Talk:Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

From the discussion on Artichoker:

I never got to play SMRPG. That will be the main reason I get a Wii. SMRPG. And theyre saying they won't have it since its Square's! UGH!! H K


 * That sucks. SMRPG is a great game; a classic RPG. --Son of Suns 12:46, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

There truly is no reasoning with the monster known as Nintendo! You hate them, you love them. If they would remake it, not even a perfect remake, I dont care.

They could update graphics. I wouldn't mind. Its unneeded, but would you mind. Remake it for DS, so as not to destroy the control system. Edit diologue. Add minigames, I don't care. I wrote them in a more polite manner. They sent me this.

Message(#6851-000507-9641\5079641)

Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,

We appreciate hearing about the types of products that you would like to see from us in the future. While there hasn't been an announcement concerning a Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars for the Nintendo DS, you never know what the future holds! As the worldwide leader and innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, and because of our history of pushing the limits of gameplay and design, you can always count on Nintendo offering the most imaginative products.

In the meantime, keep checking our website's news section (www.nintendo.com/newsmain) for the latest information and announcements.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc. Sharon Matheny

Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com/ Power Line (Automated Product Info): (425) 885-7529

Just venting. H K


 * This is an interesting conversation for an article about a minor plant monster. :) --Son of Suns 13:01, 19 July 2006 (EDT)
 * They sent me the same exact message when I contacted them. Then I was like "That's ALL you're gonna tell us?!?!?!?!?!?!?". Toadette 4evur 20:36, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Yeah.... Sorry about that.... Little outburst.... H K
 * No problem. Son of Suns already moved what we had about SMRPG here. :) Wayoshi 13:09, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Actually, I moved it, he labeled it. :) H K

Heyas.
Hmm... not sure if I'm doing this comment thing right... We'll see, and hopefully I'll be able to further this awesome Wiki's pages for the better. Sorry, I noticed the error in the story and I just had to jump in fix it up(Which yes, I know is the point of a Wiki.) So while there's still much more that can be added, I'll leave it at that for now. :Rueben 16:02, 19 July 2006 (EDT)


 * Feel free to edit whatever you want or create any new articles that need to be made. We need a lot of help to make this Wiki complete! --Son of Suns 16:03, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Wikis are never complete. Ever. H K

Pretty sure Mario's Pad isn't a "town"
Shouldn't we move Mario's Pad from towns to areas, because, I've never seen a house counted as a town. --Bentendo 14:48, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I suppose that would be a good idea. I'll go ahead and do that.  13:03, 19 February 2008 (PT)

Virtual Console Europe
Being a European, I was mortified by being denied this game. I was just wondering if it will be released here on the virtual console. 11:35, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

SMRPG is the BEST Mario RPG Ever!!
 * Yoshi Time, no, it hasn't been confirmed for a VC release in Europe. LilBooster, please refrain from such comments on talk pages and use the wiki forum. - 17:38, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

Wario Wish
I have reason to believe there was a reference to Wario in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. One of the Wishes on Star Hill sounded very much like something Wario would wish for. It was something like "I want to be the best treasure hunter in the world", matching Wario's "job" as a treasure hunter.
 * And, no one responded, why?
 * Remember the release date. Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land was only released in 1994, two years before, so he might not yet have had the image of a treasure hunter. - 10:19, 15 November 2007 (EST)
 * Then, who could've made that wish?
 * Probably some random NPC, I have recollections of some Toad kid saying he wanted to be a treasure hunter/explorer or something. -- Sir Grodus 23:20, 16 November 2007 (EST)

You guys! It was the treasure hunter from Moleville. He's the only person of the Toad race in that town. He always tells Mario how he wants to hunt treasure, remember? Taric25 23:12, 19 January 2008 (EST)

December?
It says this Game will be coming out for December of this year. Is this cited somewhere? There are two weeks left for the game to come out, and I haven't seen any confirmations that it will come out. Sooo... Citations, please? InfectedShroom. 18:36, 18 December 2007 (EST)
 * It can be assumed only because it was stated that the game will be released this year. We don't know, however, whether they will able to keep the date. - 12:27, 19 December 2007 (EST)

I hate to break to ya`ll but I just recently just checked the VC and I saw NO Super Mario RPG. ( and tomorrow it going to be Jan 1, 2008.) Princess Butterfly 12:13, 31 December 2007 (EST)
 * If it's not available in North America still, it's time to change the release back to TBA. - 19:51, 31 December 2007 (EST)

The reason it wasn't released on VC is because Square-Enix thinks they can make more money if they remake it for the DS. Toadette 4evur 16:31, 2 February 2008 (EST)
 * Do you have a source for that? - 16:45, 2 February 2008 (EST)
 * Yes, Super Mario RPG Legacy (www.smrpglegacy.com). Toadette 4evur 17:10, 2 February 2008 (EST)
 * I don't see a note on that on their page. - 17:13, 2 February 2008 (EST)
 * It's in one of the updates. The update's title is "Square Considers Super Mario RPG DS". If I read it right, he got his info from and IGN podcast called "Wii-K review". Toadette 4evur 17:21, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Your serious!!! I was looking forward to play Mario RPG but those creeps! (So they're trying to make more money huh!)  I search for some source 'bout Super Mario RPG DS Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:29, 2 February 2008 (EST)

