User talk:JacobH.5840

Signing
Hello, please remember to sign any comments you make on talk pages with ~ at the end. 07:22, September 19, 2020 (EDT)

Please do not post forum talk on wiki discussion pages like you did on Talk:Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury. If you want to chat about certain games, go to our forums. You're also still not signing your comments; please remember to do so or it's hard for users to know who posted it. 21:19, January 11, 2021 (EST)
 * The only sort of discussion that is allowed on talk pages is what to do with the article itself.

I'm sorry. I still don't know all the rules of the wiki, and I'm really trying to get used to them. Also, when you said I still needed to sign, are you referring to the SM3DW+BF talk page or the list of games talk page? Because I did sign the edits on the latter, and I signed at the end of this edit. Apart from the point, I'm really sorry, please take into account I've only been active for a short amount of time. I will try to stick to the wiki's rules in the future. Wait, actually, for some reason my edit signs say Eastern time, but I live in California, and haven't been out of state in years. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 22:17, January 11, 2021 (EST)


 * I was referring to the former, yes, but it looked like you just forgot that one time and I didn't notice you did sign in the latter, so that's why I crossed out my comment, sorry about that. 22:20, January 11, 2021 (EST)

Images
I realize you uploaded images of Flash games, but whatever is the closest game counterpart will do. You also need to pick a licensing template from the drop-down menu when uploading, in this case being game screenshot. Take a look back at the images you uploaded to see how they've been edited. 15:10, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
 * How do I change the license of the images once I've uploaded them? Also, when you say edited, do you mean edit the license or the image directly. If the latter is the case, then none of those images are edited. They are all raw screenshots. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 15:25, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
 * You can change the license after uploading by simply editing it in, like I did to the images, for example:

Licensing

 * The images themselves are not edited, only their information. 15:37, June 4, 2021 (EDT)

Ah ok. But how do I change them now that they're uploaded? Sorry. Forgot to sign. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 16:25, June 4, 2021 (EDT)

Please keep the above information in mind. Take a look back at your previous uploads for examples on what to add. For images you uploaded, you can still edit them by clicking the "edit" tab at the top of the page. 13:45, July 6, 2021 (EDT)

RE: Help in making a page
Hey, good to see you got your account back. Everything essential in a new article is covered in Manual of Style, but another way to get an idea for how the article should look is to look at other, similar articles (you can look at some of the articles on Category:Browser Games, like Superstar Shootout). Looking at that and going into detail:


 * Because it's a game, the name should be italicised (Yoshi's Egg Toss), and  is placed at the top.
 * The name in the first sentence is bolded (Yoshi's Egg Toss). The first sentences of the article usually provide general information about the game.
 * After that, you describe the game in detail; this can be a new paragraph, or better, create a "Gameplay" section by adding a header and the information under it. If the game is much more large-scale like Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze, you can even create more sections like "Levels", "Items" etc. If you have a lot of images, you can include a "Gallery" section (Help:Gallery might help), and if you want, you can include the gameplay video's URL under an "External links" section.
 * An infobox (the red box on the right side) is useful for highlighting some of the key details in one place, so that's something that would be worth including.
 * Finally, the article needs navigation templates and categories. As it's related to Yoshi's Island DS and it's a browser game, these go at the bottom:

01:04, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok! Thanks for letting me know! I'll get to work!--JacobH.5840 (talk) 11:43, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Well, the person who made the video I mentioned responded to my comment and according to him, he recorded the video before flash was discontinued and when there were ways of finding the European Nintendo Microsites. He has no URLs anymore, and he doesn't have it downloaded, so until we can find a way to find it, it seems that his video will be the only piece of media for it for a while. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 12:04, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Well, the page is complete, but how do I add a link to it on the List of Games article?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 13:47, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Just had to edit the link so it'd look like this: Yoshi's Island DS -- Yoshi's Egg Toss . Went ahead and did that for ya. 13:50, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok! Thanks!--JacobH.5840 (talk) 13:55, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Also, just asking, would it be ok if I made pages for all of the other flash games I mentioned in the discussion of the List of Games? There is about 20 of them, and they are official.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 14:25, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Yes. 16:05, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok then! When I finish them, what should I do?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 17:18, July 6, 2021 (EDT)

