Talk:Paper Mario: The Origami King

About the notice at the top
Not the upcoming notice, the one that says ""The Origami King" redirects here. For information about the eponymous villain, see King Olly." Should that be a disambig? (Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, I'm just not sure what the place to ask would be) 11:59, May 18, 2020 (EDT)
 * "The Origami King" is more likely to refer to the game as it is visibly attached to it. King Olly is just King Olly, with The Origami King being a second name he goes by. A disambig may happen later, but for now, it works as it is. 12:02, May 18, 2020 (EDT)

Korean title romanization
It's not "Peipeo Malio Jongijeobgi King". It should be "Peipeo Mario Jong-ijeopgi King". The reason I'm saying this here is because I can't edit the main page. --GarfLarf (talk) 22:19, June 8, 2020 (EDT)


 * You should probably be able to edit the page now. Wait... do you mean the Main page or the Names in other languages section? DarkNight (talk) 13:54, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

Chargin' Chuck?
I have watched the trailers a few times already, but where exactly do Chargin' Chucks appear? I had difficulty navigating the websites so I don't know if they're on there. Mario Sakuraba (talk) 17:10, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * One can be seen in the corner of this artwork that is found on the North American website for the game. -- 17:17, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
 * A few are found in the Spa of Purification in Shangri-Spa. I don't know any other places where Chargin' Chucks are seen. Chompers 1:37, August 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Not to be rude, but this discussion was from a month before the game came out.

So, what about the leaked plot?
Should we add content about the plot now that the game has been leaked? - AwdryFan1997 (talk) 09:05, July 13, 2020 (EDT)

Ice Vellumental
So I just watch all the velluemntals boss battles and for some reason this pages says that the ice velumental is a tiger when clearly it looks like a polar bear and the toad crowd mention it as a polar bear I dont know if the japanes version names it as a tiger but in the english it shows it as a polar bear


 * I'm not familiar with the in-game details, but it may be inspired by the Byakko, which is a mythical white tiger. MarioComix (talk) 19:30, July 16, 2020 (EDT)


 * Yeah that was me who put that there. It reminds me how the Japanese Mario releases doesn't call Mario's "tail form" (called Tail Mario in Japanese releases of Mario games featuring that) form "Raccoon Mario" which is in the English release. However I would like to know if he is a white tigeer in the Japanese version or still a polar bear? --KingGeoshiKoopshi64 (talk) 23:46, July 17, 2020 (EDT)

Trivia
Please mention that this is the first Mario RPG game where you don't fight Bowser whatsoever.


 * There is no differences section yet, but once that's made, that should be added. 20:44, July 17, 2020 (EDT)

Bestriary
Is there any telling of when enemy stats of this game will be added on here? I know it may be a while, but how long does it normally take? Keyblade Master (talk) 19:58, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * The game just came out, but someone would have to dedicate themselves to diving into the game files and compiling everything in a way that is viewable on the wiki. 20:02, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
 * Wow it's been awhile since I've been on, but with the release of Origami King, I may dedicate myself to organizing information for the bestiary. Maybe. I've got the time to do it, but motivation is another thing. I'll see how things go and start jotting down enemy types, where they appear, possible health range (until something more official is discovered), and other details that I can observe. Just started playing. 16:09, August 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * Hey, glad to see you back, man ^^ 20:40, August 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * Hey! I'm almost done with the red streamer and so far I'm getting some good ideas on the HP for enemies, narrowing it down through trial and error. So far I've got exact numbers on Swoop, Shy Guy, Paragoomba, and Koopa Troopa. Others I only have a range for. For example, Goomba's can be KO'd at 6 dmg, but so far that's the lowest amount of damage I've been able to deal. I'm also keeping a table on weapons durability, accessories, items, useful items, and all the stuff in the museum. Some of these are already represented in the PMOK related articles, but I feel some may not have all the neccessary info. 19:35, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
 * Seems like weapon durability may be random, I'm getting too many conflicting numbers to accurately track it. Additionally I am now solely focused on the bestiary. 01:06, September 1, 2020 (EDT)

Genre
Isn't the genre labeled as "Action-adventure" and not "RPG?" --Crafty Potatoes (talk) 17:37, July 20, 2020 (EDT)

Bestiary Table
Mind if I turn the enemy bestiary into a table? I feel that it would compact the article, in terms of length, greatly since some enemies appear for more than one streamer.

The Epicness9000 (talk) 20:20, July 21, 2020 (EDT)

Question about the References to other games section
As I was playing through the area of the game featuring the boat Princess Peach, I came across something that could be a TTYD reference. If you press "A" to Check the steering wheel of the ship Bobby says something along the lines of thinking he could be an admiral. Would this qualify as an Easter egg or reference as long as I can find the full quote?

