User talk:Stumpers/Archive 6

Also
Toadette4evur has started another edit war with me on the Toadette page. As I was removing quotes even they agreed on the proposal to be gibberish, they keep adding them just because it's their favorite character. You can check the quotes, they are just as much what the proposal considered gibberish as the baby daisy quotes. Fixitup
 * I specifically said that some where questionable.
 * Afterwards you did, and you left them anyway; also, none of them are questionable if none of Baby Daisy's were. Fixitup
 * In my opinion those three quotes you have right now are fine. Can we cut back on the claims of people being biased on the history page, though?  I'm pretty sure gibberish now means statements that have one word or no dictionary words (ie: "ARG, Mario!") or are shared by everyone: ("I'm the Best!" -all the playable characters in Mario Party 3).  Am I behind on the current meaning?  23:18, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

Re: Nintendo Power
OK, I can do that. I can do it after school today, so it might take a little while. But I'll definitely do that. ;)
 * OK, I found the reference in Nintendo Power of Ashley and Red. I put it into the page. I'm not entirely sure I used the right format, though, so could you make sure? Thanks. And glad I could help finding the ref. ;)
 * No problem! And thanks for clearing up the format for me, I'll definitely use that in the future. ;)

Sysop
How do you become a sysop? I just want to know.

RE: Travel Guide, April '08
Excellent work! :D I had no doubts that you could do good. It's really great for your first section, and very in-depth. Keep up the great work! 20:20, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Hey, no problem! I did that the first time I made the obituaries. I posted it on 3D's talk page; ._.' didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that. XD

--http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1b/Mauj.gif 23:36, 30 April 2008 (EDT)Hi Stumpers!

Hallo Stumpers! thanks for motivating me at the University... I'm on the final exams of the (first) semester, and they really kick @$$es O_o 02:17, 1 May 2008 (EDT) on the other hand, today is my birthday (may 1st) :D - and Stooben Rooben will be on may 6th!

Re:Thanks
Huh? Oh, that's nothing. I just thought Blitzwing should maybe talk to other users more nicely, an of course you weren't being a jerk. He maybe just doesn't want users to get technical with him. But you're welcome.

--http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1b/Mauj.gif 18:23, 4 May 2008 (EDT)Hello Stumpers! and you are Sysop?

--http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1b/Mauj.gif 23:25, 4 May 2008 (EDT)Great!!! you are cool!!

Just Saying Hi
Hey, Stumpers! How's it going? I hope it's well. I also wanted to say great job on the Fake News. ;) I knew you'd do well at the job.
 * Yep, it just came out yesterday. A lot of people didn't send in their sections though; I think I'm gonna have to fire Xpike. :O 23:55, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, thanks. And, of course you can stay! You're a part of the team, and one of the best writers. Seriously, I only found two (COUNT 'EM 2) spelling errors in your entire section! That impressed me immediately. So, keep on writing it until you don't want to anymore. ;) I can't wait to read your next section.
 * Yeah, I hope I get it! :D 14:33, 5 May 2008 (EDT)

RE: Happy Birthday and a Question
Thanks! And, the only reason I put it in the template, is because of Aunt Luigeena, who I'm assuming must be the sister of either their mom or dad. But, you remove it if you think that's what's best. ;) 22:10, 8 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No problem! BTW, how've you been doing? 22:18, 8 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, I bet. D: Mom's currently on a hiatus from school (!) because she had 11 teeth pulled from her mouth. When she's better though, *shudders* I sense a mountain of homework.

--http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1b/Mauj.gif 22:51, 8 May 2008 (EDT)Hiii!!!

Ohai
Hey Stumpers whatcha doin? Omg Srsly, What is it like your 100th time playing Superstar Saga XD

RE: Peach Nomination
Well, it does look a bit better, a month or so ago it was only about two sentences long and had a bunch of spelling errors. So I suppose I can withdraw my vote.
 * Yeah, I see your point, but the section in question I couldn't contribute to. I have never played Mario Pinball Land before, so I couldn't expand upon the article without copying a source from somewhere else.  This is why I couldn't back up my opposition with editing (if that makes sense :P)  Glad to see the article's been fixed up a bit though.

