User talk:Son of Suns

Re: Patroller
Thanks! I'll keep up the good work! ;)

Thanks for the support, Son of Suns; meant to reply to your congrats subject yesterday. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 19:47, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Hello
I am new to this Wiki and I was wondering if we could be friends. How are you doing? -


 * I'm good, but busy with a lot o' things. --

Oh alright. What do you think about the Nintendo DSi?


 * Hmmm...I don't have much of an opinion on the subject. I don't know if I would ever get one - I mainly use my DS to play Game Boy Advance games...and Chrono Trigger. --

Oh. I recently imported one (Play-Asia) and it's actually not that bad. I just don't like that they got rid of the Game Boy Advance slot at the bottom. It's quite impressive with the DSiWare. -


 * I'm sure it's a nice piece of hardware, with the potential to create many innovative new ways to play video games. I just don't think I would allocate funds to purchase one. =) --

Do you think Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! will be good?


 * Hmmm...maybe. The Mario & Luigi series does a good job of taking the Mario mythos and playing with it to the extreme.  I've only seen one trailer, and it looks really interesting; however, the second title of any trilogy always trumps the third one. =P --  P.S. And please NO SPOILERS! =)

Mario (series)
I saw it. I haven't responded to it yet though because I was trying to fill in as many entries as I could tonight. :D I appreciate and value your opinions on the article; I didn't realize it was missing so much. (Despite being 98kb.) 21:36, 5 February 2009 (EST)
 * True. =P 22:03, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Hai there. :3
Yo, it's Ryan. :P How are you doing in this fine day? Why am I typing like... 12pm where I should be school right now? Actually, I'm typing this from the library during school! XP Anyway, I heard you are talking to Stooby about that LARGE article St00by had made. I admit, it's very large, has a lot of info; but it's missing something. The space in the air is the missing info while the rest of it has its pieces. Incase if you want to know my progress, here it is: A tad slow, I haven't done much in the wiki... maybe except delete about 40-50 images from that other day, when I was VERY furious about those piles of unused images! Oh, also, I made a list called "Raw Data". You can read more of it here. I was hoping that you would contribute the lists. :3 And finally, the test room I have is blanked out, now replaced with some of the experiments that may be used for my own purposes, or to support the wiki. ! I think I said too much. ^_^;; Anyway, here: User:RAP/test Please respond back. :P Heh, you rarely go into the chatroom eh? ;o

Mmmm, "all work and no play" huh? (walks away)

Enemy Template
Heyo, SoS. I'm doing good; just busy patrolling, as usual. :P How're you? Yeah, I think I can make that template. Sounds pretty easy. Though, I think I'll put it in my test page, just to make sure it's what you want. ;) 20:38, 8 February 2009 (EST)
 * Would you be able to upload the red star outlines for me? Because, I don't know where to get them. 20:48, 8 February 2009 (EST)
 * Those images are perfect! Though, I thought of an idea. If I uploaded the outline image under the name "BlankStar.png", I'd know of a way where you wouldn't have to type in the entire image name three times in the threat section. So, I'll do that real quickly so you can use the template with ease. =) 23:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
 * Never mind. I didn't realize the template was already created. =P 23:34, 8 February 2009 (EST)
 * Haha, that's alright. It seemed to work out just fine this way. ;) You're welcome! If you ever want another template, just lemme know. 23:42, 8 February 2009 (EST)
 * Sweet. Good luck with it! Those articles have been needing help for a while. =) 23:58, 8 February 2009 (EST)

The Great Hereafter
I just wrote an article for The Great Hereafter. My question is that in this episode, the subject of "Grandma Mario", Mario and Luigi's grandmother is brought up. Since she speaks from beyond the grave (through another character), I was wondering if that would still make her an implied character. Also, would she be seperate from Grandma Mia, due to her name actually being "Grandma Mario"? If you want to watch the episode for yourself to verify, you can see it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Eetlv2ado for part 1, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2JV7z3a-PI for part 2. --

Like my History Topic
This Proposal about the game titles is similar to what my class is learning about in History. Anyway, 2 things:

1. SInce it does not say on your page, I must ask - what country are you from? I presume it's not the US, based upon your Proposal? 2. Awesome User page. 2b. I don't see anything explicit on your page... 2c. It sucks being opposed by completely biased views, huh?

Template
Wow, that is gonna be a BIG template. Nonetheless, I think I can handle it. Just gimme an hour or so to make it. ;) The other ones shouldn't be too hard. 21:57, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Das ist Sehr Interessant
For some unknown reason, I wrote that header in German. On the topic of nationalities (I'm Australian, as my User page says in MASSIVE font), I was surprised you're from the US. I admire your courage shown by creating the Proposal, as you're basically going against your own people. Yeah, I find it very annoying seeing "color" and "favorite" everywhere.

