Talk:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon

Sand in mansion?
I've heard that there's sand in the mansion. Were did I hear that? Here. "This is amazing!!! There's sand in a mansion? Weird but looks amazing!!!"-Photobrick --Holyromanemperortatan 13:18, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

You can visit through various mansions according to Reggie Fils-Aime, so it may be a different mansion. It's a tomb-like mansion with mummified ghosts. --Lounge 13:21, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
 * Ok thanks!--Holyromanemperortatan 13:27, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Question
Now that there is going to be a sequel, does that mean we can make a Luigi's Mansion (series) page in the future? 16:30, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

If a series page was to be made, doesn't Super Mario Galaxy need one too? (If it hasn't already been made.)

Another thing, I wasn't able to watch the conference, but when was E. Gadd confirmed?


 * He's in the screenshots, if that's not confirmation for ya. Zenox9120 17:49, 7 June 2011 (EDT)


 * D'oh, I can't believe I overlooked that, lol.

Super Mario Galaxy is apart of the Super Mario series. 18:13, 7 June 2011 (EDT)


 * Well, I guess a Luigi's Mansion series page could be created, as there is a Mario Baseball (series) page, with only two titles in it.
 * Actually, that sounds like a good idea. DK Fan


 * If we were to create, wait for the game to be released, due to the fact Gamefreak75 just deleted it. 19:28, 7 June 2011 (EDT)


 * Yeah, just wait for its release so it'd be easier to combine it and also for the fact that we have little info on Luigi's Mansion 2. --

Portrait ghost replacement?
The Orange ghost with the big head seems to be a Replacement for the Portrait Ghosts. Here's why: - It has a heart like the portrait ghosts. - It had over 60 hp. A regular ghost with 60 hp would be unlikely. - It had a specific attack pattern and it could only be vacuumed while its heart was exposed. It's gotta be a Boss of some sort.

I think the similarities should be noted somewhere in the article... User:MarioMaster720

Or, Nintendo decided that ghosts will have more HP now and the portrait ghosts have more health.

Yay!
The sequel to Luigi's Mansion is finally here!!!..............NOT THAT I'M EXCITED AT ALL :P Although I'm happy for the people who have been waiting for it. -- SuperYoshiBros 12:27, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

This should be moved to the forums, it has nothing to do with improving the article. -'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor

100% BOSS!
The Orange ghost with a big head is 100% a boss. Here's why: - It had 100 hp. - It had a heart like the portrait ghosts (which were mini-bosses) - It had a specific attack pattern and it could only be vacuumed when its heart was exposed. - I had a cinematic entrance when discovered (like the major bosses) - It prevented Luigi from going up the stairs and pushed him back presumably because Luigi needed to complete a task before battling it. (like King Boo and the Boolussus boo) - When it was captured, The mission ended instantly (like bosses in general) - E. Gadd Also called it a "Telekinetic Ghost".

Here's proof: [] This SHOULD BE MENTIONED! Atleast the "Telekinetic Ghost" part. Also note that 4 new room names are confirmed in that vid. "Foyer", "Common Hall", "Lab" and "Library". User:MarioMaster720
 * Interesting... Yes, we should add some info to it. Maybe a whole article for this Telekinectic "Telekinetic Ghost" thing, but we should wait a bit until we get final names and some artwork, maybe. -- 10:01, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

It could be placed in the trivia for now and as i said, The fact that the orange ghost is a boss should also be mentioned because it has all the characteristics for a boss. User:MarioMaster720


 * That doesn't belong in the trivia, and maybe it's not a boss. Maybe it's a regular strong enemy and bosses have a lot more HP.

I wrote that it's "Boss-like" not a boss. I didn't add it to the trivia User:MarioMaster720

Boos?
Since when have Boos been confirmed?

Well, King Boo has been confirmed, and since he is a Boo, there will be at least one Boo in the game. MarioComix 19:06, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

Technically, King Boo could be the only boo in the game. P.S. Hey MQM, it's me OY!!

Actually, I meant normal Boos, not Boos in general, but I see what you mean.

