Talk:Bubble Dayzee

Is the name...
Is the name Bubble Dayzee official or conjectural? If official, what is the source? -- Son of Suns

TMK, I couldn't find any other sources. - Yoshi Master

I'm sure they were called Bubble Dayzees (they might have spelled it "Daisy," but I don't remember) in the Yoshi's Island player's guide. - Batsy
 * Not sure about the English guide, but the German strategy guide doesn't list them as seperate enemies at all. Then again, it also doesn't list the Gargantua Blargg (it only lists the small variation & Nep-Enut), so they may just have forgotten about them.--vellidragon 10:10, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Reconsider?
As a discussion about the Red Coin variant of the Bandit is running, i'd like to open this as well. Shall we reconsider it, and merge to the actual page? -- 12:40, January 28, 2020 (EST)
 * I'd support that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:23, January 28, 2020 (EST)
 * I also do, hence why i opened this discussion. -- 13:00, January 30, 2020 (EST)

Merge to Crazy Daisy
I'm pretty much aware that this page has been split for quite a lot longer than i thought, and is only split because of the separate entry it was given on the English guide. The Japanese version doesn't even difference them. ALthough, unlike the two other colors, this one behaves differently instead of being an aesthetic change, it's like the Koopas, but only one has a behavioral difference. The only reason it was kept split as well is because of a separate filename, so did the Red Coin variant of the Bandit. Now that it's merged, let's get to this.

Proposer: Deadline: March, 16, 2020 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Another important detail is that in SPM, the Dayzee "song" is redesigned to look like a bubble iirc, which along with the color ties them together further. Them appearing in YNI with no official guide differentiating them (despite certain Boo Guys getting official differentiation at that point) is further notable. The only differentiation they get here is in filenames, which as with the case of the Bandits, is dimply a way to avoid getting metaphorical wires crossed in coding. EDIT: OK, not as much as I thought on the SPM thing, probably confused it with Cherbil, though my belief on this still stands. Note that I withheld from making it as I consider it able to go both ways, but I'll agree regardless.
 * 3) Per all.

Oppose

 * 1) - They have a different English name, a different appearance, and behave differently, so this should stay split.
 * 2) - Per TheDarkStar.
 * 3) - What... This is like merging Bullet Bill and Bouncing Bullet Bill, just because "they're like Koopas". Per both.
 * 4) - Per TheDarkStar.
 * 5) Per all. I have to say the extent that variant mergers are starting to go to is getting concerning.
 * 6) - Per all.

Comments
@DarkStar No, they don't have a "different appearance," the PM Crazee Dayzees use their appearance. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:35, March 2, 2020 (EST)
 * They still behave differently and have a different name. MikhailMCraft (talk • contribs) 11:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)
 * "Behave differently", that's like Koopas. And different name, in English only. -- 13:04, March 2, 2020 (EST)
 * Also, TheDarkStar, look different, so did both Koopa variants. -- 13:05, March 2, 2020 (EST)
 * "They behave differently" is not valid. Crazee Dayzees in SMW2 and PM also behave differently from each other. In no non-PM game can Dayzees put you to sleep. Now, be that as it may, this is far less sturdy than the things I try to merge, which is partially why I didn't propose it. However, it is very much worth saying that the YNI guidebook didn't split this but did split Bouncing Bullet Bill. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:48, March 2, 2020 (EST)
 * I don't know why you're using behavioral differences between games in completely different genres as an argument. PM has other stuff like headbonking Goombas, Pokeys that fling their body parts to attack, and Dry Bones that are weak to fire that you generally don't see in the platformers. The fact that Crazee Dayzees can induce sleep in that series is irrelevant. 03:41, March 3, 2020 (EST)

@Obsessive Mario Fan, "It's like merging the bouncy variant of Bullet Bill to the original page" is not a valid argument, as unlike that, the Panji-san (Panzy-san) did not receive a separate Japanese name in Yoshi's New Island. -- 02:06, March 3, 2020 (EST)

Waluigi Time, you mean like splitting variants of Koopas, which aren't much separate, right? -- 02:19, March 3, 2020 (EST)

Additional note that should have been in the header: the only source to split these is also the source that split "Short Fuse" and "Seedy Sally" from "Grinder" (or Ukiki), something we additionally no longer recognize. It also split "Hopping Tap-Tap" (which we never recognized), "Submarine Nep-Enut" (which isn't different from Nep at all), "Blue Boo" (which is no different from Boo Balloon at all either), and other such things. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:51, March 3, 2020 (EST)