Oh, I see. Well, I generally don't watch YT videos that are on people's User pages, unless the user actually describes why they're worth watching (and I only watch funny stuff).

I first learned about biases in History in the first year of high school. Yay for democracy. Better than communism, yup.

And... do you have a sister called Daughter of Moons?

Hey sorry to bother you but could you help me? I would like to know how to customize my signature, please tell me on my talk page, thanks.--&lt;COLT&gt; 00:08, 14 February 2009 (EST)
 * Hi SoS. The whois thing says you are on and I need sysop assistance. Can you delete Regulur mario? thank you.
 * BTW, I'm claymario with a name change. --

Thanks
I'm glad to hear I'm helping the community. I hope I can do more of it as I keep editing! :) Shiancoe 09:15, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * Ohai SoS. You deleted the Game Developers Choice Awards article, but if you deleted that, you should delete the other article I made which was a redirect. I apologize for creating that article. :D
 * K.

Thanks for your support and the tip about the numbers; I always appreciate helpful comments. The way I learned it was that numbers ten and below would be spelled out, and numbers 11 - 999,999 are written as numerals(i.e. "One million" is spelled out, not 1000000). I typically use numerals like 30 or 50 when the article is talking about HP or other in-game statistics(since the game lists them that way), but is that correct? I understand you're one of the most experienced users on this site. --
 * Hi, SoS. Please delete the nonsense page, R4. Thanks. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Re: So very Chewy...
Ah-HA! I figured it was something to do with the Magikoopa. Silly little guy. :P And thanks. :D

Possible sockpuppets
Hey, Son of Sons, can you check for the IP ranges of these three accounts:


 * Youwasnoob
 * Youwasnoob2
 * Youwasnoob3

The first one was permabanned for blatant spamming, and the other two are possibly sockpuppets (I'm not able to see the IPs from these guys so that I can make sure their IP range is "DENIED!!!" from coming back in here). Thanks. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 09:56, 17 February 2009 (EST)


 * Yeah, the original ban against the person was infinite, as I put in my explanation against him saying that they are permabanned from this site. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 10:18, 17 February 2009 (EST)
 * Sorry, thanks for telling me. You may want to rollback/undo my edits. I was actually going to create a proposal today. :) Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Ooops. Sorry also, for creating Super Mario 2, and having it redirect to itself. I meant it to redirect to Super Mario Bros 2. My mind dozed off. That has to be one of the most embarrassing things that has happened to be on the wiki. :D Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Proposal Extension
Is it possible to extend the deadline in case of a tie on such a disputed issue? It seems to me it would make more sense if more users could read both sides of the argument and contribute to the voting process in order to break a tie. Perhaps a 3 day extension would be good enough? --
 * I've read the message on the Main talk page you wrote, and understand that no extension is necessary anymore. But, do you think the extension idea could be a futuristic possibility in case of ties in proposals?

huh? a tie? what will happen now? Lu-igi board 05:03, 18 February 2009 (EST)
 * Okay gotcha. I think I'll poder on the thought of making a proposal to change the rules. Thanks for the input.
 * Hello, SoS. I was thinking of keeping Category:Luigi's Mansion as a category for everything Luigi's Mansion and not just the rooms. What do you think? The title is rather generic. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Good thinking. I'll use the tags. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Oh, and you restore the Mario spinoffs category, so we can put it in Mario golf, party, kart, articles? Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Ok. I'll try to change back the ones that I made differently from the image, and fix incorrectly labeled ones as well. --
 * Apologies for the proposal confusion. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

No problem! ;)


 * Hai, SoS. Can you delete pixis and block Luigi56? He's been spamming the wiki, and a warning and reminder has been issued to him . Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Sorry i meant Luigi52, not 56. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Re Name
Yes you are right about that I already changed my name two times but as I said I have problems with it out side the wiki if you could plz change it that would be nice Son of Suns but if not ... then thats ok its just I really needed it change ok. -- 19:46, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Well its is personol but I can tell you that other people out side the wiki dont like the name, and changing it will help me a lot Son of Suns. -- 20:07, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Ok thank you Son of Suns thanks ok. :) -- 20:25, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Yes of corse silly i am sure. :) -- 21:12, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Thanks Son of Suns. :) -- 21:44, 21 February 2009 (EST)
 * Ohai, Sun of teh Suns. :D I just noticed that Mario5x made a welcome template in the template namespace as Template:Mario5x. Should this be moved in the user namespace? Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Son of Suns is something wrong? -- 14:39, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Oh ok so the sprites are ok? -- 14:44, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Oh ok and just in case you did not get what i meant I meant that If its ok too have them like that ok. :) -- 14:54, 24 February 2009 (EST)

