Talk:Luigi

'Negative' Impact
I recently added to the abilities section a mention on the Negative Zone final smash and its possible corelation to his becoming Mr. L in SPM. But I just now found it to be removed. If someone could tell me if it is because it is merely a theory, or if it was because of something else, that'd be helpful. User:BoomOfThe4thWall

Age
Is it possible that Mario and Luigi are twins, but Mario is older by X minutes? HK


 * Yes. It's possible. --Son of Suns 13:33, 29 June 2006 (EDT)

Im just thinking that that is how is they how they are twins, AND one is older. (This previously unsigned comment was made by HK-47.)

Well, the Mario games don't exactly have perfect continuity. For one thing, Shy Guys, Bob-ombs, and Birdos were both dreams in SMB2, but they're real in other games. (Most likely, Mario knew about them before his dream, and that's why he dreamed about them.)

For this one, the theories are that: a) Baby Mario & Baby Luigi are different from Mario & Luigi. Highly unlikely.

b) Mario's older by a few minutes. More likely.

c) Nintendo retconned the info seen in Yoshi's Island, or forgot all about it when they described Luigi as the younger. Likely, but not as likely as B.

So, either B or C. Waluigi Freak 99 14:45, 9 September 2006 (EDT)


 * Well, Mario did encounter those enemies as a baby in Yoshi's Island, so it is logical that he would dream about them. Also, Nintendo did retcon Yoshi's Island in the GBA release. In the beginning of the game, instead of refering to Mario and Luigi as twins (like in SNES version), Mario and Luigi are simply called brothers. -- Son of Suns

Funny how people don't realise that twins can't be born at the exact same time. Of course one is older than the other. It can be by minutes or hours. - Yoshi Master

In my opinion, I think Nintendo made a mistake when they said they were twins. Paper Jorge


 * I think so too. In the Japanese games, it clearly states Mario is older that Luigi, and most likely not twins.

And then there is every game out there that retcons what you just said. Angry Sun 15:00, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

I think... That if they were teins they would be called the mario twins... User:Remiel

If you had a twin, wouldn't he still be your brother? Mumbles 23:48, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I will believe what Luigi's trophy states in SSBB: "Mario's YOUNGER TWIN brother..."

OMG I don't really care because Luigi ROX!

In Yoshi's Island, they were carried by the stork at the same time, so they probably are twins. Mario certainly is some minutes older than Luigi. I think in one of the episodes of "The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3", Luigi says it. --Xeze 13:43, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Mario is about 27. Luigi is about 25. Luigi is the younger one. --Jayt55 16:38, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 * At the end of Chapter 7-1 in Super Paper Mario, Luvbi says to Tippi "Dost thou pine for yonder hairy twins?" But then again, I just watched one episode of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show and they celebrate Luigi's birthday without celebrating Mario's.
 * In Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, a character who did not no them referred to them as "middle-aged." 23:17, 1 December 2008 (EST)

I always thought Mario is 31 and Luigi is 28. So that would mean Mario is older than Luigi by a few years. But Mario just seems older to me for some reason. User:Lemmy Koopa Fan

Images
If anyone can help finding images, I will be happy :). Paper Jorge

Mr. L Merge
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AnimeLuigi.jpg - deleted?
Why has this picture been deleted?? --Grandy02 06:56, 22 June 2007 (EDT)


 * I myself am not sure. According to the deletion log,, who is VERY trustworthy and all that, deleted it on the claims that it was unused, despite the fact that the page links to it even now. It's no problem, though; I'll just re-upload the image. (And by the way, KPH also deleted Image:Staringcontest?.gif and Image:Luigitennis.jpeg on the same terms; both of these images are still linked through from the article. I'll ask him why he did this...)


 * Just so you know, I noticed many Luigi Pictures that are on Luigi's page that say "No pages Link to this file". However, they are on Luigi's page, yet they the image says that they are not on this page. Something might be wrong with this page, but I don't know.


 * Hmm... Currently, all surviving images linked to this page state that they are indeed linked to this page. I dunno; what you said still could've been what caused it...
 * If something like this happens again, slap the images on your talk page in a gallery, it works all the time ;)

Super Mario 64 DS
May I ask why the Super Mario 64 DS section is placed after Paper Mario? Isn't it a remake of Super Mario 64, and thus occupies the same spot in the timeline? 13:27, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Actually it's matter of opinion. I personally think the "remake" is in the same continuity as the original and they both happened at different times. the DS adventure could have happened after Paper Mario and the original happened before for all we know. -- 01:37, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

According to Chronology, remakes should be listed in a biography in the same section the original would occupy. This is an official policy. -- Son of Suns

Question
Why was most of the Pics removed?

