MarioWiki talk:FAQ/Archive 2

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Images
Hi, I recently uploaded an image for my userpage, but it didn't turn out right, so I tried to fix it, & I reuploaded it but didn't turn out right either. I wanted these images deleted (since they had very bad quality), but I probably can't do that. Would you please help me on this situation?
 * Just tag them with and a sysop will come and delete them. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

I am new to this wiki so could someone tell me what i can do! Mario Freak out P.S Super Sluggers rules!

Me too could someone tell me some of the things that I can do on this website. User:Gamer2.1

How to upload my pictures From my file?

Sorry for trouble asking, but how do i upload images like make your icon and do those "this user..." please repond quickly!

I uploaded an image, now how do I get it into a certain page? User:Rocket88

So, you know this is a maret sockpuppet.

I apologize if this is being posted too early on this page, although it is an image-related question: I have been on this Wiki for some time now, and while not often active, I've made a few edits and uploaded some pictures. For some reason, however, when I attempted to upload another image recently, I was not permitted to do so because I supposedly haven't been autoconfirmed, even though I've been here longer than a week. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks in advance! -User:Tailskirby6 Sep. 25, 2010
 * You need over 10 edits to be autoconfirmed 16:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I've tried to make an infobox, but it doesn't work! Anyone?

--Ultramariologan

Ummm...
Am I allowed to delete welcomes on my talk page?
 * "Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful". So, yeah. Go for it.

Does My username and password work on other wikis like Wikizilla?
 * No, you have to sign up to every Wiki individually. You could always use the same name when joining other websites, but it's a good idea to use different passwords (therefore, if someone discovers the password to one of your accounts, they can't automatically get into all of them). - 15:46, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't want the FAQ's section about becoming admin to be deleted. I was wondering that if anyone calls me, I'll answer! - Chris Helper

Okay, joined just a few minutes ago. SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY USERPAGE!!!
 * Edit for a few weeks and you'll be allowed to make you userspace (which you can do by simply clicking on the red link). - 02:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

User name
When I submit my username Mario freak my whole page comes up why is that?

Ah ha! when you put {{ around a page name, it shows the page, not a link. Instead, put brackets [[ around a page title, and it will show a link. Also, If you want to show your talk in addition to your username, put an | instead of a colon, but use the }'s. Lotsa symbols, but i hope you understand.
 * A.K.A. sign with Mario freak, or ~ (which will give you the first sig and a timestamp). Users also have the option of creating personalized signatures. Look at Signature for more information. -  17:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Help
Could someone tell me how to make personalized names/nicknames. The help page isn't very helpful.

Also can some one tell me how to find people without having to searching all over this website for them. If it's possible

The Dot
How do you do one of those large dots not a period and they are sometimes found on Templates


 * Try using the shortcut Alt + 0149 (use the numpad for the numbers). If that doesn't work, just copy the character: •. 10:43, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
 * I go straight to the source and edit the templates to see the raw hexidecimal codes for those sort of symbols. - 01:19, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

Polls
How do I add a poll? I went to the polls page, and it says it's not being used anymore, so where do I put my poll? -- 09:19, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
 * There's no "official" poll selection anymore. The user who makes the polls is, so if you have an idea, I think you can suggest it to him (this doesn't necessarily mean it will be used, though). 10:37, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

Featured Images
How do I nominate an image for featured images? on the Featured images page, it doesn't say anything about nominating an image.
 * It does. See here. -- Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

i cant figure out where to put an image to nominate it for featured images.Rooster17780

Petey Piranha Image
I wanted an Image of Petey Piranha from sluggers but it's to big! how do I size it down? go to my page to see what I mean! also I am having trouble posting my signature.
 * Use an image template to resize your picture. An example template code (a thumbnail) looks like this:


 * [[Image:NAME|thumb|left|150px|CAPTION]]


