Talk:List of rumors and urban legends

Can someone add These Rumours?
All of them have been believed by a lot of people.
 * Marty the Thwomp in Mario Kart 64.
 * Blue Luma in Mario Tennis Open.
 * Purple Yoshi in Yoshi's Story.
 * Chocolate Factory Level in Super Mario Bros. (And no, people really thought that there was one. Look it up).
 * Mario in Flappy Bird (It is a Mario rumour, just not a Mario game).
 * Yoshi ridable in Super Mario 64.
 * Geno in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
 * Sony Pictures is working on a new, animated, Super Mario Bros. movie.


 * I'm not sure, I'll call these to attention, but I doubt they are notable enough. Blue Luma and Purple Yoshi were beta elements. Marty was a vandal, and was put on BJAODN. I never heard of any of the others though.Toad-brigade model CTTT.png Toad   and his brigade! Toadette model CTTT.png 21:02, 22 December 2014 (EST)
 * I vaguely remember the Chocolate Factory, but I couldn't tell you where it came from... I might be thinking of "Mario's Factory" from Super Mario RPG. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:14, 22 December 2014 (EST)
 * Sorry, LinkTheLefty, forgot the source. The Chocolate Factory rumour was spread through a well-known message board that many gamers consulted. Can't remember the name though.
 * @86.46.226.175, please sign your comments using ~ at the end. 04:07, 5 January 2015 (EST)

Speculation
I don't think speculations are allowed. Are they? User:Kirby kart
 * No, but I think these are the more-substantiated (not crap from 4chan, GameFAQs, or circulated "leaks") speculations that are debunked, so we're not actually speculating. Either way, it's a new page, and there are several questions regarding what content should be placed here, although there isn't a definite answer yet. 17:10, 10 August 2014 (EDT)

Shigeru Miyamoto
"Shigeru Miyamoto himself has asserted multiple times that he used the word "donkey" to convey stubbornness. "

Before anyone calls me out and slaps after this statement, the original source, "Miyamoto Shrine: Shigeru Miyamoto's Home on the Web" is unavailable, so I can't quite source the statement. If there's any archive or something like that to substantiate the claim, please add it. 17:16, 10 August 2014 (EDT)

Sould these do?
I remember of people believing in two things: Should these appear?
 * Waluigi in SM64DS
 * Mii Outfit C in MKWii

Not OK
Suicide is not appropriate for 7 years old children... I don't know how to change it though.
 * I'm sorry? Suicide is a topic that is seen sometimes in several children's TV cartoons. Besides, we're the same wiki that doesn't censor swear words in articles. We're not going to remove suicide implications because it's "inappropriate" for children. It's not like we're advocating it either. 14:28, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

Something I believe needs proper sleuthing - Pauline's relation to Mario.
Specifically in Saturday Supercade. We already know she was intended to have an undefined relation to the hero in the original arcades, was called Mario's girlfriend in some early home ports of Donkey Kong, then eventually considered a close friend in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series. Looking around, one can see a ton of claims that she was actually supposed to be Mario's niece (Luigi's implied daughter) in that cartoon, but the problem is that none of those sources seem to be particularly reliable. Still, it certainly comes up often enough that I think it ought to be addressed. There's not too much information that I can find on the original cartoon (probably due to licensing issues preventing rebroadcast and such), but there must be a reason this idea was so widespread... That reason may be gossip or assumption coupled with general lack of knowledge about it, but for all we know it could have indeed been mentioned in some obscure commercial or segment. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:10, 30 September 2014 (EDT)
 * If none of the sources is reliable, in my opinion you should not put it. This should not turn in a page with fanon thoughts...
 * It depends if those claims are true or not, but if the cartoon really does say Pauline is Mario's niece, we should mention it, but I don't think we should take it as fact. 01:30, 1 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Unfortunately, that's pretty much impossible to tell at the moment - it was listed here in this very wiki based on a Saturday Supercade overview, but it was later removed since there's no available direct source that's able to support this. Recordings of the episodes are hard to come by. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:10, 21 December 2014 (EST)
 * Well, this one will remain in the gray zone, but yeah, maybe we can list this as a rumor without a source. Once we get something more direct, then we can move it into the main articles as fact. I just hope it doesn't end up misleading readers, though. 16:12, 21 December 2014 (EST)
 * That depends - is it okay to list a rumor if it currently doesn't have a satisfying conclusion? LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:30, 21 December 2014 (EST)
 * Rumors inherently don't have satisfying evidence. They wouldn't be rumors after all, right? But I don't know if this would count as speculation, which we don't allow... 22:48, 21 December 2014 (EST)
 * True, but unless I'm mistaken, the inspiration for this page doesn't allow rumors if they're inconclusive. It can definitely be called a rumor rather than speculation since the source definitely seems to have viewed episodes (at least, he manages to supply screenshots in an era of the Internet where videos were far less common), but at the same time, I don't want to end up misleading others if it turns out to be false memory all along. Here's an idea - he still seems to be an active writer, so perhaps he can be reached out. Best case scenario, he can dig up a clip that proves it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2014 (EST)

Interesting theory about the "Kaptain K. Rool is K. Rool's brother" thing
I remember reading on DK Vine a very interesting theory about how that infamous error might be related to the 1994 DKC CGi cartoon. The cartoon was popular in Japan and its cast list features Klump and Kaptain Skurvy, an obvious pirate-themed texture-swap of Klump who, in one episode, is revealed to be his brother. Considering the above, it's not entirely unlikely some underpaid Games Art intern might have confused or misremembered the cartoon while rushing to write the trophy descriptions.

Of course, it's *just* a theory and not really substantiated but well... any thought about incorporating that in the article? --Glowsquid (talk) 14:52, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
 * Just mention it, but don't create a connection between the two. And maybe say it's not substantiated to avoid misleading our readers. 15:52, 26 October 2014 (EDT)

Removing unrelated/unsourced information
I believe "Gunpei Yokoi's departure" should be removed for having nothing to do with Mario; it seems like a Nintendo rumour, not a Mario one. "Larry Koopa's namesake" should be removed, because it is unsourced; ONM is gone (dead link), and "Dayvv Brooks" is not a valid source. Finally, this is not anyhow a valid source; if User: Ashley and Red wants this in the article, he should publish it in an actual reliable article and then cite with it. No intent to offend anyone, I am just trying to be bold to improve the page. 08:54, 4 December 2014 (EST)


 * I wasn't initially sure about the Gunpei Yokoi one, but I was told it's ok when we brainstormed the page on the staff board. If there's enough of a consensus toward removing it... yeah sure.
 * The Larry Koopa one is totally valid. The ONM article is viewable via wayback archive and Dayvv Brooks' legit. He showed proof of his credentials. --Glowsquid (talk) 10:12, 4 December 2014 (EST)


 * OK, then, skipping the Larry Koopa part, let's wait for more feedback on Yokoi and "Rosalina in Mario Tennis Open". 10:24, 5 December 2014 (EST)