MarioWiki:Proposals

List of Talk Page Proposals

 * Split Densetsu no Stafy 3 from Video game references (Discuss) Passed
 * Split ghosts from game page (Discuss) Deadline: June 17, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Make a separate subpage for places (Discuss) Deadline: June 18, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Move King Koopa's alter egos to "Alter egos of King Koopa" (Discuss) Deadline: June 21, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Move Goomba (Super Mario World) to (Discuss) Deadline: July 1st, 2013, 23:59 GMT.

Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.

Good articles
This was proposed earlier, but failed due to the lengthy process of the Featured Article process, which has now been lowered. However, the point is, some articles like this are too short to be featured. Good Articles would follow all the rules for an FA apart from 10 and 11, and if we decide not to have them on the main-page point 6. The proposal process would be exactly like the one for a Featured Article i.e fails after 2 months, 5 supports and no opposes etc and these templates would be used, but feel free to improve them, especially with the word 'Ungoodified'. To identify a Good Article I'm thinking something along the lines of a green star, but again, feel free to come up with your own ideas.

   has been nominated to become a Good Article!  If you want to support or oppose, go here.

  , a Good Article, has been nominated to become Ungoodified.  If you want to support or oppose this change go here.

Proposer: with help from Deadline: June 24, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Have Good Articles

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) This would be a great addition.
 * 3) Per proposal. I thought maybe a lighter red or white text would work for un-nomination. And what about this: [insert page name here], a currently good article, has been nominated to be taken off the good articles list. To supp... instead of ungoodified?
 * 4) Per proposal and Yoshi876.

Don't have Good Articles

 * 1) This entire thing seems completely unnecessary. Wouldn't it be simpler to just look over the featured articles that currently exist?

Comments
So wait, it this like a simpler version of Featured Articles?
 * Yes, but it's meant to highlight articles that are good, but not good enough to be an FA

@Time Turner I don't really understand, could you please expand.
 * For one thing, you're proposing a system that's nearly identical to another system that's already in place with only a couple of differences between the rules, and even then, those rules tend to be enforced solely under extreme cases. I mean, what's the point? Why should we bother to have an article labeled as "good" when we could just simply try to make it better than good? Why should we bring notice to articles that are good, but not good enough? I may be misunderstanding your point, but if I'm not wrong, you want us to recognize articles for essentially being mediocre, and that's just... dumb.
 * I thought the rules, were enforced over size and there some very good articles but aren't long enough for FA standards.

Get rid of pointless Mario Party Minigames beginnings and endings
Well, it's pretty simple. I propose to scrap the beginnings and endings in minigames that are just "the camera zooms in on the winner and they do their victory animation" which are epicly pointless and stupid.

Proposer: Deadline: June 17, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per me since it's my proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) — Per Walkazo's comments. Even if it seems pointless, we should cover it and thus, not remove it. However, it would be best to incorporate them into the intro.
 * 2) - Per my comments. If an option is made for incorporating the sections, rather than vaguely calling for the deletion of potentially good info, I'll switch my vote.
 * 3) Per Walkazo's comments.
 * 4) Per Walkazo's comments.
 * 5) – Per all.
 * 6) Per All.
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) Per all
 * 10) It's good to have it, even though it is somewhat unnecessary.

Comments
I agree that giving these one-liners whole sections is a bit much, but wouldn't it be better to try and incorporate the info into the intro, rather than simply call for it all to be deleted? -
 * It would be best, unless all minigames have the same ending animation (but I don't think so) —
 * @Walkazo: That would be hard to do, right? there isn't much to incorporate... @Banon: It would only be ones like the example that I put.
 * No, it's easy. It only took me a moment to do this, for example, and that was for something that wasn't just a mere one-liner: the less info there is, the easier it is to stuff it into the intro. -
 * Well, I said stuff that ispointless.
 * But what is "pointless", exactly? You give an example in your proposal, yes, but calling for the deletion of anything can lead to a slippery slope of judgement calls. It would be better to simply ask for these sections to be incorporated and give the voters no reason to worry about potentially good info being lost as a result of this proposal. -
 * It's stuff like this and this that would be kept.
 * Stuff like that would actually be better off merged with the introduction; the two-sentence endings in particular are not worth full sections. -
 * This proposal is not about two-liners though: it's one-liners.
 * This minigame could easily be incorporated into the main section.

There's a reason why those things are added: I think I'm the only one who added them, since I was probably the only person who worked on the early Mario Party series mini-game articles back in 2007-2008. There's so much potential to expand the mini-game articles that it's ridiculous to leave them be in my opinion. Both of the sections will definitely be revised or fleshed out more.
 * 1) There are mini-games that require the introduction to  to the game mechanics. For instance, Ground Pound (Mario Party)'s objective is to ground pound the flat logs the butterflies are residing. The mini-game requires input from the player to memorize the flat logs in the beginning before the butterflies land on them. Other examples I pulled out include: Stacked Deck, Messy Memory, and Slap Down from Mario Party 3. They are great examples of having the introduction section of the mini-game to be integral with the game mechanics. (Applies to "Introduction".)
 * 2) They reinforce how the game mechanics work through by showing those actions. It gives a nice nudge for those who are trying to understand what the mini-game is about. Examples include: Bob-ombs Away from Mario Party 8,  Quicksand Cache from Mario Party 2, and  Tick Tock Hop from Mario Party 3. (Applies to "Introduction".)
 * 3) The mini-games the staff worked on show personality of being a party game. It'll stick like a sore thumb and feel clunky without those brief but personality-induced mini-game cutscenes. Examples include: End of the Line from Mario Party 3,  Manta Rings from Mario Party 4, and  Logger Heads from Mario Party 9. (Applies to "Introduction" and "Ending".)

Add no bullet point to any trivia that has only one thing
I don't think we need a bullet if there is only one thing in a list. If there is more then one, then it does need it, but just for one, ii don't think so.

Proposer: Deadline: June 21, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per Proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) - It'd be inconsistent with the other pages' Trivia sections and it's not like the lone bullet looks horrible or anything. Besides, if there's only one Trivia point, the best thing to do would be to try incorporating it into the body text: problem solved.
 * 2) Per Walkazo.
 * 3) Per Walkazo.
 * 4) Per Walkazo.
 * 5) Per the bureaucrat that voted on this. (A.K.A. Walkazo)
 * 6) Yeah, but that would turn the Trivia into a mess and will vandalize articles. Per Walkazo.
 * 7) Per all
 * 8) Per Walkazo.
 * 9) Per everyone.
 * 10) -Per everybody.

Comments
This proposal is not needed: if there is only one thing in trivia, put it in the main sections where it can go.

This reminded me of a little problem: should we have bullet points in the "List of references" articles? I know it's not really related to the proposal, but since it's about bullet points... —

Changes
None at the moment

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.