 * That will make the image 150 pixels wide, aligned on the left of the page (if you want it to be on the right, type in "right" where "left" is on this example), and with a caption. You can change the number of "px" to make the images different sizes (I generally find my ideal sizes using trial and error). As for your signature, you should be able to type in " " and get this: "". To use the " ~ " shortcut, you'll have to go to "my preferences" (at the top right corner of the window, second link from the left), and type in " User:GalacticPetey/sig " in the "Signature" box (fifth line down on the User Profile Preferences page). If you need more signature information, look at Help:Signature and Signature; if you want more insight into images, just look around the Wiki and emulate what's been done on those images. -  01:12, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

Infobox
How do you make a infobox? also ever since I added a Petey Piranha image to my sig I can't get the link to my page.


 * Look at some of the articles around the Wiki if you want to see how infoboxes work. Or do you mean Userbox towers? As for your sig trouble, I suggest removing the image; accoring to Signature, images must be no more than 35px tall, and animated images, like yours, are discouraged (they create long loading times and are distracting to readers). If you really want to keep the images, you MUST shrink them to 35px, and though I do not know why the link stopped working, I found that if you change the text coding to , the link works again. -  20:22, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Problems
This FAQ should mention something about patrollers, this is a totally new rank not on any other wiki. It should also talk about the no-sig policy because that's an important part of the wiki.
 * Perhaps it should, I'll go and add it for you. 22:59, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

Where did it go
I am Zero! Does anybody know what happened to the Brawl tourney? Zero signing out.
 * Xpike completely fizzled out on me, so I had to cancel it. Very sorry. :( 23:21, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

Icon Dilemma
I have no idea of how to put a icon next to my user name when ever I type it (Or, Diffrent Fonts). Can someone help? User:LuigiMania
 * You mean create a signature? Go to Help:Signature or Signatures for more information.

Info boxes
Can someone please tell me how to make an info box?
 * You can copy/paste the source code of template:character-infobox onto your userpage and edit it. -- Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

DPL & Other Coding
DPL seems to be a very interesting type of coding, and it also looks to be a good thing to know for wikis. The problem is, I'd like to learn a substantial amount of it, and I don't know where to learn it. Can anybody provide me with links (if not, any coding books or tutorials)? Should I know any other coding before learning DPL? Also, what is "wiki-syntax"? 16:52, 16 August 2009 (EDT)

BK color
How do I change the background color of my userpage?

Personal Image
I want to upload an image and make it personal. How do I do it?

Do any Sysops need to edit something? I'll do it!
 * You can upload the image and add the personal image tag: Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Status box
How do you make a status box?

Talk to Other Users
How do you talk to other users on the Wiki?
 * Leave a message on their talk page. (e.g. If you wanted to talk to a user named "Example", you would edit the page "user talk:Example" to leave a message). Other ways of talking include the Forum and our IRC channel. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Templates
How do you make a template?
 * Create a page titled "Template:Name" (i.e. Template:SPP for a template about Super Princess Peach) and fill it with coding. But be warned: it takes a while to get good enough at the coding to do it right (I generally copy coding from existing templates and tweak to fit the new template's needs), and people often make templates for things that don't really need one - categories are just as good for most navigational purposes. We're actually trying to cut back on navigation templates and revamp the entire system, so now's not a great time to go making more without a really good reason. - 00:15, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

kamek's new super mario bros. wii artwork
the new super mario bros. wii article needs kamek's new artwork so can someone tell me where i can find his nsmbwii artwork or can somebody get it and add it to the article.

Kamek doesn't have NSMBW artwork. Nintendo never made one.

