Talk:New Super Mario Bros. U

Infinite 1UP
New Super Mario Bros. U　infinite 1UP⇒https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNR9rCZVhWA

Bowser is in the game
Although he has not appeared in person, he can be seen in the background in a picture. This means that he at least makes a cameo, which still means that he's in the game. I'm just going to add him.

This is the picture in question: User:MarioMaster720
 * We can add him and also we should add later about Vincent Van Gogh (I think that is the guy)the guy who made artwork that is very similar to the background of that level.
 * Yeah, Van Gogh is the one who's paintings look like this.--

Flying Racoon?
I don't know, but what I saw was Mario getting a Bat Mushroom and turning into a bat --Walleo 16:24, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

I think you mean the Squirrel Power-up. The Raccoon power-up isn't confirmed nor the Bat power-up.

Never mind. I didn't read it correctly. --Walleo 21:53, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Weird Goombas
Those strange looking goombas with round heads, I figured out what makes them different from normal ones! They don't fall off the edge, but turn around, like Red Koopas.


 * I didn't know that but I don't think these are the Round Goombas. If you look at the tops of their heads they have like a cap thing like acorns. Would they be like called Acorn Goombas? That is what I wanna know.

Me neither, and I certainly don't think they're Goombos. I'll remove both of those from the enemies, until more infromation is found out about them. --Landfish7 20:20, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

They're the Kuribon Goombas from Super Mario World, I think. User:Marioluigi9

There Actually Goombrats. User:SuperMarioBros

Goomba Towers
In the trailer at the end they appeared right before the flagpole. Shown around 1:30 here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eO8xe2AUY4c#! Trailer] -- Landfish7 20:20, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Nevermind, I realized the stupidity in that. --Landfish7 20:50, 5 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Yeah that is NSMB2 not NSMBU

Baby Yoshis
From what I can tell from the screenshots, the abilities of the baby yoshis are --Fbrookie 01:34, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Blue - spits bubbles to defeat enemies
 * Red (purple) - balloons up and can fly
 * Yellow - glows

We already know, we just haven't put it in yet. Maybe it is because we are waiting for more on the Baby Yoshis.

Connection with NSMBMii
Does this game have anything to do with last year's New Super Mario Bros. Mii demo? Looks like this game borrows some concepts such as Miis. But it also looks completely different. Would it be okay to make the connection?


 * It's based off of it, but only through the Miis. --DonnyKD 02:42, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
 * I don't think there's any direct connection. True they use similar/identical elements as other games in the series, but then again...what Mario game doesn't?

Actually, I think there is a connection between NSMBM and this game - just watch the Iwata Asks: New Super Mario Bros. U video. 11:24, 7 June 2012 (EDT)


 * Also, in the New Super Mario Bros. Mii videos, the same exact waterfall level with the water geysers appears in the Wii U trailer! Look:



This one was in a partial video for NSMBU that was shown after the game was announced. It's also very similar in layout to the waterfall one in NSMBU too with the Urchins on the group art. NinjaYoshi


 * According to nintendo world report, nsmbm was a tech demo that would later become a full-fledged game, which is now nsmbu. here's the link saying it. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29838

I say we should merge those pages.--Thejfh1999 22:31, 8 July 2012 (EDT) Same here! DK Fan

I'm pretty sure that NSMBMii is the same as NSMBUWorld 6 (talk) 03:14, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
 * They have nearly the same engine. -- 04:58, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Release Date
I read on amazon that NSMBU is going to be released on 12/31/2013, I think they meant 12/31/2012 but I just wanted to mention this. False. Amazon is false. NSMBU is coming out Nov.18th 2012 in the USA, Is out in Japan, and will be in Europe and Australia Nov.30th 2012

Anything that ends in 31 is an obvious placeholder.

Available at wii u launch!!!
Hi. If you check out the Iwanta Asks video on the e3 2012 website, that director says the game will be available at wiiu's launch. http://e3.nintendo.com/games/#/wiiu/new-super-mario-bros-u theres the link.- Link 007

Level with colored wooden blocks


This is not a level is a area... Check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MUJnyESAsQ
 * On it, bro. DonnyKD 01:35, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

I am pretty sure this is part of the grass level, it is a bonus area in the level. I am pretty sure I did see it in a demo of the game.

That is part of Course 1.

oh oh Wooden Blocks I can add to the Items section Marioyoshi (Talk).

Yoshi is ridable?


it seems by the looks of this artwork we might get to ride a yoshi to but though he never showed in the trailer or in a single screenshot well I wonder he will do this time?


 * We'll find out when we'll retreive more information. -- 13:17, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

He looks perfectly ridable to me. He was ridable in Super Mario World, Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy 2, remember? So he should most likely be ridable in NSMBU(I'd rather call it NSMB4), correct? --Mario X-Fan 45

You will just try to figure it out, but you should ride Yoshi, because you may JUST HATE BEING HIT BY AN ENEMY. This is how you ride Yoshi. Also, there are new Baby Yoshis: Balloon Baby Yoshi, Bubble Baby Yoshi, and Glowing Baby Yoshi. --New Supermatt Bros. (talk) 00:15, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

4 Yoshi colours?
Will there be 4 Yoshi's (regular) as the Wii version? -- 17:04, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

Were not sure about it yet yoshi wasn't shown in gameplay yet but his artwork shows that he will so I dunno what colors (besides green)

From what's confirmed so far that is highly unlikely, but what has been confirmed is that they have Baby Bubble Yoshi (Blue), Baby Blimp Yoshi (Magenta), Baby Bulb Yoshi (Light-Yellow), and Yoshi(Green).Here's my prediction: that Bulb Yoshi looks like it will be replaced like Red Yoshi and Blue Yoshi, because of the color I honestly think that it will be raplaced by a Baby Fire Yoshi (Red) and it will be for seeing in the dark and breathing fire/shooting fireballs.

