User talk:Bop1996/Archive 3

Hello, you have reached my talk page. I'm going to warn you straight up that I am a serious nerd about a lot of things and that I will reflect that in our conversation.

If you plan on having an idle conversation, you should probably read my userpage so you have some idea of who I am. I've been around these parts for roughly a year now, and am a patroller, so if you have some sort of question, I can try to answer it or I can refer you to someone who can. I also have a forums account here, so feel free to pm me there as well. I have accounts on MetroidWiki and ZeldaWiki by the same name, so I can attempt to help with any issues regarding those two wikis I suppose.

A few rules you agree to by posting on my talk page:
 * 1) I will reply on this page
 * 2) No spamming, flaming, or any type of offensive language
 * 3) Spelling and grammar should be as correct as possible
 * 4) Please sign all of your comments or I will add Template:Unsigned to them. If I haven't added the template, that doesn't mean you should add it for me, I probably had a reason.
 * 5) I can only keep up a coherent conversation in English
 * 6) For other NIWA wiki users; casual discussion can go on any wiki, wiki-based goes on the wiki it is based on.

Now that that's over with, feel free to create a new header and talk to me.

My current editing status is: Actively patrolling the recent changes

Help!

 * I need your help back on this talk page! I am not trying to revive that arguement or start a new one, I just have a question I need answered. Please use the link I provided.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 13:22, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I saw and answered, as you seem to have seen.
 * Yeah. Anyway, thanks. You really seem to know just about everything on this wiki!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 13:34, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I don't know everything, just most of the problems that new users seem to run into. But thank you for the compliment anyway.
 * You're welcome. I was exaggerating a bit. You seem to be famous at correcting peoples grammar and spelling, because somebody has an userbox that says he's friends with Bop1996, and wishes he would stop correcting my grammar. I didn't design it, I just saw it and though you ought to know. It doesn't mention anything about it intending to be offensive, so it may be an insult. Actually, the somebody is Mario4Ever, so it might not be offensive, but still... anyway, thanks for all the help, you've really taught me a lot.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 14:04, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I made that intentionally, and it was just part of my quirkiness I suppose, so I'm not upset at all. I do try to correct any grammar and spelling mistakes I see though, so it does seem somewhat fitting.
 * Oh, I see now. About that article from before, though: is the In-Game description section really neccesary? The article gives all that information above, the only difference is how it is worded and it is slanted. Wait, would something like this go on the articles talk page?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 14:16, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * You can ask me or another admin if you have questions, or you can just post it on the talk page. Anyway, to answer your question: those sorts of information do get sections, unless they're redundant with something on the infobox, so the section on In-Game Description should stay.
 * Alright, thanks for the help(once again...)!:)M&amp;L Beware my fury! 14:27, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * By the way, that Lord Grammaticus guy from the talk page is going around and bad mouthing me. He posted the comments I left on GalacticPetey's and Mario4Ever's talk pages on Raven Effect's, without the updated ones showing my appologies, and is writing rude things about me on his talk page. Come to think of it, he was also a bit rude to me on the first talk page with the stub arguement. Can you go to his talk page and sort things out?(And while you're there, can you slap him upside the head for me?)M&amp;L Beware my fury! 14:55, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * He posted those links before your apologies and amended behavior, so there wasn't a link of your apology to link to at the time he wrote those comments. He didn't do anything wrong, and you're upset with him for not acknowledging something that hadn't even happened yet. And I didn't see him say anything rude with regards to the article either.
 * Fine, but Raven Effect's been pestering me too. He left a comment on my talk page, but I left a response. Since I changed my rules (as I wrote in a new header, you can vote wether to change the rules back or keep them this way) I left a few swears, but Raven Effect got what he deserved. Please don't judge me for this, and try and vote whether or not I should have rules against swearing on my talk page. Look forwards to seeing your comments!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:12, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Raven Effect was blunt, but he was correct. And again, he left that comment last night after you posted those comments on Mario4Ever's and GalacticPetey's talk pages, but before you apologized, so he wasn't pestering you, really. As for your talk page rules, they're up to your personal preferences (within reason), so I'm not really concerned about those.
 * So I don't need to have a vote on it?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:24, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Not if you don't want to.
 * Okay, I will stop it (unless someone has already voted). By the way, if we're going to continue this discussion, should we make a new header, or would making a new header be for future discussions? If we should create a new header, answer this questio under this header and I will reply under a new one.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:32, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I don't care if you make a new header or not.
 * Okay, I was just asking. Hey, would articles like this one be considered a stub? Use the link to see which article I'm talking about before you reply.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:36, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Bop before you say anything i would like to point out that there is no information that can be added to the article
 * You! You saw that I said defending articles like Pure Water was a waste of your time, so now you're trying to save it, huh?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Really so if you say something i'm just supposed to back down i'm defending an article from being called something it's not
 * It doesn't appear to have any information available to be added to the article, so it would not be classified as a stub.
 * But the talk page is longer than it!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:43, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * It's not about length it's about content and the fact is that if no information can be added an article can not be called a stub
 * Face it, no information could have been added when it was being created.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:46, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * If an article has a valid amount of info or the maximum amount of info possible, it's not a stub. It's as simple as that.
 * OK, I'm wrong, but I still think that protecting it from being called a stub was a waste of his time.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:51, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * It was just an example for comparison purposes, not starting an argument over the status of Pure Water.
 * Right, I'll forget about it, but is it possible to add anymore information to it? Surely there has to be something that somebody forgot, right? I would add information, but I don't own the game so I don't really know anything about it, but if you do could you please add it?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 18:56, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I couldn't think of anything to add without being redundant, but I don't have a highly specialized knowledge of the subject matter, so someone with more familiarity with the game might think of something.
 * Alright, all that's left to do with this situation is wait for someone more knowledgeable to add more.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 19:18, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Well, that's assuming that there is anything to add, which probably isn't true.
 * Yeah, you're probably right... we should just leave it like it is.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 19:27, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Un-Stubify

