MarioWiki:Proposals

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How To
 * 1) Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
 * 2) Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
 * 3) *Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
 * 4) *Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
 * 5) *Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
 * 6) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
 * 7) At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
 * 8) " # " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
 * 9) All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
 * 10) If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
 * 11) Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
 * 12) No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
 * 13) Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
 * 14) All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
 * 15) There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
 * 16) Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
 * 17) If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
 * 18) No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: , 27 2024 (EDT)

Link to Userpedia in "community"
In the community section of the sidebar on the left side of the screen, there are links to the Chat and Forum. However, there is no link to Userpedia. Although it is on a separate site (Adriels), it is an integral part of the Wiki community. Adding it to the sidebar would attract lots of visitors to Userpedia.

Proposer: Deadline: 12 November 2009, 17:00

Link to Userpedia in "Community"

 * 1) - Per above.
 * 2) - I totally agree. Userpedia is an integral part of the Wiki, amd despite 2 moves and 1 server failure, it's still going strong.
 * 3) Saying Userpedia is not affiliated with the Mariowiki is one of the most profoundly ignorant statements I have ever heard. I don't see how you can say that with a straight face.
 * 4) Almost all users here are on Userpedia also, so why not have a link.
 * 5) Userpedia is definaterly affiliated with the wiki so I think a link would be very useful
 * 6) Per NG below.

Don't Link to Userpedia in "Community"

 * 1) - Userpedia is not and should not be officially affiliated with the MarioWiki.
 * 2) Although I would love to see more active UP contributors, I have to concur with Uniju. It is not an official affiliate of the MarioWiki, but the IRC and Forums are. Unless Porplemontage officially affiliates with Userpedia, my vote will stay the same.
 * 3) I don't think Userpedia should be affiliated with MarioWiki unless it's approved or something like that. (P.S. Keep titles non-biased)
 * 4) As much I like this proposal, I have to say no. This site isn't and wouldn't be officially affiliated with Userpedia any time soon.
 * 5) - Make UP work for it like all the other affiliates did! No special treatment just because they mention us.
 * 6) userpedia is seperate to us! Lu-igi board 13:13, 6 November 2009 (EST)
 * 7) – Per Uni.
 * 8) – They are not and should not be affiliated.
 * Per all.
 * 1) PEOPLE! Don't you understand, that it has no affiliation with Mariowiki at all. It's like saying: "How about we link KirbyWiki and the GunsWiki. They're both wikis so why not." Unfortunatey, it would be more convenient to link Userpedia to MarioWiki, but per all.
 * 2) Panchito: Per all.
 * 3) FD09: Per everyone.
 * 4) - This is definitely not a very good idea. Userpedia is not an official MarioWiki affiliate; it is closely related to it, but unless Steve says it can be an official affiliate, no. And even then, Userpedia would just need a button in the affiliates template on the Main Page.
 * 5) Userpedia wasn't and isn't a Mario Wiki affiliate and Steve didn't say anything about affiliating with Userpedia,so to summarize it all up, per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) - Hey! A user told me that we are a Mario-Based wiki, and that all non-mario wikia places should not be on Super Mario Wiki. Userpedia, even if many users here are a part of it, should not be linked with Mario Wiki. Also, many problems would probably corrupt, so I rather not be there to see that...

Comments
Before opposing voting, I would like to state that when we had all the Userspace thing we were taking them to UP, we even announced it in the Main Page and we have a link to it in.

I know I'm supposed to be retired and relaxing in the forums right now, but I'm a little annoyed by some of the oppose votes. Now I'm not on any side for this proposals, but I want to point out that most of these votes sound like they don't even know what Userpedia is. I just wanted to "bring this to light" so to speak:

Userpedia is a sub-wiki of ours. It was created by one of our users and though Steve didn't make it, it serves as the one of the 3 major Mario Wiki user "community areas" (the two others being chat and the forums). It's basicly a big TV station as it is a place where users show thier sprite comics and fanfic. It also hosts all the sprites users make along with pages on the users themselves. It is basicly the wiki with out the Mario articles and has a bunch of stuff made by users. It's the exact "line-up" of users we have here as everyone on UP was at one time an active Mario Wiki user (save for one or two UP-only users).

