Talk:Berry

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Yoshi Fruit...[edit]

These things are called Yoshi Fruit in the SMG2 guide... PikaSamus (talk)

I think there called berries in every other game there in though Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)
OK. Just sayin' PikaSamus (talk)
It could be used in the Super Mario Galaxy 2 section though or even at the start of the article where it say also called apples after that you could put Yoshi Fruit Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

Should it be noted that berries can be destroyed by ground-pounding, as well as Yoshi's powerups (even though they respawn)?

Other items that ARE called berries, like the berries in Paper Mario 64, are here... I think we should consider that before making a move. ~Camwood777 (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2017 (EST)

Remember, Prima is licensed, but not made by Nintendo. I agree it's a better name, but I think it should stay as Berry until we can find some Nintendo verification for Yoshi Fruit. (Remember: the same guide calls Swoops "Bats" and Scuttlebugs "Spoings" and "Spanglers") DarkBowserBIS.pngDarkBowser777(talk)Dreamy Bowser idle.png 15:44, 24 June 2018 (EDT)

Move to Fruit?[edit]

Currently this article is named Berry, a name that, to my knowledge, hasn't been used since a 1991 game manual. Meanwhile, both NSMBU and Odyssey call it Fruit. That name is far more recent and has been used more than once. So I think it would be a good idea to move this to Fruit. Thoughts? -YFJ (talk · edits) 13:16, 26 February 2019 (EST)

Actually, never mind, just found out that we actually have a Fruit article. So maybe the current name is better. -YFJ (talk · edits) 13:18, 26 February 2019 (EST)
That fruit article doesn't appear to be needed. It appears to be a generic subject. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 14:02, 26 February 2019 (EST)
It as a concept is a very important element of Donkey Kong Jr., Yoshi's Story, and Super Mario Sunshine and is more of a concrete thing than "happiness" was. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:05, 26 February 2019 (EST)
What I meant to say was, there are other articles (Apple, Banana, Melon, etc) that already fulfills what the Fruit page essentially covers. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 16:53, 26 February 2019 (EST)
And like I said, as a concept. It's good to have an inclusive page to run through those appearances rather than having it solely broken up with no unity. Particularly with DKJr, as all but the bananas are pretty ambiguous-looking. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:01, 26 February 2019 (EST)

What to do with this article?[edit]

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Do nothing 0-2-3
See above section. Since this is now known as "Fruit" in more recent sources, and yet a Fruit article already exists, I've narrowed it down to three options as per Porplemontage's suggestions.

  • Option 1: Delete Fruit and rename this article to said title. Basically comprises of relegating the information on the Fruit article to the articles on individual fruits, deleting it, then renaming this article to Fruit.
  • Option 2: Rename this article to Fruit (Yoshi food) or Yoshi Fruit, depending on which title is agreed upon. Literally that, and a compromise for those who want to see the current Fruit article kept.
  • Option 3: Do nothing. Literally that as well.

I'm fine with either of the former two options passing.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: March 30, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Option 1[edit]

Option 2[edit]

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) I'd prefer to keep the general fruit article, as there are instances like the general nonspecific fruit in DKJr that can't be covered in the minor pages, and the ones where fruit as a whole are a primary game mechanic like Yoshi's Story and Super Mario Sunshine.
  2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per Doc von Schmeltwick. It should be Fruit (Yoshi food)

Option 3[edit]

  1. Waluigi Time (talk) The Fruit article should be kept, and I think deleting it for this would be silly. Fruit (Yoshi) is, in my opinion, a terrible name. At first glance, I think of a Yoshi named Fruit, not Fruit that Yoshis eat. We already have a perfectly good name that doesn't cause confusion, we should stick with it. Fruit (Yoshi food) isn't really a descriptive identifier either, as the Fruit page already mentions non-Berry fruit that Yoshis eat in Yoshi's Story and Super Mario Sunshine. Yoshi Fruit is better, but then we're using a name that's still outdated from one Prima guide, and we might as well stick with Berry at that point.
  2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per Waluigi Time.
  3. Alex95 (talk) - Fruit could be better (it's literally asking for it), but there are instances where fruit is not used to feed Yoshis.

Comments[edit]

@Waluigi Time: The "(Yoshi)" part is an identifier, and for a complete lack of a better one, too. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 12:06, March 16, 2019 (EDT)

I know it's an identifier, I just don't think it's a good one. --MK8DX Waluigi Icon.png Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:23, March 16, 2019 (EDT)
I believe Porple recommended the alternative to deletion be to move it to "Yosh Fruit," seems pretty clear-cut to me. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:38, March 16, 2019 (EDT)
Okay, I wasn't sure if that was the exact title he was referring to. Still, it's usually just named "Fruit" in nearly every recent appearance, so I've changed the proposal accordingly to address complaints. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 16:45, March 16, 2019 (EDT)