Release Date
I think Gamestop had it as August 2011 for North America.
 * GameStop isn't always right.
 * E3 said it will be released in 2012.

-  Conan  Shinichi!    21:34, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

it will be released Q1 of 2012. The gamestop roster says January 3rd, that may be a more accurate date however we do know it will be come out in the first few months of 2012

It is now past the first quarter of 2012,so I guess that Q1 doesn't belong on the page.;) -RosalinaSilverCrown

"Dark Pink/Red Version of the orange boss-like ghost, found in the study" ==

Where?? I've seen the trailer a lot of times and I have never seen it. Does another video exist??? Even in the demo you can't access the study. There isn't even a source! Is this true or not??? User:MarioMaster720


 * The trailer is not the only source that exists. There was a playable demo at E3 as well, and images and other stuff.

I already said that you can´t access the study in the E3 Demo( I have played it) and none of the gallery pictures show it. I was asking if there existed a ghost like that and why there wasn´t any source. User:MarioMaster720

Why won't anyone answer. DOES THE GHOST EXIST OR NOT! It doesn't even have a source so tell me if I can delete it! User:MarioMaster720

No, they're the same ghosts. No source confirms that there are two of these ghosts. --Spongeman537 21:28, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

I meant that there doesn't exist a Dark Pink/Red version of the orange ghost. No one has stated a source nor proof so it should be deleted! User:MarioMaster720

I think that whoever put this here,meant the red ghost with 30 HP. Maybe they saw it in a trailer somewhere out there. Just a thought. --RosalinaSilverCrown 09:41, 23 May 2012 (EDT)==

GB Horror Replaced?
Does anybody know if the Game Boy Horror from the 1st game is upgraded to,say, a DS Horror? Shadow Master 13:58, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

It's going to be replaced by something called the "Double Scream". :) Mo'bosses


 * I think it's called a "Duel Scream".


 * 22:41, 2 February 2013 (EST)

BRAND NEW TRAILER!!!
Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dXdpGm_Foc&feature=channel_video_title This shows a lot of interesting things that should be added at once! User:MarioMaster720

Forget it. I added the new stuff and the Source. It's good to know more information. I also crated a whole Mansions section since the new trailer showed some new ones. (Unless they're all the same mansion in different weather, but the former is most likely) User:MarioMaster720

Captions help
As you maybe know from above topic, the is a trailer that has some texts in japanese. I want to upload this trailer to the wiki, but I want to include the translations as well. Does anyone there speak japanese and can help me with the captions? Off-topic. There're also two footages for SM3DL and PM3DS, but they have japanese speech instead of text.

Unnamed black ghost with 4(?) HP
Should we delete this from the "Ghosts" section? It has no appearance in the trailer that's it's source leads to. --Spongeman537 17:00, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Never mind, I found it in the Screenshots section. --Spongeman537 17:02, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

I can't see it... Can you post the link to the picture? User:MarioMaster720



Just in case you still haven't seen it. --Spongeman537 09:04, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

If you wanna see it just type lm02 scrn 3 on google --User: Nintendo master 88

Thanks! I see it now :) Although I highly doubt that it's original hp is 4. Luigi probably tried to suck it up before, nut couldn't suck it up in one go. Nevermind, Thanks for showing me the picture ;) User:MarioMaster720

Secret Pocket
The room labeled as "A secret Room behind teared wallpaper with gold bars and a pipe that Luigi can look into to see the Dining Room" is actually named the Secret Pocket according to this video at 9:19. --Spongeman537 20:48, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

First Quarter
Luigi's Mansion 2 was confirmed that it will be released in the First Quarter of 2012, someone needs to stop deleting that from the release date.

Maybe it's missing the reference that validates the claim that it will be released in the First Quarter of 2012? MarioComix 20:48, 17 November 2011 (EST)

The sources state it someone changes it for America and Japan but keeps it for Europe yet the date for Europe has no source to it.

