MarioWiki:Proposals

 http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/17/f_propcopym_9045f2d.png A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code. Signing with the signature code (~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 10) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 11) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 12) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 13) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 14) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 15) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 16) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Habitat of the Character
If several characters have their locations should then be saying that the habitat type of place it appeared. For example: Lady Bow that appeared in Boo's Mansion then the habitat it would be haunted Mansions

Proposer: Deadline: May 29, 2009, 20:00

Support

 * 1) (creator)
 * 2) Per Manuel.

Oppose

 * 1) - These "habitats" aren't really official. Plus, there are quite a few characters whose "habitat" could be questionable -- Wario, Waluigi, Flurrie, Wart, and many others.
 * 2) - Per Stoob. Let me see, are you talking about adding "habitat" category for the characters where they normally live in? I see sorta bland and less useful, better use the places category for the places in the marioverse...
 * 3) - Per Stoob. Also some charcters "live" in more than one places through the series. (e.g. Yoshi, who has been seen to "live" in different areas)
 * 4) - Per Stooben.
 * 5) - Per all.
 * 6) - don´t forget about Koopa Troopa it, lives in Grassland, Desert, Space, Beach, etc...
 * 7) - Per all.
 * 8) Sorry Manuel, Stooben has me convinced...

Removals
''None at the moment.

Splits & Merges
None at the moment.

Add pronunciations
I think that it would help the wiki if we added pronunciations. This would allow users to know how to say hard names to say. The pronunciation would not have to be in the title it could be the first time the name is said in the article. If a article started like this, Mario is, we would change it to, Mario (Mar-e-o) is, or we could change it to Mario pronouced Mar-e-o is. I still don't know how to pronouce Cackaletta. This would also help make the wiki look more offical, after all the Mariowiki baseicley is a dictionary for all things Mario.

Proposer: Deadline: May 28, 17:00 EDT

Support

 * 1) This looks good, being like Mario (Mar-e-o Japanese: マリオ; originally Jumpman) is the main character of the Super Mario series, BTW its pronunciation
 * 2) Per Tucayo

Oppose

 * 1) - See comment below.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo. Also, to do such a thing, we'd need an unambiguous way of representing sounds. "Mar-e-o" is not acceptable because English vowels can be pronounced in a number of ways.
 * 3) - Per Walkazo and Twentytwofiftyseven. Also, even if we could add the pronunciation, it should be in all available languages, because of things like this... Cackletta is not her only name (Bruja Jiji in Spanish is said...) get it?
 * 4) - There are somethins that one pronunces in a way and others in diferent ways too dificult...
 * 5) - There isn't much of voice acting in the games, therefore most pronunciations would be unofficial.
 * 6) - Per all.
 * 7) - Per Walkazo.
 * 8) Per Walkazo and her Walkazo-ness.

Comments
Thanks Tucayo

It sounds good in theory, but I don't think it'd actually work. For one thing, we can't be sure of some pronunciations; see Talk:Dimentio for one example: we're pretty sure it's "Dime-en-tee-o", but there is some doubt. Another example is the X-Nauts: it's supposedly pronounced "cross-not", but then you have statements like "an X-Yux" implying it's been read as "ex-yux", not "cross-yux" on at least one in-game occasion. Other names aren't offered pronunciations at all, like Cackletta - I'd guess it's "Cak-let-ah", but that's an assumption, not a fact; and seeing a speculation's not allowed on mainspace, I couldn't write that down in good faith. The pronunciation of X-Nauts and their affiliates is significant and is already noted on their articles, but otherwise, adding pronunciations to some articles but leaving unverifiable ones would just look inconsistent. -

We could put possible pronunciation on unsure ones, and for the actually pronunciation for those we could just put the most common one or the most likley one, or we could always put more then one pronunciation

2257: Yeah, the IPA is a good way of putting pronunciations (and "informal" spellings such as "Mar-e-o" could be put additionally). I could also help with that. But I don't think we need a proposal for it. Where the pronunciation appears to be interesting, we can put it. (Only problem about IPA is, that some of the symbols don't seem to be displayed correctly - see this article and its talk).