I don't know, but somebody has to put them here before deletion. PP

Well I might not know Why, but I know who. It was This guy. Anonymouspp

Some of the Pics were reused from some of the same games, plus there was too many of them getting in the way, I didn't change much to the gallery, but please, no more in the main article! I mean, talk a look at the Part talking about Mr L, we got too many pics at that point, I think we can put of of those in the gallery. Luigi 7

Can someone explain to me what is meant when Mario tells Luigi good job but then steps on his foot in Mario Power Tennis?

Spring Cleaning!
THIS has a few broken links and stuff. Can someone go over it so it looks like a great Featured Article? I saw a broken link and I see too many red links. Minimariolover10


 * It is gonna take a lot of work to get this article to FA status. It will take many users, and probably many months for that to happen. -- Son of Suns

Well at least fix the link. Minimariolover10


 * And put the Images back on! PP


 * We're too late. PP

Quote
I think "I hope she made us lotsa of spaghetti!" from Hotel Mario would make a much better main quote, anyone agree? Glowsquid

I reckon I'm-a Luigi umber one! is better Super   Yoshi10 | Lookey This


 * I disagree because it's more of a...well, it's a quote from an unpopular game and people just like it because they use it in a lot of Youtube Poop. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif

Oh, I don't know, all I know is Luigi is so not respected enough.

Wanting lotsa spaghetti reflects well on Luigi's personality better. --Koopapoopa 00:43, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

Relationships
I've removed Donkey Kong and added E. Gadd instead, I know there's more to it, but can someone add to it?

Add some stuff about Luigi's "element!"
On Wikipeda, they mention Luigi's thunder-hand from M&L:SS and how his symbol in Strikers was a thunder-bolt. Add this in! (Without taking the exact text of course) Klaus Kratchet

Vote for the Main Quote
As the title says, this is a vote to decide the main quote. I want to change it, but I suppose I should bring this here before making any change. Blitzwing

Option 1

Option 2

"I hope she made us lot's of spaghetti!"

- Luigi

Option 3

"That's Mama Luigi to you Mario!"

- Luigi

Option 1
13:56, 15 December 2007 (EST) Quote from a better known game

SiFi, Youtube poops mean nothing on this wiki. Though I always thought "I'm my bro's bro." was a good one.

Lavender, "I'm my bro's bro" is from Super Paper Mario. Not youtube. And, "that's mama luigi to you mario" was actually in the show, there may be a lot of youtube poops for that episode, but Luigi really says that.

Option 2
Oppose. More people know this quote from the intro to Garfield and Friends than from Hotel Mario. Besides, it's already the quote on Spaghetti by now. --Tepples 17:44, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Support. So? It still reflects Luigi's personality.--Koopapoopa 00:55, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

Option 3
I think this option should be because: 1.)mario could just change Luigi to mario and 2.)Mario could have easily said te same thing. in fact, both of them could have said it-Chandud

Super Mario Galaxy
Where are images of him playable in that game?(Super F22 Pilot 04:09, 8 January 2008 (EST))

There aren't very many images of the playable Luigi around. (DarkZero)

Well please upload the image if you at least find any. Also I did was able to play as Luigi by collecting all 120 Stars and switched from Mario to Luigi but then you have to start all the way to the beginning.(Super F22 Pilot 03:37, 10 January 2008 (EST))

"Paper" Luigi...
Luigi's image in the TTYD section looks shopped. His mustache doesn't part from his nose and his eyes are too close together. I remember a similar issue with Tayce T.

Dodo's right, it could possibly just be fan artwork (The uploader...)
 * Yeah, it's quite obviously a fake. - 11:10, 21 January 2008 (EST)

It is if you look closely the bold line looks thin. And his overalls are light blue! (Aren't they suppose to be jean coloured) Princess Grapes Butterfly 20:59, 15 February 2008 (EST) (And his ear is all mess up.)

Luigi's Final Smash
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LckvnqXmujc Its strange, but it still deserves a mention and article.

Mention: Yes. Article: No. HyperToad

Where does he get that smash from anyway?

apparently it's because of his dislike from being in his bro's shadow.

