Talk:Super Mario 3D Land/Archive 1

Wait a second... How do you know if it's single player AND MULTI PLAYER? --Master Koopakid 07:49, 5 February 2011 (EST)
 * That just means both cna be played. Tons of Mario games have had single and multi player.
 * Is there proof that there's multiplayer?
 * It is only known about on the Ask Iwata interview. At the end they talk about making the game, but no information is given what mode it will be. In this case, it should be removed untill there is information about what mode it is. Or you could say N/A.
 * I don't know how I ended up thinking that it will be multiplayer.
 * "Tezuka: I think New Super Mario Bros. Wii firmly established the idea of everyone in the family playing together. Iwata: Yes. I think families played the original Super Mario Bros. together, too. I feel like New Super Mario Bros. Wii suddenly brought us back to that time, and expanded upon it. Tezuka: Yeah. I want to keep heading in that direction so the games are a tool for family bonding. However, I want the games to be a tool for expanding upon previously existing good elements rather than for making something different. #ccc Miyamoto: Yes. So, in the interests of adopting new technology for the Super Mario Bros. tradition, I am now making a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Nintendo 3DS system. Iwata: The next stage for the Super Mario Bros. Preservation Society's activities is the Nintendo 3DS. Miyamoto: Yes. (laughs) I want to show everyone as soon as possible what the new Super Mario Bros. will be like on the Nintendo 3DS."…Still confusing.

[N]SMB3DS
Okay, will this be a remake of SMB3, a SMB3-ish game, a SMB-ish/sub-series game, or a sequel to NSMBW? Oh, and should the SM3DS article exist? Cause Nintendo also mentioned LM3DS, and if LM3DS won't be an appropriate article, then this shouldn't either.--Holyromanemperortatan 18:23, 8 February 2011 (EST)
 * We don't know what kind of game this will be other than it's supposed to be some kind of Mario Bros. game. This article doesn't include much more than where it was announced and that it's going to be on the 3DS, so I don't think the article is worth it either. But it may be worth keeping for when more info comes.
 * If it is deleted, it can still be recovered when SMB3DS is truely confirmed.--Holyromanemperortatan 18:35, 8 February 2011 (EST)

IGn's confirmed a Super Mario 3DS, but they say it is unknown if it a side-scroller or a 3D game. --Holyromanemperortatan 17:42, 24 February 2011 (EST)

--It's a 3-d Game. IGGY7735

Actually,according to what I learned from the article(and I read it in the article)its a 3-D AND a 2-D, kind of like the Galaxy games.--=D Smileymiley5001 =D 05:07, 6 March 2011 (EST)

It's 3D world (like SM64), but it can be played with 2D or 3D graphics.--Holyromanemperortatan 16:43, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

New screens ?


Should we add this to the article ? Does anyone have the logo too ? Koopalmier 12:55, 2 March 2011 (EST)

I propose we change the article's name. A Super Mario Bros. title hasn't been OFFICIALY announced. Miyamoto did say they're making one, but they're constantly making main series Mario games so it's no surprise. Super Mario 3DS is now official though. Also, noticed there's a Comet Medal on one of these screens. Koopalmier 13:03, 2 March 2011 (EST)

If you look at the bottom-left screen, you can barely see Mario without his hat. 13:06, 2 March 2011 (EST)
 * Yeah, sorry for the badly made screenshot. I was too excited. I couldn't screenshot the logo either, but someone could try and make an exact copy of it. Koopalmier 13:08, 2 March 2011 (EST)
 * More importantly, it's Small Mario. My excitement level is too high. Koopalmier 13:17, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Awesome screens. I want them in the article. (Resembles SMG, huh?)
 * It closer resembles Super Mario 64, in my opinion, especially in the top-right screenshot. We can conclude it resembles the 3D series as a whole. 13:25, 2 March 2011 (EST)



Better than free ice cream. Koopalmier 13:29, 2 March 2011 (EST)
 * Is this from a video? Do you have a link to said video? 13:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)
 * It's from the live stream, which is over now. I guess someone recorded it and will put it on Youtube soon. But the only thing we know about this game is that there'll be invisible blocks. Koopalmier 13:35, 2 March 2011 (EST)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-2ONYDpvU -Purpl :)

Anybody was hinted that Raccoon:: Mario would come back? -Forum-like question off permanently-

I've took a better screenshot (without Iwata's head) with logo as well. I hope it'll let you see the whole thing. Also I took the eShop thing, I'm going to add it to the 3DS article.
 * Ah, almost forgot here's that video.

Bet you anything, this game will be released later this year. After all, it has been 30 years of Mario. Can someone post the logo on the page? User:DK Fan

I heard there will be Mario with a Raccoon Tail from Super Mario Bros. 3, Raccoon Mario that is. It would be sure that Mario would need a Super Leaf for that. --Prince Ludwig 15:18, 2 March 2011 (EST)
 * Here's what Iwata said:"Why do you think there's a tail in the logo? Decide yourself! You'll find it out in next E3."TAIL, not just a speculation of drawing.
 * Which, in turn, means it's a guess and shouldn't be on the article. 15:30, 2 March 2011 (EST)

The screenshot on the top left looks similar to Yoshi Star Galaxy don't you guys think so. It has Piranha Plants and that hill on the starting planet.--YoshiGo99 16:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)

How do you expect Mario to grow up into Super Mario? Who removed the Super Mushroom? I know there's no Super Mushroom in any screenshots, but Mario will surely need it to turn into Super Mario.

In the level with many platforms at the top there is a yellow X thing near a Question Block. What is it?--YoshiGo99 21:20, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Don't know...but we will find out soon enough. Why the game looks to have many planets? Sounds interesting. I hope the game does not feature another hub.--Prince Ludwig 23:05, 2 March 2011 (EST)


 * The hubs are staples of the 3D games. I think they should have one, whatever it may be. Teamrocketspy621 23:09, 2 March 2011 (EST)

Maybe it's Yoshi's tounge. DK Fan

2D + 3D
Seeing the bottom left image on that image showing screenshots of the game, I think the game will be a 3D game that has the similar powerup system to the 2D games. In addition, I think that it will not be some sort of 3D version of SMB3 but it will probably have the Raccoon Leaf will be one of th powerups.
 * The second and fourth screenshot lead to believe it'll have much more platforming, yet the first and second screen lead to believe it'll be an open world like Super Mario 64's levels. Maybe it's a mix of both ? It has SM64's open worlds, SMS' platforming, SMG's style and SMG2's colors. It's going to be a VERY great game. Koopalmier 01:26, 3 March 2011 (EST)
 * Koopalimer. I can state that I agree with you. It will be a great game I am sure.

