MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Super Mario 3D World

Support

 * 1) That shall be featured. I never saw it featured.

Oppose

 * 1) Imcomplete article. And when the game is released there will probably be tonnes of red links as well as several improvement templates scattering the article.
 * 2) What the hell, the game isn't even out yet. And when it does come out, it doesn't instantly make it a featured article. It's just like Super Mario Galaxy 2, where the article still has issues.
 * 3) The game isn't even out yet, meaning that not all of the information about the game is on here yet. Why would it be featured at its current state?
 * 4) I would rather wait a while after it comes out and we know the whole plot of the game first
 * 5) I agree with Petey, I want it as an article, but not until it's released.
 * 6) Article is incomplete and the subject of it hasn't even been released yet.
 * 7) No way! The game isn't even out yet!
 * 8) The game is not released, and the article is still under construction and incomplete. Give it a while after it comes out to feature it.
 * 9) I have the feeling they don't understand what a featured article is, I have the idea they think featured articles are like big or popular or upcoming games or something along those lines, No they are not. But besides that, I have to agree with the rest of them.
 * 10) Pretty much what everyone else said who's opposing. The game is not even out yet and the article's still incomplete.
 * 11) I'm not really sure the support reason is even valid. Just because you've never seen it featured, doesn't mean it should be. But the main thing has already been covered by everyone else: it isn't even out yet.
 * 12) MAN! This game have not yet been realsed, and there are a lot of red links!
 * 13) Let me think... how about no. Per all.
 * 14) Try again once it's released. Right now we don't have enough for it to be featured.
 * 15) The game is not rele-- oh, everyone has said that.
 * 16) Are you from the future? Give us a revision of this page after 11/21/13, 11/22/13, 11/29/13, or 11/30/13 and then we'll consider.
 * 17) Per... Everyone else. Maybe by the time the nomination ends it'll work? It'll have been a month...
 * 18) The game isn't out yet, per everyone else.
 * 19) Per all.
 * 20) Per Yoshi876 and Baby Luigi, The game isn't even released yet.
 * 21) I would like to feature it... but it's not released yet. and doesn't have enough info to be considered a full article yet.
 * 22)  I gotta say no.  Per all.
 * 23) I would not consider this article to even be 50% completed. Per all.
 * 24) I expect huge changes after the game has been released. Thus, we should not feature it.
 * 25) - Aside the incomplete article, the proposer has commited vandalism and spam, he has also been warned at least 4 times, why we are still letting this proposal keep going until December?
 * 26) When the game is released, the article will still be under construction anways. It won't be complete for a while...
 * 27) - Why? Just why? The game is not released yet. Go feature it in the future. Per all.
 * 28) - Seriously, why? It's not even finished!! When it gets finished, theeeen we'll be able to talk about featuring.
 * 29) It's incomplete, not released, has red links, and there is still unknown information!
 * 30) Come on people. FAs need to at least have info.
 * 31) Per everyone. This needs more work.
 * 32) Really, you nominate an article about an unreleased game. Per all.

Comments
This... well, this is one of the flaws about the FA system.

09:41, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * You mean that the FA nomination template will remain until late December, even though the article isn't fit to be featured now, and probably won't be still in December.


 * No no no it's not that complicated. It's that there's nothing stopping people from making asinine nominations such as this, and rather than outright cancelling it we have to go through the whole process as if it's a serious nomination.


 * 09:48, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * I was actually thinking of creating a proposal to allow FA and UNFA nominations to fail before the two month deadline if there's a majority of opposers with valid reasons and counter-arguments aren't provided.


 * That's too complicated for me.


 * 09:51, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
 * I'll make it simpler in the proposal don't worry.
 * This had never been a problem...well except the times when was active and nominated Bike as a featured article. I agree that there should be something, but I don't know what

We already have a limit for the amount of articles one user can nominate, so I think that's enough to discourage the user to nominate multiple articles that clearly do not meet the requirements for FA or UNFA.

SuperLeaf: ''Note to opponents: The game will be released in North America a MONTH before the final decision is made. By then, most nonexistant links will be filled.''
 * A game being released does not affect the quality of this article. It depends on how many willing contributors that have played the game try to complete the article and write it as best as they can. Sure, red links will be filled, but you need to consider the big picture. An article about an unreleased game is and will be incomplete until the game is released and people dedicate their time to this article.
 * It may be released in that time and red links filled, but it will still probably have improvement tags on it so it cannot be featured.
 * Don't press your luck too hard


 * I wonder where you guys get the screenshots?
 * Press releases
 * Which Press, specifically?
 * I have no clue, I'm not the uploader of the screenshots and game-art. All I know is that they're official press releases.
 * Okey dokey, then! http://www.nintendomination.de/en/neueste-download-titel/433-mehrere-super-mario-3d-world-gameplay-videos
 * For the record, I'm currently on the Wii U's Internet Browser. http://www.ign.com/videos/games/super-mario-wii-u-wii-u-112718
 * Also: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2303399/mario-kart-8-for-wii-u-will-be-released-on-25-april-says-uk-retailer
 * By the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI8slLrX0kA
 * Uh yeah, please refrain from making comments unrelated to the feature process, thank you
 * All right, Baby Luigi. I just though you guys might want some more updates, just incase. Sorry.

Damn it, at this rate, this nomination page is going to stick here for a while.

I have a weird feeling that some of the users who supported are fake. 3 of 'em have no talk page! (and that's why I'm so suspicious)
 * I have seen people create accounts solely for voting on this, but none of them have actually been blocked so they're fine.
 * Has a patroller/admin checked their IPs? I'm kinda suspicious that they could be socks. Just saying.
 * It's more likely just a high traffic page garnering attention. "Oooo! This game is exciting! OOOOo! This article is nominated to be featured! WE NEED TO FEATURE IT!" *votes* Or something less exaggerated than that.

Notice how most of these users are beginners to Mario Wiki who voted that it should be a featured article. User:Peteyking64
 * Yep, I highly doubt any of them read the actual requirements for an article to be featured, besides it'll take a miracle for this to pass.