Talk:Nintendo DS

Are you sure Ds and DS Lite should be on the same page? If we expand, we might get 2 out of them...


 * Probably not they don't have too much difference.

I think there was likea crimson?

How many bits does the DS have? Lewa159 13:34, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

Pictures
We need more guys. One beta pic and one mario edition dsi isn't enough in the gallery. Is this page still being worked on? If so I can provide photos of at least the original ds, Dslite,and Dsi ( regular version)

Okay. I'm doing.

DSi
I think the DSi should have it's own article. It's a completely new console not a layout like the DSLite. It's like the Gameboy, Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advanced, they have separated articles, don't they?
 * The DSi uses the same cards as the regular DS does. It is established not to replace the DS (lite), but to be a version into a different direction. Imagine it like this: The DS lite is for gaming veterans depending on the GBA slot. The DSi is focussing on more casual stuff (camera, web browser). Until we know more than that, we shouldn't create an article. If the DSi turns out to be fundamentally different, we can still change that. - 16:48, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes. I think another way to look at is is the difference of the GameBoy Advance and the GameBoy Advance SP. Looks different, different functions, but fundamentally, just an enhaced version. I think we'll have to wait a bit for more information about the DS shop channel and whatnot, though.
 * Well, I'm sure the DSi will have games only for it, so I think it should have an article only for it. On the DSi trailer it showed one game (a soccer game by what I remember) that your face can be on the players. Also, the DSi will have Miis, and there is a game (baseball by what I remember) using that feature. Also, there'll be a "DS Ware", and that is only avaible for the DSi.
 * I'd like to emphasize the "will have games only for it" part of your comment. Until we get confirmation that Mario will be involved, we needn't make an article for it.  So, when the "will have" becomes a "does," we can update it then.  Also, Miis have appeared in Mario media, but they've also appeared in a variety of other titles in the same manner, so they aren't strictly speaking, Mario characters that we will chronicle no matter which series they are in (ie Mario in SSX or Birdo in Captain Rainbow).  20:30, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

I have proof that the DSi can play regular DS games. Clicky here Ambidextria

I found a quote for the DSi section of the page. "What will you and i do?

Beta DS
I found an image of the beta DS should this be added to the article. ->

Discontinued?
Technically, the DS is discontinued. I'm pretty sure it was discontinued after the release of the DS Lite. 01:17, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

The DS Lite is pretty much the same thing. Lemmy Koopa Fan

I still have a Nintendo DSi. Plankton5165 14:33, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

3DS Microsite
Look here, and watch some project games, including a new Mario Kart and Paper Mario.

Talk Page Proposal: DSi and 3DS. Split or Merge
As you can see, the 3DS has its own page, while the DSi hasn't. As the name says, both are part of the 3DS series, and none of them is a "minor" update to the series (the DS Lite is), so, for consistency, both should have its own pages, or both should be in this page. Proposer: Deadline: October 20th. 11:45pm (UCT)

Have each one into its own page

 * 1) - Per me
 * 2) Per Tucky.
 * 3) I am Zero! I was about to say no, but that does make sense. Zero signing out.
 * 4) Per Zero!
 * Ok, it IS a major update. I agree with the proposal, then.
 * 1) Per all.
 * 2) Per.
 * 3) Per all
 * 4) Per all.
 * 5) Come on, this is Tucayo who's proposing here. He can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. Per all.
 * 6) The DSi should be considered an entirely new console because of all the new features. Games, cameras, pictures, e.t.c. Per all.

Comments
The problem is, isn't the 3DS an entirely new console from the DS while the DSi is merely an updated version of it? Yes, the DSi offers little games and other brand new features, but the 3DS have its own line of major games (ports, Paper Mario, etc).

Sorry about all my questions. I haven't done any research on the DSi, nor I own one.
 * GOod question. The DSi uses the same cartridges, but it is a MAJOR update to the series, since it has its own games (DSi Ware), a store, WiFi, camera, etc... Is not merely a design update (DS Lite or DSi XL). -- 20:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Good point, Tucayo, I was going to say that in the proposal itself, but that wouldn't be the best idea... I'm gonna do a lame comparison to a clothing line. Each piece of clothing is unique, so are the "DS"s. I have a DSi, and it is a big step. There is wifi that supports WPA passwords (thank goodness!), and 2 cameras, an actual menu, and other awesome gadgets. The DSiXL is an update of the DSi (obviously) and so we could include the XL in it.

