MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 25

New Mario game in the E3
I've seen that Nintendo will probably make a new Mario game (including a New TLOZelda and a Wii Fit sequel) found here. The possible new games will be shown in the E3 of june. It could be just a speculation, but the Wii Fit sequel has been confirmed by now.
 * Its not very explicative... But its good

#mw-shroom
It cant be accessed in the MW Applet or any other chat devide except Mibbit. Can someone fix this?

Actual research on Mario gravity physics
Well, this is funny. I just found out an article about the Mario gravity physics back in Kotaku, grabbing a few resources for me to utilize fully. ...This is when I stumbled upon this. :O Here's the link. Acceleration Due to Gravity: Super Mario Brothers

Any comments would be welcome here. :o When the wiki's that lazy, I bet this section would not likely be removed. ;o
 * I wonder how people have time for that. - Consider all the different gravity elements in Super Mario Galaxy. Some of them make Mario jump even higher than before to simulate "low gravity". - 07:36, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

interesting..... I wonder the gravity compared to our own. &#91;&#91;Lu-igi board]] 11:50, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

@Cobold: As far as I know, such things are usually made by intellectual people for (pseudo)science fun, it isn't to be taken really seriously. ;-) Like the German Donaldist (Donald Duck researcher) who created the map of Duckburg within 13 years (German article), or the Donaldism in general. --Grandy02 12:02, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
 * I know it's just for fun. I remember reading a German book about how Donald Duck should be rated 18 because of all the crimes being committed in the comic books. They took a quite judicial approach on that, and the Mario "scientific research" of the gravity sounds exactly like that. - 12:19, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

Suggestions
I'm not even much of a active member here, so not really my place to make suggestions. But nonetheless...

1) Most wikis (including the one that I'm an admin of) have their main page protected. Because, during a vandal strike the main page is usually a target. So, unless someone has already protected this one, it would be a good idea to do so. 2) Also, have you ever considered a bot to welcome new users? 17:11, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

Our main page is protected. And a bot isn't a real person. When a real person welcomes another user, it means more than when a bot does it. Yoshario'''

Problems with the site?
Has anyone else been getting a database error message? 09MurphyM 14:35, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
 * Sometimes the server goes down, but eventually, it fixes itself. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

Rename Pages
Um, how do you rename a page already created? Can only sysops and above do that? Cause once some new Mario games come out, I want to change the Japaneese names to their English names.


 * You click the "move" tab next to the "history" tab. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]

10,000th User
Congratulations to for registering an account here for the 10,000th time at 10:26p (EDT) on June 16th, 2009! :D 02:23, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Move question
Well, first, CONGRATS TO OUR 10,000th USER!! an next, my question. If a chat channel is moved, is its stuff also moved? (access list, GameServ, preferences, etc)

Polls and images
Why Does it take so long for a new poll/featured image to be put on? A new one appears like, every two weeks not one. 29 June 2009
 * The sysops are not on a regular schedule yet/any more. If we would set a day of the week to update the front page, we could update it more consistently. - 17:22, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Featured Quote

 * Whare is the featured quote about, how do you Nominate a quote?     User:Mario freak
 * It's random. --Glowsquid 12:03, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Template:Announcement
Can anyone add to this template that the Shroom is having a Feedback Survey? Thanks :)

Super Smash Bros. N64 Beta
I bring up this issue here because it affects several pages and no one has cleared it up since ages. According to the article Super Smash Bros., several characters such as Peach and Bowser were planned for the game, but got cut for different reasons. However, there is no reliable source that would confirm that (it came from SmashWiki, but they don't cite their sources, either). Furthermore, Beta Elements claims the same, plus that Final Smashes were planned and that Masahiro Sakurai "has recordings of the character's voices during their Final Smash." In related sections, articles such as Bowser and Pit also claim that they were supposed to appear in the first Smash Bros. (along with a "citation needed" tag). Since no user has added citations since months, I suggest to just remove these parts as long as nobody has found a reliable source. --Grandy02 13:30, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
 * The final smashes being planned for the original Smash Bros., along with the recorded voices, was as far as I recall it mentioned in Iwata Asks: SSBB. - 09:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Okay, thanks. On the characters, a reference has been added, it's a list of poll results from the Japanese Smash Bros. site, along with some side notes. The latter one indeed tell that Bowser, Dedede and Mewtwo were planned. But not Peach, Pit and Meowth. Well, I don't know Japanese so I can also say what the bad English of the online translator told me. Could somebody check, please? --Grandy02 12:58, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

Weekly Polls
The Administrative staff of the Super Mario Wiki have decided that the Weekly Polls will no longer be voted on by users. There's just way too much chaos on the Poll Selection page between duplicated poll suggestions, coding errors, biased votes, and getting a bunch of proposals that were intended to improve the polls, but never did anything. Besides, we've been getting too much focus on the polls instead of the actual wiki. We want our new members to contribute to our wiki by adding information to our articles, creating categories, etc. The overall process is just a total mess the way it is now.