That's why I'm little peeved at the fact some people are saying things along the lines of "OMG! UP has nothing to do with us, why is this dumb proposal on here?!". I don't really care how this proposal turns out, I just wanted to try to clear up what Userpedia really is. (any argueing with me should be done on the forums since I mostly don't go on the wiki anymore)

Removals
''None at the moment.

Split Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games DS and Wii version.
This is my first proposal so I hope I did this right...

OK so I think that the Wii and DS versions for the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games and Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games should be separated into two different articles. It seems cluttered with both versions put together and it would be easier to find the correct information if they were split. The articles can be named something like "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (DS)" or "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii)" and the same for the winter olympics M&S. Proposer: Deadline: 16 November 2009, 17:00

Separate the DS and Wii versions

 * 1) Per above.
 * 2) - Your all looking at it wrong. They are techincally two different games, and they have many differences. Events, character stats, stoy modes, etc., I could go on for a while. I would be a lot simpler just to split them (at least the Winter one, with the greatest differences).
 * 3) Per Bloops.

Don't separate DS and Wii versions

 * 1) I don't think that this is a problem, personally, the cluttering up. They're both the same game, just on different systems, and if we separate these, we'll have to separate the other games like this. Personally, I really don't think this is neccesary. Sorry, FF65.
 * 2) I am Zero! I don't see any promblem with keeping them as one article, just have a section which talks about the Wii version and another which talks about the DS version (I think that already happened). Zero signing out.
 * 3) - Per Funky.
 * 4) - Per all. I see no problem.
 * 5) – Per all.
 * 6) Per all.
 * 7) Per all.
 * 8) – I don't think there are enough differences between the two.
 * 9) - Per FunkyK38.

Comments
Is there any difference to the versions? If so - what?
 * I want to draw some attention to the question that was just asked! -
 * Yes, there both almost different games! DS has a story mode and different events while wii has festival mode. The only thing I believe stayed exactly the same was the character cast. Of course the characters stats differ in both games too.
 * In that case why not a "Story" section?
 * What do you mean?

I think he means make a category in the page for the story mode and/or festival mode.
 * Yes - what Funky said ( ==Story== )

Update Character-infobox Templates
I'm proposing we update the character info boxes a bit; in different areas.

They are currently set up so it has:


 * character's name
 * a current image with a small description
 * their full name
 * their first appearance
 * their species, all media
 * their affiliations, any amount
 * their latest appearance
 * who they are portrayed by, ever

Will be changed to:


 * character's name
 * a current image with a small description
 * their full name
 * their hair color
 * their eye color
 * their first appearance
 * their species, current depiction only unless first appearance is different
 * their affiliations, set amount
 * their latest appearance
 * who they are portrayed by, most recently

I'm proposing we change it so that unless their first appearance was in a media type other than a video game, it not be mentioned what they may have been in that media type. Sure it makes sense to mention what a character's species was in the film, but that's what the film section is for. To mention that difference. On the other hand if for some reason a character has showed up in the film first, it would make sense to mention that in their species category in the template box. Otherwise you're focusing on information that is widely far apart from their actual design. Toad and Daisy are two good examples of characters that should not have this information in their infoboxes. Neither of them are actually reptilian(dinosaur) in any manner of speaking, so why mention it here rather than where it is relevant?

Next, I'm proposing to change it so that affiliations can have no more than three things listed. Some articles seem to mention far too much such as Wario's. Naming one friend, one enemy, and one location is not hard. And it's not like it doesn't explain interactions in the section for this information. That doesn't mean it has to be a friend an enemy then a place, but it means the list can not exceed three things(friend, friend, place/enemy, enemy, friend/etc.)

Change portrayed by section to latest portrayal. There's a reason there are sections explaining who portrayed characters in what game on each page. It's so viewers can read who played who in what. However, stating in the infobox EVERY person that has played the character in EVERYTHING they've ever been in is unnecessary and messy. Stating who their latest voice actor is should be no problem. If somebody wanted to know who played Toad in the film, they could go to either the film or portrayals section and find out. But if somebody just wants to know who most recently voiced Toad, they should be able to look at his infobox, and then know instantly. Oh, that's the actress who currently(most recently) voices Toad. Also, this will go along with their latest appearance because that way they know who voiced them in what game most recently.

