User talk:Jelly Soup

Baby Bowser
- Lists him as having a rivalry with Mario since birth.

- Do a Ctrl + F for Baby Bowser, Bowser Koopa Jr. (no, do not change it to this, as it is fanon) and Mini-Bowser (for Koopa Kid).

And I assume you used the first of the FAQs at Super Mario Sunshine, but they are dead wrong, and that's all there is to it. - A Link to the Past 16:37, 23 Sep 2005 (EDT)

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SSBM vs. the game the character shown up in. Which would you take as truth?

As for the Character FAQ, no, that's all opinion. I know spacepope and I are friends and he even admitted that he took some liberties.

And as for the FAQs, I checked there first, all of them have him listed as Baby Bowser (and not just on GFAQs).

But, fine, you want to list misinformation, go ahead. I'm not going to fight with you. - Jelly Soup 2:34pm, 23 Sep 2005 (PST)
 * Uh, it's pretty clearly indicated that Baby Bowser IS Bowser. For one, Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr. have a different appearance. For another, Baby Mario and Baby Luigi were fated to defeat him in the future. For ANOTHER, I'd really like you to show me a game with Bowser Jr. (such as Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball or Super Mario Sunshine) where he's referred to as "Baby Bowser." There's also this - and, unless you can actually FIND these quotes, I'm inclined to go with Hal over FAQ writers (and if you check GameFAQs, some of them don't even use Baby Bowser). - A Link to the Past 18:36, 23 Sep 2005 (EDT)
 * It would do well if you didn't accuse me of lying or called my information false because a bunch of FAQs say it to be Baby Bowser. They also say his name is Shadow Mario. One FAQ I saw called Seaking (from PokÃ©mon) Neptune. Let's go with the games (SMS did not in fact give Bowser Jr. a name); ever play Mario Kart: Double Dash!!? - A Link to the Past 23:01, 25 Sep 2005 (EDT)

You seem bound and determined to argue about this. Iâ€™m sticking with what I said to begin with: Iâ€™m not going to fight with you about this. I know that you are listing false information (even in the face of Nintendos inability to properly continue a story), but proving that would require me to take screen shoots, which requires a digital camera, which I donâ€™t have.

Why did you even post anything? I havenâ€™t said anything about Bowser of any kind since your last spewing. - Jelly Soup 8:35, 25 Sep 2005 (PST)
 * Because you're violating the unwritten (here, at least) policy of civility. So, of course, I'm lying. It is virtually impossible for FAQ writers to be WRONG about a game where Bowser Jr.'s name is never given. I guess his name is Mini Shadow Mario Baby Bowser Koopa Junior, because several FAQs use those terms to describe him in said game. Every single FAQ on GameFAQs related to Mario Kart DD uses Bowser Jr., that cancels out your FAQs. Why? Because it would defy logic for them to give him a fake name when there is clearly a name available. So yes, if you wanna go around slandering me because I don't agree with some idiotic theory you cooked up, that Hal, Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (made by Nintendo EAD, supervised strictly by Shigeru Miyamoto), and everyone else that uses Bowser Jr. (including Camelot!) are wrong, go ahead. But you'll look like a damned fool. - A Link to the Past 03:52, 26 Sep 2005 (EDT)

They did use the name Baby Bowser in Sunshine. In english. With letters. Size 6 font. It's not my problem that you missed it.

I can't get the proof, so I'm leting it go. Hell, I let it go a few days ago, why can't you? - Jelly Soup 1:54, 26 Sep, 2005 (PST)
 * So, wait, he's Baby Bowser in Super Mario Sunshine, but he's Bowser Jr. in everything else? Yay illogic! - A Link to the Past 16:54, 26 Sep 2005 (EDT)
 * And I don't drop it when someone decides to say that I'm wrong, lying or being stubborn. If you would read, Bowser Jr. is used in three different SMS FAQs. It's used in all Mario Kart: DD!! FAQs and all Mario Power Tennis FAQs. Why don't you reference the scene where he was ever called Baby Bowser? - A Link to the Past 16:59, 26 Sep 2005 (EDT)

First you say to take the game over the FAQ, then turn that around a few more times. You wanna write another three paragraphs about it, go right ahead. I'm already over it. - Jelly Soup 2:04, 26 Sep 2005 (PST)
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 * Miyamoto is wrong too then? - A Link to the Past 17:49, 26 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Notice how I said - many times - that he is called Baby Bowser in Sunshine?

Notice how that is NOT Sunshine?

Drop. It. Jelly Soup 6:55, 26 Sep 2005 (PST)
 * So, yeah, I can take time to get proof, but when it comes to you, it doesn't matter to actually prove your statement. Does your game come with a secret message calling him Baby Bowser? Because there are three people who didn't seem to see it, at the very least.
 * Yes, you said Super Mario Sunshine, but *drumroll* Miyamoto made BOTH OF THEM. I would think that if his name in MKDD is Bowser Jr., that his name is Bowser Jr., period. No one has ever claimed that it was in the game but you. So, if there was a name given to Bowser Jr. in SMS, wouldn't everyone logically call him Baby Bowser, instead of Shadow Mario or Bowser Jr.? Anyway, you know, I usually don't drop an argument. You say it's misinformation, and when I prove you wrong, your statement can be summed up as "lemme 'lone!". - A Link to the Past 08:49, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

WHO the hell are you?
Jelly I mean. Firstly, I am Jelly Soup (the one, the only). Yes, I updated my Mario Ending FAQ with Jelly Soup as my username here, but I haden't made my account here yet. I mean, I didn't think anyone would try to steal it......

At anyrate, Link is correct, Bowser jr. would be best to use (although, I seem to remember Baby Bowser being used a few times in recent games, might have just been a short hand term, not sure). Ghost Jam 1:53 27 Sep. 2005 (PST)
 * Whoo, support. So, what, he's an imposter? Huh, interesting. Anyway, Hell should be capitalized. And right, Raphael Raven is called such in Paper Mario and Tetris Attack! T_T - A Link to the Past 21:29, 27 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Yeah, I put my (this) username into my Ending FAQ over on GFAQs so people know it's me. I didn't know about this site until a day ago. I updated my FAQ with the name I was going to use before I made the account (I changed it now). Guess I have a popular name. XD

I didn't tackle the part about the Raven as I honestly didn't know. I don't really think the inclusion or exclusion of 'the' will kill the artical (maybe we can make a note that some games use 'the', while most don't). - Ghost Jam 6:45, 27 Sep 2005 (PST)