 * Hello, Bop1996. I have a question for you: are you part of the Un-Stubify PipeProject? I am, but I can't find any articles that are stubs that I know anything about so I can't help much.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:12, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I'm not active in any PipeProjects except MarioWikify. You can improve articles without going through and destubbing them, though, if you improve the writing or layout of articles, so try there if you can't find any articles to destub.
 * Sure, I'll look for any articles that need improvement.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:53, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Just changed the Yoob article. It was a miracle I did, because it lacked a lot of information and some of the information it did have was false.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:13, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * I just fixed the Dark Koopa (Super Paper Mario) article, it is now no longer a stub.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:38, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 * Good job.
 * Thanks. It wasn't that hard, though.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:45, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Dude, user problem
A user called User:Super Radio keeps creating the Wario enemies page, and many users have told him to stop. If he does it again, can you report it to Lindsay151, or can you just block him yourself? You're a patroller. And oh, have a good day.

I've already reported It to Lindsay151. Please consider blocking. Thanks!

Hmmm. That's a good idea actually.


 * The situation with the actual list seems to have been rectified, and the situation with Super Radio's behavior is under discussion.

Yessir!

Is under discussion, huh?
I understand you all. And I am sorry... for the last time. I'm curious, in the non-internet community, I have a good behavior. I'm not trying to excuse me. Just please, don't make the conflict bigger, OK?

And please, leave a comment after you read this.


 * There will be no actions taken to purposefully ignite conflict or stir up trouble. However, if the administrative team agrees that your behavior merits some kind of action according to policy, then that action will be taken.


 * By the way, at the talk page for Super Venus Fire Trap I'd leave a message for you.
 * I responded there, sorry about missing that reply. And please indent your comments with colons instead of asterisks).
 * I responded there, sorry about missing that reply. And please indent your comments with colons instead of asterisks).

Warning
1)Yes, true, my behave was inappropiate but is i normal/legal to get 5 WARNINGS from just the SAME post? I agreed the first warning but than I got 4 more warnings from the same issue. Su I offer< x <demand to delete my warning ...

2)"Creature of indeterminate gender" was not a part of showing my anger or with your words: "flaming" Antony's posts and relate was "birdo"s so I used Birdo's description from brawl to take his attention, not to show my fury.

