MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 3

Soon, Pipe Plaza will become 's community portal. Thus, its talk page will become the discussion page for topics such as below. Talk:Main Page will become a page about the main page itself (suggestions for improvement), and the content shown here now will be moved to the Pipe Plaza talk page within three days, if not sooner. A link will be provided here to the new portal page for some time after the move, and the Pipe Plaza will be linked in the sidebar for easy access. Thanks for reading. 20:03, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Sunshine goop
Should we make articles for the differnt kinds of goo in Super Mario Sunshine? Or at least one article for all of them? - Yoshi Master

Yes. we should. Whoever, wrote this, sign your comments! Paper Jorge ( Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.&middot;Contributions&middot; ) 20:52, 24 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I think it's a good idea. Monty ( Talk&middot;Contribs )

Sounds good! 3dejong

My Bad. Okay so there's the orange and yellow goop on the airstrip and shot from the Rockey Wrench in Noki Bay the black tar stuff on the Blue Coin shack the yellow force feilds the pink transparent goo on Noki Bay's water the grey transparent goo on Bianco Hill's lake the rainbow warp portal goo the green slime in Bowser's bath the electric goo from the Manta the red paint from Bowser Jr the fire goo from the Chomps Petey Piranha's brown sludge and Gooper Bloopers ink Did I miss anything? Do you think the stuff in Mt Corona is really lava? And what's the pages name? - Yoshi Master

I think Goo will be a good title and we'll make redirects from all goo types. You were really helpful. – Spike
 * I think Goop would be better, as it isn't really a goo. Gooper Blooper? ayoshi TC@ http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 22:21, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Goo could still be a redirect, though. Of course, we'll have to refer to it as Goop in the article itself. Monty Mole ( Talk&middot;Contribs ) 18:22, 26 October 2006 (EDT)
 * That's the plan Spike & I came up with last night. Spike is working on the different types of goop. ayoshi TC@ http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 20:03, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Bad Pics
When uploading pics can you make sure they're not stretched out/really bad quality/obviously stolen from The Mushroom Kingdom site? It doesn't take much to fix something, even if you only have MS paint. Lets try to look professional here people. - Yoshi Master

Bonus Games
Should we add pages for bonus games, like Stump Petuni and the thwomp quiz from Paper Mario 2? We would also have to add the lives earning thing at the end of each level in SMB2 and SML, the Toad House card games in SMB3, the Wario Land enemy bombing, ect. - Yoshi Master


 * Those articles are legit, especially if they are named. The Toad House games should probably be listed in the Toad House article, as they are not given specific names (to my knowledge). The others should have conjectural names if they are not associated with a specific place. -- Son of Suns

Aligning Templates
In cases where images are in an article, sometimes templates get squished off to the side. I think it would look nicer if the templates were at the bottom of the page and not squished off to the side. Put the minimum number of breaks between the main body and the template in order for the template to be at the bottom, under the image. Monty Mole ( Talk&middot;Contribs ) 19:44, 16 October 2006 (EDT)

Just a thought...
In SMRPG, with Psychopath, Mallow can read minds, revealing a "thought". The thoughts of an enemy should be added to its page. I have the thoughts for quite a few enemies, so when have the time I may upload a few. Could this be made into a project?

Sure! It's a great idea! Paper Jorge ( Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.&middot;Contributions&middot; ) 22:44, 9 October 2006 (EDT)
 * A whole PipeProject on the text revealed in one move, on every enemy? I think another SMRPG-related issue can be combined into this idea for a full PipeProject. Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 22:47, 9 October 2006 (EDT)

Sweet! When can we start? Sorry about the unsigned comment, I forgot. :-/  3dejong

Licensing
Use it when uploading files. This page explains what option should be used for what. -- Steve (talk) 23:27, 7 October 2006 (EDT)

Four New Sysops!
For those not digging deep into the recent changes, due to some inactivity of some of our old sysops, four new ones have been assigned based on contributions and being helpful in general, and activeness, among other things:

Congratulations and keep up the good work! If you were not chosen now, remember that sysops are the same as contributors, except they have extra abilities to keep the wiki clean from vandalism and such. Sysops are not superior to other users contributing-wise, and you shouldn't let such an issue ruin your experience on the wiki. For the new sysops, I've spoken to a couple of you already about some questions you have, but if there's anything confusing about the new features, add it here. :) Wayoshi ( T&middot;C&middot;@ ) 19:25, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