It's 3D world (like SM64), but it can be played with 2D or 3D graphics.--Holyromanemperortatan 16:43, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

Rename
Can it be renamed to "Super Mario (game)"?

I don't see the issue, but we can keep the current title until E3 2011 in June, including for the rest of the Mario 3DS games...--Prince Ludwig 00:30, 4 March 2011 (EST)

Comet Medals' different appearance
Look closely at the Comet Medals...they don't seem to have a comet star's mark on it, looks more like a regular star. Looks more like Comet Medal-like Star Coins as Bonus Coins in the game...so it seems. Well, we don't know for sure until June.
 * The video was in very bad quality, but I can barely see the tail. But of course they can be Star Coins. Needs more info.

Well, I don't know for sure...To tell you the truth, I really vote for the Comet Medal to reappear instead of Star Coins...What if Luigi and Yoshi reappears...please, don't make the game's story of Bowser kidnapping Princess Peach again...I can't take it.

Personally,I prefer Star Coins. It looks a lot like a Comet Medal though.And the tail on the logo might mean that they are bringing in loads of new power-ups that turn him into animals that have tails.I think Nintendo should make a game about Princess Eclair(my favourite princess).Still, though should this kinda thing be on the forum.--=D Smileymiley5001 =D 05:17, 6 March 2011 (EST)

I can't wait to see more details, and the official trailer too. Wonder they would bring new enemies, I really want Raccoon Mario or Luigi to appear again--especially, Yoshi again! A new Mario game must return old enemies, especially Wart, he was said to have potential for spin-offs too, during years ago, even he was suggested to be in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. :D --Prince Ludwig 22:49, 8 March 2011 (EST)

Your comment is forum chatter. Please don't chat on talk pages and go to the Mario Wiki forum to chat instead.

Where is the forum chatter?--Prince Ludwig 05:33, 9 March 2011 (EST)
 * Here.

I can't do that. I've had enough registred accounts.--Prince Ludwig 05:26, 10 March 2011 (EST)
 * What's your problem?

Well, I've registred accounts in my name on several cite webs, I think I've had enough. I also won't remember where my accounts are, since there's some many places I need to remember. --Prince Ludwig 21:09, 10 March 2011 (EST)


 * No comet's tail, most likely a Star Coin. And also, Prince Ludwig, you can just place links to all of the websites you're on in your user/talk page to remind you of what you're on and other people can take a look of what you've been doing on those sites. I did that.

Mushroom Kingdom or Outside
I wonder if the game takes place outside the Mushroom Kingdom...it doesn't look like it is set in the Mushroom Kingdom. I'm probably sure it takes place somewhere else on Mushroom World. I wish we can also have to travel through the Mushroom Kingdom to the outside world, like Super Mario Bros. 3 to Super Mario Galaxy 2. If that was the case, I'm not sure the game will feature a hub world again.--Prince Ludwig 22:49, 8 March 2011 (EST)
 * What if the hub is Peach's Castle or some other place? That would be interesting.--Holyromanemperortatan 19:32, 9 March 2011 (EST)

No, no, no, some other type of adventure. Look how we play Ocarina of Time for example--It would be interesting if we can play a free-traveling adventure. We've played 3D Mario main series and they feature a hub, the rest are side-scrolling games. If I look closely at Super Mario Bros. 3D, it don't seem to feature a hub world. But we won't know until E3 2010.--Prince Ludwig 05:26, 10 March 2011 (EST)

Please avoid talking about things unrelated to improving the article here; chat on the forums.

Why are you removing many infos?
When we edit this arcticle...I've notice that some users who tries to add infos, the rest of them are removing stuff, like they don't want to contain more. I'd say...regardless it's useless or useful, we need them.--Prince Ludwig 07:31, 16 March 2011 (EDT)
 * Only confirmed information can be present in the article. No speculation. I'd say this article has pretty much all the confirmed info in it.

Hmmmmmmmmm
so is this game supposed to be a remake of a super Mario bros 3 but in 3D??????


 * No, it isn't.


 * Oh really? Cause the screens look like from super mario bros 3. so wasn't supposed to be from it? i forgetPaulioetc19 07:10, 20 March 2011 (EDT)


 * Nobody other then me realized that this is the first handheld 3D environment MAIN Mario game? -PokemonMaster
 * Super Mario 64 DS is.


 * I mean main games.

List of Main Games:
 * Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Bros. 2
 * Super Mario Bros. 3
 * Super Mario All Stars
 * Super Mario 64
 * Super Mario Sunshine
 * New Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Galaxy
 * New Super Mario Bros. Wii
 * Super Mario Galaxy 2
 * Super Mario All Stars 25th Anniversary Edition
 * Super Mario 3DS -PokemonMaster
 * Super Mario 64 DS is a main game too.


 * I pretty sure all main games where listed in the "Super Mario All Stars Book" thing. -PokemonMaster
 * Is Super Mario 64 DS is a racing game? Party game? Sport game? Education game? RPG? Puzzle game? A fighting game? No? Then what is it? It's platform game. By going into your logic, platform game = main game.
 * Super Mario 64 DS isn't a main series game: in the main series each game is different. Super Mario 64 DS and Super Mario All Stars 25th Anniversary Edition are remakes, games similar to the originals (SM64DS=SM64, SMAS (wii)=SMAS (snes)=SMB,SMB2,SMB3,SMBTLL).
 * SM64DS isn't remake, it has different story, different gameplay and different stars. By making similarties, I'll say that SMG2 isn't Main game too.
 * Well whatever you want to call SM64DS, but I say it's a remake but with diffrent tactics, new gameplay but it's because it was on a DS so it has to be different. The story isn't that different- still 120 stars but with 30 extra stars, but your right SMG2 is not a remake -Purpl
 * ok, SM64DS is a main game, but I say this because writing is boring.

