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Toys and Merchandise Information in Character articles
It has come to my attention that the things that can be found in Toys and other similar pages should be covered a bit more. If a toy/merchandise happen to represent a specific character, we could put it under a blanket "Merchandise" heading in the character article and describe what it does.

Or, we could continue to neglect the real-world stuff like we alway do. Not that I would be surprised if that's what actually happen. <.< --Blitzwing 15:43, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * Sounds like a good idea to me. It would expand the article, and make it look better IMO. So per Blitz.
 * I have Mario Uno! :3 but yeah, I agree, there should be more coverage. It's like the wiki is split between games and merchandise. There's really no crossover whatsoever, and seeing some would be nice.
 * I think those articles should be split into separate articles (e.g. by toy series). I see nothing what speaks against a coverage of merchandise with individual articles, even if there is usually no "story-line" involved, but they are officially licensed products, like cartoons and comics. Anyway, the articles can't stay in their current form. Only look at Figurines, the pure mess. A bunch of images with very little to no information on the manufacturers, release dates, material, regions where they were released and so on. Just photos with partly biased comments ("cute figurine" or "Hang ten, man!"). That needs to be changed. --Grandy02 09:41, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * "I see nothing what speaks against a coverage of merchandis".

When I threw out the idea on the Sysop board, some disagreed. I agree than the Merchandise articles are an horrible mess, but I own none of these things, so yeah... --Blitzwing 10:11, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * I would like to know what was the point of disagreement. Actually, several things already got own articles ages ago, e.g. Marshmallow Jelly Pop, NSMB Stylus Pens and Super Mario 3D Gummy Candies, and nobody complained. Looks thousand times better than that horrible mess. Whatever will be, the current articles just can't stay in their form. --Grandy02 11:06, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * "Too Minor" was the reason given. --Blitzwing 11:58, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * And those overcrowded pages should stay? I'd support separate articles, it's official merchandise, after all. Well, maybe not articles on all shirts, cups, socks, briefs and other stuff where Mario is just printed on. But figurine, plushie, PEZ and other collections, more special food (e.g. candies formed like Mario), toys, electronic toys, "palpable" games and so on deserve articles in my opinion. Anyway, there really needs to be consensus on this very issue. --Grandy02 13:11, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * Proposal, anyone? That would certainly iron the issue out. And yeah, separate articles would be great, IMO.

100,000,000 Page Views
Back in December 2006, we only had 2,869,440 page views. Page view increase always went up very high when I did my statistics. Now at a rate at least 18 times as much as 12/06, we should reach 200 million views in about another year, maybe 18 months. 15:43, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * That's extremely awesome. Shows that we're a well-established Wiki. But how do we compare to other similar Wikis? Got any statistics?
 * Is it any Mariowiki page views or Main Page views?
 * Views of all pages combined, I think. - 08:56, 8 January 2009 (EST)
 * It's definitely all view of every page on the Wiki, as the Main Page only has a bit over 6,000,000. But wait a minute... does the number include Userspace pages?

Mario & Luigi Infobox Template Thing
Ok, so I made a Enemy Infobox for the Mario & Luigi series. It's lot like the PM one. I was pretty sure someone would complain about it if I just made a huge template and started implementing it, so I thought I'd bring it here. All the info on the infobox (pun completely intended) is in the link I supplied. You can see the template in action here. I need help with the colors, I know.
 * Looks good to me, but there's no tattle in M&L, so how are we going to find HP? Other than that, yea, this should be a great idea.
 * here. People found all the HP, a job which would be really boring, but it is quite useful to me.

Nuke:DPL
Sometimes ago, Wayoshi introduced a tool that allowed deleting multiple pages at once using a few set criteria. However, after this happened, I question the usefulness of the extension:


 * As seen above, anyone insane could nuke the wiki for s*** and giggle. Or heck, the same could happen by complete mistake. As far as I know, the tool can't undelete anything,
 * No one except Wayoshi know the kind of coding needed to operate the extension: The program was put there without any kind of instructions and when we requested that, Wayoshi threw a link to some DPL tutorial that wasn't very helpful.
 * A few things (Such as anything in the null set) are not supported, making the whole thing even more useless.

So yeah, Nuke or no Nuke? --Blitzwing 16:56, 9 January 2009 (EST)

We should get rid of it. I don't think we have the need to eliminate large amounts of articles. --

I agree with SoS.
 * It should definitely be removed. The only time it could ever come in handy is if some vandal made 30+ articles in a matter of minutes; but with vandals like Sonic Rocks who spammed like that, it's easy enough to block the vandal and just manually delete the articles. The coding for NukeDPL is extremely tricky and even the smallest screw-up can cause devastating effects. I tried to use it once, but I was too afraid that I'd end up doing something that I didn't even mean to, and not be able to undo it. 17:36, 9 January 2009 (EST)


 * I'm actually reading about this tool for the first time (which is quite embarrassing for a 'crat, I know that...), but if all it does really is to delete multiple pages at once, I don't see a reason to keep it either. 17:47, 9 January 2009 (EST)

At one point, Wayoshi stated that we could use the DPL to access and delete system generated lists. That is, unused images could be pulled up and mass deleted with the push of a button. He later stated that it couldn't be done. Now we just a WMD plugged into the wiki and, unless someone can come up with an actual use for the thing, I'm all for ditching it. -- Chris 17:58, 9 January 2009 (EST)
 * OK, well, first off, I found it was hilarious that you were talking on #mwawards. But, secondly, yeah, definitely trash it. If someone could do something like that, then definitely get rid of it. One-by-one deletions are time-consuming, but far safer.
 * There was nothing funny about that. --Blitzwing 18:27, 9 January 2009 (EST)