I guess congrats are in order. At least I've seen them around... But, maybe it's just me, but I can't name five constant contributors that aren't sysops...<_< I'm not suggesting anything though.--Sml007.5 20:51, 3 October 2006 (EDT)

Wow... (Question on Image Policy)
Gone three days and I find a ton of new templates & finally some written policies about blocking, deleting and even sigs and color codes (Steve should have sastified what you wanted, WF99). One question: is the new image policy, 28 templates & personal image use policy in place because the wiki is getting bigger and copyright issues may come up? Wayoshi ( T&middot;</tt>C&middot;</tt>@ ) 19:14, 9 October 2006 (EDT)
 * I really just wanted to standardize some things, but for the most part, yes. I don't think copyright issues would have come up but including license information with all the images is really the proper thing to do. -- Steve (talk) 19:35, 9 October 2006 (EDT)

Spoilers
I was thinking we should put a warning on the front page indicating that this wiki contains spoilers. I also think we should make a new spoiler template to place on the top of articles with spoilers from recently released games. -- Son of Suns

Good idea. That's nice. HK-47 w4z   h3R3   a  t  16:59, 11 October 2006 (EDT)

Spoiler template for select articles, okay, but I don't see it necessary to include a warning on the main page. -- Steve (talk) 17:33, 11 October 2006 (EDT)

Awards
This was mentioned briefly at Personal images and so I researched what the main base, Wikipedia, does for these awards. Basically, custom-made images (often stars) are "handed" (added) to user pages, with the name of the hander/awarder. Some users even have a subpage at Special:Mypage/Awards with a gallery of these. See here for more. While 100 awards is way too much for this wiki, I think occasional (once or twice a month) recognition for good contributions (possibly in certain fields), uploading, etc is a good idea (10?). Thoughts? Wayoshi ( T&middot;</tt>C&middot;</tt>@ ) http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 22:53, 11 October 2006 (EDT)

Funny Captions in Images
I've noticed several images with captions that are "jokes". For example, the Charlieton article has an image caption that reads, "Needs a shave?" If such quips were added to the article itself, it would be deleted as vandalism.

So, should these captions be allowed, or reversed to more serious ones?Waluigi Freak 99 18:39, 13 October 2006 (EDT)

Yes they should be allowed because the image is the only place to add humor on the Wiki. Although I have no authority over this matter you should ask Steve.-Spike
 * has added almost all of those "funny" captions. You may want to ask for his reasons as well, but I think it's a good idea if the only other possible caption is boring. ayoshi ( T&middot;</tt>C&middot;</tt>@ ) http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 21:25, 13 October 2006 (EDT)

The captions should be serious and give a very brief description of the image. I'm thinking the jokes thing is pretty lame and somehow takes away from our credibility as this hardcore Mario knowledge base. The site should be very similar to Wikipedia in its seriousness. -- Steve (talk) 22:16, 13 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Let Yoshi Mastar explain himself, then. ayoshi ( T&middot;</tt>C&middot;</tt>@ ) http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 00:24, 14 October 2006 (EDT)

I kinda like the little quips, but some, like the first Tweester caption, (how the Tweester "sucks") went a little too far. We do want to give a good impression, don't we? 3dejong

I agree with Steve. The wiki is supposed to be informative and the picture captions should be informative as well. -- Son of Suns

Yea they should be serious, but don't write exactly what's in the pic so much that it's redundant. Also we should probably include the game the pics from. - Yoshi Master


 * You know these new captions are exactly what's in the pic. We might as well have no captions. Superchao 18:53, 14 October 2006 (EDT)


 * How so? In the Super Mario Wiki, when we write our articles and captions, we assume that the reader knows nothing about them.  Someone who's never seen Waluigi before will be curious about who that tall, distorted, purple guy is.  We want serious captions here, not corny jokes.Waluigi Freak 99 17:54, 17 October 2006 (EDT)


 * I half-agree. While the captions should be descriptive. They are getting to the point where they are becoming a little redundant, at least in my opinion. Is there no way to acheive a happy medium? Monty Mole ( Talk&middot;Contribs ) 21:52, 17 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Remember, just because captions can't be silly doesn't mean they can't be interesting. See the Ninji image caption for an interesting comment. We can avoid redundancy by pointing out the interesting characteristics of an image. -- Son of Suns


