Talk:Goal Pole

I always thought it was a skull, and the remakes in Super Mario All-Stars clearly indicate that it is a skull. This skull likely represents that a fort or castle is under the control of the Koopa Troop. When Mario brings the flag down, he is performing a symbolic gesture signifying Bowser's rule in this location is over. -- Son of Suns

Hmmm... you're probably right. You can add that if you want. 14:36, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

Aren't flagpoles in SMG and SMG2? Revenge Of Kurbio (talk) 19:29, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

They are but don't work like these. They I think only appear in Throwback and Bowser's Galaxy Generator.

Move Flagpole to Goal Pole
It's the newer name. According to this, we should always use the newer name.

Proposer: Deadline: September 3, 2012 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per above.

Oppose

 * 1) Thinking about Queen Bee and Star, I don't know. The Flagpole's old name can be remained like this. Even newer names are born after a recent release of a new game, we often keep the old name which we are used to the most.
 * 2) this proposal  sets a precedent that we should use the most commonly used name which in this case would be flag pole.
 * 3) Per Raven Effect, at first I was undecided, but this comment tipped me to oppose.

Comments
Hmmm this one is tough, I can't decide, you've both made good arguments. At this point I am 50.01/49.99 for support. August 21 2012 8:25 (EDT)

Question: In the proposal you mentioned Raven, someone mentioned that if she is called Honey Queen in another game, we should change it. As far as I know, the name "Goal Pole" was first used in Super Mario 3D Land (does someone have a NSMBWii manual?) and was later used in Mario Tennis Open and New Super Mario Bros. 2. It seems that Goal Pole is used more often than Flagpole. Even if they didn't read the instruction manual for Super Mario Bros., "flagpole" is often used by fans even after the name change.

Flagpole: used in Super Mario Bros., Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix Goal Pole: used in Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Tennis Open, New Super Mario Bros. 2

And in New Super Mario Bros. DS it's just called a "Goal".