Talk:Rosalina

If anyone is wondering about the name it comes from GoNintendo.com PJ
 * How does it come from there? 23:50, 18 July 2007 (EDT)


 * GoNintendo says what her name is. Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!
 * She was first seen in a magazine (I think it was Famitsu) ad THAT had her name. GoNintendo just had an English translation. 23:38, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Saying she's resembles a White Mage seems too much of a stretch to me. MamaWaluigi 17:25, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Princess?
How do we really know she's a princess? Just because she has a crown?

They officially called her "Princess Rosetta" so she is a princess...

Yes thats true they did call her Princess Rosetta I saw it somewhere before

Oh. I saw like 3 videos and she called herslef "Rosetta". Sorry.

I've checked every single word in the game. she never ever calls herself PRINCESS Rosalina. The only words used to refer to her are Rosalina, and Mama. Never Princess. 18:25, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Just having a crown does not make her a princess. I get a crown in my Burger King Kids Meal. Does that make me a king? Well technically I am a king, but still. No it doesn't.King Boo

Does that mean we should move the page? --Trogga 11:35, 15 January 2008 (EST)

I am Zero! Well actually, a princess have big responsibilities, Peach does little in the mushroom kingdom, Daisy...... what does she do in sarasaland anyways? Rosalina in the other hand takes care of the whole freakin' universe, so I'll consider her a princess. Probably a year or two back there was a proposal to change the page Rosalina into Princess Rosalina, even though I made a good point and I consider her a princess, I would of oppose that proposal until she is called Princess Rosalina in future games. Zero signing out.

She may have been called a princess in early promotional or preview materials, but it seems to have been completely abandoned in the final game. I'd say it's about as relevant as saying she's related to Peach (as in her storyline in development). On a related note, why isn't the Bowser page "King Bowser?" LinkTheLefty 16:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why we should make Rosalina a Princess. The game refers to her as Mother of the Luma not Princess of the Luma.

Zero777 makes a good point and she is Princess Rosalina, I read it on the Prima Guide.--Smileymiley5001 17:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Im not sure if she is a princess.Ive seen pages saying "Princess Rosalina",but she doesent live in a castle but a cottage(accorrding to Super Mario Galaxy2).--Peanutbutter-girl 02:33, 12 March 2011 (EST)peanutbutter-girl

Rosetta or Rosalina?
I've been reading the info, and all its contents refers to Rosetta, the original name of that princess (in other words, from Japan). Rosalina is the European version, so, it would have to move Rosalina to Rosetta again. The reason is that Europe will receive the game early than expected, only for the Super Smash Bros Brawl push back in the continent.

From what I've heard, AND from what I've seen by playing a copy of the full game at Gamestop, her US name is Rosalina. Bob Greenlake 20:52, 4 November 2007 (EST) Okay, I think this needs to be moved. The latest Nintendo Power issue confirmed that Rosalina is infact her US name. Bob Greenlake 21:00, 7 November 2007 (EST) It's only a few more days, lets wait till the game comes out to find out whether it is Rosetta or Rosalina. Mariofanical

I viewed one of her "photos" and on the top it said rosetta not rosalina, but on the rosalina page it said rosalina.--Peanutbutter-girl 02:38, 12 March 2011 (EST)peanutbutter-girl

That's because that's what she's called in Japan...

04:55, 12 March 2011 (EST)

Appearance/Trivia
Isn't this the first Mushroom Kingdom/Mario series human to have an eye color other than blue? (I think they're green, but I guess it's arguable.) If so, I want to put it in the trivia section, even though it is, ahem, trivial.

No. I put the picture on paint, enlarged it, placed a grid on it, and every single box of the grid that covers the eye has a color that is a shade of blue.

Concept Art?
Do we need the concept art here? Also, I heard from another user that Nintendo Power guides were discontinued, so this was false? - 06:01, 11 November 2007 (EST)
 * Yeah, the concept art should go. :|

Rosalina
How did you find her past?!?! Where did you find the story of Princess Rosalina Princess Butterfly 06:25, 14 November 2007 (EST)

It's from some library in the comet observatory.

I just making sure it true (in her story book I'm in chapter 5.) Princess Butterfly 17:11, 15 November 2007 (EST)

I'm finished 19:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Delete

 * 1) King Boo- Nintendo power guides were discontinued. And it's just not really important.

