User talk:Results May Vary/archive 1

HD Images
Ok? It was perfect you did that 21:30, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
 * I don't think I'm able to do that (I lack the proper tools) but what I do instead is take screenshots directly from an emulator playing games. The problem is the ridiculously slow speed the emulation runs at, which means I can't be bothered to play too much.

Hence his name. 11:57, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Heads-up
You might want to consider uploading images, and then putting them to an article. --- 11:54, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

Image size vs. quality
Hello, I've noticed that you have been uploading many images which were captured from, as you stated, from YouTube via VideoLAN. The apparent benefit of this is the size, which in most cases is more desirable. However, size cannot match up to quality. Lately, you have been capturing 1000 x 1000px + png images which are of blurry quality, and tagging the good quality jpgs for deletion. Many of the older files are already of very decent quality, and replacing them for huge, but poor quality versions isn't what we encourage here. Additionally, some of your screenshots appeared stretched/squished up from the originals, which may be the nature of the YouTube video which it was captured from. We appreciate your good faith, but it was best to let you know about this. Thanks for your understanding

05:19, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

No period?

Re: The frog in Diddy Kong Pilot (2001)
In one of the Swamp courses. Here is a screenshot.

09:46, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

About mariowiki archives,
Hi HD guy! I couldn't help but notice your little conversation with Steve. Here's a solution! There's always the wayback machine! They've got allot of pages archived for all kinds of websites! :) Hope this helps!

Do you have any press material files/discs/kits?
Thanks --Hiccup (talk) 14:52, 17 March 2016 (EDT)

JPEG to PNG Policy
Keep in mind that a proposal passed a while ago prohibiting direct conversion of a JPEG to PNG, and policy was changed to reflect it. Replacing is different if you are getting the file from a BMP or other source (some imaging programs convert behind-the-scenes). Emulators generate BMPs when they render a scene, which is often saved as a PNG when the screenshot code is triggered. If your Super Mario Sunshine image reuploads are JPEGs directly converted to PNG, please revert your changes. -- 21:54, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
 * I promise that these are BMP-converted images. The HD Guy (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Alright then. It annoys me when people think that PNG means higher quality. Not necessarily. PNG means that all RGB pixel data is preserved, hence why it is referred to as a lossless format. JPEG purposely loses pixel data depending on quality settings, hence why it is referred to as a lossy format. Here's a video that I think other people should see: -- 19:00, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Any Images Referenced by The Shroom
If any images are being used by The 'Shroom, remove the game category and tag the image with instead of. Talk to Tucayo and he will delete exact or near exact copies of images and change the appropriate editorials. -- 19:22, 23 June 2017 (EDT)
 * Okay, please remind me if I forget. I should hopefully remember. The HD Guy (talk) 21:04, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Mario No1
Hi there. A recently created account named shares your IP address. Do you know who this is? 16:10, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
 * Someone registered that in my area but ended up never using the account. The HD Guy (talk) 14:16, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Reply: Daang
Haha thank you! :D Right place, right time for me I suppose. While I'm at it, thanks for tagging that stuff. I've been looking for more maintenance work to do lol. -- 09:08, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Not as familiar with Conker, but I'll certainly keep it in mind. What kind of maintenance work do you need assistance with? -- 18:36, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Ah, OK. Grammar is definitely something I could help with. I'll set up an account and take a look. -- 18:42, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * You're welcome! :) And yeah, totally. I'm on a few other wikis, but this is by far the one I've done the most with. -- 18:49, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Looks good, looks a lot like one you would expect here. -- 14:14, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I thought so lol, it's no problem at all. I do stuff like that too; take something that already exists and put my own spin on it. -- 14:24, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

.png
If you have a .png version of an image you have acquired somewhere, and the version being replaced is a .jpg, you'll need to upload it as a whole new file. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:44, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Well i'm converting psd's from this MKDD press kit from assemblergames to png. not jpg->png. The HD Guy (talk) 12:50, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * That's what I hoped you were doing. I was responding to your comment on the group art. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:51, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * doesn't feel right to revert from png to jpg though. But anyway, the large MKDD group art -- that was psd -> jpg The HD Guy (talk) 12:52, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Could you not have gone .psd->.png? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:54, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * No because the output was 25MB. The HD Guy (talk) 12:56, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Ahhhh.....also, please remember to not use the word "beta" unless it is specifically confirmed to come from a beta build, as that's a specific time in development, not all of development. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:59, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
 * Ok, and yeah i like the term "pre-release" or "early" more as well. The HD Guy (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

Hey
Just wanted to let you know I found this message you wrote to Doc to be slightly condescending. I understand the frustration that comes from having edits reversed, but still, you might want to take it down one notch. rollerC (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 * That's why i'm trying to prevent drama. I just don't like when people act like admins when they really are not. The HD Guy (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Yeeeeeah, about that, on here, the powers granted to admins basically amount to being able to block people and delete stuff. Anyways, aboutfile descriptions are intended to be concise, and don't need to be in full grammatical sentences, as those can end up a little obfuscative. Anyways, if you're going to refer to someone's "behavior towards other users," don't do it as rudely as possible. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Doc was trying to help make the description clearer, alongside tagging it with the right template. There was no need to say something like that, but do be careful that an edit war doesn't happen. 16:35, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 * (Admins can also edit guideline pages, forgot that.) Anyways, Alex reverted the description back to mine, but then was edited back to basically what it was originally before any of this by a conflagrative infant friend of mine. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
 * Was that last bit really necessary? rollerC (talk) 16:43, 2 August 2018 (EDT)

TSR TTYD
Those are not necessarily going to be assembled accurately there, either. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2018 (EDT)

PNG Optimization
I see you are using. Remember RAP's page PNG Monster? I edited the source code of the program and came up with PNG Monstrous. -- 20:41, 2 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Oh haha, i thought PNG Monstrous was just a nickname for PNG Monster. Thank you for showing this to me. The HD Guy (talk) 20:43, 2 August 2018 (EDT)

The File:SMBSS title card.png appears to be different from the original image. The "tm" is in a different spot. What version of the show are you watching? 16:28, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * The SMBSS dvd boxset. The HD Guy (talk) 16:29, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Well, in any case, we can probably keep both images and mark what's different. 16:30, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Sure. That sounds like a good idea. The HD Guy (talk) 16:31, 3 August 2018 (EDT)

Image Uploads
Over the course of my editing, I have been an avid pusher of having images meet certain standards. When I first started that page, I was hoping to get it to be a policy or help page. Now, the project is dormant with progress, but I still reference it from time to time for users that upload screenshots that could be done better. If my comments seem to suggest to delete your uploads, as you thought on 's talk page, it's more of a concern that uploads meet certain quality minimums instead of playing it fast and loose, which I have seen with much older uploads with my casual browsing. Pre-release and unused content is trickier to judge compared to full releases. Generally, I don't touch any of it for any reason. There have been some cases where I uploaded better than what we had, like File:Mpaint.jpg or E3 2007 images in List of Super Mario Galaxy pre-release and unused content. -- 23:42, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Okay, well i could tell you're an avid pusher. In fact, have you seen my edits? I'm quite avid at it as well--i dug through like every press kit yesterday and this morning to upload the remaining of what you have not from the press kits. idk i just misrepresented your statement. i thought you implied you'd want that one deleted. and i agree with how it's harder to tell with pre-release, especially because press kits have convertible images to PNG format. Really, in short, thanks for being into high-res images. The HD Guy (talk) 23:53, 3 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I have seen people upload images larger than a console can produce. This is common with 3D games because we can upscale in emulation without causing pixilation (textures on 3D surfaces get blurry and fuzzy though). N64 game screenshot uploads have this issue with editors in general because 640x480 is the default resolution on certain emulators by default and those editors believe this is what the N64 truly does. I found out this is mostly wrong, because a plug-in by angrylion is known to produce near-pixel-accurate screenshots. My guide has details about what happens with each plug-in. Rarely do games produce 640x480, well, it's more 640x474 for whatever reason. 320x240 is what the N64 can produce, and that is wrong again because 320x237 is what angrylion does in those instances. Not sure why 3/6 pixels are being omitted. Some games can change resolution dynamically too, so it's never one resolution constantly during play! Examples:
 * Pokémon Stadium 640x474
 * Pokémon Stadium 320x237
 * Pokémon Stadium 2 640x474
 * Pokémon Stadium 2 320x237
 * Mario Artist 320x237
 * Mario Artist 640x474
 * GameCube and Wii are a different story. I have noticed some games don't utilize the full 640x480 resolution, like Super Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, and Mario Kart: Double Dash!!. List here. Forcing 640x480 on such games yields slight blur. I used to do super upscaled uploads reaching beyond 720p (1600x900 at most), but I don't do that anymore because I found a minimalistic alternative which has the right balance between big enough, least blur/pixilation, and minimum impact on storage requirements.
 * What I am trying to say is, I won't do high resolution with those games. I will do minimum. That may mean putting some N64 uploads at 320x237 or GameCube/Wii games at around 640x480. No higher. Widescreen is a challenge though because it is faked. -- 13:21, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I see, i'll keep that in mind for next time The HD Guy (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

