User talk:Bowser Jr And Tom The Atum/1

Hi. My user doesn't work. I will always be at the Club Penguin Wiki if you need me. My username there is Johnny 115. I am an addict to Club Penguin and the wiki. If you like Club Penguin, I am a CP expert. Not that much of a Mario one. :D. The cool stuff I need to tell will be too Club Penguiny!

Club Penguin
Yes, I am Mrbluebeak there.

Userpage
Sorry, I'm not on the Club Penguin Wiki, and if you're having trouble creating your userpage, it's because you're not autoconfirmed yet; you need to be on here for a week and make at least 10 edits first...

19:27, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Okay

19:32, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

OK, maybe I'll check it out sometime, I'm kind of busy at the moment though... :)

19:43, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Okay, sure! Here's my friend userbox:

When you do become autoconfirmed, make a userbox tower on your userpage and put that in it... :)

20:10, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Well, anyone has the ability to create a userbox tower as far as I know...but again, one must become autoconfirmed first...

20:14, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

It's MEEEEEEEEEE
Hey. It's me, Chill! :D I didn't know you edited here. --This user is awesome and I have fury. So, Ciao! 20:11, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Me too :D I'm on Sleet. --This user is awesome and I have fury. So, Ciao! 20:20, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Video
I think you are right. I will delete.

No I Don't. I don't know anything about it.

Club Penguin
Hi Tom The Atum just so you know my sister is on Club Penguin. She is called Crackers5 have you seen her on there? I play the puffle launch on it with her.--Yoshidude99 11:59, 5 April 2011 (EDT)

Well I don't know much about the servers but she goes in the Pet Shop a lot to play the Puffle Launch.--Yoshidude99 12:03, 5 April 2011 (EDT)

I now have an account on Club Penguin! I am not very good at it though.--Yoshidude99 03:50, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

No
I can't because my Mii is my real name. Also, I have a shop on my userpage. -- SuperYoshiBros 20:43, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

I would probably start a new profile. -- SuperYoshiBros 20:47, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

Okay
Will send to HP, LM96 and CPM. -- SuperYoshiBros 21:05, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

Got replies from CPM and LM96...

CPM's response:

I don't care what nonsense he has to say. Just tell him that he's being ignorant, thinking the world is around him, and that he's welcome to come back and be banned. -- ClubPenguinMaster Happy Easter  01:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

LM96's response:

Nothing I can do about it at this point, unless he wants this wiki punished by U.S. law. I already knew he was under COPPA since July 2010.

As I am turning 15 next month, I can easily tell that the only people who dislike or are concerned with COPPA are mainly the only people who are affected by the law itself (those who are under 13), and I'm pretty sure that Johnny's block shows it well. -- LordMaster96  01:27, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. :( -- SuperYoshiBros 21:38, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

I dunno. I don't have it. :| -- SuperYoshiBros 09:11, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 * And why should I unblock you? BagOStuff 17:33, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Yo
Zup zup zup? It's meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! --Lm34gt45 09:50, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

Hiya!
Wazzup?! Itz me. I just wanted to say that i'm sorry that andrew banned you. I also hope that we're still friends, and that you'll come back to the CPW when your block expires. You shouldn't hate the wiki, because they had to block you, or else we all would've gotton punished. Talk to ya later.

P.S. I don't have the same name as on the CPW, but it is close. Mario kid 12:26, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

hi
Well ok. I didn't know since the image didn't link to anything.:/. Anyways, it's not like any image you find on Google will be a better quality image you know.:(--

Thanks
Thanks, but I think you should mark the CP pictures as your personal images because they may be deleted! 09:42, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Put. That should work! 09:45, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

CP Template
Listen you don't need to create a userbox template for Club Penguin. I already made you one by using the userbox template.

DK Photo
That photo is a duplicate and we don't need it. We already have one, so don't put it on pages. 09:59, 28 April 2011 (EDT) 6th? 10:01, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

OH....EM...GEEEEEE!
YOU GOT UNBLOCKED ON CPW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D -- SuperYoshiBros 18:27, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

Yay!
JOHNNY JOHNNY JOHNNY! Seahorseruler just unblocked you on the CPW!!! He's SOOOOOOO AWESOME! Mario kid 18:44, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

PIs
You have more than 4 personal imges. Get rid of your least favorite so you have 4.

