MarioWiki:Featured articles/N3/Super Mario Galaxy

Support

 * 1) Okay, time for operation "Feature Super Mario Galaxy, Revisit Redux" to come into effect!  This is a well-written, detailed, organized article without improvement tags or red links.  All complaints from its unfeaturement and its second featurement nomination have been satisfied, particularly the Gameplay section, which is now a lot more organized than it was before.  Therefore I believe that this article meets FA standards and can rejoin the ranks of the featured articles.  If there is anything wrong with the article, I will get it fixed.

Oppose

 * 1) Per all, and you are not getting away with not having an image for Big Amp.
 * 2) Intro can be expanded more, I feel. The reception section can be expanded and sources are required for that section. The characters and enemies section needs to have tables like Super Mario 3D World, so readers can know what a Petari is without having to click on the link (since many players don't own the guide or whatever and these enemies are never named in-game)
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Per all?
 * 6) - There are still some issues that need to be corrected, such as some missing images, the controls section is also overly descriptive, "Super Luigi Galaxy" and Unlockable secrets have repetitive information (almost word-for-word duplicated), and some citations need to be sourced. That Galaxy table looks great though.

Comments
There are over 70 enemies/obstacles in this game. Listing them all out with a simple list or even a gallery seems insufficient, the former lacks pictures and the latter would be mega-enormous. I have been gathering some images from (comparatively) high-quality YouTube videos, but the issue of organization is still key to all of this. I have devised a few methods here, if anyone's interested. The first way allows for an information blurb, and the second way takes up little space and can be easily changed when the inevitable shuffling regarding "Fish Bone," "Mechakoopa," and Gringill occurs. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:41, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * Second chart goes off the screen on my end. 00:44, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * What's your browser magnification at? I was considering lowering the amount by two or four anyways.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * 1280x1040, which I know is narrow. But chances are someone may have a screen similar or smaller, and the chart won't be helpful on mobile view. I'd say use the first option if a short summary is necessary. Otherwise, I think a simple gallery will do. 00:47, 8 March 2018 (EST)
 * The first option would be more consistent with the rest of the wiki, so I'd say go with that. And this may just be a personal thing, but I don't really like the clash between artwork and screen shots, it just looks strange to me. I'd say either go with solely artwork, and if that's not possible then solely screenshots.

@Time Turner: Well, that’s one thing to check off the list. The character and enemy sections are no longer just blobs of links. Please either change your reason or support. Thanks! - 21:56, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
 * I can get an image of Big Amp, but you'll have to tell me a galaxy it appears in (as the Big Amp article does not). - 23:36, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
 * I know for a fact that they appear in the Space Junk Galaxy. Also, some images, like the ones for Jellyfish, Lava Geyser, and Blooper, are screenshots from the sequel. While I'm fine with using model renders and official artfork from between games (due to the fact that they share models and the art itself is model rendering), using screenshots from between games can be misleading. If you do try to get images, try to have them be quality. The ones I'm uploading are the most high-quality I can find from YouTube, though emulator screenshots would be preferable. If you do get them from YouTube, make sure they're no blurrier than my recent uploads, and since the game came out in YouTube's early years, there will be a lot of low-quality videos to sift through before you can find something recent enough to be of an acceptable quality. Note that Mini Wanwan and Spoing need closer pictures, Ice Bat also needs a picture period, and I'd like to get images of the red Koopa Troopa from Sea Slide so we can show all varieties of enemies, as we do in other enemy sections. Furthermore, I will implore you to not split this from "new vs. returning," but from "enemies vs. obstacles," with an asterisk or something denoting what is new. There are also several obstacles that need to be added, as seen by the work I did to the SMG template a while back. Anyways, while I personally don't mind the conglomeration of screenshots, model renders, and artwork, I'd prefer all screenshots be cut as close as reasonable. I'd also prefer if Tweester was using a screenshot, as the art over that stock background is misleading. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:26, 28 March 2018 (EDT)

@Baby Luigi: The character and enemy sections are now galleries (tables would be disastrous), and I cited some (but not all) of the info in the Reception section. I also added a table to it. I’ll need the actual magazines, or maybe page photos, to cite everything else. Also, in what ways do you think the intro can be expanded? Thanks! - 23:55, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
 * I don't like the clash between artwork and game screenshots as others have stated. For the reception section, because of the advent of Metacritic, there should be more content in the section than there is now (there needs to be more on the critical consensus about the game: why it's the highest praised game and so on). Super Mario Galaxy I think because of its size should also get a sales section as well. The screenshots in the Galaxy sections should be more consistent: if you can't get a preview screenshot prior to visiting the galaxy, getting the overview screenshot should suffice. For the intro, look at how some other articles handle it, such as Super Mario 3D World or Mario Kart DS. 15:32, 28 March 2018 (EDT)