Thus, every week, a new poll will be posted on the Main Page by me. 14:52, 14 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Stooby: can you erase the Poll selection link from the main page?? THanks :)
 * Done. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * thx :) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  16:01, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Could users have a preview of what's to come?

What do you mean when you say "what's to come?". Can you be more specific? Yoshario'''
 * Like Stooben Rooben could put a section on his page:"Next Week's Poll" or something like that, oh ya, can you block Stupid Mari0? (I know you can but will you please?)
 * Maybe, you'll have to ask him. And "Stupid Mario0" is a perfectly acceptable username. If it were to contain an expletive or an offensive/discriminatory statement, then it would be unacceptable. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * You know what, disregard my statement on SM, I'll go welcome him! I'll contact Stooben in a couple mintues
 * Is this decision permanent, because we have about a year or two's supply of polls. What will happen when we run out of polls to use after those two years? 10:53, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Mario & Nintendo News header
Can the background be "#099" (Turquoise) cause we already have a blue header for FA. It just has always bothered me that its not a unique color like red, green, or yellow. -- 18:59, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Something wrong with the forums.
Everytime I try and go to the forums, it says

"Sorry ugozima, you are banned from using this forum! Rudnicki"

Has Rudnicki haxx0red the forums? Ugozima 01:37, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * i can get on, dunno. mabey you did something -- 02:03, 18 July 2009 (EDT)


 * No, I didn't do anything. I always follow the rules. (Except mindless junk)

Wait, WARIOLOAF?!? WARIOLOAF!?! I read that you were one of Rudnicki's socks. Ugozima 02:13, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * WTF? I've been here since almost the beginning of the wiki. I aint no sock >:| -- 02:21, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

Never mind, it was someother Warioword guy. I think it was WarioWaft or something. Yeah, still says banned. Ugozima 03:38, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, that staement sounded a bit off to me. If I'm correct, he made the Fake News (that's what it says on Userpedia). 09:46, 18 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Its true I did -- 12:08, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

Try logging in now, Ugozima. 20:30, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

Thanks. Ugozima 00:28, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

'Shroom sign-up
I recently signed up for the 'Shroom. Does anyone think that this would be a good idea for an article?: Ask Doopliss - Anyone can leave a question about a game on my talk page and I will answer them in an article for the 'Shroom. (Games applicable are listed on my Userpage.) -
 * Ask this guy (which, if I'm correct, you already did). If he does not respond, go ahead and ask this guy right here. He probably won't respond within the next week, he is going on vacation (or something to that extent) until the 26th of this month. hope that helps. 16:28, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
 * I just wanted someone to respond to my application. Thanx. -[[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]] [[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]]
 * Yes, SR and Tucayo have the ultimate authority though I don't think an "Ask Doopliss" section would be in merit as we already have the FAQ for that.
 * If either one doesn't answer by the end of the month, I'll change my sign-up to N/A, so that they aren't expecting an article from me. @ Marioguy1, I was talking about questions whose answers are not listed in the FAQs. -

Yes, that's what: Active users, this page and the FAQ talk page are for. An ask Doopliss section would be available only once a month and therefore would discourage users from asking questions at any other time than that. Maybe we could make a page called "Mariowiki:Questions" where you post your question and another user who knows the answer answers it. Maybe...you know what, that's a good idea! I might make up a rough draft of that in my spare time...you could archive the page every 20 headers...maybe...