Talk Pages
Does any1 know how 2 use a talk page, send messages, and use these pictures FunkyK38 gave me? If so tell me on my talk page-

Autocomfirmed and Copyright
Hi. I'm new and I want to now how I get to be autocomfirmed so I can edit my userpage. I also worried because I want to put an image but how I get the permission? I just gonna use a recolor of Mario.
 * You get autoconfirmed one week after you joined, at which point you can make and edit a Userpage. I'm not an expert on licensing, but I'm pretty sure Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 would do for an unofficial recolour (which should not be used on painspace, only as a Personal Image). - 02:52, 23 December 2009 (EST)

Hi
Hi, how can I become a patroller?
 * Work hard, learn the rules, become an active part of the community and stick around long enough for the current Administrative team to take notice of your efforts and consider you for a promotion. Don't call us: we'll call you. - 02:52, 23 December 2009 (EST)

Changing Article Titles
I know that in order to change the name of an article, you must select "Move" on the top of the screen. However, I'm unsure of what to make of this statement: "Links to the old page title will not be changed; be sure to check for double or broken redirects. You are responsible for making sure that links continue to point where they are supposed to go."

It doesn't explain at all how to do this. How can I figure out which articles use the name of the article I want to change? ~Hylian Angel

Check "what links here" in the toolbox to the left side.-- 18:19, 26 January 2010 (EST)

Thank you very much! =) ~Hylian Angel

When You Join
How can you know how long you joined Super Mario Wiki? I'm asking this because i want to know when i get autocomefermed. Pianoboy8
 * Its simple, just go here. Where it says user, type your username (Caps are quite sensitive!!), and voila! It will tell you when you joined :) -- 18:09, 8 March 2010 (EST)

How do I upload images on my own page?
I don't know how to upload images on my page SuperMarioGalaxy2, when I tried it didn't show up on my page. Please help!
 * First you need to go to Special:Upload and upload the file, next in your user page, you just type [[Image:IMAGENAME.etc]] it can also be [[Image:IMAGENAME.etc|thumb|Description]] -- 12:36, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

Who's getting rid of or changing the names of characters and places?!
Who removed the names for the stages of each world for "New Super Mario Bros." and "New Super Mario Bros. Wii"?! I liked those; they helped tell them apart besides being just called World 1 1-1 and all those other bland names! Now they're gone, and I won't be able to remember them! Does anyone on this site remember the names of the worlds and stages for "New Super Mario Bros." and "New Super Mario Bros. Wii"?! Furthermore, who changed the names of Wario enemies to japanese?! Nobody will know that's not really their real names! I must edit these articles and change them back to their neater descriptions!
 * The stage names were changed to generic ones because no reliable sources attesting the official status of the other names was provided; wherever possible, we try to avoid unofficial names on the Wiki. The names of the Wario enemies were changed to the Japanese ones as the English names previously used for them were nothing but placeholders due to the lack of a known official name at the time; they were replaced when the official Japanese names of the enemies became known. No official English name has been discovered for any of these so far. If you know of any official English names and can provide a reliable source for them, feel free to change the names; otherwise, the generic stage names & Japanese enemy names will have to stay.--vellidragon 16:21, 25 May 2010 (EDT)

"New Super Mario Bros. Wii" worlds.
Does anyone on this site know the made-up names of each stage from each world on "New Super Mario Bros. Wii" before they all got removed from Mario Wiki? I knew I should have wrote them down while they were still here; I liked them...
 * If you want to see the names again, simply click on the "History" tab at the top of the article. This will bring you to a page listing every change that has ever been made to the article in question; simply click on an earlier date to see what the article looked like when that revision was made. In your case, you probably only have to go one or two edits into the past to see the names before they were removed. I'd also like to mention a couple quick things about talk page usage, while we're here: since this NSMB Wii name subject was already being discussed in the above section, rather than creating a new header, it would be simpler if you simply edit the already existing conversation (by adding your new comment to the bottom). And finally, please sign all your comments with or ~ so the rest of us know who we're talking to. -  18:26, 25 May 2010 (EDT)

How do I answer questions?
Um...somebody's asked me something. How do I answer back on this website? Do I just edit the page or something?


 * Basically, yes. Write your answer below their question (in the same section of the talk page), making sure to sign with ~ or . Alternatively, you can go to their talk page and make a new section, in which you would then post your answer. -  19:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

How do I find Super Mario Wiki's creator talk page.
I'm trying to find the Super Mario Wiki's creator so I can ask him something but I can't find his talk page. Can someone give me a link to him.