Sorry to interject into this conversation without quite knowing everyone's opinions, but the way I see it is this: Super Mario 64 DS is a remake. Canonically, it "replaced" the original game, per say, in that nebulous Mario timeline that doesn't really exist. Both are main series games, but, as a remake, Super Mario 64 DS does not count as a new adventure. Regarding that list above, Super Mario All-Stars, no matter the version (+ Super Mario World, 25th Anniversary Edition), is a compilation of remakes. Nothing is even changed regarding gameplay. So Super Mario All-Stars doesn't count as a main series game since it's just a retelling of the other games. So, the main series games are as follows, the way I see it: Just my two cents. Thought I'd try to clear this up/give my opinion on the matter. Teamrocketspy621 13:47, 23 March 2011 (EDT)
 * Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Bros. 2 (The Lost Levels)
 * Super Mario USA (Super Mario Bros. 2)
 * Super Mario Bros. 3
 * Super Mario World
 * Super Mario 64
 * Super Mario Sunshine
 * New Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Galaxy
 * New Super Mario Bros. Wii
 * Super Mario Galaxy 2
 * Super Mario 3D
 * There's no such term "Main game", there are "Platform", "RPG", "Sport", "Puzzle", "Fighting", etc. (1)First (2)3D (3)platform (4)handheld (5)game (6)which is also not a remake is Super Mario, but isn't it's too complicated? We would say like that on all other articles, for example: (1)First (2)handheld (3)Mario (4)Party (5)game (6)that featured Toad as playable character (you know, what I mean…)

SM64DS and SM All-Stars(Wii) are just remakes. SM3DS can be considered a "SM645", since SMS=SM642, SMG1=SM643, and SMG2=SM644.--Holyromanemperortatan 21:04, 28 March 2011 (EDT)
 * They aren't even similar to each other.

The fact that gameplay is similar doesn't mean it's the same game! Where the heck did you get that SM64[insert number here] idea?
 * Well Sunshine may be 64's sequel, so it is SM642. Galaxy 1 may be Sunshine's sequel, so it the third installment or SM643. And so forth with SMG2 and SM3DS.--Holyromanemperortatan 16:04, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

Show me at least 1 similarity (not between SMG and SMG2).

They are all 3D world games featuring Mario running and jumping. The controls are very similar: move with analog stick, press one botton to jump, etc. The moves are also similar: ground pound, jump, etc. What makes these games similar is that Mario is a 3D world. Sunshine is a reboot or continuation of 64 as Bowser agian kidnaps Peach, Bowser also now has Bowser Jr. Mario and co. are taking a vacation. You can speculate that after Mario rescued Peach in 64, they decided to take a vacation.--Holyromanemperortatan 12:28, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 * We can also speculate that Link from Ocarina of Time has transformed into a bear and appeared in the Banjo-Kazooie. Also your comment didn't make any sence for me. In SM64: You jump around castle finding passages and defeat Bowser for Peach's cake; in SMS you trying to escape from the island becouse imposter (who's later appeared as Bowser Jr.) has painted the whole island; in SMG the Giant Bowser has interrupted the Star Festival to steal Youknowwho and flee to the center of the endless universe (what?), Mario met Rosalina which helped him to get to the Bowser in exchange for a few Grand Stars; in SMG2 there's similar prologue as in SMG, but instad of Rosalina on huge comet he meets some fat-looking purple Luma that reques even more Grand Stars, but it's requed to make Portals to another world, rather than just giving them for no partipicular reason. So as you can see, all 4 games aren't similar.
 * "We can also speculate that Link from Ocarina of Time has transformed into a bear and appeared in the Banjo-Kazooie." ...whaaaat? This makes absolutaly no sense. At all. No, we can't speculate that, it's completaly random, impossible and stupid. I won't say any more on this because anyone should be able to see why. "So as you can see, all 4 games aren't similar." Wow, you seem to have missed everything he said. I'll repeat: They are all 3D world adventure games. They all have similar controls (moving with analog stick, press one button to jump, etc.) and moves (3D running and jumping, ground pound, etc.). 64 and the galaxy games all require you to rescue (power?) stars (I don't know much about Sunshine). So as you can see, all 4 games ARE similar. I'm also concerned you think Link and Rare are related in any way. --Lair of Rockwhales 00:21, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
 * Don't you call someone else's comment stupid. SWFlash's just stating an opinion.
 * Funny, I don't ever recal calling anyone's comment stupid in all bold. If I did, Please do direct me to it, because I fail to find it. Lair of Rockwhales 02:17, 1 June 2011 (EDT)


 * Also, the speculation about the vacation in Sunshine, from what I've seen, leans to it taking place after Luigi's Mansion, and is linked as such in several articles here. Lair of Rockwhales 02:40, 1 June 2011 (EDT)

Here's what I see are the main games:
 * Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
 * Super Mario Bros. 2
 * Super Mario Bros. 3
 * Super Mario Land
 * Super Mario World
 * Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins
 * Super Mario 64
 * Super Mario Sunshine
 * New Super Mario Bros.
 * Super Mario Galaxy
 * New Super Mario Bros. Wii
 * Super Mario Galaxy 2
 * Super Mario (Nintendo 3DS)

Release date?
IGN has the game slated for release on December 31st, 2011. Multiple non-Mario-related games have this date as well, so I'm assuming it's a placeholder until Nintendo confirms the actual release date (the only date confirmed thus far for upcoming games is that of Ocarina of Time 3D for June 19th, but I digress). Obviously, that is what we should wait for, but I felt it necessary to keep users informed.
 * It is a placeholder, as many previous games have had this date before they were released as well. I'm assuming it means that the game will be released before December 31, therefore the date should be 2011.
 * The game's coming out sometime between June 8 and December 31 'cause it comes out this year.--Holyromanemperortatan 12:29, 25 April 2011 (EDT)

