MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code (~).

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
 * 10) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
 * 11) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

New Features
None at the moment.

Qoutes
On really long articles such as Peach, one can see that there are dozens of qoutes, and most of them are completely pointless like:


 * Help
 * "Dear Mario, I'll be waiting for you at the castle on the night of the Star Festival. There's something I'd like to give you. From Peach".

I propose that these either get removed or shortened. I see no promblem with having qoutes, but having so many that arn't even descent (Although that is a matter of opinion) is pointless. What are your thoughts?

Proposer:HyperToad Deadline:Janurary 5, 2008.

Remove Them

 * 1) HyperToad Reason said above.

Keep Them
Pseudo-dino Well, we could probably keep the second one, but we gotta get rid of Help

Comments
As you said, deciding what Quotes are decent and which aren,t is purely a matter of opinion. I think we should use a case-by-case procedure, not everything need to be run throught a proposal. Blitzwing

already had this prospoal, that one -_-'
 * Uh?

Blitzwing

Although it is a matter of opinion, how the heck is "Help" a descent qoute, I'm sure anybody could agree that it's just stupid. HyperToad
 * Rather than argue that it's stupid, you could say it was just one of the exclaimations in SMG put there in order to help guide players rather than significant dialouge. I'd be more willing to delete it then, wouldn't you?  That said, I agree with Blitzwing that these things are too varied for a proposal.  How about just talking on the talk page?  14:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)
 * We already had a proposal about quotes to which it was decided (as Blitzwing suggested here) that relevancy would be decided case-by-case. The first proposal was concerning nonsensical things like "Ahhhh!", but we did touch on ubiquitous-sounding quotes like "help" and we decided that since (in this case) Peach screams for "help" so often it actually does shed some light on her character and therefore is in fact a "decent quote". - Walkazo

Galleries
So I was viewing the site and noticed that a whole bunch the pages (notably Wario) has a section devoted to images, though recently they've been a little too big. I propose that we create galleries for specific characters and merge the images ove there. For example, maybe we could have a page called "Gallery: Wario" or something similar and merge all of the images over there. Or possibly just make a category called "Category: Wario images" and have all the images there for people to view. It seems like there are over 100 images on the page, and I'm sure many will agree that they should all be merged to their own page.

Proposer: Deadline::December 31, 2007, 17:00

Make galleries

 * 1) My reasons above!
 * 2) Blitzwing Save article space.
 * 3) - Similar to the quotes, those get really to long on articles like Princess Peach.
 * 12:41, 24 December 2007 (EST)Category idea seems better than an article just for images.
 * 1) Walkazo - Those image galleries take up too much time and memory to load, having them on seperate pages like quotes is a good idea.
 * 2) -Per everyone.
 * 3) Sounds like a plan.
 * 4) Freakatone 18:10, 28 December 2007 (EST) yup
 * 5) Per Bentendo, and also because we need some order regarding images, so this could help people who are looking for "that one" image.  Plus, then we don't have to nitpick about "This image is just of a Bowser suit." or anything.
 * 6) InfectedShroom.[[Image:infectoicon.png]] |Talk|Reviews| Per everyone. I also think that we should have seperate pages for quotes...
 * 7) There definitely should be gallery pages, that way it doesn't take up so much article space (and maybe they'd load quicker). And if all you were interested in was the gallery, then you could just go to that page.

Nah

 * 1) HyperToad I don't think that images deserve there own page, but it doesn't matter, because I'm out-numbered.
 * 2) If your that dissapointed about article space, just add less images around one corner, jeez.

Comments
Knife: Images in a "Wario Image Category" but not on a page will be marked as unused and destroyed by the devorous Unused Image predators. - 14:32, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Hmmm, would we keep any images on the page?
 * We would only remove the images galleries (official artwork/screenshot galliers), the images in the written article itself stay. - 16:03, 24 December 2007 (EST)

As an aside, many wiki will create gallery-lists when images are placed in a gallery. I tried this once before, and it seems that it doesn't work around here. -- Chris 14:46, 24 December 2007 (EST)
 * What's a gallery list? - 07:24, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Go to any mushroom image and add Category:Mushrooms. What is supposed to happen, Category:Mushrooms will list all the articles in said category, then have a separate section called Images that will list all images in said category in gallery format. However, I tried this before and it didn't work. It just listed a link to the image. -- [[Image:Shyghost.PNG]]Chris[[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 21:17, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Sounds like a task for DPL script. - 17:33, 27 December 2007 (EST)

So does that mean I don't have to do anything?

MiniMariolover10: The problem is: Some article on major characters such as Wario or Luigi have an extensive "gallery" section, which have every artwork/screenshots of the character in question, those pics take up a lot of spaces, but some users are not too happy about removing them. With this proposal, we can cut down the size of some articles while still keeping the images. Blitzwing
 * But we would still have the images, just on a different page.
 * That's what I said.

