Talk:Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey

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Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey

Changes between the original DS game: The teleportation hole is red The title theme is different The sounds and music are much more realistic Fawful seems to have a new voice actor Cutscenes are done in 3D The battle intro syncs with the battle music's intro where a star spins and shows the battle on the lower screen The game is way easier to understand as icons show the right command inputs to counterattack Level Up Screen is the same as Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions Bowser seems to have 5 Ranks instead of 4 When Bowser pulls the island with Broque Monsieur, a flow of water remains on the standard land Fire Sparks and Swirls are depicted in the Flame Pipe If you counterattack by Jumping on Scutlet's tounge, the tounge becomes squiggly Even though not translated, there are some options regarding Special Attacks The sparks that Mario & Luigi hit in the Arm Muscle minigame is modeled after Suns for Mario and Saturns for Luigi.


 * The Broque Monsier Battle is Shorter & you only inhale him once & the battle ends after that.

A Map is seen at the Top or Bottom Screen (with a small circle showing the characters) when you play as Bowser or the Mario Bros while inside Bowser.

The emergency guard was added for Mario and Luigi (using the Y button).

Bowser Boss Ring
Does anyone know if they added a Gauntlet for Bowser? Fawful (talk) 23:27, 28 December 2018 (EST)


 * Kinda. They added one for the giant bosses, though I don't think they did so for the normal Bowser bosses. Cheat-master30 (talk) 02:25, 30 December 2018 (GMT)

Bibless Bowser Jr.
In the reveal trailer shown in the Nintendo Direct of 3/8/18, Bowser Jr. isn’t wearing his mask on his body when he is seen rolling on a Blorbed person, while he has it in the cutscene of the actual game. Is that technically a beta element.
 * It would probably count as pre-release and unused content, not a beta element, as per Good writing, "Beta" refers to the period in software development where a product is feature-complete, but has yet to be extensively bug-tested or optimized. This usually happens long after things like concepts being rejected, characters being cut from the game... etc. "Beta" should not be used as a shorthand for "things that changed during development". More precise terms such as "cut," "unused," "concept art" or simply "early" should be used instead. Of course, this does not apply if the information is confirmed to be from an actual beta build. So unless we know that the fact that Bowser Jr. is not wearing his bandana is from the specific beta phase in development it would be better to classify this under pre-release and unused content. 17:16, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Boss and Enemy Statistics
Can we get the different statistics for all the enemies and bosses as soon as they are known? They are known currently to be different from the DS version


 * We can, it may take a while due to the fact that the game just released in Japan, and once they are known they will most likely be added to either this article or the enemies's articles. 16:29, 5 January 2019 (EST)

SS Company
I may add a page on these guys soon, given they're the main villains of Bowser Jr's Journey. They're the group of three mysterious characters shown here:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/a3rj/assets/images/junior/ss_p.png

And consist of Sulimu (guy with yellow tie), Muchio (big guy) and Kyutto/Kyut (blue haired girl). They're a pharmacutical corporation that apparently promises a cure for the Blorbs, but turn out to be working for Fawful instead, and merge into that giant monster seen in the bosses video for the final battle.

The SS stands for 'Shun Satsu' apparently.

Not sure if that's enough to start writing a page here yet, but that's what translations have said so far, and it's probably gonna be the subject of an article on my gaming news site at some point too.

Cheat-master30 (talk) 20:22, 07 January 2019 (GMT)

I would wait until the game releases in english.

User:Sdman213 (talk)

In the English Version they are The Best Fitness Friends.

Actually, (SPOILER) they're Brute Force Federation.Pikmin theories (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2019 (EST)

How did you know that.

Was going to say the same. Here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7YI-Djqs0gM Best Fitness Friends is a cover name.

misplaced cutscene
I just got the game and unless i'm mistaken I think I found an error. In Dimble Wood, Bowser Jr. gets caught in Bowser's suction (Bowser is not shown) as they had just eaten the vacuum shroom, and then in the next level (I'm pretty sure you have to clear the previous level to get to it) Fawful is talking about how he's planning on tricking bowser into thinking he won a lucky shroom. which going by the previous cutsene should have already happened. Pikmin theories (talk) 20:55, 11 January 2019 (EST)

Music Player
I've always wondered if there is an unlockable Music Player in this game? Because I know Dream Team Bros all the way up to Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions had a music player. It would be such a shame if they didn't have a music player in this game. Platinum Lucario (talk) 00:27, 12 January 2019 (EST)