That 3DS trailer
You may have forgot already, but there was a trailer where there was some kind of Bowser's battle that starts at 1:16. Some of the gameplay features are very similar to the screenshots from GDC.
 * That's just a parody of NSMBW, especially that Bowser battle.--Holyromanemperortatan 18:25, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
 * The real trailer will debut in June 7, 8 or 9 at E3 2011.--Prince Ludwig 03:19, 1 June 2011 (EDT)

The Boss dude
The official E3 2011 Trailer showed Mario fighting a boss(?) that resemblesd a Boom Booom. Should we add it in as "unnamed boss creature that resembles Boom Boom?" Ratfink43


 * Yeah, we should

Should we call the brown mushroom creatures "unnamed mushroom creatures that resemble goombas"? no.It's Boom-Boom.The game has several similarities to SMB3. The only difference is his shell changed,just like the Koopalings.


 * I know it's probably confirmed by now, but you can't know if it's Boom Boom or a similar looking enemy, there's no confirmation, even if it looks just the same. Think of Klampons and Klomps in DKC2, they look just like Kremlings and Klaptraps, but they aren't the same.


 * Actually, I saw that "Boom-Boom" was NOT attacking simalar to Mario 3, he was spinnin' like a top! Aside from the look, he does nothing Boom-Boom!!!!!! So, you ARE correct, Ratfink43.-KoopaMan.pngManKoopaMan.png {Talk}

Well it could be a new move for the Boom Boom. Also it might have a new design.


 * Never thought o'that.........................................KoopaMan


 * Actually, Koopa Man, you might be on to something.---Pinklink
 * Not really if you think about it Boom Boom's regular attack wouldn't work in 3D since he attacks by swinging his arms and charging at mario also the redesign resembles the way Boom Boom looks in the cartoons


 * Ya nailed me there Goomba Shoe but I don't think it's him, he does NOT have horns here!!!!


 * Actually, It's already confirmed that the boss dude is Boom Boom. Nintendo wanted to make him more 3D-ish. They also made him completly new!!!
 * Y shud I beeleeve U?
 * Because he's telling go watch an episode of the super mario bros. 3 cartoon that has boom boom in it cause that's the design there using for him
 * Yeah, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

If it's not confirmed to be Boom Boom, just say it's unnamed, because otherwise, you'll be speculating, which is against the rules.
 * FawfulFury 65. More like Fowful BORING 65.

@Fawfulfury65 Bowser wasn't named on this picture, but we have "Bowser" in vilians list. Do we have to delete him as well?
 * The difference is that the boss (who i hope and pray is Boom Boom cause i loves Boom Boom) does not really look like Boom Boom but Bowser looks like Bowser

It's obvious that's Bowser in the picture, but it's not a good idea to put Boom Boom in as a character if you're not sure that that character is actually Boom Boom. It definitely does look like him, though.
 * Finally someone's seeing eye-2-I with me.


 * Maybe it IS BOOM-BOOM.....KoopaMan


 * It's been confirmed to be BOOM BOOM already

Music Theme
The music for the trailer sounds like Bob-omb Battlefield and Throwback Galaxy's music but it sound also like the Main SMB3 theme (the music for the first level) and I am not sure?
 * Most the theme sounds new. This is the only theme we have so far heard that plays in 2-1. I'm pretty sure the three other levels included in the playable demo had other themes and 2-5 may have had a remix of the Airship theme (unconfirmed).--Holyromanemperortatan 14:13, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

Developer
The people behind the game is Nintendo EAD Tokyo, not just generally "Nintendo." For some reason I can't edit the article, so someone should do it for me. --Mechawave 18:31, 10 June 2011 (EDT)


 * You cannot edit the article because you aren't autoconfirmed yet.

18:41, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
 * There are a lot of articles that say "Nintendo" instead of the developing company, not just this article.

Tanoombas
Have you noticed the Tanoombas? Don't say "That's a coincidence! Those just happen to be Tanooki-Goombas of some sort!". I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. Can I re-label them? Please? At least until more info is out.


 * No you need an official source


 * Besides, Tanooki Mario is not what appears in the trailer. That's Racoon Mario.


 * No it's Tanooki Mario Raccoon Mario doesn't have a full suit he just has the tail and Raccoon ears
 * By the logic, those creatures will be named "Racoomba", because Tanoomba is fully suited, while those Goombas aren't.
 * If it were Tanooki Mario, he'd be able to turn into a statue. Miyamoto's not doing that (as far as I know), so it's Raccoon Mario.
 * Actually, at the E3 roundtable, Myamoto said that it was Tanooki Mario returning, not Raccoon Mario.

Can you guys really not tell the difference between Racoon Mario and Tanooki Mario? Tanooki Mario has a full suit,while Racoon Mario only has ears and a tail.In Super Mario 3D,Nintendo downgraded Tanooki Mario's abilities because they didnt work good in a 3d environment.As for the Goombas,just wait until the game comes out to name them.

@ What about this image then:  He can turn to stone.--TheNo1MarioBros 15:25, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
 * (Speculations) He may have been turned into stone by Bowser and it's Mario's mission to recover him.
 * Good idea, but he is clearly wearing a tonooki suit.--TheNo1MarioBros 16:11, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Why are you using that image? It's Luigi, not Mario.
 * But it is Tanooki Luigi. Mario &amp; Luigi
 * Also, it looks like he might be in this File: SM3DL_Art2.png--TheNo1MarioBros 16:36, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
 * He is. That's where I got the Tanooki Luigi image from. Mario &amp; Luigi

Oh, now I get it.--TheNo1MarioBros 02:29, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

THE SOURCE OFFICIAL ART
Here's the source of Nintendo's official art for this game.

It's from here,

http://press.nintendo.com/E32011/

The username is "E32011", case-sensitive.

The password is "nintendo".

Super Mario is on the right.

Huh?
What does it mean when this says will be released on Holiday 2011 in the United States??? 0~o

I think it is suppose to mean Released around the Holidays of 2011...