 * That's actually a really good idea. I was going to change my sign-up soon anyway because I realized not enough people would give me questions in time. I was just trying to get more involved. I'll change my sign-up to N/A. -[[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]] [[Image:Doopliss2.jpg|30px]]

Upcomming Tourneys
Please add to the mainpage. It has been proposed and accepted -- 23:28, 22 July 2009 (EDT)
 * Coincollector added it. 01:17, 23 July 2009 (EDT)


 * Thanks :D -- 10:23, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

Help Needed! Who Saved the Club Nintendo Comics?
Sorry I'm posting this here, since it's not related to the wiki directly. The creation of new articles and the improvement of old ones depends greatly on it, though. Let's get to the point: In the articles about Club Nintendo comics, we used to have a link to this website, where you could download PDF versions of the comics. Problem is: They were taken off the website and I have no access to most of the comics anymore. So, if anyone of you has saved the comics while they were still online, I'd be more than glad if (s)he could tell me. Thanks in advance. 16:18, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Chat Down
It seems that Darkmyst's own main server is down, which makes all of its chatrooms down. Once that site works again, everything should be fine. 10:10, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

Mariodsi Have you noticed some articals are unusual?Like a SMB3 artical it called the Mushroom Lands (countries)that's not right.

Help! The Main Page is so ugly!
Yes. You need to clear your cache to fix it:


 * Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload, or press Ctrl-Shift-R (Cmd-Shift-R on Apple Mac);
 * IE: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5;
 * Konqueror:: simply click the Reload button, or press F5;
 * Opera users may need to completely clear their cache in Tools→Preferences.

I altered it to take better advantage of CSS. Otherwise, it's the same. 04:16, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The content in all the boxes is lower down than it should be. -- 07:29, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Hm, I don't know what caused that. Looks like you fixed it, though. 20:48, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Unused Files problem - glitch?
Many times I decide to delete some unused files I see some used images within this page that appear to be unused - clicking on them and watch their links you see nothing. For example, all the images from the article Kolorado are set here and they're all in use... What's that problem invading that page that the user told me almost five months ago?
 * When one of the images is linked to with a space between "Image:" and the name, it messes all the images in the page up (just like how the spacious categories are invisible to DPL). The Kolorado page's first image was linked to as [[Image: Kolorado.PNG]], which is why the images didn't register. It's strange how one little spacing error could wreak such havoc... - 20:32, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Ah, I see. Well, I'll take care about that. Thank you.

"Real Name" in Special:Preferences
(Apologies if I'm not in the right place.) This is about the field labelled "Real Name" in the preferences. I can't figure out where it appears in relation to your contributions. I'm told it will be used to provide attribution, so a logical place is the history or Special:Contributors, but nothing so far.

Secondly, is there a way to get the signature to display GMT/UTC instead of EDT? (I know there's a preferences option, but it doesn't seem to affect signatures.) I don't like how it assumes I'm American and I would rather not have to add four to everything if I don't have to. Toadfan 10:33, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The Real Names appear on UserScore, which only the Sysops can access. That way, if you need attribution, we can confirm who you are, but you don't have to display your identity to the whole Internet (though that's not the only reason the page was restricted). The names might appear elsewhere as well, but I don't know for sure. As for the signatures, I'm pretty sure they can't be changed; they're set to EDT/EST because the Wiki itself is set to that time zone - it has nothing to do with individual Users' locations. Hopefully that answers your questions, but if you have any more, you can post them on MarioWiki talk:FAQ. - 21:53, 12 August 2009 (EDT)