Hey
Bad news: CPM re-blocked you on CPW. Apparently, Sea only unblocked you because he saw no proof, but CPM provided proof and blocked you again. Sorry :(

--Awesome335 10:06, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

Umm
I don't remember telling you mine but I can't race due to renovations in my basement! 12:05, 30 April 2011 (EDT)
 * Yeah, definitely. 12:10, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Polish
Unfortunately, the reason that it isn't displayed on the page on which you tried to put it is because the wiki does not support it.
 * It's not forbidden; for some reason, the wiki just does not have it as one that it supports. See here for the ones that are. If you want, you could make a proposal to add that language to our coverage. To do that, go here and read the section titled "How To."

My code is
My code is 0775-8604-1299. 17:13, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

I will make a room. 20:16, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Names in Other Languages
Can you undo any edits where you used a translator to translate the article name and then put the translated name on the article? Why? Because that's an unofficial name. Most of the time, there isn't an exact translation, and using an internet translator will screw up the translation. --Reversinator 18:05, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Re:
Your proposal has been added to the proposals page! Scroll down to the bottom to see it; I think it's a pretty good idea myself.

Umm...
i'm gonna check on wat LMs proposal means. also, wat did u say? and last, i would stay on this wiki, as it is petty interesting, but cp is my thing. Sorry. Mario kid 20:42, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Edit:Actually, LMs policy just means that people can still be banned, even if they don't break a policy. They can only be banned if 75% of the administration approves though. He made it because some users are a "nuscience" even without breaking a policy. Mario kid 21:42, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Where Oofie came from
Oofie is a fictional character I made so hhe lives in a fictional place. He lives in Oofland, Bookland. -- 07:49, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

Also I'm trying to work on my mainspace. -- 07:49, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

Userspace Warning
.

CPW Update
Bacon777, a sockpuppet of Ozone101 (who you might remember) is back on the wiki, but nobody but me has caught on yet it seems. The admins are trying to pass a new policy to remove the PoTM without a vote, since they say that people who do not deserve to get nominated are being nominated. Here is the conversation so far:

LM96: The POTM is possibly ending on May 29, 2011.

Sequence Of Events:

1. LordMaster96 wants the system of the Penguin of the Month changed up due to the fact that users who don't really have a good reason are getting nominated. 2. Seahorseruler wants to get rid of it completely 3. LordMaster96 agrees with Seahorseruler. 4. ClubPenguinMaster agrees - by this point a majority in administration has been reached 5. Bacon777 agrees 6. NickelbackFan37 agrees.

Chill: How about admins nominate them?

Cp kid: I agree with Chill, because then there won't be the same people nominated, like LM said.

Bacon: Just about everybody has been nominated at some point. I can't speak for the admins, but I don't think they're gonna reverse their decision.

Me (Awesome): can't see why we need to get rid of this!! Everyone who has won has one for a good reason! Why can't we just have the administrators nominate? What's wrong with that? I understand that users without a good reason are being nominated, but the fate if the PoTM shouldn't rest on the fact that people who do not have a good reason get nominated, it should rest on the fact that the people who don't have a good reason don't win! Sure, people get nominated without a good reason, but do they win? No, because there is someone with a GOOD reason who always beats them! You can nominate all these people without a good reason, but see if they win! And I am sure that I can trust the administrators to nominate people with a good reason!

Bacon: Like I said before, the ADMINS most likely WON'T reverse their decision. And 3/5 admins agreed to get rid of it. They are getting rid of it. Gezz.

Chill: Maybe us users could make our own PoTMs.

Me (Awesome): Bacon, I will remind you once again: Remember what happened to the No wiki-games policy! They were going to delete all of our missions, but did they? No, because we opposed it a lot! For example, in Egypt, when they got rid of Mubarak! If you protest enough, you get your way!

Bacon: 3 admins plus 2 other users (including ME) agreed. All protesting does is cause a big fight and screw up the wiki. If that happens, blocks WILL be handed out. I assure you. Please, don't try to protest. If the admins say it's gone, it's gone. No doubt. Geez, just stop. OK?