It most likely means around Christmas.
 * When they say Holiday (as in the holiday season), they're referring to November/December.

Warp Zone


Whoa! That's awesome! PurlBananah1PurplBananah1 19:14, 14 August 2011 (EDT)

It won't be released in August after all? :(
I was like hyper excited when i found out that this game will be released in Europe in August 2011, but now the European release date is gone. It dossn't even stand TBD like other articles. Is the game going to come out in Europe in August or was that a troll writing speculations? It could be that the release date was correct and some troll removed It. Was the European Release Date confirmed true or not? If yes, who removed it and if no, who stated it in the first place??? User:MarioMaster720
 * An official source from Nintendo states that is is coming to Europe in August, so it is true, unless it is delayed.

What I saw
At E3 I never saw Mario Back Flipping, Crawling and Hanging Ledges. That's what Mario does in 3D Games. Also shouldn't Mario start at his normal size rather than his powered up form. I'll say more later. Thanks. --CuriousMario390 8:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Here's some more info
Hey guys I'm new here and I got some info on Super Mario 3D-

While giving examples of how the Nintendo 3DS enhances gameplay, Miyamoto has stated that hitting blocks from underneath in 3D Mario games would be much easier with stereoscopic 3D. Blocks will be more present in the game, unlike past 3D games, where blocks were more few and far between. Star Coins that have a similar design kinda like the Comet Medals from Super Mario Galaxy 2 will be found in each level, with collecting all three being part of the level's challenge, like in the New Super Mario Bros. games. Checkpoint Flags and Green timers can be picked up to give the player more time to complete the level, the latter a mechanic only seen previously in Super Mario Galaxy 2's Speedy Comet missions. Mario himself returns with some of his trademark 3D abilities, such as the Wall Jump, Long Jump, and Ground Pound, and is now capable of performing somersault, which is done by crouching while moving. Because the Long Jump is now performed by a somersault, it includes a front flip during the jump, but is functionally identical. Mario's health system is now based on the side-scrolling titles than being a numbered meter: one hit shrinks Mario to a smaller size and removes his cap, while power-ups give him an extra health point. These power-ups include the Super Mushroom, the Fire Flower, the Star, and the Super Leaf, the last of which has not been seen since SMB3. Notably, the Fire Flower, unlike its previous 3D appearances in Super Mario Galaxy and its sequel, no longer has a time limit imposed on it and is retained until Mario is hit, as in the side-scrolling game.
 * Where's your source? 09:43, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
 * This info is already in the article.

Soundtrack
Hey, I could notice Fever from Dr. Mario and the athletic theme from SMB3 in this video, what do you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQc8JzgcFkQ&feature=player_embedded#at=91


 * That's probably just the music that Irategamer added to the video so random sounds from E3 wouldn't be heard.. 21:44, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
 * It is. He uses a mix of gameplay and trailer footage, and that music plays throughout.

Official Name
How do we know it is called Super Mario 3D land. I thought it's official name was Super Mario 3D. We need some kind of source for that don't we?

The source is on the bold text of next to the game title.

Ok. I just wanted to know because I thought the official name was Super Mario 3D but it isn't now.

Sequel?
Sequel to Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3? Super Waluigi 18:34, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
 * There is no confirmation that 3D Land is a Super Mario Land game. And anyways, the game you mentioned already have a sequel. Jazama 19:41, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

Elements from Other Games
If making an accurate assumtion is out of consideration, does any source validate weather or not the same game play will be utilized as New Super Mario Bros. or Super Mario Galaxy? Or will both game scenerios be included? Fire Flower


 * It's a brand new game. It's definitely going to be a 3D game, but the details are all new.  If anything, it's probably most similar to Super Mario 64, or Super Mario Bros. 3. --The Great Toad85 Is Here. 08:05, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

New logo
So... is there any sight for the new logo yet? As Mario Kart 7's one was already found. --Byllant 19:09, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

There is now,but i'm wondering where it came from.

I hope it won't have that Background, it looks fine just I hope to see the logo without a background.

Should any long-forgotten enemies return?
I was wondering if any enemies that only appeared in really old Mario games (like Super Mario Bros. 2) should return. You know the Panser? How about the Football Koopa from Super Mario World? I think they should both return in Super Mario 3d Land.


 * This is not a forum. Talk about that stuff on the forums please.

The first reference is invalid.
the website where this reference http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/mario-kart-7-super-mario-land-3d-get-official-release-dates Is not a reliable source. Want proof? read this http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/gamescom-2011-sonic-invades-super-mario-3d-land. This is as fake as it gets.

Actually read them first before you think it's fake.

I did,and it's obviously fake.

You don't know that. I'm pretty sure it is real for the second one, and the first one is obviously real.

The first one is real,besides the release dates,which are speculation,and the Second one is a rumor. It originated from a joke on a website called sarcastic gamer or something.

If thats true,then halo is coming to 3ds -__- http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/category/fake-news


 * Hey, why can't you realise that those news are in the "Fake News" Section. IT EVEN SAYS IT IN THE URL. - Nyan Cat.gif  Conan  Shinichi!    16:46, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

That was my whole point -_- gamerlivetv.com said the fake news was real,thus making it an unreliable source.

official page
as i said on the Mario Kart 7 talk page nintendo has an official page up for this game now, you can see it here I'm not sure if there's anything new there, but I'm sure some of you who've been keeping track of the changes to this page and helping make it will know better than me Reddo 23:47, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

eShop Demo
I went to the link on the main page (the one that announced a new Yoshi game is being developed) and it said that a Super Mario 3D Land demo would be released. Is that true, and if so, should it be added somewhere on the page?

Let wait until the conference on the 13th for that detail to be confirmed.


 * So was anything mentioned about a demo?

Peach and other characters probably confirmed.
Hello. I've found, on a French Website, this image: http://img74.xooimage.com/files/5/b/3/pic-2ccc5ba.png

It probably confirms that Peach, "Bam Bam" and a sort of flying Dorry will be in the game.