3)Can you people please stop reffering "showing rage" issue as "flaming"? Really, thats not even a real word, it made up from internet! If I use "freezing" as "Showing gloom" in internet, will people use it? NO, thats why "flaming", is an inappropiate word. Sincerely, -- 05:52, 25 January 2012 (EST)
 * Sinanco, flaming is a real word: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flame#Verb ((Internet) To post a destructively critical or abusive message, especially to provoke dissent or controversy). If behavior is out of line in a disproportionate way, it's ok to get five warnings, to the point where you'll face a block against your account. If you think your warning is in error, appeal central is the place to get admin judgement on your warnings, although I think this will fail, given that the sysops agreed for this warning to be issued. I hope I could have helped. -- 07:15, 25 January 2012 (EST)
 * For point number one, the warning for flaming is the third that was based solely off your wiki behavior patterns, and only the second to deal with your discourteous behavior. Also, your warning wasn't just from that post alone, but from several other comments referring to Hypnotoad as a "creature of indeterminate gender" in a negative way over the past few days. As for point number two, you used that term to refer to Hypnotoad in a negative or offensive fashion: there was no other reason to use that term other than to be offensive, so it's considered flaming. As for point number three, B.wilson pretty much cleared up any ambiguity there. Also, appealing this warning would violate one of the rules about appealing warnings: you cannot remove warnings or reminders issued by an administrator. Plus, you'd be appealing to the same people that unanimously agreed that you deserved a Last Warning for your actions, so it would be highly unlikely to succeed even if you were allowed to appeal it.

Same IP
I've created that account yesterday because I was unable to login with this one, but that problem disappeared today. --Grim80 10:10, 25 January 2012 (EST)
 * Is there something wrong with that? You seem upset for some reason. --Grim80 10:21, 25 January 2012 (EST)

Sales Rank
Dear Bop1996, I got a letter about you taking away the Sales Ranks. I would like to know what I was doing wrong that caused you to take them off of the talk pages. Please simply write your answer in the comments.

Sincerely, Paper Mario Kart

Wiki Maintenance

 * I've been checking the wiki maintenance section to try and help, but it just annoys me. All of the sections that need improvement I know nothing about!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:03, 27 January 2012 (EST)
 * You don't necessarily have to help with something specifically on that page or its features. In fact, you can just click "Random page" in the sidebar and you may find a problem you can fix, etc. Also, if you are reading the wiki for actual reading purposes, you might notice some things, so that's another way of finding things to edit. Also, if you're online, you can always patrol the Recent Changes to see what's going on, and you may notice things there too. If you can't find something to edit, these are good places to start.
 * Okay. Do you have to write on an articles talk page if you want to remove something like a rewrite template?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:35, 27 January 2012 (EST)
 * Not necessarily. If it's obviously supposed to be removed, like when you've just added images and there's an image requesting template, you should definitely remove it, but if there's something you aren't sure of, you should probably discuss it on the talk page first.
 * Right, because some articles clearly need the template removed (like some saying they need more images when it has many more images than other articles that are the same size).M&amp;L Beware my fury! 15:07, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Spike Top

 * Hey, I was just wondering would Spike Top be considered a Buzzy Beetle? He isn't on the article, so I want to know so I can add information about him on it. Actually, it would be better to just merge them or put a link in the related enemies section (which I would create) if he is. Can you answer my question?M&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:30, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * On Buzzy Beetle, Spike Top is already listed as a subspecies in the infobox, and their similarities and differences with Spike Tops are pointed out in the article where relevant, so I don't think there's any problem with how the situation is handled right now.
 * Okay. Thanks. Once again I was taught something by you. What are the odds of that happening?;DM&amp;L Beware my fury! 20:46, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * I'm not sure, since I don't know if your questions will continue to be questions I can answer or not, but I'll do my best to answer your questions.
 * It was a joke. Didn't you see the winkie happy face? And you seem to know everything I need to know.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:05, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * Well thanks, I'm glad to be of help to you.
 * You're welcome. Now I have to go, the wiki needs editing and I'm the one to be doing it. I'll check here occasionally to see if you left replies, but I'll be busy, so don't expect an answer right away. See ya!M&amp;L Beware my fury! 21:13, 30 January 2012 (EST)