Well we don't know for sure dude they could possibly add more colored yoshi's cause that could be confusing riding all green yoshi's since there bigger then baby ones and funny all baby yoshi's have orange shoes instead of colored shoes we will get info and see but i gotta a funny feeling that the SMW version's of yoshi culd appear (not that it is true) ,

Pictures
Could anyone upload New Super Mario Bros. U pictures? I'll put them on the gallery. EthanFerris 18:06, 16 July 2012

Uhmm... you have to send the sources of the pictures. 17:25, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

Bubble and Ultra Ground Pound
Can you go back in a bubble while pressing A? And can you do the Ultra Ground Pound? (That is 2 Players or more are Ground Pounding at the same time). 17:25, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

Acorn Goomba
Could someone upload the artwork of those ugly "Acorn Goombas"? I mean those "unnamed Goombas that resemble acorns".


 * sigh* Don't you understand we don't have any way to get that. We need sources and ways to tell we have new art. Can't you wait.

I was hoping the artwork came out. Sorry.

The Cover?
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/bestmariofan/noonlyon.png is this the cover to game it looks kinda real to me but i sorta think it is fake that frame is real though it was comfirmed but i mean the pic I don't even know if it is but the 5 looks kinda got a feeling it could be fake...


 * Fan art, fan art, fan art, its fan art. Made by a NeoGAF user. So no, its not real. DonnyKD (talk) 01:38, 9 August 2012 (EDT)
 * Dude, don't repeat it 5 times in a row, it's minor spam. We just have to say the cover is not official. -- 03:50, 12 August 2012 (EDT)

Ice Flower? and Fire Mario
well the ice flower is my predition I think that since this is based of NSMBM and had used power ups from that demo even is a NSMBW sequeal but my bet is it would appear sort of likeley. Also Fire Mario is missing in the transformaion article ,
 * Like all Super Mario Bros. games, the Fire Flower will appear, especially the Super Mushroom. It is most likely the Ice Flower will reappear.--Prince Ludwig (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2012 (EDT)

Wii
I think it said this game can be played on the Wii. I have a feeling I'm all mixed-up, though.


 * It never said it could be played on the Wii.

It said you could use the Wii Remote.


 * Yes, but you can also use Wii Remote in Wii U 14:34, 17 August 2012 (EDT)


 * Yes you can use a Wii remote but the disc for NSMBU is strictly for the Wii U.

Dang. 'Cause I have a Wii.

More Power-Ups
Man, there is only one new power up. And three old power-ups. They should return Ice and Peguin Mario. Are there really only 4 Power-Ups. -- 13:58, 17 August 2012 (EDT)


 * We need more info first, wait for the next trailer; it probably shows more power-ups 14:02, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
 * Wait for the next trailer and see for yourself. -- 05:48, 18 August 2012 (EDT)

Good news for ya. Ice Mario is returning. DK Fan

merge with nsmbm
I have proof that this game is just new super mario bros mii renamed. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29838 Can someone please help me do what it takes to merge those 2 pages??????--Thejfh1999 (talk) 21:35, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
 * That's an assumption, kid. The article was even made BEFORE NSMBU was offically announced. So no, we are not merging, since the two games are almost completely different from each other. DonnyKD (talk) 02:40, 24 August 2012 (EDT)


 * One is a tech demo, the other can be considered as the modified version of it but other than that they're different. 05:33, 24 August 2012 (EDT)
 * The Ice Flower has been confirmed, now can we merge them? DK Fan
 * That doesn't make any sense. DonnyKD (talk) 21:15, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
 * The Ice Flower was in New Super Mario Bros. Mii. DK Fan
 * And the Fire Flower was in Super Mario Galaxy. Let's merge it with Super Mario Bros.!... DonnyKD (talk) 08:31, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Not funny. Just look at the latest trailer for the game and you will see tons of stuff from the tech demo. DK Fan

Controls
What are the controls to fly a bit and to go a bit up? -- 16:53, 25 August 2012 (EDT)
 * From what I saw, either shaking the GamePad/Wii Remote, or pressing ZR. DonnyKD (talk) 20:58, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

Bosses?
Have there been any confirmed bosses yet. Bowser is likley to be in the game but will he?World 6 (talk) 03:18, 30 August 2012 (EDT)


 * Nope nothing confirmed as of yet. Only tree stages were shown at E3, revealing Baby Yoshi and the new power up.

The Koopalings will have the castle stages, boom-boom and Kamek in forts and bowser jr. in doomship stages. {{User:Fawful1996

Fortress?
Someone listed a fortress as a level. I haven't seen any fortress yet? does anyone have a source? Yoshiyoshiyoshi (talk) 12:12, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
 * it must be a rumor: Nintendo hasn't yet released a screenshot of a fortress level. -- 12:13, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
 * He's talking baout this shot: See the fortress under the message bubbles? DonnyKD (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
 * DON'T BE SO ARROGANT. I just said there's no screenshot of a fortress level. -- 04:57, 2 September 2012 (EDT)
 * There is a screenshot of a fortress level. Rather, there's a screenshot of a fortress, period. DonnyKD (talk) 05:18, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Debugging


Look closely at the grass. Don't you see some red outlined squares? It's probably a debugging mode accidentally shwon. -- 05:01, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

That is showing that each time you play the course the tiles are different. There is a video showing it by someone named NSMBWhacks.

Somebody get to work on this
New from GameInformer:

- dozens of levels across one world map, like Super Mario World - map can be panned around and explored at any time - multiple branching paths that let you pick which way to go - this is much more than the tradition level choosing, which usually gives you only two paths to choose from - Game Informer spotted 7 worlds: Acorn Plains, Sparkling Waters (tropical), Frosted Glacier, Layer Cake Desert (complete with melting desserts), areas similar to Forest of Illusion and Sky World and a world surround by a tornado - mid-world fortresses guarded by Boom-Boom - end-level castles guarded by Koopalings - Super Acorn power-up makes you a flying squirrel - Bowser kidnaps Peach once again

So, Super Acorn, Boom-Boom, and Koopalings, along with new worlds. DonnyKD (talk) 21:29, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

More screenshots found
I have found even more screenshots on this site it even shows one with Torpedo Ted returning and screenshots with Mario riding Yoshi and other elements look right there can they also be uploaded http://www.palmgamer.com/fab-new-super-mario-bros-u-details-revealed/ (scroll down and click them to get the large images)

I am on it! So don't worry.

