Talk:Fishin' Lakitu

State of this article
Currently, this article lists off every appearance of a Lakitu with a fishing pole. The problem is, most of these examples are identified simply as "Lakitu." While I think these instances are inspired by Fishin' Lakitu, I feel that they are simply Lakitus that have fishing poles with which they may or may not fish, not necessarily being the "Fishin' Lakitu" entity. I feel that should only qualify when it is officially distinguished as such. Otherwise...we're pretty much defying official terminology, here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:05, April 7, 2020 (EDT)
 * Agreed. 01:23, April 7, 2020 (EDT)
 * I definitely think this article needs trimming, especially after the Pirate Guy cleanup. 20:13, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Sections that come to mind are Super Mario Odyssey and Mario Party. 21:14, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * I'd say literally all of the Mario Kart and derivative appearances can be nixed. The manual for the SNES game has him saying something like, "Hello, my name's Lakitu." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:40, July 23, 2021 (EDT)

Super Mario Odyssey
This is kind of carrying on from the recent agreement of how to handle Piranha Plant type enemies with what they are named in certain games. In Super Mario Odyssey, the name "Fishin' Lakitu" is not used at all, the game calls it simply "Lakitu". So what I'm saying is should we remove information of Super Mario Odyssey from this article and elaborate on the regular Lakitu article? I'm not sure of any other games where Lakitus with fishing rods are simply called "Lakitus", but the same could go with those.
 * See the above section. It should be that way for many other games as well. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:41, November 23, 2020 (EST)

Clean up this page
See above. The fishing pole has been adopted by normal Lakitus in many games starting with Super Mario Kart, to the point of being pretty much intrinsically linked. To be perfectly honest, the only items on this page should be:
 * Super Mario World
 * Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
 * Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (possibly, in the same manner Bloober Nannies or Para-Bombs appear as field enemies)
 * Super Smash Bros. Melee (and returns of that stage cameo)
 * Yoshi's New Island

Everything else should be merged to the Lakitu page, as that is what they are identified as in those games (such as SMK's manual and SMO's capture list). I'm open to suggestions on what else can stay or go.

Proposer: Deadline: September 13, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) - Per
 * 2) Per proposal.
 * 3) Per proposal, but I think the Super Mario Odyssey content should be mentioned.
 * 4) Just like how we handle Piranha Plants
 * 5) As far as I can tell, Fishing Lakitu = Lakitu with fishing pole, but Lakitu with fishing pole =\= Fishing Lakitu. This article thinks both are true and definitely needs a lot of trimming.
 * 6) Let's just make it clear that some normal Lakitus also use fishing poles on the Fishin' Lakitu article.
 * 7) This is just another Pirate Guy situation. "Fishin' Lakitu carries a fishing rod, so let's ramble on about every time Lakitus have been seen with fishing rods."