Not Again

 * I need help on another talk page. Here's a link.M&amp;L Beware my fury! 22:38, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * Wait, I solved it. Yeah, that's right. Me. On my own. Figured it out... eventually. It's all cool, no need to contribute to the discussion, it's dead. Yup, I'm a genius. And I got a new sig. Check it out!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 23:15, 30 January 2012 (EST)
 * Sigh... not anymore. That idiot got all riled up and started it up again. P.S., it`s again.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:23, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * Replying to your concerns isn't causing trouble; rather, it's attempting to come to a reasonable conclusion to the problem at hand.
 * Um... I'm not a genius, but do you mean that Raven Effect is just replying and is trying to fix things?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:29, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * Pretty much, yes. When he replies to your concerns on a talk page, he's not causing a fight, he's trying to discuss it rationally, even if that involves disagreeing with what you have to say.
 * Yeah, but sometimes he acts a bit rude about it. Anyway, I still don't know how to solve the problem, and I REALLY need some help on adding the information to the article. The article is Mario (series) and the information that needs to be added is for the Game and Watch system and games.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:46, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * The way I see it is this: you can go out and play all the G&W Mario games so you can add the info, or you can wait for a user with that knowledge to try to edit that article. There's not much else you can do about it than that.
 * Don't own any of them, don't know where in Canada you can find them. And this article has been nominated for FA, this is surely not the time to not know something that will help me! Can you ask any of your friends that are users (or any other users) if they can add it?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:07, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * It's kinda an obscure game, and I don't know of anyone in particular with great knowledge of those games, so I can't help there.

"Then just ask random users! Eventually, we can find someone that can help. After all, someone created the Game and Watch article, so someone knows about it.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:13, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * This problem has also expanded from the Mario (series) talk page and yours (as I added it here) to my own. An user posted a comment on my talk page and I posted one on his (not the reply, that's on my page. You can't miss it, it just needs a picture and it can become an article!) and it's now everywhere. If you can try to help, as this is ending up like the Trampoline Time talk page incident (not inthe sense it's become a big arguement that everyone involved in it was talking about, in the sense that it's going around everywhere and may cause problems) and we don't want gthat to happen, we just want the issue settled. Thanks for all your help!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:12, 31 January 2012 (EST)
 * Don't worry, no need to get involved. If you drop by my talk page, please don't add to the last article (22 on the table of contents) because another user is already helping unless you have something very important. However, feel free to create a new header and talk to me (I would appreciate this, as the only comments you have made on my talk page are about what I'm doing wrong or how to fix something) and if you have areply for this, please post it on my talk page, as it is very small, smaller than yours (as you have two previous talk pages archived). I ould greatly appreciate it if you dropped by and started a conversation, but feel free to edit the wiki if you start one while I'm replying. And if you start one, check often as I reply as soon as I see that someone has left a message. Thank you SO MUCH!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 22:10, 31 January 2012 (EST)

Hi
Dude, the Toadette Kart is actually the slowest vehicle in the game. The Para Wing is a bit faster than the Toadette Kart, while being slightly slower than the Goo Goo Buggy.


 * Alright. I don't recall any revisions that said this specifically in that way, and there doesn't seem to be any problem with Toadette Kart right now.

Spinoffs
I believe those games are better suited for the spin-offs template. They are listed as spinoffs in Mario_(series) already. Otherwise, we could just merge the two templates.--Platform 07:33, 2 February 2012 (EST)
 * No, they are listed as sub-series. Sub-series =/= spin-off series.

Monty Mole Trouble

 * In the category for Monty Moles, could you add Whacka? I don't know how to add characters, but Whacka is most likely a Monty Mole relative and should be in the category. I bet it would take a big disscussion and only a patroller like you would be able to handle it (they're not gonna take me seriously, now are they?) so can you?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 18:46, 3 February 2012 (EST)
 * We don't have proof they are Monty Moles, so I would actually oppose categorizing Whackas as Monty Moles. You can add categories to pages using "" . Also, just because I'm a patroller doesn't make me perfect or give me more leverage in discussions: it only means I am trusted with several extra tools I use to improve the wiki further and am responsible for helping managing the wiki with the rest of the admins, so appealing to me when you have something you want added without a discussion isn't going to help anything.
 * Okay. And BTW, Raven Effect helped me create my first proposal on the Whacka talk page. Check it out!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:37, 3 February 2012 (EST)
 * What? You too, Bop? But... why? Akmost all ground dwelling creatures are related to Monty Moles somehow. And how can I alert more people of the proposal?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:09, 3 February 2012 (EST)