If you can, try to use the angrylion plug-in for Project64. Follow my recommended settings. They often produce accurate screenshots. So little chance for emulator glitches or anything easily overlooked when screenshooting. TCRF recommends it too, but they are a little dated with how to take screenshots. Mine is more up-to-date. -- 23:11, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Goosespeeder, my computer lagged like crazy when i tried to run that graphics plugin. I've been trying Glide64 at 240p as second best option? The HD Guy (talk) 23:12, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Didn't realize your computer wasn't powerful enough to handle angrylion. To be fair, I often run across lag too on my laptop (see my profile). Varies by game and by what is trying to be rendered at the time. There is a difference between GLideN64 and Glide64. The first is newer while the other is older, deprecated, and not by the same author. Most people who want to find that happy middleground between accuracy and speed is GLideN64. -- 23:25, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
 * This only confuses matters with N64 screen capture accuracy. GL and Glide64..I really don't see that much problem with the 240p screenshots. Maybe it's not 100% accurate but it looks close. The HD Guy (talk)
 * Both plug-ins can generate 240p screenshots. GLideN64 is more up-to-date. That's the difference. -- 23:35, 18 August 2018 (EDT)

RE: Discord/IRC
We have both! EDIT: I'm usually in Discord. I'm in IRC every now and then, but you can find some other people in both ;) 14:10, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Discord can be found at Discord servers.
 * IRC can be found here.

A suggestion
Hey, good job with the current crop of high-quality press artwork! I try not to make requests of people unless asked to, but I was just curious if it would be possible to find some higher-quality art for Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, as much of our current art for it is in very variable conditions, with most of them being rather cruddy, while others I have suspicions might be fan edits. Not sure if there's a good place to find full, good artwork for it, but I'm sure you'd be able to figure it out. If you want to, of course :). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I'll see what I can do. Thank you for complimenting. Also sorry about the edit war the other day. :) The HD Guy (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * All well and good, thanks for understanding. I'm honestly just glad to find a person who understands the "source" line in the aboutfile template. It's surprising how many people will just put a game's name for an old artwork, when it clearly did not come from the game itself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:25, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I know, right? The game name belongs in the 1= field. It's annoying, I agree. The HD Guy (talk) 15:26, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * And very unhelpful if something needs a re-scan. Particularly when it's a game that's been remade several times, with each potentially having several sets of official guidebooks to look through. I only recently realized that a lot of the artwork this site attributed to Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island is actually retouched artwork made for Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3, with the actual SMW2 artwork typically being noticeably more flat. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Yeah i made that mistake with the Boolossus art for Luigi's Mansion 3DS. Did you see? Apparently he's got teeth now. The HD Guy (talk) 15:36, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I actually hadn't figured out the difference beyond the resolution and glow color at the time, but I was a bit tired then. I'm pretty sure I was the person who noted that that was the only real change on the box art beyond the layout changes made due to spacing differences....anyways, I personally want to get some more pages of the newer Encyclopedia, as it has some retouched artwork. I cropped out some from the Lost Levels section (while making sure to avoid white dots), but then had too much college work to continue, never uploaded any, and haven't resumed that since. I had wanted to get all that done and show it on the forums to see if it would be all right to upload, but never got around to that either. I have located good-quality art for Super Mario USA, from which most Super Mario Advance artwork is derived, but haven't actually uploaded them to the site yet. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:46, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

DKC3 gallery
Until a few months ago, the DKC2 gallery was in much the same situation as the DKC3 one currently is; its current state is the fruit of a large amount of hours one night by yours truly. As for why I haven't done this with the DKC3 gallery, I got busy with college finals and ended up not getting around to it. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Understandable. On the contrary, i have a lot of free time at the moment, so it's beneficial to put that toward the wiki, especially at a time of a DK and Mario Wiki merger. The HD Guy (talk) 19:48, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Merging pages
Regarding what you did with Baffle's page, you're supposed to make a proposal before doing things like that. Please split them again for now, so as to follow within the proposal system rules. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:17, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Nobody reverted me or complained when i did that, and the articles are esentially duplicated. would you like to start the proposal The HD Guy (talk) 23:18, 12 August 2018 (EDT)

Plungelo
The "alternate" art of the Plungelo you uploaded is the same as the original one, just at a better resolution and rotated properly. (Thanks for the Monty Mole pic replacement, among others!) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:13, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
 * You're welcome. I thought it was the same one. thanks for pointing that out as well. The HD Guy (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2018 (EDT)

Reuploading sprites
Why are you uploading the exact same sprites you already have under the previous name, when all that does is get rid of the history? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:24, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Basically it's because i wanted to rename some files (like MilkSlippa.PNG), but there's a 9 capital letter limit when renaming files. when i communicated to flamechomp and alex on discord, i think they said it's ok The HD Guy (talk) 00:26, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Huh, I've never ran into that problem. Is the extension counted in that? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:28, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * It is, yeah--the PNG extension. You can't rename it either. I originally planned to add SNES in the titles but decided to leave it out from sprites of the original DKC. This makes it less likely to hit the limit but i think a lowercase extension is often preferred. I also have been trying to resource from Spriters Resource when ripping/uploading these sprites.
 * Most of the DKC series rips on TSR are fairly old (they factored into their wallpaper many years back), so it's not unlikely the original uploads (~2010) came from there initially. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:34, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * They did. Sometimes I like to re-rip in case i think a pose could be improved or something like that. Make sense? or flip the images to the common in-game orientation. The HD Guy (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

I'm not sure why it doesn't work on your end, but moving capitalised "PNG" files seems to work fine for me. If you'd like, you can upload any modified versions of the original file as newer versions of that file and tag them with so it can be moved instead of deleted with the original upload history intact. 23:51, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * I probably thought that it would be recognized by the wiki as a different extension. There might've once been a time when I edited a wiki before, and it didn't work. I think that 9 capital letter limit in filename made me think it won't. Anyway, i tried on DK Jungle Climber title screen, and thankfully that worked when moving, so I can't remember why i subconsciously thought it wouldn't move the extension. Glad to know I was wrong. Results May Vary (talk) 23:58, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * It's okay, I didn't think to do it myself until just now. Thanks for the high-quality replacements (esp. for the Ultimate stages), keep it up! 00:14, 2 September 2018 (EDT)
 * No problem, i enjoy editing wikis & helping in my spare time Results May Vary (talk) 07:13, 2 September 2018 (EDT)

Kracka
I saw a Kracka sprite get deleted in the log, and just wanted to point out that we still need the unused SNES version so as to not clash between styles in the tables. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:24, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I'm pretty sure that was the GBA version? If you want try upload a static photo on Kracka's page. Kracka goes unused in the SNES version anyway. The HD Guy (talk) 23:25, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I know, but still, it's best we have all styles, and the sprites exist. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:27, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * which filename was the SNES variant? The HD Guy (talk) 23:28, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * I don't know if we had it. I think we still need it. It's on TCRF, at the very least. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:49, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 * let me sort this out The HD Guy (talk) 23:49, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Transparency on File:Koopa_SM3DL.png
Why you wanted the August 18, 2018 revision of the file to be deleted? Syncro263892XL (talk) 21:42, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
 * If it's unofficial and done by a fan, mario wiki apparently does not support such images on the server. The HD Guy (talk) 21:51, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Typically we save deletions for repeated files, like repetitive reversions, last I checked. If there's a lot of bad revisions, then they're all deleted, but fan-made transparency in general isn't worth a revision-deletion. Again, last I checked. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:32, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Pretty much what Doc said. No need to delete a revision simply because it is fan made. A new revision should take its place, if one hasn't already. I mean I deleted all the revisions anyway, but whatever. 23:48, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
 * Okay guys. Thanks! Syncro263892XL (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

