MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. Signing with the signature code (~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) There are two topics that cannot be decided on through a proposal: the first is sysop promotions and demotions, which are decided by Bureaucrats. Secondly, no proposals calling for the creation of Banjo, Conker or Sonic series articles are allowed (several proposals supporting them have failed in recent history).

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EST)

User Page of the Month
There are many excellent user pages, like Stooben Rooben's, so i say they should be prized, so why not making an user page of the month award?

Proposer: Deadline: November 27, 2008, 17:00

Support

 * 1) Per me
 * 2) I say it would be the user that does alot of good edits and it would have a talk page that could vote for someone and if enough people agree BANG.They win.

Oppose

 * 1) - User Pages are not the point of the Super Mario Wiki, Mario is. Users may care about Community and whatnot, but random Guests looking for Mario information won't, it would just be in their way. Plus, it'd be making some Users seem "better" than others, which is something we've always striven against, and rightly so.
 * 2) - I agree with everything Walkazo said. People may also be biased towards one another.
 * 3) Per all. User page are just for fun their not for FA.
 * 4) Per all. FA user pages will be kinda odd. Not all User Pages are alike, for example look at Stooben Rooben's, than look at Mine. You see, everybody has differnt tastes. Not everybody was created equal.
 * 5) - If we voted against image of the week because "it would be too opinion based," this would be even more so... sorry. :(
 * 6) - Per all. We aren't the 'Super Userpage Wiki' are we?
 * 7) – like cool user lists, this would create competition.
 * 8) - That might cause that users centre on editing their user pages rather than articles. No.
 * 9) - Per Grandy02.
 * 10) -  Per all. I could think of countless reasons against this one.
 * 11) - Per all. Plus, we don't have enough active users for such a thing to even workout anything like good.
 * 12) If we were to even try this, it would probably be more appropriate for Userpedia. Even there, just no.
 * 13) per all. This takes away from more important aspects of the wiki.
 * 14) Per all,If we start this and someone won they could show off.
 * 15) Per all; can't think of a reason that hasn't been mentioned already.
 * Yup, per all.
 * 1) Per all, like many others said, this will become biased against users and a huge arguement will start.
 * 2) All Users are created equal.

Comments
I greatly appreciate the compliment, Tucayo! But, I believe that things like this are outlawed.
 * I still voted against, just in case it's not. -
 * Yeah NG right everone I mean everuser has there own persona.


 * Um don't you means support?


 * Well, this would not work, because the user page is more to tell about the user, but if there was a USER of the month, that might work. The user must have been a user for a certain amount of time (2-4 months?) and must have done a certain number of edits, not on his userpage. Once someone has been elected user of the month, they may not be user of the month untill next year (for example, if mr. marioman 9909 got elected in march 2010, he may not be elected again until April 2011.) The winner would be announced in the shroom, as part of the monthly report? To make sure this will not be a distraction from editing articles, only a few people from the shroom would be a part of this. Even then, I'm not sure it will pass.


 * Your idea is nice.
 * No it's not (no offense); popularity contests are nothing but trouble. Electing Users of the Month is even worse than User Pages of the Month, for the same reasons Stooben Rooben, Wayoshi and I posted against the latter: bias, competition and egomania (or lack thereof if you don't get voted for). -
 * I thought Userpedia already had that. The main page in Userpedia has a box fo FA Users.
 * Okay then, ignore my above comment. I just thought of it as a way to show off hardworking users. But as I said, that probrably wont work.
 * Last time I checked Userpedia, the FAs were about the articles about the Users, not about the Users themselves. -
 * That's exactly what it is. That's why it says "Featured Article", and not "Featured User" or "User of the Month". We're trying our best to avoid being biased, while trying to improve features on our site.
 * Yeah thats what I meant.

Removals
None at the moment.

Mario and Luigi's Parents
For those of you who are unaware, there have been previous discussions regarding whether or not the article Mario and Luigi's Parents should be split into two articles, one for each parent. However, the discussions were based off of the information currently in the article, and as any fan of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! or Nintendo Comics System could tell you, it was very incomplete at the time, and still is, albeit more complete.

Previously, we have left characters such as Ashley and Red together because neither of them does much without the other, and to have two articles would be to restate a vast majority of the same information. However, this is not the case with Mario and Luigi's parents. In fact, the only time they are seen together is the Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island ending. Otherwise, the two appear separately.

To anyone who knows the character well, Mama Mario obviously deserves an individual article: she has an official name (formally given in "Plumbers of the Year" after being called "Mama" by her boys on countless other occasions), has made on-screen appearances in which her face appears, she has speaking roles, and plays integral parts of the plot. This alone puts her ahead of many subjects from The Super Show, such as Cheepy's mother, who did not have an official name and only appeared in one episode. However, the fact is that Mama Mario was referenced almost continuously on the show, the references continued into the later DiC television series, and she also appeared in "Family Album "The Early Years"" and Yoshi's Island. Multiple independent appearances and references place her notability well beyond many characters with their own articles.

There is no argument that Mario and Luigi's father is a much more minor character. He currently has had only two appearances, one in "Family Album" and the other in Yoshi's Island. In both of these, he did not speak and his face was not seen. However, it is very awkward to write an article about such a minor character and such a major character as Mama. Almost the entire article currently is about her, with a small blurb about Mario's father.

I propose we split "Mario and Luigi's Parents" into two articles: "Mama Mario" and "Mario and Luigi's father." The current "Mario and Luigi's Parents" will be made into a disambiguation page to avoid redlinks throughout the Wiki.

Proposer: Deadline: December 1, 2008, 17:00

Support

 * 1) - My reasons are detailed above.
 * 2) - Per Stumpers, these are two diffrent people, why are they merged into one? They deserve to be mentioned.
 * 3) -Per Stumpers and Super-Yoshi.
 * 4) - Good reasons.  They appear independently of each other, so the articles should be seperate.  (I did not know Mario's dad smoked...)
 * 5) - Per all.
 * 6) - Per Stumpers.
 * 7) - Per Stumpers.
 * 8) - Per Stumpers.

Comments
The only quibble someone might have with this split is the speculation about the various aunts, grandparents, nieces and nephews (basically the second and third paragraphs of the introduction of Mario and Luigi's Parents): as we have no way of knowing which side anyone's from, we'll have to discuss them on both articles and list both parents as Siblings to be safe, even though one may not be. But given the circumstances, I think anyone who seriously complains about that is being a tad unreasonable. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention all that for the record, in case anything does come up. -
 * It doesn't seal up all the cracks, but if your parents are married, our uncle on your father's side is your mother's brother-in-law, and therefore her sibling by marriage. We can't confirm that Mario's parents were ever married, but if they ever were, that would make each others' relatives related to them.  Thanks for the support and consideration, Walkazo!  20:14, 25 November 2008 (EST)


 * Disambiguation, not redirect.
 * To Stumpers: Thanks! To Master Hand: good point - it can't redirect to both articles, and redirecting to one would be wrong. The best course of action would be making it a disambig. page right off the bat and then going through and changing all the links to the appropriate parent for our readers' convenience (which I'd be more than happy to help out with). -
 * That's what I meant to right; thanks for noticing that! And Walkazo: I'll be right there with you.

Changes
''None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.