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#{{User:3dejong/sig|good idee. Those crossover articles are cluttering us up. I'll bet Uniju'll be happy about this.}}
#{{User:3dejong/sig|good idee. Those crossover articles are cluttering us up. I'll bet Uniju'll be happy about this.}}
#{{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|It'll take work, but I think it'll help to get things more organized.}}
#{{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|It'll take work, but I think it'll help to get things more organized.}}
#{{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} It makes sense. No reason to have several pages about things not actually from Mario.
#{{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}}It makes sense. No reason to have several pages about things not actually from Mario.


==== Don't Create a Crossover Species List ====
==== Don't Create a Crossover Species List ====

Revision as of 17:49, March 14, 2008

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~).

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
  8. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 01:46, 24 April 2024 (EDT)


New Features

Crossover Species Page

Er, I think this goes on this section... Whatever. OK, I was discussing this with Stumpers over a certain edit involving a Hedgehog, and we came to an agreement. We believe that perhaps a List of Crossover Species page is needed. I'm feeling lazy right now, so I'm not gonna bother listing five examples. Instead, someone else can fill the blanks for me. Just an idea... We could possibly merge things like Topi, Polar Bear or Octorok with this as well.

Proposer: My Bloody Valentine
Deadline: March 17, 2008, 17:00

Create a Crossover Species List

  1. My Bloody Valentine I'm the Proposer, and all that jazz.
  2. Stumpers! I never thought about it as a way to merge other aritcles, so I'm only in support of the making an article for Hylian, Hedgehogs, Foxes, etc.
  3. 3dhammer.gif 3D, good idee. Those crossover articles are cluttering us up. I'll bet Uniju'll be happy about this. 3dhammer.gif
  4. Stooben Rooben It'll take work, but I think it'll help to get things more organized.
  5. Sprite of the Ruby Star in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door CrystalYoshi Yoshi Egg Sprite.pngIt makes sense. No reason to have several pages about things not actually from Mario.

Don't Create a Crossover Species List

  1. Blitzwing (talk · gnome work) Per Ghost Jam in the comments. Seem rather pointless.
  2. Walkazo - If we're not going to merge already existing articles about crossover species and only not make them in the future that's gonna cause some unneccesary inconsitancies, confusion and more proposals down the road.
  3. Cobold (talk · contribs) - I don't see a reason for merging them. They are all long enough to warrant their own article. (I'm refering to species which are enemies, e.g. ReDead. We wouldn't need articles because crossover characters are of a certain species, e.g. "Hylian")
  4. Ghost JamShyghost.PNG - Per my comments below.

Comments

I'm all in favor, as long as it DOESN'T GET CARRIED OVER TO MARIO SPECIES. This Wik was made so every character and enemy, great or small, gets its own article. 3dhammer.gif 3D, HOO HOO 3dhammer.gif

Not to be Mr. Idiot, but just so I understand things: We'll be making a list article that will contain info on Hedgehogs, Foxes, Topis, and other crossover species; however, we're keeping articles like Sonic and Knuckles because they're about crossover characters? — Stooben Rooben I just wanna be sure before I vote.
I talked with DP about the merging Topis, and he and I are pretty sure we'd like to keep species that are also enemies separate, so Octoroks and such are fine. Nothing that is currently separate will be merged with this proposal as I understand it: the proposal only allows us to include information about hedgehogs and such collectively, so that the reader does not have to search through a bunch of articles to find what he or she believes is all of them... and also to include information about the species as a whole as well. Characters are definately not going to be merged. But, all this is just to my understanding. DP will have to give you the offical word. Stumpers! 17:14, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
This seems like a lot of work for little reward. You're talking about a handful of species that appear more than once, a group of one shots and some species that will, in all likelihood, result in another proposal about what to do with them. This idea either needs to be fleshed out or dropped.
Also, DP, in future, if you are too lazy to properly and completely explain your proposals, then please wait until you are NOT too lazy to do so before making them. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 18:42, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
If I can stand up for DP here, this really would have been a proposal better headed by me. I asked DP to do it for me because I'm occupied with acting in accordance to the results of the "Birdo" proposal. Stumpers! 21:18, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Thanks, Stumpers! Now I'll vote! — Stooben Rooben *votes*
No problem! Thanks for the vote. Stumpers! 22:04, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Sure thing! I try to participate in these as much as possible! — Stooben Rooben It's usually in the best interest of the site!