And how do you do that? -- 15:01, 24 February 2009 (EST)

I was a total fool

 * facepalm*. I don't know what I was thinking, but I tried to log back into my account, only to find that I could not remember my password. When I first registered I typed in my e-mail address, and I clicked to send it a new password around 4 hours ago, but it still hasn't come, and I decided that something must have wrong. I've heard there are some wikis where administrators can see the number of characters in a user's password, but do you have any hints about what it could be, or where to get them? (The last thing an ex-Wikipedia sysop could do is forget his password. Wow, what a dumb guy I am.) By the way, this is a (hopefully) temporary alternate user I created under "Shiancoe2". It's not a sockpuppet, is what I'm saying.
 * Hey, SoS. I found the solution to the problem. Just rename Shiancoe to an unused name and rename Shiancoe2 to Shiancoe. Then, tell Steve to run this: Usage: php reassignEdits.php  [--force]

 : Name of the user to assign edits to  --force : Reassign even if the target user doesn't exist maintainence script. Hope this helps :D Yoshario'''
 * Sorry, I can't. Only sysops can edit other user's userspace. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Steve sent me a new password for me, so it's all good now. =)

Conker's Planet
Hey, do you happen to know which planet Conker's Pocket Tales took place on? Because, you can see the planet in the ending of the game. 14:04, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Proposal Deletion
Hello, Son of Suns. Now, you have recently deleted my proposal on adding links to the Video game references page. I was actually unaware that we already allow the links in the articles, sorry about that. But, I'm coming here with the question, Would a Pipe Project be more appropriate? It would be a rather time-consuming, large addition to the Wiki, as I now think that the links should encompass all of the "References" pages. I believe the only page that does include the links is the Animation References article. Would you agree that a (minor) Pipe Project, or any sort of related idea, would be best for the issue I've come up with? If not, it's totally fine, and I'll try to add the links myself.
 * Thanks a bunch! :) I'll prepare the Project now.

Hi
Just dropping by :P Cool userpage. Luigifan123

Hi! ^o^
Can you block the user: R.O.B. 128? he's making rude commentaries please n,n

Okay, thank you very much!! n_n

Hi again
Hi again SoS how are you doing lately? :) -- 18:14, 26 February 2009 (EST)


 * Hmmm...pretty good, but super busy as always. Haha. --

Re: The page
Ah, OK thanks for your help anyway; but my Raw Data page is on hiatus due to personal reasons, and the fact the tables need to be organized. D: I wonder if you could help me make a new table... :3 |I still have many sercets within me, but I didn't put the links in the list because of table organization. :<

Hi, mind checking out RENAME? I have a rename request I'd like to put. 19:38, 26 February 2009 (EST)

Thank you! :D 19:46, 26 February 2009 (EST)

ARRRRGH! Safari! Froze! To death! Forced to close it while WRITING THIS DOWN! D: Anyway... <_< I'll make this story short. I see that your interested at one of my secrets. xP For the tables, it's more than just tables I'm afraid. I realized that there is more info to add in by sentences rather than listing down like a trivial feel. Some problems I have is how do I list down the gaming sites w/o writing unnecessary sentences on all of them? Blah blah blah, change title of the page to "Raw Data Mining 101"... argh! Unfortunately, due to the crash of Safari. I don't feel like typing this long as opposed to the original writing before it crashed. Sorry. SAFARI! APPLE! ...ur gonna be hunted down... BY THE BUGS! -______-

Re: Warning
I knew Birdoshi hasn't changed. She asked you to block me? If that's not trolling, then I have no idea what is. I'm sorry about my actions earlier today, but you must understand, the users here will continue to deliberately egg me on and cause me to personally attack them (see Birdoshi's comment above). The only thing stopping me from doing something evil to her is the tight adminship here. What I'm trying to say is, maybe if you listen to my side of the story, this could be resolved. Please respond as soon as possible, and thank you for your time. □R.O.B. 128□ 21:03, 26 February 2009 (EST)
 * Hi SoS. I've been a little inactive, but I don't plan to let that happen again. Howzit going? Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Request
Hello, Son of Suns. I was wondering if you could possibly transfer my subpages (from User:Palkia47) to my current accout, User:The_Blue_Dragon. Oh, and one more thing. This is NOT a sockpuppet accout. I forgot my password on both of my previous accounts, so now I'm starting with this one. So, if its possible, please transfer my original subpages to my new accout, please. :P --The Blue Dragon 10:40, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Well, at least this major one out of the few subpages I originally had would be fine. User:Palkia47/Guitar Hero 3 is the link for the subpage. Oh, and do you think you could possible rename me (I have the new name on the rename page, by the way). Thanks SoS! :D --The Blue Dragon 12:40, 6 March 2009 (EST)

Re:Congrats!
Oh! Well, this is a surprise. I uh, don't know what to say. ...Is there anything specific I should know? 16:26, 2 March 2009 (EST)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/x3_CHA/Anime/Pita-Ten/misha3.jpg Hi Son of Suns! Can you restore my sub- pages?