Cooldude: Instead of removing the system ENTIRELY, why not just make it so admins can only nominate people?

Me (Awesome): 1. I agree with CK, Cooldude and Chill. 2. I will remind you of the No Item Articles Policy a couple years ago. NOW look where we are!

Cooldude: I remember the no items policy. I think it got rejected, though. I'm not quite sure how that happen, as I joined when the policy was removed.

Me (Awesome): The policy was rejected, as only 2 users supported it, if I remember. Those were TurtleShroom and was it Brick6000?

Bacon: Nickbackfan and I's votes didn't go towards it. Can't you see the sequence of events? Before we agreed, a majority was already REACHED with the admins.

Tigernose: I disagree. I'm sorry, but why wasn't I informed of this? I'm still here you know, it's not like I quit permanently. I don't think it's fair for the PoTM to be removed. People are being nominated regularly for good reasons and it's a great way to recognize achievements on this wiki. There was no harm for it being on, so why would you want to take it off? There is still evident value in it even if you don't see any.

Hat Pop: s for the POTM, I think we're starting to run out of nominees, so that's why people are just choosing at random- I don't pay attention to the voting much (usually because it's hard to decide), but it would be kind of weird to see it go.

LM96:    Perhaps, but I'm not for the nomination reasons. At the top I did say I wanted to change it up, and here's what I would thought of changing:

1.Nomination notice (reason) right after where the "nominated by " is. 2.Nomination reason must be approved by an admin (unless the user is nominated by an admin) - if most admins disapprove of it, the nomination is removed entirely. 3.Remove the "against" - it's not being used.

Bacon: Uh, Tiger, there was a vote on IRC. You weren't there. From what I know, the admins aren't gonna reverse their decision. I'm not an admin, but that's what I think is happening.

Hat Pop: There was? I was never involved- let's set up a vote on this page, that way people who did not participate in this "vote" may voice their opinions.

Bacon: Oh yeah. Sorta a vote, well, really, just admins agreeing, plus me and Hal. Lordmaster did a great job list the events up a bit on the page. Sorry, didn't mean to say it was a 'vote'.

NBF: Actually - the decision can be changed. As LM said, there could be a few things we could revamp. I agreed about the original decision yesterday because of the unanimous vote.

Cooldude: So we're having a vote?

Tigernose: Oh okay thanks for telling me about the IRC vote. The thing is though, I still check the wiki for new messages. If there is a vote, I'm an admin, please just leave a message and I'll go on IRC. Especially a vote that involves something I made myself. I didn't create the Penguin of the Month, but I completely revived it (it used to be a crappy vote that had tons of cheating and no structure at all, and no descriptions or anything) so it's not nice seeing your own work get removed without even being told about it :(

Also, Lordmaster96 has some good ideas. Hopefully me and the supporters of this can veto this and change it fittingly to some suggestions, like LM's awesome ones.

P.S After reading the edit conflict, Hat Pop said something very true. The admins weren't even notified. Don't do this, administration. Don't try and get something to succeed by intentionally preventing other people who should have a say from having one.

Cooldude: I agree, and besides that, we can't just have a vote on the IRC, we need to have a real vote and not just a couple of users on the IRC voting for it to be removed or not. We need like a polldaddy vote on the club penguin wiki blog or something. Nobody informed me there was going to be a vote either, Tigernose.

I'm not complaining, I am saying that we really need a vote system that's not on a chatroom.

Me (Awesome): The only reason it was unanimous was because nobody else was notified!

Cp kid: If this is now a vote, then I say we DON'T GET RID OF THE POTM!

Vote Results so Far:

For:

1. CPM: We are running out of users to nominate for PotM. Plus, all the qualifications of the nominees are qualifications everyone has. Lots of edits - Hal, LM, Sea, HP, LMGT, and I. Reverting vandalism - Vandalism is a common thing throughout wikis. Etc, etc, etc...

2. Seahorse: POTM is too much work for something so worthless.

3. Ben: I second what Seahorse says.

Against:

1. Chill

2. Cp kid: I want the PoTM to stay!

3. Cooldude

4. Tigernose: As I explained on IRC, there is nothing wrong with keeping. I enjoy seeing the accomplishments of other users and it's important to recognize the hard-working users and their contributions to the website. We should not be ignoring these, and we should be appreciating them. If you have any problem with how it works, just suggest some new things then! No need to close it down, there's no harm in it being up. LM96 had some great suggestions to improve it, which we might use afterward.

