MarioWiki:Proposals

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Merge all doctor versions of characters into their respective article (excluding Dr. Mario)
Currently, with the recent release of Dr. Mario World as well as recent information planning many more doctor variants of characters, I propose that we merge all doctor alter-egos into their respective articles. As it stands, there's going to be plenty of them, and having separate articles for all variants of each character is excessive and makes it difficult to navigate. It's also not like none of the information they have can't easily be stated in their respective articles under a respective Dr. Mario World header and adding necessary information to their respective stats pages.

Of course, Dr. Mario himself is an exception to this rule, solely because he has appeared as a separate character from Mario in the Super Smash Bros. series (and a weird obscure Kondansha's Mario manga) and considering his veteran status of appearing in multiple games of a series even named after himself, I think it's better off his page remains the way it is.

Articles affected:


 * Dr. Luigi
 * Dr. Bowser
 * Dr. Peach
 * Dr. Toad
 * Dr. Yoshi (red-linked on the Dr. Mario World page)
 * Dr. Toadette (red-linked on the Dr. Mario World page)
 * Dr. Bowser Jr. (red-linked on the Dr. Mario World page)
 * Dr. Wendy (red-linked on the Dr. Mario World page)
 * Dr Ludwig (red-linked on the Dr. Mario World page)
 * Any of the potential planned doctor characters (eg Dr. Baby Luigi)

Proposer: Deadline: July 17, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) I really just want an excuse to write Dr. Baby Luigi. Yes he's canon now.
 * 2) Per Baby Luigi. No, not this one.
 * 3) - These aren't separate characters or a new power-up, it's literally the same character in a different outfit. While that and the new abilities could qualify them as a power-up, there's no "Doctor Mushroom" or anything involved here.
 * 4) - I'm almost certain that it's just a costume intended to fit the aesthetic of the series, so full support.
 * 5) oh no they have a different outfit, clearly we must overanalyze the same character by trying to make a new page for it. Yeah...no. As Alex said over there, there is no transformation or change here besides clothing. If we were to switch how we approach costume changes to all other games, think of how truly awful Super Mario Odyssey would be. With the exception of like...Luigi, most of those pages are short enough that an extra paragraph wouldn't hurt.
 * 6) Per Trig Jegman.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Per  Alex95 and Owencrazyboy9
 * 9) Per all. Although, I'm wondering if Dr. Luigi should be kept because he was in other games...but that would be the only reason to keep his article.
 * 10) Per proposal, though if we're going to limit coverage of the doctor personas then I figure we should also add a character identifier to the current "Dr. Mario" article and make either the game or series the main article.
 * 11) Per all.
 * 12) The moment I saw the potential for all those other Dr. characters, I immediately thought "are all these articles REALLY going to be necessary?" Heck I even thought of making a proposal myself, but you beat me too it. Either way, I fully support merging all of them into their original characters (and despite his earlier establishment, even Dr. Luigi). I also agree with Dr. Mario as the exception. Basically, you beat me to the punch so per all.
 * 13) Yeah, my immediate thought was that this is going way overboard and only done for consistency with Dr. Mario. If there was more to say about their doctor personas, I'd think twice, but there's barely anything interesting to say about them, even Dr. Luigi.
 * 14) Per all, I was planning on questioning this myself anyway.
 * 15) Sure, per all.
 * 16) Per all.
 * 17) Strongly agree. These characters are clearly just the same regular ones with a coat and some sort of doctor license, they are not separate. I would argue that even if we treat Dr. Mario as separate as well due to him being in more stuff and such, he is technically just Mario in the end, just another variant and we know variants of characters can appear in the same capacity during events such as Mario Kart for example. Bottom line aside from Dr. Mario, i think others having their own page would be more confusing, messy and highly pointless.
 * 18) Per all.
 * 19) Per proposal; I started having second thoughts as more doctors were announced (though I should have anticipated this with it having gacha elements and all).
 * 20) Per all.
 * 21) That intrigued me for a while. Proof that they're separate?
 * 22) Per all.
 * 23) Dr. Mario is a dirty doctor.
 * 24) Especially considering what is stated in the comments - that these doctors literally are just outfit changes, not even forms - and considering how many pages with little content would need to be made, it's just better to add these to the character pages

Oppose

 * 1) Well, For one, they are all different charaters, two, they all have different stats.

Comments
@HEROMARIO: No, they're not different characters - the opening scene after Stage 10 literally has Peach and Bowser throw on doctor clothing to help Mario stop the virus outbreak in the Mushroom Kingdom. Secondly, their stats are different? Every single Mario spin-off game has each character go through slightly different statistics each game, so that argument is also not valid at all. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:26, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * Shouldn't this be a multi-option proposal? Consistent with the Bowser forms proposal, if there is someone interested in merging everyone including Dr. Mario (which i'd prefer it stays). -- 02:01, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
 * Merging Dr. Mario would be a mess, and even if it passed the page would have to remain to cover Smash. I doubt anyone would support it. And even if Dr. Mario is just Mario, there's precedent for splitting alter-egos that have enough information to warrant their own article. Besides, just because it's not an option here doesn't mean it can't be brought up as a TPP later. -- 13:30, July 11, 2019 (EDT)

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