right now I think it's too early to say. In the original teaser trailer, when Captain stands on the dragon's head, it felt like it was accidental. But since then a LOT of new information has come out, but not much on the dragon. However, judging by how you make it sound, it seems like the dragon may not be totally evil. But for it's hard to say. MarioComix (talk) 19:36, 16 October 2014 (EDT)

Piranha Sprout similarity
Has anyone noticed the Piranha sprouts shoot nuts or mini rocks at the player like the Deku Scrubs and Octoroks of the Legend of Zelda universe? They even follow the Deku scrubs' attack style: spit a nut then hide.

Mailtoad, not returning?
Okay, I have no proof I confess, but I've seen trailers upon trailers, played demos on demos, and it seems the toad brigade appears in threes only. I have seen this occur in three levels. I'm getting worried, will he return, or is he replaced with Toadette?Toadbrigade5 (talk) 23:31, 4 November 2014 (EST)
 * Still can't be sure, the brigade may still appear as support in various levels. There is no confirm the brigade the brigade is cut.

Toadette questions
Ok, how can we be certain Toadette is playable? I have yet to witness that as I only saw her in the trailer and left to tell my friends. 2nd, is her outfit identical to Captain Toad's outfit? 3rd, is it safe to say this is Toadette's very 1st official alternate outfit to her dress? 'Cause Rosalina's alternate outfit (to my knowledge) is her bike suit.--96.49.137.125 01:32, 7 November 2014 (EST)
 * In fact, we aren't sure, but Toadette is replacing Captain Toad multiple times. It's still a supposition, but it's very likely.
 * Nope. The main difference is her overall outfit being pink and not yellow. There are others too. In the article there are the images one after another.
 * Unless it's revealed to be Captain Toadette, yes, to my knowledge this is her first outfit. She doesn't have a bike outfit.
 * The official North American website has this caption for one of the photos: "Make your way through a multitude of mind-bending microcosms as Captain Toad or Toadette". So I'm sure she's playable. MarioComix (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Possible final.
I just uploaded an image of a boxart that uses the blue sky from the old one, but has Wingo and Toadette from the new. It appears the yellow dots are a place holder in upcoming games: It was on Hyrule Warriors too. I think this might be real, and it was on a certified source.Toadbrigade5 (talk) 21:41, 7 November 2014 (EST)


 * I think it's final too. The one with dots had everything, but the dots were horrible. Just to make sure, what's the source? Nintendo?
 * Nintendo World ReportsToadbrigade5 (talk) 01:26, 9 November 2014 (EST)

no ":" on page's name?
Nintendo's site write this without the ":" signal... should we move it? Also, the logo don't have the double dot
 * Links never have : in them, and I can't find "Captain Toad Treasure Tracker" in that text. And games like BIS which have : in the title doesn't have them in the logo. When the game is released, someone please look at the side of the bix to see if the title has : or not. Also, without : it's a redirect already.
 * I think what Ashley and/or Red is pointing out is that the title of the linked page is "Captain Toad Treasure Tracker for Wii U - Nintendo @ E3", with no colon. However, that's just the E3 site. The game's page on the main site does include the colon in all relevant places (including in the source code). So it looks like they either screwed up on the E3 page or changed their minds between then and now. --Steve470 (talk) 07:03, 9 November 2014 (EST)
 * Maybe in the beta there was no colon, then it got added... the link Ashley gave was outdated (and the other too, but it ha Toadette in the photo). Other than this, yes, it seems it has a colon then.

100 minutes, all of Toadette Chapter, and half of three chapter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuEFxtZwd_I&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ

Good luck users, I gotta go. Toadbrigade5 (talk) 20:06, 12 November 2014 (EST)

Ending featuring Sm3d world's intro
Take a look! Nintendoplayerawesome ( Talk )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB-jj1Kx5UA&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ


 * NIIIIIICE!!! Toadbrigade5 (talk) 21:53, 12 November 2014 (EST)

Small error on the article.
"Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is an upcoming puzzle platform game for the Wii UIt was released...". No dot and space after WiiU. I wish I could edit, but I can only view the source, so I'm requesting it. Gabrielwoj (talk) 23:08, 13 November 2014 (EST)

Minimal Error
The page states that a scene identical to Super Mario 3D World plays while in reality it's the exact same scene with only slightly better graphics and with the ending showing how Captain Toad got into 3D World in the first place. A minimal edit, but the current one is technically false nonetheless.

Should Captain Toadette get her own article?
Should we do this?

16:35, 19 November 2014 (EST)


 * No. She hasn't been confirmed to be anything but toadette. The official adress her as toadette, and she rarely uses headlamp. Not a seperate character. Toadbrigade5 (talk) 21:15, 19 November 2014 (EST)
 * No, since he is just Toadette dressed as an explorer.