 * Actually, add "?action=credits" to the end of a page's URL to see the "real names" of the contributors. eg. http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Main_Page?action=credits 22:05, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
 * ...Cool. - 22:19, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Game & Watch
While there is around a dozen of Mario Game & Watch titles, the Wiki also has articles on many more Game & Watch games, since they were included in the Mario themed Game & Watch Gallery series. However, articles such as Ball handle those as if they were "real" Mario games. I think the non-Mario Game & Watch titles should be handled like mini-games, since the only reason for the articles is that they were featured in the compilations. After all, this Mario Wiki and not Nintendo Wiki. The DSiWare article also lists all Game & Watch ports (only exact ports in this case and no Mario remakes), including those that don't feature any Mario characters. What do you think? --Grandy02 16:05, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
 * The Modern versions of these titles are "real" Mario games, but I agree that those articles should be dealt with in regards to the Game & Watch Gallery updates as opposed to the original games themselves. That means replacing their standard game infoboxes with special G&W Gallery Mini-game templates, and scrapping all the DSi information, correct? I think Manhole is a good example of what we'd be striving for: a concise introduction, followed by the information about the original/classic game, and then the modern stuff. Perhaps to keep in step with the rest of the wiki's organization, there should be a "History" section with a "Background" sub-section dealing with the original game (i.e. the release date, the photo of the game, a mention of its DSiWare release, and any unique gameplay elements); the brunt of the original gameplay would then be included in the "Classic" sub-header of the "Game & Watch Gallery" section (covering the series, not any one title in particular, seeing as some games, like Chef, appear in multiple galleries), with the "Modern" version once again bringing up the rear. Or, if all those headers seem superfluous, simply sticking to a "Background" header and a "Game & Watch Gallery" header with the "Classic" and "Modern" sub-headers would work too. I like the latter option the best, what about you guys? -  20:14, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
 * Sounds good. Could you make the infobox? --Grandy02 06:37, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
 * I'm afraid I can't - or at least, not at this moment. I haven't learnt the "how-to"s of infoboxes yet, and I don't have enough time to learn right now (regardless of how simple it may be). Sorry. - 22:09, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Boos and Goombas.
In the Japanese games, King Boo was originally two separate characters. Super Mario Sunshine had "Boss Teresa," while the rest have "King Teresa." Also, Atomic Boo is simply the Japanese name of Big Boo. What we call a Goomba was also originally two separate entities: Kuribon (SMW) and Kuribou (everywhere else.) So, should there be separate articles for these?

More generally, when the English and Japanese games contradict, what do we do? 04:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)


 * i say we should stick to the english, and mention the japanese thing in the page

Server Upgrade
Hello everyone, Steve decided to shut down the wiki for ~14 hours to do a (overdue?) server upgrade. Please enjoy the faster speeds! 01:04, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Glitch
When try to enter the Waluigi page,I'll get message saying"The Super Mario Wiki does not have a page for "Waluigi".".Yet when I click the history tab all the past edits are still there.


 * Never mind it's fixed.

I found similar problems for Goombella and Lady Bow articles. They have vanished. Edofenrir 13:39, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Ok, the same problem appears while accessing the Fire Bro. article. Apparently some articles got damaged, for there history remains, but the article is inaccessable.

Edofenrir 15:03, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
 * All fixed. -- 15:08, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
 * A similar error appears when viewing the Castle_of_Priscilla_the_Peckish article. The article cannot be viewed, but the history can be accessed fine. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Fix'd. Whenever you find a glitchy page, just use the History to find the most recent viable revision and edit it; that will restore the page. - 20:32, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Extra!
The Shroom has been deleted by Tar Boy!
 * Fixed and blocked the guy --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  16:27, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Wanted Pages
I've been browsing the wanted pages for ones that I can create and I've noticed around page 517, there is a wanted page titled Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story (I just copied and pasted the title then put the brackets). But when I did the same to the title of the game, The link appears and I just don't see a difference in spelling or anything Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story. Is that just me or are these identical and there's a glitch

10:12, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
 * There is a difference, one uses a kind of apostrophe (') and the other uses another kind (’) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  10:30, 30 August 2009 (EDT)


 * Ok thanks Tucayo. I would have never seen that.


 * No problem :) --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  15:46, 1 September 2009 (EDT)

Games page
I've added a comment on the Games talk page and would like to have feedback from you guys. The games page is a very important page on the Wiki that has been lying around abandoned forever and we should create some guidlines for its structure, maybe have a proposal as well. - 12:46, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

Beta Super Mario Wiki
Couldn't you realase that thing? I think it's very useful.--MATEOELBACAN 17:01, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Uh... What? If you are refering to a MarioWiki equivalent to the Wikipedia Beta, we don't have one, at least none that I have heard of. 17:05, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

The MarioWiki also won't be able to have Wikipedia's new style any time soon. We're not up to date with the latest MediaWiki version because it has conflicts with many extensions that we're using. I don't know what extensions exactly, but it's stuff like: Edit Count, Check User, the IRC Chat, patrollers, user renames, DPL, multi-upload, enhanced parser functions, random selections, YouTube embedding and "Keep your hands to yourself" which prevents you from editing user pages that don't belong to you. And we don't want to lose compability with some of those extensions just to have a different site layout. - 10:04, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Well,the normal Wiki is also good.--MATEOELBACAN 16:13, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
 * Exactly, the Wiki's fine the way it is. As the old saying goes: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." - 20:13, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