Yellow Sluggy
Thanks! I was about to upload it after i would be autoconfirmed, but you did it before i am confirmed. -- 13:10, 31 August 2018 (EDT)
 * No problem. didn't mean to steal an edit from you :P The HD Guy (talk) 13:41, 31 August 2018 (EDT)

Normal Toady sprite.
Hey, i've uploaded a Toady picture. I couldn't add transparency, since in the software i downloaded LazPaint, if you remove the transparency, and then save the file, the black will be gone, this is why i didn't use this. Note: the black doesn't go unless you save the file (doesn't count on other shades such as gray). What software do you use to add transparency? And the normal Toady sprite should be reuploaded. -- 02:53, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * You can try GIMP--that's what i use for sprite transparency. And then throw into Wildgoosespeeder's PNG Monstrous to losslessly compress the filesize The HD Guy (talk) 02:54, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * TBH, i tried to use GIMP, and it's hard to use to me! See those reupload you've done? Well, these are transparency. Here's the file: [[File:SMW2 Toady.png]] -- 02:56, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * I see you have better quality Super Mario Maker reuploads... So, you want the older ones to be deleted, right? You mean that you aren't an admin? If you want to know, me neither. -- 03:09, 1 September 2018 (EDT)
 * that's why it's lying in the To be Deleted category The HD Guy (talk) 03:10, 1 September 2018 (EDT)

RE: Image links
That doesn't mean they should be left alone. It's important they're fixed as soon as they're moved. 01:59, 5 September 2018 (EDT)

Also, make sure all of the pages that link to a file are fixed to use the new file name, as there may be pages other than just the gallery pages that link to it. They're found under "File usage" on the file page. I understand you like to work fast, but please remember to take a quick check that the image is correctly displayed before leaving it as well after renaming it. 07:08, 5 September 2018 (EDT)


 * Yeah, I do work fast. I've tried to check file usage--it's harder to check the links to a deleted filename. Alex had to leave early I believe so he deleted some before I was done. Results May Vary (talk) 09:32, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
 * Additionally, it is difficult to keep track of like hundreds of different images, so that's probably the cause of some of the mistakes. Thanks for fixing those links too. Results May Vary (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2018 (EDT)


 * Way ahead of you. ;) 09:44, 6 September 2018 (EDT)

I heard they will merge the DK Wiki with this wiki
Pdjr9000 has an account on both this wiki and the DK wiki, but he hasn't been active on DK Wiki and was permabanned here a long time ago. How will users like him who are banned in one wiki but not banned in the other move or edit? Do they just lose their abilities to edit?

19:49, 13 September 2018 (EDT)


 * If they act disruptive on this wiki as well, i'm pretty sure they'll also be banned here for reasons relating to cross-wiki drama or something Results May Vary (talk) 19:50, 13 September 2018 (EDT)

They were already banned from one wiki a long time ago. Do they not move at all?


 * I don't understand what you are trying to tell me. If the user is banned on a wiki, they are banned on that wiki. I'm pretty sure ban logs don't carry over from DK Wiki and Mario Wiki merging--unless they come back and decide to vandalize here again. I'm an admin on DK Wiki but not Mario Wiki, so this is probably more of a Mario jc or Alex95 question. Results May Vary (talk) 20:04, 13 September 2018 (EDT)

RE: Thank you
It's absolutely fine. That said, I did have a small heart attack when I saw the initial number :P Also, I did notice in the page history that Toadette tagged them for deletion, I'm aware that things may slip the mind when doing a project, but just remember to tag file redirects for deletion after you've updated all the page links you can :)

RE: Redirects
Appreciate the effort. Though I wouldn't worry too much about moving file names if the current ones describe the images well enough. I get you're trying to keep them uniform, but if the names already accurately describe what they show, that's all we need. Everyone has their own way of naming files when uploading, and as the countless other files on the wiki show, there's no set naming convention. 07:11, 17 September 2018 (EDT)
 * Yeah, Alex95 told me that too. It does seem a bit of a control-freak to move all the filenames Results May Vary (talk) 09:54, 17 September 2018 (EDT)

File uploading, deleting request and renamed username
Hey, i see that time you're uploading new files, in which the off modeled one you request to delete. Since you're not an admin/sysop nor a patroller (me neither), we can't delete them. I see that you changed your username from The HD Guy to Results May Vary. -- 08:46, 22 September 2018 (EDT)
 * Ps: What was your first username? -- 09:45, 22 September 2018 (EDT)

RE: Hi
That's okay, I know that's not your intention. It's all part of maintenance. 02:32, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Mario Party DS images
Good Job uploading the images including the duel version, do you plan add in the duel version of Block Star? -- L    151   22:09, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
 * thank you. and i'm not sure--i never emulated two-player nintendo ds. How would i go about that? i'm just getting to the last of the jpg's at the moment Results May Vary (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2018 (EDT)

Re: Image Deleted for being disrespectful?
Yes.
 * I will discuss this with the admins.

"For consideration"
I'm curious what you meant by that. If you aren't sure if something should be deleted but want it to be checked by others beforehand, use. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:51, 6 October 2018 (EDT)
 * The article is so short and all the info on there is already stated on the Mario Teaches Typing page. Results May Vary (talk) 15:52, 6 October 2018 (EDT)
 * I know, it just seemed like a really vague edit summary. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:56, 6 October 2018 (EDT)

Blasphemy
Your upload in Mario Party: The Top 100 version of Shy Guy Says is utter blasphemy!! MarioWiki strives for anti-Wario propaganda and I'm not going to let this fly under the radar without a stern reprimand by me. *shakes fists* 15:30, 9 October 2018 (EDT)
 * I was wondering if you'd notice and have a go at me over this, haha. Results May Vary (talk) 15:37, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
 * I WORKED SO HARD TO HAVE MARIO NOT DIE FOR ONCE IN THAT MINIGAME... WWHYYEHYYYYY??? 15:38, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Actually, just realized: File:Top100ShyGuySays.png. The source is nintendo of australia, not me. Please redirect any such complaints there Results May Vary (talk) 16:19, 10 October 2018 (EDT)

Barrel Maze
Do you know if it's possible to rip the soundtrack of Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze? -- 13:24, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Hi, i don't know if that's possible. I pretty much just used a QuickBMS script to decompile the game, and it managed to find the jpg offsets in the process Results May Vary (talk) 23:35, 12 October 2018 (EDT)

Subspecies
We have retired that term. Please use words like "derivative" or "variant" instead. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:15, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Gotcha, thanks for telling me. Why did they retire the term? Results May Vary (talk) 14:21, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Because it's a specific taxonomic term with a specific meaning regarding evolution. Playing dress-up does not change one's species, despite everything Majora's Mask tells me, and neither does carrying some form of blunt instrument. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:27, 25 October 2018 (EDT)

NES palettes
Technically, there's no such thing as a wholly-accurate NES palette, as unlike many later systems, they vary greatly depending on the region, television set (or comparable apparatus), or emulator being used. That said, some are more accurate than others. TSR has lots of variance in quality regarding that with older rips. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Yeah i just remember being told that typical 256x224px fceux-quality nes is outdated. They request 256x240px captures on TCRF? Results May Vary (talk) 14:38, 25 October 2018 (EDT)

Hi
Would you mind also applying PNG Monstrous to File:Right On PM unused badge.png as well? Thanks! 14:22, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
 * OK done, is there any reason why you cannot run PNG Monstrous yourself? Results May Vary (talk) 14:23, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
 * It doesn't run properly on my computer. 14:30, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Also, would you mind applying PNG monstrous to the following images?
 * File:A - unused smash charge.PNG
 * File:A - unused jump charge.PNG
 * File:A - unused mad.PNG
 * File:A - unused ultra jump.PNG
 * File:A - unused Ultra Smash.PNG
 * Thanks! 22:37, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Done, thanks for informing me. I also re-ripped them from Spriters Resource to be more precise. Results May Vary (talk) 23:59, 30 October 2018 (EDT)

Question
Would it be possible to get the King Boo and Bowser suit platinum frame as a big image? DryBowzillaJP (talk) 19:58, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Yep, I just added them for you in Gallery:King Boo. Thanks for reminding me--gotta have those out by Halloween time Results May Vary (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

Great, now don't forget about filling the LM gallery with that when you have the time. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:11, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