I think she should, she is different from the regular toadette. Also, if she DOES get her own page, wouldn't Captain Toad get one too? 57sugoi (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2014 (EST)
 * No, she's just Toadette wearing a different outfit. It would only deserve the same treatment as Peach and Daisy's sport outfits. The reason is the outfit doesn't give Toadette any new powers (therefore not a power-up) and there is only one Toadette. Not to mention official sources don't call her Captain Toadette or anything. MarioComix (talk) 05:12, 29 December 2014 (EST)

First of all, I am new here. I've read this page for a long time, it has even proved useful for me, but until today I haven't registered before.

Now, let's get to the point: I don't think the CTTT version of Toadette is really a separate character, because of there reasons:

1: Toadette in this game has identical abilities instead of a power-up, & in CTTT, she can be finally found in the minecart, where Captain Toad goes in the Sand Kingdom without Toadette.

2: Captain Toad always wears a headlamp. In Treasure Tracker, Toadette rarely uses headlamp. Even with point 1 in effect, if Treasure Tracker's Toadette was a separate character, Toadette would have put her headlamp on before arriving to Shoot Scoot Slopes, where Toadette would eventually have her headlamp on.

3: The word "Captain" from official sources doesn't appear before her name at all (not that including it was necessary anyway), unlike Captain Toad in official sources, making chances of Treasure Tracker's Toadette being a separate character less likely.

4: The Mario series doesn't have a solid continuity anyway. Of course, players can collect only the mandatory stars in Shoot Scoot Slopes, then go to Stumper Sneakaround and immediately go to Battle Tower Blitz to find Captain Toad, but considering how the main plot in CTTT is apparently structured, that doesn't necessarily make it actually official that Treasure Tracker's Toadette is a separate character.

5: The whole point of changing her outfit was to simply promote CTTT (after all, Nintendo wouldn't promote a Wii U game that isn't even planned to include Toadette, like Mario 3D World), not to turn Toadette into Captain Toadette. I'm sure Nintendo doesn't even care about Toads being separate characters from anyone at this point.

At best, that outfit is just a reference to CTTT, or at worst, her outfit is bought from an alternate universe where Super Mario 3D Worls didn't happen and/or the overall events of CTTT didn't exactly unfold as in the game proper. Maybe I'm analysing it too much, but still, it doesn't seem (to me, at least) like "Toadette being Captain Toadette" should be considered "official".

Just think about it.

Gold Draggadon!?!?
Really? Oh boy, to see this. But really. SOURCE??? Toadbrigade5 (talk) 00:13, 21 November 2014 (EST)

In this video there is Gold Draggadon --Sonic98 (talk) 08:56, 21 November 2014 (EST)

Artwork on website
Toadbrigade and Draggadon have artwork, but my computer is going crazy. Can someone get it?Toadbrigade5 (talk) 19:53, 4 December 2014 (EST)
 * Also, Diamond needs to be moved to Super Gem according to that site.Toadbrigade5 (talk) 19:58, 4 December 2014 (EST)
 * And Boo, Piranha Sprout and Mummy Me.

1st Mario series game to not include Mario?
Is this the 1st game to not include Mario as all Mario series games have to have Mario, but this game doesn't.--70.79.246.167 01:10, 7 December 2014 (EST)
 * Mario actually makes a small appearance, but even if he didn't, may I lead you to New Super Luigi U? 01:11, 7 December 2014 (EST)
 * Well, I don't think so, because he appears at the ending 03:37, 7 December 2014 (EST)
 * Both of you are right. In NSLU Mario won't appear at all, the cap though appears. And as Billy-Luigi statees Mario appears in the ending, since part of it is recycled from SM3DW. So, nope, it appears briefly. In NSLU it never appears.

Mario, Peach, Luigi, Toad
In the list of other characters it states that Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad appeared. But in the ending of the article it doesn't state how or why they appear. It was only until I had looked it up on Google myself and not the wiki did I realize that they appeared at the end as to show the beginning of The Adventures of Captian Toad and Super Mario 3D World. May I ask that someone adds that, so our viewers won't have to go to other sources? I know that we're just starting up this article, but I wanted someone to know, so that we can make our wiki as reliable as possible. Thanks! PeachRosalinaLeia (talk)
 * It is mentioned in the story section, if it needs to be more clear, please tell me exactly what should I say. Toad-brigade model CTTT.png Toad   and his brigade! Toadette model CTTT.png 12:51, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Prequel
The ending suggest that this game is a prequel to Super Mario 3D World. Can someone mention this?
 * References to ther games section: "Super Mario 3D World [...] Also, the intro from this games can be seen after the credits, revealing that Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is, in fact, a prequel to Super Mario 3D World." Ok, that section won't be the most checked, but please check better next time.