Thank you I am always giving the heads up

Unbelievable
This might be like Super Mario Bros. 3 cause Boom-Boom is the fortress boss and Koopalings are back AGAIN! in the 4th and probably final New Super Mario Bros. game in the series. Bu the Koopalings just unbeleivable! DAng!

--User:CRode


 * Yeah, I refuse to believe that this game is more like SMB3 just because Boom-Boom and the Koopalings are here. Not to mention this is a talk page about the article. What you're writing is better suited for the forums. DonnyKD (talk) 21:15, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Well, I was just shocked that the Koopalings are back once AGAIN! And Boom-Boom but the Koopalings they just returned and they're back again!


 * It's true that the fact that Boom Boom making his appearance in New Super Mario Bros. U, the game that looks similar to Super Mario World, is just unbelievable. Also that the fact that the Reznors appearing in New Super Mario Bros. 2, the game that looks similar to that of Super Mario Bros. 3, is unbelievable as well. But just know the fact that Boom Boom still needed to make another modern appearance after Super Mario 3D Land and reprise his role as a troublemaker, also, one of the major members of the Koopa Troop. Pom Pom should reappear as well (don't forget about her). Remember that Bowser Jr. often replaced the Koopalings and Boom Boom. Yeah, feels like the New Super Mario Bros. games are getting some sort of...how should I say it..."unmatching mix-up". On-topic, I believe that we really need a screenshot of Boom Boom or an artwork of Boom Boom from New Super Mario Bros. U. Is there any screenshot of Boom Boom around?--Prince Ludwig (talk) 01:13, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
 * All we have is Game Informer's word, no actual screenshots. DonnyKD (talk) 01:30, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

DOOMSHIP!?
Wil this resemble something also from Super Mario Bros. 3? Will the Doomship return and will the Koopalings battle be in a different order again! Will the Koopalings reappear in the doomship again? --User:CRode


 * No one knows yet. DonnyKD (talk) 21:15, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
 * Ah, now we know. Bowser and the Koopalings have their own ships, but it doesn't seem like they're levels/playable. DonnyKD (talk) 12:33, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

New Power-Up?
Hey, look at Mario. And if you see it really good, you see something on his back. It could be a new Power-Up, like Bob-Omb Mario. Or is it a Bob-Omb near Mario, or something else? Reply! http://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/d7/Underground_POW_NSMBU.png 14:50, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
 * I'd say it's Mario's hand 14:58, 10 September 2012 (EDT)
 * It is just Mario's left hand.
 * Yep,but how is he hitting the POW!, with a koopa shell? User:CRode
 * No Koopa in sight so no. He threw it.

More Characters ?!
LOOK AT THIS LINK: http://mariopartylegacy.com/2012/09/tezuka-on-other-playable-characters-in-new-super-mario-bros-u/ see!

Well it is not garenteed that peach and wario would be playable even though the 3P mii did have wario's clothes while the 4P had blue clothin (waluigi is black and purple) I guess wario can be a maybe as for peach would be fine i guess maybe like saving her then unlocking her but it is not promising that they will but you never now.
 * They outright said that they chose the Miis over established Mario characters. DonnyKD (talk) 20:44, 12 September 2012 (EDT)

First main game to be a launch title in years
This game is officially confirmed as a launch title for the console in Japan, due the fact it is the first Super Mario game to be released as a launch title since Super Mario 64, should we point that somewhere in the article or it is too superficial?

Wii U Deluxe + NSMBU for Europe?
Will there be an Wii U Deluxe Bundle + NSMBU for Europe? 12:02, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
 * No Nintendo Land will be bundled. NSMBU is a launch title. 21:54, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

Thwimps return?
it seems thwimps have said to be enemies but i never saw any where's the source?

It was shown in a video somewhere. I saw them too. 19:58, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

what time part?

I don't know which video. I am trying to find it.

good luck i need proof on there 3D design

At around 1:20 there are Thwimps.

Flophoppers?
What are Flophoppers doing in the enemy list? Could I have the link? I really want to see NSMBU appearance! --Yoshidino (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

They don't appear in NSMBU, as far as we know. The person who added them to the enemy list did not cite any sources, plus no trailers I seen have any of those enemies in there. But I think most of the enemies he unneccesarily added might appear in NSMBU, but the truth is not known yet.

Sidewards Somersault?
Is Mario doing a Sidewards Somersault? http://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/f2/WendyBossNSMBU.png 10:26, 14 September 2012 (EDT)
 * No, he got defeated by Wendy 10:27, 14 September 2012 (EDT)


 * OH MY GOSH!!! Look in the background behind the windows!!! It's Miis!! What are they doing there? Please reply please!!!
 * They're here because the developers decided to put them in the game. Simple.
 * They appear in Boost rush mode only. They appear in castles outside windows in trees and on the ground. I guess they cheer for the player.
 * Then that is pretty awesome.

I've seen boos in winows in NSMB2 in a ghost house level but, I never noticed Miis. The only time I saw a Mii in a mario game was Mario Kart Wii.Tf2 fan810 (talk) 07:44, 22 November 2012 (EST)

For the people asking about the world order
The main article page says Acorn Plains is World 1, Layer Cake Desert is World 2, and Frosted Glacier is World 3. Here's the proof (go to 3:30): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsiO5qlyeIw DonnyKD (talk) 23:14, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

Super Leaf + Large Block


Look northeast near Mario, I see something brown and sparkling. It looks like a Super Leaf to me but I'm not entirely sure... Also southwest of Yellow Toad there is a block which is larger then a normal block.