Keep

 * 1) Nintendo has claimed Prima to be their official guidebook partners. Therefore all Prima content is official and can be kept. 22:14, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * 2) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Per Knife. It's official art anyway, and it helps us find out more about Beta Rosalina.
 * 1) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif Per Knife. It's official art anyway, and it helps us find out more about Beta Rosalina.

Related to Peach
She was original planned to be related to Peach? Source please! HyperToad

I heard a few days ago from some page that peach and rosalina were really sisters or relatives,but nintendo changed their mind...User:pathfinderwii

Yup there were suppost to be sister but Nintendo decided to keep it as a beta element.

She in SSBB
I read in Rosalina's bio that she is going to be in SSBB. (NPC) Is this true? Source please. Princess Butterfly 11:12, 26 January 2008 (EST)
 * We've had various claims, but no one was able to give a source. - 12:24, 26 January 2008 (EST)


 * The closest one is GoNintendo, yet they included no image. Paper Jorge ( Talk�Contributions)�

everyone probably already knows this, but Rosalina never made the Final cut. Same situation w/ Darkrai. They were at whobby 2008, but never made the final cut as AT(Rosalina) or Pokeball(Darkrai). They each, however made the cut as regular trophies. I know. It sux. :( Manaphyboy14 23:25, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I heard Tails was gonna be an Assist Trophy too. Neox 14:44, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

darkrai in brawl? (daydreams over how cool that would be...) Lu-igi board 14:17, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

I am Zero! Rosalina is not in brawl as a trophy, is she? If she is, show me proof. Zero signing out.
 * Trophy Descriptions (SSBB) lists all Brawl trophies. The word "Rosalina" can't be found anywhere on that page. So no. - 16:27, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Mario Kart Wii?
She really isn't in Mario Kart Wii, is she? I mean that sounds really stupid, also she is a heavy weight character? She is the only one who has something circling her, this sounds more like a rumor, is she actually confirmed by Nintendo?
 * She is in the game. The game is out in Japan and Europe, and these versions include Rosalina, with a Luma circling her. 'Nuff said. --Grandy02 12:44, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * She's not heavy weight, but large. They don't have weight, but size classes for the game. - 12:47, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * So she's possibly a middle.

...What? No, she is a heavy-weight. We all know how skinny she is, okay. She's still a heavy-weight though. Fixitup

Rosalina is considered a "large" character because she is much taller than the medium characters. It's the same with Waluigi, who was a "medium-weight" in double-dash - J-Yoshi64

Not Really a Quote
I don't think “Go! They're inside. Hurry!” is really a quote. A quote shows something about a character. This is just Rosalina saying something. It's not a real quote. Does anyone agree/disagree? 19:49, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

She said it. It's a quote. That's what a quote is. Go Luma :) Bowser's Luma

But even though the dialouge is right, it's considered to be a "generic quote" and wouldn't make sense to post it on her page. The ones we have on there right now are the best ones worth mentioning in relation to Rosalina so far. :) --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 16:33, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

???
How can she be in Mario Kart Wii? One hundred years OBIVISALLY haven't passed... Nintendofan146 21:14, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Then what happens in between 100 years on her turf? I'm not sure... but she made becuase it's a spin-off game.

Height?
I read in her physcial description that she is considerably taller then Peach and Daisy are we sure about this? I have directly compared official Mario Kart Wii character art and Mario Galaxy screen shots and reward photos using photoshop opacity and direct measuring and she appears to be the same height or only a few centremeters taller at most.

The only art that seems to show proof of height difference is the Mario Kart Wii congratulations screens, where yes after a couple of tests I found she was obviously larger. Although only slightly. However this is still very little evidence.

I am not saying it should be removed but, perhaps a slight rewording is needed. The description seems to imply she is the same height as Waluigi. I find this difficult to believe as she IS the same height as him when he stands in his usual posture of hunched and knees bent but, if he stood up straight I doubt that Rosalina would be his height at all. We must remember Waluigi's true height is rarely shown as he is always partially crouching to bring him down to the other characters levels. I'm willing to admit she seems larger then the other girls but, not that tall?

Of course if anyone can bring forth any other evidence (on either side of my debate) I'd really be interested. So thoughts please?

I do suggest however that the description be changed to taller then the other Princesses but, the Waluigi height comparison removed. - Despot joil

...Done. :|

Er ... thanks ... sorry I tend to write essays because I'm trying to back up my ideas and I feel bad changing other people's edits without explaining ... :)Despot joil

Sometimes the best move is to edit it first. If someone reverts it, then you can bring it to the talk page to try and work something out. ;)

Identical articles
Rosalina and are exactly the same, but two different articles. Which one should be the main one?

