Talk:Luigi's Mansion

This is the "new" template to work on. As this page is getting long, please place questions about how-to and rooms at Template talk:Rooms. Wayoshi


 * Remember, do not to write strategies for every ghost in each room. A link to the ghost's page is enough. Also, there is a page called Luigi's Mansion (place) about the literal mansion itself. Would it be better to list the rooms in this page and what can be found there? Do we really need an article for every room, cause it seems these articles will be mostly composed of lists? Just an idea. -- Son of Suns


 * OK, for each article, we need one sentence for where it's located, one sentence for the ghosts, one sentence for the chests, and one sentence for the Boo. In addition, sometimes rooms have little quirks, such as the Mirror Room requiring use of fire to get out, or the Sealed Room requiring a mirror to get out. That's a good 4-6 sentences per room, something you can't list on the Mansion page. How about putting the template on the Mansion page to save time? Wayoshi

Find and add on to the rest of this discussion at Template talk:Rooms.

Ghosts
''To save space, this template has been removed. This project is almost complete and can be found at Template:Ghosts. 14:48, 23 July 2006 (EDT)

This template will have been immediately added to all existing pages following this 'update' post. Looks like none of the three of us have been on today, but if you're on for 30 minutes, consider creating a page for one of the ghosts above (and putting to add the template!). For portrait ghosts, explain where they're located and how Luigi can capture them. For common ghosts, Son of Suns, your Bat article is a good example. Portraits are identified as characters, but not necessarily enemies (Neville and Lydia never try to hurt Luigi, but Chauncey does). Common ghosts are each a different species, and the only one of these that aren't enemies are the mice.

I hope everyone who has played LM, not just me, Son of Suns, and HK, will help create the ghost articles. :) Wayoshi 21:22, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I keep finding requests for pics in the ghost articles. I've searched for pics, but there are none. I think people should do a bit of research to see if pics of characters exist before requesting them. -- Sir Grodus

Sir, you know not what you speak. I tagged those at about 10 oclock. People can always scan and edit pictures of ghost from manuals and guides. H K

Two Proposed Side Projects
Let's keep all recent talk up here, as this is getting long.

Two related projects I would like to take on but definitely would like to extend the offer to anyone else:


 * 1) I will probably take on is create articles for all the rooms in the mansion, in order of Luigi's adventure. That would probably include making *yet* another template, by area. Notably rooms (where it is, what ghosts are encountered, what key or treasure is obtained, what Boo hides in the room) are easier to create articles for than Portrait Ghosts (require in-depth how-to and what happened, bosses even longer).
 * 2)  Boos. Create a list of the 50 Boos on the main article, including link to location to help out in the project above. Complete! -- Son of Suns

I'll be focusing on Common Ghosts and some Portrait Ghosts (nice, complete articles in a story form, Son of Suns) for now, so feel free to start either. Wayoshi 02:16, 23 July 2006 (EDT)

I love this game. Beat it a million times. I actually had the np guide a month before I got the game... lol I can't find said guide, but I would love to help. H K


 * I think I'll help out too, if you want me to. I have the player's guide, instruction manual, the game, and a notebook full of notes about the game that I need to upload. Unfortunately, I have so many notes to upload about other games I haven't gotten around to Luigi's Mansion yet. I could switch my focus if needed. --Son of Suns 14:44, 19 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I have the NP Guide at home (I'm on vacation), but I remember it pretty well...here's some things I thought about:


 * Money. Gold coins, bills, gems, diamonds, pearls. Tell how much is each (don't know the blue, red, and green gems exactly). Probably explain how to get both gold diamonds.
 * All 23 gallery ghosts. In fact, the NP Guide has the name of the common ghosts, that's something one of us can add later.
 * Elemental Medals
 * Controls is something I always like to include, like how to use the flashlight effectively w/ B and tugging.

How about I add controls, directly after storyline, and the two of you work on another aspect. Wayoshi 14:50, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

I'll find that guide soon. ( I hope.) And figure out what to do. H K


 * I can work on portrait ghosts and common ghosts, maybe even the elemental medals. --Son of Suns 14:52, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Umm.... I'm gonna..... work on..... something..... else..... I can't find that guide. Its lost to the basement's maw! H K

This is so awesome. Mega collaborative work. And its an important article. I love this. H K

Ill work on the overview section at the top. H K

Sounds good, Son of Suns, since you are the only one that has the guide right now. Now I'm going to list all the money in the game, I'll use normal Wikipedia's article to help. Wayoshi 15:12, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

*Shudders at Wikipedia* I just thought of a side project for Bowser that is loosely tied to this. Very loosely. H K

I feel like I haven't done anything substantial on this project. H K

Overview
Wouldn't this mark the second time Luigi is the star. I mean I know what it says, but isn't important if its the second EXACTLY? H K


 * Yes. Luigi was the star of Mario is Missing, where he had to save Mario for the first time. --Son of Suns 15:06, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Wasn't this game hinted at in Luigi's diary in paper mario? H K

Awaiting some feedback on the diary thing. Or would that be trivia? H K


 * It would be trivia, but I can't confirm the info. --Son of Suns 15:38, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Wasn't it a launch title? H K
 * Yes. --Son of Suns 15:33, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Controls
Don't forget the different modes of control! H K
 * That's right, Sidestep! Thank you. Wayoshi 15:12, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Story
Didn't Mario just get there first? I don't remember Luigi having Mario go first to check it out. I could have a faulty memory, however. H K