I think the sparkly thing you see is actually the Mii with the Flying Squirrel suit, and the block you're saying is just the enlightenment of the screen imo.    dodgerblue   cyan
 * The "Super Leaf" is Flying Squirrel Mario and the large block is where the 3-Up Moons came from. DonnyKD (talk) 11:45, 15 September 2012 (EDT)

With the block i through he meant the enlightenment at the right part of the screen at the top XD. But the block you're saying is a block with a music note inside that pops out 3-Up moons, and is currently called 3-Up Moon Blocks.    dodgerblue   cyan

Going in bubble is possible! YAY!
You can go in a bubble in this game. Proof, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJoLPzRck28&list=UUN2XePorRokPB9TEgRZpddg&index=3&feature=plcp <--- Look at 1:20 12:48, 15 September 2012 (EDT)

Vocalize on Mii?
I see on the page of Baby Yoshi's that they vocalize to Mario, Luigi or the Toads if they are carry them. Is that happening too when a Mii carries him? 06:07, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Yes

challenge mode
I saw challenge mode on the trailer on the e-shop.World 6 02:03, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

Start working on the World articles?
I know we shouldn't until the game's near release/when we have enough info, but I say we have enough to suffice an article summarizing the worlds. Like, for instance, Acorn Plains. We already have a rough estimate at what it looks like: [url]http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nsmbupanorama.png[/url] And we've seen every level except the Enemy Course, the level on the hill and the Fortress. DonnyKD (talk) 06:12, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

More Platforms!
There are platforms with a coin on it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc71P4pJldI <--- look at 1:11  09:28, 22 September 2012 (EDT)


 * We've known that ever since the trailer there have always been coins on the platforms! User:CRode

New Screenshots
I found new screenshots in a video of GameXplain but i don't know where he has the screenshots. (NOTE: There are new screenshots in the video but there are old ones appearing too.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc71P4pJldI <--- There you go!

World 8??
could the grasslands from the past nsmb games?! CRode (talk)

Yes, It is. The Boss Takes Plase in Bowser's Airship but Mario has to get to the right tower to get to the cannon to reach it. I have heard that Bowser's Battle is simalar to Bowser Jr's Boss battles from NSMBW.


 * All this speculation is pointless unless you provide REFERENCES. Don't get me wrong, I believe you, but others won't so you must prove it through, either a site, video or if you mysteriously got the game before the world did (which in that case tell me how). Otherwise the content you'll add will immediately get deleted. 13:33, 30 September 2012 (EDT)


 * When the Koopalings fly to different worlds, the area is in the form of a map.KoopaTroopa!.png MegaKoopa   Talk  10:49, 9 October 2012 (EDT)

It was on 2 youtube videos, one showning in the latest trailer that after Mario and Co. are thrown to acorn plains the koopalings splitup in all directions while bowser's airship stays at the castle. and if one takes a closer look at the castle there is a door on the left leading up to the right tower where Mario and Co. are shot to the airship.

Seriously sign your comments. But that is not proof it is world 8. It could just be a special world or an non-acessiable area. We don't want to guess other on things. Videos aren't the best, text is the best because it explains the details.

Awesome prediction! (talk)

World 7 is the grasslands, there are 7 worlds, like in Super Mario World. -IGGY7735

Thwomps Being Destroyed
Is destroying Thwomps actually possible in this game? I don't remember bumping into an article that said that.

It is possible but only using Boost mode and Star power.

Its only possible when the player playing as Mario or the like steps on the Boost Blocks with the symbols on them. On the top of the GamePad screen, everytime that happens, a star icon fills up. When its fully filled, the GamePad player has the ability to destry enemies while creating Star Boost Blocks. DonnyKD (talk) 21:21, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

new trailer
it's a new trailer of this game, it's 6:00 A.M., i need adobe flash player, the trailer is from gameInformer


 * We already saw that trailer. I was really looking forward to see a new trailer of New Super Mario Bros. U, ya know.--Prince Ludwig (talk) 08:12, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

Green Coin Ring.
 (0:57) Now, what could be its purpose?


 * They activate Green Coins. Its like Red Coins, but in fives packs of three, and they only give out 1-ups.


 * I think they were also planned for NSMBWii, considering there was an unused green coin model in said game. User:Smithuser

Announcements
It has been confirmed that Sparkling Waters is now World 4. User:Marioluigi9


 * Where, exactly? DonnyKD (talk) 18:40, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

MarioMan51 told me when he sent me something in Swapnote. User:Marioluigi9

New Info
Parachute Coins are in.

http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nsmbuoct2-600x339.jpg

It looks like you can take Baby Yoshis out of their home levels too.

http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/nsmbuoct1-600x337.jpg

DonnyKD (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

DonnyKD, the player can't take Baby Yoshi's out of the home level. Alot of levels does have the same look like this level. Almost whole Acorn Plains does have a level like this. Cause on the demo on E3 if you finish a level where Baby Yoshi's are in it, Mario, Luigi, Yellow Toad, Blue Toad or a Mii should release the Baby Yoshi, and they will wave a goodbye. Maybe you're right, but let's wait till Nintendo comfirms it or wait till 30/11/2012. But the screenshots are real ;). 10:31, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

That was the E3 version, you should check out some of the videos from Nintendos recent events. http://i45.tinypic.com/2ch9hj8.jpg Yoshi still waves, but then he follows you into the castle. Whether this means anything for sure is unknown until the game is released, but having a change like that made might mean that Nintendo has something in mind. ~ Chaoxys

Yes, i saw a video, the Baby Yoshi came in the castle. But when they played "Acrobat Pack" and they finished with a Balloon Baby Yoshi, he didin't appear. Maybe it will in the real version. Let's see :). 08:35, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