Bigger Ghost Gallery images
You're welcome. Could the rest be bigger too? DryBowzillaJP (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
 * No this is as large as the textures can get. Bowser and King Boo's portrait is 2x as large as the other portraits, so it makes sense it's larger. I added a few more large portraits in the LM3DS screenshots. Results May Vary (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2018 (EDT)

Oh okay well thanks for telling me. It sucks that the others are small. Though good thing the King Boo and Suit Bowser is big. Also someone made a remake of that image if you wanna see it? DryBowzillaJP (talk) 18:36, 30 October 2018 (EDT)
 * Sure what does the file look like? Results May Vary (talk) 23:37, 30 October 2018 (EDT)

DKC item info
Hello. I really like how you have formatted those DKC2 levels lately, but I find those location details for minor items, such as banana coins and extra lives, to be a bit too much. They aren't as "sought" as DK Coins and Kremkoins, which are more interesting because they actually help complete the game. In my opinion, eliminating the task of adding that kind of info would absolve anyone from tedious additional work with little pay-off just to keep everything consistent across pages. This is just a suggestion, it's all up to you. That being said, putting elements from a level in tables is something really neat that I would like to see implemented in more pages. I have also discussed this with. -- 20:29, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * I know it's not as sought after but it does still count as a fact. The information is mentioned on the corresponding DK Wiki article, and that wiki is being dismantled and merged here, so i want to try and get every bit of info from there that I can, even small, minor details (to give the reader something new). Of course, it's pretty much up to the writer on what to include and what to not. I just like to implement the information that I can. Results May Vary (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2018 (EST)
 * Alright, fair enough. -- 06:26, 8 November 2018 (EST)

Banana count
Should I also count the bananas on the End of Level Target roulette? Right now, I count the ones in bonus rooms and warp rooms, but I'm not sure about the goal ones. I think some levels have two amounts of bananas on the goal roulette. So, do those count? Do I put something like "11 bananas are on the End of Level Target"? Or do I just add them to the total? Scrooge200 (talk) 17:55, 9 November 2018 (EST)
 * I wouldn't add them to the total. What I do is say "prizes from the End of Level Target include banana, banana bunch coin, etc." at the very end of the level layout section. Don't add them to the total. Results May Vary (talk) 18:38, 9 November 2018 (EST)
 * Okay, thank you! Scrooge200 (talk) 18:41, 9 November 2018 (EST)
 * No problem, thanks so much for helping out. It's exhausting to do the level articles, especially when you try and merge DK Wiki revision + its images in as well. Results May Vary (talk) 18:42, 9 November 2018 (EST)

Is having a banana count even a good idea? What about all those ones hidden in unassuming places in the ground in the first DKC? Not the ones in the holes that break open, but ones that are accessed seemingly at random through the hand slap? At least I seem to recall that occurring.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:46, 9 November 2018 (EST)
 * I mean why not? It doesn't have to be this complicated--that we debate over whether or not it's a good idea. I've already explained that none of us are obligated to add the total count (based on the map at dkcatlas.com/maps/), let alone any level info at all. I've explained why I think it's a good idea to add them. Maybe the reader can use that count to calculate how many extra lives it's possible to get from the level. Results May Vary (talk) 09:49, 10 November 2018 (EST)

Re:DKC2 Level Pages
Okay, thanks for responding. Scrooge200 (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2018 (EST)

Reply: Discord
Hi, sorry, I haven't visited Discord in awhile. What would you like to know? -- 05:58, 18 November 2018 (EST)
 * It's not really my call, but you have my blessing. Thank you for reaching out to me though. :) -- 21:25, 18 November 2018 (EST)

Dark Blue Yoshi .png
What about the initial, larger revision with the transparent background? Sorry if I'm just missing the obvious, I've spent all day trying to finish a 3D model for school, being the first time I've done a full human model, and am mentally exhausted right now. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:04, 25 November 2018 (EST)
 * What is the image link? I dont see it Results May Vary (talk) 11:46, 25 November 2018 (EST)
 * File:Yoshidarkblue.jpg oh this one. yeah it was obviously a jpg converted to png. Results May Vary (talk) 11:52, 25 November 2018 (EST)

Cherries
All but the SMA ones had separate images already. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
 * Ok thanks for telling me about it Results May Vary (talk) 21:27, 30 November 2018 (EST)

Criss Kross Cliffs
That image was originally a different color because it was taken after making the Knautilus appear. This gives Krematoa's map, as well as all of its levels, a red tint. 22:00, 5 December 2018 (EST)
 * Had no idea about that. Thanks for telling me. Maybe we should mention in the article? Results May Vary (talk) 16:27, 6 December 2018 (EST)
 * It's mentioned in the world's article, as it applies to all levels there. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:40, 6 December 2018 (EST)
 * Yeah but I detailed it specifically for Criss Kross Cliffs and explained the tint in the GBA version. Results May Vary (talk) 18:10, 6 December 2018 (EST)

Klobber Karnage
Thanks for the DK Wiki login! However, to edit most of the wiki's pages, I need to be autoconfirmed. Would it be possible for you to autoconfirm me? Scrooge200 (talk) 19:00, 14 December 2018 (EST)
 * What pages are you able to edit? Results May Vary (talk) 19:03, 14 December 2018 (EST)
 * None of them, as far as I can tell. Scrooge200 (talk) 19:07, 14 December 2018 (EST)
 * I'll go ask porple Results May Vary (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2018 (EST)
 * I can edit now. Thanks! Scrooge200 (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2018 (EST)
 * You're welcome. Thank porple, the website admin Results May Vary (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2018 (EST)

K. Rool KoS art
A transparent version definitely does exist, as I recall seeing it with a different background in a magazine ad around the time of its release. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:34, 1 January 2019 (EST)
 * Yeah, unfortunately the source I found was in JPG. i still love the quality of it though Results May Vary (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2019 (EST)

GBA and models
Oh, it can (see the Monkey Ball games on the system), just not complex ones. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2019 (EST)
 * Thanks for letting me know Results May Vary (talk) 18:39, 17 January 2019 (EST)

Where do you keep getting all this stuff
I keep seeing you with press kits and things like that, but this is where I just have to ask you, how? How do you get ahold of this stuff? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2019 (EST)
 * It's useful to have contacts to talk with. Basically, it was sold on Amazon Japan, and Forest of Illusion helped me by telling of someone he knew in Japan. I pitched in 120 dollars, and he did the rest. About 2 days later, the thing arrived and it was dumped online for all (including you) to enjoy. As for press assets, I just know someone who collects press assets, and has helped me with that (PidgiNet also has a wiki with a collection of it and the artwork). Results May Vary (talk) 23:35, 21 January 2019 (EST)
 * OK, well as long as it stays the-same-level-or-more legal to downloading ROMs for old games one physically can't get otherwise, fine by me. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Ad images
Just a precaution, you should probably try to avoid uploading images having "advert" in the title, as most ad-blocking software causes them to be hidden. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Objective
"Object of the game" is indeed a phrase. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2019 (EST)
 * Right, thanks for letting me know Results May Vary (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2019 (EST)

Re: Many Thanks
Thank you! I'm glad to help out. Scrooge200 (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2019 (EST)

"dont like how my dkcr extras edit was reverted though"
I'm not against making a standard format for DK tables, such as that with shades of brown. In fact, I used it myself for this section. But make sure you adapt it for the table's scope, instead of just forcing it in there (see how neat the control table looks, where each move is associated to a certain button by color).