Early artwork
Is there any artwork of Luigi from an early game, like Super Mario Bros. 2, or Super Mario World, or something? I want to see what he originally looked like in one of those platformers. Is there any on the wiki? If it's not in this article, probably not. (I know there is artwork of him from SMB2, because there is of the other characters... where do images like that come from?) 19:11, 27 February 2008 (EST)
 * You can find a lot by looking at the artwork for the remake (Super Mario Advance). There's one of him running, pulling up a turnip, and maybe one more.  Now, whether these were the original artwork, I don't know.  23:13, 27 February 2008 (EST)
 * The manuals also have artwork of Luigi. See here for SMB2 and here for SMW. 06:22, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Is there any website that shows the artwork? It should be uploaded. 18:36, 29 February 2008 (EST)


 * Your best bet is Gamehiker. I forget the URL, so please search for "Gamehiker". The site has a gallery sorted by video games.  20:08, 29 February 2008 (EST)


 * Well, can I just download the picture and click "upload file"? Is it that easy? If I just do that, will I get arrested for not scaling down the image or something? I'm a little confused about that. 20:32, 29 February 2008 (EST)


 * Never mind, they didn't have the one I wanted. (I wanted the one that was part of this picture. Maybe it's from Super Mario Advance, but they didn't have artwork from that game.)
 * That's the biggest version of the picture I know of. You can chop out Luigi using Paint if you want to.  In regards to being arrested: just read the appropriate template for your image (ie, screenshot, artwork, etc.) and see that you hold true to the criteria.  10:27, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Mr L
Shouldn't we create a separate page for Mr L? --Mario was defeated by Bowser. Peach Cried.

Actually, I was thinking about that earlier. Maybe, but there might not be too much to say about Mr. L, in which case it's a good idea to keep him part of this article to avoid having a stub.
 * It would be nice for someone looking for stats or tips not to have to discover his true identity by finding it only on the Luigi page. Plus, we have Bowletta, Fire Mario, etc.  17:38, 6 March 2008 (EST)


 * You're right. The aticle would mention in the first few sentences that it was really Luigi, but it's pretty obvious. (Actually, when I saw Mr. L, I wasn't sure if it was Luigi after being hypnotized, or some sort of clone or evil twin of Luigi.) But that doesn't really matter, there's a ton of spoilers on the wiki and not much to do about it. But a Mr. L article sounds like a good idea to me. Anyone want to make it? Pseudo-dino first mentioned it, does he want to make it?


 * A Mr. L article would definatly work. His millions of appearances throughout the game, information about his HP and battle technices (Shroom Shake!), a quote of his, how Luigi turned into Mr. L after he tried to escape, how he joined Bleck, how he got turned back into Luigi after bieng "killed", how they later found out who he really was and his mention in Brawl. Sounds article worthy. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif Paper Jorge ( Talk&middot;Contributions)&middot; http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif

Out of Order Pictures
I think the official images on this article should be in date order. Does anyone agree/disagree? 21:18, 29 April 2008 (EDT) Yup.[Yoshitheawesome]

Melee
how do you unlock luigi in meleeP&amp;F911 18:56, 24 May 2008 (EDT)P&F911

I won't even bother saying to go to the forums. You need to play 800 vs. matches or finish the first stage in Adventure mode when a digit of the time is 7. I'm sure someone can explain the second part of that better. 13:10, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Pizza!
From Wikipedia:

"In accordance with Nintendo's marketing policy of naming and promoting individual characters,[2] the new character was given the name Luigi, which was inspired by a pizza parlor near Nintendo of America's headquarters in Redmond, Washington, called "Mario & Luigi's".[4]".

I don't see this anywhere in the history or current version. Should be added, yeah? -- Chris 20:09, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I'll go on the record saying this is a perfect example of how canon has replaced history on this Wiki. 15:24, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Luigi Mario?
OK, I found some new evidence on the Bros.' last name. It's in some issue of Nintendo Power, a Super Mario Sunshine article. Mario addresses a postcard to a certain "Luigi Mario." Whaddaya think? I can scan the article or whatever.
 * Sounds good - if you give us the issue number, page number, article title, and author we can do a proper citation and you won't have to scan - but scans are appreciated, too! 15:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I'd rather scan it, considering it's part of a poster that I already took out of the magazine. If I was lucky, it'd only take a couple minutes to find, but if not... It could take well over an hour. :O
 * Oh, I know that feeling. Good luck and may both of us one day find enough space for all of our stuff so that it is organized. :P  01:25, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

Interactions with other characters
I think that instead of King boo being under interactions with other characters, ghosts should be stated. Because since Luigi's Manison, Luigi has had a connection with not just King Boo, but with ghosts in general. An example would be that Luigi was trapped in the Ghostly Galaxy in Super Mario Galaxy. I would have went ahead and changed it, but I thought that some people might prefer that a specific individual be listed instead of a species. I just wanted to get some opinions on this.
 * But, that would be like saying "Mario has an interaction with Koopas" in general. Just because Luigi fights them, doesn't mean they have a connection.

