MarioWiki:Proposals

Writing guidelines
None at the moment.

New template: Alphabetize
Historically, lists and galleries have attempted to be alphabetical. For the most part, they have remained somewhat intact in remaining alphabetical. In a lot of other cases, this is not exactly true, which is where this template comes into play. This template, to be used in sections of pages, indicates that a list should be made alphabetical. It is significantly different from because rewriting a page generally adds to or removes content, and requires a type of reactional thinking to form NEW content. To make a section alphabetical, it requires moving around pre-existing content. This should lead to a higher level of consistency among articles, and greater ease for readers to navigate pages.

The template would look like this:  It has been requested that this be re-organized to be in alphabetical order.

Proposer: Deadline: August 9, 2019 at 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal. Would be weird if the guy that made it didn't support it...
 * 2) Seems a perfectly reasonable way to call attention to a specific issue to me.
 * 3) Not THAT unreasonable.
 * 4) Honestly the "we can use the rewrite template" argument seems quite invalid. Template:Tense exists, even though we technically could just use, . Template:Trivia could just be  . If we were to not have this template, then those templates would also have to go. Really, with the mentality that "just because another template just be used for the same thing", we should delete most improvement templates and make an issue template were we can do  ,  ,  , etc. However, there is one major benefit in having specific template for specific issues, and sub-templates of those (which is what Template:Tense is and what this template can be) is that when those templates are used specific categories are added to the page. This means that editors can look for specific issues to fix instead of going through all pages marked with a more general template, like the rewrite template. If you want to fix long trivia sections, you can go to Category:Articles with long trivia sections. (Unfortunately Template:Tense doesn't have its own category which it should have if you only want to fix tense, but https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Tense still can be used). Of course, this template won't always be used, but there still are good uses of it, so I support.
 * 5) Per Doomhiker. Also, rewrite typically implies that an article needs its written content fixed, whereas Alphabetize typically pertains to galleries. Many users tend to focus on either written content or images, but sometimes not both. File maintainers like myself would never find such gallery sort issues in the rewrite category. In fact, I doubt very many people even scroll through that category when looking for articles to rewrite because of how bloated it is due to everyone using the template as a catch-all for any sort of issue with articles. I strongly disagree with the oppose votes here because I feel that sorting of galleries, which can be an automated process is vastly different from fixing writing within articles and deserves its own maintenance category and template, and that trying to include this in rewrite contributes to the bloat of the rewrite category, making it more useless.

Oppose

 * 1) - I'm going to say the same thing here as I did in our DMs about this.  does the same thing. We don't need another template for this. Rewriting doesn't always mean adding or removing content, it could mean reorganizing content as well.
 * 2) - I know I've griped about something similar to this, but it's ultimately a semantic issue and, at most, a small quibble. Slightly altering the current templates to potentially reflect such cases would work somewhat better than a whole new template that all but says the same thing. Plus Alex makes a good point regarding what a rewrite entails.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) - Trig, sorry but I'm going to have to agree with Grammaticus and Alex. Alphabetizing isn't needed in all cases. For instance, with characters in spin-off titles, Mario should always come first and foremost, as he is the series' titular character.
 * 5) I don't see why we need to make such specific templates. As Alex95 said,  is a perfectly suitable alpabetization notice.
 * 6) Actually on second thought, using just the rewrite template works better. Per all.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Unnecessary and redundant. Per all.
 * 9) If we can just use the rewrite template, that makes this redundant and redundant. Per all.
 * 10) With the rewrite template being available, this would just be redundant. Per all.
 * 11) Per all.

Comments
i said that the borders of the template is too thick and it's inconsistent with the rest of the templates in its fashion. 23:38, August 1, 2019 (EDT)


 * @Owen, I don't think you're supposed to just outright remove your initial vote - to my knowledge it's preferred that you strike through your initial vote and explain why your changed it in your new vote. -- 01:42, August 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * You can remove your vote if no one is referring to it. 12:24, August 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Understood, thank you for clarifying. -- 15:03, August 2, 2019 (EDT)

@Doomhiker, Tense can likely go. It's a subsidiary of the Rewrite template, even sharing its category. No mainspace pages are currently using it, possibly using the standard Rewrite template instead. It seems pretty redundant. As for Trivia, it's meant for one specific type of section and has its own category to go with it. 15:16, August 2, 2019 (EDT)

One suggestion I have would be to add a parameter for the user to specify a request for another sort order other than alphabetical (e.g., "It has been requested that this section be re-organized to be in release-date order." for character screenshot galleries) as other sort orders are common and I have seen many character screenshot galleries that aren't sorted properly. This may address Results May Vary's point. -- 22:53, August 2, 2019 (EDT)

Removals
None at the moment.

Changes
None at the moment.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.