Add hair color section. This is a given. What is a character infobox for but their most important, basic info. One of the most basic things about a characters appearance other than their species is the simple color of their hair. The point of this sis so anyone who just wants to know a characters hair color by fact can look right at their infobox and know. Most Mario character's have hair and when it comes to fictional characters, something as easy as hair color is a nice thing to state. The section would be simply called "Hair". If a character does not have hair, it would simply not be include din the infobox. For example Ludwig has a full head of blue hair, but Wendy doesn't have any, therefore Wendy's hair section would not be included.

Add eye color section. This goes along with reasoning behind hair color. A little more iffy however because defining eye color can be much harder than hair color as sometimes eyes are hidden, or have no coloration. If a character has black eyes, it is easy as stating they are Black. For example, Waluigi's would be like: Black Pupils with Blue Liner. Yoshi's would be Dark Blue, Capitan Syrups would be Red with Blue Shadow, Pauline's Gray with Pink Shadow. Same as with hair, if a color can not be identified, it would not be included.

Each section change or addition will be broken up into numerous different proposals below.

Proposer: FD09 Deadline: 20 November 2009, 20:00

Change It
Species section will only give the characters actual species; unless first appearance is media outside of current appearance.


 * 1) FD09 Per above.
 * 2) Great proposal...

No Change
Species section will give list of species from all appearances; even if they are not current.

Change It
Affiliations section will only list three things. (Not so much a change, as it is simply setting order)


 * 1) FD09 Per above.

No Change
Self explanatory.

Change It
Portrayed By section will be change to Latest Portrayal and will list only the most recent portrayal of the character.


 * 1) FD09 Per above.

No Change
Portrayed By section will not change and will list every single actor that has portrayed the character, ever.

Change It
Will add hair section to characters with hair.


 * 1) FD09 Per above.

No Change
Will not add section.
 * 1) This one is not really necessary.
 * 2) Infoboxes ≠ ID cards.
 * 3) You can tell a persons hair color just by looking at them!

Change It
Will add eyes section to characters with defined eye color.


 * 1) FD09 Per above.

No Change
Will not add section.
 * 1) Not necessary too.
 * 2) Per Vini64.
 * 3) Infoboxes ≠ ID cards.

Comments
One vote per user - srry
 * lol I know that, clearly. While I have this set up as One Proposal it is basically divided into different proposals. They just all happen to concern the same thing. Is it really that confusing? FD09
 * I once made the same thing but it got deleted
 * Nah, I don't find it confusing at all. It is actually kind of clever to divide this proposal into more than one, or else people might have conflicting opinions about the different points which would prevent them from voting. Don't know what the other admins will say though. -

Ah, I see, that doesn't sound good. Should I actually make a diff. proposal for each one though?FD09
 * Hm, yeah it makes sense...I'll vote tomorrow though, I'm pretty beat. I PWND my classmates in Brawl today. XD Different proposals won't be good because then this place would be cluttered and it's organized all right already. :/

Add Shortcuts for Mario Kart Wii tracks
My first proposal. Add shortcuts to Mario Kart Wii tracks. This will help struggling racers get the fast staff ghosts, or beat an annoying sibling's best time. Add more spots if necessary.

Proposer: Deadline: 20 November 2009, 20:00

Add Shortcuts

 * 1)   as per above, and for the people who can't find them on their own.
 * 2) If nothing else, it's more encyclopedic.

Comments
What do you mean with shortcuts specificly? Are you talking about shortcuts implemented in the tracks (like secret tunnels) or just driving tricks that help you getting to the finish faster? I'd support the first and oppose the latter one. -
 * Per Edo. Also, your reasoning makes it sound like you're trying to turn those articles into game guides. :/ --
 * Aren't shortcuts already in some of the racecourse articles?

The tone of this proposal makes me to think like a joke (or a walkthrough issue, like explaining bug shortcuts or glitches, eg: the worst shortcut glitch of Grumble Volcano) and that's not a valid question to propose.
 * There's already mentioned shortcuts in articles. I think he's trying to say that he wants EVERY article with a shortcut-explanation guide.