Hey, nice work on the articles. For image uploads, please remember to add a license and category as described above. If you're uploading straight from the editor, remember to add the following underneath the description:

Licensing
Replace "(game title)" with the corresponding game name and "game-screenshot" with something else if it's not a screenshot (see Help:License for the full list; alternatively, you may want to use the Special:Upload function). 21:13, July 6, 2021 (EDT)
 * Thanks! I only did a couple though, so I still have a lot to go, but I will work on the image licenses right after I finish this reply.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 21:49, July 6, 2021 (EDT)


 * No problem; be sure to check the history of your articles to see what fixes were made. Remember to italicise every game title, not just the one in the first sentence. 09:12, July 7, 2021 (EDT)
 * Got it. I'll be sure to do that for all of the other flash game articles. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 09:38, July 7, 2021 (EDT)

If possible, you may want to crop out parts of your images that aren't part of the game, as they're unnecessary and can be distracting. 23:14, July 21, 2021 (EDT)
 * Are you talking about a specific game where I didn't do that? Because I thought I already was. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:40, July 21, 2021 (EDT)
 * Several of your past uploads still have other windows and your taskbar present, including File:Melonmayhemtitle.png. 00:56, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ah. I'll go fix that. --JacobH.5840 (talk) 03:26, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Um, for some reason the title image for Mario Memory isn't changing to the cropped version, even though I uploaded the new cropped version and now I messed something up. Can you help me?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 03:58, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok, I fixed the bigger issue, but it's still not changing.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 03:59, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * After you upload a new version of a file, you need to clear your cache to see it (hit CTRL+F5). 06:55, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * What's the cache? I've never seen it.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 13:55, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Oh wait I just tried the CTRL+F5 trick and it worked, so I don't think I need anymore help with the images. Thanks for the help!--JacobH.5840 (talk) 14:00, July 22, 2021 (EDT)

Few more things regarding the content of your articles:
 * Try to avoid linking to the same subject multiple times in a single group of text; just once is enough (see Manual of Style). After linking to Mario, you don't need to link it every time he is mentioned after that.
 * When you do link, make sure it links to the article's name exactly, as we try to avoid redirect links (see Redirects), or it may lead to the wrong page. For example, Mini-Mario instead links to the technique in the Mario & Luigi series, when it should be Mini Mario (toy), and Toads should be Toad (species). In cases like this, the identifier (the part in parentheses) should be hidden in a piped link, which is done like so:  and   (format:  ). Gameboy Advance is also three words, not two (Game Boy Advance).
 * The reason there are genre links on certain articles is because the Genre page has a section on them (the # in the link links to a specific section, like "Role-playing"). If the Genre page doesn't have the section for the genre of your game, you don't need to link it (e.g. since there is no "Memory" or "Puzzle Rhythm" section, you don't need to type  or , just "Memory" or "Puzzle Rhythm" without the link is fine). If the genre is unclear, you don't need to add "Unclear", you can just leave it blank.

Finally, when uploading new files, you don't need to add all of the license, category etc. details afterwards, you can just add them altogether in the description when you upload, which works the same way. 22:27, July 22, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok. Thanks for the advice! I'll be sure to take it into account when finishing the other Flash/Shockwave game pages! --JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:52, July 22, 2021 (EDT)

I have a little bit of a problem. The next game I'm adding is called "Power Meter", but there's already a page on the wiki named "P-Meter" that's a redirect from Power Meter. How do I name this game? --JacobH.5840 (talk) 16:35, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
 * The game would then need an identifier, so the article would be named Power Meter (Flash game). 23:26, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok. Thanks.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 01:40, July 26, 2021 (EDT)

Um, I have a bit of a problem. You see, shortly before typing this, I finished another flash game page, but for some reason, in the infobox, the developers and publishers of the game aren't appearing, despite both of them being known. How do I fix this?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 15:38, July 28, 2021 (EDT)


