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Blurry images
Images on this wiki are showing up really blurry and pixelated to me, as if they're all really bad JPG images, but just the thumbnails. Why is this happening? It's been like this for many months now. Shadow2 (talk) 23:49, 1 December 2018 (EST)
 * They look fine on my end (and they are JPGs, anyway). Are you zoomed in or out? Sometimes that causes images to appear jagged. 00:24, 2 December 2018 (EST)
 * That's what I thought at first, but I'm not. I tried zooming in and out a bunch and nothing changed, but to confirm they are blurred when I'm at 100% zoom. Shadow2 (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Add a New Pages template to the main page
There is one thing that everyone sees when they enter the MarioWiki: The main page. The page is organized and includes trivia, the best articles on the site, news etc. However, under the Did You Know? template there is a large amount of empty space, a perfect place for a new template. The template that I am proposing is a template that, whenever a new page is created, the template will be updated containing a short 1-3 sentence paragraph summarizing the start of the page, preferably took directly from the page. The template would be called. This idea was approved by Porplemontage. This template would be a auto-comfimed only regularly updated template like the template where, whenever a new page is published, a brief summery with a link to the article will be added as the top bullet, as shown above. The rules of this template would be the following:
 * When a new page is published, a brief 1-3 sentence paragraph summarizing the start of the page, preferably took directly from the start of the page, will be used as a bullet point on the template. (Model A only) The page's main image will be pictured in a maximum 150px image.
 * (Model A only) Even if the latest page does not have an image at the time of release, Model A will still only have one bullet.
 * If an article is deemed too short or is badly written, then the article can be skipped.
 * The template has two bullets in Model B, one in Model A, and whenever a new page is published the article is mention on the first bullet on the top of the template, with the oldest page's bullet point being removed.
 * Every paragraph should end with the code: Read more....
 * The page's name should be linked and bolded.

As mentioned in the rules, there is two models that could work, because, as mentioned by Porplemontage, there is only enough space for either one bullet and an image, or two bullets with no image. Here is an example of how both models would look like:

Model A:

Safe Buster (pictured) is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. '''Read more...

Model B:
 * Safe Buster (pictured) is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. '''Read more...
 * Bomb Sweeper is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on June 15, 1987, and is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a policeman and a character named John Solver attempt to stop a character named Dynamite Jack, who plants bombs underground town. Read more...

In my opinion, Model B is better, as while images are nice, not all pages immediately has an image when created, and two bullets can encourage more activity improving new pages than with just a single bullet. Still, this template could not only fill in space on the Main Page, but it could also encourage the creation of pages and the improvement of said pages.

EDIT:Per Alex95's suggestion, could also work, although in my opinion having a 1-3 sentence paragraph would better help readers get interested with the page than just the edit log, however it is still a viable option, so adding  as option C. (As this Model would update automatically none of the other rules apply) This Model would look like this:

Proposer: Deadline: January 24, 2019 23:59 GMT

Add the Model B version of the New Pages template (Two bullets and an image)

 * 1) Per Doomhiker.
 * 2) Per all.
 * 3) This might actually make it worth it to check out the main page.
 * 4) My preferred option, per proposal.

Oppose (Do not add a New Pages template in any capacity)

 * 1) I'm not entirely keen on the idea of a trivial feature constantly being edited while we're trying to cover newly released games.
 * 2) It just seems like too much trouble to implement.
 * 3) Per Bazooka Mario's comment below. Too much effort for too little gain. If we really wanted to fill out that empty space, we could just make the "Mario & Nintendo News" section longer or something.
 * 4) Per 7feetunder. Plus, this only benefits desktop viewers, but not mobile viewers (since it would add to the list instead of equaling the other side). I like 7feetunder idea of how we could remove the added space, but we could either just extend a template (though, that still leaves space, but is part of the template too, and maybe not as preferred) or add something that viewers would be interested in (maybe something like the feature media from the DK wiki that is being merge (in the present) with this wiki). These two are just other two possibilities, but 7feetunder's option is both removes the space altogether and is easy to implement.
 * 5) I don't think it's needed nor does it provide much benefits for its price of extra maintenance.
 * 6) While the usefulness exists, it is quite slim, can be seen through a button that's already on the wiki, and isn't pretty by any means. The main page should at least look good.
 * 7) Per all, I think it'd be a bit too difficult to decide when to update, plus the space it would occupy drastically varies in size, at least on my laptop, depending on the length of the Did You Know? and Mario & Nintendo News sections- sometimes it has lots of space, and other times it goes below the 'Shroom box- if the News, Did You Know and this were all long, it wouldn't save space and may then create an issue of more empty space on the left.
 * 8) Per all. While it could have some usefulness, I feel that the extra maintenance would be an issue, along with the fact that the empty space is not the same across browsers.
 * 9) Per all.