PS: They also have different styli and builds. The DSi is more square in comparison to the Lite. And the 3DS is a whole different story...


 * Yes, DSi XL will go in the 3DS page :) -- 19:59, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Bit
I don't think it has more than 32 bit, add citation please.
 * I'm very sure it is 64 bit (if it were 32 bit, it probably wouldn't have 3D games), but I don't have a source confirming it. Can anyone find one? I'm sure it's not 128 bit either because the GC is supposed to be 128 bit and it has way better graphics than a DS.
 * Per FF65. I'll look it up on Wikipedia Master Koopakid
 * According to Wikipedia, it uses ARM processor. All ARMs uses 32-bit.

Slogan
What's with the DS slogan? "Touching is Good?" it sounds so Wrong. It should be changed so no one gets any thoughts
 * It's official slogan.

3DS
Removed the info for the 3DS, because the console isn't in the DS series like the info implied. --Internetakias 15:36, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Um...it most certainly is!

02:18, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Iwata said in an interview with a Japanese newspaper that the next iteration of DS will have “highly detailed graphics”.

Here’s the full announcement in English:

Nintendo Co., Ltd.(Minami-ward of Kyoto-city, President Satoru Iwata) will launch “Nintendo 3DS”(temp) during the fiscal year ending March 2011, on which games can be enjoyed with 3D effects without the need for any special glasses.

“Nintendo 3DS”(temp) is going to be the new portable game machine to succeed “Nintendo DS series”, whose cumulative consolidated sales from Nintendo amounted to 125million units as of the end of December 2009, and will include backward compatibility so that the software for Nintendo DS series, including the ones for Nintendo DSi, can also be enjoyed.

We are planning to announce additional details at E3 show, which is scheduled to be held from June 15, 2010 at Los Angeles in the U.S. Source:http://www.vg247.com/2010/03/23/nintendo-to-release-3ds-by-march-2011/ See? The Nintendo 3DS isn't another addition in the DS series --Internetakias 15:36, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Game icons
Should we add game icons from the starting screen to the articles?

I'm not sure. I agree with on the game's pages itself, but on the DS page? I'm debating....--Toad85 07:00, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

I made a proposal on it, see here. 06:40, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Talk Page Proposal: Removing Nintendo 3DS
REMOVE 12-8

I personally think that the 3ds has no place on this page. It is not a "remake" of the DS, like the Gamecube is not a remake of the N64. I say to delete this info, or edit it to debunk any connection other than name and backwards compatibility. Either that, or we should but the successor to every console on it's page. That means Gamecube on N64 page, N64 on SNES page, Game Boy on Game and Watch page. Obviously that is a bad idea. So how about we take off the Nintendo 3DS information. It's not like it's part of the DS series.

Proposer: Deadline: August 14, 2011, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per my own proposal
 * 2) per proposal
 * 3) According to the stock market news, Nintendo 3DS is supposedly a completely new console and gets its own lifespan and everything, so it's pretty much a successor other than a remake.
 * 4) Per All.
 * 5) It's a successor because the new games can't be played on a DS.
 * 6) Per ThirdMarioBro and Smarty54242.
 * 7) - Different generation, different controls, different features, different handhelds. This is already acknowledged by the fact that the 3DS has a separate page, so having a blurb about it here makes little sense and is inconsistent with all the other families of consoles. If we're going by name alone, by that logic, the SNES should be discussed on the NES page, the Wii U on Wii, and both the GBC and GBA on the Game Boy page, which adds up to a lot of redundant repetition. (And in response to come of the comments, merging any of these fundamental consoles would be a serious mistake and should not even be an option.) If someone wants to read about the next generation of console, there are multiple links to its very own page on its predecessor's article, even without a sub-section and.
 * 8) - Sure, it's an evolution, but it's one giant step of an evolution. If we oppose this, we may as well move this article into the Game Boy article.
 * 9) - I thought of some things to say here, but Walkazo covers all of my points, particularly the Wii U -> Wii thing; so per Walkazo.
 * 10) - per #
 * 11) -per Nabber and Walkazo
 * 12) Per all. There's a MAJOR difference between teh 2.