User talk:Porplemontage

I need help making infoboxes for my userpage
I saw some users had infoboxes on their userpage, but I don't know how. Please help me. :(
 * Use this code: {| cellpadding=1 cellspacing=2 align=right border=1 width=200px style="font-family: yellow, sans-serif; padding: 6px; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; font-size: 12px; background-color: orange; border:1px solid orange;"


 * - bgcolor=orange
 * align=center colspan=2|
 * align="center" colspan=2| Fawfulfury65
 * Real Name: I will never tell you now!!!! MUWAHAHAHA!!!
 * Age: 12
 * Gender: Female
 * Favorite Game: ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
 * Least Favorite Game: '' Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
 * State: Pennsylvania
 * }
 * Favorite Game: ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
 * Least Favorite Game: '' Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
 * State: Pennsylvania
 * }
 * State: Pennsylvania
 * }
 * }

and change around how you like. It looks like this: @BluePikminKong497: Please don't put my infobox on another page without permission.

Wow! thanks for the info.-Bagels25

Question
How do you add images onto a page? -Mario&Kirby180

just do this but add the image you upload

Thanks but how do you upload? Sorry I'm a beginner. -Mario&Kirby180
 * Do you see that thing that says :Upload file on the toolbra at the left? well, when you find an image you like (on another site) right click it and click "Save Picture as", then name the pic. THen, go to upload file and click browse, until you browse to the picture you wnated them click upload and its there! Make sure if its a sprite to save it as .PNG.  20:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

umm... it says a file with this name already exists and if I change it, it wont let me create a page.
 * What image do you want to upload? Did you find it on this website? I fnot, please link to where you found it. 20:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I want to upload Mario Kirby jpg and it is on this site under Kirby.


 * Are you an autoconfirmed user? You can't upload image files until you're autoconfirmed.
 * Yes, you have to wait one week to upload, and you cant upload that image since it is already on this site. 21:24, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your time BluePikminKong497.What if it is on google?One more question, how can I create my own page?
 * You have to make 10 edits and stay here for at least a week to be autoconfirmed. Userpage? -> User:Mario&Kirby180

Yeah, a userpage Thanks for your time too babyluigionfire
 * That link I created? It's your userpage. It doesn't exist yet. If you're autoconfirmed and you click on it, you can create your userpage.

Thanks again and how could I talk to you alone. I would like to discuss favorites and stuff. You are pretty cool
 * If the image is on google you can upload it. To talk tojim, go to jis talk page. 22:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * My talk page is in my signature. The link to it is on the "Luigi" part of the sig :)

TRUE???
Hey, I Just want to know what is criteria for Information to be considered reliable and true on this website?


 * Well, it has to be proven and come from a reliable source.


 * Taking information directly from the games, other Nintendo-certified sources (such as the old TV series), and from the company itself (such as public statements and official websites) is generally considered the most ideal way of gathering information: nothing beats getting something straight from the horse's mouth. Other sources (i.e. fan websites, unofficial guides) are often consulted as well, however, and in these occurrences especially, the sources should always be cited so that we can confirm they are reliable (which is more of a case-by-case exercise). - 16:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Astro Goomba?
Where did you get the name for Astro Goomba, Brrr Bit and Burn Bit? I think they should be called by their "Prima" Names, Goombeetle, Lil' Brrr and Lil'Cinder. After all all most every other Super Mario Galaxy enemy got a new or inhansed name for the sequel. Why not them?

can some one please help me?
umm... i just joined and am having trouble doing most stuff. i can view pages and stuff like that but, than i get confused or it doesn't work... i even tried to chat but this error was is the window were (i think) the chat is supposed to be. i can't copy and paste it here so you know what happened :( is there some other way i can get help? like maybe another site or an messaging program? sorry to bother this page too, i just don't know what i'm doing :(
 * -ok so i re installed java and now chat works *phew*...
 * so how do i remove this :( ???