In Mario Superstar Baseball, Luigi shares bad chemistry with not just King Boo, but also with Boo. Where as Mario doesn't share bad chemistry with Koopas or Goombas.
 * The chemistry does not determine all relationships. (Goomba with a good chemsitry with Diddy Kong??) Anyway, I just noticed... Daisy has a bad chemistry with Waluigi. Does this support the Daisy-Luigi relationship, perhaps? o_0

Possibly...

King Boo is basically the guy that hates Weege the most, kind of like goomboss/bowser and Mario. King Boo captured Weege in Mario 64 DS, and Goomboss captured mario. I think maybe an interaction with ghosts in general and a subheading with King Boo.--Koopapoopa 00:50, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

?
why is he in the police catagory?
 * Because of this comic. --Grandy02 13:57, 21 November 2008 (EST)

Personality
"When Luigi finally went on a quest of his own in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, he's presented as be more arrogant and somewhat of a liar, as he changes the stories of his adventure to make himself look better;"

Isn't that a little too harsh? Sure he changed some things in his story but I think he only did this to make his brother proud of him.

And as for his novel: It can not undoubtedly be confirmed that Luigi made that exaggerated edits. It might have been the author as well in an attempt to make his story sound more read-worthy.

Edofenrir 07:25, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

Younger twin brother?
I'm confused.
 * How are you confused? Even in the case of twins, they're not born the same moment, if that's what you're wondering. One is still older than the other. --
 * Well, how do we know if Luigi's younger?
 * Read Luigi for details. --

Tanned
Should we mention in his physicl description that in some games Luigi has paler skin than Mario? if yall never noticed look at the Mario & Luigi sprites real close like. &#91;&#91;User:Clarkmaster&#124;Clarkmaster&#91;&#91;UserTalk:Clarkmaster&#124;Southern Voice!]]]] 17:11, 31 January 2010 (EST)


 * That's kinda minor information, since I only noticed a tiny difference if I looked really closely and made sure that they use different colors. And it's only in a few games as well.

Meaning
I was doing a little research, and I found out that the meaning of "Luigi" is "famous fighter", something that Luigi is definately not. Should that go in trivia, starting with "ironically" or "coincedentially?" (<-- probably not spelt right, but who cares.) Lemmy Koopa Fan 22:45, 8 March 2010 (EST)


 * Where did you get that information from?


 * Ah, one of those "meaning of names" sites. I'm pretty sure it was true, because that's what it said on other sites too. (Wow, I have such weird hobbies...) Lemmy Koopa Fan 17:12, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Luigi in Brawl
I've seen pictures and videos of Luigi in Brawl as Mr.L,a few websites say stuff about this (eye problems and not being able to get the bandana on him.)MegaClaws 11:30, 9 March 2010 (EST)


 * The pictures were edited and the videos were the result of a hack. I know because there is no way possible to play as Mr. L in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Lemmy Koopa Fan 17:15, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Weegee
I think we should have more information about the name "weegee", and maybe even an image of what "weegee" looks like. --Koopapoopa 00:53, 18 May 2010 (EDT)


 * -_-' Please nothing about YouTube poops or other crap from other meme places...--

I just mean basic information about him, such as the fact that it's from the DOS version and that his sprite is infamous for its staring, stuff like that. --Koopapoopa 01:02, 18 May 2010 (EDT)


 * Yes, and let's put it in the trivia section. --Click to enter my domain! 21:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

information actually about Luigi
In the sections for various games, it just says things like, "mario and luigi travelled through 8 worlds, blah blah blah..." and doesn't give that much information about Luigi himself, like how he throws the shell on the title screen of Mario 3,etc. --Koopapoopa 01:02, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
 * That's one of the reasons why the article has a rewrite template. Feel free to help improve the article by adding more facts actually related to Luigi and removing unrelated information; if the article talks about things unrelated to the subject, that's only because nobody has taken the time to rewrite those sections yet. Keep in mind when adding things though that the style used for most of the article is not conform to the current quality standards; information should be written in the present tense, speculation, fanon and dramatic writing styles should be absent.--vellidragon 15:15, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