Favor
Hey Stumpers can you please delete the Great Giana Sisters page.

Never mind Time Q took care of that. Thanks anyway.

--http://www.mariowiki.com/images/1/1b/Mauj.gif 18:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)Thanks Stumpers!!!

Peach images
Proves that I didn't really read your comments altogether. I didn't think of putting them somewhere else. Stupid me. I don't think any else were removed, as I was undoing an edit which took back all images that were previously removed. - 18:14, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * We did actually have a proposal which wanted images to be put into categories, so that a gallery could be visible in them. The proposal itself passed, but the problem is that images that are only seen in the category are marked as unused (and thus turn up in the unused list which sysops go through and regularly delete), so nothing really happened except for some entries in Category:Mushrooms. - 18:22, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm currently unable to follow you. What do you want to do? - 18:30, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Sounds like a fair idea. We could simply call it "Category: Princess Peach" as well, as categories can have both articles and images. - 18:38, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * More than permission, according to the previous proposal we even should do so. =P Anyway, I think it is better than endless galleries of not really notable screenshots etc. - 18:54, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Fake News Notice
Please PM me your Fake News section by no later than June 5th. There's a crisp, twenty-dollar bill in it for whoever sends in their section first! 15:38, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Er, I don't really know – but I could suggest Twilight Town. I can picture you doing something good with that. As for which method to send to me: I do have an account on the forums, but if it would be easier, you can put it on my talk page. 17:10, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Glad to hear it! :) 17:33, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Hello, again Stumpers!!

Hola
Hi Stumpers I just just want to say hi (Nice travel guide on the Fake News too). (P.S have you met my sis )

RE: Princess Peach FA Nomination
Awesome. I read it, and agree to all terms you listed, so I'm going to support this proposal. I never completely understood the rules of FA Nomination until now; thanks for clearing it up for me. :)  23:52, 19 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I always though you did act like a Sysop. That's why I jumped with glee when you actually got promoted. You're one of the most intelligent users on this wiki; you almost always have great ideas, you easily solve problems amongst users, not to mention your out-of-this-world edits. :D 19:08, 20 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks! ^_^ I kind of fail at proposals though, unless I have your help. And, being a Sysop would be awesome, but I don't know if I'd do good as an authoritative figure. XD 18:54, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, I didn't intend it as an insult to myself. I guess it's more or less I'd be nervous as a new Sysop...at least until I got the hang of it. When I first got promoted at Userpedia, I was nervous as all get out that I might ban someone or delete something accidentally. :O Now, it's not too hard. 18:59, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it is kind of that way, now that you say it. I had always wondered how you Sysops deleted pages so quickly. :O 21:04, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Lolz! Maybe I should give you some ice cream then. :P 21:54, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * =O I bet! XD 19:39, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Hello Stumpers!! check this video! .

Birdo
I have posted an explanation on Birdo's talk page. Yes, it may seem repetitive, but when you think about it, the only thing that needs to be resolved with that is rewrite the sentences so that they don't all start with Birdo is or Birdo did. It's actually more proper to refer to someone as their name at most times, but I see what you mean. I will visit the Vivian article as well. Gender controversy happens to be a large issue related to video-games for some reason. ForeverDaisy09

REALLY?
I wanted to nominate it, but I just assumed I would get a bunch of opposes. I'll nominate it if you think I should! I was also trying to create a voice actor template, but I'm not good with templates. ForeverDaisy09
 * Agh! You even added my name to the interview! I was gonna do that also, but I thought that might get changed! Haha!ForeverDaisy09

Yes, alright. Here's some info like you wanted. The interview was done through email. Started [Fri, 5/30/08], and finished [Sun, 6/1/08].ForeverDaisy09

Notice: Fake News
Stooben Rooben has resigned as acting director of the Fake News, I will be taking over for the time being, please PM me (not Stooben Rooben) your 'Shroom Sections.
 * I believe the 'Shroom is coming out tomorrow so try and have the section in before tomorrow.

Just to help you: Xzelion's name on the forum is now "Axhole" (Ahahaha).