5. TurtleShroom: I had expressed IRC permission from CP Master to cast a grandfathered vote. As always, Strom casts for anti-change. Commies.

6. Drpepper: PoTM should stay on here.

7. Me (Awesome): I fail to see why this is necessary and furthermore, why Chill and Nando are not good candidates.

Comments:

LM96: If the POTM stays, I will not agree with the fact that it stays the way it is. It either changes or it goes.

CPM: I agree with LM. I still support that it should go though.

NBF: Best if changed rather than deleted, but I respect everyone's opinions.

Cooldude: There are tons of active users on the club penguin wiki we could choose from. We are not running out of users to nominate. And it's not "hard work for nothing". If you are working hard then it's not for nothing.

LM96: Yes, there are tons of users, but we don't nominate random people. That just doesn't make sense.

Chill: Like I said before, then the ADMINS would nominate people!

Me (Awesome): LM96: If you can give me at least ONE example of a "random person who didn't deserve to be nominated," then i will consider your opinion.

Chill: Based on comments made on this page, I think this is how people will vote:

For: CPM, Seahorseruler, Bacon, NBF

Against: Tigernose, Chill, Cp kid, Cooldude, Awesome

Neutral: Hat Pop, LM96

LM96: I don't care which way POTM goes, but if it stays, users should be nominated for better reasons. Not to offend anyone, but the two nominated this month shouldn't even qualify.

This is a list of qualities a POTM winner should have:

If you look at the list of winners, you'll notice that several months, there wasn't a winner. This was because probably nobody did something important enough to deserve a POTM status for that particular month. In the future, we should only nominate a certain user if they did something that helped the wiki in a big way. Editing a lot won't be a good reason, but here are qualities a user should have to earn a POTM status:


 * Editing: improving, expanding articles to make it more complete and to match the Manual of Style.
 * Vandals: warn them, report them, and revert their edits. I haven't seen a lot of warnings being handed out or vandalism being reported after reverts!
 * Community-based: if they edit bad, undo their edit and show them some key points on how to edit as well as to show them the MoS. Being kind can also be a good reason, but it cannot be the sole reason for nomination.
 * You can also be a good POTM by showing improvement in your editing, asking frequent questions to admins and then improving your edit quality then, or even suggest an idea for a to-do list project. Be part of the community!

I was nominated for September 2010 POTM probably because in July I implemented the Early Unblock Policy, and in August I started working on the new to-do list, cleaning up many articles, on trivia, image quality and expanding articles. At the time I also had a really good positive and dealt with a lot of vandalism (before promoted to admin I undid and reported a lot - maybe a reason for my nomination for admin in the first place).

Remember, we don't need a winner each month!

Tigernose: You have some great suggestions in here. You are right in that the criteria should be revised and redefined. The criteria you mentioned above were great. Now instead of saying that the people who get nominated now don't deserve it, we should advertise these criteria so we can get people on an editing drive. Remember the infobox overhaul? Tons of people worked with that, and a few got PoTM for it. And yes, your contributions do not have to be in the month you were/want to be nominated in.

If I can find my to-do list again, we start some more editing drives. Now where did it go...?

Tigernose: Lol just found out it's being actively used. Silly me :P Thought it went out of action.

Me (Awesome): And, based on the criteria above, both Chill and Nando are editing a LOT, and they both often undo IP vandalism/spam! They are both GREAT users, which is why I have not voted yet!! It's too hard for me to choose!

'''So, this is how things are playing out! I will ask LM96 if your say would count here! If so, what do you think?'''

--Awesome335 14:26, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

About the age thingy
They aren't doing it to be a pain. It's for protection. Although it is annoying when people end up encountering it. :/ -- SuperYoshiBros 21:35, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

I don't want to tell you. That doesn't mean I do, though. -- SuperYoshiBros 21:42, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

PS Orange is an awesome color :P -- SuperYoshiBros 21:42, 1 May 2011 (EDT)