Talk:Yoshi

Was it actually THE Yoshi in super Mario Sunshine? I thought they were different Yoshi's.


 * The Yoshi is referred to as "Yoshi" in the instruction manual and player's guide. In the game, Yoshi is green until he eats a fruit, then changes back to green when he either runs out of juice or hits the water. Also, all official artwork shows Mario riding the green Yoshi. -- Son of Suns

It could have just been a Green Yoshi species. Paper Jorge


 * As stated above, the sources refer to "Yoshi" not "Yoshis". -- Son of Suns

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THE Yoshi
It is not confrimed if the Yoshi in Super Mario World 1 and 2 is really THE Yoshi. It could just be the green specie. And in Partners in Time it's not confirmed if that's the Yoshi...or is it? Paper Jorge


 * The Yoshi from Super Mario World is the same Yoshi that is a selectable character in the kart, sports, and party series. In the Mario Party 2 instruction manual, it states that Yoshi is the same Yoshi that saved Mario and Luigi when they were babies. This means that the Yoshi from SMW 2 is the same Yoshi we know and love. Partners in Time is more sketchy. Official artwork depicts the Yoshi with Yoob, and Yoshi certainly acts as he does in other series. That is why I note that the PoT Yoshi is "apparently" the Yoshi, but could be a different one as in Yoshi's Story. -- Son of Suns

Super Mario Sunshine
I have to question the Bravery on Isle Delfino section for accuracy. In the official (hmm...) art, Yoshi is green. Yet, in reality, Yoshi only turns green when he is just about out of juice. Otherwise, depending on the fruit he swallows last, he is orange, pink or purple. I think THE Yoshi does not appear in SMSS, but instead an Isle Delfino species. Comments? 21:05, 13 December 2006 (EST)
 * Now looking at the top of the page, I still am not convinced. We don't know what color the Yoshi is inside the egg at first, and honestly, SoS, sometimes you take the guides and manuals a bit too seriously. Also, keep in mind that these Yoshis can't go in deep water, signifying a different species.

The main Yoshi can swim in water (MP and YI series) while the ones on Isle Delfino dissapate when contacting water. A major factor to consider when classifiying it as a Yoshi. Yet there is info contradicting it. Shadow Mario does appear with ONE Yoshi Egg and why is it that when that one yoshi egg is rescued, all Yoshi eggs are accesable. Then again after the Turbo Nozzle is found, all Turbo Nozzles appear. Confusing indeed. Im leaning towards species though.

Mabey they disapate because they can't swim and hold a plump plumber on there back, or they arn't real Yoshi's just Delfino clones

And I don't think any Yoshi for that matter can spray Yoshi Juice. I'm more and more conviced that this a sub-species of Isle Delfino. And hold on. Egg color doesnt neccesarily mean that its a Green Yoshi. (Ex:Yoshi Kid)

I'm using the most canonical sources available, mainly the Player's Guide and the Instruction Manual. They refer to Yoshi as Yoshi, and use images of a green Yoshi. Yoshi disappearing in water and reappearing in an egg is similar to Super Mario World. In SMW, Yoshi could fall off a cliff or lava, but if you return to where you can find an egg, Yoshi will reappear without a scratch on him. The same applies to Isle Delfino. Note that Yoshi does turn green after he hits the water, meaning the juice changed his color. Maybe the water affects Yoshi because of the juice in his body. Note also that no two Yoshis appear together, meaning we can't say that it isn't one Yoshi reforming in an egg just like in SMW. Plus, Yoshi has changed his color before when coming into contact with an item (SMW again). The fruit is changing his color and possibly his tolerance to water. If Nintendo wanted us to know that there were multiple Yoshis, they could have made a piece of art depiciting a rainbow of Yoshis as they have done in every Yoshi game. Also, in SMW 2: YI, Yoshi could not swim in water, he could float at the surface, showing that Yoshi has different reactions to water in different games. Other traits of Yoshi have also changed. For example, in SMW, Yoshi could destroy a Koopa Troopa outright with one stomp, while in SMW 2: YI, Yoshi could only knock the Koopa Troopa out of its shell. Does that mean they are a different sub-species of Yoshi, the strong stompers and the weak stompers? Of course not. The game mechanics of each game is different. Nintendo wanted to provide a challenge by making Yoshi dissolve in water. Several challenges force Mario to ride Yoshi across platforms surrounded by water to reach an island with yellow goop. There would be no challenge if Yoshi could just swim to the island. Yoshi's tolerance to water changes based on the play mechanics of the game. The juice meter also limits the amount of time Mario can ride the powerful Yoshi. Regardless, official sources say Yoshi, not Yoshis or a Yoshi, so I'm sticking to Yoshi. Guides and manuals are important to understanding Mario games as they provide background information usually not presented in the game itself (unless, of course, the game is an RPG). -- Son of Suns

I have a source that makes almost eveything you just said irrelevant. The Great Sunflower says that the Snooze-A-Koopas have scared all the Yoshi away. Replay Episode 4 in Pinna Park and you'll see.

Get an exact quote so we can analyze it. In-game material is more canonical than manuals or guides. If the quote confirms more than one Yoshi, we can remove the SMS section of the article. This may make sense, as after the Snooze-A-Koopas are defeated, the Yoshis reappear on Isle Delfino. Please get an exact quote though, as I do not have the game in my possession currently. -- Son of Suns

The wilted Great Sunflower says: Because of these fake eggs, the Yoshis of this island have fled...

Also note that she spells plural Yoshi as Yoshis not Yoshies.

Brrrr! Video game analyzation is a scary business. 3D

I can't remember the exact quote, but I have the game and after playing the game for a while, you will see the same Toad you normally see by the lighthouse. He will tell you that lot's of Yoshis used to live in Isle Delfino, but he wonders why they aren't there anymore.--PeteyPiranhaLover 18:32, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Thanks for all the help. I'm glad we were able to check facts with canonical sources to make a more accurate article. When I play a Mario game, I try to keep a notebook nearby, just in case some random quote or piece of information will come in handy someday. The Sunflower quote was very helpful. I've removed all info about SMS in this article. We should also remember that the canonical spelling of multiple Yoshis is, in fact, Yoshis, not Yoshies. -- Son of Suns

Is there going to be an article about the Isle Delfino sub-species?


 * No. A lot of creatures were changed in Super Mario Sunshine, like the Bob-ombs, but they are still the same creatures. A section about the Yoshis on Isle Delfino could be added to the Yoshi (species) page. -- Son of Suns

Quote
What game is the quote from? -- Son of Suns

Probably Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, in that the characters that don't speak english have subtitles, the quote is probably one of the things Yoshi says. -- Sir Grodus