MarioWiki:Proposals

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/dessert1.jpg A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then start to discuss on the issue. 24 hours after posting the proposal (rounding up or down to the next or previous full hour, respectively, is allowed), the voting period begins. (The proposer is allowed to support their proposal right after posting.) Each proposal ends at the end of the day one week after voting start. (All times GMT).
 * 3) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
 * 4) Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. The voter can remove or rewrite his/her own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another User's vote lies solely with the Administrators.
 * 5) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 6) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 7) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 8) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 9) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 12) Proposals cannot be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 13) If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
 * 14) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in GMT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Monday night at 23:59 GMT, the deadline is the night of the Tuesday of the next week at 23:59 PM. If it is posted a minute later, the deadline is 23:59 PM of the Wednesday of the next week, since midnight is considered to be part of the next day, as 00:00 AM.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format
This is an example how your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". - ===[insert a title for your Proposal here]=== [describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

Proposer: Voting start: [insert a voting start time here, f.e. "2 January, 2010, 14:00". Voting start times are 24 hours after the time at which the proposal was posted, as described in Rule 2 above.] Deadline: [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the voting start, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
 * 1) [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments==== - Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert " # at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

How To

 * 1) All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages effected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place  under the heading.
 * 2) All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
 * 3) Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. There is no 24 hour delay between the posting of a talk page proposal and the commencement of voting.
 * 4) Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
 * 5) The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Merge Nurse Toadstool into Princess Peach (Discuss) Deadline: September 18th, 2010 at 23:59 GMT.
 * Merge Mega Mushroom House into Toad's House (Discuss) Deadline: September 27, 2010 23:59 GMT.

New Features
None at the moment

Removals
''None at the moment.

Changes
None at the moment.

Making Articles for Keys
I think we should make articles on different keys in the Mario series. The reason this came to me is because I found an article, Station Key, on a key in Paper Mario: TTYD. Then I thought that if this key article can be made, then we can make a whole bunch of key articles, for example, Pit Key (found in the Pit of 100 Trials) and Dimension Key (found in the Whoa Zone) from Super Paper Mario. I made those redirects to Key for now.

Proposer: Voting start: 19 September, 2010, 9:00 GMT Deadline: 26 September, 2010, 23:59 GMT.

Oppose

 * 1) This will result in many un-needed stubs which will take up space. I don't even know why the Station Key article is there. The information is definitely covered somewhere else. Why else do you think your previous Paper Mario proposal failed?
 * 2) I am Zero! Yet again, unneeded articles which will end up as stubs. Zero signing out.
 * 3) Well, the keys do not have sufficient information about them to make good articles, also they are not notable enough for it.
 * 4) They're just the same thing with a different name.
 * 5) "List of Keys" would be a good article. The "Station Key" should be merged into "Key".
 * 6) Keys are keys, why give them all their own articles? They are too minor and simply belong in the Key article.

Comments
Shouldn't this be a TPP on Talk:Key?

Another Paper Mario pointless item page creation proposal? Why don't we just make a List of Keys or something?

I concur, this proposal should be a Talk Page Proposal, as this obviously does not involve the the Wiki itself.
 * A TPP on Station Key would be concerning the Key article itself, this one is about creating articles that are keys. The badge one is very similar, it would have been a TPP on Badges if we went by what you were saying.

Yoshi's games: A matter of clarification
You know, it seems that the way the Smash Bros. games label Yoshi as its own franchise is actually more of a total joke than anything, seeing as they still qualify as Mario games.

How many Yoshi games have had Mario and other Mario characters in predominant roles? A lot of them. Even Yoshi's Story has Baby Bowser and New SMB Wii has Kamek. AND Yoshi Topsy Turvy has regular Bowser!

Furthermore, in Melee's adventure mode, there are a group of Yoshis in the first Mario-based level. And after the Metroid level comes Kirby. Extra proof that Yoshi games are still Mario games. (Oh, and some Brawl stickers that work on the Mario gang even work on Yoshi)

Wario and DK actually struggle to stand out more from Mario. Yoshi...does not.

Proposer: BooDestroyer 01:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Voting Starts: 1:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC) Deadline: 24:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Comments
I fixed it, forgive me if I'm wrong.
 * Wrong about what? BooDestroyer 02:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Umm... what exactly are you proposing?
 * Yoshi games are still Mario games at heart. So there's no need to label them as their own franchise. Even Smash itself is saying that.


 * The only reason Yoshi has his own icon in those games is for easier identification. Even if his icon was a mushroom, still no major difference whatsoever. Maybe it's only done like that because of Yoshi's Story when SSB N64 came out. BooDestroyer 02:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * AKA this proposal is to change the definition of the currently classified "Yoshi games" into "Mario games".
 * Yes. They...really...are... BooDestroyer
 * The proposal is unclear, but from what I can comprehend, it is alright the way it is.
 * Was I not that clear? Read carefully, will you? BooDestroyer

The Yoshi series is a sub-series of the Mario series. So while it is part of the Mario series, it's uh... a sub series. It's a little different. And the Yoshi series is marked as a separate series from the Mario series in the SSB games so...
 * Looks like somebody hasn't even read what was said. BooDestroyer
 * Look, Yoshi is a independent series of its own. It has many characters/enemies that orginated in the Yoshi series that the Mario series uses. Also, the levels, platforms, and even bosses aren't near similar to the Mario Series. Face it, it would be like Merging Mario and Yoshi into one article.
 * That is the idea. They really are the same. Smash only did that to give Yoshi better identification, but he still maintains as a Mario character. BooDestroyer
 * Look, I hate to bring it to this, but I'm going to make a music reference to better clear what I am saying. The flute is a woodwind instrument, yet it is independent because it differs in many ways from the rest of the woodwinds (aka Clarinets and Saxophones). The Flute is Yoshi, and the Woodwind is Mario. SSB series gave it its own series because it is independent, and stands out from the Mario series like Donkey Kong and Wario.

The styles of the two games are different too. Yes, both are platforming, but both have different concepts. Next thing you will be saying is that we merge Mario and Baby Mario.

No offense BooDestroyer, but this dosent make much sense to me. This is like saying that Godzilla has appeared in a video game so we should make him an article.