Comments
Does it need the "Read more..." if the article is already linked to by name? Also, hey, figured out something that could maybe also work :P

15:32, 10 January 2019 (EST)
 * In my opinion having a 1-3 sentence paragraph would better help readers get interested with the page than just the edit log, and the reason that I added the "Read more..." so that if a user is new they may not know that blue=link so having an obvious link to the page would help attract new readers. 15:41, 10 January 2019 (EST)
 * I'm not sure having part of a behind-the-scenes log on the wiki's main page is a good idea, especially since users can type anything in the summary. 06:42, 11 January 2019 (EST)
 * I feel that using behind-the-scenes logs instead of summaries could end up being confusing for people who are just here to read, while also being way less descriptive. -- 11:09, 11 January 2019 (EST)

So would this have to be updated every time a new page is created? What about when new games are released and articles are constantly being made for its content? -- 11:40, 11 January 2019 (EST)
 * @Waluigi Time it would have to be updated every time a new page is created, even when new games release. It would be the responsibility of the user who made the page, or another user if the user does not do so, to update the template. However, unlike the news and DYK template which require a large amount of effort to maintain, this template would really only need a copy-and-paste of the first few sentences of the page with extra code added and extremely minor adjustments. 14:22, 11 January 2019 (EST)
 * I personally do not think that updating it every single time a new page is created in situations such as that is necessary, as sometimes, multiple articles are created in a span of several minutes, and it does not seem necessary to have to update it every few minutes when it will quickly be updated again (especially if the user is unaware that they have to do it). -- 16:29, 11 January 2019 (EST)
 * @TheFlameChomp I agree, and in one of the rules If an article is deemed too short or is badly written, then the article can be skipped. Perhaps I can modify that rule so it also includes Also, if a large amount of new pages are created in a short time span due to a new game or another major event, the updating of this template can be temporarily set aside until page creation is slowed down to a normal pace. 16:53, 11 January 2019 (EST)

This seems like a lot of maintenance and trouble (via new quality standards that prompts a new discussion) to go through for a small spot on the main page where only a fraction of readers will be pretty invested on. Unlike the other spots, this section isn't going to be updated on a schedule. It'll require constant watch on part of the recent changes. I really don't see the benefit for this for all this trouble aside from general aesthetics of the new page. I think there are other ways we can minimize empty space on the page; this appears to be just padding. 00:28, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Character article infobox discrepancies
Okay, this has been bugging me even more so now. On a certain character article on this wiki that I will not name here, I was kindly trying to tell the respective parties that in terms of appearances, it's in regards to the game installment that they first appeared in. But the other editor begs to differ and says it's in regards to their first/latest appearances overall. Can anyone clarify on this and confirm if the character article infoboxes are mainly in regards to game installments only? --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 13:39, 9 February 2019 (EST)
 * The infoboxes first and latest appearance should be their first/latest appearances overall as those are their first/latest appearance, even if it is not in a game, although articles should also note a thing's first game appearance in an infobox. 13:46, 9 February 2019 (EST)

Easter Egg on the Super Mario Wiki discovered?
I found this a while ago, but decided to mention it today. If you go to the BJAODN section of the Super Mario Wiki, the wiki's logo will change to one that somewhat resembles Wikipedia's, except the logo includes Mario's eyes, nose, and mustache, the letters are replaced with Mario-themed stuff, and the text is written with the old Mario-style letters. See for yourself: https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:BJAODN

This easter egg also appears on every subpage of BJAODN (with the exception of those that feature an edited wiki that stars another character, as is the case of the April Fools 2017 and 2018 subpages) Speaking of April Fools, I believe that the April Fools subpages should have their own category, rather than being part of the Complete "articles", can someone do it if they agree with that? Gold Luigi (talk) 08:13, March 21, 2019 (EDT)

April Fouls Day logo change: Stinky Kong (aka Pink Donkey Kong Jr.) deserves nothing more than to be lacerated by Rambi
Just the facts. Get the hell off my screen, you abomination, and be replaced by Purple Captain Toad, who is so much more enjoyable. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:13, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
 * Bans 22:15, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
 * Prepares the Agent Orange Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:44, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * comes here uninvited Boo! I wanted a Bowsette Wiki, not this nonsence! Gold Luigi (talk) 13:59, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Out or my signature, Stinky Kong! I'll have to wait tomorrow to remove it. -- 14:06, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Bowsette sucks. 18:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * What about Weegee? 18:20, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * I'm just saying Waluigi is always a good option -- 18:49, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Weegee is a funny punching bag in Super Smash Bros. Crusade but alas they removed him. 18:50, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Weegee sucks, Fortran and Malleo were better. But Weegee's still better than Fortran's more-famous ripoff "Grand Dad," or those other two ripoffs. A ripoff of a ripoff. Bowsette was....OK-level-amusing at first, and that's the best I can say. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:27, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Dark Star X, maybe? TheDarkStar (talk) 19:32, April 1, 2019 (EDT) MLBISBJJDarkStarX.png