Really?
Are there references for "Nabbit" and "P-Acorn"? MegaKoopa  Talk  14:16, 30 October 2012 (EDT)


 * OK I found it. KoopaTroopa!.png MegaKoopa   Talk  14:21, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

Loads of info
this artcle needs some serious editting look at this http://mariopartylegacy.com/2012/10/sode-jungle-p-acorn-and-more-revealed-for-new-super-mario-bros-u/ ,

World 4 or 5
Everyone is asking wich is world 4 or world 5, Soda Jungle or Sparkling Waters? Well, i know the answer. Soda Jungle is the fourth world and Sparkling Waters is the fifth world. That's the original ranking. It is possible to choose the way that is conversaly, but it's not the original ranking. If you don't agree with mee, reply and let's discuss about this. 19:01, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
 * No, Sparkling Waters shouldn't be the fifth world. You can go straight to it from Layer Cake Desert. So really, Frosted Glacier and Sparkling Waters can either be the third or fifth worlds. DonnyKD (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

You said it shouldn't be the fifth world, but it IS the fifth world. Frosted Glacier IS the third world, soda jungle IS the fourth world and sparkling waters IS the fifth world. 10:38, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
 * No, it isn't. Acorn Plains might be the first world, and Layer Cake Desert the second, but Sparkling Waters could be the fifth OR third world, or can be skipped entirely. Same goes for Frosted Glacier. There's no confirmation or indication that what you say is true. DonnyKD (talk) 10:39, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

How do you know you can go via LCD to Sparkling Waters? 10:42, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
 * http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=189230 and it says "After World 2, you reach a fork in the road that leads to either Sparking Waters or Frozen Glacier". DonnyKD (talk) 10:45, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Ok 10:48, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

This means that I'm going to call Frosted Glacier World 3A, Sparkling Waters World 3B, and Soda Jungle World 4.

Extra levels?
Around here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YIk9dR-XA8E#t=26s There seems to be a level that doesn't seem to fit any named level description. Its the level before Soda Jungle, but it doesn't look like its part of it. It doesn't look like its part of Frosted Glacier, either, since it comes after the castle. Additionally, the level prolly has a secret exit (or a secret in Sparkling Waters leads to it), since it goes down to Sparkling Waters. DonnyKD (talk) 18:10, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

This is what i THINK: It comes after Sparkling Waters with the Secret Exit with the fork of Layer Cake Desert. I think it's part of Frosted Glacier because it's on something snowy. Like i said, this is what i THINK. 15:47, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

Starry Night Level Walktrough!
Hey guys, i found a video of GamesRadar on youtube, and... it is a walktrough of the Starry Night Level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOE-0QbFD7s&feature=related <--- The source. 15:50, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

Youtube external links
External links are (usually) to do with official sites and/or well written articles about the subject on Wikipedia or NIWA. If we're going to add these Youtube links to the article, shouldn't they be uploaded as media files instead of just links ?? I will be happy to do this but maybe someone can convince me otherwise.... 09:31, 5 November 2012 (EST)

Split Up
I think we should split up Boost Rush from the page Boost Mode. It's a complete other thing then Boost Mode itself. Please reply fast because the vacation is over for me and if you don't reply fast, i will see this late. 11:47, 5 November 2012 (EST)

Bowser Jr and Airships are in
In a video by game explain Bowser Jr is pioloting a koopa clown car transformed into a mini submarine. The battle takes place in a water filled airship. Missle Teds and Green Cheep Cheep like creatures can also be seen. Boom-boom also attacks much like SMB3.


 * You're a bit late to the party.

Some New Screenshots + Boom Boom battle Screenshots
This is a video of GameXplain, there are some new screenshots in the video. There are also now Boom Boom Screenshots published. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94lTOwXMjM&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ&index=9&feature=plcp 12:59, 6 November 2012 (EST)


 * Please upload as many screenshots as you can. Youtube videos however can only be used as references. 12:18, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Sparkling Waters World Map + Power-Up Inventory are in!
There is a video from GameXplain, and the world map of Sparkling Waters is shown. Do you remember if you press 1 on the world map in NSMBWii that you'll see you're Power-Up inventory? NSMBU has this also! Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_On-OlLCFw&feature=autoplay&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ&playnext=1 Sparkling Waters Map: Watch from 1:06 Power-Up inventory: Watch 1:07 13:20, 6 November 2012 (EST)

Doom Ship & Bowser Jr. Boss Battle Footage Gameplay Footage!
Here is a video of GameXplain of Doom Ship & Bowser Jr. Boss Battle Footage Gameplay Footage. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9AoA8W8dw4&feature=autoplay&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ&playnext=2 13:20, 6 November 2012 (EST)

Coin Battle Gameplay Footage!
Here is a video of GameXplain of Coin Battle Gameplay Footage. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Fh7XtIDrA&feature=autoplay&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ&playnext=4 13:23, 6 November 2012 (EST)

Acorn Plains Map Preview
I founded this first. I founded this from a couple of weeks. But i forgot to put this on the talk. The users has this video from Game Informer <--- (You can also read this in the comments) Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntO_ex2HsSY 13:33, 6 November 2012 (EST)

Bubble Baby Yoshi underwater and limited time underwater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxlhPMCQgo&feature=g-u-u This video here shows Bubble Baby Yoshi in Tropical Refresher (by the way, every level is named "[insert world name here]-[insert number here]" and underneath is the true level name). He seems to have new controls (he can spin and boost for a short distance). Also, in the middle of a video, there was a sound (think Sonic's underwater drowning music) that was only stopped when Mario grabbed a coin in a bubble. DonnyKD (talk) 06:00, 9 November 2012 (EST)

That noise was coins popping out of the pipes, not Mario drowning. ~Chaoxys

Extra Bonus World?
Is there an extra world if you defeat Bowser? Like World 9 of NSMBWii and World Star of NSMB2. I hope there is an extra world. 10:35, 12 November 2012 (EST)


 * There has been no mention of such a world thus far. If you have heard about it from an official source please share it with us. 12:17, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Propeller Mario in the game?
I saw that there are Propeller Cheep-Cheeps are appearing in the game. But it would be lame if there wasn't a propeller mushroom. Will there be one? Let's-a discuss about this! 14:50, 13 November 2012 (EST)
 * Propeller Cheep-Cheep as in, mechanical Cheep-Cheeps using propellers to move forward. DonnyKD (talk) 15:06, 13 November 2012 (EST)


 * Whatever it is, it isn't something to discuss over here. Only bring up the subject if you know of a reference showing a propeller mushroom. Otherwise take discussions like this to the forums. 15:09, 13 November 2012 (EST)

Why so rude? 07:10, 14 November 2012 (EST)
 * Because this type of discussion belongs on the forum. The talk page is for the article itself, not your fantasies for this game. Good day sir.

Numbered Worlds
In the the article the worlds are numbered, but in this game, is like Super Mario World. The name of the levels aren't "1-4" or "3-5", they are named like "Acorn Plains-1" or "Soda Lake-2". I think numbering the worlds is not necessary


 * Yes, although all the levels of each world has a specific-creative name. On the other hand, this needs to be talked over in the forums, not the talk page.

Still don't get it!!!
I still don't get what's the diffrence between a Purple Star and a Regular Star. Can someone Xplain me? 11:07, 16 November 2012 (EST)

A purple star is something that the player with the Gamepad uses for the ability to knock out enemies for a brief amount of time. It is gained by the player jumping on boost blockArgonstorm32 (talk) 11:36, 16 November 2012 (EST)

Video & 3 new pics of Peach's Castle
Peach's Castle has changed a lot ever sinced the gang was gone, see for your self! http://mariopartylegacy.com/2012/11/first-look-at-final-world-of-new-super-mario-bros-u/ CRode (talk) 22:45, 17 November 2012 (EST)CRode

Superstar Road
There are 9 levels and see by you'reself how the world looks like! Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cic93KtnAlY 10:54, 18 November 2012 (EST)

New Twhomp?
What are these enemies rolling like twhomp appearing in this video? this video? --Sonic98 (talk) 13:24, 18 November 2012 (EST)

are called Grrrols just to clear doubts Marioyoshi (talk)

Brick Beetle?
Does that Brick Beetle enemy exist? MegaKoopa  Talk  19:18, 19 November 2012 (EST)


 * shrugs* I don't know, but remembering this guy, it sure is named wrong. So I changed it.

World Map Music Connection to Paper Mario: Sticker Star?
I found it interesting that the music for each world in this game is just a variation of one single composition. This is the same in Paper Mario: Sticker Star. Is this worthy of mentioning in the trivia section of either article? --ckfy63a (talk) 10:34, 20 November 2012 (PST)
 * You might add that Bowser Jr.'s Koopa Clown Car's glass shell from Paper Mario Sticker Star re-appears as well. Koopalmier (talk) 09:19, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Not really, some other platformers do this as well, such as Donkey Kong Country Returns and Mario Sunshine. However you should mention the glass shell. -IGGY7735

Buster Beetle? and references to games
it seems that the returning enemy list says that Buster Beetles from Super Mario Bros. 3 are in this game is there a source where to be found. The game doesn't seem to have references to any games yet can this be added.

A "new" enemy called Brick Beetle was apparently comfirmed, but when I read that I already knew I knew they appeared before, so I changed the name. I still don't know where they're found, though.

I've tried looking for you but can not find you sure you appear in the game? or at least say where it is confirmed that

3 or 4
Just curious as too why we are labeling Sparkling Waters and Frosted Glacier as Worlds 3 and 4 now....I have not seen anything in game to distinguish which one the game considers World 3 and World 4. --SinnohMasterGalaxy (talk) 14:52, 22 November 2012 (EST)
 * Superstar Road-3 is a water course, and Superstar Road-4 is a ice course. Since every level is based on the world you need the Star Coins from, its one hint. Other sources (like GameXplain) label Sparkling Waters as World 3. DonnyKD (talk) 16:48, 22 November 2012 (EST)
 * Thanks...I actually noticed another thing when I played today. After Layer-Cake Desert I went to Frosted Glacier and then Soda Jungle. There is then a gap in the white flags at the file load screen and the third is missing so I guess that makes it even more so.--SinnohMasterGalaxy (talk) 18:43, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Propeller Mushroom and Penguin Suit
Does they only appear in Toad Houses, or can you find them now in levels? 11:30, 24 November 2012 (EST)
 * They appear in Boost Rush Mode, at least the Penguin Suit does, in ? Blocks.

Orange links
There is one for Propeller Cheep-Cheep.


 * Orange links are just red links that you've previously clicked on, like how blue links turn into purple links on some wikis (though not on this one, apparently). I assume that's what you're referring to, anyway. -- 1337star (Mailbox SP) 11:52, 4 December 2012 (EST)

No, I mean a blank article.

Blue and Red Baby Yoshi eggs in the final game?
Instead of picking them up on the map, are there any levels that allow you earn Balloon Baby Yoshis and Bubble Baby Yoshis from blocks? (where they hatch out of their eggs) BooDestroyer (talk) 13:10, 15 December 2012 (EST)

If i understand you're question, then i got the answer. You have to pick a Balloon/Bubble Baby Yoshi from the world map to play more than 1 level with the Balloon/Bubble Baby Yoshi. If you pick a Baby Yoshi from a ? block, it won't come with you. 13:27, 16 December 2012 (EST)

Conveyor Amps
a question: The Conveyor Amps are the Bowser's faces that conduct electricity each other in the Red-Hot Elevator level?. please that I will create his article. - Marioyoshi (Talk) 16:25, 17 December 2012 (EST)

game manual quote

 * where is proof that an Eep-cheep is called an Eep Cheep. the game manual, i know. but why say it's NEW name in a game manual. (I don't own this game yet). May someone write the quote on this discussion page or the Eep-Cheep discussion page itself. --86.148.118.231 (talk)