I only found two web sights that mention Mario RPG DS look under Release and rumored sequels. and this one is disscussion Princess Grapes Butterfly 19:43, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Here is a link to my source: Toadette 4evur 20:33, 2 February 2008 (EST)
 * Their front page is as far as I got...but I can't find the source on it. - 06:03, 4 February 2008 (EST)
 * You have to scroll down a little. Toadette 4evur 21:47, 4 February 2008 (EST) *It's from the 1/27/08 update (I think)*

Chapters
What really defies a section of this game as a chapter? They aren't specifically counted for like in the Paper Mario games. Is a chapter a section where he gets a star piece? Personally, I think it should be divided like this;

Prologue- From the begining to when Exor crashes into bowser's keep

Chapter 1- From when Exor crashes into bowser's keep to when mario defeats mack

Chapter 2- From when Mario defeats mack to when mario defeats bowyer

Chapter 3- From when mario defeats bowyer to when mario defeats punchinello

Chapter 4- From when Mario defeats punchinello to when Mario gets the purple star piece

Chapter 5- From when Mario gets the purple star piece to when Mario defeats Valentina

Chapter 6- From when mario defeats valentina to when Mario defeats the axem rangers

Chapter 7- From when mario defeats the Axem rangers to when Mario defeats Smithy

20:25, 1 June 2008 (EST) P.S I've played this game before.
 * Yeah, it is a bit hard to divide it in chapters as there is no big announcement as in the Paper Mario games. But leaving the storyline without any subdivisions doesn't look right to me, so I divided it into the quests for each of the seven star pieces. We could even have "creative" headers instead of "Chapter 1" headers, they would be more true.
 * I think the current division is fair. I don't really see a need for splitting the Prolouge from Chapter 1, as it is very short already. - 12:45, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

I feel that the chapters are actually the worlds of the game. In the game (and Nintendo guide) the walkthrough is divided into 7 sections. Here they are:

Mushroom Kingdom (to Mack)

Pond to Pipes (to y'oster isle)

Moleville Mountains (to the rescue of Toadstool)

Sea Side (to the defeat of Yaridovich)

Land's end (to Grate Guy's Casino)

Nimbus Land (to Axem Ranger's defeat)

Smithy factory (to credits)

I feel that this is the most official way to present the 'chapters' of the game, and also, could we use the headings I've mentioned?

-cylex7 2:04, 19 January 2009 (PST)
 * Where is the return to Bowser's Keep in that division? I can't find it. Other than that, it seems to mostly be the same as my headlines I just put up. I would also rather keep the "creative" names because you can't call the Barrel Volcano "Nimbus Land". In my opinion, anyway. - 17:16, 19 January 2009 (EST)


 * I would rather use the official names. It's the most objective standard, as opposed to made-up titles. --

Grandma Toadstool
Per a recent proposal, this page should link to Toadstool's grandmother rather than Grandma Toadstool. Please help me make this change! 15:22, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Trivia
How does


 * The maximum level for everybody in Mario's party is 30.

count as trivia? It has nothing to do with the development history or otherwise uncommon knowledge about the game. It's a fact about the game play that anyone that's played the game should know. Does anyone else agree that it should be rewritten under the Battle System section? Redstar 02:36, 22 March 2009 (EDT)


 * It should definitely be included in the main article, not Trivia. -- P.S. Some users have a really bad habit of sticking new content into the Trivia section, instead of trying to incorporate the content into the main article.


 * Yeah, I'm seeing this a lot. I'll rewrite it into the main article now... Am I doing the standard thing by bringing it up in discussion first? Redstar 14:44, 22 March 2009 (EDT)


 * It's good that you have been bringing these issues up, but I think you have demonstrated that you know what you are doing, so if you see more problems like the ones you have already discovered, feel free to be BOLD and change them without asking. If someone disagrees with your change, they can always undo your edit and bring it up on the talk page.  I would suggest to you that you really only need to use the talk page if you personally are not sure what to do about something in the article and need some suggestions or advice.  Otherwise, just make the changes that need to be done and let us know what you are doing in your edit summaries. =D --


 * Sounds good. Redstar 20:33, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

Translations
I don't think hacked ROMs are even legal to list here. - 10:53, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

Invisible Beings
In Mushroom Kingdom (near the castle) and Rose Town (behind the house of the guy who tell you about the secret of the Forest Maze), there are two characters character hidden behind the building that gives you hint when you find them. Unlike the other NPCS, you only have to touch them to talk (instead of having to press a button). Are these things worthy of an article or they only need to be mentioned in the trivia? --Glowsquid 12:48, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
 * As long as they have official names, yeah. I never actually finished playing SMRPG, but they sound like they're worthy of having their own articles. 17:53, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

Only if they have official names or affect the storyline in some way. Giving hints doesn't exactly affect the story, since that is a general purpose of most NPCs.-- 18:32, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
 * The article would be about the "concept"/"species" more than anything, there's more than one of them and they have at least one mechanic different from the normal NPCs (how you talk to them). Of course, as I said, this could go in the trivia. --Glowsquid 19:06, 21 September 2009 (EDT)