The only information on the release date right now is that it will be released sometime in 2012. ~♪RosalinaSilverCrown♪

hi guys this game was conformed by Nintendo to be released holiday 2012--Kirbyandluigi 19:23, 20 July 2012 (EDT)Kirbyandluigi

Box Art from IGN
IGN shows the boxart of Luigi's Mansion 2 (but it's not the final - Source). EDIT: Sorry, forgot to the add the link the source. DigiPen92 14:12, 21 November 2011 (EST)

Not official. Donaldthescotishtwin

Mario
This has been bugging me for a while now. The site says that Mario is in the game but WHERE??? I've seen all the trailers/videos and I can't hear or see "Mario" anywhere. I want a link to the proof that Mario is in the game quickly or I'll delete Mario from the page! User:MarioMaster720


 * In the trailer he yells "MAAARIO!!", So mario has something to do in that game - ItsameMario 22:45, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

When does he yell mario? I just want to know since it is VERY possible that I didn't pay attention. ~♪RosalinaSilverCrown♪
 * Kidnapped again. Lost Mini Star09
 * I watched the trailer and Luigi did not yell Mario. wwjdbears

What is the name of the website Nintendo Master 88

SORRRRRRRRRRRRY!!!
I think I accidently deleted everything(enemies down)off the article. If someone could please fix or tell me how to put things like media on it,then i would be happy to fix it myself!P.S.I would also be happy to explain what went down on my talk page! --RosalinaSilverCrown 22:51, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Go to the top of the page and click "history" then look for your edit and click it, then click the edit you want to revert it back to, then click "undo".

Story?
In this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbgTYe9W-Kc&feature=related) E. Gadd says something about "finding the next Dark Moon piece" so this might have the "Dark Moon" subtitle make more sense. So the story might be, the Dark Moon was destroyed (maybe by King Boo?) and Luigi has to piece it back together.
 * From another bit of text Gadd says, it would seem that ghosts are roaming free because the Dark Moon was broken. But we can't put anything until it's confirmed. Koopalmier 21:35, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

Why so many red links?
Sorry if there's something I'm missing, because I'm new... but why is there so many red links? Because things like Dark Moon have been edited to be a link, but the page doesn't exist, so it is red and looks a bit, well... so sorry if I'm being stupid, I'm just trying to be helpful. --FunkyWaffle 13:38, 27 June 2012 (EDT)

THe red links mean the page hasn't been created. The blue links those are pages. Usually we don't use links for things that don't really need pages. 13:43, 27 June 2012 (EDT)

Thank you for the answer, but I just think since there isn't much we know about the pages that are red, I don't think they should be linked for now, since they are red and don't look good. I don't think they should be created either, because they would just be stubs. Anyway, again, sorry if I'm being stupid. --FunkyWaffle 13:52, 27 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Red links are useful here because they alert editors to subjects that need articles once sufficient information on those subjects is available.

Oh OK, thanks. --FunkyWaffle 12:41, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

King Boo
Where's the source for King Boo being the final boss? 17:57, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

Original portrait ghosts to return?
I remember there being a spooky-esque ghost dog in the e3 2012 trailer...does that mean that in addition to the new ghosts, the originals will return?Shadow Master 16:54, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

We don't know...YET. Some ghosts may return, but we shouldn't add anything we're not sure about. --LuigiBlubber (talk)

Returning ghosts?
Is it possible that the portrait ghosts from LM1are returning, since a ghost dog that looks like spooky is there? Well, yes it is POSSIBLE but we still don't know for sure. We shouldn't add stuff like that to the article until we know for sure. Make sure sign your edits with a signature. --LuigiBlubber (talk)

Release Date AGAIN?
We've gotta find out the official release date does anybody know it? --CRode 5:37, 1 August 2012 (EDT) Theres no official release date yet.

Source problem
I think there is something wrong with the 10th source (the one referencing Toad). It leads to a Health and Fitness article. I'm sure that's not right, but I don't know what the original website was for that so can someone look into that?