This Hacker
I have herd a lot about some hacker Is this a very big Issue? Also I talked to at school he says he is planning to do similar things.
 * MediaWiki software is very secure, and the passwords are hashed. It would be very hard for "Tar Boy" to actually hack this place. So it's not an issue. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * The troll who has been referred to as a hacker did not actually hack anything. What actually happened is that several users noticed their userpages had been changed to a pornographic image without their consent, and that they could not be changed back. Since under normal circumstances a userpage can only be edited by its owner or administrators, it was assumed that the wiki had been hacked. As it turned out, the troll had simply edited a few templates in common use with pornographic imagery, which requires no hacking. Those templates which were hit have been reverted and protected, making an attack of this nature more difficult in the future. 10:34, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Question
I think I heard this somewhere, but didn't we have a proposal or something on character infoboxes on SSB character pages? For example, Ness has a character AND ssb infobox, while Lucas only has the ssb infobox. So which page is correct? Sorry if this is common knowlege, but I don't remember it exactly.

Judging Did You Know
I am Zero! Alright, the updated Did You Know is alright, but the third trivia is too simple, the wiki need more complex trivias, or else I'll put that proposal up again. Zero signing out.

There's not a lot we can do, the did you now section is based off of the three newest articles.
 * THen you update it, Zero. Anyone can --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  10:54, 4 October 2009 (EDT)


 * I agree with Zero, that's too plain.--
 * Read my comment above --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk) The 'Shroom  11:11, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, the problem is that I don't really know what fact to put...--

In my opinion, it seems a little silly to base the three 'Did You Know?' facts off of our newest articles solely. There are plenty of articles that were created long ago that have interesting information that could be included in that template. 15:05, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes, but it's a nice way to show what's new on the wiki. 15:16, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

It is no simple task to pick three interesting facts from new articles, while they have to be from different series, especially if a majority of the new articles contain BiS material. It was not easy to find something from Paper Mario and the Wario series between all the stuff, but I did my best. And on a side note: Saying things like "Do better, or I request removal" is kinda rude. - 16:20, 5 October 2009 (EDT)


 * I agree with Stooben. The new games are already getting lots of coverage regardless of what trivia we showcase; however, telling people interesting things about older, obscure titles will generate new interest and show people that we're not just another outlet for the latest BiS buzz. (I also agree with Edofenrir and Tucayo's opinions about the complaints...) - 00:01, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Nintendo: Da best company in 2008
According to and edition published in BussinessWeek magazine, Nintendo was declared as the best company in the world, while Google and the Apple company remain in second and third place respectively. They were rated on 2008 sales and international sales percentage. Curiuosly (or ironically) Nintendo's rivals, I mean Sony and Microsoft aren't in the list of the top 40 featured companies in the world. What do you think? Certainly impressive in my opinion 8)
 * I'm not surprised. Microsoft & Sony may have a good showing in the US, but in Europe and especially in Japan Nintendo is dominating the charts.
 * So how does this relate to the wiki? - 13:21, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Though this is a MARIOwiki, we have information about the Nintendo company and would be good to add this information at least in the article in some way...
 * Yes, it would be good to add this. It greatly surprises me, i mean, greatest from all the comanies you can imagine, wow. --http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4087/tucayosz9se5.png(talk)   16:48, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

Wrong!!
Can someone fix the main page, please? You have to go through 22 gates, not 8 in the newest Mario Kart Wii comp. --King Bean My Page! Talk to me! Visit the queen! 12:29, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
 * The main page news are taken from Template:News, and every user can fix the mistakes there. - 14:12, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

New mario game?
In his twitter page, Charles Martinet said: " Awesome new Mario Game! And it's not NSMB Wii, and it's not Galaxy 2, but it's going to be crazy fun!" Source -- 13:09, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * We wouldn't be able to cover it anyway, we don't have any information on it and it hasn't been officially confirmed by Nintendo. Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Interesting, we'll have a look out for it but right now it's not worthy of an article. How about the Front Page news though? - 13:51, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Sounds interesting. But is it known for sure that this person is actually Charles Martinet and not someone who impersonates him? Such stuff has already happen (not specifically for Martinet, but for other celebrities). --Grandy02
 * Is Twitter really the most reliable source?
 * Not really. I'm sceptical. - 14:29, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Me, too. Recently, there was a Twitter user in Germany who impersonated a major German politician on Twitter. Major news papers cited the tweets of this account, and people of political parties chatted with the "politician", the account gained thousands of followers. And this fake worked for several months. --Grandy02 14:37, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I hope noone minds, but I altered the text on that news template. As Grandy02 said, we don't know for sure that this is true. I doubt that Charles Martinet would be allowed to make such an announcement before Nintendo has confirmed anything. This whole affair stinks. - 14:51, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * If you check his previous messages, he's done it before. Still we got to be sceptical. - 14:55, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * It just sounds very unlikely for Nintendo to permit this without taking any measurements. - 14:58, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I think we should remove that from the template. We shouldn't risk putting fake news on our main page. However, if we find proof that that Twitter account really belongs to Martinet (there is no link from his homepage, for example), we can put it back, IMO. 15:32, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