 * Captions should be informative, yet not redundant. A reference to a fact or trivia should be added, not "A crumbling Stone Chomp" or "A face only a mother... wait, nobody could love this face" (from Stone Chomp. The first quote is too obvious while the second one goes a little too far. I suggest a medium, as Monty Mole suggested, to find a balance between the two. Maybe something like "Just like Gargoyle Statues, they live to protect" or "Also called Rock Chomps". That is the kind of information that should be added. As for stating what game the image is from or an obvious description about the appearance, those are already stated in the article or are found in the file description. If any users don't know what captions to add, then they shouldn't add any at all and other users will write a caption for it. My point is not to make it too obvious, yet write something informative. Oh yes, any speculations about looks should be added too. – Spike[[Image:Spike_sheild_badge.PNG]]

For example, I tried to make the K. Lumsy caption interesting as it points out the ironies of his personality and his physical appearance. It's informative but also an interesting observation. This is what we are striving for, right? -- Son of Suns
 * Yeah, that works. -- Steve (talk) 16:11, 19 October 2006 (EDT)

Fan Games
We should have a big artical on fan games!!!JosephK19 02:53, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

Sorry, but in this Wiki we do not allow Fan Games. Only games officially made by Nintendo. Paper Jorge ( Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.&middot;</tt>Contributions&middot;</tt> ) 12:07, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

3,000 Articles
We're about 30 away as of right now. And we just hit 2,000 less than two months ago. -- Steve (talk) 16:07, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Awesome! I'll make a lot of articles today so we can get 3,000 articles today. Paper Jorge ( Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.&middot;</tt>Contributions&middot;</tt> ) 16:10, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

So, on the one hand, this means that the Wiki is growing quickly. But on the other, it could mean that the articles aren't as high-quality as possible. Thoughts? Bear in mind I said "could". Monty Mole ( Talk&middot;Contribs ) 16:13, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

It's all good. At least when the articles have a base they can easily be elaborated on. -- Steve (talk) 16:30, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Congrats guys, keep it going! ayoshi TC@ http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 22:14, 23 October 2006 (EDT)

Hey, we have 3,000 Pages! Wow! Everyone-good job! Paper Jorge ( Need to tell me something? Go to my talk page.&middot;</tt>Contributions&middot;</tt> ) 22:39, 23 October 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, good job. I probably should have mentioned this in the first place.

Curse my pessimism. Monty Mole ( Talk&middot;Contribs ) 18:20, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

That Notice Thing
Yo, why can't we talk about that kind of stuff here? I think it's the most common place for people to look. The Pipe Plaza talk page can talk about specific Pipe Plaza stuff. -- Steve (talk) http://www.porplemontage.com/images/firefox_27x15.png 20:27, 26 October 2006 (EDT)
 * That's true, and that's why I pledge to link to the Plaza talk page from here. However, the Pipe Plaza is supposed to be a single community portal page: in the normal page is the latest news, projects, and help links, on the talk page is questions in general, like it is here. Why have the normal page at Pipe Plaza and the talk page at Talk:Main Page, two different namespaces? Unless everyone wants to make the main page a Pipe Plaza itself (it would be called main page), so that the main page looks more interesting. Let's keep the main and talk pages for this project in adjacent pages, and people would get used to MarioWiki talk:Pipe Plaza (remember, it is to be linked in the sidebar, so it's two clicks from anywhere on the wiki). ayoshi TC@ http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 22:33, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Apologies in Advance
On behalf of the Super Mario Wiki, I would like to apologize in advance for some technical issues that arose tonight out of the blue. On every page but the main page, for two hours, this error was showing up:

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'objectcache.MYI' (errno: 145) (localhost)".

We are not sure what caused this error, whether it was MediaWiki or another happening. The forum was working perfectly during this time. Now, after Steve mostly fixed the wiki issue, the forum is messed up – the forum claims that you have posted recently whenever you try to post, make an edit to a post, or send a PM, making you a spectator. In addition, forums & threads won't become read and the users online is frozen. There is also a minor problem here – whenever making an edit of your own, you may need to hard refresh (Ctrl + Refresh (F5)) to see your changes, instead of it showing up right away.

Again, I apologize in behalf of the wiki for the unforeseen. Hopefully things will be fixed within the next 24 hours. Thanks for reading. ayoshi TC@ http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png 23:05, 26 October 2006 (EDT)


 * The wiki should be fully fixed now. The forum will fix itself in a few hours from now. -- Steve (talk) http://www.porplemontage.com/images/firefox_27x15.png 08:09, 27 October 2006 (EDT)