Yes ^__^;  click here:  http://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Search?search=Birdoshi

Nope ^,^; click here:

http://www.mariowiki.com/User:Birdoshi/Welcome

http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User:Birdoshi/Favorite_Videos&action=edit

What about my past talk pages? 'o'

^o^
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8696/misha39dz.jpg   Yes!!!! n,n  thank you very very very very very very very very much!!!! ^,^ :D   Keep up the good work ;)

Sorry four asking this...
But where was it mentioned or brought up to change the names of all the articles. They're no longer their American names, but different names. I don't know if it's either a European name change or an Australian name change, but... Well, anyway, where was this discussed? I was going to ask you why you were doing this, but I think it's better to ask where this was initially brought up. - Smashgoom202 18:03, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Sockpuppetry
Hey, SoS! I have noticed that there might be sockpuppets on the loose, because if you look in the newuser log, you will see that the users created have almost the exact same usernames. So it might be a good idea to give them a good checkuser to see if they are duplicate accounts. Thanks, Yoshario'''

Post Proposal
I had left a message on stooben's page but he's been inactive lately. anyways, I made the proposal about the sm64 sub levels and it went unanimous. What happens now? do I move all of the sub levels now? just making sure before I do anything drastic. Thanks 17:32, 6 March 2009 (EST)
 * Yep I was the origional proposer. ok thankyou.

Mushroom King in the Film
Hey, I've been meaning to ask someone about this, but since the children's book of the film gives Dinohatten's king's name as "King Bowser," doesn't that mean we should create an article for him separate from the Mushroom King? 00:29, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Mario Series FA
I was wondering if you would mind crossing out the requirements of your oppose that I have put into the article? (Ex: DDR: Mario Mix, Super Princess Peach, etc.) That way I don't lose track of what I've put in there, and so I don't miss anything important. =) 12:01, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
 * Thanks! 12:49, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Wikidump
I thought we were aloud to dump from other wikis, as long as we were to rewrite it. Isn't that what is for? Yoshario'''

Oh, I see now. Thanks :D Yoshario'''

Sorry...
OK,here's the story: said he needed a bit of help because he felt he was becoming "A tad unpopular".That was via a different wiki.I went over the top and started creating different users under the names of "Pigmask Soldiers".That was sockpuppeting,and I'm rlly sorry.I was only on this wiki 4 that reason and that's just as bad,so I'll just go back to my profile and get that IP addresse.(Or do I have to?)

Re: Advice
That actually sounds like a pretty good idea. I could probably start working on Mario's later today, or at least help you with one when I get the time, since I'll be out until later in the day. Information about these families is scattered across the wiki as it is, when it could (and should) be all in one place. --

A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE!
I heard that you're extreamly good at finding errors on this wiki.(Good Job!) so I'm going to say this: I have created what I would call an "Adament User" as it does nothing,but serves as a different log-in for me.You may have noticed it has included my username,but was entered twice due to a typing error.I DO NOT PLAN TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS USER! I AM NOT SOCKPUPPETING! A friend of mine said you was good at finding out things like that.Please pass this message onto any other members of the wiki who are the people who find out errors. Thanks-

A.V.I.M.2
Eh? Oh,it's only because of two things: NOTE:You blocked the new User.DON'T WORRY! I UNDERSTAND WHY!
 * 1) A backup account
 * 2) Some sort of User Page that I can do whatever I like with,without changing my own.

AHA!
Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!!!! THAT was what I THOUGHT I was doing.Phew,I screwed up a bit,huh? OK,if you can,delete my "Fancy Stuff" accounts.BUT HOW DO I CREATE A SUB-PAGE? Teach me that first!

NOTE.2:Geez,I should've asked before I did anything,huh?

Aaaaaaaand it's done!
Thanks for you're help there! You got credit!

CHECK THIS OUT!