If anything, it's good that this news is spreading across the internet. Because if the account is a fake one, extensive coverage on the internet is the only thing that can make Charles Martinet notice it. It's no big news so it's worth taking the risk that it might be wrong. - 15:33, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Well, even if the outcome might be good in the end, putting unconfirmed news in this section bears a certain risk. Maybe Ch. Martinet might notice the fake announcement, but on the other hand, maybe visitors might think of us as liars and such... It bears risks for our reputation and credibility... - 15:45, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Yes, and we really shouldn't worry about whether Martinet notices the account or not. We're an independent wiki. 15:51, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * It's just the news template. I don't think it is a big meter for our credibility. If it's a real faker we can just put a message up there saying that, it would also be a worthy news. We made all precautions already, so nobody can accuse us as "liars". - 15:53, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I think the info could stay like it is now. It just says the truth, that a guy at twitter who might be Charles Martinet said something about a new Mario game. With no speculation added. - 15:54, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * You're right, what's in the template is correct no matter if the account is true or fake, so we're no liars. But the question is whether we want to risk spreading fake news. I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't and that it's not "just" the news template, but a major source of information for our visitors. As long as there is no other user agreeing with me here, I have no problem with keeping it, though. 15:59, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I can understand your concern. Fans can be a little overconfident if it comes down to news. In a flash, there are new "facts" added and then we have a big heap of rumour-ruckus. I just mean if we can't reach consensus, the template would be a decent compromise as it is now. - 16:05, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

I usually read spanish videogames-involving blogs and I found recently an interview with Miyamoto about the successor for the Wii and a possible "little big planet"-style Super Mario Bros. By now he is interested that users could create their own levels since this gameplay experience is widely employed in this generation.
 * But Miyamoto only said that it was a possibility, not that it's actually being made.
 * Maybe we should simply ask Porplemontage about his opinion on this news bullet. - 16:35, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

I never said he is developing a game, he's just interested on this topic. Only I think that this matter (Miyamoto's intervew) has implied news about another new Mario game...

I mailed Charles and his Webmistress to see if that Twitter account is real -- 10:34, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Good idea. 13:17, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Wow, looks like the mails at www.charlesmartinet.com dont exist :/ -- 19:52, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
 * 2257 tried the same thing yesterday, and It didn't work either. - 19:54, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Check this out: I don't know if this will help but I figured I'd put it here just in case.
 * That the mail addresses don't work yet the Twitter page links to this totally outdated site makes me even more sceptical. By the way, the particular tweet with the "it's not NSMB Wii, and it's not Galaxy 2" has been removed. Anyway, the account got more than a thousand new followers since it is linked here. --Grandy02 05:55, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

Well, apparently it was not a Mario game -- 15:43, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

DS successor to appear late 2010?
It's not confirmed, it's some flying rumor for now. http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/13/nvidia-tegra-wins-contract-for-next-gen-nintendo-ds.aspx Basically some company nVidia Tegra is going to partner up with Nintendo in 2010/2011 time frame to create the successor of the DS. Here's an excerpt from the article.

'Given the fact that Nintendo DS hardware is based upon 16-bit and 32-bit ARM cores, it looks like Next-Gen DS could be backwards compatible with the DS application library. According to our sources, all of the apps that came for old DS could run on a single ARM11 core, yet alone the next-gen CorTex-A9-based Tegra, leaving graphics subsystem to do "something smarter".


 * I found that info, too, if nintendo uses this new video card for the next handheld console, it will more powerful than the wii. However it's just a rumor and it's unlikely that this can be thrue; think about the success that is getting the DS now...