Highest Level

 * Hey, Bop? I gotta question for you. I'm not sure if you know, but in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, what is the highest level Mario and Luigi can reach? I have the game, and on one save file I'm trying to find out by leveling up by crazy (they're both at level 56) but I want to know instead of just acheiving it (in case it just goes on forever) and I really want to hear it so I'll know when I have reached the highest level. If you don't know, it's okay, but I hope you do, because I'm really curious!M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:24, 4 February 2012 (EST)
 * I don't know since I've never played M&L: SS. Sorry.
 * It's okay. Do you know any users who have, because I really want to know but the only users I know are you and Raven Effect. I already asked him, and I think it would be odd to just go to some random users talk page and ask "What's the highest level you can get in M&L Superstar Saga?" because I'm sorta shy, and they would sorta not know who I am. Can you ask another user? I'll ask users too, so if you do ask users, check the page to see if I've already asked. And if you find out, put the answer on my talk page.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:11, 4 February 2012 (EST)
 * Oh, you could probably find several users that know what it is on the wiki. You'd actually have an easier time finding out by checking GameFAQs or asking around the forums or chat. Anyway, one Google search with a specific search term brought 99 as the top result.
 * 99, eh? Hmm... well, I already asked one other user, Tails777, but I suppose I could explain whats going on. I bet that 99 is correct, but I'm going to check on my game to make sure. I may not be as active on the wiki for a while, as it will take long, but I'll let you know, okay?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:23, 4 February 2012 (EST)

Another Question

 * Okay, I've got another question. Where can I buy Super Mario 64 DS?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:38, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * Idk, Amazon or someplace. Look it up. Google is your friend.
 * Okay. Maybe EB games might have it? They have a lot of old games. And yes, Google is my friend, although I hate how most of the results have just one of the words you searched, like if you search the Eiffel Tower, some results have just "the" in them. And I can't, because I'm busy editing the wiki.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 19:54, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * Okay, I'm just going to ask the question here instead of another header. How long does it take before a discussion is considered dead?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 20:41, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * It depends. If there was a discussion that was never resolved on the talk page or in the article, then it may be worth reviving to provide a good solution. If the discussion is solved or not worth bringing up again, then don't bring it up again. Length isn't really as much of a measure compared to whether a satisfactory solution was reached.
 * I know that length isn't, but why did I get a warning? If issues aren't solved and I answer, I shouldn't get a warning because I'm not breaking rules, and that's what I've been doing on talk pages (or starting another coversation) yet I got a warning when in reality, I wasn't doing anything wrong. Why?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:09, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * In actuality, talk pages are used for a very specific purpose: to solve problems relating to the article's content in a constructive manner through discussion. Commenting in old, dead discussions does nothing to improve the issue unless it's coming forth with a valid solution to a long-neglected issue. Using talk pages in nonconstructive manners such as that is considered a level one offense, which led to your first reminder template, then not heeding the reminder led to a warning.
 * But I don't comment in long dead discussions since I got the warning. I haven't done anything wrong, I swear! Why did I get this warning when I didn't do what it says I did? Why? Does this user dislike me, or is this a prank warning?M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:21, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * Actually, looking through your contributions, you did comment in several dead discussions. See here and here. The warning was not a joke warning (doing so is prohibited anyway as per an old passed proposal), and wasn't based off personal dislike as far as I can tell, so there's not any problem with it.
 * You said that I shouldn't comment in dead discussions that have been left hanging unless it would help, and those comments I made were to help answer the question. I answered the Mario & Luigi being twins question and what Kamek would be classified as (Minion, caretaker, etc.) so technically, I did help and I don't deserve a warning since I just proved I didn't do anything wrong.M&amp;L Just because you&#39;re in red doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re strong. Have at you! 21:59, 5 February 2012 (EST)