Your edit on the DKCR extras page was reverted because the color-coded sections had a reason, as explained in the paragraph before the table, and you scrapped that. And the Scrapbook table is frankly more confusing to navigate now, whereas previously each page along with its contents was divided by a color. It's better to use colors constructively to guide the reader's eyes between associated cells, than making a confusing hodge-podge. -- 18:11, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 * It's extra code used though, and it doesnt seem necessary? Results May Vary (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 * If it has a reason for being "extra", it's not extra. -- 18:14, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 * Thanks for the Scrapbook page, i like it. Looks nicer. How is the dkcr extras one? i know i just like the donkey kong colors used between pages, rather than light blue, gray, and orange links. Results May Vary (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 * It looks good now. The original color palette of blue and gray was used to reflect the predominant colors in the game's own Extras menu, but standardizing the table is no problem and I like how it turned out in the end. Thank you! Keep up the good work. -- 18:57, 10 February 2019 (EST)
 * No prob, thanks for forgiving me. Also, i should've rephrased my edit summary. i'm just tired and anxious, which isnt an excuse but i dont make the best decisions in such a mood. Results May Vary (talk) 19:01, 10 February 2019 (EST)

Hi
How are you? 22:25, 24 February 2019 (EST)
 * Oh hey, long time no see. Thanks for checking in with me. I'm good, how are you? Results May Vary (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2019 (EST)
 * I'm pretty good right now, not really investing time editing wikis, but I hop back then and then. 17:14, 25 February 2019 (EST)

The word "remake"
Please take a look here. While I'm not very picky about it, some users are, so be careful. Always best to strive for accuracy anyways. And yes, I know that it's not a straight up enhanced port, as Rare needed to rip the graphics from emulators, but calling it a "remake" isn't the most accurate term either. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2019 (EST)
 * Thank you for informing me. I'll try and remember this Results May Vary (talk) 21:21, 25 February 2019 (EST)

Re:Starting Wiki
I'd prefer to wait to tackle what would be an objectively larger challenge just due to how awfully-written the current CB wikia is in comparison to Zeldawiki sourcing and grouping badly. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:56, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * Zeldapedia: Wikia, lists different game iterations of bosses in different articles.
 * Zeldawiki: Kisses up to Dark Horse's translations even though it's clear that's foolhardy, and insists on misusing "canon" to include what they want to call articles.
 * Zelda Dungeon: Fanart haven.
 * Anyways, I consider these three to be beyond repair at this point. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:02, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * I don't know, this certainly won't be a near future thing given my current workload. I'm hoping to replace the current NIWA Zeldawiki, though, given their demonstrated incompetence. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:25, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * They moved into gamepedia within 2 years ago, iirc. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:50, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * It's not out of spite. <_> They were once pretty good, they've just gotten entrenched in a flawed manner of sourcing and splitting (which isn't even consistent) and I think it's gone past the event horizon on whether it's worth attempting to fix it directly. You know the situation with the English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia? Multiply that by two or three, and have the wiki accept it as gospel truth over the games' own instruction manuals and in some cases the games themselves (with the sole exception of if one mohawked crocidilian enemy is identified as another on two separate pages, they call that a mistake). That's what we're talking about here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:55, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * Yeah I know, that's why I sent that link to LTL a few days ago. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2019 (EST)
 * It could work, potentially, though a few of the already-existing elements seem a little unnecessary. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:50, 9 March 2019 (EST)
 * Mah boi, the alternate "timeline" differentiation (ie the kind visible on the Stalfos page) is not what this true warrior strives for. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2019 (EST)
 * I see. There's a word I want to say, but it would be deemed frightfully vulgar in a grand majority of company. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:57, March 12, 2019 (EDT)

DK Wiki account
On the Dkwiki you cannot currently create an account or edit without one, and I want to help with the merge by tagging merged pages with the delete template. Alex95 recommended for me to ask if you can create an account for me, which is what I am asking. Thanks! 17:06, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 * Sure, hold on. Results May Vary (talk) 17:45, 7 March 2019 (EST)

Re:Triforce Wiki
What is "shoutwiki," anyway? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:37, March 14, 2019 (EDT)

Oh, is Triforce Wiki yours? I didn't realize. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:00, March 25, 2019 (EDT)

OK then. I'll see what I can do for it in due time. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:23, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * I've just been busy is all. I was also waiting for the Oracle sprites to be re-re-ripped on TSR with proper palettes. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:53, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * There probably was, but I can't remember. I want to avoid the false conflation and separation a lot of the English translations gave (Link to the Past comes to mind), which is a pitfall the NIWA ZeldaWiki fell into majorly, and the others didn't do much better on. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:44, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
 * For the record, I am very much interested in this independent wiki; however, I can only have room to keep track of one wiki in the immediate future. I do plan on helping around sooner or later. LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:29, May 12, 2019 (EDT)
 * I think it has the potential to lead somewhere great! Just a head's up - whenever I'm "in the zone" on something (either on or off wiki), I tend to put off messages if they're not urgent. LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:41, May 12, 2019 (EDT)

Oh no, don't worry. If anything, I'm suspicious of Zelda Dungeon. I think it's commendable that you've brought it up transparently and want to listen to our opinions on the matter. My point was that, if a reason you are considering it is because management of the wiki is too hard on yourself, then I understand and won't hold any hard feelings if you choose to accept. So while I'm wary of Zelda Dungeon's motives and I think we've laid out thoughts overall against merging on the table, I also believe that the decision whether to go through with it or not is totally your call as the founder to make in the end, though it may be worth exploring other options if they are really willing to work with us. In the meantime, I'll be treating things like business as usual like the others. I hope that clears things up. Having said that, it would be best to limit discussion of Triforce Wiki here going forward since we can centralize our wiki-related discussions there (and because Alex95 asked Doc and I nicely and I want to respect that). LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:55, July 19, 2019 (EDT)

Nintendo Europe Art Stuff (Mario related, of course)
Hey, RMV - I see that you've been doing your best to relay all that art asset stuff from the Nintendo of Europe end; just one question, are you keeping tabs on respective places there to see if any "better quality" updates have been posted in regards to Mario Tennis Aces and Super Mario Party? Because I'm very sure in regards to this wiki, we're still patiently waiting for better quality arts to definitely surface for the two games, especially the former. --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 09:46, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * I will see if there is anything regarding those two games. Thank you Results May Vary (talk) 11:04, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, but what I meant is in terms of the character art material stuff themselves regarding Mario Tennis Aces. We hoped that the rest of the character/promo art assets would have surfaced before the game's actual release; but still no breakthroughs on that end. I'm still waiting for us to get our hands on specified ones which haven't had their high resolution "source versions" surface yet to this day. --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 15:08, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * I know this may be a "personal case", but I (and certain others) were hoping that these pictures would have surfaced in their original "source versions" before resizing on websites. Specifically this picture, this picture, this picture, and especially this picture. To this day, the press sites/assets libraries in relation to Nintendo (any region) still don't have them added for us to have, if I'm not mistaken. --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 15:16, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * Beats me, but is my assumption right that the respective areas still don't have said MTA promo arts that I have listed above added on their end? --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 15:21, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ugh, that's sick; still can't give up though. Hopefully we'll get them eventually, especially those said MTA promo arts that I and others are still waiting on. Also, regarding what you got from said area regarding Super Mario Party, any luck on others related to that main visual? I see we got Toadette; just patiently waiting in regards to the ones involving Peach, Rosalina, and Daisy there. --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 21:26, March 17, 2019 (EDT)
 * By the way, do you have an actual account on this wiki's related forums or even an account on the Discord itself? There are still some things that are still on topic, but can't be discussed on the "public side" like our talkpages. Other than that, we still can't give up hope - still hoping for the rest of the Mario Tennis Aces and Super Mario Party promo arts to actually surface; I know that along with what I'm still looking for, I'm hoping we'll be able to finally get our hands on a logo-less version of the Mario Tennis Aces main visual picture. I'm wondering what's taking all of the Nintendo branches so long to let us have it from the press media end...? --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 22:17, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
 * Don't you mean 1-Up World (the Discord server there)...? I'll have to check into it further when I'm done here (if not tonight, then possibly during the course of tomorrow). --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 23:40, April 6, 2019 (EDT)

Blue Pixels on MvsDK sprites
No, those aren't part of the sprites. According to the notice on the sheet, that is actually transparency on the outline that they couldn't capture properly with what they were using to rip. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:54, March 19, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah I thought so Results May Vary (talk) 11:14, March 19, 2019 (EDT)

Dk wiki
So your that atari jaguar. Ok see I am HERODK!!! :) &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 19:24, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yup, I am. Howdy, HEROMARIO. Results May Vary (talk) 19:28, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
 * Question: Do you know how I can like get more privileges on DK wiki so I can help more. It’s fine if no.&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 20:18, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * That’s ok. I can still do my best! &#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0 (talk) 20:24, April 9, 2019 (EDT)

Re: Here's something to lighten up your day
What XD

Love how they shift the burden of proof there, too. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:51, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Pretty good so far! :D
 * One thing I actually do like how NIWA Zeldawiki handles things are how they do enemy galleries. At the same time, I despise how they handle main image galleries for games, so I suppose that's a bit of a trade-off. Probably should do that more like what's done here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:16, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
 * Probably because for some games they get to be in ludicrously large amounts of variety, so probably to help with slowdown because they can't lessen the amount of ads to something more reasonable it seems (which is probably what ended up constantly BSoDing the Windows Vista I used in the last years I used it whenever I went to the site). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:40, May 1, 2019 (EDT)

True Native GameCube/Wii Screenshots
624x480 isn't the true resolution of games, based on your recent screenshot uploads. I found out that it varies by game, and here are my results. -- 23:50, May 9, 2019 (EDT)
 * Thats what i said in an edit summary -- i couldnt tweak my Dolphin settings to capture with perfect results Results May Vary (talk) 00:43, May 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * Reset every graphical setting to their defaults first before deviating to my recommended settings. I hope they give you the best results. -- 00:49, May 10, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Crash Wiki
You didn't even wait for my reply before you made the page yourself nor did you credit us in any way upon creating it. I'm fine with using the page for reference but I would appreciate it if you did some research yourself and rewrite the content in your own words, because I don't even think everything there is completely accurate. 21:28, May 25, 2019 (EDT)


 * Since you asked the question, yes, you should have waited for permission first. I was offline most of yesterday. And I did say you didn't credit us but it seems you did in your summaries, so my mistake there. 02:45, May 26, 2019 (EDT)

Jungle Hijinxs
First of all, I know I've told you before that these types of remarks are unacceptable.