I think that even if this proposal fails, we should be allowed to add pronunciations to articles about subjects whose pronunciations are officially confirmed and not self-explaining. This could be helpful for non-English names as well. I am not voting because I don't think I agree with either option.

Allow grammar edits of other users on talk pages
I recently learned of a rule that says that users are not allowed to edit other users' comments on talk pages. That includes their own talk page. I prefer to use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation and think that it is a great idea to allow users to edit other users' comments for grammar, spelling, and punctuation purposes.

Proposer: Deadline: Friday, 29 May 2009, 20:00

Allow

 * 1) - I want my talk page to look professional; per above!

Don't Allow

 * 1) - Doing this is sort of "censoring" other user's comments. Other user's comments should not be edited by another user.
 * 2) &mdash;If you want to use proper grammar, then do so. But that does not give you the right to change others' comments just because you think their grammar is unprofessional.
 * 3) - Per all.
 * Per all. Editing other people's comments means editing their writing style. What if they have a very own way of spelling certain words or putting punctuation marks? We really shouldn't manipulate it.
 * 1) - Per TimeQ, that was exactly what i was going to say
 * 2) 4DJONG -First I don't want people editing other people's user pages it's not fair, plus I really think it's rude!!!!
 * 3) - Per all.
 * 4) - This is totally against Wikipedia's policies and therefore it's innapropriate for a Wiki.
 * 5)  - This rule could get out of hand,and users would be changing what other users say.Everyone has there own way of opions and writing,and we don't need anyone changing it.
 * 6) - Per all.
 * 7) per all. the discussions don't need 2 be formal, after all wikiing is only a bit of fun! Lu-igi board 07:41, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
 * 8) - Per all. It's the user's own writing style, which may have flaws or other things to give it characterization/style. The wiki sounds all-around formal and clean, but something like talk pages don't really need formal speech to give it a professional look.
 * 9) Mario & Luigi I do understand your point Ralphan, but that would violate a personal right as a user on this wiki.

Comments
The content isn't changed; it will look more professional.
 * I would just like to note that this rule is no longer unwritten. It was recently added after an administrative discussion. &mdash;

I really would like to support this, but there's a big, big problem...

This is THE INTERNET. The bane of all grammar and spelling >_>.

Make Rule for Deletion of Unlicensed Images
Since the is no rule set in stone for the deletion of Unlicensed images, I am proposing that we delete all week-old unlicensed images. This policy will enforce the licensing of images, therefore there will be no copyright issues.

Proposer: Deadline: June 1, 2009, 17:00

Support

 * 1) Per above

Oppose

 * 1) - If an image is unlicensed, then license it (and maybe remind the uploader to license their images in the future). Deleting useful images with fixable licensing problems is more destructive than productive. There are licenses for everything, so finding one that works shouldn't be a problem.
 * 2) per walkazo Lu-igi board 07:43, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
 * 3) Mario & Luigi Per Walkazo and her Walkazo-ness
 * 4) Don´t forget that we will be eliminating some pictures of areas and it will be to look it´s pages less atractive and having less info...
 * 5) -- Per Walkazo.

Comments
@Walkazo There isn't a license for everything. Like derivative works of copyrighted Mario images like user comics and sprite recolors. And there can't be a license for those images because its not covered under fair use.

As i told Yoshario in chat, maybe (if its possible),to make choosing a license obligatory to upload an image, and maybe adding an "Other" option


 * Yoshario: wouldn't the Attribution ShareAlike license work? -

It doesn't matter, it still wouldn't be covered under fair use.
 * If you go to Special:Upload and look on the "choose a license" bar, it's one of the "free licenses" at the bottom. It may not be "fair use", but it must be a valid license or we wouldn't be given the opportunity to select it when uploading images. Reading the description (on the webside the template links to), it sounds like it's perfect for how Users recolour sprites for user comics. -
 * But wouldn't that only work if Nintendo releases their work under the Creative Commons ShareAlike license?
 * Or...you could just make the licensing templates that we're missing. I think I've made one or two.