Talk:Hisstocrat

How is his german name?


 * Only people that play the German version know. 17:49, 24 November 2013 (EST)
 * Von Zischel is his name. MeincraftManu (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2013 (EST)

I think his minions are part of the Cobrat enemy family. they could be the the new cobrat enemy and then again. i could be wrong.

A Banquet with Hisstocrat
Should we have information of the level "A Banquet with Hisstocrat" here, like bosses from Donkey Kong Country series have their levels merged with their articles? MegaKoopa  Talk  09:46, 13 December 2013 (EST)
 * Actually, the boss levels should be split from the bosses themselves. Levels =/= bosses. 14:47, 13 December 2013 (EST)

The Snake Minions
I think his minions are part of the Cobrat enemy family. they could be the the new cobrat enemy and then again. i could be wrong. - King Bowser Koopa
 * There's no official source for these though; this relies on speculation and we don't support speculation at the wiki 20:09, 24 December 2013 (EST)

Make a Hisstocrat's Minions article
I feel that Hisstocrat's minions should have an article for themselves. They themselves are actually the main enemy in the fight, and are actually the key to defeating their king. I doubt that the names will be given in future Nintendo Directs, and I bought every single legitimate-looking Super Mario 3D World guide I could find. None of them had the names for these snakes, and even the official Prima Guide came to nothing more specific. I say that we make this article and put it under the conjecture template until we find the real names of these snakes. I am sure that Nintendo won't be giving us the names of these snakes for at least three or four years.

So, what do you think? Create the article or wait it out?

Proposer:

Deadline: January 13, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) They do not do enough or are seen enough outside the Hisstocrat bosses to be worth giving an entire article to.
 * 2) Policy states that we should avoid as many conjectural articles as possible.
 * 3) I think it should go in the Hisstocrat page because his minions have no offical name.
 * 4) Per all.

Comments
@DonnyKD- I see your point, but then Lava Bud and Petit Piranha articles would not exist at all, to name a few, by your logic. --KP (talk) 14:40, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * But those enemies actually have differing stats. These are just small enemies that appear mainly as platforms to hit the boss. But then again, we have an article on those ---ing trees in a race track that do even less than these enemies. 14:51, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * See? I'm doing this for consistency in order to avoid a blue link for the Moving Tree page and no link for these guys who serve much more in the game. If this article can't be created, we should delete the Moving Tree article and much more of them too. --KP (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * Seeing as there is also a Queen Histrocrat what about a Hisstocrat species page.
 * I'm thinking that would also be reasonable, since there's the queen, the king, and the minion. --KP (talk) 15:04, 30 December 2013 (EST)
 * Hisstocrats' species is most likely just snake. I don't believe "Hisstocrat" could be a species.KoopaTroopa!.png MegaKoopa   Talk  20:42, 31 December 2013 (EST)

Species (continuation of above discussion)
"Hisstocrat" is a combination of "Hiss" and "aristocrat", so it can only refer to the king and queen, anyway. Thus far, they're unidentified snakes. User:8BrickMario

Queen Hisstocrat
Shouldn't Queen Hisstocrat be moved to her own article? I mean we got Gobbleguts and Fire Gobbleguts in separate articles despite them being the same guy but with a fiery power up, so shouldn't she have her own article since she's clearly a separate character? -The Forgotten Beast (talk) 13:34, 27 March 2014 (EDT)

Split from Hisstocrat
Yes I know Walkazo said yes to my suggestion but I'm making this a talk page proposal incase there's any reasonable opposition to this, and I know that several points can be made against this split, but I'll explain to people who aren't familiar with the game.

Queen Hisstocrat is simply a recolored "girl" version of Hisstocrat, true, but her boss fight involves fire rather than rock, something already more distinguishable from Behemoth and Behemoth King, both split articles where the stronger version is also a recolored variant (in this case, Behemoth King, simply just a red Behemoth). A good example for the split would be Gobblegut and Fiery Gobblegut or Dino Piranha and Fiery Dino Piranha, both redder and more fiery versions of their original counterpart, but get their own articles. She also gets her own name, Queen Hisstocrat, which furthers the argument that she should be split. Finally, she actually appears alongside Hisstocrat in a later boss fight level, making these two clearly separate individuals who therefore need separate articles.

Proposer: Deadline: November 24, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Comments
Given all those points, there can't be reasonable opposition: just split the page. - 14:48, 10 November 2015 (EST)
 * Okay then, just cancel the proposal and I will split the page. 14:49, 10 November 2015 (EST)
 * You can cancel the proposal yourself.
 * Fine. 15:47, 10 November 2015 (EST)