Second, what was wrong with the Jungle Hijinxs (Donkey Kong Country) page? My thought process was showing where the K-O-N-G Letters are in the chart, rather than the unhelpful letter sprites alone. It doesn't matter if they're insignificant, as they are completely optional anyway, but the images would be more helpful in the chart than the image gallery. Also said before the "Secrets" header isn't really that necessary, but I guess it doesn't really matter if it's there or not, either. 14:54, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * The thing is: I'm fed up with my DK Wiki merging attempts being tampered with. I have been having to clean up after improper merges for months and months without end. Hours of my effort would go into cleaning up some improper merges. This is why I'm seriously considering a personal read-only DK Wiki in the future. Results May Vary (talk) 14:59, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * What do you mean "tampered with"? In what way was my change "messing up the whole article", when I was just trying to figure out a format idea? If you didn't like it, that's fine. But these charts are being used in various ways across the level articles and I'm trying to find a good solid format for them. Do you have a different idea for fixing this? 15:02, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * No, just go ahead and change the article how you see fit. I'm just a user who loves his DK so much, so I get protective over my childhood hero. Results May Vary (talk) 15:06, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * ...This is supposed to be a community effort. Alongside making sure information isn't missed, it also needs to be formatted correctly. We were originally going with the standard lists, like DKWiki uses. But then you and I think Retro Gamer brought up the DK table chart and I really like how those look. The Bonus Area uses images, why not the K-O-N-G Letters? The way you formatted the page afterward looks good to me otherwise.
 * I get being protective over your favorite franchise, but this is a wiki. We're supposed to work together. 15:12, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

How does this look to you? 20:56, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * I suppose it looks fine. personally i'd prefer if there were consistent screenshots between the versions, as the only non-snes screenshot is of the letter N. It would be best if it were GBA images really, as those are what's required. i guess for dkc2/dkc3, either/or can go, as they're not required in either title. Also, the letter G was collected in that letter G screenshot. Long story short, this is just what i had in mind mostly, thank you! :) Results May Vary (talk) 21:50, June 13, 2019 (EDT)
 * Yeah, there wasn't a better image of the N or G Letters. I would like consistent screenshots as well, but sometimes that doesn't happen ^^; (and I don't have a way to make it happen.) They can always be updated later if need be. For DKC2/3, I think screenshots can still be used, as they are still collectables to show the locations of. But we'll cross that bridge later. If you're fine with this, I'll make the adjustments tomorrow :) 00:07, June 14, 2019 (EDT)
 * Right, later on. I'm busy working on some other pages in meantime Results May Vary (talk) 00:13, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

RE:Thank you
You are welcome, I understand. 18:48, June 14, 2019 (EDT)

Lil problem
My browser is suddenly prohibiting me from going to Triforce Wiki under the grounds that it's "not secure." Know how to fix this? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:43, July 22, 2019 (EDT)
 * Hi there, it's a tech issue. I'm trying really hard to get it resolved with support, as i recently got a dedicated IP Address for the site & the other wikis i host Results May Vary (talk) 01:48, July 22, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Release dates
It might not be necessary right now unless someone starts changing the dates to match Wikipedia again, at which point I think it would be safe to more visibly upload it for the record. With the exception of those unreleased Virtual Boy games, the sheet's other dates do seem to line up pretty accurately. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:50, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
 * Out of curiosity, are there any other things of note in the E3 press binder (not necessarily Mario-related)? LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:59, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
 * Neat! Most documents seem to be prepared press release statements, but I noticed two things which happen to be potentially wiki-related: this refers to Virtual Boy Wario Land as Wario Land, and that refers to the Nintendo 64DD as the "Nintendo 64 64DD" which, while repetitive and may be early info, is seen right on the logo. LinkTheLefty (talk) 06:59, July 27, 2019 (EDT)

Greetings
Hi. I see there's a new page dedicated to McDonald's toys. That's cool. I hope we get pages for everything soon. Once I get a computer, I might make pages and upload images and links Lord Falafel (talk) 18:43, July 31, 2019 (EDT)
 * I'm very glad that you are interested in helping out, thanks so much! I'm very pleased that the wiki will be getting better coverage on merchandise, rather than it all being clumped into one gallery page. Results May Vary (talk) 18:45, July 31, 2019 (EDT)

RE: Creating new categories
That's fine. 21:17, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

Merchandise
Hi, I was wondering if it would be okay for me to start a new page on the Mario Kart Hot Wheels toys. I'm not really sure if I need to ask, but I figured since you were the proposer it would be courteous. -- 10:54, August 6, 2019 (EDT)
 * Oh please do. I've said a couple of times I need others' help in creating/shifting/organizing merchandise pages, since this is such a big project. :) Results May Vary (talk) 11:50, August 6, 2019 (EDT)

PNG
Hi, would you mind applying PNG Monstrous to File:HM Flying Goomba.png? Thanks! 18:39, August 18, 2019 (EDT)
 * Done, thank you :) Results May Vary (talk) 20:52, August 18, 2019 (EDT)

DKL2
I looked it up. Bosses in DKL2 drop Banana Bunch Coins, not Kremkoins like they do in DKC2. 00:57, September 10, 2019 (EDT)
 * Huh, that's pretty weird. Thank you for explaining to me Results May Vary (talk) 06:56, September 10, 2019 (EDT)

Not sure I agree
...with the movement of the recent Luigi file. Luigi Stationary Artwork indicates in the Luigi artwork, he is not moving. In Luigi Driving Artwork, it does the opposite. Luigi in Standard LG MKDS artwork.png, (aside from not being in Game-Obj-Type) re-adds the guesswork as to which image it is because both Luigi Driving and Luigi Stationary take place IN the Standard LG. To me, it made the name less specifc. Trig - 22:38, October 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * Well all artworks are "stationary", and the word is kind of ambiguous. In case you're worried that i'm going to rename every one of your files, it won't happen -- just if there needs to be clarification. In any case, it's just file names really. I'm sure a lot of users are already pretty annoyed at us for constantly shifting files around. Results May Vary (talk) 22:44, October 24, 2019 (EDT)
 * no worries, just throwing my opinion out there for a next time if it happens. Trig - 22:47, October 24, 2019 (EDT)

DKC3
Just last week, I played through half of DKC3 in a single day XD. Sure is an interesting one. I never finished DKC2, actually.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:29, October 27, 2019 (EDT)
 * Ah awesome, it is a great game. I have just under 125 pages left to merge from DK Wiki. The DKC3 level layout updates help make it easier for me. Results May Vary (talk) 00:31, October 27, 2019 (EDT)
 * Cool! Wish I had the GBA one available so I could rip the sprites from it...I've gotten good at ripping GBA sprites, as seen here. I really ought to go back and rip some of the Grunty's Revenge ones.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:36, October 27, 2019 (EDT)