--Fire-Luigi 14:10, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

That picture proves a lot of things. I added the information, but do you have the link to the site? I want to put it as Source so people won't delete it before they see the picture here :) User:MarioMaster720

Yep: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/jeux/images/nintendo-3ds/00039863/super-mario-3d-land-p020.htm

This is the direct link: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/screenshots/images/00039/00039863_021.htm

But the problem is that if a new image is added, this link will redirect to another pic :|.

--Fire-Luigi 15:16, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

What do you mean? User:MarioMaster720

Thats a Tamagon! http://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/41/Trophy291.PNG

I think that flying blue thing is an Eerie, it is possibly a redesign but it hasn't been confirmed.

I wonder what the Tanooki-Bullet Bill does... Does anyone have an idea?--Chuggazconroy 22:01, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

Just to clarify...
The False Bowsers are the ones with the raccoon tails (as seen in the new trailer), right?

I don't know for sure but we should know by the time the game is released. Mario3D64

Yes, It's referring to the Tanooki-tailed Bowser. It's not confirmed that it's a False Bowser, but it is likely considering Bowser's official art from the game shows him with his normal tail. User:MarioMaster720

And during the part in the trailer when Bowser was breathing fireballs, I think I saw a Toad held captive in the far right, so they could possibly be Mushroom Retainers, or just Toads that have the same roles (There better not be anymore news of the princess being in another castle)

I saw that too. Those MUST be False Bowsers. I have to admit that those are really good diguises. User:MarioMaster720

Hey
Where's the Aussie Flag in the release dates section? And Standard Mario should not have artwork (one with short arms and legs). 096rebmulp &amp; loor k niatpak 09:56, 30 September 2011 (EDT)
 * 1. Australa doesn't have a release date because it wasn't announced. 2. Do a little research before you say soething. It's one of the four artworks that were released by Nintendo lately.

Add this to super Mario land series page?
Should this game be added to the super Mario land series page? I say it should be

No...


 * To expand what he said, Super Mario 3D Land is a game for the 3DS where all the characters are solid and the player can move in four directions and can control the camera, while the Super Mario Land series are games for the Game Boy where the characters are sprites and the player can only move in two dimensions, so the game is too different to be in the same series. Jazama 19:36, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

Yes I know what the land series is I was suggesting for it to be added is due to the "land" in the name and we can say it's the first 3D game of the series hence the "3D land" in the title

donaldthescotishtwin

Still, no...

Check this out
Guys, check this and this out. I've found that Luigi's in there too.--Prince Ludwig 17:41, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

Artwork stuff
So where has all this recent artwork come from, is there are full version of the artwork or is that the highest it can go?

Main Theme without sound effects
Hey, here there is the Main Theme without sound effects, and it isn't a fan-made. --Sfavillotto (talk) 11:04, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
 * And here there is the theme of World 1-2. --Sfavillotto (talk) 11:16, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

Birds
In many levels of SM3DL small birds appear, as the butterflies have an article I believe we should mention these birds somewhere, but where?
 * Until they have a name and/or clearly defined purpose or function, we do nothing.

Translation
Hey guys I'm new to mario wiki,but I translated the tanooki tailed bob-ombs name("Shippo bomuhei")and I translated "if the tail to bomb".Also I translated the tanooki tailed bullet bills name("Shippo kirā")and it translated to Tail killer.If you guys want to add these be my guest. I used Google translate by the way.Thanks! Sincerely, Jjcraze 12:15, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Hi, I added japanese name; when enemys have the tail simply adds "Shippo" to their name; then limit ourselves to wait for the official english names--Sfavillotto (talk) 12:24, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

Ok thank you. I'll try to contribute to super mario wiki as best as I can,but since I don't live in Japan I don't get news very fast. I'm going to continue in the SM3DL discussion with you guys. Jjcraze 16:53, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

16 Worlds ?
In this pages: http://nintendoeverything.com/76696/more-super-mario-3d-land-details-possible-spoilers/, it said "- Eight new unlockable worlds after you save Peach"

Does it means the game will have 16 Worlds oO ? Fire-Luigi 13:37, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
 * If you mean 8 (16 stands for Sixteen), then maybe.

If you count Special Worlds then yes--NJE 18:27, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Australian Pre-order gift
It's a plush tanooki hat! --Sfavillotto (talk) 03:23, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Weird...
World 3-3 is the yarn-walls level or the green panels level? 19:05, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Strange, I think it the yarn level.

But, strangely, the new trailers show the two... 20:34, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

I think both are in the game just the switched 'em around. We will wait and see how they do it it.

Demo at Best Buy! World 1-1 completely revealed!
LOOK AT THIS:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5p4YMpf5Rc&feature=player_embedded This shows a Demo of Super Mario 3D Land in America's Best Buy stores. The demo isn't the same as the E3 Demo and it just lets you play world 1-1. Also, notice the screen. This might be a function of the 3DS after the Update :D It's just too bad that it's (so far) America only so I can't play it. Anyway, maybe there is something new to add to the article? User:MarioMaster720

Why does everyone ignore my comments :) CAN I GET A REPLY! Please :) User:MarioMaster720
 * It's not important enough to be included in the article.

You Misunderstood. I meant does the level itself have any new stuff or anything that can be added? User:MarioMaster720
 * Not at the moment.

About Luigi
I think it needs to be told that you can ONLY get Luigi after playing through World 8-4  No Super Mario game is complete without an appearance by his brother Luigi, who has now been confirmed as a bonus playable character once players zip their way through world 8-4 as Mario.

It also needs to be told that their looks to be an 8th world, the article says 7

11/3 EDIT:Looks like the final level of the main game is 8-7, I havnt seen Luigi in anything but that 20 second trailer

Time Trials
Been confirmed that their are time trials in this game

Released
I believe it's been released in Japan (due to time zones). I'm not adding that, though, because I haven't confirmed it.

- Pink Boozooka


 * I just did so (on the news template); besides, we have to announce the release of it, regardless of what region got it first. I'll also see about placing that "Just Released" template on the article itself too. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 22:31, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

90% Of Levels revealed!
This guy has videos of every level in the game up to world 8: http://www.youtube.com/user/asdfkdgija#p/u/10/wJGWePyKDCM

Can someone create pages for the world in the game and explain the level more detailed? User:MarioMaster720
 * Too bad they have no audio.

