MarioWiki:Proposals

Writing guidelines
None at the moment.

New features
None at the moment.

Removals
None at the moment.

Merging non-Mario Subspace Emissary and Adventure Mode stages
Previous proposal attempted to merge all Smash Bros. series stages into one collective article. The main arguements against merge were that the list would be too huge, that some of these stages were already merged with either enemies or objects, and that stages are a major enough gameplay element to keep split.

One major part of this proposal, which has failed to reach consensus, was merging only Subspace Emissary and/or Adventure Mode stages. They seem very out of place on the Mario Wiki, so I propose to merge them too, like what we did with items, moves, and objects.

Leave a comment if you disagree with some entries in the list, so I can remove them from this proposal. They can always be dealt with individually at some point in the future.

If this proposal passes, the following stages will be merged (not deleted) into a collective article:

List of Subspace Emissary stages

 * Battleship Halberd Bridge
 * Battleship Halberd Exterior
 * Battleship Halberd Interior
 * Entrance to Subspace
 * The Forest
 * Midair Stadium
 * Outside the Ancient Ruins
 * The Plain
 * Sea of Clouds
 * Subspace (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)
 * The Battlefield Fortress
 * The Canyon
 * The Glacial Peak
 * The Great Maze
 * The Lake Shore
 * The Path to the Ruins
 * The Research Facility
 * The Ruined Hall
 * The Ruined Zoo
 * The Ruins
 * The Subspace Bomb Factory
 * The Wilds
 * World of Trophies
 * Isle of Ancients

Merge with Melee's section of Adventure Mode

 * Underground Maze
 * F-Zero Grand Prix

Excluded entries
The following entries will not be merged: Proposer: Deadline: January 20, 2023, 23:59 GMT
 * The Jungle - a stage that takes everything from the Donkey Kong series
 * The Cave - the majority of enemies come from the Mario series
 * The Lake - per Doc von Schmeltwick's comment.
 * The Swamp - the majority of enemies come from the Mario series
 * Mushroom Kingdom (Adventure Mode) - to be created, no idea how it was missed.

Merge

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) I still feel like this wiki is being horribly inconsistent by only merging some non-Mario aspects into lists and leaving some non-Mario aspects separate, and would prefer either all the non-Mario stages to be merged or split instead of picking and choosing whatever we want, but this is fine for now.
 * 4) Per my position on the previous proposal.
 * 5) Smorg small.png Merge!!!
 * 6) Per proposal.
 * 7) per all.
 * 8) Per all.

Comment
The Lake should also be excluded for the same reasons. It's Mario enemies and DK music. Path to the Ruins also is Mario-themed in music. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:30, January 14, 2023 (EST)
 * I've excluded The Lake, but not Path to the Ruins, because it features little to no Mario elements. Spectrogram (talk) 13:39, January 14, 2023 (EST)

Create Mario Kart course redirects with game prefixes for recurring track names
In case the title wasn't clear, I'm referring to making redirects like, , and. My argument for doing this is simple: I think it would be both useful and in line with our redirect policy.

For my first point: Series convention has people referring to these tracks this way even outside of official contexts, and people aren't going to take the time to think about whether a certain course came back before typing it into the search box. Heck, even I, whose editing hangout spots include not one but two lists of which courses appear in which games, find myself sooner typing "DS Bowser's Castle" into the search bar than "Bowser Castle (Mario Kart DS)", if only because one is shorter.

I do not believe these would be in violation of our redirect policy, as these names are neither silly (being an extension of series convention) nor ambiguous (there's only one course "Wii Mario Circuit" could be referring to). These are really the only criteria they need to meet, as the policy is otherwise very encouraging of redirects.

Now, my initial proposal was to do this for all unprefixed courses with recurring names, not counting MK8 or spinoffs since we don't know for sure what their prefixes would be. This results in this list:



It seems a bit excessive to me, but I realized while writing this that I may want to include an option to do this for every course from MK7 or before, so I'm also including that as an option.

Proposer: Deadline: January 27, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Create the redirects listed above

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Second choice.

Create redirects for all unprefixed courses from MK7 or before

 * 1) My listed reasons can apply, albeit more mildly, to all these courses; and as the redirect policy says, redirects don't cost anything.
 * 2) Per proposal, I'm surprised this wasn't already the case (also it's kind of already done with the non-city Tour courses here, here, and here, I would suggest extending this to Tour courses as well but since it's inevitable that they'll all be in the Booster Course Pass I guess that would just end up pointless in the long run).

Make changes on Yoshi franchise articles
I want to support some changes on the Yoshi franchise articles. The article about the series of Yoshi platformers could be too excessive and could be deleted and merged into the article about the Yoshi's Island series to classify Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3, Balloon Trip, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi's Island DS, and Yoshi's New Island as direct installments in the Yoshi's Island series and Yoshi's Story, Yoshi Demo, the Purple Yoshi tech demo, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's Woolly World, Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, and Yoshi's Crafted World as indirect games of the Yoshi's Island series. For example, Yoshi's Story's working title was Yoshi's Island 64, and the early logo looks similar to the SNES game Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island logo, implying that Yoshi's Story was originally planned as a sequel to said game and would have been a direct title in the Yoshi's Island series. Another example says that third-party company Game Informer calls Yoshi's Woolly World an indirect title in the Yoshi's Island series, stating that the game is "the best Yoshi's Island since the original Super Nintendo title". In addition to this change, the page about the Yoshi puzzle games could be moved to "Yoshi (series)". For example, Tetris Attack could be a spin-off of the Yoshi series of puzzle games.

Proposer: Deadline: January 7, 2023, 23:59 GMT Extended to January 14, 2023, 23:59 GMT Extended to January 21, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal

Oppose

 * 1) I think a better idea would be to just merge the Yoshi platform series article with the main Yoshi series article since the 'platform series' is so vaguely defined. Also, moving the puzzle series to 'Yoshi (series)' is a bad idea because that's easily confused with 'Yoshi (franchise)', and I'm not sure why you brought up GameInformer since they aren't an official source.
 * 2) Per Hewer and the comments.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per all.

Comments
This proposal really needs more options; primarily to be able to support one or the other rather than only all at once. 20:43, December 31, 2022 (EST)
 * I also doubt the proposal format is appropriate for this. 21:30, December 31, 2022 (EST)

You should probably have a project page to show how this would look if passed. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:13, January 11, 2023 (EST)