MarioWiki:Proposals

List of talk page proposals

 * Split Densetsu no Stafy 3 from Video game references (Discuss) Passed
 * Split ghosts from game page (Discuss) Deadline: June 17, 2013, 23:59 GMT
 * Make a separate subpage for places (Discuss) Deadline: June 18, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Writing guidelines
None at the moment.

Template:Clear
I think there should be a clear template just like on other wikis. I know its been deleted three times already, but we need it. And can't do anything to the images.

Proposer: Deadline: June 13, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per Proposal.

Oppose

 * 1) If the template has been deleted three times already, the third of which was a few hours ago, then it seems clear to me that we don't need it - especially considering the template was deleted due to being redundant. Also, just because other wikis use it doesn't mean we automatically should.
 * 2) – Per Superchao.
 * 3) Per Superchao.
 * 4) - Per Superchao.
 * 5) - serves the exact same purpose. Per Superchao.
 * 6) Per Superchao and Gamefreak75. And If I'm correct, The Template  does the same thing as the
 * 7) Per Megadardery.
 * 8) Per all, especially GameFreak75.
 * 9) Per all.
 * 10) No purpose, like Gamefreak said, <br clear=all and  already do the same thing. Per all.

Organize Help pages with a Navigation template
Basically what the title says: It's hard to locate all the help pages and if a user who is figuring out the wiki is reading them, they should have a quick and easy reference to get to all (or most) of them.

Proposer: Deadline: June 13, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) Per proposal.
 * 2) Per Mariotime11.
 * 3) It's a good idea to include navigation templates dealing with all help pages and put it in each help page. Sure, we have a category dealing with all help pages, but the main help page should include all links to every help page in the first place, not just the ones in Category:Help. and the rest are in another category. The names "MarioWiki Policy", "MarioWiki Writing Guidelines" and "Manual of Style" sound similar, and I shouldn't have to guess which category the link falls in. Overall, it's not difficult in the first place for users to find these help pages, but inserting a navigation template in the main help page makes things a lot easier if you're trying to search for a "how-to", but can't find it on the main help page (like Categories). Bottom line: it's easier to see everything in one template than trying to find things in three different pages.
 * 4) Per proposal and LeftyGreenMario.
 * 5) When I was new, I was having a hard time navigating help pages and templates would help out a lot with that. This method would make it easier for everybody to navigate them. Per all.

Oppose

 * No, this just does not make sense. It's just another thing to keep up with. Also per Turboo's comments below.

Comments
Help:Contents is on the sidebar with a list of help pages and a link to the categories they're in, though. I doubt making a nav template would be detrimental, but I don't see how it's too difficult for users to find them. -
 * I think it would ease navigating the help pages if a navigation template is found at the bottom or side of a help page, as in WiKirby. It would be better than reading through the page, going back to Help:Contents, then clicking on the next page, and so on. The categories are easily overlooked, and it would be much easier if we can see everything in one page instead of having to click on these categories and guess where the page you're looking for is.
 * Gonzales Kart Inc.: What do you mean by "it's another thing to keep up with"? It's an annoying template? I don't see how navigation templates at the bottom of a page "need to be kept up with", and they are easily added to pages.

Removals
None at the moment.

Intro standards for subpages
This has been discussed here and here.

First of all, when I say "subpages", I mean pages that were previously subpages, and current subpages. This includes the glitches, media, quotes, staff, beta elements pages, as well as galleries.

So basically this proposal is "let's have a standard for subpages intros!". Why?

There are so many variations in how the intro is worded: a standard write-up would be great. — YoshiKong

I would also like to add a clarification:

''It's still a good idea to have a slug line up there, rather than leaving the top of the page blank.

''Consistency is good, but the intro could be changed up a little for different types of galleries - to provide a little variety.

''Like "This is a gallery of images pertaining to the game ." (which could, when applicable, be followed by "For a gallery of images pertaining to the remake,, see .") for games, and then substitude "show"/"movie"/whatever if it's part of another media. Then "This is a gallery of images featuring (the) X(s)." for specific subjects (characters/species/items/forms/gaming systems). Specialized subjects may also need specialized intros to work (i.e. "This is a gallery of the images from Rosalina's Storybook, featured in Super Mario Galaxy.").'' — Walkazo

Proposer: Deadline: June 8, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

 * 1) This is my proposal.
 * 2) – Per Banon.
 * 3) &mdash; Per proposal.
 * 4) Per Banon.
 * 5) Per proposal
 * 6) Per Banon.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) Per all.
 * 9) Per all.
 * 10) Per all.
 * 11) Per all.
 * 12) - Per me, per proposal.
 * 13) I would like it if all we had was a simple link like this in the top of the gallery, much as in Featured Articles: <(name of the article). It would avoid redundancy and pointing out the obvious in the gallery descriptions. Of course, exceptions apply, including Rosalina's Storybook. If we can't do this, then the standard gallery descriptions will suffice.

Comments
Just to be clear, are you proposing we have something along the lines of Walkazo's example or something else entirely?
 * I think the Walkazo's example is great. —

So are we going to create templates for intros of each type of page, or do users have to write it themselves?
 * Unless we can get the templates to cover every potential difference in wording for a type of page, manual write-ups would probably be easier. -
 * We could have a template working like this: if we write it would display: This is a gallery of images pertaining to the game Super Mario 64. For a gallery of images pertaining to the remake, Super Mario 64 DS, see here. Is that possible? Also, I'd like to change one thing about Walkazo's examples: "remake" → "reissue" (wider meaning including remake, ports, re-releases...)


 * No, don't muddle things up with gratuitous templates. Just write it out. As for what term to use, rather than using a catch-all, just use whichever term is appropriate; usually, that'll be "remake", but if the other gallery is for a port, say "port", etc. Just like how you'd say "show" or "movie" or whatever instead of "game" when the situation calls for it for the appearance-based galleries. -


 * You're right, that would cause too much trouble. I thought that if we write it ourselves people wouldn't know about the standard but, nah.

Miscellaneous
None at the moment.