Talk:Cragnon

Dimentio!?

Who put Dimentio as possibly being a Cragnon? There is no way Dimentio can even POSSIBLY be speculated as a Cragnon. I suggest that it be removed.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by King Boo (talk).

I agree. -Zaimoon

Marl and Skarn

I can't say I've ever played Super Paper Mario, because I haven't, but the characters of Marl and Skarn - seen in this article - surely deserve their own article? It is even shown that Marl actually has dialogue, and surely every character who has dialogue should have an article. If anyone knows the role of Marl or Skarn in the game, then I would suggest giving them - or at least Marl - an article.

Websterite

Okay, I created articles for Skarn, Marl and Chert, but I have no idea who Websterite is! The only one I can think of is the guy who stands guard and won't let you pass until you agree to help the Cragnons, but I'm not entirely sure. Anybody know?
Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 14:39, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Can't be. I have Websterite as appearing after opening the right door. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

As a matter of fact, he is the closest one to the right door. He likes new and trendy stuff according to his tattle. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 14:55, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

As for who is the one to guard the door, that's Tuff... which we don't have despite him appearing amongst them afterwards. Real fan of Flint Cragley. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 14:57, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Do you have any quotes from them?

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 15:19, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

P.S. It's really kind of pathetic that SPM still has a bunch of red links.

Not right off. But Websterite says post-game that he is eating something outside due to there being no hole in the sky. (wait red links? hmm... Strange for it to have them.) Yoshi the SSM (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Well, thanks anyway. I'll try my best with what I've got.

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 15:32, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

I just remembered. New stubs are illegal, right? Well, I'm pretty sure the article for Tuff I just created is a stub and Websterite's will be too. Are new stubs illegal in all cases or are they legal as long as all the information we have is on the article?

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 15:36, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Highly discouraged is a better form of the word. But these are fine since they have limited information from the day they were created, with other info to be added later on once we have it. Yes, it would of been better to give them articles once you found some more info. But since they are there now, there's nothing you can do but to improve them. Try researching them by using your game during the next week (a week is what is suggested on the formula). If not, I will add the info once I get to 5-1 on one of my files (I happen to have one near the beginning at time of write, so you don't need to restart a save file just to look as I can get there and check). Yoshi the SSM (talk) 16:06, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

That would be great. I literally just beat the game, so if you could get Tuff's quote when you try to leave without helping, I could put it on the page. A quote form Websterite would be good too, as it would give me more info on his personality.

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 16:11, 5 April 2018 (EDT)

Tuff

Been playing the game, and I got to chapter 5-1. I said no, and was able to find Tuff. What's interesting is that there is another Tuff near the TV, which is the fan of Flint Cragley. And yes, this is at the same time. The Tuff that guards the door lost his family when they were taken. Also, this Tuff is never seen again even after the Cragnons are set free and even after the player says yes. Yet Cragley fan Tuff tattle never mentions his lost family. So how are we going to deal with this? Yoshi the SSM (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

............Some sort of identifier is in order, but danged if I know what it is. Do their heads have different shapes? That could work.

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:30, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Sorry, but they are both the same shape. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 22:15, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

More than a month later, I am now ready to make Websterite and Tuff. And the Tuff that stays has the same tattle and doesn't change. So, I am pretty certain that there are two different Tuffs. Yet, they look like each other. So, what identifiers to use? Yoshi the SSM (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

Speaking of the second Tuff, Scoria seems to be the page that mentions him. So, that is the page I am going to move (since I'm pretty sure that there is no such name as Scoria).

Forgot to sign the one above, but oh well. It has been 3 months exactly since I started this and this has not been answered. So, I added a talk template. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2018 (EDT)

Ok. I decided on two sets of identifiers. Now the question is which ones. I am thinking the current Tuff page be (one-time (only)) or (captured family) and the current Scoria be move to a different Tuff with the identifier of (always there) or ((Flint) Cragley lover). ()s inside ()s indicate optional words. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 10:18, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

Since I couldn't figure out which, I used a randomizer and it came out 2 (out of 1 or 2). So, (captured family) and (Flint Cragley lover) will be the identifiers. So, if there is someone who thinks it should be the other identifiers or they should be merged together, it would be best if you say something before I move them. Which, I am going to do in approximately 24 hours. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

Perhaps (guard) and (citizen)? One seems to be a warrior since he holds a spear.

Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:06, 17 July 2018 (EDT)

Ok. That makes sense. Though, I think the citizen still holds a spear. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2018 (EDT)