There must be something wrong with your ears.... Completely Normal in-game audio. What are you talking about -_- User:MarioMaster720

Yeah, there is Audio, and even if there wasnt audio, we would still get new info

Sign your comments and why hasn't anyone started editing yet! Not trying to be rude, but this is lazy. There's enough new info for 2 whole pages and nothing has been done. Except the small and for the most part wrong stage descriptions. Besides levels there are a TON of stuff to add! No one has even noticed that the Peewee Piranha battle theme DOESN'T play during the battle with Boom Boom at world 2-5. It was just a placeholder song for the demo. There's a new mini boss song playing! EDIT THE ARTICLE PEOPLE :) User:MarioMaster720

We got 8-2, 8-4, 8-5, 8-6, 8-7, and special worlds we can add --NJE 17:22, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Spoilers!!
Final Boss and Ending 

Also Special World 

Just go here for more footage 

Someone add this stuff to the Article --NJE 15:29, 3 November 2011 (EDT)Nick

Letters Mario receives throughout the game.  User:Elise

Poison Mushroom?
Can I see a source that there is Poison Mushrooms in the Game?

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YXj6qJSD4&feature=channel_video_title Besides, why ask here. The source is in the article! and....SIGN YOUR COMMENTS! :) User:MarioMaster720

Nevermind, its in there --NJE 17:10, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Statue Leaf page and a new page for Statue Mario?
Why don't we create a page for the Statue Leaf already??? The Statue Leaf looks exactly like the Invincibility Leaf, but it is gray and white instead of gold and white. Maybe we also should create a new page for Statue Mario since in Super Mario 3D Land it's a completely different powerup. It has a seperate item, it has a different effect and the appearance is different. Statue Mario deserves its own page and WE NEED TO CREATE A PAGE FOR STATUE LEAF AS FAST AS POSSIBLE! Here is a video showing the Statue Leaf and Statue Mario: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YXj6qJSD4&feature=feedu

Tell me what you think about Statue Mario getting his own page and creating the Statue Leaf page (that has to be done) :) User:MarioMaster720

Because there is not enough info on it. We need to find out more about it.

Yoshi is back???
Search "yoshi is back" on youtube and this will come up http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yoshi+is+back&aq=0 The featured commercial comes up and it says "yoshi is back" what does this mean??


 * I believe they are talking about Super Mario Galaxy 2. Because that is what they are saying.

It says "Yoshi is Back-get ready for a new spin on a familiar tail" it doesnt mean smg2


 * The only Yoshi commercial said it was for SMG2 in the video description. The official Nintendo commercial that is their featured video mentions Yoshi nowhere. I don't see where you're getting with this.

Ok,when I search "Yoshi" on youtube the first thing i see the Super Mario 3D Land Commercial,the title reads "Yoshi is Back-A New Spin on a Familiar Tail"


 * Yes, but the actual video is a commercial that is Yoshi-less, meaning that Nintendo just set it up so you'd see the commercial if you searched for him. In short, it's an advertising scheme, not official confirmation that he's in the game.

Retro Power-Ups
Hey...words going round that the retro powerups Koizumi mentioned would return are in the secret worlds...the same ones with Dry Bowser and such...any offical word on this?

--Well, the only official news that I know of regarding this is the inclusion of Statue Leaf and Poison Mushroom in Special World S1-1. Whether we will see more retro power-ups is yet to be seen.-Ckfy63a--

Special World Information
I don't know if this has been seen yet, but a Japanese player has uploaded footage of Special Worlds:

http://livetube.cc/Ancient/%E3%81%B6%E3%82%8C%E3%81%A6%E3%82%8B%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA3D%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%284%29

It has all the special stages from 1-3 (at least, I'm still going through it), so maybe we should update this article with the stage numbers? Thanks!-Ckfy63a

Dry Bowser?
Where are we getting that Dry Bowser is in the game?I have seen no current video or article that CONFIRMS he is in the game --NJE 13:39, 6 November 2011 (EST) I have. He is seen in the Special 1-castle video that has been taken down. It was uploaded by Nintendaan of Nintendo world report,but was taken down when requested by nintendo.


 * here.

Background Music of the official site
Here you can download the two Background music:

Redp_BGM_dotcoin.mp3 and Redp_BGM_fieldwalk.mp3 --Sfavillotto (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2011 (EST)

What happens when you pass 999 lifes
this  You get a crown and the number keeps going up. --NJE 16:51, 6 November 2011 (EST)

Fox Luigi or Squirrel Luigi
I was watching this video and well Luigi's Tanooki suit looked more like a Fox Suit or Squirrel Suit. Is it still considered a Tanooki Suit. It is yellowish Orange with a little light yellow at the end of the tail. So can Luigi use the Tanooki Suit or not?

I don't know if we can consider it to being a new form of Luigi's or not as the power-up still allows Luigi to perform the same moves and functions as Tanooki Mario. The only difference is that his apperance resembles that of a fox as opposed a tanooki. Unless an official name is given for Luigi's Super Leaf form (which I have not seen as of yet), I think we should still refer to him as Tanooki Luigi (but still mention the differences of his appearance in the description). 11:29, 7 November 2011 (EDT)

OK we will leave it.

Assist Blocks
You know the Assist Blocks in SM3DL, they give you the invincibility leaf if you die 5 times, and a P-wing if you die 10 times. Well if you use an assist block does it count as if you beat a level normally or does the game account for the fact that you used it? For example if you beat a level in super mario galaxy 2 you get a star, but if you use the super guide you get a bronze star (if you get help you don't really beat the level). Do the assist blocks work like super guide does? (if you use them is there a disadvantage)

-IGGY7735
 * I don't think so, since it just provides an aid but doesn't play for you.

Yeah, the P-wing beats the level for you. -IGGY7735

Special World Source
 

Invincible Tanooki Mario name
I recived a notification on my 3DS and it said that the transformation Mario gets when he gets an Invincible Leaf is called White Tanooki Mario. Should that go anywhere in the article?