Acorn Kingdom
People say this took place in the Mushroom Kingdom, Doesn't the mushroom Kingdom go to the left of Peach's Castle. Also I'm pretty sure that it was said "... and Mario and co. were flung into the Acorn Kingdom!..." I remember this quote. So isn't it actually the Acorn Knigdom, I mean they even have Acorn Power-ups, so i'll add it. if i could that is. 86.148.118.231 12:09, 21 December 2012 (EST)
 * No such quote exists. The only "Acorn Kingdom" that comes up is the one from Sonic the Hedgehog. And the website says "and the heroes have been cast out to the furthest reaches of the Mushroom Kingdom." DonnyKD (talk) 16:35, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Ok. I guess Peach's Castle is in the centre of the Mushroom Kingdom then. 86.148.118.231 06:54, 22 December 2012 (EST)

Balloon Goombas and Conveyor Amps
Someone put these enemies on the new enemies section. What exactly are these enemies? I don't think I have seen any of these enemies in the game unless I missed them. Can anyone confirm seeing these enemies or I'm gonna have to remove them. Unless the Conveyor Amps are the ones in Peach's Castle with the Bowser Faces then I agree on it being a new enemy. But is that its official name? Smasher345 10:49, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Balloon Goombas yes exist, are found in the level Skyward Stalk from Sparkling Waters, I'll upload some screenshots to prove it, the Conveyor Amps are the Bowser Faces of Peach Castle, Marioyoshi (Talk) 11:31, 26 December 2012 (EST)

here it is, this image proves that Balloon Goombas do exist in the game. Marioyoshi (Talk) 11:01, 26 December 2012 (EST)

Yeah I see the Balloon Goombas, they do exist. I have the game but given that they only appear in one secret level I didn't even remember them. I kind of knew that the Conveyor Amps were the Bowser faces but the name kind of confused me. Is that even they're official name? Smasher345 11:28, 26 December 2012 (EST)

Good, simply the enemies themselves are new but nobody has been able to confirm their names, so they are cojeturales names until someone confirmed their true names, so for now not delete ok?. Marioyoshi (Talk)

Secret Level Icon
Can anyone rip/take a picture of the icons used for the secret levels, like the Blooper icon or the Fliprus one? DonnyKD (talk) 00:31, 24 December 2012 (EST)

Mega Pokey not a new enemy
at least in Mario Kart Wii a Mega Pokey appeared in a competition, appeared in the Thwomp Desert and Mario was to defeat him with Green Shells. Marioyoshi (Talk)

Deep Cheeps
I know that Deep Cheeps have artwork for this game, however I cleared the story mode 100% and I don't ever recall seeing a deep cheep in the game at all. I checked all the underwater levels in the game and I still can't find deep cheeps. Anyone else who has the game knows if deep cheeps appear in the game? Smasher345 18:35, 1 January 2012 (EST)
 * They're in Swim for Your Life!. DonnyKD (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2013 (EST)
 * I just checked that level right now not a single one appears, only cheep cheeps, spiky cheep cheeps, the cheep chomp and urchins appear. Smasher345 18:51, 1 January 2012 (EST)

I just literally checked every possible level that would have include underwater enemies and I still couldn't find Deep Cheeps. My guess is that they may have been taken out of the game at the last second similar to the blue and pink baby Yoshi eggs despite all three having artwork for the game. Smasher345 08:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Deep Cheeps are beta-elements. It is like how New Super Mario Bros. Wii has artwork of Red Yoshi but they were never used in the game. Both the Magenta/Blue Baby Yoshi Eggs and Deep-Cheeps were removed. Looking from this list it doesn't have Deep-Cheeps any where and IGN is a good source.

i think they are in the second level of sparkling waters. 86.148.182.78 13:36, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Oh. I didn't notice this and just asked about the same thing on the Deep Cheep Talk Page. Anyway, they're not in Sparkling Waters-2. Aokage (talk) 13:59, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Well since they are most likely beta elements, I'm guessing we're going to have to remove them from the article unless they appear outside of story mode and possibly be in Challenge mode but I doubt it. Smasher345 14:58, 2 January 2012 (EST)

I have a question and by chance not be in the Enemy Course of Cheep Cheeps? is just a doubt that it is possible, also remember that enemies change courses please play them 3 times and confirm, otherwise, Nintendo confirmed DLC for this game so that maybe come in the DLC. Marioyoshi (Talk)

in the Coin Courses there are none left only the challenges but I doubt it. Marioyoshi (Talk)

i swear that i came across a Deep-Cheep somewhere whilst playing the game. and have you checked Acorn Plains- Blooper. they could be there.86.148.182.78 08:04, 3 January 2013 (EST)

sure? but where he found, Describe at least the place and I search Marioyoshi (Talk)

what? you are talking gibberish. is it "are you sure? but where are they found, at least describe the place and ill search." if so, i'm up to sparkling waters (i got my Wii U for christmas and much prefer Nintendo Land, and i hardly have time to play it.) so before or during it, sorry if that doesn't help.86.148.182.78 16:09, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Missing word in Gameplay section
The article says "The new of the game are that". Can someone fix this and make it make sense?Ultimate (talk) 19:11, 3 January 2013 (EST)
 * Fixed

Glitch?
In Firefall Cliffs (Peach's Castle-4) there is a brick block that will soon be destroyed by a huge fireball. It is just after the Green Coin ring. However, you can use the shell nearby and, with good timing, throw it at the brick. It will become a solid Used Block, 'protected' by the fireball. Should I count this as a glitch?

