Talk:Mario Land

Needs more info.
I have not played this game so I looked it up on Mariowiki. I was looking up the places to go or whatever. However when I looked on it I noticed it had a lack of writing. It needs to be expanded. Thanks to anyone who can! I am goombob and I love paper mario games (talk) 18:26, 17 May 2013 (EDT)Goombob

Can
someone put an article on Mario Land (playground)? I never played MP2, so I dunno. Unshy Guy (talk) 07:19, 3 November 2013 (EST)
 * That's got nothing to do with Mario Party 2, I think it may have been an amusement park in Japan.

Split this article
This article tries to tie both the Mario Land from Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins and the Mario Land from Mario Party 2. I don't get this logic. One is a location for a fat plumber's expedition through his former one and only kingdom to kill an even fatter doppelgänger. The other is a dismal prison camp world built by dreams, a hub which is the general location for each board. How one can assume this and this, spanning from two unrelated series, are the same thing is just laughable.

New articles
 * Mario Land (Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins)
 * Mario Land (Mario Party 2)
 * Mario Land disambiguation page, which includes Super Mario Land.

This should adhere to our naming policy since both are the ultimate location for the game they appear in, so the usual modifiers (level, location) will be inappropriate.

Proposer: Deadline: May 23, 2014 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) There has to be a reason the Mario Party 2 part of this article feels so disjointed from the rest.
 * 2) Per Mario.
 * 3) I don't even think this warrants a talk page proposal. The connection is so loose that it should have been split off in the first place
 * 4) Things with the same name that are different should be separate.
 * 5) Per proposal.
 * 6) Per all.

Oppose

 * 1) This can probably really go either way since there doesn't seem to be any obviously direct connections other than the name and theme, but I had the impression that it was supposed to be the same Mario Land given that Wario was the one who started the objections and that certain liberties can be explained by the game's storyline apparently being a play reinactment. Sure, the locations seem to be different - but there isn't a disambiguation page for all the versions of, for instance, the Mushroom Kingdom or Donkey Kong Island, and like those examples it appears that Mario Land fits the same overall description in each appearance.

Comments
I don't know, Blofos, but there can be arguments saying that they're the location with the same name, so they should stay merged. I'll play it safe, especially with a fairly bold move like this. 18:50, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
 * Which is why we split these articles 18:53, 9 May 2014 (EDT)

@LinktheLefty: Mushroom Kingdom and Donkey Kong Island are usually the general locations, being the main setting of the series, usually. Their appearances can vary, but we tend to assume they're the same thing. It's kind of like Peach's Castle; the design varies, but we still think it's the same castle because of some continuity. Peach lives there, incompetent Toad guards patrol the place, and it's always treated as an important hub.

Continuity is a key word here, I think. Mario Land, on the other hand, with only two appearances, have no connection whatsoever. I interpret Mario Land in Super Mario Land as a distinct land from Mushroom Kingdom while the one in Mario Party 2 is just a theme-parkish place set in the sky. There is no continuity between the two, so we should treat them as separate entities. 19:52, 14 May 2014 (EDT)