 * Remove what? - 01:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * He means the boxes around his message, make sure not to put any spaces in front of the message or that box will appear. I removed the spaces for you. Anyways, Java is required to use chat on this wiki though there are several downloadable programs like ChatZilla or mIRC (google them) that you can use. You can also go to http://www.chat.mibbit.com to do it for free and without Java. However you will have to change the server to irc.darkmyst.org and then join the channel #mwikitalk or #mwchat - it's really complicated. It would be best to just keep trying the MW applet.

Tower troubles
I have some formatting issues. I try to put some sections beside my tower and it only pushes my userbox tower down. If i put it underneath, it is shown within the tower. If i could get some help with this. User:Geniusguy445 is my page. you can take a look at the code and see if i did something wrong. ^^^^

Your 3DS userbox is causing it. There are 3 brackets in the beginning instead of two. Also some other userboxes have 3 brackets instead of two. Change that to make it two and I think you should be fine.


 * Fixed it -- 21:05, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I REALLY appreciate. I've been working so hard on my page. I never would have thought of that. Thanks again.

Videos
How can you put videos on the site? I was unable to do this. Is it actually possible?

If you are talking about YouTube videos, then yes. Check out Help:YouTube for more details.

Super Paper.....what is this?
Hey, Would Super Paper Mario be considered a 2d platformer or a Rpg?


 * I don't know, since I never played the game myself. I read on GameFAQs, however, that it is classified as an platformer. It could also be a hyrbird. An RPG-styled platformer or a platformer-styled RPG.
 * Well, it's a platformer with RPG elements, from what I have seen. 11:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

How Can I...
How can i edit the little box at the bottom of a web page (i dont know what its called). The one that you can show and hide, and has all the pages that relate to the page that your one.

IGGY7735


 * Those are called Templates; they are basically special pages that have been embedded in the pages that you read on the wiki, and to edit them, you have to go to the templates' pages. For example, if you wanted to edit the "Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door" template at the bottom of the Gold Star page, you'd actually have to go to the Template:PM2 page and hit edit there. I usually find the name of the template I want to edit by editing the page they're embedded in, hitting preview and then going to the bottom of the screen, below the "Save" button, to the part that says "Templates used in this preview:" and clicking on the "(edit)" link next to the template in question in the following list. Or you can just find the template in the page's text itself - in the Gold Star example, just look for " " - the squiggly brackets mean that the page named within them is embedded, unlike the square brackets which are merely links. Just remember to add "Template:" before whatever was in the squiggly brackets when you type in the address (which is why I usually use the link in the Preview page: it's more straightforward). -  03:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Autoconfirmation
Why do you have to be be on the wiki for 1 week and make 10 edits to be autoconfirmed? And by the way, Yoshi rocks. Alex1002Alex1002 21:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thats just how it works.

Signature
How do you put your signature?


 * http://www.mariowiki.com/skins/common/images/button_sig.png -- 00:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Koopalings
Me and my bro are having a stupid argument so could one of you clear this up. The we just love being mean picture is from the SMB3 manual right?
 * Yes, it is. - 16:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Userpedia
I was thinking about joining Userpedia, do I have to do anything, or ask anyone for permision to join.
 * No, just log in.


 * Thanks

Can I still become a sysop or admin if I have warnings?
I have about 4 warnings on my record, but i have learned from my past mistakes, and I never vandalize the wiki. Is it still possible for me to become an admin or sysop?


 * If the admins believe you have learned from your mistakes and that you are behaving better than you were before. It's all up to their judgement in the end and while the warnings will influence them more than a little bit, they are not condemnations.
 * Well, Lindsay was actually blocked for a period of time. And look at her right now.
 * Just for a tip, Mileycyrussoulja, you're gonna need to start making some bigger edits if you want to become an admin. Minor edits are nice, but it's the big ones that really count ;)
 * Alot of times I make infoboxes for characters, fix spelling errors, and sometimes even add a bunch of trivia to an article. Do those count as big edits?