Me and Stumpers listed a few Crossover species here, if anyone is curious. My Bloody Valentine

Speaking of, Rooben just let me know that Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man are of the Pac species. Stumpers! 23:12, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Thanks guys, that helps. And, my Namco instruction book calls them "Pac"s. — Stooben Rooben But Blinky is just called a ghost.

Hey 3D Ejong, what about the Pokemon characters huh? They were merged into 1 big Pokemon article. (Actually I don't like that. 22360415-149x149-0-0 ++The+SpongeBob+SquarePants+Movie.jpg Boo der dash 180px-MaskedDedede.png

Removals

Final Smash Trophy Information

I noticed that for the characters that are in Super Smash Bros. Brawl articles, there are the Final Smash Trophy information. The exact same information can be found on each of the Final Smash Articles. (e.g. Ike and Great Aether.) I think that the ones one the character's article should be deleted, even if that means we should put a link to the Final Smash article. I don't think there should be two duplicate trophy informations on two articles.

Proposer: Marcelagus (TCE)
Deadline: March 17, 2008, 17:00

No Trophy info on Character pages

  1. Marcelagus (TCE) Well, why would I be against my own proposal? :P Reasons are given above.

Keep Trophy info on Character pages

  1. My Bloody Valentine No one said the Trophy Information had to be restricted to one article each. Its about both the Final Smash and the character using the Final Smash, so, it stays on both articles.
  2. Stumpers! Sometimes there are great bits about personality in those trophies. Take Luigi, for example. Nowhere else are we lead to believe that Luigi's life in the shadow of his brother has done anything... weird to him.
  3. 3dhammer.gif 3D, per all. I mean, what use is there HAVING the trophies then? 3dhammer.gif
  4. Princess Grapes Butterfly Per all. I sorry but I most agree with 3dejong.
  5. Keep it!If trophies were kept,it would be much easier to both guests and users.:]User:Goldguy
  6. linkswordmi2.gifPaper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·linkswordmi2.gif I'd have to agree mostly with Stumps here. We wouldn't know why the heck Luigi has suc ha bizzare Smash if it wasn't for trophy information.
  7. Stooben Rooben Per all.

Comments

Why can't we just keep that info there and put a link to the final smash? BLOC PARTIER.

How do you unlock the Final Smash trophies anyway? Via All-Star mode? --Trogga 15:13, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Splits & Merges

Pokémon stuff

Hi everyone, okay now to business. How do I put this? I think there should be articles for each Pokemon from the Smash Bros. series instead of all into 1 article. Because seperate articles would make more sense (in my opinion), because most of the Pokemon's stuff is mainly trophy stuff and there should be more about the different kinds of Pokemon. A lot of Pokemon do very different kinds of things. Also if by chance, my proposal doesn't work, than somebody has to merge the Dialga, the Palkia, and the Cresselia articles with the Pokémon article. Love Sincerly 22360415-149x149-0-0 ++The+SpongeBob+SquarePants+Movie.jpg Boo der dash 180px-MaskedDedede.png

Proposer: 22360415-149x149-0-0 ++The+SpongeBob+SquarePants+Movie.jpg Boo der dash 180px-MaskedDedede.png Deadline: March 20, 2008, 17:00


Seperate Articles

  1. I'm the proposer and per above. 22360415-149x149-0-0 ++The+SpongeBob+SquarePants+Movie.jpg Boo der dash 180px-MaskedDedede.png

Big List

  1. Walkazo - See comment below.
  2. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Per Walkazo.
  3. Blitzwing (talk · gnome work) - Per Walkazo (Duh).

Comments

The thing is, unlike other crossover species there are tonnes of Pokémon and as this is the MarioWiki they'd be out of place. Plus it'd be inconveniant to navigate all the short little articles, wheras one large article is perfectly fine for the amount of info that can be expected about Pokémon here. If you want to read about the different species in detail, go to Bulbapedia. - Walkazo

I'm just talking about the Pokemon in the Smash Bros. series. 22360415-149x149-0-0 ++The+SpongeBob+SquarePants+Movie.jpg Boo der dash 180px-MaskedDedede.png

We do that because they appear in Poke Balls, and the same logic applies to Assist Trophies. Stumpers! 17:35, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.