...Wut? is a redirect to Rosalina... :|

Long Quote Not Good
I don't think articles should have quotes as long as that at the top. Then again, it's probably because Rosalina never shuts up. Oh, and is she a princess? WTF?!

A quote is a quote, regardless of how long it is. And she's not a princess.
 * Then why does the article call her a princess multiple times? --Grandy02 04:18, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

Because someone was mistaken. :|

she is a princess
she is an oficial princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 * No Crystal lucario 06:41, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Per Crystal Lucario. She is NOT a princess.

She is never called in the game princess. She does is a leader of the Luma's, but it doesn't make you a princess. Luma's call her mama instead. However, Bowser is the king of the koopa's but his article name is just Bowser. And Daisy is only called a princess in Super Mario Land and after it never again (this is also said on the European mario site).
 * She wears a crown, that's the only thing we can say for sure. - 11:34, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * About Daisy, she is actually called a princess again multiple times, in her various character bios within the games. But I don't remember that Rosalina was called a princess in the two games she's in. --Grandy02 11:58, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

In most of the spinoff games, the princesses aren't called princesses, but just there normal names. You can't really get information from those games. Rosalina is never called a princess, but she is royal in some way. Lumas call her their mother. It isn't Princess Rosalina, but Mama Rosalina.

I wouldn't say she's not a princess. I'd rather say we don't know whether she is a princess. We could also point out that it is very likely that she is one. - 16:01, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

True. I understand what you mean. I noticed Peach didn't call herself a princess in Galaxy, but we all know she is one. It's the same with Rosalina (she called herself just Rosalina). But we don't know what for leader she is. Queen, princess or just mother.


 * Cobold, we can't say something is likely in an article unless there's a source attached, right? (because if there is no source, it's just speculation) I could swear that in the pre-release data for the game she was called a princess, though. If someone wants to root around on IGN.com I'm sure we could find it. 02:41, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

I thought that was a beta Elements. (I check ING.com)

I think she is a princess because on the storybook, pages with the hill and the tree shows a castle in the background, that's probably Rosalina's. 22:33, 26 April 2010 (EDT)

I found proof
I found some proof she is a pricess. This is the first part of Rosalina's bio in Super Mario Galaxy. The whole bio can be found at the end of Rosalina's page.

Not much is known about Rosalina, the lonely princess who wanders the cosmos in the Comet Observatory, a giant starship that travels the celestial expanse.

Move the page?
 * If nothing else, we gotta make sure the infobox has the prefix. Good find. 13:51, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks. I didn't found more proof. But are we going to move the page?
 * I'd wait for more support. It'd be a pitty to go through deleting the Princess Rosalina redirect and moving this page just to have to revert all of that. If you don't get enough attention, bring it to the main page talk or proposals page (if you make a proposal be sure to mention your proof!) 01:42, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

I think we shouldn't move the article until her Princess name starts to become more reocurring. Though we should mention somewhere in the article that she's a princess. 17:03, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Right - just like how King Bowser Koopa isn't as prominent as "Bowser," so we have the article named "Bowser." 23:26, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

More proof found in two packs of Mario Kart Wii trading cards. One pack had a holo Rosalina and the other had a plain one, but the text on the back was the same: "This Princess is loved by all Luma." It also calls her the first female heavyweight.

Rosalina's Mother?
Is it worth giving Rosalina's mother a section in the article or giving her an article of her own? (even though it may only be a stub)? Just a thought I personally don't mind either way. Despot joil

Many Rosaline Questions
I need some help figuring this one out. What exactly is Rosalina's home planet?

And what do you make of the fact that Rosalina's mother looks almost (if not exactly) like Rosalina looks now?

Also, what planet are the Comet Observatory and the planetoids of the Gateway Galaxy hovering over? Is that Mushroom World? --

Yeah, it's the mushroom world. Because it says she visits her home planet every something years. Aluigi, The Luigi Legend! Whut Stuff? 21:40, 6 December 2008 (EST)


 * So the Gateway Galaxy, Good Egg Galaxy and Bowser Jr.'s Robot Reactor are all in orbit around Mushroom World then, right? -- P.S. What do y'all make of those big Starman outlines on the surface of the planet?

Question
Does anyone know if Rosalina is gonna be in any other games besides mario galaxy and mario kart wii? Someone wrote she would be in mario and sonic at the winter olimpics, but that had since been removed. I really need an answer now, I have asked on many websites and I have had no reply!!!! --Daaviiid 15:16, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Super Sluggers?
On Dry Bowser's Page, it states she was planned to be present. I can't find this anywhere else on this site, though.Nintendofan146 19:18, 17 May 2009 (EDT)


 * The information in question was really not needed on that page (I just removed it). Second, I believe when Rosalina was "introduced", Namco Bandai might have been in the latter part of development of Mario Super Sluggers, so there's a chance they were not aware of her existence. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 20:52, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Profile Image
Why is her profile image so small? Daisy's and Peach's are a lot bigger. Is there any fixing this? Pyve 14:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
 * The thumbnails you mean? Because the pic itself is bigger than Daisy's. It's probably because that Rosalina's pic is broader than the other two. I looked at the editable version, and I see that Rosalina's on the Profile is 215 pixels, while Daisy's just 200, and Daisy's pic is still bigger, because of that Rosalina's pic is just broader than Daisy's. Hope that helps you.

Princess Peach is rosalina's mother?
I'm not sure if anyone know this already but i think something secret about Rosalina http://kinsmangames.com/2007/12/16/the-secret-of-princess-rosalina/ do you think it true.


 * The blog entry there is more of an assumption to me; it's his guy's own opinion regarding his conclusions. We aren't allowed to post probable conclusions here on the Wiki itself. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 00:44, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Super Mario Galaxy 2
I think it’s time to start including the characters affiliations with Super Mario Galaxy 2. As of now, her only known appearance in the second game takes place during Super Mario Galaxy 2’s ending cutscene. Are there possibly other appearances of the character during, say perhaps… hidden cutscenes? Doriguin 10:00, 23 May 2010 (EST)


 * Totally,Rosalina also appears in some levels as a holographic-looking shadow that takes over and controls mario/luigi while you watch her skillfully get to the finish,but this is optional,and doing so will give you a bronze star[warning you of this](which will bring you to the next planet, but it will not count as one of the 120 stars)

--Dagago 06:04, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think we should start that. I got the game today, and sometimes, Baby luma will receive a letter saying something like "My dear baby Luma, I know you're ok and i know you're helping someone [...] may the Stars shine down on you" or something like that, AND when you open the letter, we clearly hear Rosalina's voice. Plus there's a little star stamp on the letter. So Rosalina's sending letters to baby Luma.Sambiss

Actually, in the infobox, the "affiliation" is already there... "Luma" and "Comet Observatory". Luma refers to any type encountered in both Super Mario Galaxy installments, so I believe we've got this already accounted for. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 21:16, 23 May 2010 (EDT)


 * What do you mean? Sorry, I'm stupid XD Sambiss
 * Oh! I just spoiled myself, Rosalina also appears at the end of the last galaxy, Grandmaster Galaxy. She appears at the end of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIJWYFCutL0 and here's a screenshot for Mario Wiki: http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/Sambiss/GrandmastergalaxyRosalina2.png . She will thanks the player for finding every stars of the game. Also, I noticed that in the cutscene before the last level(Boss of the sixth world, not the grandmaster one), a "comet" appeared in front of Bowser's Castle. That means she's doen't only appears in the ending...We should start writing that on her page. Sambiss Talk 15:25, 24 May 2010 (EST)


 * Her role is kinda similar to Yoshi when he appeared in Super Mario 64.


 * Well yeah, OH, I just found out, in the video posted earlier, that Rosalina, after collecting every stars, will join the others chatacters on the Starship Mario: http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr330/Sambiss/MOARRosalinainSMG2.png That's cool in a way :) Sambiss Talk 18:23, 25 May 2010 (EST)

Keep or not to keep?
Well, the page has undergone some serious changes recently, but it seems that the article has lost (some) things that were worth to be added in the article. I know it sounds silly, but this is to take a quick solution for this nonsense. let me know what do you think. alright?

A thing that I want to keep in this article is the concept art of rosalina (that sketch from the Prima Guide) but the user wants to turn into like a reference. In my opinion in regards to this matter, why remove it, and take it as reference if we have the image here and use in the article? even an image can explain more than thousand of words...

See the history for some other reasons...

Keep image in the article

 * 1) People are visual learners. You get more from a picture of Rosalina than word descriptions.
 * 2) I am Zero! Per BLOF. Zero signing out.
 * 3) Per all.
 * 4) Nothing's wrong with the image.
 * 5) Nothing is wrong with the image. It is official artwork.
 * 1) Nothing is wrong with the image. It is official artwork.

Comments
It's conceptual artwork for starters, the only reason I decided to write a description about it is because not only was it placed randomly on the article before, hence the still ridiculous image description length which is now especially ridiculous since there's a whole section describing it. Not only that it's not like Rosalina has a long history and she definitely hasn't had real development in terms of her appearance and that's the best you can get. Much like the image comparing Peach and Daisy's heights, it doesn't need to be on the page because when you say something and then follow it up as a reference it's a given when the image being used as a "visual", which I'll touch on in the next sentence, isn't even the type of image commonly found right on the pages. The excuses people used that a visual is better than a written description is useless because the visual is still there, it's just used as a reference, which once I get my hands on the page again Rosalina won't have any of because the one she has now isn't even correctly referencing what the minor statement says about it.

So the points are, this is concept art of a design not even used for the character, concept art I will add that was only released in the official guide for the game meaning it's not even commercially released imagery, there is a large description of the art and the image is being used as a reference, this actually adds a reference to the page which she needs and still keeps the visual intact.

If you still actually think it's a good idea to keep this image on her page that's your problems because unless I go out of my way to vote as well as call up people I know would have some sense about this then I really don't care about how dumb you want to make Rosalina's page look because the only reason I edit her page is because it's easy to set it in the same style of the pages for characters who are actually important like the real Mario princesses. UhHuhAlrightDaisy 00:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe this may sound offensive, but I don't like loudmouthed guys, and overly long texts that gets me dizzy and doing so doesn't seem to be constructive for an article in this wiki. Since you don't want to discuss about that once for all, then I'll assume that this is not needed and you won't make changes for this from now.
 * Uh hello?! I addressed the issue throughly! You might not like me, but there's a difference between being annoying to someone because you have a certain opinion, and being blatantly offensive. And you are offensive. Is that what you wanted? You created a vote to go against my points, but when I thoroughly present them to you use the "too long didn't read" excuse?UhHuhAlrightDaisy 03:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Quote
Is it me or is the quote kinda long? How about we change it for something shorter, like the ones at the bottom of the article?
 * I am Zero! I think it should be changed to "May the Force stars be with you.". Zero signing out.
 * Does she actually say that? If she does we should totally change it to that. There's always something on this page overly long and unnecessary. UhHuhAlrightDaisy 03:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There's only one problem -- so far, from what I noticed, the quote on the page now is definitely meaningful in the case of Rosalina; one of the best I've seen in regards to her and her personality overall in the SMG game. So, I doubt it's really necessary to have that changed. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 05:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well there's a quotes section for a reason, and it is pretty agreeable the current quote is over the limits of long. UhHuhAlrightDaisy 02:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I am Zero! @UhHuhAlrightDaisy, It is actually "May the stars shine down on you." Zero signing out.


 * I think Zero's proposed phrase is OK, that's her catchphrase and it also tells how Rosalina is.

I'm with Zero. Her current quote is WAY too long and we should really change it to that. Superdaisygirl

Alien?
Looking at the Category:Aliens page, it states that any being from outside of the Mushroom World or Earth is considered an alien. Wouldn't that make Rosalina an alien? As far as I know, she's not from the Mushroom World nor Earth. Although she's pretty hot humanoid for an alien, I think she should be put in that category. Agree? 20:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I am Zero! Great reason, I do agree. Zero signing out.
 * Then I will do it.

No, I'm pretty sure Rosalina is from the mushroom world, she just went up into space with a Luma. Anyone who doesn't believe me can read her storybook. - J-Yoshi64 (talk)
 * That is just speculation, it never said she was from the Mushroom world.

Rosalina's Mother
This was taken from the List of Implied Characters talk page

During the scenes of Rosalina's story, there is an image of Rosalina's mother, a clear close up of her, but only showing part of her shoulders and mouth (and there is other of her with her daughter Rosie silhouetted), so I think it's possible to make an article of her, since she is seen in the game and not only mentioned as it is thought, or also redirect the link to Rosalina's Storybook.

I think the page would be extremely small and it would stay that way. I highly doubt we'll see any more mention of her. UhHuhAlrightDaisy 02:24, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Is this part necessary?
"If she is usually traveling through the universe at near light speed then, according to the theory of special relativity, much less time would pass for her than would pass back on the Mushroom World due to time dilation. In this case she may in fact still be a young woman."

Sure, science is good and all, but these theories should be kept to the real world and I don't think we should really be applying this to the Marioverse. 14:55, 19 March 2011 (EDT)