Moldomre


 * That sounds like it could be a reference to Admiral Bobbery, but best find the full quote. MarioComix (talk) 22:00, July 25, 2020 (EDT)

More Glitches
This video showcases a number of glitches that we should add to the main page. Don 08:04, July 26, 2020 (EDT)

Maps
I'm currently working on 100% the game, and I'd be more than willing to share some completed maps of all locations. I can't set them up so that people can click on a location and be sent to that location's page though, is there anyone who knows how to do that? --Modderkin64 (talk) 13:24, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * About a week ago I uploaded the maps and made them all into image maps (where you can click on the location and go to that page), although I'm not sure how they should be integrated. I'll just leave a link to them for someone else to add them. User:Eldritchdraaks/sandbox.-- 12:00, October 10, 2020 (EDT)
 * I’m thinking to put them in for which streamer area they are in. For example, the yellow streamer map would go on area articles for Scorching Sandpaper Desert and its surrounding areas.

Re-used designs and how to consider them
So, since this game re-uses multiple character designs from Color Splash, how should we deal with them? Consider them different or the same?
 * Sunset Express conductor:
 * CS: Train conductor of the Sunset Express
 * TOK: Owner of Toad's Automoboots. Installs the boat motor and sells Boot Cars
 * Lighthouse keeper: (this one has a proposal)
 * CS: Stays on the lighthouse of Lighthouse Island, likes disco
 * TOK: DJ in the Temple of Shrooms, likes disco
 * Mustard Café chef:
 * CS: Owner of the Mustard Café, shown to be very lazy and talks in a relaxed manner
 * TOK: Curator of the Earth Vellumental Temple, wants Mario to find the other staff of the exhibit
 * Tangerino Grill Chef:
 * CS: Injured chef of the Tangerino Grill
 * TOK: Chef of the Open-Air Cafe at Overlook Tower
 * Princess
 * CS: Chain Chomp enchanted by Kamek to grow huge and monstrous. Owned by a yellow Toad. Appears in pictures as a normal Chain Chomp with a bow.
 * TOK: Small, generic Chain Chomp at the Shogun Studios petting zoo. Still tamed with a Bone, like in CS.
 * Rescue Squad:
 * CS: Group of captains and cadets.
 * TOK: Need to be arranged in The Ringer and Speed Rings, only the captain designs this time
 * Slurp Guy:
 * CS: Shy Guy with a paper straw, generic enemy
 * TOK: Singular NPC with a 3D straw item. Goes unnamed.
 * Whistle Snifit:
 * CS: Named enemy that summons other enemies in battle
 * TOK: Two unnamed characters that appear identical. Pink variants, even though pink is the only Snifit color to not have a Whistle Snifit variant in CS. 21:09, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * Doesn't the lighthouse keeper/DJ Toad proposal already cover all of them? (Or at least the Toads?) -- 21:12, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
 * Seems to just be the Toads. Princess, Slurp Guy, and Whistle Snifit need agreements. 21:32, July 29, 2020 (EDT)

As the one who started that proposal, I am applying it to the other Toads as well.

option(al) items
what should be done about the timer extender and puzzle solver? where should they go? even though they're just options they are given out as items as well as having models for them. kind of a curious situation we got herePikmin theories (talk) 01:19, August 5, 2020 (EDT)

Regarding the VIP pass glitch
The glitch was fixed as of this recent patch. Could someone add a note of that in the article itself? It's semiprotected and I'm not autoconfirmed in this wiki yet, so I can't add it myself. Thanks in advance. Gigi (talk) 09:35, August 6, 2020 (EDT)
 * Hi, I noted that it was patched out. MarioComix (talk) 17:27, August 6, 2020 (EDT)

Parakarry reference
As you already know, enemies have names For their attacks which already reference certain things like Goombas having “headbonk”s but I notice that Paratroopa’s have a dive kick attack, different from a shell shot, which to my knowledge was only ever done by Parakarry in Paper Mario 64, every other time was a dive inside their shells. Should update the “references to other games” in the Paper Mario 64 section if you guys agree. Maniaclady

Partner table
I'm thinking of working on a table for the partners to put under the "characters" section and replace the mini gallery there, and I have these parameters planned (besides the usual "image" and "name" of course):
 * Attack name
 * Attack power (normally/with the Ally Tambourine equipped)
 * Attack range (which formation they can attack, e.g for Bob-omb this would be "one enemy")
 * Availability (describe when the partner joins and departs, and note other significant times the partner is unavailable e.g Bob-omb doesn't go into the Vellumental areas)

There are a few things to discuss about this, like if the "primary" and "temporary" sections should be merged together, or if partners that don't help in battle at all like Luigi should be excluded.
 * I have completed the table in a "notes" app on my iPad, and I have previewed it here and it is ready to go in. It is like how I described it. I should mention I have kind of merged the "primary" and "temporary" sections together, and I have not included partners who don't fight at all. However, I would like someone to help me decide how this should be implemented.
 * Include them in a separate table, I'd say. I'm kind of unsure, but it seems more efficient to split them. 21:27, October 13, 2020 (EDT)