Nice section, BTW. --Blitzwing 18:06, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks, Blitz! I try. ;)  By the way, I'm up for ideas on the next Travel Guide if there's a favorite place of yours...  02:00, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
 * WHOMP FORTRESS WHOMP FORTRESS WHOMP FORTRESS. --Blitzwing 14:09, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Splitting movie characters
I think it is a good idea splitting movie incarnations of characters, especially Princess Daisy and the likes. I'd support a proposal in that direction. - 16:35, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I would as well. I am thinking that we keep it in the same article though. For example, there would be a headline in Mario's article saying "Mario's personality in the Super Mario Movie". Clay Mario


 * The inclusion or lack of allowed information has always been based on its significance to the overall series (For example, how important is it to the series that Baby Daisy said, "Eeh, he, he, he!" instead of "Ooh, ho, ho, ho!". Not very, so those quotes were removed.)  That is why I have reacted so strongly to the proposal to remove information based on one user's personal ideas of canon rather than the importance to the series.  As one user pointed out, Nintendo Power called Mario, "Mario Mario", which was a phenomenon that began after the movie -- I can get you a source for it not existing prior.  Even though the movie isn't in the same continuity as the video games (there's not way anyone can argue that... I've tried to think of one but I can't), it is still a part of the Mario series' history.


 * So, I'm glad that you are willing to look at splitting the pages as a solution. Not only will that clear things up about which facts apply to which continuity, it will keep users from pulling valid, important information off of the Wiki.  What I'm thinking is this: we could connect the two articles together with a "Main" template and include a small blurb regarding the differences of video game and movie Mario.  This would also cut down on the space issue in the character articles.  I'd like to discuss this with you more, but I must get to sleep.  Cobold, you and I should discuss both this proposal and the proposal for the MarioWiki:Canonicity page in the coming days.  Thanks for your time, both of you.  03:35, 8 June 2008 (EDT)


 * This way, we could also completely split the Koopalings, which already have entirely different names in the Super Show. They are currently only in one article because of their appearance being the same, but they appear in alternate continuities. The problem with splitting all these is, of course, when there's not only a single movie page to split, but numerous comics which all have their own Mario. We'd better be careful on how far we want to go with this. - 09:28, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I would say that the movie is the only thing we'd want to split out for now. As you know, it's the only incarnation of Mario that is universally recognized as not being continuous with the rest of the series.  To do anything more is just asking for lengthy, heated discussion that ultimately achieves nothing at the very least.  (I'm glad you recognize that!)  I think a history lesson is in order about the Koopalings: they were renamed because back when the Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 entered production, Nintendo of America had yet to give the Koopalings official names.  I really don't think a name change would be a good reason for a split.  Think of it: Princess Toadstool to Peach.  Jumpman to Mario.  Donkey Kong to Cranky Kong.  16:48, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Crossover Info Proposal
Yeah, I still think that's two much. 1-3 sentences should be enough.

I was actually going to mention this on the comments, but it seemed out of place. I was thinking maybe characters WITHOUT SSB Trophies - Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest characters, for example - could get a SLIGHTLY more detailed description. Nothing TOO big, tho.

I still think your example was a BIT too long. But, otherwise, that's the basic gist of it. We can always link to other Wikis, as well. ;)

Birdo in SMB2
Is it confirmed that the Birdo from SMB2 is the character Birdo? I figured I could ask you because I think I remember you saying something about that in your "split page between character and species" proposal. 18:12, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * CrystalYoshi, there are about 16 different Birdos in Super Mario Bros. 2, so we don't know.
 * No, it was only one Birdo according to the instruction manual, and, in the remake, the voice acting. I wrote more about it on the page, and no, it doesn't make sense that a creature could change her skin color, but hey, this is Mario I suppose.  18:29, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * If I remeber right, the SMA strategy guide said "Did you know that there are exactly (can't remember the number) Birdos in the game" or something like that, I'll have to dig out the guide.
 * That could refer to Birdo fights, or Birdo incarnations...I've never really put THAT much thought into Birdo but I'm pretty sure that the description is of one Birdo. Goomb-omb 18:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Historyically (this can, of course be argued...), the games and their manuals hold presedence over game guides, especially if that's a 3rd party guide (since SMA was released while Nintendo Power was still doing guides). 01:26, 14 June 2008 (EDT)