Oppose

 * 1) Nintendo 3DS is a spin-off from the DS family, like Gamebody Advance is a spinn-off from Gameboy.
 * 2) Per SW.
 * 3) Per above.
 * 4) Per SWFlash.
 * 5) Per all.
 * 6) - Console spin-offs get to be mentioned on their predecessor articles.
 * 7) First of all, the 3DS is a spin-off to its regular one and second, it is a per all!!
 * 8) Why only 3DS, why not DS Lite or Dsi [XL]?

Comments
The 3DS is basically a DS spin-off, just like how the Game Boy Color is a Game Boy spin-off. 08:15, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
 * Is the SNES an NES spin-off? Or is the Wii U a Wii spin-off?  Just because it has "DS" in the title doesn't necessarially mean it's part of that series.--Toad85 09:19, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

Opposers: Why is there no information on the Gameboy Advance or the Gameboy Color in the Gameboy article and no information of the Gameboy Advance in the Gameboy Color article? Lack of information or something else? 14:59, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
 * The GBA is its own separate line, featuring a completely different appearance from its predecessors, while the 3DS retains the basic design of its predecessors with slight modifications. Now that you mention it, I think that the GBC would do well merged to the Game Boy. Alternatively, we could create an article on the Game Boy line and put everything up to the Micro (starting with the Game Boy) in it.

But the Gameboy Color can support Gameboy games while it's not the other way around. 16:49, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
 * All successive handhelds to date have been backwards-compatible with their predecessors' software (when the software differs), but the predecessors don't need to be able to play their successors' software to be in the same article, as the 3DS's current placement demonstrates.
 * The 3DS and DS are, in fact, not alike whatsoever bar the name, appearance from the outside, and the fact that they are a game console. If you look at the inside of the console and the pre-packaged features, you can barely picture it coming from the original DS line.  Besides, the Wii-U looks alot like the Wii, are they the same console in any way other than that?--Toad85 07:12, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
 * I'm aware of the pre-packaged features. DSi has an internet browser and a shop containing software but is still mentioned in the DS article. The 3DS has improvements (as is to be expected with successors). The fact that it still uses the dual screens, has DS in its name, and overall retains identical button placement to its predecessors indicates that the 3DS is not entirely separate from the DS line. As for the Wii U, it uses an entirely different controller, so it's a bit more than just modifying things slightly as is done with the 3DS.

I could see why the Game Boy Color can be merged into Game Boy because the only difference is that it is in colour however, 3DS isn't a DS just 3D, there are loads of extra features that make it diferent which include: ... you get the point
 * Slide Pad
 * Wider Top Screen
 * AR Cards
 * Virtual Console
 * Home Buton

I think it's pretty set that it's getting removed.

Discontinued?
I don't think the Nintendo DS Lite has been discontinued. Is there any proof about this? 05:30, 31 December 2011 (EST)

dsi pics in the ds article.
Since the dsi has it's own article now, shouldn't we put those pics of the dsi in it's own page?

What does DS stand for?
Acoording to Nintendo.com, DS can also stand for Dual Screens. The FAQ of the website says: To our developers, it stands for "Developers' System," since we believe it gives game creators brand new tools which will lead to more innovative games for the world's players.

It can also stand for "Dual Screen."

Perhaps you can mention that in the article?

--VirtualBoy Girl (talk) 23:49, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Two things
Looking at the "Models" section DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL are mentioned, but not the original Ds. Why is that? or the the models section only a list over remakes (should in that case be called "remakes")

I am also doubting the usefulness of the Game Gallery section as it does not list nearly close to all the DS games, wouldn't it be better to rather link to this
 * Regarding the first question, the DS is mentioned in the opening paragraphs of the article, and the beginning of the article also includes a picture. To discuss it under the Models header would be redundant and therefore unnecessary. Regarding the second question, no, it wouldn't be better because as editors of a Mario encyclopedia, we're concerned with the Mario and Mario-related games released on consoles. The game gallery depicts all of the Mario-related games released for the DS. 15:50, 29 April 2013 (EDT)