More Info
So yesterday I was on "SpillExpo" in Norway where I played the Demo version of this, and I discovered tons of information. The demos I played were This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvpZRbV0EuA And This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9sGm3vKx7k

In the first mansion, there was nothing new EXCEPT for the fact that I discovered something that few others did. At 05:24 in the first video, in the "Mudroom" people have probably noticed a sealed door on the right. However what many people missed is that you can return to that room after you get the strobe light and unlock the door using it. The door leads you to a area called "Mudroom Exterior" and there you find a red gemstone called a "New Amethyst". Although the game never shows its value/purpose E. Gadd calls you right after you get it and tells you only that it's very valuable. I added this into the article and sadly, I forgot to film it so the only source is my honest word (but you can see the thing you're supposed to flash at with the strobe in the video at 05:24 at the far right)

On the other mansion however, I discovered many things. I discovered 7 NEW ROOMS AND AREAS! Unlike these two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9sGm3vKx7k, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIerClUJNPQ I actually found out how to move on. You had to shine the rainbow light at the wall (the wall BARELY shown at the end of the second video) to reveal a door which leads to many areas. First the door leads to the Fishing Hut (where you find Toad). When you meet him the floor breaks (The scene shown in the E3 2012 Trailer) and you get to access many new areas. I could go into detail how you would progress forward through them, but I'll instead simply list the names of the rooms/areas in the order in which you visit them:

Ice Cave, Ice Hall, Mine Tunnel, Mirror Hall, Crystal Pond and Elevator Landing. The objective after you meet Toad is to go to the Elevator and get up above ground. When you do get to the elevator, it brings you back to the Chalet where you have to face off against more ghosts and when you suck them all up the mission is over.

Also very notable is that in the Elevator Landing, I found a "New Sapphire" by vacuuming a certain pile of snow there. Again it has no apparent use but again E. Gadd contacted me to tell about how valuable it is. Although like I said I forgot to videotape it and therefore have no "media" source I have added these things into the article and I hope that you don't take it down as this is all true and accurate information. I would NEVER lie about this :) User:MarioMaster720

Poltergust 5000
I believe that the name of Luigi's weapon went directly from Poltergust 3000 to 5000 because there already was the Poltergust 4000. I doubt this will ever be confirmed, but still I think it's worth mentioning as a funny reference to Mario Kart DS. What you think? Is this theory believeable enough to be mentioned?--Kombatgod (talk) 22:39, 13 December 2012 (EST)

Gourmet Ghost
I added Gourmet ghost to the list as i found it's name, but i was changed to fat yellow ghost... Why? Can i change it back, it is it's name so it should be said. 86.148.118.231 (talk)


 * Are you able to provide a source for the info?


 * 08:03, 20 December 2012 (EST)

Yes, but i don't know how to provide it, sadly but, i do know it's name and i says unnamed, which it is not, so i should change it.
 * Just tell us where do you got your source ? 13:26, 20 December 2012 (EST)

In an interview. sorry if not the best source. it was an interview about the game.

Purple Boos?
I didn't see any purple boos with yellow eyes during the trailers or any images. Can some one give me proof that these ARE in the game. even if they were and i didn't see them. shouldn't we change there names to dark boo? (dark boos are purple boos with yellow eyes)

ok, I think i saw them in a trailer or scrennshot after seeing this on the wiki. I was hard to spot i added Dark boo in brackets by it, but it was deleted. I have not seen a dark boo elsewhere other than Fantendo, so it is probably a fan name.

no wait, these boos are official in Super paper mario i think... YOU MAY CHANGE IT IF YOU WANT TO!

actully. dark boos were not made up in fantendo. there real. you may look it up on this wiki if you want to.

Black Ghost with at least 4 HP
I don't think the black ghost with the 4 HP actually exists. I saw the screenshot on IGN, but whenever Luigi flashes a ghost with his strobe light, it changes color. For example, in the screenshot, the green ghost turns white. Also, if it's a new ghost, why does it look like the unnamed pink ghost so much? I think the black ghost is just the pink ghost flashed by the strobe light.--MarioMaster2011 (talk) 01:55, 21 December 2012 (EST)

The "dark Boo" subject
Although it looks like a Dark boo from some Mario RPGS (not Super MARIO RPG though), is it official that it is one. They have blue tongues.
 * i wrote Dark boo by it, but it got deleted, i don't think they are dark boos. Also "Unnamed purple boo with yellow eyes" sounds more realistic than Dark Boo. Although it has been seen,Dark Boo sound like a joke. I think we should keep it for a little longer. until further notice.

good point.

