MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Vivian

Support

 * 1) This article is very well written. It includes well-written history, a great foreign language template, and the pictures are a good size, and have reasonable captions. Overall, it's a great article that is very popular in Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, where she is a main character, so I support.

Oppose

 * 1) Like you said there are a few things that need to be fixed. Until these problems are fixed the article cannot be featured.

Removal of Opposes
Yoshi876
 * 1) Everything has been cleared up, all the information that needed to be worked on is done.
 * 2) The "issues" are not specified, so the vote is invalid.

Comments
Having "a few things that need to be fixed" is dealbreaker for me. If they were fixed, I'd support. But for now, I'm not voting. 11:27, 11 April 2014 (EDT)

Okay. I will fix some of the bad edits.

The edits are fixed! It looks better now.
 * You did one tiny edit, that hardly counts as fixing the problems.
 * I'll do more. It's such a great article though, and there isn't much more to edit.

I suggest to trin her "Gender" section...and delete some refs
 * Okay, then will you support?
 * Yes, I am OK with it now.


 * Removing perfectly good information is a horrible way to go about "improving" a page. The gender stuff is important and interesting, and at only two paragraphs,it's not too large at all, it's just thorough, which is a good thing. And if anything, the extensive references are one of the page's strengths: citations give the wiki credibility and make us more professional-grade, and in this case in particular, having hard video proof and our own original translation work stops people from baselessly trying to white-wash the gender stuff, since we can say "uh, no, it's real, leave it alone". - 20:33, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
 * Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure.

it is nice but they still need to fix the mistke for the Japan part of the page other then that it's 90 - of 100


 * @Grand Master Gamer, What exactly do you mean by "The Japanese Part"? Do you mean the names in different languages?


 * No, the user just takes issue with the transgender stuff, but that's their problem, not the article's. (This is a good example of why the page does need all those references, tho.) - 20:17, 9 May 2014 (EDT)

i mean that the gander part at the end of the japan version Gommbella said that vivian was 100% female and that bedam was being a bully how can any one take Beldum that is a bully as canon she was bullying vivian and Goombella toke it the worng way all so goomebella is not all that reliable because she called a person by gender base on what other people side also she called hooktail a guy just becasue the othe people called him a dude but it run's out that hooktail is a she when gloom tail she you killed my little sister right after they said hooks tail name also goomebella did not change her info so if she caN make a mistake on someone gender then why could she not mistake Vivain gender as well
 * What? 23:53, 9 May 2014 (EDT)


 * Hooktail being referred as a male is more likely a mistake on the game's part rather than Goombella's being wrong.
 * As 'kazo said, "Beldam calling Vivian a boy was [..] meant to be taken literally", so it's not just an insult to Vivian's femininity, it's to mock Vivian's identification with femininity.
 * To be frank, it's a chore to read your posts, so if I'm making the wrong argument, I'm interpreting your writing rather than reading it, and it's a lot of effort.. 00:05, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

i think that the hooktail line might also be in the Japan version but i can't check becasue there are no Japan walktought of the game you are calling vivain a man in the Japan versionm when the only proof is not of the Japan version