Not as good as last years
This just felt like it took 5 minutes to make. It looks like pink gorilla crap. FireyYoshi (talk) 19:29, April 1, 2019 (EDT)FireyYoshi
 * ur face iz pink gawrilla crap 19:51, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * I may have only made the logo in, like, five minutes. But it's some of the finest piece of crap I created. 19:54, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Honestly, this was an amazing April fool's prank in my opinion. 19:55, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * It was pretty good... For next year, maybe Fawful could take over the wiki for a day. TheDarkStar (talk) 19:57, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * I should. 19:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * wait what TheDarkStar (talk) 19:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * :thinking: 19:59, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * To be perfectly fair, taking all factors into account....the logo is garbage and you should feel ashamed. Tosses an endless supply of particularly-stinky fish. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:34, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * I will additionally suggest not changing the colors of the ranks on the recent changes again, the bureaucrat green was near blinding. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * agreed 22:04, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Agreed as well. The green melted my eyes and then tossed them in a dump heap. TheDarkStar (talk) 22:11, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * I hated it as well. 23:39, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah. Maybe next year, they could change all usernames to red, making it look like no-one has a userpage. That might be a nice prank for April Fool's 2020. 23:47, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I made the bureaucrat color too bright, that's my bad. I can't check how the colors look until the css page is saved, and I just didn't feel like making correction after correction, so I just went with it :P 00:16, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * You could get color values from GIMP or practically any image editor program so you have a general idea of it before you save the page. Ah well, just something to keep in mind in case it's needed again. 00:18, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * I got them from here, which looked perfectly fine to me. But I guess I'm not the best at picking colors ^^; (I don't know why a bureaucrat didn't just change it) 00:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Concentration. A small amount in a pattern against a huge white background is going to make any super-bright color practically unbearable. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:42, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * I have to agree with FireyYoshi. This year's April Fools' joke definitely was weak, especially when compared to previous year's. Plus, it didn't show the "We Are Pink Donkey Kong Jr." logo (at least for me), it kept showing the regular "Super Mario Wiki" logo instead. Gold Luigi (talk) 14:02, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Try hard refreshing (Ctrl+F5) next time. 14:20, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Wow, this discussion has gone on a long time... 14:23, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * It feels especially weak to me, since I had my "Death to Pie" proposal planned nearly a whole year in advance. In fact, the only recent editions to it were adding Starlow and Kersti alongside Mr. Star Gate after I realized the extent of the bile that stupid yellow thing had amassed for herself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, Pink Donkey Kong Jr. probably wasn't the best April Fool's prank the wiki has seen, especially the eye-melting bureaucrat green. 14:27, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * As I said above, Dark Star X or Fawful might be good choices for April Fool's 2020. 14:50, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * I DO have the perfect choice for April Fools 2020, but I'd rather keep it a secret... OK, not really, how about we turn every Nintendo wiki into a 100% anime wiki for 2020, similar to how we turned them into a Sony wiki in 2017? We can put Astro Boy for Mario, Yokai Watch for Pokemon, etc. Gold Luigi (talk) 15:01, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Good idea, but I will vehemently oppose that in favor of Dark Star X. 15:04, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Forgot to mention that, the reason I want for my April Fools prank to come true in 2020, and ONLY in 2020, is because of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. Anime (and Astro Boy, the first anime ever) were both originated in Japan, right? And Tokyo is in Japan. So I came up with that. Gold Luigi (talk) 15:07, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * What about the inevitable 2020 release of a Super Mario Bros. platformer featuring a revived Dark Star? 15:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * I can even try my hand at rendering characters for an official style though I don't know how quickly that'd turn out to be fake... 15:27, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * If so, could you please do a Dark Star render for my userpage? 15:35, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * That's a lot of effort, not sure if I can undertake that. 15:46, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * OK, thanks! 18:03, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * This discussion is growing awfully long. Anyone know what we should do with it? 18:04, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * In the event another M&L game is announced, I move for Starlowiki. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:15, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Darkstarlowiki? 18:17, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * If this is possible perhaps Porple could change the pop-up ads to just Starlow stating obvious facts such as "the Mario wiki has a Mario page". 18:21, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Sounds reasonable. 19:38, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Now that I think about it, did they inspire the Pink Donkey Kong Jr. wiki from an icon used in April Fools 2014? They included a Pink Donkey Kong Jr. in it in the "News" section. https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:BJAODN/April_Fool%27s_2014 Gold Luigi (talk) 08:05, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
 * I think so. 14:58, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Uhhh...
Does the Pink DK Jr logo at the top need to be replaced since it's no longer April Fools? TheIceCream (talk) 10:07, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * It should. -- 10:09, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * It has been. Click File:Mariowiki.png and do a hard refresh. 11:34, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * It hasn't. It still shows DK Jr. TheIceCream (talk) 14:50, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Try Ctrl+F5. 14:51, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ah yes. Cheers. TheIceCream (talk) 17:28, April 2, 2019 (EDT)

Nintendo's own browsers
For the last couple of weeks, I have been unable to access MarioWiki (and SmashWiki) from the 3DS and Wii U's browsers. Why? RickTommy (talk) 05:59, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Well, it's not because Nintendo isn't allowing it specifically-the wiki isn't affiliated with Nintendo. JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 17:07, July 7, 2019 (EDT) 22:25, July 6, 2019 (EDT)