Pixel Toad, a character?
In the direct they specifically state: Placing the Amiibo during a level will summon Pixel Toad to etc...

They refer to pixel Toad as his own character, so I'm wondering, should we? Opinions? Toad   and his brigade!  21:05, 16 January 2015 (EST)
 * Is 8-Bit Mario considered his own character? Nope. Similarily should this 8-Bit Toad do: being just considered an 8-Bit version of Captain Toad. Also, who proves it is a living character? As far as I understanded, it's just a drawing stuck to somewhere.
 * First, 8-bit mario+Luigi never recieved names. This one did. He was specifically refered to as a seperate character: And it is animated: You can see him jump in and run to a hiding spot. And he was named, unlike 8-bit Mario. He is called Pixel Toad. Toad-brigade model CTTT.png Toad   and his brigade! Toadette model CTTT.png 13:03, 17 January 2015 (EST)
 * Alright guys, I'm going to need a response, or I'm starting a proposal. Nintendo called this set of pixels by name. So does that make it a character? Toad-brigade model CTTT.png Toad   and his brigade! Toadette model CTTT.png 21:34, 23 February 2015 (EST)

You are missing items from the past games
From Super Mario Bros., there are Super Mushroom sprites and Luigi sprites on Walleye Temple When you play New Super Mario Bros. Wii in multiplayer mode, if all the players are bubbled, the song for it plays and reused in this game

Super Mario 3D world levels
Should we just redirect the red 3D world links to their respective levels in 3D world? Shy Guy in a Bush (talk) 10:02, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

8 bit Rosalina cameo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbB7xNH2BcE Can someone please help me verify if this is a pixel version of Rosalina, because Nintendo did hide 8 bit Luigis in SM3DW and 8 bit toads in CT: TT.--70.79.246.167 18:06, 27 August 2015 (EDT)
 * That really does look like an 8-bit Rosalina. MarioComix (talk) 02:11, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

Which is the canon ending?
[Note: Spoilers for Treasure Tracker]

This is the final level and ending of Treasure Tracker on the Switch. Everything is mostly unchanged, except for the very end. Instead of the minecraft landing in the Mushroom Kingdom, it lands into the Sand Kingdom, and subsequently follows into Odyssey via a "The adventure conintiues in SMO!" message, as opposed to the original version of the game, which had the ending lead into the events of 3D World. I guess it makes sense why they'd do this, but it creates a problem in the canon of this game. So I'm here to ask, should we keep the Story part of the Wiki page written how it is, or replace it with the Switch ending? Or maybe we could have both? -- 20:14, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 * We should make note of both. 20:29, 11 July 2018 (EDT)


 * FYI, Mario has no canon.
 * EDIT: Fixed link. Thanks, MarioComix.
 * 21:25, 11 July 2018 (EDT)


 * Erm, here is the link. MarioComix (talk) 23:25, 11 July 2018 (EDT)


 * I've included the Switch and 3DS ending. 1468z (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2018 (EDT)

Is the 3DS and Switch version of Captain Toad Treasure Tracker really a prequel to Super Mario Odyssey?
First of all, I am new here. I've read this page for a long time, it has even proved useful for me, but until today I haven't registered before.

Now, let's get to the point: I don't think the Nintendo 3DS/Switch version of this game is really a prequel to Super Mario Odyssey, because of there reasons:

1: Captain Toad in those versions arrives to the Sand Kingdom instead of the Mushroom Kingdom, but in Super Mario Odyssey, he can be first found in the Cascade Kingdom, where Mario goes in the main quest before the Sand Kingdom.

2: Mario first discovered the Odyssey in the Cascade Kingdom. In Treasure Tracker's 3DS/Switch ending, Captain goes chasing after the Odyssey. Even with point 1 in effect, if Treasure Tracker was a prequel to Odyssey, Mario would have discovered the Odyssey before arriving to the Cascade Kingdom, where Captain Toad would eventually have gone.

3: The opening scene from Super Mario Odyssey doesn't appear at all (not that including it was necessary anyway), unlike the 3D World opening in the Wii U version, making chances of Treasure Tracker being a prequel to Odyssey less likely.

4: The Mario series doesn't have a solid continuity anyway. Of course, players can collect only the mandatory Power Moons in the Cascade Kingdom, then go to the Sand Kingdom and immediately return to the Cascade Kingdom to find Captain Toad, but considering how the main plot in Odyssey is apparently structured, that doesn't necessarily make it actually official that Treasure Tracker is a prequel to Odyssey.

5: The whole point of changing the ending was to simply promote Super Mario Odyssey (after all, Nintendo wouldn't promote a Wii U game that isn't even planned to be ported to the Switch yet, like Mario 3D World), not to turn Treasure Tracker into a prequel of it. I'm sure Nintendo doesn't even care about Treasure Tracker being a prequel to any game at this point.