Re:Link's Awakening Names
Nice find! Though it should be noted that the website refers to her as "the Mini Bow-Wow" and then "the fashion-conscious Mini Bow-Wow," so it could be that the writer considers both smaller BowWows to be Mini Bow-Wows in a general sense rather than it being her name specifically. Could ask Doc for a second opinion if it should be considered CiaoCiao's name or her species. By the way, I'm a little confused about the situation myself, but I'll probably ask at the wiki later. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:21, November 8, 2019 (EST)
 * I see. What I really don't understand is why Porplemontage closed Zeldapedia so suddenly without any announcement whatsoever (that I've seen), but like I said, I'll ask more at Triforce Wiki - I prefer to keep Zelda wiki discussion to a minimum here. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:30, November 8, 2019 (EST)
 * I mainly...thought the merge was still going to happen, but I guess it's been abruptly canceled. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:34, November 8, 2019 (EST)

Galleries
From my general understanding, the format of a gallery should be sequential in the following order: Logos-Artwork (Protagonist-Bosses-Supporting-Enemy)-Game Sprites-Data Sprites-Screenshots-Box Art-Miscellaneous. I have seen multiple examples that I cannot think of immediately where this is not the case, but I do not think there is a hard rule in place about it. Probably worth discussing somewhere. Trig - 12:19, November 19, 2019 (EST)

Super Circuit items
Noticed you working on those old uploads. From what I can tell, just like with SMK and MK64, the black box is actually part of the same graphic as the icon, as seen here. Making removing that by definition fan transparency. I'd change them myself right now, but I'm about to fall asleep in any minute. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:27, December 15, 2019 (EST)
 * Ah sorry, I just noticed the others didnt have the black box, so I decided to be consistent Results May Vary (talk) 11:21, December 15, 2019 (EST)
 * They should all have one. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:17, December 15, 2019 (EST)

RE:Response to Results May Vary
(Continued from Trig Jegman's talk page)

Alright, enough of that. First of all, to RMV, you can't claim ownership over a file name (unless it's a personal image or a 'Shroom image). Once it's on the wiki, it's on the wiki for anyone to edit. It's a key point in the editing window disclaimer: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." The only real exception to this is during an ongoing project and you don't want others to get involved, but even then, once the project is done, it's free game. Furthermore, while this doesn't apply to all of the recently moved file names, there is nothing wrong with clarity. If the new file name describes the image better, then there's nothing wrong with file name and moving it back to the original name just because you're the original uploader is just petty. To Trig, yes, the file renames do tend to pile up and cause more work than is necessary, but I honestly have no problem with that. You can't delete anything yourself, so it's up to the admin to take care of it. We wouldn't have accepted this role if it didn't mean we were up for the maintenance. We just get around to it when we have the time to do so, or take care of it little by little. That said, I have noticed a few points of inaccuracy in the file names, and sometimes you move a file when the naming is already clear, consistency notwithstanding. We aren't strict with our file names; as long as the name is accurate and can distinguish it between another file, it is perfectly fine, even if the name is all lowercase after an uppercase abbreviation. It doesn't matter if it's Game-Object-Type, or Type-Game-Object, or Object-Type-Game. As long as the file is accurate, it does not matter. Removing unnecessary punctuation, such as dashes that are used in place of spaces (that never made sense to me) or interfile periods, are perfectly fine. Debating some kind of warning here, but for now, I don't want to see this problem again, but if there is something you feel is wrong, you talk it out before moving the file back, alright? 00:28, December 22, 2019 (EST)
 * "It doesn't matter if it's Game-Object-Type, or Type-Game-Object, or Object-Type-Game. As long as the file is accurate, it does not matter" - exactly, this is what i was trying to say, and I know this might have been lost in the midst of my arguing. He was trampling over my own file uploads for small reasons, and it felt personal. I understand his intent with clarity but there are concrete examples of him trying to quietly enforce his file naming preference over others. I linked two blatant examples of this on the talk page. This is why I don't like seeing excuses of filenames, such as my own uploads, being renamed for slight reasons, just so that it matches his own preferred format. Results May Vary (talk) 00:33, December 22, 2019 (EST)
 * I see your problem with the NSMBW file, all it did was remove the "ii" part of "Wii" and move the abbreviation to the start. It didn't effect anything. For the City Tripper file, as I said, the hyphens in place of spaces never made sense to me, so I have no problem with them getting removed; them getting removed also coordinates with our image use policy. This is something the message above clarifies.
 * "Don't be a hypocrite and blame me for your own actions." "Oh, so why are you calling me childish?" You've been told off for these remarks before. Both of you are having issues, you don't need to add fuel to the fire, even if you feel the need to retaliate. I don't mean never stand up for yourself, but being rude about it is not the way to go handle it. 00:45, December 22, 2019 (EST)
 * It's ok if the hyphens were removed, I just feel alarmed that he switched the order of images, e.g. City Tripper example i posted. Maybe part of it is because i prefer a certain naming format, but the other part is, like you said, it doesnt matter which order it's in, as long as the subject is described clearly. I dont want all the filenames on the wiki to follow the same format, so switching the filename order like with City Tripper is unfair.


 * As for the remarks, yeah they were rude. What would you have done in this situation? because i just wanted to be direct about it Results May Vary (talk) 00:51, December 22, 2019 (EST)
 * The file rename doesn't need to be focused on just one fix, he can change the order as long as that's not the only thing he's doing. Completely up to him, the file's getting moved and links are getting fixed, anyway.
 * I would've ignored them, or rebutted them in a professional manner, like "Maybe you think that about me, but this is my reasoning as to why I did this." Work more on finding a compromise or explaining why you did/think something than proving your point, but if you're ultimately shown to be in the wrong, you're in the wrong; that goes for both parties. 01:01, December 22, 2019 (EST)

Re:Trifroce Wiki profiles
Thanks! I've neglected adding those for a while. If anything that has a manual bio doesn't have a page yet, I'll just put it on my user page. 10:09, January 11, 2020 (EST)

Quality (DK)
Could you please explain why 'DK Vine' is cited as an image quality error as seen here? Is like a jpg/png conversion type deal, or... Trig - 22:08, January 20, 2020 (EST)
 * They use photoshop to edit their images. Results May Vary (talk) 22:09, January 20, 2020 (EST)
 * Well that's always fun. Thanks for clarifying. Trig - 22:11, January 20, 2020 (EST)

Re:Balloons
It's still a red link after all this time, so I took making a new article over it as very low priority - though I was also thinking of just expanding the existing Red Balloon and Blue Balloon articles to cover the Barrel Blast information, since it seems likely that a spinoff based heavily on the Donkey Kong Country series would intentionally repurpose the same object. What do you suppose? LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:26, January 23, 2020 (EST)
 * There is that unused green balloon that at least indicates to me that the developers were conscious of the original three colors, and only the red version kept its original purpose in games afterwards. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:44, January 23, 2020 (EST)
 * I guess. I don't really feel too strongly about it, so if you think that'd be the best way to present the information, that's fine. Maybe just add a note mentioning that they're colored similarly to main series balloons for now. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:15, January 23, 2020 (EST)

Something interesting
Could you please happen to mesage me on Discord? I want to discuss something with you, if possible. Trig - 20:08, January 23, 2020 (EST)
 * I'm on the Wikirby discord server, so you can probably get ahold of me from there (or by allowing friend requests) Results May Vary (talk) 20:10, January 23, 2020 (EST)
 * I attempted to send a friend request but it did not go through. I will try again by joining the Kirby server but you may have disabled non-server member messages. Trig - 20:15, January 23, 2020 (EST) please don't assassinate me for fixing the section header
 * It's fine i was tempted to fix the section header haha Results May Vary (talk) 20:15, January 23, 2020 (EST)

amiibo Renders
Hello, I saw that you had posted this Donkey Kong artwork here, however you had to downscale it by 10% in order meet the 10MB limit imposed by MarioWiki. I was curious to know if you still have the original and if so, is there any way to share it? Maybe by using a better compression or something? Or if you could contact me, we could work something out.

I have been looking for highest resolution versions of the renders used on the Super Mario Series amiibo. The amiibo launched alongside Mario Party 10 and it appears a few of the renders were done previously, then used for that game. If you have time, could you maybe take a look around to see if you can find a hi-res versions of the following character art? (If it's a hassle, don't worry, it's no big deal.)

Wario: His Mario Party 10 is here, although it's lo-res. It was used in Mario Tennis Open too, so it might have originated from that game or even before that. It might've been reused in Mario Party: Star Rush or Mario Party: The Top 100. They originally did this pose for Mario Party 6, then re-did it...then re-did it again for Super Mario Party, but I'm looking for a hi-res version of the one in the middle - the one used for Mario Party 10 & Mario Tennis Open.