Blitzwing
 * Major facepalm! I read it wrong, sorry!

This would be a huge project for the Sysops and Beuracrats (not one) and our featured articles like the Yoshi one will be reduced.

Merging Pumpkin Head with Goomba
Pumpkin Heads are absolutely proven to Goombas wearing Pumkins on their heads, so does this make them a new species altogether? No. Listen to the comment I wrote on its talk page over a week ago: ''Should this have its own article? Goombas have worn many things for protection, but wearing a pumpkin head doesn't make one a new species. Its like saying that Mario is another character when he doesn't wear his overalls. And I'm pretty sure Nintendo didn't give it an official name since it wasn't meant to be a new enemy altogether. If you will remember, there were also Goombas with helmets that can be killed almost the same way. I'm sure they wear pumpkins just to give to level a spooky feel.'' It doesn't even have an official name! But I'll leave it up to you guys to decide.

Merge Information

 * 14:51, 22 December 2007 (EST) My reasons are given above
 * 1) Blitzwing Per Knife.
 * 2) Walkazo - Per Knife.
 * 3) - Per Knife. The name isn't even official.
 * 4) If there's no name, then chances are Nintendo meant for them to be one and the same. (RHYMELOLZORZ)
 * 5) THANK YOU.  Just thinking the same thing a few weeks ago.
 * 6) Freakatone I agree completely.
 * 7) - GOOD GOD you take a pumpkin and put it on a goomba, it's only extra health and sometimes leaves blue fire around, MERGE.

Keep Article

 * 1) Whether or not the name is conjectural, it is a sub-species of Goomba. If a Goomba wants to walk around with a pumpkin on its head, then let it be different! The Goombas in the Pit of a 100 trials are called Gloombas (real name), but they are different! Merge pumpkinhead with Goomba, then merge all the different goombas with Goomba!

Comments
This can also be applied to Mask Koopas. - Walkazo
 * Well, unlike the Pumpking head, the Mask Koopas actually have an official name. (Or do they?)

Blitzwing
 * Yeah, they should only be merged if the name is conjectural. So, Pumpkin Heads = Merge with Goomba. Mask Koopa = Keep split if the name is official.
 * Bah, people put too much weight into whether things have official names or not. Ever stopped to consider that all the "conjectually named" things might actually have official names over in the Nintendo databanks? The sprites have to be saved somewhere; sure they'll probably have serial numbers and such, but they're probably named too; it'd be a bit silly if they weren't... - Walkazo

Merge Bird Articles
The Other night I was looking through articles and I came across the Blue Bird, Green Bird, Yellow Bird, and Red Bird. Yellow and Blue barly make any apperances while Red only makes one. I think these are way to insignificent so I say we merge them into on Birds Article Or Minor Speacies of Island Delfino.

Proposer: Luigibros2 Deadline::January 10th, 2008, 17:00

Merge them

 * 1) My Reasons above
 * 2) Same thing, different gifts.
 * 3) Ultimatetoad
 * 4) Celeste 14:46, 29 December 2007 (EST) – they are not different species just because they are colored different and many animals have different colored/patterned coats (like cats).
 * 5) For now I'd say go for it.  If we ever see them again, we'll have to think it over.
 * 6) Walkazo - Their individual articles are three lines each. Merge them and we'll have a decent article. Plus it will be faster to read one page than having to go from one to another, to another...

Let there be Bird articles

 * 1) Although their all rather minor, they are different species', so they each are deserving of an article.
 * 2) I like the seperate articles!
 * 3) Pseudo-dino Gotta agree with Bentendo.
 * 4) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif What Uniju said. Let's see here: Mini Goomba is similar to Goomba. Merge anyone?
 * 5) Leave 'em alone! If we merge the bird articles, we might as well cram all the different species of Koopas into one big article. Same with any other thing that has sub-species.

Comments
Hmmm... While the birds are rather insignificant, they are all seperate creatures with different purposes. For now, I'm neutral on this.

Uniju: Yes, but they are all birds. They only have 2 differences; one is their colour s and two is their coin they give out/

What about Yoshi's. We have Red Yoshi, Yellow Yoshi etc..... should they be merged? - Ultimatetoad
 * Probably not, just because they are specific characters when you look at individual Yoshi's Island games. 14:52, 29 December 2007 (EST)
 * Yeah, but if you look at the Purple Yoshi article it talks about Purple Yoshis in general (the Super Mario Sunshine Purple Yoshis vs. the Yoshi's Island Purple Yoshi). I sorta agree they should all be merged into one article with all the Yoshi subspecies but that would look a bit messy and wouldn't last very long. I think one "Isle Delfino Birds" article will work here because the birds are so minor, whereas Yoshis are real pop-icons when it comes to the Marioverse. - Walkazo

Changes
None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.