At best, that ending scene is just a reference to Super Mario Odyssey, or at worst, the game is set in an alternate universe where Super Mario 3D Worls didn't happen and/or the overall events of Super Mario Odyssey didn't exactly unfold as in the game proper. Maybe I'm analysing it too much, but still, it doesn't seem (to me, at least) like "Treasure Tracker being a prequel to Odyssey" should be considered "official".

Just think about it.


 * Meh, yeah, you're analyzing it too much, I'd say. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:13, 30 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Applying logic here, it says "The adventure continues in Super Mario Odyssey!" at the ending, so that would most likely be enough proof. Also, the canonicity of the Mario franchise is practically obsolete, so...yeah.  17:51, 30 July 2018 (EDT)


 * This couldn't apply here. That message simply promotes Super Mario Odyssey, it's not there to make any interpretations about the ending automatically null, logical or not. I don't consider it right to speculate based on a simple advertising plug.


 * I think it's best to avoid saying CT:TT is a direct prequel to SMO. MarioComix (talk) 21:41, 30 July 2018 (EDT)


 * Yeah, that might make sense, because... (see below)

No, it's just CTTT promoting a different game. It would only deserve the same treatment as MK8's switch game. The reason is the promotion gives CTTT the Sand Kingdom (therefore not the Mushroom-Kingdom) and there is only one CTTT. Not to mention the game doesn't show the SMO opening scene or anything

Is Captain Toad Treasure Tracker really a prequel to Super Mario Odyssey in the 3DS and Switch versions? - Part 2
I've figured out another point of view. In the 3DS and Nintendo Switch versions, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker may have happened after Mario found Captain Toad in the Cascade Kingdom but before Mario arrived to the Sand Kingdom (after all, that kingdom was still frozen in Treasure Tracker's ending scene). Considering this, the plug into Super Mario Odyssey may now make more sense, but it's still not a prequel (or, more specifically not a direct one, unlike the Wii U one to Mario 3D World), since it may have taken place in between Super Mario Odyssey's events. We can't measure how many time has actually passed in-universe within each game, so it's a possibility.

P.S. You can now ignore my first comment, I think we should discard the views expressed in that one.


 * There is no in-universe. It's a thingy with other related thingies. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:26, 30 July 2018 (EDT)
 * For clarification's sake, here's the Wiki's official stance on canon. The 2nd paragraph is most relevant to our situation. I would argue CT:TT is not a direct prequel to SMO, but still a related thingy. MarioComix (talk) 23:11, 30 July 2018 (EDT)
 * I've just read it, and let me say that you have a point. I guess I don't have to worry about this topic anymore. I'm just going to stop talking about it and leave it there, if you'll let me.

--SuperJuancho64 (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

Incorrect enemy listing?
I can't edit the page, but the "Enemies" section lists Spinners and Spike Bars, both of which don't appear in the game (spiked bars appear when spawned by Spikes, but the Spike Bar page doesn't show any Spikes themself, which seems confusing. Spinners are not in the game at all.

Should we make a page, or at least add a picture, of the new player two character Purple Captain Toad?
In the 1.1.0 update of Captain Toad, they added two player mode, and a new character for the two player, Purple Captain Toad. My question is though: should we make an article for him? Or at least add a picture of him in to the article/gallery? MineDance (talk) 12:08, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
 * Picture at least, yes. 11:25, 6 March 2019 (EST)

No, he's just Mailtoad wearing a different outfit. It would only deserve the same treatment as Toadette's captain outfit. The reason is the outfit doesn't give Mailtoad any new powers (therefore not a power-up).

So...
Since a proposal decided to split them off, but was not split, should it be split? -- 06:33, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
 * You can try to overturn it with a new proposal, but since splitting the information is rather intensive, it's just on the backburner with a couple of other unimplemented proposals (it's not even the oldest one). LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:38, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
 * No, i don't oppose the split, but since the 3DS version of Luigi's Mansion is split, it's an inconsistency not to have this split. -- 07:39, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
 * I approve of splitting the 3DS version from this page, but the Nintendo Switch version is mostly just a direct port, and should in my opinion remain where it is. -- 01:25, June 29, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I've been meaning to get around to splitting these but haven't taken the time to work on it. The Switch version, per the proposal, will be split but be on the same page as the 3DS one since they seem to be the same. -- 13:32, June 29, 2019 (EDT)

Spinwheel Bill Base music references
I'm not 100% but it sounds like it has elements of M&L SS boss music and SM Land cave/Easton music. Are they similar enough to be added in the references section? Pallukun (talk) 10:14, November 4, 2019 (EST)