Talk:Swoop

MKWii
click! In the Wario's Gold Mine section you can see the Swoopers in the tunnel.Darth waluigi 19:34, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

SMG and SMG2
According to Wikipedia Japan, the enemy you have listed here for SMG and SMG2 isn't a Swooper but a different enemy called バットン Batton. Those icy ones from SMG are listed as アイスバットン Ice Batton. In the SMG2 Prima guide, they're listed as just Bat. Vent 14:48, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

Pat the Bat
They don't really resemble Swoopers, and they also fly haphazardly rather than do the expected "swoop", so they're probably supposed to be new enemies like the Evil Coin. (In addition, the above section mentions that the bats in the Galaxy games aren't called Swoopers - maybe someone should take another look at that.) LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:46, 10 October 2014 (EDT)

Split Swooper and Pat the Bat into separate articles
NO QUORUM 3-0

It seems the idea that Pat the Bat may have been a misnamed Swoop(er) comes from here, but as mentioned above, Pat the Bat doesn't really resemble Swooper except they're both bats.

Proposer: Deadline: December 21, 2014, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Pat the Bat is the only enemy that doesn't share the name as the other Mario enemies in the link, so I say we split. The only thing they have in common is that they're bats.
 * 3) Per all. The name difference is fairly drastic and they don't look that much like each other.

Split Swooper and Pat the Bat into separate articles redux
PASSED 6-0

See above for reasons; it was short one vote, but I'm giving it another chance to reach an actual conclusion.

Proposer: Deadline: January 5, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal. I find it weird nobody cares about this (although the large amount of Talk Page Proposals recently might be the reason).
 * 3) - Seems like it was a case of jamming in the info wherever it'd fit to avoid making a "stub". Anyway, a separate short article would be better better than the mismatched merge we have here now: per proposal.
 * 4) Once again per all.
 * 5) I'm not repeating myself.
 * 6) per all.

Swoops
Where'd that name come from, and was it used in their latest appearance? The article isn't too clear on that (or I'm reading it wrong). 17:49, 4 February 2015 (EST)

Mario Party: Island Tour, but that was all.  At last, the rock fell. 15:05, 22 February 2015 (EST) And more, according to this. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:14, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

Move to Swoop
PASSED 4-0

"Swooper" has only been used in Super Mario World and the first three Paper Mario games to my knowledge, while "Swoop" is unambiguously the modern name, being used in more recent games (and I'm pretty sure it's policy to use the most recent names).

Proposer: Deadline: May 22, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per proposal
 * 3) Not really necessary, but since you're doing it, I might as well support it.
 * 4) I will support this one! Let's move it!

Comments
If it's the more recent name, make the move. It's policy to do so. Making a proposal's entirely unneeded and unnecessarily prolongs it.
 * The main reasons I'm doing it this way are so there's a clear explanation of the move on the talkpage to prevent someone from just moving it back immediately, and to confirm with 100% certainty that they weren't repeatedly called Swoopers in some recent thing I was unaware of. Binarystep (talk) 21:39, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
 * All you really had to do was make the move and add a citation for the new name. The log and the article will both have a clear explanation, and considering the numerous examples you brought up to Swooper being an old name, I don't think there would be much room for debate.