Different in SMB3?
The article currently says that Luigi controls differently in Super Mario Bros. 3 (as he does in some other games). I have never heard such a thing (aside from Super Mario Advance 4, of course) but am in no position to test, currently. Does anyone have any evidence that this is the case? --HeroicJay 06:44, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
 * I'm pretty sure that Luigi plays exactly the same as Mario in SMB3. --Grandy02 06:56, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
 * So am I, but like I said, unable to test, myself, currently. --HeroicJay 13:25, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
 * No, really, does anyone have any evidence of this? I'm really thinking that it was added by someone who owns SMA4 and got confused. --HeroicJay 02:20, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

I have SMA4. Only reason I edited that Luigi controls differently is because another editor said so and I'm sorta more Sonic-ish than Mario-ish... but I've seen some videos on Youtube and in the original SMB3, Luigi didn't seem to slip or slide any more than Mario did, and I'm pretty sure jump height is the same. I'll try to get it for the Virtual Console and see if I spot any differences. Sorry if I began (or continued...) any confusion. --SuperSonicRider 22:37, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

2 Sections
How come there are 2 sections named "Super Mario World"? I think one of them has to be renamed.
 * There are two sections because there are two things named 'Super Mario World". The sub-sections of History that they are listed under make it pretty clear which one's which: the one in the "Super Mario series" section is about the game Super Mario World and the other one, in the "DIC cartoons" section, is about the cartoon Super Mario World. It doesn't disrupt wiki navigation either (if you want to link straight to the second one, type Luigi, while Luigi goes to the first; the TOC works fine as well). It's not a problem and no renaming is necessary. - 23:12, 15 January 2011 (EST)

Merge Casanova Koopa with Luigi
Merge 6-1

{{Scroll box|content= This proposal is to merge Cassanova Koopa with Luigi. I tried this a couple weeks ago, but it was confusing. But I got the hang of it. Anyway, I think we should merge these two pages because if Kootie Pie's human form should be put in Wendy O's page than so should Cassanova Koopa with Luigi.

Proposer:{{User|Tails777}} Deadline: February 16, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) I am Zero! Yeah, why was that removed, anyways, per proposal. Zero signing out.
 * 2) - Casanova Koopa is not notable enough to get its own article when there is an alternative way to do this.
 * 3) If Casanova Koopa is a form of Luigi that was used, it should be included in his article, just like Mr. L is included in Luigi's article.
 * 4) Per Marioguy.
 * 5) - Per all. We merged Leo Luster, so we should merge this too.
 * 6) - Per all. It's a stub that someone forgot to stub.

Oppose

 * 1) Leo Luster was just whichever Kong who's name escapes me in a costume. If I'm not mistaken, Casanova Koopa is Luigi in a magical transformation.

Comments
I put it in the wrong place.
 * Where's the Cassanova Koopa article? I can't find it ._.
 * I am Zero! I also tried to look for Casanova Koopa.... Zero signing out.
 * I might have mispelled the word. I have bad spelling. Sorry. And if Casanova Koopa and Luigi are different, why isn't there a page for Kootie Pie's human form?

I am Zero! @AnimalCrossingCool Please specify that a little more or else the vote is invalid. Zero signing out.

Robo Koopa. It's a featured article, and an alter-ego. If we have that article, why can't we have this one? And for an example with Luigi, Mr. L.
 * It's probably going by the logic that merged Leo Luster with Bluster Kong. I personally would love to see all those personae merged into King Koopa's alter egos (but maybe give the chart a "summary" section to briefly describe each alter-ego and its role in the corresponding episode). Most of them don't have articles yet anyway, and I feel that lengthy summaries like on Robo Koopa are a bit unnecessary: people can just read the episode summaries. Video game alter-egos have a bit more to stand on, seeing as their summaries aren't just rehashing a single game's summary, in most cases, but I'd be fine with merging things like Dark Fawful, Bowletta, Shrowser and possibly even Mr. L, although given the fact that "Mr. L" played such an important role in SPM, I'd also be fine with that article staying. Same deal with Dr. Mario: he's not a one-hit wonder, and not giving him his own page would look like an omission on our part. - 10:40, 4 February 2011 (EST)
 * In my opinion, Robo Koopa should be merged as it is not notable enough to warrant its own article. But Bowletta, Dark Fawful (don't know who Shrowser is) and Mr. L are all main villains of a game. Robo Koopa appeared as the villain during one episode of a TV show. Bowletta, Dark Fawful, etc. are the main villains of their own games. They should remain split (IMO).
 * Slitghly off topic, but King Koopa has quite a few pages on his alter-egos. We even listed them: King Koopa's alter egos. Since this will pass, should we delete/merge these alter-egos?

I am Zero! @Bowser'sLuma What difference does that make? They're both just changing their look. Your vote in invalid. Zero signing out. }}