Thanks.

Purple Boo with yellow eyes = Dark Boo. --Spookum (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2012 (EST)

Uh, does anyone have any proof that there are Dark Boos in the game? Because I haven't seen one yet. DK Fan

Spookum, I changed it back to "Unamed purple boo with yellow eyes". Now i don't want to start an arguement. we just can't be 100 percent on this. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 09:26, 1 January 2013 (EST)

Scans

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First one just involve King Boo and the Dark Moon.

They don't work. 109.155.4.117 15:01, 20 January 2013 (EST)

When i press them they work. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2013 (EST)

It's in Japanese or Chinese user:Aliman101

Multiplayer
it has been shown on Gamexpalin, some new infinite HPed ghost and MULTIPLAYER, a dark blue luigi, and full green clothed luigi, and purple/magenta luigi and a rusty orange luigi are the four playable characters. 109.155.4.117 14:51, 24 January 2013 (EST)

4th Mansion
According to the latest Gameinformer magazine, there is a 4th mansion called Haunted Towers. It's where the Venus Flytraps and the greenhouse rooms are.--MarioMaster2011 (talk) 19:04, 27 January 2013 (EST)

Cool, thanks, if only we could add it. did you read the multiplayer i wrote? 109.155.9.22 12:32, 28 January 2013 (EST)


 * Yes, but did you read the 4th Mansion I wrote? I will give you three extra details: 1. The screenshots of Haunted Towers' rooms actually have names instead of ScareScraper, which only has letters as the rooms. 2. They have screenshots for it. Look at the one where Luigi is in the greenhouse or the one where Luigi flashes his strobe light on a flower to get a key. 3. Gameinformer stated that Haunted Towers and ScareScraper (Multiplayer) are two very different things. Also you must be confusing Gameinformer with Gamexplain, which are also two very different things.--MarioMaster2011 (talk) 19:46, 28 January 2013 (EST)

No, it was Gamexplain. 86.147.117.255 12:46, 30 January 2013 (EST)


 * Yes, but gameinformer made an article about it in their magazine. Also, I'm right, because now it has been confirmed.--MarioMaster2011 (talk) 11:38, 22 February 2013 (EST)

yellow-green ghost with 398 hp??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is no proof about the yellow-green ghost with 398 HP gimme proof plz
 * We will have to see about that. Since the user who added the line about this ghost didn't cite the source for the information, then I think it is safe to remove it, as is noted on the template on top of the page. Also, please, next time create an understandable header, without this many question marks and exclamation points. ---

Actually you can see It on the multiplayer trailer so it's only a multiplayer only ghost --Donaldthescotishtwin
 * But, is it confirmed that it has "at least 398 HP"? That seems unlikely. ---

Please take a careful look at this trailer. --- Newzzz
 * Newzzz, you could have linked to this video, to show other users that the information you added was confirmed. Bear that in mind, because the template on the page clearly states that uncited contributions can be removed. ---

Many apologies. --- Newzzz

I have added the needed reference link for the "ghost with 398 HP" --- Newzzz
 * I'm sorry, but don't make these titles so long. Zakor1138 (talk) 15:57, 29 January 2013 (EST)

It seems very similar to green ghost and gold ghost so it must be a subspecies aliman101

Video/picture proof of a king boos mansion
Can somebody please gimme proof about king boos mansion ? Aliman101

There is a picture of it in the gallery ( this article's gallery) you can just see the boos, but the ship makes me think: water world/mansion, instead of king Boos lair. remember, it say assumed or something like that. 81.135.64.139 09:13, 3 February 2013 (EST)

Ignore the "water world/mansion" part. it looks like an airship wreck, so maybe it king boo's mansion, as bowser's world has airships, so why can't king boo's mansion have a ghost (air)-ship in his "world". 81.135.64.139 09:17, 3 February 2013 (EST)

I posted this 1 day before they posted the pictur Aliman101

King Boo's mansion
anyone else notice that this MUST be his mansion for two reasons:

1: there is a crown shaped window on the top of the main building, and who in this game wears a crown...? ("Princess Toadstool/Peach!", "Me: NO KING BOO!"