Toad: His amiibo art comes from this render used on Mario Kart Wii and probably re-used elsewhere aftwerwards. Originally, the render was done for Mario Party 6, but sometime around Mario Kart Wii, they re-did it with brighter lighting.

Koopa Troopa: It's amiibo art comes from this render, originally from Super Mario 3D Land. The only image I've found for it is that one linked there which is pretty lo-res.

Mario: His amiibo art is taken from this render, originally from Fortune Street. Unfortunately, that linked image doesn't have official transparency. Could you please check to see if it's available with official transparency, maybe along the Mario Party 10, Star Rush, or The Top 100 files?

Diddy Kong: I don't know where this render comes from. Possibly specifically done for his amiibo?

Thanks for your time and all you've contributed to Mario Wiki, I see you've done a lot. Again, if it's a hassle looking for all that stuff, don't worry, I know you're more of a Donkey Kong fan, it's all good. Thanks! MarioLandCitizen (talk)

Reply to 17:03, February 7, 2020 (EST) on my talk page

I have Discord, (username: MarioLandCitizen) but honestly, I am new to it and don't know how to find you or how to do invites or anything like that, still learning the ropes... In General Chat, I see that I'm in #social, #fan-stuff, and #mindless-junk. In Video Games, I see that I'm in #gaming and #marioverse and in Wiki Community, I see that I'm in #mariowiki and #the-shroom. I don't know if that helps. If I can figure out how to work that thing, lol, I'll look for you. Thanks for the response. (I'm also new to wiki communicating so I hope you're notified that I edited this section) MarioLandCitizen (talk) 17:51, February 7, 2020 (EST)

Thank you
Thanks for fixing all the broken image links meant for the MLSS battle formations; I was too lazy to do it myself... :P

9:10, February 7, 2020 (EDT)
 * No problem, glad i could help Results May Vary (talk) 17:02, February 7, 2020 (EST)

RE: Lowercase categories
There isn't but I do think categories with non-proper-noun words like that should be lowercase. The only problem is it would take a really long time going through them since it's a lot. 22:17, February 23, 2020 (EST)

Help
I left some comments on trig's page regarding new images we need. He said you'd be of help. I don't want to sound bossy. The latest discussion in his talk page is the place I left those comments. You will also find out why I need someone to help me upload the images. Lord Falafel (talk) 00:35, March 5, 2020 (EST)
 * Category:Quality requested - do you mean this stuff? Results May Vary (talk) 00:40, March 5, 2020 (EST)

Re:Update
Hey RMV. Hope you're holding up well. I was thinking of making the Marin page for the anniversary of Link's Awakening instead, but looks like I was holding it off too long. That's fine, looks good! I also see the 300th article is approaching and I have just the idea for it: the Essence of the Triforce from A Link to the Past. What do you think? In other news, I've went ahead and ordered the Japanese versions of Art & Artifacts (Hyrule Graphics) and Zelda Encyclopedia (Hyrule Encyclopedia), so when I get my hands on them I expect to have some pretty big things to set some records straight at Triforce Wiki. Anyway, regarding Kirby and Star Fox - sure, go ahead. It'd be a shame if that information remained exclusive to Wikia. I should note that, while I don't have too much of a problem with Arwingpedia (at least last I checked), I'm not really a fan of how Kirby Wiki has been presenting their information as of late (for example, they somehow twisted my old observation that Kirby's gender was written ambiguously in Japanese into flat-out "Kirby is gender neutral" - which, long story short, doesn't mean the same thing since that just isn't how Japanese language works, so I'd almost advise not to mention it at all for the sake of future-proofing). I did make an attempt a short while back to correct some of the issues with the wiki, but I get the impression they may be too far-gone in their fancruft, so be careful of what you borrow. That said, I am semi-active on WiKirby as AdieuLain (a pun of Adeleine and  because why not)  so if you have any Kirby-related questions you can feel free to ask me there. As for Final Fantasy, the games I'm most intimately familiar with are the first one, IV, and VI - the series has had so many name changes over the years, some even with concurrent rerelease translations (e.g. IV on DS, then PSP reverting to the GBA script with edits, which itself was the PS script with edits) that it's hard to keep track of it all. I did know a few people who wanted a more "purist" take on a Final Fantasy Wiki, so that might be something to consider. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:30, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * Funny enough, I asked the same question one time. I'm paraphrasing as this was years ago but it went something like this: one person rationalized that a "purist" wiki would favor Square's original releases over Square Enix's rereleases since they said that most gamers likely grew up with the classic versions that made the franchise famous, to which the majority seemed to agree, but then another person chimed in that a "purist" wiki would pick and choose the translations most accurate to the Japanese text, and then yet another wanted the common fan-translations to count, and afterwards the conversation kind of devolved into an argument so I sort of checked out. I've seen the sentiment come up a few times since, but I noticed that everyone who wanted an alternative wiki had one thing in common: no one liked how the Wikia apparently straight-up replaced perfectly fine older images with equivalents from later versions (logos, screenshots, sprites, etc.). I see where they're coming from since I've seen Clyde Mandelin analyze a screenshot from a PSP release once to explain why it's visually unappealing. I know this is subjective and anecdotal, but there does seem to be a somewhat substantial demand for it, so maybe that would be a good place to start? I remember it was pointed out odd that, in contrast to the Wikia's belief that the newer aesthetics are Square Enix's "current vision", spinoffs like Dissidia and mobile games more often than not refer to the   title designs, and the characters in several mobile games use a distinct graphical style that can only be called "original Final Fantasy VI" as opposed to the version actually on the platform. If nothing else, I think it'd help give it a unique identity and attract fans put off by Wikia, so it might be worth considering. By the way, about the Elfheim article: the PAL version of Final Fantasy Origins has the Erdrick reference, but in the NTSC version (or at least, the copy I had), it mentions Link instead. Also, I greatly appreciate it, but there's no need to thank me...if there's anyone to thank, thank the architects of this wiki's naming policy! LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:25, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * I hadn't noticed the Mario Kart 8 replacements, though if I'm not mistaken, the Switch version is visually the same except displayed at a higher resolution, which is a different situation. I'll be sure to get in touch with some of those online acquaintances and see if they're interested now that there's a new wiki. I recall they shared some other similar grievances about Wikia's approach. I must warn you, however: Final Fantasy is practically a Behemoth and my own knowledge of the series is mostly limited to the Sakaguchi era. =p LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:31, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * Something I'd add is that the Chancellor only existed as of the WonderSwan remake (and was unnamed until Game Boy Advance), and the NPC was fixed by either making her visible in the MSX version or removing her entirely in the WonderSwan version. Other than that, seems fine! LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:41, April 26, 2020 (EDT)
 * Happy Anniversary! By the way, I'm still waiting for Hyrule Graphics and Hyrule Encyclopedia - I hope they didn't get lost in the mail, or intercepted by Wikia Yigas, or something. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:35, April 30, 2020 (EDT)
 * Interesting developments! I have considered joining Final Fantasy Wiki, but the simple truth of the matter is that I'm frankly a bad multitasker when it comes to editing multiple wikis. That's why you'll notice I tend to edit Triforce Wiki in spurts. The Mario franchise seems to have the most activity, so I guess this wiki naturally ended up getting most of my attention. That's just me, though; I probably will join Final Fantasy Wiki at some point since I do have a few ideas of my own that I'd like to contribute. For instance, I think it would be really cool presentation-wise if the reader can choose their preferred game logo (e.g. the 1987, 1990, 2000, and 2007 logos having their own tabs in the original Final Fantasy game infobox). The Japanese name for Black Mage should be くろまじゅつし and Thief should be シーフ by the way. Anyway, I'm a little amazed how the Mario Wiki structure is just starting to be applied elsewhere since it seemed so universal to me. I'm glad those are taking off! I am intrigued what you meant by that last paragraph, about possibly starting a non-NIWA alliance from scratch. As far as I've known, Zelda Wiki was the only loose cannon, but I haven't been paying close attention. I admit I don't know too much about StrategyWiki, but I do use it from time to time when GameFAQs fails me. Feel free to tell me more of your thoughts at Triforce Wiki - I should be finished with my analysis of Hyrule Encyclopedia this weekend so I'll have a lot to say too. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:45, July 23, 2020 (EDT)

Hey...
Thanks for updating my page! I really appreciate that. :) Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 16:03, April 26, 2020 (EDT)

Userspace
Userspace Please keep non-wiki-related user-subpage content to your userpage. 01:16, May 21, 2020 (EDT)