A lot of levels
So far, I know there are at least 78 levels in this game including the special world. However some of them might be duplicates of other levels except with different enemies or backgrounds.

Has there ever been this many levels in a Mainstream Mario Game?--NJE 06:56, 9 November 2011 (EST)

I think NSMBW had 77 levels--NJE 06:58, 9 November 2011 (EST)

NSMB DS had 80 levels. --Ckfy63a

--- SMB3 had about 87 levels--NJE 14:58, 9 November 2011 (EST)

I just found out there is 95 levels in this game in total.--NJE 18:05, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Would you mind sharing your source?--Ckfy63a

Correction

There are 96 levels

Stretch blocks
When it says "Stretch Blocks" on the Confirmed Features list, does it mean the actual Stretch Blocks (the ones that extend left and right, like in SMW), or is it mistaken with the one in the beginning of World 2-1 in New SMB (as you keep hitting it, it grows taller). Because I only saw these ones in SM3DL vids, but not the actual Stretch Blocks.

New Theme Song
I've already heard the new version of the Main theme song. Should it be changed? It'll be a really good idea to put new music.--andrezlatin

Do you mean this? --Sfavillotto (talk) 13:58, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Yeah. Now you might put this song into the main page, and the old one should be put into Beta Elements.--andrezlatin

Add to the trivia
That SM3DL will be the first Mario game in Russian.

Beta Elements
How about making a beta elements page with all early music and stuff?--andrezlatin

Cutscenes
I feel that it is worth mentioning that the art style used in the cutscenes for this game are in direct homage to the earlier games, specifically Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World. This seems worthy to put on the trivia section to me, does anyone agree?

Luigi
Luigi got a other Tanooki suit than Mario! Anybody knows why?

It's still the Tanooki power-up that Luigi is using; however, he resembles a fox more than a tanooki. However, this is the only difference as Tanooki Luigi can still perform the same moves and abilities as Tanooki Mario. Additionally, no official name has been given yet (from what I have seen). The reason why I have no idea. Perhaps Nintendo provided this just to make Luigi seem a little different than Mario or perhaps just a little added bonus (a fun one too) for the players to unlocking Luigi. I don't think an actual reason has been provided yet.

Super mario land 3d S1-castle is a copy of the first castle in the game 1-castle only making it have a time limit of 30 seconds. And you must collect watchs to increse your time by 10

That's Ironic! I said the same thing to my little brother five minutes ago. I got the game at walmart on the 13th at 5:30, I was one of the first people to get it scince I live in the oregon coast. I beat Bowser's level in only a day as well as dry bowser's in world 1. The Statue leaf is an inhanced version of the Super Leaf but can not be used if the super leaf is obtained after the Statue. Also In world 7 Boom-boom and Pom-pom (PS WEIRD NAME) are battled in the same room! It took me a while to win it. I wish Kirbo's Shoe was in this game too, it would make it a lot more fun. I wish I could find out how to take pictures of my gameplay on here so I could finish my Book I made for my little brother (who likes Mario too.) By the way...I HATE THESE DOG-GONE POP-UPS!!!!!! Oh, and my rating on this game.... TEN OUT OF FIVE STARS...to bad its so short.... By IggyKoopa321

S-worlds?
These S-Worlds are just the same worlds with a twist! When you unlock Luigi and play him as Tanooki Luigi he looks different than any other tanooki-tailed thing. His outfits is a different shade of brown and he has a star mark on the tip of his tail, I mean, no other enemy looks like that, I thing Nintendo goofed up. ( By the way, I love this website!) By IggyKoopa321

We had a beta boxart
I came to notice the boxart (North American version) we had been using as the main image for this game, is a little bit different to the one relased:

Just imagine this as the rest of the world boxarts, who had the Super Leaf, amd think of it with the ERSB rating. I cannot find that image, by the way.

It is not really beta, they do this where almost each country has a different boxart but they look closely alike.

Story
Almost the whole first paragraph of the story seems incorrect (or made up). Nowhere in the game does it say that the tree is familiar to everyone in the kingdom, and it never says that Peach went to check on it either. The game simply shows that after a storm blows away all of the leaves, Mario and the Toads check it out, finding a note saying that the Princess is kidnapped on the way. Where did all of the information from the first paragraph come from?
 * If memory serves, it started out as a translation from the Japanese website and then was improved from there.

99 lives fix
Hey guys, new here, so if I've got this in the wrong place let me know. In the trivia it says "In World 1-2, it is possible to do the "Unlimited 1-Ups Trick" that dates back to Super Mario Bros.[59]" Though I've looked and that shell has been removed since the E3 demo, it needs to be changed. ~Boba2007

More stuff to fix
Since Boba 2007 brought up the fixing topic, I would like to point out that, unless I am missing something, it is impossible to roll in the final version. I know this because, when I saw the brick block in 2-1, a trailer shows Mario rolling into it to get the star coin, but when I tried it, nothing. I had to go back to world 1-1 to get a Tanooki suit and use that. Also, the article says long jumping incorparetes a roll, but, when I long jumped, it was the same way as in the other games. My guess is Nintendo scrapped this move Ratfink43 19:51, 15 November 2011 (EST)

Nevermind, apparently I was attempting to do the move wrong (I thought it was crouch+A/B) I now know its crouch +X/Y and it worked. But still, Long jumping does not incorparate the roll. Shouldnt that be removed? Ratfink43 19:57, 15 November 2011 (EST)

New enemy names in the US version?
Since the Prima guide got them down, are the rest of them known?

What's the bee's name and such? BooDestroyer

Almost complete soundtrack
Here it is, and it's composed of 40 tracks! --Sfavillotto (talk) 06:14, 16 November 2011 (EST)

This one has even more (65 songs + 6 beta ones) (Note: 2 archives with different format - both of them have the same songs)--andrezlatin

There seem to be some that are missing. There's a second version of the Special World 8 map theme that you hear when you beat every level completely and unlock the final crown level. Is anyone able to get that one? BooDestroyer 13:45, 16 November 2011 (EST)