Talk:Bowser Baddies

Split from Koopa Troop
Bowser Baddies currently redirects to the Koopa Troop article, and in the Japanese version of Mario & Luigi, Bowser indeed refers to them with basically the same term used in Super Mario RPG. However, the group is clearly given different treatment here - for one, they are visibly a much smaller division than other games, and for another, all assembled members are somewhat large Koopa Troopas wearing aviator gear. The role they play is also non-hostile, which could be due to the circumstances in the storyline, but they seem to act more like general-purpose crewmembers of the Koopa Cruiser than combat-ready troops (incidentally explaining how they got wasted by the new villains so easily).

Proposer: Deadline: April 9, 2015, 23:59 GMT.

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per LinkTheLefty's comment.

Oppose

 * 1) - Bowser's Koopas are called so many different things across their appearances, if we split one subsection of it we might as well split them all because for all we know, any of the other nicknames could refer to different specific groups of Koopas loyal to Bowser. No, in this case, best to keep it all in one place.
 * 2) - Per Walkazo
 * 3) I agree with Walkazo in this one. We already have the Koopa Troop and with that, I say per Walkazo.

Comments
Let's not forget that the endgame enemies at Bowser's Castle are treated independently from the Bowser Baddies, and that particular group definitely fits the "usual" context of Koopa Troop/Koopa clan/Turtle Tribe/etc. It's true that Bowser's army goes by many names, but they're used just about interchangeably (except arguably the terms used in the Super Show, which can't seem to decide if it's for King Koopa's forces, his recurring trio of followers, or both). There's also the fact that Bowser refers to his Baddies as his "crew" in the game's early dialog, which gives off the impression that they're primarily Koopa Cruiser workers in the first place. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:55, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

In response to Walkazo, it seems clear that Bowser Baddies, in this case, does refer to a specific group and not Bowser's army in general. I understand what you're getting at, but there is actually solid evidence that this term does not refer to Bowser's whole army, just the crew of the Koopa Cruiser. I wouldn't say that enough evidence exists for other names for Bowser's army that are used in other games. Pseudo-dino (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2015 (EDT)