World Map
Will you please change the numbers? Sparkling Waters and Frosted Glacier can be skipped for each other. It should be: Burglar King (talk) 19:16, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
 * World 1: Acorn Plains: A grassy world with plenty of shrubs, slanted mountains, and the Acorn Tree.
 * World 2: Layer-Cake Desert: A desert world with various desserts, such as melting ice creams, giant cakes, and a sea of sand with Moai-like statues.
 * World 3a: Sparkling Waters: A tropical world with multiple islands, bubbling water geysers, and a sunken ship. This world can be entirely skipped for Frosted Glacier.
 * World 3b: Frosted Glacier: A snowy world that takes place at night filled with stars and constellations. This world can be entirely skipped for Sparkling Waters.
 * World 4: Soda Jungle: A rainforest-esque world similar to the Forest of Illusion, with giant enemies and blocks, similar to Big Island.
 * World 5: Rock-Candy Mines: A mountainous world with tall, pillar like mountains. A cloud train seems to separate this world from the next world.
 * World 6: Meringue Clouds: A sky world resembling the foreground of levels in World 7 from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.
 * World 7: Peach's Castle: A grassland area, similar to World 1 from the previous New Super Mario Bros. games, containing mushroom hills and the castle of the princess. It has been taken over by the Koopa Troop and is slowly transformed into Bowser's image until eventually being surrounded by a tornado. By the time the player reaches the castle grounds, it has been transformed into a lava-based area. Princess Peach's castle remains mostly unchanged on the outside (the flags now have Bowser's symbol on them) but on the inside it is similar to Bowser's Castle from previous installments.
 * World 8: Superstar Road: A secret world unlocked after beating Bowser's final battle. Its levels must be unlocked with the Star Coins collected from all the levels of previous worlds.
 * Secret Island: A small area between Acorn Plains and Sparkling Waters that houses a Records Toad House. It must be unlocked as the same way as Superstar Road.
 * Coin Courses: A multiplayer exclusive world found in Coin Battle.
 * Just because a World can be skipped doesn't change the World's name. If otherwise officially named, we should leave it as it is.
 * 19:29, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

The game officially considers Sparkling Water as World 3 and Frosted Glacier as World 4. There are several ways to see this in-game: 1. The flags in the file select screen. 2. Menu screens such as the warp pipe cannon and star coin collection screen has Sparkling Waters as the third world to be selected and Frosted Glacier as the fourth world to be selected. 3. Superstar Road-3 is unlocked by collecting all star coins in Sparkling Waters while Superstar Road-4 is unlocked by collecting all star coins in Frosted Glacier. Smasher345 20:41, 24 April 2013 (EST)

Font
I ripped the font from New Super Mario Bros. U, with letters. It also includes the numbers from the beta and final versions. --New Supermatt Bros. (talk) 00:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Merge
I have said this before, and I'll say it again. This game is a prototype of New Super Mario Bros. Mii. NSMBM and this game ARE THE SAME GAME. The pages should be merged ASAP.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
 * They are most certainly NOT the same game, despite looking similar. New Super Mario Bros. Mii was a tech-demo for the Wii U. It's the same reason we don't merge Balloon Trip into Yoshi Touch & Go.
 * Dude, they TOTALLY are. I even have proof. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29838--Thejfh1999 (talk) 16:16, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * The article says that NSMBU is "based on" NSMBM. That does not mean they are the same game. It means that elements from NSMBM made it into NSMBU. Baby Luigi is correct. 16:21, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * I was about to type a response but I got ninja'd :P 16:26, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * Man, just think about it. They have the same graphics, same engine, same level design, what more?--Thejfh1999 (talk) 21:45, 1 November 2013 (EDT)


 * Same graphics, same engine and same level design? So if you were to disregard the valid points provided by Baby Luigi and Mario4Ever and stick with this argument as the only reason to merge the two articles, then I can see you proposing to merge the first three Donkey Kong Country games into one, because they have the "same graphics, same engine and same level design".


 * 21:54, 1 November 2013 (EDT)
 * And to add on to that, why not merge all the New Super Mario Bros. rehashes into one? Tech demos deserve separate articles. The difference between a tech demo and a normal game is that a tech demo usually shows off simply a console's capabilities at a demonstration while games are commercial products that may have evolved from a tech demo. Don't confuse the two. 14:48, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
 * While we're at it, let's merge the Mario Baseball games too. -- 15:09, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
 * Dude, the Baseball games have different engines. And for God's sake, the levels are the exact same. I even got this directly from the article: "The E3 2011 demo will be a full-fledged game that will be officially revealed at E3 2012." Look it up.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 18:06, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
 * They are most certainly NOT the same game, despite looking similar. New Super Mario Bros. Mii was a tech-demo for the Wii U. It's the same reason we don't merge Balloon Trip into Yoshi Touch & Go. The article says that NSMBU is "based on" NSMBM. That does not mean they are the same game. It means that elements from NSMBM made it into NSMBU. Tech demos deserve separate articles. The difference between a tech demo and a normal game is that a tech demo usually shows off simply a console's capabilities at a demonstration while games are commercial products that may have evolved from a tech demo. Don't confuse the two.


 * Must I start copy-pasting now until you consider our points? http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/m/a/mariofacepalmplz.gif 00:11, 3 November 2013 (EDT)
 * Seriously. That's your rebuttal. All I'm asking is for you to CONSIDER they are the same game.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 11:46, 3 November 2013 (EST)


 * Except that they aren't. This game has officially been stated to be based upon New Super Mario Bros. Mii, not that the demo was made into this game.


 * -Toa 95 (talk)
 * Thejfh1999, consider Balloon Trip and Yoshi Touch & Go. Same engine but different articles because one is a tech demo while another is a commercially released game. It also has more features. Consider this analogy: Balloon Trip::Yoshi Touch & Go; New Super Mario Bros. Mii::New Super Mario Bros. U. 12:26, 3 November 2013 (EST)
 * I get your point Lefty. And thanks Toa for the proof. I give up. No merge then. GG.--Thejfh1999 (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2013 (EST)