 * The "developer=", "publisher=" etc. parts are the set parameters of the infobox (listed here), so they should be left alone and not changed or pluralised (even if there are multiple developers, publishers etc.), otherwise they're not recognised and therefore don't display. The release date should also be "released=", not "release date=". You can check the fixes to your articles by clicking on the "diff" links of other users' edits on the article's history pages . 22:41, July 28, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok. Thanks. I really appreciate it.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:19, July 28, 2021 (EDT)

Oh! I want to ask you about something: You see, the next 4 games I'm making pages for are part of a flash microsite called "Welcome to Greedville!", but I don't know how to make the page. Could you possibly tell me how to make a microsite page? I would really appreciate it.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:33, July 28, 2021 (EDT)


 * You just need to follow the Manual of Style, then how you present the info is up to you. Add an intro like usual, then add section(s) depending on the content (or even subsections - Help:Editing explains how, along with other useful code), and any relevant navigation templates and categories at the bottom. Since it isn't a game, you don't need to italicise the name or add the infobox and, and since it's a microsite, Category:Web would be an appropriate category. 07:30, July 29, 2021 (EDT)

Well, it's taken almost a month of work, but all 20+ Mario Flash/Shockwave games I have found have their own pages, the last one being made just before I started typing this. I would really appreciate if you could possibly add these to the list of games page, as that was where I first mentioned them. Also, some of these pages are incomplete, as I have not found out everything about them, so work on these pages will continue for some time. But otherwise, I'm glad that all of these games are now documented so other people can know about them! Also, what did you think when I mentioned that I found over 20 games not on the wiki? Just curious.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 19:17, August 1, 2021 (EDT)

RE: List of games
I can help if I have time, though it's easy to do yourself if you want to try. When you're editing the section, just add the following to the list (after the "| Unknown"s):

! 28
 * Mario Party 7 Bon Voyage Quiz
 * Unknown
 * Unknown

The |- indicates a new row and the ! and | are what goes in each column (number, title, release date, developer). Make sure nothing goes after the |} at the bottom of the section, otherwise it's outside of the table. 07:26, August 27, 2021 (EDT)
 * Well, I don't know if I'LL have time because I recently started school and it's taking up a lot of my time. If I have time, I'll try to put them in, but Idk when that will be.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 09:12, August 27, 2021 (EDT)
 * Also, I was wondering if it would be possible to create another table for Adobe Shockwave, since it and Adobe Flash are separate programs and a number of the games I pointed out are Shockwave games. In fact, someone already pointed this out in the List of Games page discussion.--JacobH.5840 (talk) 21:52, August 27, 2021 (EDT)
 * Yes, it just needs a new section. 22:10, August 27, 2021 (EDT)
 * Ok, thanks! One more question, though. You see, for the game Are You Smarter Than Mario, the developer is Mike Dobbins, who is likely an individual who was close to Nintendo, since I saw several other things like official Nintendo microsites also developed by him. My question is in the developer section of a row on the List of Games page, do I list him since the developer is confirmed or not since he's an individual person?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:51, August 27, 2021 (EDT)

Flash work
I'm impressed with your work on preserving these Flash games! It's super interesting and a fun rabbit hole of obscurity. I don't know how I got roped into it years after you but I've been working on the Camp Hyrule and Mario Party 4 (Flash game) articles extensively. Willing to help or collaborate with you on anything. There's a game I'm trying to track down called "Kremling Krunch" from the 1999 Camp Hyrule that I have a suspicion is just a renamed Kremling Krushin but unfortunately I have no way to check lol. Anyways, love your work, hope you come back to edit frequently!
 * Hey, thanks! Yeah, it sure is a rabbit hole. I know it's been a while since I really edited frequently, but I've gone through a very hard school year, so I didn't really have time. I'm hoping that with some breaks from social media in the future that I can get back to other things I've done, such as my work with Flash games. We'll have to see, though, since I just started my next school year. Again, thank you, and I'll be willing to accept any help or collaborate when I have the time! --JacobH.5840 (talk) 00:52, August 11, 2022 (EDT)