 * Fixing spelling errors is very minor. The other things aren't.
 * Well thats what i mean. I do alot of infobox adding and trivia adding, so that means i make some good edits.
 * Adding trivia is actually discouraged (there was a proposal about it a long time ago, iirc): try to incorporate as much info as possible into the main text. - 22:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

All edits made in good faith are good edits, content edits are what you are speaking of. Anyways, I know I'm not an admin but you have made many redirect articles, which is nice, but those help the content of the wiki minimally. Personally I believe that spelling edits are more valuable than redirecting edits. So I suggest you do more of those and less of these.
 * Sorry to bug you guys again, but how long does it take to promote someone like me to an admin? I've been waiting a while. And actually marioguy1, i NEEDED to make those redirects, since they are redirects to SMG mission names.

It will take longer than a few months, just making contributions does not fit the bill, you have to have the right attitude, the right qualities, not just the quantity. Considering you've been banned twice on #mwchat, permabanned from Userpedia and temporarily banned here, it could take a long time...ESPECIALLY after this.

Userbox
When I copied the Userbox code and put it in my user page, it didn't appear. What's wrong? -- Ultramariologan

You have to type above it and  below it.

Title
How can you edit a title of a article?
 * You shouldn't do that in any other article than in your userspace, or in cases like the SMW castles. Anyways, the code is -- 17:40, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Or are you asking about moving an article (i.e. from "Super Mario Bros. (movie)" to "Super Mario Bros. (film)"? You hit the "move" tab at the top of the page, but you need a really good reason to do so. - 02:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Picture
I uploaded a picture onto my user page and it came out very big. How do I get it to look like the ones in galleries? -- Tails777
 * to do that, type the coding for the image ( Mario-party-advance-yoshi2.jpg) but instead of closing it off with ]], type . What you should have typed so far is Mario-party-advance-yoshi2.jpg. That should resize the image to 200 pixels. Typing 300px instead of 200px makes it 300 pixels (bigger) and typing 100px makes it 100 pixels (smaller). You can type pretty much any number as the size, depending on your preference.

Friends
Can I add friends to my user page? If so than how. User:Tails777

Fixed a couple of things.
In Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, the bosses were misplaced with the levels, so I fixed the locations and put in the bosses of the Wii version. Plus, I fixed a grammar error in Double Tusk.SuperMegaNick 11/24/10 3:24 PM

DK
Now that Donkey Kong Wiki is part of the NIWA, is Super Mario Wiki still going to have Donkey Kong-related articles? IGGY7735
 * yes -- 23:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Userpox
How do you add a userpox to your page.


 * Userbox gives you all the information that you need, if you meant "userbox".

Problem.
I, MarioMaster2011, have a few problems. I new to this Wiki and need help. I can't seem to make my own icon in a discussion in a article. Also I don't know how to post pictures and add character info. please help as soon as you can.--MarioMaster2011 07:09, 18 December 2010 (UTC)MarioMaster2011
 * Signature and Help:Signature both explain how to make your own signature, which I'm pretty sure is the "icon" you're talking about (something other than a basic link to your userpage that appears when you sign a comment, with personalized colours and fonts and often a small picture as well). You can look at how other people format stuff to get an idea of how to do it yourself - both with your signature, and with mainspace edits like adding images and information to articles. Manual of Style is a great place to go for an overview of how to build articles, and there are lots of other help pages you can look at (many of them are linked to in the welcome template you received when you joined); Help:Image talks about images, for example. - 23:36, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

watchlist for me is whatlist
Well, I would just want to know what a watchlist is for.


 * If there are pages you want to keep track of, you can hit "Watch" on the top of the article. Then, if that article is edited, it will appear on your watchlist so you can notice the edit more easily.

Got it.

What do you mean?
What do you mean on the rule "Take on a big project"? Is it like a PipeProject, a Goal for a user, or something?