Talk:Pūko

Should Pūko be a Monty Mole, Rocky Wrench or both?
Pūko is shown to look like both a Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench so should they be both or one or the other?

Proposer: Deadline: November 4, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Option 1: Pūko is both a Monty Mole and a Rocky Wrench

 * 1) Since she is shown to look like a Monty Mole and a Rocky Wrench it is possible that she is both.
 * 2) I'm gonna go with the probable real-world explanation on this one: Yukio Sawada probably fully intended to use the name Pūko for a Rocky Wrench, but then sometime between chapters changed his mind and thought having her as a Monty Mole would be more thematically appropriate for the next appearance.

Option 2: Pūko is only a Monty Mole and not a Rocky Wrench

 * 1) Apparently this was confirmed by Mario jc.
 * 2) Per Swallow, the confirmation is on your talk page Monty.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Per my comment here; she mentions the festival-goers being Monty Moles and lends Mario a suit "passed down for generations in the Monty Mole family."
 * 5) Per Mario jc.
 * 6) Per all, she hardly even looks like a Rocky Wrench.
 * 7) Obviously a Monty mole. Rocky Wrenches belong on airships. This character belongs on a  concert hall. Per all.

Option 3: Pūko is only a Rocky Wrench and not a Monty Mole

 * 1) Is Pūko, not Choropūko. It's not like the goggles are an anatomical part of them.
 * 2) Per Doc von Schmeltwick.

Comments
Hey Doc von Schmeltwick how you worded your point sounded weird and confusing. Mind explaining what you meant? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 20:00, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

@Doc von Schmeltwick The "Pū" in her name can be short for "Choropū", similar to the other AKG48 members, e.g. "Kuri" (from "Kuribō") in "Kurimina", a Goomba, and "Fugu" (from "Fugumannen") in "Fugumayuyu", a Porcupuffer. 20:56, October 21, 2021 (EDT)
 * Goggles can still be taken off, though. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:22, October 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Goggles could've also been...put on, like as part of a stage persona. Or the artist simply intended for Pūko to be a Rocky Wrench, befitting her name over the taken Choropūko, but soon decided depicting her as a Monty Mole in that chapter would fit the theme better. Either explanation is possible, though personally I think the latter is most likely. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:07, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

Also the fact that the name Choropūko was already used for another female Monty Mole in a earlier volume. She is probably named Pūko because they didn’t want to copy off another name and to confuse the continuity. Also I have a small theory that she had those Rocky Wrench goggles in the earlier chapter for the photo to use as a cosplay or something. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:27, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

@Mario jc What's the word used for "family" in that quote? If it's 「ー族 」 (ichizoku) like Turtle Tribe, I'd probably use "clan" as a closer translation. If that's the case, maybe Super Mario-kun considers Rocky Wrench to be a variant of Monty Mole by this point, like the related Morty Mole that shows up? (Note that I think the current classification is fine if true because of it historically being the other way around.) LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:10, October 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Even beyond that, considering Shellcreeper's been listed as part of the Turtle Tribe while being the absolute base behind that, perhaps Poo could be in a similar situation. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:22, October 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * I took Shellcreeper being listed as a Turtle Tribe member moreso for the purposes of simplifying their categorization, but fair enough. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:07, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

I just wanted to say that the Mole Festival seems to be in a area similar to 5-4 from 3D Land. A Rocky Wrench does appear in 5-4 from 3D Land so Rocky Wrenches have appeared in a couple non-airship areas like some 3D Land levels. Im fine with her being just a Monty Mole, but it is just something I wanted to add. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 18:02, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

@OhoJeeOnFire - Rocky Wrenches have appeared outside of airships, and as the LoreMaster mentioned, there were a few instances of such in Super Mario 3D Land, which Super Mario-kun was adapting. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:07, November 3, 2021 (EDT)


 * What I meant was that they belong there, like Bloopers to underwater levels and lava bubbles to castle levels.
 * That is their natural habitat, but they don't have to be strictly confined to those environments. 20:08, November 4, 2021 (EDT)
 * That makes sense. For example, the Super Mario Maker series. They could be in other environments if the player wants, but they are most commonly used on airships.