MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split Flower into two separate articles (Discuss) Deadline : March 17, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Delete Pizza (Discuss) Deadline : March 17, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Overhaul Mushroom World page (Discuss) Deadline : March 19, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Delete Plumber (Discuss) Deadline: March 20, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Delete Plumb Fu (Discuss) Deadline: March 20, 2014, 23:59 GMT
 * Split the Pipe Frame and/or the Gold Standard from Kart (Discuss) Deadline: March 21, 2014, 23:59

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Mobile View
Quite a while ago the following proposal was made on the MarioWiki, back then it was denied by most people. Right now I'm proposing a very smiliar but yet different idea. While I'm not suggesting an iPhone app (that was in the original proposal.) I however do suggest to make a mobile version of the site. Using the MobileFrontend extension it is possible to make a mobile version of the wiki. For an example of how it would look like: Go to Mobile Wikipedia if you want to see how it looks. Proposer: Deadline: March 17, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) It makes quickly editing a section easily, while not necessarily creating an entire app.

Oppose

 * 1) Sorry, but that's very uneeded. You can still look up the MarioWiki on the Internet.
 * 2) I used MarioWiki in my phone, and aside from the stupid ads (due to lack of adblocker) and long loading times for, like, Mario, I don't think it's REALLY necessary. It's nice, but Wikipedia has a mobile version because it's so much more visited than MarioWiki, which appeals to a more niche audience. I don't think it's worth it to go through the pains to create a mobile version of this wiki. Whatever Randombob-omb is saying is silly, though.
 * 3) I am using right now, and I always use it on my smartphone. It is hard to load long pages, but it loads. The only problem for me is the edit box: It glitch all times that passes 100 lines. After it, I can't edit.

Comments
@Mario: SILLY!??????!!!! I'm very certain that it's uneeded, do you call that silly!?.
 * Your only statement to back up your opinion is, "You can still look up the MarioWiki on the Internet."
 * Yeah, lol, you need the internet to access MarioWiki :P
 * Reading the oppositions I understand that it seems like a lot of work, trust me, all you have to do is to change a few lines in a file and upload a folder, that's it (I've done it on my own wiki)
 * Does it cost any more? This kind of stuff, I think you should discuss with Steve, because I have no knowledge how this works.
 * Nope that's it (I would do it myself but I don't have ftp access (and let's leave it at that too.)) And who is Steve?
 * Steve (aka User:Porplemontage) is the proprietor of this wiki. You should probably talk to him about the technical aspect of this proposal.
 * How, should I ask on his User Page or...?
 * Best to talk to him on his user talk page.
 * Only if the proposal passses right?
 * It's up to you, but I'd say that it'd be better to work out all of the details before the proposal passes.
 * So this proposal is unnecessary right?
 * Well... even if you get the A-OK from Steve, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's what the community wants.
 * Ok so I will just have to wait and see...

Remove fake templates
All those fake reminders, construction templates etc. are useless to the Mario Wiki. They should stick with all the "real" templates.

e.g. of fake:

 My userpage is under construction. Therefore, please excuse its informal appearance while it's being worked on. I hope to have it completed in a few weeks.

e.g. of real:

 It has been requested that this page should be rewritten and expanded to include more information.

All I am requesting is that the 1st example and similar templates shouldn't be allowed to be made anymore, to assist articles, not for humor.

Proposer: Deadline: March 13, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal

Oppose

 * Um, why? The templates aren't doing any sort of harm at all; they're even useful in some instances of userspace. Why are you so insistent in limiting what users what to do with their pages? Granted, we don't encourage excessive editing to the userpages in the wiki but this? It's ridiculous.
 * 1) There's no way for me to read this as anything but "users can't customize their own pages".
 * 2) What else can we use? If people start using real templates, their user pages (which can't be edited by anyone but them and sysops) will be put in the template's respective category (i.e. the Rewrite Requested category), which are categories specifically meant for mainspace pages only. All using real templates will do is unnecessarily fill up categories and cause confusion.
 * 3) Per my sister and the beeping flat guy.
 * 4) What? Their's nothing wrong with them, some user just do fake templates for fun.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) &mdash; Per all. This proposed change would be relatively invasive, a hassle for the administration and community to enact (since it is only the individual member and the administrators that can edit a user page), and will create organizational problems on the wiki.
 * 8) BAD WORDING ALERT! If we end up using it like that, it'll look like the userpage is a wiki article that everyone should work on (even though they can't). Per all (especially Lord G.).
 * 9) Per all, (and Mr. Game & Watch in particular).

Comments
Dude, fake templates aren't even being used anymore, so I really don't see the point behind this. --KP (talk) 20:58, 6 March 2014 (EST)
 * Uh, yes, they are being used. Any time you see a modified template on the userpage (such as status) qualifies as a "fake" template, since the definition of what exactly constitutes as a fake template isn't clear.

Just to be clear, OP, are you suggesting users use "real" rewrite/construction templates for userspace? --Glowsquid (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2014 (EST)

Disallow signatures only in voting
A.K.A. signatures should be allowed in comments section in general.

Okay okay we had this proposal way back, which is basically what I'm proposing: we loosen the No-Sig policy by allowing signatures in more places, specifically, the comments section. One of the main reason the proposal failed is that it's "too complicated". Now, I've said approximately one year ago that it's not complicated; it's just poor wording. To sum it up, this proposal, if passed, disallows signatures only in voting. This is simple and straightforward to follow. With the current ruleset, we can sign in talk page proposal comments, but not comments in Featured Articles and here? THAT'S the more complicated one.

The only valid argument from the opposition, then, is that signatures can increase loading times. While true, the space that is saved is miniscule. MarioWiki project pages (like this one and the Featured Article pages), the pages that disallow signatures, are much smaller than a lot of mainspace talk pages (Talk:Mario Kart 8, Talk:Mario, Talk:Bowser) which do allow signatures. I recall that MarioWiki used to run in a MUCH slower server than it is now. Or maybe it's just me. Either way, (for me at least) the main reason a page loads slowly is its size, not from the amount of signatures it has.

The biggest reason I'm proposing this, however, is that again and again, people often make comments and sign with their signatures, and somebody else comes in and makes an insignificant change back to. Enforcing the No-Sig policy, in this case, feels so... unproductive. At least, for me.

Of course, if there are exceptions, it must be stated (and for a good reason). But that's not the point of a rule. A rule is supposed to help people contribute, not have them waste their time "correcting" one signature in a comment section.

After all, signing with ~ after a comment is supposed to be a good habit.

Proposer: Deadline: March 13, 2014, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) There is a good reason to bar signatures in voting, but there is hardly good reason to bar signatures in comments sections.
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) I fully get it now and I'm good. Per proposal.
 * 4) I use Wikia a lot, and most of those wikis there require signatures with ~.
 * 5) Per all
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Per proposal.
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) &mdash; Per Mario.  is good for voting because it makes tallying neat and efficient, but there is no reason to ban signatures from the comments. If there is a coding error in a signature that causes interruptions on the page, the error itself should be corrected rather than just enacting a stop-gap solution.
 * 10) Per all.
 * 11) Per all.

Comments
Sorry, but I'm a bit confused, is this proposal allowing people to sign with their signature in the comments of propsals/FA nominations or disallowing it?
 * Disallowing signatures only in voting simply means that signatures are allowed everywhere else except for voting. So, yes, it allows people to sign with their signatures in comments sections.
 * After all, people are already barred from using their fancy signatures in the comments of proposals/FA nominations anyway.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment