Talk:Super Mario Maker

Para-wing
I saw a video of Mario Maker and you can give goomba's and koopa wings, not suprisingly but you can aslo give Hammer Bro's and Piranha Plants wings so they become Para-Hammer Bro's and Para-Piranha Plants should we create articles for a Para-Hammerbro and Para-Piranha Plant or just put it in this page? 11:40, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
 * It'd be best to wait until game release, to get the full information on them, but I assume they'd get new articles.

Enemy list
Is the extensive list of enemies really necessary? Can't we just put the four kinds and say that any of them can have wings or be put in towers or both?


 * As they are separate enemies, they will separate articles, therefore the kinds are necessary.
 * Can we at least make a chart?
 * When there are available sprites then a chart may be a good idea.

Power-Ups
Is there any confirmation that the new slim Mushrooms are called Luigi Mushrooms? --Mariofan5000 (talk) 16:13, 15 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Yes, there is a source right next to its name in the powerups section.
 * Did the developers say that or was it an untrustworthy E3 kioskperson? --Hiccup (talk) 13:00, 17 June 2014 (EDT)
 * If a source isn't credible, it shouldn't be put in the article at all. I think it's fine.

Separate articles on small enemies variations
Separate articles on small enemies variations are a bad idea, in my opinion. Are we going to have "Blue Flying Goomba with 2 Koopa Paratroopas underneath then below that an upside down waluigi poison fireflower" ? --Hiccup (talk) 13:00, 17 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Obviously what you mentioned is absurd, but with tower and flying variation enemies already existing, those kinds do deserve an article.
 * I don't know what you're getting at with that "Blue flying goomba..." thing you said. That's four separate things. But see, we already have articles for enemies like that. Like Paratroopas and Paragoombas, and especially the emotional enemies from Super Princess Peach.

Merge Goomba Tower, Koopa Troopa Tower, etc... to one article: Enemy Towers
I think its a good IdeaToadbrigade5 (talk) 22:56, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Sounds reasonable, but why do you think it's a good idea? Is it the gigantic new amount of enemies that can now be put into towers? I would suggest then, that aside from Goomba Tower which already has an article anyway, we could put the information of the tower variation in the enemy's article? Like perhaps, "A tower variation of this enemy also exists as well."?
 * Why? What makes these new tower enemies less deserving of an article than a Goomba Tower? Nothing. Like a Goomba Tower or a Shy Stack they will act differently from a normal, therefore they will receive their own article.


 * I disagree:
 * 1) because we do not know how many enemies there are in the game so it is said to be a big problem to create those pages;
 * 2) From this point of view we should create a single page for all the enemies with wings or of all those enemies of Paper Mario with helmets sharp.--Sonic98 (talk) 06:14, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
 * It won't be a problem, articles are meant to be created for new things, like these tower enemies. And we do create articles for those, Paragoomba, Koopa Paratroopa (wings), Spiky Parabuzzy, Hyper Spiky Goomba (Spikes).

Thing is, that's like merging all spiked enemies together. You can create the page, but merging isn't a good idea. - 08:36, 21 June 2014 (EDT)

However, I don't think a tower enemy is anything but more enemies stacked on top of eachother. That means you can put any two enemies on top of them and call it a tower. They don't even act different


 * We already have articles on Tower enemies already, as they act different enough for us to consider them different. There is no reason why these ones should not get full articles whilst others do.
 * He has a point. Sledge Bros. are heavier Hammer Bros.. Galoombas are Goombas that are round and have more resistance. They get their own articles. Every existing enemy variation has an article. Why not towers?
 * Yes we also created pages like angry hammer bros and sad goombas and stuff. The more articles the more fun :P 13:55, 21 June 2014 (EDT)


 * Emotion enemies, Galoombas, spike variations, etc act differently. I am not saying merge exsiting Para-variations or emotion variations, but I don't think that tower is an actual variation, since they act exactly the same as the base enemy. Toadbrigade5 (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2014 (EDT)


 * Even the flying enemies are the same as those based only flying when hit and lose their wings. Do you mean that the enemy tower still do not deserve their own pages?


 * Tower enemies take more hits than the standard enemy.
 * I think they should have a page, don't get me wrong, but I think they should have the same page. Toadbrigade5 (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2014 (EDT)

Well, tower enemies can be different... A Goomba Tower can be tall enough that Mario would have to find a bigger surface to jump on them. The Shy Stack from Paper Mario cannot be jumped on until whittled down. Plus, because this is, as you point out, a huge collection of enemies, we'll see a lot about their individual function. What happens when you stomp on the top Koopa of a Koopa Tower? What's the best way to get rid of a Hammer Bro. Tower when they're constantly filling the screen with hammers? We already have articles for stacks of enemies like this. Why suddenly change it to a whole page for each and every one?