Birdo/Bird
Oh wow, you're right. It was only a few years ago that it was a theory. I haven't kept up on that. And Super Paper Mario was realized recently enough for there to be a connection rather than a retroactive technocality. Good catch. Redstar 15:55, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Dude...
did u see the main page? wat is up with that?!?!?!?!

owait u just fixed it. good.

vandal?
bam050196 is deleting info about crankys existence in arcade games. please warn him. I had to use ctrl c and ctrl v to undo a massive edit.

Yeah, I issued a reminder and he's still at it again. --

dang...


 * I'll keep my eyes open. --

my proposal
ok, we can add any battle info there, but wat about making a page 4 all the rest of the beta enemies with a link 2 drill bit

Ok, I get it now, thanks :D Yoshario'''

pakkun flowerr
is it ok if i refer to it as piranha plant in the template? owait, lemme fix quick


 * No, Pakkun Flower is used, although you could change the link to Piranha Plant. But the displayed name needs to be Pakkun Flower. --

hows this?


 * Now when you put your cursor over the word Pakkun Flower, Piranha Plant will show up. --

A message 4 you that DOESN'T include needing help.
I heard you like Snake's codecs.Wouldn't it be great if everyone got a "Solid Snake" box and a codec machine?

What Wario100 put on Funky Kong was immaturely lulz-worthy and weird.


 * I would love a cardboard box, but I'm not sure if I would want codec nanomachines. I don't want the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo having access to my brain! --  P.S. Spammers are lame.

Forums
Please check your inbox on the forums. 22:32, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

why did u delete Cookie????? ForestGuy 14:34, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


 * It was a poorly written stub article that did not contribute significantly to the wiki. Also, I'm not sure an article on "cookie" is necessary if we have an article about Yoshi Cookies. --

There are also other cookies so let's make it be a categoryForestGuy 14:40, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


 * Sure, that's fine, I guess. --

Luigi's Mansion
I Know that you are familiar with my proposal about merging articles (like what I did for the tick tock article). Well I was going to start with the Luigi's mansion article but when I looked at all the disambiguation links, I felt a little overwhelmed. I'm gunna try and organize it the best I can so could you sorta take a look when I finish? Thanks. 17:35, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


 * Hey Sos. I guess I misunderstood your comment on my proposal(that makes me feel like an idiot). I'm really sorry about that. But thanks alot for fixing my mistake. I had a feeling something was wrong but I just didn't know what it was. But again thanks so very much. 14:59, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Spammer
I was just told by a random guest in the chat that on the Wario article, that at the bottom of the page there was inside every template the phrase "i want to kill myself D'=" and two ASCII pictures of a middle finger and..... something else rather innapropriate, I no longer see them, yet despite this there is nothing in the recent changes about it being reverted. I also noticed that these ASCII pictures looked just like the ones used by Smoke to blank one of Cobold's talk page archives, do you know anything about this?
 * I saw it too on the Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games page. You can't find it when editing a article or in the history. Only when you're not logged in you can see a middle finger and the other trash. Can you do somthing against it Son of Suns?

Hello
Hi SoS I have not talked to you for some time now, I just stoped by to say hi and stuff but how have you been doing? -- 10:36, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

Whoa, you beat me to the punch!
I was just dealing with giving Dayntycup6‎ the permaban! Seriously, the guy made me sick big time. But I see that you already took care of it. :P --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 21:43, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

Thank-you
Thank-you for telling me the answer to my proposal, Son of Suns

Hello!?!
Hi Son of Suns!!! i'm a new colaborator in here and i want to make a good start with the most users i can!!! and i have a funny/weird question... don't hate me for this... What are exactly the Bourocrats? i have seen that you are one but as the silly new boy i am hehe i don't know what's that!!! Well i must say bye for now!!! Castle Toad 19:57, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

?
2257 brought this to my attention. Why exactly did you demote yourself? Was it because of that comment on my forums? 00:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

The inevidable will come...
...and there's no denying it! What I mean is that I'm willing to bet your proposal about using the First Offical English Title for games will be attempted to be overturned. Since I am now retired, I won't know when this happens, but I like things the way they are now because it is a compromise. So when a proposal comes trying to make things U.S. dominant, (I'm from the U.S., so don't think I'm against them, I'm just joking) please contact me here http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Enigmatic_Mr._L or here http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Go_Mario%21 so I can make my vote. If you don't remember or just don't feel like it, that's fine because my vote probably won't make a difference anyway.

Response
Look at my talkpage for your answer about the Yellow Bandinero art. It WON'T face deletion if you look at the source I ripped it.

Spam
Excuse me, I noticed that the wiki has been vandalized with some crude images in the templates can you do something about this?

-Link&#39;s Shadow 09:08, 4 May 2009 (EDT)