2: he has a ghost (air)-ship out on the left, and bowser has airships, so king boo must have ghost ships. this could also be a reference to super Mario World (the final world had a ghost ship (as the entrance in SMW)).

so i see that it may not be his (false final boss's mansion (pretending to be king boo), then the real king boo in a better, less-weird-looking mansion) but i'm pretty sure it is, just analysing, so we may want to add this to the article at some point (we most likely won't unless in the "reference to past games" part). 86.147.117.255 15:55, 5 February 2013 (EST)

guess we have to wate until march Aliman101

there are three crown shape windows Nintendo Master 88

So it does... i guess it proves it almost even more. I mean, who would rub in they are a monarchy/wear a crown, and LIVE IN A GHOST/HAUNTED MANSION. 86.147.117.255 14:43, 6 February 2013 (EST)

If you look closesly there is a tree on the right but it's roots are coming from underneath the mansion and are suspended in air as if the mansion itself is floating... perhaps it is a sky mansion and that explains why there is an airship? -Guest

Water-themed mansion?
Exactly where is this supposedly called 'flooded mansion'? I would think that it is just the same snow-themed mansion. Please bring me evidence about the water-themed mansion. Many apologies if I assumed wrong. --Newzzz

I think we need proof too Aliman101

Aliman101 sign your comments by typing four of these: ~ below your comment. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 11:28, 15 February 2013 (EST)

Unnamed purple boo with yellow eyes
um. . . the unnamed purple boo with yellow eyes (who some think is dark boo) is GONE from the list. as shown in the above comments, there has been sightings, so shouldn't it be there? 86.148.116.161 10:34, 16 February 2013 (EST)

I've been following this game since the day it was announced and i'v never seen any Dark Boo's no one gave any proof either, Donaldthescotishtwin

possibly another boss
I may have found another boss in the Old Clockworks mansion it appears to have bulgy ears in one of the demos nintendo master 88 174.3.52.158 20:55, 18 February 2013 (EST)

Intresting...Can you give us a link to video where you found it? Kingfawful4321 (talk) 08:42, 20 February 2013 (EST)

I think it's this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbgTYe9W-Kc&list=HL1339514626&feature=mh_lolz at 1:36 a strange 'horned' ghost flys out the clock tower then away. Also if you look at the newest video where Miyamoto is discussing it and the bosses he talks about haunted staircases, then it shows Luigi in what looks like a platform in the tree of the forest mansion walking up some stairs then being knocked off, if you examine closely the stairs change and the two torches either side appear to turn into eyes. Possibly the staircase is the boss or part of the boss of that mansion? (I hope not, I mean a boss staircase? Come on Nintendo...) -Guest

I have the feeling that that the staircase is a sub boss or just a obstacle. But the thing with the horns looks like it's just a normal ghost. Kingfawful4321 (talk) 20:39, 20 February 2013 (EST)

Dark Moon
hi guys, i heard that the Dark Moon was a satellite. is this true, as i'm writing a non-cannon backstory of King Boo and got to Dark Moon, i think it's a satellite as i remember hearing this. if you guys could just confirm this.Thanks. 86.147.224.87 05:30, 21 February 2013 (EST)

Where did you hear that? Kingfawful4321 (talk) 14:20, 22 February 2013 (EST)

um... i only remember hearing this, and asked for a confirmation, in case i was wrong, but i think it was from an OLD Gamexplain Dark Moon discussion video after André (Gamexplain's main man) got to play i think 30 minutes of the game. If you want, watch all of the discussions and tell me. If any one knows, can they confirm (or de-confirm) it, please. Thank you. 86.147.224.87 16:32, 22 February 2013 (EST)

I don't remamber them saying anything about satellites. Also, When your done, Can you give me a link to the non-cannon backstory? It sounds cool. :) Kingfawful4321 (talk) 18:27, 22 February 2013 (EST)