It actually is, but now there is a difference. As you progress through the game including Bowser Jr.'s Journey, music will be added along with original music. MarioGamerFan24 (talk) 14:27, 12 January 2019 (EST)

Plot
So, when is the story and plot going to be up for the game? Some of my friends were curious, and I don’t want to start up anything important myself... thanks. PianoKing03 (talk) 01:13, 14 January 2019 (EST)
 * Game just came out, so it'll be added when someone gets around to it. The Bowser's Inside Story plot is the same as the original game, and I think Bowser Jr.'s Journey revolves around Bowser Jr. trying to figure out where Bowser went. 01:25, 14 January 2019 (EST)

Yeah, and in fact, I’ve played the entire game myself, but I was just curious for their sake... I’m terrible at starting up new sections, so I’ll let someone like Mister Wu or another prolific member work with the initiation. Thanks for the heads-up! PianoKing03 (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2019 (EST)

Bestiary
It is known that the enemy and boss stats have been changed for the 3DS remake, so I'm just asking where this information comes from or if anyone is able to look into the game's files at this point in time and start adding to this game's bestiary. I am aware of Dark Bowser's HP is now 1260, but other's I do not.
 * I was going to ask the same thing! --Carlos M (talk) 06:59, 2 February 2019 (EST)

I uploaded Dark Star's theme.
So, when anyone is up for the task, can you add it to the Media section, please? I'm currently not allowed to edit this page. --  Tent2   16:26, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
 * Way ahead of you! 16:29, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
 * I can't believe I had to check the recent changes page after posting this to find out that it already was there. -- [[File:Shroob_Walking.gif]] Tent2  [[File:Shroob_Walking.gif]] 16:29, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
 * Well, I literally added it within a minute of you posting here, already having the mindset that it needed to be in the mainspace as soon as it was uploaded, since that's just we do things on the wiki after all. 18:05, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Revise/expand list of changes section
Just a suggestion, I was wondering if perhaps we could remodel the list of changes section a bit, maybe make it a bit more divided. I know that it is already classified into sections like gameplay changes and visual and audio changes and stuff like that, but I was thinking we could move some details around into different categories, specifically a "Bros/Brawl Attack" section. Refer to the Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions article, for example (Items, badges, puzzles, minigames, etc.)

I feel like this will help MarioWiki users to better find the changes they need. Please let me know ASAP, as I'll be more than happy to get started on this.--WigglyWiggler (talk) 16:46, April 29, 2019 (EDT)

(Never mind, I just realized I can't edit that page yet. Would like to see someone get started on this, though.) --WigglyWiggler (talk) 21:17, April 29, 2019 (EDT) ''

Another Audio Change
When Mario rescues Starlow and when both Mario and Luigi unlock hammers, the jingle used when Bowser gets the Vacuum Block is used instead of the regular item get jingle.

List of changes suggestions
Hey guys. I've been working on the "List of changes" section a lot recently, and I think I did a pretty good job. But I know that there are some changes that I'm missing, so if there is anything that happen you notice, please put it in this section and I will check back and add it to the article. Please be sure to space between sentences so I know how many there are, and don't make any suggestions about changes that have already been added to the article. --WigglyWiggler (talk) 18:51, May 10, 2019 (EDT)

List of Clothing
Can someone who has experience with coding start working on List of clothing in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey? I would do it, but I don't know anything about coding. Fawful (talk) 13:40, July 15, 2019 (EDT)

Question
Can you please make a list of ?-Blocks in Mario & Luigi Games?
 * This isn't the right article to request it. I know that Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time has a list of blocks and other features, but someone has to create the table for them for the other articles. 15:03, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * (Edit conflict) :I'm iffy on having a separate page of all the ? Blocks just within that series, assuming those blocks are even ? Blocks as opposed to just Blocks. You can try to expand on the Block page, but the way that page's set up, without any expansion for other series (like listing Dice Blocks), it'll look weird to have a focus on Mario & Luigi. A bit of discussion might be needed whether it's useful to have a section on blocks throughout the series in the Block article or just keep a list of types of blocks in the respective game pages, something that Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time article does. 15:09, December 12, 2020 (EST)
 * The post-Paper Jam M&L games have a count of ? Blocks in each area. I think a list would be fine, considering it's something the game counts. 13:40, December 23, 2020 (EST)
 * Looking at the beanhole lists, even the games that don't list beanholes in-game (Superstar Saga & Partners in Time) have pages listing them here. If we create a list of blocks page for this game, it would probably be consistent to do so with the rest, even if we already have a page for Superstar Saga's hidden blocks.

Question (improved)
Could you make a list of ? Block Locations?