 * Luigi called Mario and said (paraphrase) "hey I won this mansion, let's go there". Mario and Toad simply arrived first (since Luigi and Mario were in two different locations). --Son of Suns 15:51, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Hey, I know you won't know, an I ask this to be humorous, but where was Luigi? Before he went to the mansion. H K


 * Well, this is pure speculation but maybe he was at Mario's Pad, the cottage house, while Mario was at Peach's Castle. Mario did arrive with Toad afterall. --Son of Suns 16:00, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Was Toad the only mushroom person who went with Mario or were there more? -- Sir Grodus
 * In fact, there were more. When Toad calls from the Telephone Room, he uses "we". Wayoshi 20:35, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Portrait Ghosts
Is Glutton optional? I thought he was required. Isn't the upside-down girl the only ghost who is optional? H K
 * Nope. You can walk right into the kitchen. Any gallery ghost that produces a silver diamond and two gold bars, or any other green treasure chest, are optional. That includes the muscle ghost...the billiards ghost...Jarvis and a couple of others. The Toy Soldiers are required because the toy house opens upon lighting the room. Wayoshi 15:24, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Alright. Cool. Just wonderin. H K

The Money
What about dollar bills? H K
 * Listed as "Bill" in player's guide. Worth 20,000G. --Son of Suns 17:23, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Oh. Sorry missed it! H K

Should we make a template out of all the money when we create their separate articles? Wayoshi 17:25, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Probably, but that definitley won't be my job. Sorry. I did change the gold bar page, though. H K What about a new category? "Luigi's Mansion Money?" Wayoshi 17:27, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

That I can do! H K

Better idea! H K

Money Subcategory for items, subsubcategory for Lm money H K

Um... How do I make a subcategory? H K


 * Make a normal category, then on the category page, put the larger category in the page. Ex: Make Luigi Mansion Money Category, then on that page, place a Money Category link. --Son of Suns 17:44, 19 July 2006 (EDT)


 * I created the category "Mansion Treasures" and put it under Category: Coins . Coins is the closest to Money, and in the description it called Coins currency. Wayoshi 20:24, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

I was gonna do that.... I had to eat dinner! H K

Next Stage
Still left:


 * There's a lot of new articles ahead, all enemies in the mansion (they are all ghosts, so they go into the Undead Category ). I have made articles on most of the money (Mansion Treasures) except for pearls, which I'll do first thing when I return.
 * Elemental Medals, Son of Suns is in charge.
 * So you can get involved, HK, can you add the House Rankings, from A to H? 100,000,000G to 5,000G (I've always wanted to get Rank H, but ignoring all money is...hard for me).
 * Trivia. Such as the highest money possible is 142,390,000, composed of...(I have the details from another guy's run somewhere...), etc.

We're well on our way to making a complete page, with tens of articles branching off of it. Cheers to the three of us! Wayoshi 01:09, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I got rank H once. It was funny to go from mansion to tent. But yeah, I'll make a list from A-H, and how much money each is. H K

Gallery
What did you mean when you (Wayoshi) wrote Frames become nicer as Luigi catches more Boos? Son of Suns 00:55, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Hmm, I read that somewhere, that the frames have more detail. I'll remove since I'm not entirely sure. Wayoshi 00:59, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Nonproject
How can King Boo say, "All the trouble you caused me in the past..." during his first apearance? H K
 * Perhaps he is the Big Boo in Super Mario World. Wayoshi
 * One: King Boo could be referring to all the trouble Mario and Luigi have caused for the Boos, which indirectly causes problems for King Boo. Two: Super Mario 64 DS appears to be a retcon of the original Super Mario 64 DS. As such, the Big Boo character was replaced by the King Boo character at certain points in the game, meaning that Mario and Luigi have caused troubles for King Boo in a retconned storyline. Three: King Boo cannot be Big Boo from Super Mario World. There is more than one Big Boo in the game and they can be easily defeated. -- Son of Suns

Leaving
Hey I gotta tell you guys something. In about a month I go to school, and I may be unable to come to the site. I don't know. If I can go to the site, it would be at strict times that I am unsure of. H K

Next Time
Next time we do a big project, should we do like wikipedia (ugh) and make a template to put on talk pages saying that its part of a project, and the main project page is here (link)? H K

lol @ PAL differences
I've got the PAL Version. Ouch.
 * I'll try find out the ghosts' PAL HP. ~ It's-a me, Smeedel. / Talk - Contribs - You 13:19, 5 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Great idea, add the PAL HP to each ghost's article. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 13:28, 5 August 2006 (EDT)

I noticed...
I noticed a lot of the rooms are undone. Should I do them in the same format as the other rooms?Monty Mole 18:19, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

Yes. H K
 * That's the final component of the project that I haven't gotten to yet. We'd love the help! Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 18:33, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

All right. I'll do what I can. =) Monty Mole 19:45, 7 August 2006 (EDT)


 * I noticed that the Mario Items mostly collected in Area Three can be collected in any order. Therefore, I think I will list them as "first, second," etc. in the order they appear of the Game Boy Horror. Monty Mole 17:35, 8 August 2006 (EDT)
 * That's fine. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 17:39, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

Progress
I'm making some progress with the rooms. I only have three more in Area Two to do. Would one of you mind looking over them and giving your dis/approval? Much appreciated. Monty Mole 21:31, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

They're fine. Keep it up. H K