By successor do you mean DS4 right? Nintendo wouldn't make another DS until 2011-2012 since the DSi was just released back in April. And stronger than the Wii? I doubt that. That is very likely fake.

I read this earlier, along with the spiking rumors of the Wii HD when Shiggy favored nice graphics while focusing on the gameplay, Shiggy and Nintendo I hear. I think this is considered true, since there's no "Rumor" or "???" in the titles. :P However, we remain unsure if the next gen DS will be released next year, or the year after that. If you guys want to know about the Wii HD rumor spike, here: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/miyamoto-on-hd-graphics-nintendos-games-will-move-along-with-progression-of-technology/

Error With Patrolling?
I think I might have found an error with Patrolling: Whenever a Sysop or Bureaucrat marks a revision as Patrolled, it is logged. however, whenever a Patroller marks a revision as Patrolled, it doesn't show up in the log. I don't know if this means that the patrolling aspect of patrollers doesn't work, or if it just isn't show8ing up in the logs. Either way, I feel that this needs to be fixed. 10:55, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
 * Patrollers can't mark their own edits as patrolled. It has always been that way. And as far as I know, it can't be fixed. - 14:01, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I don't know if SMB is speaking of the same thing but a similar point I brought up in chat yesterday is that we patrollers don't have the capability of directly marking a revision as patrolled, so we always have to use "Patrol edits" to do so. It would be much handier if we had a "mark this edit as patrolled" button, so we can mark something as reviewed directly, instead of having to wait that the revision pops up in "Patrol edits" some time. - 14:52, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
 * This can be fixed by putting this in LocalSettings.php: "$wgGroupPermissions['patrollers']['patrol'] = true;" Yoshario''' [[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
 * Actually, that is a good issue as well, but I meant the patrol log. Whenever Patrollers patrol (and mark OTHER people's edits as patrolled) it doesn't show up in the log. 20:56, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I always thought it was silly that Patrollers weren't given autopatrol for their edits, and by the sounds of it they can't even patrol other edits with the same ease as higher Admins, so why are they even called Patrollers? I impulsively patrol everything on Recent Changes, but I rarely have to fix Patroller's edits and I'd just as soon let them be without watching over their shoulders - save the red exclamation marks for edits that probably do require attention. - 18:02, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

Launchballer
I'm not sure if I'm in the right place, but are burgers allowed here?--Launchballer 18:58, 31 October 2009 (EDT)
 * What is this about? - 09:22, 1 November 2009 (EST)
 * Im sure he is a troll -- 11:17, 1 November 2009 (EST)

Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Templates
Should we make a templates of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story with the Status(HP,SP,Pow,Def,etc.) of the enemies?--MATEOELBACAN 12:28, 1 November 2009 (EST)
 * Yes, but remember to make it thoughtfully ;3 - 18:57, 3 November 2009 (EST)

I recently see one on the Dark Star article,Congratulations for made them,they looks Excellent! :D--MATEOELBACAN 21:13, 5 November 2009 (EST)


 * What about mine...-_- Template:WLSI and Template:WMOD. They weren't easy at all, especially the Wario Land Shake It one. Also, I like the template of the BISenemy also.--

You too xD--MATEOELBACAN 15:09, 6 November 2009 (EST)

Mario Awards IV
I'd like to pass on control of Mario Awards IV to St00by, and personally suggest keeping it at 30 Mario Awards and 10 Fail Awards – 50 ended up being too much last year. I still will host the actual polls since I'd like the $200 commitment to be worth something, and they worked very very well last year. If St00by could get AIM, I am still on there as WayoshiM everyday talking to Price is Right and Wheel of Fortune pals and I can be consulted there.

Otherwise...I am done with this place on a regular basis. Nothing really went wrong...I think I outgrew this place. Chat is pretty much a dump, I never got into the forum, and even though I contributed BiS clothing recently, I don't have the drive to contribute the project on a level that Mario Kart DS was (I consider that the highest peak). And then somehow, I never was able to maintain a power position for various reasons...and I still have major grudges against Steve overall, but I guess I'm going to have to let that go now.

Thank you everyone for the memories, and I will check in every once in awhile,

at 21:45, 1 November 2009 (EST).
 * Bye Wayoshi, you will be missed.
 * For me, what the Mario awards always greatly lacked was a readable results list without the forum crap around it. I always participated in the voting, but never found out the results. - 15:29, 6 November 2009 (EST)